"Obamacare"

[lopakman]

We have UHC, they're great, yeah premiums went up but so what.  We had over 70k in med bills couple years ago, and all we paid was our max out of pocket expense of 5k.  This year due to an injury for my daughter we had 25k med bills, once again paid 5k out of pocket max.  Also checkups for the kids and flu shots are covered as preventative maintenance.

Go insurance companies!

[MakeItRain]

Sounds like obamacare has really mumped us all 

My coverage has gotten progressively worse each year. I do not like the ACA but I'm not going to blame greedy insurance companies on it.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Here is the next fight. Where will Team Obama illegally appropriate the bailout to prop up its precious law? (Oh, and another reason to love Rubio.) http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/as-exchanges-falter-team-obamacare-fights-for-an-insurer-bailout/article/2577088

Until recently, the insurance giants saw Obamacare as a cash cow. They are now finding the law's insurance marketplaces to be sickly quagmires causing billions in losses.

In response, the Obamacare insiders — the wealthy and powerful operatives who alternate between top government jobs and top industry jobs — are hustling to find more bailout money for insurers. Republicans, if they are able to hold their ground in the face of lobbyist pressure, can block the bailout of Obamacare and its corporate clientele.

United Healthcare, the nation's largest insurer, last week announced it was suffering huge losses in the exchanges. "We cannot sustain these losses" UHC's CEO said in a conference call, saying conditions for the insurer were "worsening." The company forecast $700 million in losses on the exchanges. Fellow insurance giant Aetna also said it expected to lose money on the exchanges, and other insurers said enrollment was lower than they expected.

Hours after UHC's dire announcement, the Obama administration issued an interesting statement of its own — that it would find a way to get insurers the bailout money congressional Republicans had voted to deny them.

Here's the background: Obamacare included a few provisions intended to smooth over bumps in implementation. One was called "risk corridors" — a three-year safety net for insurers who do much worse than expected, paid for by an extra tax on insurers who do much better.

The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) had announced in October that insurers losses for 2014 entitled them to $2.87 billion in bailout payments through "risk corridors." The problem is that super-profitable insurers did not pay nearly that much into the bailout fund.

In late 2014, Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., inserted into the so-called Cromnibus spending bill a provision that prohibited CMS from paying out more in risk corridor payments than it takes in. Profitable insurers — not taxpayers — must subsidize their less profitable peers.

Since insurers' excess losses in 2014 outweighed their excess profits by an 8-to-1 margin, each money-losing insurer will get only one eighth of the bailout money it would otherwise recoup.

Where o where will these crony capitalist whores get their taxpayer bailout?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Sounds like obamacare has really mumped us all 

My coverage has gotten progressively worse each year. I do not like the ACA but I'm not going to blame greedy insurance companies on it.

The most likely culprit after Big Oil, Wall Street Fat Cats and Evil Corporations. . . at least in libtard fantasy land.

I mean, the insurance companies are being forced to subsidize the crap ACA, which really isn't congruent with greed. And the law dictates precisely what coverage must be offered and at what permissible rates. Libtards gonna libtard I guess.

[sonofdaxjones]

When I worked for a shitty company I had to pay premiums also. Ts&Ps dax

Just 10% of the premiums CRPLJB.    They're taking from you somewhere else, I'm sure.

[Emo EMAW]

When I worked for a shitty company I had to pay premiums also. Ts&Ps dax

Just 10% of the premiums CRPLJB.    They're taking from you somewhere else, I'm sure.

That was rusty's argument years ago, yet he has apparently flip flopped recently.

[sonofdaxjones]

When I worked for a shitty company I had to pay premiums also. Ts&Ps dax

Just 10% of the premiums CRPLJB.    They're taking from you somewhere else, I'm sure.

That was rusty's argument years ago, yet he has apparently flip flopped recently.

No way.

[michigancat]

[michigancat]

and yeah, no crap they're taking it away from my salary dipshits.

just work harder and quit whining

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

my new job pays for all my health care and deductible, so I guess the lesson here is to work harder and maybe you can all get a better job, too.

This was one of the arguments against implementing Obamacare years ago.

[MakeItRain]

Sounds like obamacare has really mumped us all 

My coverage has gotten progressively worse each year. I do not like the ACA but I'm not going to blame greedy insurance companies on it.

The most likely culprit after Big Oil, Wall Street Fat Cats and Evil Corporations. . . at least in libtard fantasy land.

I mean, the insurance companies are being forced to subsidize the crap ACA, which really isn't congruent with greed. And the law dictates precisely what coverage must be offered and at what permissible rates. Libtards gonna libtard I guess.

It dictates what the bare minimums are and plans are getting stripped down to do just that but whatever, you do you. You are so thirsty for a fight that you are arguing with someone that doesn't favor the ACA. Would it make you feel better if I called it Obamacare and called Obama names?

[star seed 7]

Single payer here we come!   

[MakeItRain]

Single payer here we come!   

LOL, no

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Obamacare is so shitty that MIR and I agree it's shitty. How shitty? That shitty. 

[Cire]

Sounds like everybody here has some good healthcare!  T's and P's dax and mir.

[sonofdaxjones]

Naw, I'm good.

[chum1]

We'll all be fine. It's America that will be totally ruined by Obamacare.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Sounds like obamacare has really mumped us all 

My coverage has gotten progressively worse each year. I do not like the ACA but I'm not going to blame greedy insurance companies on it.

The most likely culprit after Big Oil, Wall Street Fat Cats and Evil Corporations. . . at least in libtard fantasy land.

I mean, the insurance companies are being forced to subsidize the crap ACA, which really isn't congruent with greed. And the law dictates precisely what coverage must be offered and at what permissible rates. Libtards gonna libtard I guess.

It dictates what the bare minimums are and plans are getting stripped down to do just that but whatever, you do you. You are so thirsty for a fight that you are arguing with someone that doesn't favor the ACA. Would it make you feel better if I called it Obamacare and called Obama names?

Yes, that would amuse me.

Also, everyone does the bare minimum when it comes to regulatory compliance, idiot. That's like the number 1 argument against regulating the crap out of everything. Everybody spends all their time making sure they're doing the bare minimum.

[wetwillie]

how can we stop spending redic amounts of money on babies and old people?  Depending on what study you look at something like 5 % of the population generate 50% of health care expenditures and 20% generate 80%, much of it being driven by complicated infant care and end stages of life care. 

[star seed 7]

ok death panelist willie

[wetwillie]

so probably nothing then?

[star seed 7]

i could probably be talked into a maximum age limit

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I'm sure the 5% of people paying 80% of the taxes would like to know.

What we know doesn't work: ACA

[wetwillie]

i could probably be talked into a maximum age limit

im going to need some kind of commitment on  the infants too

[star seed 7]

Hmm. No, I don't think so