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Mikeyis4dcats · « **Reply #1000 on:** November 04, 2012, 05:09:49 PM »

Quote from: ednksu on November 04, 2012, 04:59:02 PM

Does BCS factor in opponent rank in some way? I know margin of victory is out. Are there any kind of points scored included?

no, just W/L allegedly, but I don't see how they calculate anything with only that.

06wildcat · « **Reply #1001 on:** November 04, 2012, 05:54:15 PM »

Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats on November 04, 2012, 05:09:49 PM

Quote from: ednksu on November 04, 2012, 04:59:02 PM
Does BCS factor in opponent rank in some way? I know margin of victory is out. Are there any kind of points scored included?

no, just W/L allegedly, but I don't see how they calculate anything with only that.

Because while correct, the website Michigan linked was incomplete. He's talking specifically about MOV, which doesn't factor into the rankings so it is just win or lose in that sense. But SOS is also a part of the computers (and human polls too, hello Louisville).

There's a reason MOV isn't in the BCS and a prime example of it is ND vs. OU compared to KSU vs. OU. Plus unsportsmanlike stuff, too.

michigancat · « **Reply #1002 on:** November 04, 2012, 06:17:52 PM »

Quote from: 06wildcat on November 04, 2012, 05:54:15 PM

Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats on November 04, 2012, 05:09:49 PM
Quote from: ednksu on November 04, 2012, 04:59:02 PM
Does BCS factor in opponent rank in some way? I know margin of victory is out. Are there any kind of points scored included?

no, just W/L allegedly, but I don't see how they calculate anything with only that.

Because while correct, the website Michigan linked was incomplete. He's talking specifically about MOV, which doesn't factor into the rankings so it is just win or lose in that sense. But SOS is also a part of the computers (and human polls too, hello Louisville).

There's a reason MOV isn't in the BCS and a prime example of it is ND vs. OU compared to KSU vs. OU. Plus unsportsmanlike stuff, too.

The link said they can't pull anything from a box score other than who won or lost.

Basically what all these polls are doing is calculating SOS different ways and determining who did best based on that.

Johnny Thunderbone · « **Reply #1003 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:28:04 PM »

Turned on ESPN. BCS Countdown teaser came on during NFL Live. Heard "What? Alabama's not number 1?" At first I was

, but then I was

MixBerryCrunch · « **Reply #1004 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:38:28 PM »

.932

ednksu · « **Reply #1005 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:39:11 PM »

zomg firewall worked for one more week!

MixBerryCrunch · « **Reply #1006 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:40:42 PM »

How the eff is ND ahead of us in the computers?

Pete · « **Reply #1007 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:41:12 PM »

Please do not lose, Notre Dame!

MixBerryCrunch · « **Reply #1008 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:42:07 PM »

Jesse Palmer is acting like he wants to go down on Chip Kelly. Thank Gawd for Pollack.

ednksu · « **Reply #1009 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:44:04 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on November 04, 2012, 06:17:52 PM

Quote from: 06wildcat on November 04, 2012, 05:54:15 PM
Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats on November 04, 2012, 05:09:49 PM
Quote from: ednksu on November 04, 2012, 04:59:02 PM
Does BCS factor in opponent rank in some way? I know margin of victory is out. Are there any kind of points scored included?

no, just W/L allegedly, but I don't see how they calculate anything with only that.

Because while correct, the website Michigan linked was incomplete. He's talking specifically about MOV, which doesn't factor into the rankings so it is just win or lose in that sense. But SOS is also a part of the computers (and human polls too, hello Louisville).

There's a reason MOV isn't in the BCS and a prime example of it is ND vs. OU compared to KSU vs. OU. Plus unsportsmanlike stuff, too.

The link said they can't pull anything from a box score other than who won or lost.

Basically what all these polls are doing is calculating SOS different ways and determining who did best based on that.

So to make sure I have my basics correct: SOS will include rankings at time they play, but will not be effected if they drop later? Here is basically what I'm asking. We beat a #15 WVU or whatever they were. At the end of the year when looking at rankings will it be shown that we beat a ranked team on week 7 in our SOS calculation or will it be an unranked team?

Mikeyis4dcats · « **Reply #1010 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:44:52 PM »

Palm was way off. But off almost the same on both of us.

TheHamburglar · « **Reply #1011 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:45:32 PM »

Quote from: ednksu on November 04, 2012, 07:44:04 PM

Quote from: michigancat on November 04, 2012, 06:17:52 PM
Quote from: 06wildcat on November 04, 2012, 05:54:15 PM
Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats on November 04, 2012, 05:09:49 PM
Quote from: ednksu on November 04, 2012, 04:59:02 PM
Does BCS factor in opponent rank in some way? I know margin of victory is out. Are there any kind of points scored included?

no, just W/L allegedly, but I don't see how they calculate anything with only that.

Because while correct, the website Michigan linked was incomplete. He's talking specifically about MOV, which doesn't factor into the rankings so it is just win or lose in that sense. But SOS is also a part of the computers (and human polls too, hello Louisville).

There's a reason MOV isn't in the BCS and a prime example of it is ND vs. OU compared to KSU vs. OU. Plus unsportsmanlike stuff, too.

The link said they can't pull anything from a box score other than who won or lost.

Basically what all these polls are doing is calculating SOS different ways and determining who did best based on that.
So to make sure I have my basics correct: SOS will include rankings at time they play, but will not be effected if they drop later? Here is basically what I'm asking. We beat a #15 WVU or whatever they were. At the end of the year when looking at rankings will it be shown that we beat a ranked team on week 7 in our SOS calculation or will it be an unranked team?

unranked

star seed 7 · « **Reply #1012 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:45:56 PM »

Quote from: MixBerryCrunch on November 04, 2012, 07:40:42 PM

How the eff is ND ahead of us in the computers?

wins against weak opponents that have wins against really weak opponents.

kim carnes · « **Reply #1013 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:46:07 PM »

we're screwed.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #1014 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:46:16 PM »

Holy crap, how in the hell is ND ahead of us in the computers when we were tied last week? Good news is we're running right by those losers next week. Better news, Johnny Football is going to shock the world!

Mikeyis4dcats · « **Reply #1015 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:47:42 PM »

looks like we all gave up position to Bama in computers, more than I expected

ednksu · « **Reply #1016 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:49:04 PM »

okay people explain the computers thing to me. how does that happen?

also can we now root for every team to lose? Last weeked we needed ND as a firewall and that hasn't helped us apparently.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #1017 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:50:57 PM »

Quote from: ednksu on November 04, 2012, 07:49:04 PM

okay people explain the computers thing to me. how does that happen?

also can we now root for every team to lose? Last weeked we needed ND as a firewall and that hasn't helped us apparently.

do you see where ksu is 2 and oregon is 3?

maybe you didn't see that.

Pete · « **Reply #1018 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:51:17 PM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on November 04, 2012, 07:46:16 PM

Better news, Johnny Football is going to shock the world!

hemmy · « **Reply #1019 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:51:28 PM »

Oregon is jumping us, sorry fellas

I've seen enough to call it.

Stevesie60 · « **Reply #1020 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:51:38 PM »

You know who is to blame for all of this? The LSU kicker. If he makes that, and they actually get to kick it off to Alabama, it's just us an Oregon right now, praying the other one loses so that we get to play the crappiest undefeated team that has ever existed: Notre Dame.

Mikeyis4dcats · « **Reply #1021 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:53:25 PM »

Quote from: ednksu on November 04, 2012, 07:49:04 PM

okay people explain the computers thing to me. how does that happen?

also can we now root for every team to lose? Last weeked we needed ND as a firewall and that hasn't helped us apparently.

you don't understand how this works. See all those 4s and 5s beside Oregon? If ND loses, those become 3s and 4s. And the gap narrows between KSU and Oregon

http://espn.go.com/college-football/bcs

CHONGS · « **Reply #1022 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:54:04 PM »

Quote from: ednksu on November 04, 2012, 07:49:04 PM

okay people explain the computers thing to me. how does that happen?

also can we now root for every team to lose? Last weeked we needed ND as a firewall and that hasn't helped us apparently.

its like RPI for many of the computers. playing the big 10 teams is helping ND a bit because they in turn feast on MAC teams. its all about opponents opponents schedule. I personally think its a stupid way to determine SOS ( and rewards a team for losing to "good teams" more so than beating average or below average teams).

GoodForAnother · « **Reply #1023 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:54:48 PM »

it is going to be ok

Mikeyis4dcats · « **Reply #1024 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:55:03 PM »

Quote from: Jakesie60 on November 04, 2012, 07:51:38 PM

You know who is to blame for all of this? The LSU kicker. If he makes that, and they actually get to kick it off to Alabama, it's just us an Oregon right now, praying the other one loses so that we get to play the crappiest undefeated team that has ever existed: Notre Dame.

Les Miles is to blame. Who fakes a FG with the lead, at the 29 yd line on 4th and rough ridin' 12?!?