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[star seed 7]

not that it's really relevant, but I'm pretty sure that if you asked every college football fan in the country what game they would most like to watch in the mnc if their team couldn't/can't get in, 99% would say 'bama v. oregon.  those two completely different styles of football going head to head would be fascinating to watch...especially in light of saban crying about hurry-up offenses.

if anything scares me, it's that.  that being said, coaches' votes are the only ones that matter and I don't think they're going to drastically change their votes if both stay undefeated.

valid.

[ednksu]

I already had the worst time trying to convince everyone this weekend that ND winning is not only ok, but good.

3 more weeks of having to repeat myself is going to get old

explain to me why ND winning is good at this point since they are no longer between K-State and Oregon as a firewall. 

[Cire]

Hell, id love to see bama Oregon

[Rage Against the McKee]

I already had the worst time trying to convince everyone this weekend that ND winning is not only ok, but good.

3 more weeks of having to repeat myself is going to get old

explain to me why ND winning is good at this point since they are no longer between K-State and Oregon as a firewall.

They are in the computers. If ND loses, Oregon jumps to #2 immediately.

[MixBerryCrunch]

Is there a bigger fan of ND at this point than goEMAW? I rough ridin' love those mouth breathing, potato farming repsects.  <------but with a shamrock or whatever the eff the ND powercat is.

[MakeItRain]

I already had the worst time trying to convince everyone this weekend that ND winning is not only ok, but good.

3 more weeks of having to repeat myself is going to get old

explain to me why ND winning is good at this point since they are no longer between K-State and Oregon as a firewall.

They are  firewall in the computers, the polls at this point are a non-factor.  ND needs to stay in front in the computers, although I do wonder how many points on Oregon we'd gain in the polls.

[ednksu]

I already had the worst time trying to convince everyone this weekend that ND winning is not only ok, but good.

3 more weeks of having to repeat myself is going to get old

explain to me why ND winning is good at this point since they are no longer between K-State and Oregon as a firewall.

They are in the computers. If ND loses, Oregon jumps to #2 immediately.

Thank you, i remembered that as soon as I posted, I was focused on BCS rank instead of computer ranks.

[Panjandrum]

not that it's really relevant, but I'm pretty sure that if you asked every college football fan in the country what game they would most like to watch in the mnc if their team couldn't/can't get in, 99% would say 'bama v. oregon.  those two completely different styles of football going head to head would be fascinating to watch...especially in light of saban crying about hurry-up offenses.

if anything scares me, it's that.  that being said, coaches' votes are the only ones that matter and I don't think they're going to drastically change their votes if both stay undefeated.

valid.

A&M has run 732 plays this year.  Oregon has run 739.

If Saban has a problem with that kind of offense, we're going to see how they handle it next week.  My guess is that Bama does just fine, but I am interested to see how they handle an offense as fast paced and dynamic as A&M's.

[doom]

I already had the worst time trying to convince everyone this weekend that ND winning is not only ok, but good.

3 more weeks of having to repeat myself is going to get old

explain to me why ND winning is good at this point since they are no longer between K-State and Oregon as a firewall.

also the only ooc loss left for usc to devalue them. 

[ednksu]

does the computer delineate any kind of quasi conference when looking at ND or is it all noncom?  Does that matter in any poll?  I imagine only in people polls.

[Rage Against the McKee]

not that it's really relevant, but I'm pretty sure that if you asked every college football fan in the country what game they would most like to watch in the mnc if their team couldn't/can't get in, 99% would say 'bama v. oregon.  those two completely different styles of football going head to head would be fascinating to watch...especially in light of saban crying about hurry-up offenses.

if anything scares me, it's that.  that being said, coaches' votes are the only ones that matter and I don't think they're going to drastically change their votes if both stay undefeated.

valid.

A&M has run 732 plays this year.  Oregon has run 739.

If Saban has a problem with that kind of offense, we're going to see how they handle it next week.  My guess is that Bama does just fine, but I am interested to see how they handle an offense as fast paced and dynamic as A&M's.

This is a very good point. I think Alabama will crush A&M just like they would crush Oregon.

[Pete]

not that it's really relevant, but I'm pretty sure that if you asked every college football fan in the country what game they would most like to watch in the mnc if their team couldn't/can't get in, 99% would say 'bama v. oregon.  those two completely different styles of football going head to head would be fascinating to watch...especially in light of saban crying about hurry-up offenses.

if anything scares me, it's that.  that being said, coaches' votes are the only ones that matter and I don't think they're going to drastically change their votes if both stay undefeated.

valid.

A&M has run 732 plays this year.  Oregon has run 739.

If Saban has a problem with that kind of offense, we're going to see how they handle it next week.  My guess is that Bama does just fine, but I am interested to see how they handle an offense as fast paced and dynamic as A&M's.

Pan is good at this.

[TheHamburglar]

It's common knowledge if ND wins out, it really holds back Oregon in the computers.  However, if ND loses it gets tricky.  I crunched some numbers .  Oregon is so far back in the Sagarin, this is going to be their throw away.  Out of the remaining 5 computers, Florida is ahead of them in 3.  The problem is, Florida's remaining schedule is crap in the computers with UL-L (comp average of 67.25), FCS Jacksonville St., and Florida State (comp average of 21). 

Hold the human polls as is, ND loses, and Oregon jumps Florida in all 3 other computers - Oregon passes us.
Hold the human polls as is, ND loses, and Oregon jumps Florida in 2 or less of the other computers - We stay ahead of Oregon. 

Here is the kicker - if ND loses, then Bama would be 1st in 5 of the 6 computers and we would be 1st in the other.  If we took back 1st in 1 other computer, and even if Oregon passed Florida to have 3rd in all the computers, we would still be ahead of Oregon

I know this is alot of what-ifs, but I did it just to show how close it would be if you take ND out of the equation.  The redistribution of small number of ND's 2nd and 3rd place votes in the human polls could swing it either way. 

[chum1]

Yeah, Oregon doesn't automatically jump us if ND loses.

[doom]

not that it's really relevant, but I'm pretty sure that if you asked every college football fan in the country what game they would most like to watch in the mnc if their team couldn't/can't get in, 99% would say 'bama v. oregon.  those two completely different styles of football going head to head would be fascinating to watch...especially in light of saban crying about hurry-up offenses.

if anything scares me, it's that.  that being said, coaches' votes are the only ones that matter and I don't think they're going to drastically change their votes if both stay undefeated.

valid.

A&M has run 732 plays this year.  Oregon has run 739.

If Saban has a problem with that kind of offense, we're going to see how they handle it next week.  My guess is that Bama does just fine, but I am interested to see how they handle an offense as fast paced and dynamic as A&M's.

This will be a huge talking pt if bama wins a close one. 

[Barry McCockner]

I already had the worst time trying to convince everyone this weekend that ND winning is not only ok, but good.

3 more weeks of having to repeat myself is going to get old

explain to me why ND winning is good at this point since they are no longer between K-State and Oregon as a firewall.

They are  firewall in the computers, the polls at this point are a non-factor.  ND needs to stay in front in the computers, although I do wonder how many points on Oregon we'd gain in the polls.

Good question.  Oregon is has almost every 2nd place vote in the coaches, so assuming Bama wins out, they can't gain much there.  Apparently ND has a fair number of 3rds.  Seems logical to assume if they lose we'd pick up most of those.  Probably not enough to offset the computer numbers, though.  I suppose what would be the best would be ND continuing to look like crap while winning, although no one seems to be caring much.

[Katpappy]

If we keep winning, we're going to be fine.

  That's what was said on the ESPN BCS Standings show tonight. 

[Rams]

not that it's really relevant, but I'm pretty sure that if you asked every college football fan in the country what game they would most like to watch in the mnc if their team couldn't/can't get in, 99% would say 'bama v. oregon.  those two completely different styles of football going head to head would be fascinating to watch...especially in light of saban crying about hurry-up offenses.

if anything scares me, it's that.  that being said, coaches' votes are the only ones that matter and I don't think they're going to drastically change their votes if both stay undefeated.

valid.

A&M has run 732 plays this year.  Oregon has run 739.

If Saban has a problem with that kind of offense, we're going to see how they handle it next week.  My guess is that Bama does just fine, but I am interested to see how they handle an offense as fast paced and dynamic as A&M's.

wow.  I haven't watched a&m at all this year.  I had no idea they were running that kind of hurry-up high-powered offense. I usually only have the time/patience to watch us and parts of other big 12 games.  I have to assume the sheer effectiveness of oregon's offense has something to do with them being that close to a&m though. I mean, if it only takes you 4 plays to go the length of the field, that's going to cut down on the number of plays you have to run.

[jmlynch1]

I already had the worst time trying to convince everyone this weekend that ND winning is not only ok, but good.

3 more weeks of having to repeat myself is going to get old

me 2

[Rage Against the McKee]

not that it's really relevant, but I'm pretty sure that if you asked every college football fan in the country what game they would most like to watch in the mnc if their team couldn't/can't get in, 99% would say 'bama v. oregon.  those two completely different styles of football going head to head would be fascinating to watch...especially in light of saban crying about hurry-up offenses.

if anything scares me, it's that.  that being said, coaches' votes are the only ones that matter and I don't think they're going to drastically change their votes if both stay undefeated.

valid.

A&M has run 732 plays this year.  Oregon has run 739.

If Saban has a problem with that kind of offense, we're going to see how they handle it next week.  My guess is that Bama does just fine, but I am interested to see how they handle an offense as fast paced and dynamic as A&M's.

wow.  I haven't watched a&m at all this year.  I had no idea they were running that kind of hurry-up high-powered offense. I usually only have the time/patience to watch us and parts of other big 12 games.  I have to assume the sheer effectiveness of oregon's offense has something to do with them being that close to a&m though. I mean, if it only takes you 4 plays to go the length of the field, that's going to cut down on the number of plays you have to run.

It takes Oregon more plays to move down the field than K-State, though. At least that was true a week or two ago. I've not seen the updated stats.

[Rams]

not that it's really relevant, but I'm pretty sure that if you asked every college football fan in the country what game they would most like to watch in the mnc if their team couldn't/can't get in, 99% would say 'bama v. oregon.  those two completely different styles of football going head to head would be fascinating to watch...especially in light of saban crying about hurry-up offenses.

if anything scares me, it's that.  that being said, coaches' votes are the only ones that matter and I don't think they're going to drastically change their votes if both stay undefeated.

valid.

A&M has run 732 plays this year.  Oregon has run 739.

If Saban has a problem with that kind of offense, we're going to see how they handle it next week.  My guess is that Bama does just fine, but I am interested to see how they handle an offense as fast paced and dynamic as A&M's.

wow.  I haven't watched a&m at all this year.  I had no idea they were running that kind of hurry-up high-powered offense. I usually only have the time/patience to watch us and parts of other big 12 games.  I have to assume the sheer effectiveness of oregon's offense has something to do with them being that close to a&m though. I mean, if it only takes you 4 plays to go the length of the field, that's going to cut down on the number of plays you have to run.

It takes Oregon more plays to move down the field than K-State, though. At least that was true a week or two ago. I've not seen the updated stats.

yeah but it's a lethal combination of both.  they're not the most efficient, but they're the fastest and still really rough ridin' efficient.  a&m is maybe just fast. 

[Fuktard]

maybe luked but ND passed us in the Anderson Hester Poll.  Guess that beatdown of 4-5 Pitt did the trick. 

[Dual Ju]

Is there a bigger fan of ND at this point than goEMAW? I rough ridin' love those mouth breathing, potato farming repsects.  <------but with a shamrock or whatever the eff the ND powercat is.

As much as I despise ND in general, I'm 'ing right now.

<--Guinness

[Panjandrum]

I already had the worst time trying to convince everyone this weekend that ND winning is not only ok, but good.

3 more weeks of having to repeat myself is going to get old

explain to me why ND winning is good at this point since they are no longer between K-State and Oregon as a firewall.

They are  firewall in the computers, the polls at this point are a non-factor.  ND needs to stay in front in the computers, although I do wonder how many points on Oregon we'd gain in the polls.

I'd like computer experts to weigh in on this, but it seems like LSU and South Carolina could jump Oregon in the computer rankings should they win out.  Emphasis on could.

[Panjandrum]

not that it's really relevant, but I'm pretty sure that if you asked every college football fan in the country what game they would most like to watch in the mnc if their team couldn't/can't get in, 99% would say 'bama v. oregon.  those two completely different styles of football going head to head would be fascinating to watch...especially in light of saban crying about hurry-up offenses.

if anything scares me, it's that.  that being said, coaches' votes are the only ones that matter and I don't think they're going to drastically change their votes if both stay undefeated.

valid.

A&M has run 732 plays this year.  Oregon has run 739.

If Saban has a problem with that kind of offense, we're going to see how they handle it next week.  My guess is that Bama does just fine, but I am interested to see how they handle an offense as fast paced and dynamic as A&M's.

wow.  I haven't watched a&m at all this year.  I had no idea they were running that kind of hurry-up high-powered offense. I usually only have the time/patience to watch us and parts of other big 12 games.  I have to assume the sheer effectiveness of oregon's offense has something to do with them being that close to a&m though. I mean, if it only takes you 4 plays to go the length of the field, that's going to cut down on the number of plays you have to run.

It takes Oregon more plays to move down the field than K-State, though. At least that was true a week or two ago. I've not seen the updated stats.

yeah but it's a lethal combination of both.  they're not the most efficient, but they're the fastest and still really rough ridin' efficient.  a&m is maybe just fast. 

I've watched both a few times.

They both want to go fast and get as many plays as possible.  Oregon wants to run more (+103 attempts) and A&M wants to pass more (+96).  Actually, Oregon is a very run heavy team.  They're 4th in the nation in rush attempts and 1st in yards/carry.  A&M is top 30 in yards per pass attempt and top 20 in yards per completion.

A&M is incredibly dynamic because of Manzeil, and they've only lost two games this year to Florida and LSU, and that was by a combined 8 points.  You also have to take into consideration the fact that they're under a first year coach in a new conference.  What they've done is incredibly impressive given all of the change involved.

I don't think one man can beat Alabama, but the way the Tide acted after that win tells me they are on watch for an upset.  McCarron acted like he just won the Super Bowl.  A&M is too good, too dynamic, and I think they'll write this off as, "Hey, we beat Michigan, and A&M is like them," except that they're way better than Michigan, and Manzeil is better than Denard Robinson at this point.