-7.5

[kim carnes]

CHIRP/ORCHID says Cats should win by 18

KansasSt.  41
IowaSt.  23

 

[catzacker]

All those fancy stats in the CHIRP/ORCHID won't make a bit of difference when you find yourself in a goddamn dogfight.

[yoEMAW]

All those fancy stats in the CHIRP/ORCHID won't make a bit of difference when you find yourself in a goddamn dogfight.

Amen. Similar to Trim vs KSM. Size/notoriety don't mean crap. First one to get ahold of the other's throat is gonna choke 'em out PDQ.

[doom]

Probably be a lot like yesterday but we won't be down 14-7 ever

ISU isn't great, but their WAY better than KU.

[8manpick]

All those fancy stats in the CHIRP/ORCHID won't make a bit of difference when you find yourself in a goddamn dogfight.

Amen. Similar to Trim vs KSM. Size/notoriety don't mean crap. First one to get ahold of the other's throat is gonna choke 'em out PDQ.

can you imagine those little T-Rex arms in a choke-out battle with choke-out expert Trim?

[Trim]

All those fancy stats in the CHIRP/ORCHID won't make a bit of difference when you find yourself in a goddamn dogfight.

Amen. Similar to Trim vs KSM. Size/notoriety don't mean crap. First one to get ahold of the other's throat is gonna choke 'em out PDQ.

can you imagine those little T-Rex arms in a choke-out battle with choke-out expert Trim?

[AbeFroman]

Jesus,, another week where we'll play nice the first half and then crush their souls in the second half

[wetwillie]

If you believe bill let's rocky rhoads take a crap on his swan song, then I'm not sure what to do for you.

[sys]

That a common LDFIQ misconception. It isn't the size of the dog in the fight,It's the size of the fight in the dog.

i've been involved with fighting dogs for over 15 years, and while i agree with the statement, the size of fight a dog has is almost always closely correlated with the size of size he has. 

[felix rex]

Jesus,, another week where we'll play nice the first half and then crush their souls in the second half

I will probably spend AT LEAST 15 minutes on Sunday morning reading Iowa State moral victory threads.

[CHONGS]

All those fancy stats in the CHIRP/ORCHID won't make a bit of difference when you find yourself in a goddamn dogfight.

I expect a closer game than the stats predict.  This game scares me.

[kso_FAN]

All those fancy stats in the CHIRP/ORCHID won't make a bit of difference when you find yourself in a goddamn dogfight.

I expect a closer game than the stats predict.  This game scares me.

Iowa State seems to be a poor man's version of our team last year, they are finding ways to win.

I do notice that they have an average running game and while Barnett seemed to give them a spark this weekend, I'm not real worried about him. They have a negative turnover margin on the season and really their 2 Big 12 games were decided largely by TO margin. -2 vs Tech in the loss and +4 vs TCU in the win. IMO if we can run the ball and win TO margin we'll be fine and win by 14 or so.

[yoEMAW]

That a common LDFIQ misconception. It isn't the size of the dog in the fight,It's the size of the fight in the dog.

i've been involved with fighting dogs for over 15 years, and while i agree with the statement, the size of fight a dog has is almost always closely correlated with the size of size he has.

I respect your opinion, but you've never fought toy breeds have you? Those delusional little bastards just don't care. I'm telling you, sys, it's a real eye-opener.

[8manpick]

Iowa State seems to be a poor man's version of our team last year, they are finding ways to win.

So far it looks like the ways they have found to win are:
1. Play against garbage teams
2. If you are stuck playing a good team, get their star QB drunk, tip off the police, and make him drive around

[kso_FAN]

Iowa State seems to be a poor man's version of our team last year, they are finding ways to win.

So far it looks like the ways they have found to win are:
1. Play against garbage teams
2. If you are stuck playing a good team, get their star QB drunk, tip off the police, and make him drive around

True. They found a way against TCU, Tulsa, and Iowa. None of those are great teams, but they are decent wins.

[pissclams]

remember when we were trying to be good and would be ranked like 23 or something and we thought we were good but we really weren't and then somwhere in the top 10 ranked OU or NU would come into BSFS and kill us in all aspects of the game and win by like 35? 

[raquetcat]

All those fancy stats in the CHIRP/ORCHID won't make a bit of difference when you find yourself in a goddamn dogfight.

I expect a closer game than the stats predict.  This game scares me.

Iowa State seems to be a poor man's version of our team last year, they are finding ways to win.

I do notice that they have an average running game and while Barnett seemed to give them a spark this weekend, I'm not real worried about him. They have a negative turnover margin on the season and really their 2 Big 12 games were decided largely by TO margin. -2 vs Tech in the loss and +4 vs TCU in the win. IMO if we can run the ball and win TO margin we'll be fine and win by 14 or so.

Confidence rising!

[kitten_mittons]

remember when we were trying to be good and would be ranked like 23 or something and we thought we were good but we really weren't and then somwhere in the top 10 ranked OU or NU would come into BSFS and kill us in all aspects of the game and win by like 35?

Yeah, I do.

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[Stevesie60]

remember when we were trying to be good and would be ranked like 23 or something and we thought we were good but we really weren't and then somwhere in the top 10 ranked OU or NU would come into BSFS and kill us in all aspects of the game and win by like 35? 

This is such a great point. My confidence is getting really, really high!

[kso_FAN]

The predicted margin is understandable when you look at the numbers. ISU has advantages in only two areas that I see; interceptions and yards per play allowed on defense. But points per play given up is pretty much the same, and K-State has huge advantages when you compare offensive efficiency, return games, and turnover margin. Granted, the game isn't played on paper, but K-State has advantages across the board and unless ISU can force turnovers, its unlikely they should beat us, even in Ames. K-State should win by 10-14; I see this game being similar to our game against Tech last year.

[steve dave]

The predicted margin is understandable when you look at the numbers. ISU has advantages in only two areas that I see; interceptions and yards per play allowed on defense. But points per play given up is pretty much the same, and K-State has huge advantages when you compare offensive efficiency, return games, and turnover margin. Granted, the game isn't played on paper, but K-State has advantages across the board and unless ISU can force turnovers, its unlikely they should beat us, even in Ames. K-State should win by 10-14; I see this game being similar to our game against Tech last year.

That game against Tech was scary as crap. This one will not be like that. Cats coast to easy win and we all party.

[catzacker]

While each team/year is different, the game last year was even, save for ISU’s two turnovers.  ISU ran on us with efficiency and I am still not sold on this our defense’s ability to stop the run.  We have lived/benefited off turnovers (our TO margin is top 5 nationally – however I recognize that ISU has certainly benefited from turnovers as well).  I mean, what happens if KU doesn’t fumble that ball on the kickoff following the safety?  At that point, our defense was still on its heels – even the pick was a poorly, underthrown ball as KU was driving to score. 

Moving forward, the talent discrepancy between ksu and its opponent is either a push or in favor of the opposition.  I don’t understand the unbridled optimism (albeit some of it a facade) about this team.    This team is good, but every single game moving forward will be based on us executing  - we simply don’t have the talent to cover mistakes – and it’s tough to expect them to play at the “perfect” level game in and game out.  In many ways, I liken it to Frank’s teams – they require(d) consistent effort and when it wasn’t there then we were going to lose, regardless of the opponent because we didn’t have the talent to make up for it. 

[steve dave]

Score Predicto:

ISU: 17
KSU:  45

[pissclams]

While each team/year is different, the game last year was even, save for ISU’s two turnovers.  ISU ran on us with efficiency and I am still not sold on this our defense’s ability to stop the run.  We have lived/benefited off turnovers (our TO margin is top 5 nationally – however I recognize that ISU has certainly benefited from turnovers as well).  I mean, what happens if KU doesn’t fumble that ball on the kickoff following the safety?  At that point, our defense was still on its heels – even the pick was a poorly, underthrown ball as KU was driving to score. 

Moving forward, the talent discrepancy between ksu and its opponent is either a push or in favor of the opposition.  I don’t understand the unbridled optimism (albeit some of it a facade) about this team.    This team is good, but every single game moving forward will be based on us executing  - we simply don’t have the talent to cover mistakes – and it’s tough to expect them to play at the “perfect” level game in and game out.  In many ways, I liken it to Frank’s teams – they require(d) consistent effort and when it wasn’t there then we were going to lose, regardless of the opponent because we didn’t have the talent to make up for it. 

there's a lot of ifs in there catzacker, A LOT of ifs.

[kso_FAN]

The predicted margin is understandable when you look at the numbers. ISU has advantages in only two areas that I see; interceptions and yards per play allowed on defense. But points per play given up is pretty much the same, and K-State has huge advantages when you compare offensive efficiency, return games, and turnover margin. Granted, the game isn't played on paper, but K-State has advantages across the board and unless ISU can force turnovers, its unlikely they should beat us, even in Ames. K-State should win by 10-14; I see this game being similar to our game against Tech last year.

That game against Tech was scary as crap. This one will not be like that. Cats coast to easy win and we all party.

I mean the way the game went down. Tech led much of the first half, some of the 3rd quarter, then we took control. I could see ISU doing that as well. Tech hit a FG late to make a 7 point game, but most of the 4th quarter felt like we were going to win. JMO.