"Obamacare"

[chum1]

Politico says they're going up in most states. A lot. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/obamacare-insurance-rates-2014-elections-111813.html

 

[ednksu]

Politico says they're going up in most states. A lot. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/obamacare-insurance-rates-2014-elections-111813.html

Surprise KSUW lies once again

The attacks could easily give the impression that the health care law is causing premiums to go through the roof around the country. They’re not. In reality, in most states, premiums for coverage in the Obamacare health insurance exchanges for 2015 are rising at about the normal rate for health insurance throughout the country. In some places, they’re even going down.
But there are a few states that are facing more extreme premium increases from some insurers — and Louisiana and Iowa are two of them. Alaska, where Democratic Sen. Mark Begich is struggling to win a second term, is another one.
Even there, it’s not all insurers that are raising rates that much. Louisiana, for example, is only announcing rates for the insurers that are raising rates by 10 percent or more, so the picture that’s being made public is incomplete.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Politico says they're going up in most states. A lot. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/obamacare-insurance-rates-2014-elections-111813.html

Surprise KSUW lies once again

The attacks could easily give the impression that the health care law is causing premiums to go through the roof around the country. They’re not. In reality, in most states, premiums for coverage in the Obamacare health insurance exchanges for 2015 are rising at about the normal rate for health insurance throughout the country. In some places, they’re even going down.
But there are a few states that are facing more extreme premium increases from some insurers — and Louisiana and Iowa are two of them. Alaska, where Democratic Sen. Mark Begich is struggling to win a second term, is another one.
Even there, it’s not all insurers that are raising rates that much. Louisiana, for example, is only announcing rates for the insurers that are raising rates by 10 percent or more, so the picture that’s being made public is incomplete.

Sorry, as the article I linked says, premiums are going up in most states, and a lot in a few. But by all means, quibble away in defense of this turd of a law.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I thought the reason for Obamacare was to lower premiums for everyone? Instead, rates are only increasing at the normal rate plus we are subsidizing a few million more policies. 

[star seed 7]

Healthcare for a few million people, Yuck!

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

By its own account, Obamacare has had virtually zero effect on lowering the number of uninsured.

Saying that premiums are going up at normal rates is disingenuous as 1) it's by and large a false statement and 2) one of the principle purposes of the law was to curtail rapidly rising premiums (which are post facto referred to as "normal").

Edna long ago demonstrated that she feeds at the trough of think progress, and similar leftist propaganda mills, such that her ignorance warrants no response.

[CNS]

Looking at the CNS Family premium data over time, this yr we went on BSBC through the marketplace and this is the first yr since college that my premium went down for equal covg.  We had a couple years where our plan went up by 11-16%.  It leveled out the last few yrs, but it was pretty rough ridin' crazy for a three or four yr period a while ago.

[wetwillie]

The exchange was cheaper than employer subsidized coverage cns?

[CNS]

By $100

[CNS]

I mean, we get the buy up PPO and not the high deductible plan since we have young and active kids.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I mean, we get the buy up PPO and not the high deductible plan since we have young and active kids.

there you go.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

All dumbasses think their premium is cheaper when really their out of pocket about 1000% more and they are too stupid to realize it.

[ednksu]

Politico says they're going up in most states. A lot. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/obamacare-insurance-rates-2014-elections-111813.html

Surprise KSUW lies once again

The attacks could easily give the impression that the health care law is causing premiums to go through the roof around the country. They’re not. In reality, in most states, premiums for coverage in the Obamacare health insurance exchanges for 2015 are rising at about the normal rate for health insurance throughout the country. In some places, they’re even going down.
But there are a few states that are facing more extreme premium increases from some insurers — and Louisiana and Iowa are two of them. Alaska, where Democratic Sen. Mark Begich is struggling to win a second term, is another one.
Even there, it’s not all insurers that are raising rates that much. Louisiana, for example, is only announcing rates for the insurers that are raising rates by 10 percent or more, so the picture that’s being made public is incomplete.

Sorry, as the article I linked says, premiums are going up in most states, and a lot in a few. But by all means, quibble away in defense of this turd of a law.

LOL where do you think it got the quote from dumbass

[ednksu]

By its own account, Obamacare has had virtually zero effect on lowering the number of uninsured.

Saying that premiums are going up at normal rates is disingenuous as 1) it's by and large a false statement and 2) one of the principle purposes of the law was to curtail rapidly rising premiums (which are post facto referred to as "normal").

Edna long ago demonstrated that she feeds at the trough of think progress, and similar leftist propaganda mills, such that her ignorance warrants no response.

LOL more blatant lies from the Fake and KSUW
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/16/us/number-of-americans-without-health-insurance-falls-survey-shows.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSum&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1
ACA has caused a decrease in the number of uninsured
ACA has actually cased a decrease in premiums in some states (from KSUW own source  )

Yeah I'm sorry my ignorance is based on facts and not rhetoric, I know that something your camp has trouble with.  Don't get too frothy in your response.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Politico says they're going up in most states. A lot. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/obamacare-insurance-rates-2014-elections-111813.html

Surprise KSUW lies once again

The attacks could easily give the impression that the health care law is causing premiums to go through the roof around the country. They’re not. In reality, in most states, premiums for coverage in the Obamacare health insurance exchanges for 2015 are rising at about the normal rate for health insurance throughout the country. In some places, they’re even going down.
But there are a few states that are facing more extreme premium increases from some insurers — and Louisiana and Iowa are two of them. Alaska, where Democratic Sen. Mark Begich is struggling to win a second term, is another one.
Even there, it’s not all insurers that are raising rates that much. Louisiana, for example, is only announcing rates for the insurers that are raising rates by 10 percent or more, so the picture that’s being made public is incomplete.

Sorry, as the article I linked says, premiums are going up in most states, and a lot in a few. But by all means, quibble away in defense of this turd of a law.

LOL where do you think it got the quote from dumbass

JFC. That was my point you dumbshit. I'm not hiding anything.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Edna thinks every insured person is insured because of ACA and every non voter couldn't do so because of the ID requirement.  She is a dimwit.

By its own account,  ACA is a complete failure. By anecdote it's single handily responsible for all that is good and nothing that is bad.

[ednksu]

Politico says they're going up in most states. A lot. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/obamacare-insurance-rates-2014-elections-111813.html

Surprise KSUW lies once again

The attacks could easily give the impression that the health care law is causing premiums to go through the roof around the country. They’re not. In reality, in most states, premiums for coverage in the Obamacare health insurance exchanges for 2015 are rising at about the normal rate for health insurance throughout the country. In some places, they’re even going down.
But there are a few states that are facing more extreme premium increases from some insurers — and Louisiana and Iowa are two of them. Alaska, where Democratic Sen. Mark Begich is struggling to win a second term, is another one.
Even there, it’s not all insurers that are raising rates that much. Louisiana, for example, is only announcing rates for the insurers that are raising rates by 10 percent or more, so the picture that’s being made public is incomplete.

Sorry, as the article I linked says, premiums are going up in most states, and a lot in a few. But by all means, quibble away in defense of this turd of a law.

LOL where do you think it got the quote from dumbass

JFC. That was my point you dumbshit. I'm not hiding anything.

Serious question: Is english your first language? 

you are obviously making the point that those increases were contingent on the ACA, which isn't true. 

There is a reason why red states are turning to ACA, because its working better than the old system.  Continue to live in fear though. 

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Blatant lies

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

My opinions are based upon facts, not rhetoric

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Red States are turning to ACA

[CNS]

Well, this dumbass understands how to read a benefits coverage detail.  The only out of pocket increse was the one for emergency room use.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Well, this dumbass understands how to read a benefits coverage detail.  The only out of pocket increse was the one for emergency room use.

Sorry, meant dumbasses generally,  not specifically you, dumbass.

[ednksu]

Red States are turning to ACA

ooops my bad, blue states like Iowa and West Virginia 

lulz

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Roberts is going to get another chance to apply the ACA as written. Will he redeem himself?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/07/supreme-court-obama-health-care/18387167/

[renocat]

Hit myself in the head with a hammer, but there are some things I like about the Affordable Care Act, but itnneeds to be fixed.  Now we can get some sense built into by Republicans.