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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #525 on: April 01, 2013, 10:34:08 AM »
prosecution is going for the death penalty

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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #526 on: April 01, 2013, 10:35:28 AM »
prosecution is going for the death penalty

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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #527 on: April 01, 2013, 10:37:41 AM »
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/01/holmes-court-appearance-today/2041881/

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CENTENNIAL, COLO. - Arapahoe County prosecutors will seek the death penalty against graduate school dropout James Holmes, accused of first-degree murder in the July 2012 deaths of 12 Aurora movie theater goers.

At a court hearing Monday, George Brauchler, Arapahoe County's District Attorney, formally rejected a defense bid that Holmes plead guilty in exchange for a life sentence without parole. Holmes faces an August trial for killing 12. Nearly 70 others were wounded or injured while fleeing. Judge William Slyvester entered a not guilty plea on Holmes' behalf last month.

"In this case, for James Egan Holmes, justice is death," Brauchler said, after explained his office has spoken with more than 800 victims and their families.

Holmes showed no visible reaction to the announcement, but his parents clasped hands and then embraced.

Holmes' court appointed attorneys said in a court filing last week that their guilty plea offer could have ended prolonged legal maneuvering. "Mr. Holmes is currently willing to resolve the case to bring the proceedings to a speedy and definite conclusion for all involved," Holmes' lawyers said in their motion.

Without such a deal, public defenders Daniel King and Tamara Brady said that an insanity defense virtually a lock. They've said repeatedly at prior hearings that Holmes, who dropped out of a University of Colorado neuroscience doctoral program after failing a final exam in May, suffers from mental illness. Holmes, 25, was undergoing psychiatric care before dropping out in May.

In a response to the filing, Brauchler said that the plea offer was a "unusual and unprecedented" and done as a publicity ploy that violates Judge William Sylvester's standing gag order on the case.

Legal experts say without a plea deal, an insanity defense may be Holmes' only legal recourse. At his January preliminary hearing, prosecutors presented seeming overwhelming evidence that showed Holmes methodically planning his July 20 attack at Aurora's Century 16 theater complex, buying an assault rifle, shotgun, two semi-automatic pistols, over 6,000 rounds of ammunition, bomb-making material and other gear for nearly two months prior to shootings.

Photos from his cellphone showed he had staked out the rear of the theater and exit doors before the shootings. Aurora police arrested Holmes in the rear of the theater parking lot minutes after the shootings.

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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #528 on: April 01, 2013, 10:39:44 AM »
Such a waste of time and money. Take him out back and put a bullet in his head

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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #529 on: April 01, 2013, 10:44:39 AM »
Such a waste of time and money. Take him out back and put a bullet in his head

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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #530 on: April 01, 2013, 10:51:58 AM »
Like I don't disagree that he should die, but he's crazy, right?  And we (as a country) don't believe in capital punishment for the insane, right?  But we do when it's convenient, right?

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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #531 on: April 01, 2013, 10:55:01 AM »
Like I don't disagree that he should die, but he's crazy, right?  And we (as a country) don't believe in capital punishment for the insane, right?  But we do when it's convenient, right?

you should do a little more research on the subject, those are some big bridges you're building.


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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #532 on: April 01, 2013, 10:56:42 AM »
Like I don't disagree that he should die, but he's crazy, right?  And we (as a country) don't believe in capital punishment for the insane, right?  But we do when it's convenient, right?

Its these kinds of posts and make me really happy I never go into the DK dome or whatever its called these days.
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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #533 on: April 01, 2013, 10:58:05 AM »
Like I don't disagree that he should die, but he's crazy, right?  And we (as a country) don't believe in capital punishment for the insane, right?  But we do when it's convenient, right?

I don't think we should every use capital punishment.

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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #534 on: April 01, 2013, 10:59:32 AM »
Ok, I guess baby steps.  He's insane, right?  I think that's pretty evident.

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« Reply #535 on: April 01, 2013, 11:02:20 AM »
Ok, I guess baby steps.  He's insane, right?  I think that's pretty evident.

He very well could be but there was extensive planning that went into his actions.

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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #536 on: April 01, 2013, 11:04:55 AM »
Sure.  But like crazy people that are capable of planning we can execute?  Just seems like a hypocritical deal.

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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #537 on: April 01, 2013, 11:05:58 AM »
He deserves to die a miserable death

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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #538 on: April 01, 2013, 11:08:03 AM »
Totally agree. 

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« Reply #539 on: April 01, 2013, 11:11:25 AM »
Insanity in the eyes of the law is different than what most people would consider insane.  Clearly this Holmes character is mentally unstable, but all the planning and thought that he put into the act shows he was not insane in the eyes of the law.  Essentially it shows he understood the actions he was taking and appreciated what he was doing.  There are several different insanity that different states use, but you get the gist of it.

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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #540 on: April 01, 2013, 11:14:09 AM »
they need to sentence him to a laboratory where they study him and do invasive experiments and figure out exactly why this happened

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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #541 on: April 01, 2013, 11:14:58 AM »
our insanity laws are frickin nuts, man!

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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #542 on: April 01, 2013, 11:18:31 AM »
Why would we be against killing insane people that meticulously planned the murders of several people? Because they are insane? Pfft. Silly argument.
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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #543 on: April 01, 2013, 11:19:00 AM »
Insanity in the eyes of the law is different than what most people would consider insane.  Clearly this Holmes character is mentally unstable, but all the planning and thought that he put into the act shows he was not insane in the eyes of the law.  Essentially it shows he understood the actions he was taking and appreciated what he was doing.  There are several different insanity that different states use, but you get the gist of it.

Do you think killing him has any deterrent value?  Most of these guys off themselves anyway.  A lifetime in a lab being poked and prodded might be more punitive.

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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #544 on: April 01, 2013, 11:24:08 AM »
I don't see how a Christian Nation could be OK with killing people.

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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #545 on: April 01, 2013, 11:52:15 AM »
I don't see how a Christian Nation could be OK with killing people.

As long as they aren't fetuses, eff em!

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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #546 on: April 01, 2013, 12:09:02 PM »
Insanity in the eyes of the law is different than what most people would consider insane.  Clearly this Holmes character is mentally unstable, but all the planning and thought that he put into the act shows he was not insane in the eyes of the law.  Essentially it shows he understood the actions he was taking and appreciated what he was doing.  There are several different insanity that different states use, but you get the gist of it.

Do you think killing him has any deterrent value?  Most of these guys off themselves anyway.  A lifetime in a lab being poked and prodded might be more punitive.

I don't really think it is a deterrent, but then again I'm not real high on the death penalty to begin with.

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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #547 on: April 01, 2013, 01:20:37 PM »
Okay.  So like full steam ahead with killing him, but let's not pretend we're occupying the high moral ground.

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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #548 on: April 01, 2013, 01:35:52 PM »
Like I don't disagree that he should die, but he's crazy, right?  And we (as a country) don't believe in capital punishment for the insane, right?  But we do when it's convenient, right?

I don't think we should every use capital punishment.

agreed.  i've seen too many shows on late night trutv about people being falsely accused.   :ohno:

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Re: Aurora Shooting
« Reply #549 on: April 01, 2013, 01:39:29 PM »
Remind me again what the cost difference is between the injection and putting up a criminal for life?

IIRC, the injection is way more expensive than you'd think.
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