"Obamacare"

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

When you really think about it, the illegals are destroying this country with their tax breaks. We just can't be truly great unless we can get rid of the freeloaders. First it was the good for nothing slaves that didn't pay a cent to earn their keep. Now, it's those border crossing, crotch grabbing illegals who just come over and freeload on my dime. And now they expect to be able to get medicine and other treatments they can't afford? This is the USA, not the USSA. When will this country figure it out?

What is this?

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

Was notified I can keep my BCBS policy for another year. Thanks Obama!

[Dub]

 

http://buzz.money.cnn.com/2013/11/21/obamacare-insurers-stocks/

Humana (HUM) and Cigna (CI) both hit all-time highs Thursday. WellPoint (WLP) is trading just shy of the record price it reached Wednesday. Aetna (AET) and UnitedHealth (UNH) are only about 2% below their peaks.

In fact, Goldman Sachs is recommending that investors buy shares in two big insurance companies — the UnitedHealth Group and Cigna — because the potential for profit is high.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

http://buzz.money.cnn.com/2013/11/21/obamacare-insurers-stocks/

Humana (HUM) and Cigna (CI) both hit all-time highs Thursday. WellPoint (WLP) is trading just shy of the record price it reached Wednesday. Aetna (AET) and UnitedHealth (UNH) are only about 2% below their peaks.

In fact, Goldman Sachs is recommending that investors buy shares in two big insurance companies — the UnitedHealth Group and Cigna — because the potential for profit is high.

I'm ridin' this wave!  401K!

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Not sure if this is a sadder indictment of liberal government or the delusional 20-something demographic that continues to vote for it. Both, I guess. http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/04/not-a-joke-video-called-forget-about-the-price-tag-wins-hhs-grand-prize-for-promoting-obamacare/

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

The Obama admin recently trumpeted that it "met its goal" in fixing the healthcare.gov website by December 1. It was another bullshit claim, as usual. Turns out, they have only mostly fixed (it only crashes 10% of the time now ) the facade - the consumer interface. But the essential back-end interface between the portal and the insurers remains riddled with problems.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/05/obamacare-enrollment_n_4384820.html

Unresolved technical problems on HealthCare.gov could lead to a rude surprise at the doctor's office next month for patients who think they successfully used the website to sign up for health insurance. They may find they're not insured after all.

HealthCare.gov, the federal online portal for health-insurance shopping in more than 30 states, has improved after more than a month of intense fixes, and enrollment is accelerating. But insurance companies are still getting information on their would-be customers that is garbled and incomplete, and in some cases they are getting no information at all. President Barack Obama's administration is scrambling to repair the faulty system, but scant time remains until the Dec. 23 deadline for consumers to choose a health plan that will be in place Jan. 1.

The result could be an untold number of consumers remaining uninsured despite completing the enrollment process -- another embarrassing chapter in the rollout of the Affordable Care Act, Obama's signature health care reform law.

The Obama administration insists the enrollment glitches will be fixed in time to prevent any troubles next month, but won't disclose the extent of the problem. Nor will it guarantee that any patients who fall victim to these problems won't be exposed to medical bills if they get sick or injured.

[Rage Against the McKee]

They should have hired hemmy.

[Headinjun]

Define "crap ton".

My effective rate last year (all taxes divided by gross income) was 37%, and that's just the taxes I could quantify. Seems like a lot to me.

I would hire a new accountant if I were you.
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KSU doesn't understand what "free" healthcare would do to his company's overhead or bottom line so don't be surprised that he doesn't know how to do his taxes.   

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

http://m.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamacare-architect-if-you-your-doctor-you-can-pay-more_769688.html

So Obama didn't really lie when he said if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Sure, your plan may be cancelled if it doesn't meet minimum coverage requirements, and sure, your doctor likely won't accept ObamaCare plans, but you can always buy an even more expensive policy your doctor will take. Maybe even pay them out of pocket!

Too bad people can't just keep the insurance and doctors they liked, huh? But you can't make a socialist omelette without rough ridin' a few people over, amiright?

[Headinjun]

I bet you'll never blame the insurance companies for implementing these policies, cancellations and such.

By all means give them back full control if you think it helps..

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

I'll bet you'll never blame the insurance companies for implementing these policies, cancellations and therefore.

By all means give them back full control if you think it helps..

Are you drunk? You're not even framing coherent sentences, let alone ideas.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

HeadInjun, stop acting like such a dumbass, you racist pos.

[Headinjun]

I'll bet you'll never blame the insurance companies for implementing these policies, cancellations and therefore.

By all means give them back full control if you think it helps..

Are you drunk? You're not even framing coherent sentences, let alone ideas.

Yeah I rushed through that, but I'm sure you know it's the insurance companies who are mainly to blame for implementing the things you're bitching about considering you like to put yourself on a higher level of intelligence by throwing around the word tard every chance you get. 

Throwing around "libtards" and posting second rate conservative blogs does nothing to provide a strong argument.   

You sound more like a  World Forum tuck.  Maybe you and Todd should become friends. 

[Headinjun]

HeadInjun, stop acting like such a dumbass, you racist pos.

Depth of thought noted. 

Also why the hell do you care if I call my injun self an injun?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

HeadInjun, stop acting like such a dumbass, you racist pos.

Depth of thought noted. 

Also why the hell do you care if I call my injun self an injun?

I said stop being a Dumbass.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

I'll bet you'll never blame the insurance companies for implementing these policies, cancellations and therefore.

By all means give them back full control if you think it helps..

Are you drunk? You're not even framing coherent sentences, let alone ideas.

Yeah I rushed through that, but I'm sure you know it's the insurance companies who are mainly to blame for implementing the things you're bitching about

Hmmm... no I don't know that. Please explain. I was talking about how ObamaCare minimum coverage mandates have resulted in cancellation of many policies (and will cause cancellations of many more), and people are now discovering a severe shortage of doctors who accept the new exchange plans (like Medicaid), thus putting the lie to Obama's claim. These are facts. Not sure how the evil insurance cos are to blame for this, except that many admittedly jumped into bed with Obama to help pass ObamaCare in exchange for the promise of many new policyholders.

[Headinjun]

I'll bet you'll never blame the insurance companies for implementing these policies, cancellations and therefore.

By all means give them back full control if you think it helps..

Are you drunk? You're not even framing coherent sentences, let alone ideas.

Yeah I rushed through that, but I'm sure you know it's the insurance companies who are mainly to blame for implementing the things you're bitching about

Hmmm... no I don't know that. Please explain. I was talking about how ObamaCare minimum coverage mandates have resulted in cancellation of many policies (and will cause cancellations of many more), and people are now discovering a severe shortage of doctors who accept the new exchange plans (like Medicaid), thus putting the lie to Obama's claim. These are facts. Not sure how the evil insurance cos are to blame for this, except that many admittedly jumped into bed with Obama to help pass ObamaCare in exchange for the promise of many new policyholders.

Insurance companies do decide what doctors, hospitals, and clinics they will cover thus removing people from their preferable choices of care...

Also doctors can also refuse to accept certain forms of insurance which is their choice and not the presidents.   

These implementation troubles aren't solely caused by the new legislation as these type of practices by doctors and insurance companies would have happened anyway over time. 

I know you're strictly anti-Obamacare, or anti-Obama for that matter, but you must recognize all the players involved who are causing you to be a paranoid schizophrenic twisted twit.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Disaster. 70% of CA doctors say they'll boycott exchange plans

[Rage Against the McKee]

Disaster. 70% of CA doctors say they'll boycott exchange plans

“We need some recognition that we’re doing a service to the community. But we can’t do it for free. And we can’t do it at a loss. No other business would do that,”

Why are these doctors such horrible people? 

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Disaster. 70% of CA doctors say they'll boycott exchange plans

“We need some recognition that we’re doing a service to the community. But we can’t do it for free. And we can’t do it at a loss. No other business would do that,”

Why are these doctors such horrible people? 

They're greedy assholes, is what they are. You know what we need? We need a law to make them treat everyone. It's not fair that they can choose to only treat the people who will pay them.

[michigancat]

We should raise taxes to pay the doctors a better rate. But really, it's yet another argument for single player.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Disaster. 70% of CA doctors say they'll boycott exchange plans

“We need some recognition that we’re doing a service to the community. But we can’t do it for free. And we can’t do it at a loss. No other business would do that,”

Why are these doctors such horrible people? 

They're greedy assholes, is what they are. You know what we need? We need a law to make them treat everyone. It's not fair that they can choose to only treat the people who will pay them.

I think the market will sort it out.

[Rage Against the McKee]

This republican has a health care plan that makes a lot of sense. Maybe the party has a future after all.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/12/colin-powell-pitches-universal-healthcare-in-us/

[Headinjun]

I'm all for public insurance and private care.

Let the doctors compete for public funds

[Stupid Fitz]

I'm all for public insurance and private care.

Let the doctors compete for public funds

Yep, I bet the current Admin would do an amazing job running it and not shazbot! it up at all.