Lowery Interview on 1350

[Cire]

If we don't make the sweet sixteen this coming season he should be fired on spot.  So should currie

[sonofdaxjones]

So if the posts on Wabash are to true, it sounds like Frank had burned multiple AAU bridges and had pissed up the KC AAU punch bowl so badly that K-State was pretty much locked out completely.

[Trim]

So if the posts on Wabash are to true, it sounds like Frank had burned multiple AAU bridges and had pissed up the KC AAU punch bowl so badly that K-State was pretty much locked out completely.

Yes, dax, I'm aware that Doc's disgruntled people have told many EMAWs that Frank sucks and that all of those EMAWs are spreading that info in every forum available.

[sonofdaxjones]

So if the posts on Wabash are to true, it sounds like Frank had burned multiple AAU bridges and had pissed up the KC AAU punch bowl so badly that K-State was pretty much locked out completely.

Yes, dax, I'm aware that Doc's disgruntled people have told many EMAWs that Frank sucks and that all of those EMAWs are spreading that info in every forum available.

Yeah, I am sure TeamDoc consists of legions of people.   

[Trim]

So if the posts on Wabash are to true, it sounds like Frank had burned multiple AAU bridges and had pissed up the KC AAU punch bowl so badly that K-State was pretty much locked out completely.

Yes, dax, I'm aware that Doc's disgruntled people have told many EMAWs that Frank sucks and that all of those EMAWs are spreading that info in every forum available.

Yeah, I am sure TeamDoc consists of legions of people.   

5 or less who whine to every EMAW they can find and will happy to feeling ITK.

[sonofdaxjones]

So if the posts on Wabash are to true, it sounds like Frank had burned multiple AAU bridges and had pissed up the KC AAU punch bowl so badly that K-State was pretty much locked out completely.

Yes, dax, I'm aware that Doc's disgruntled people have told many EMAWs that Frank sucks and that all of those EMAWs are spreading that info in every forum available.

Yeah, I am sure TeamDoc consists of legions of people.   

5 or less who whine to every EMAW they can find and will happy to feeling ITK.

Oh yeah, I am sure they were all out to get Frank.   Could never actually see Frank burning any bridges now that I think about it.   

[Trim]

So if the posts on Wabash are to true, it sounds like Frank had burned multiple AAU bridges and had pissed up the KC AAU punch bowl so badly that K-State was pretty much locked out completely.

Yes, dax, I'm aware that Doc's disgruntled people have told many EMAWs that Frank sucks and that all of those EMAWs are spreading that info in every forum available.

Yeah, I am sure TeamDoc consists of legions of people.   

5 or less who whine to every EMAW they can find and will happy to feeling ITK.

Oh yeah, I am sure they were all out to get Frank.   Could never actually see Frank burning any bridges now that I think about it.   

How many of the ITK sources on this issue have a last name starting with something other than "S"?

[puniraptor]

 

[sonofdaxjones]

So if the posts on Wabash are to true, it sounds like Frank had burned multiple AAU bridges and had pissed up the KC AAU punch bowl so badly that K-State was pretty much locked out completely.

Yes, dax, I'm aware that Doc's disgruntled people have told many EMAWs that Frank sucks and that all of those EMAWs are spreading that info in every forum available.

Yeah, I am sure TeamDoc consists of legions of people.   

5 or less who whine to every EMAW they can find and will happy to feeling ITK.

Oh yeah, I am sure they were all out to get Frank.   Could never actually see Frank burning any bridges now that I think about it.   

How many of the ITK sources on this issue have a last name starting with something other than "S"?

Doesn't matter Trim#TeamFrank, you don't go burn down the house (Did I just say that) of a potential huge client right down the road from your headquarters.   Particularly when that client networks with a bunch of other potential clients.   Nothing says great PR when it becomes clear that a guy has gone overboard into abusive dickhole land. 

The problem wth the Frankites is that they give a little lip service to the warts and then try to pass that off as being objective.   The warts were gigantic even if you toss out Currie.   

Hey guys, I love this place so much that I told two of my recruits NOT to sign their LOI . . . love ya!

[ben ji]

So if the posts on Wabash are to true, it sounds like Frank had burned multiple AAU bridges and had pissed up the KC AAU punch bowl so badly that K-State was pretty much locked out completely.

Yes, dax, I'm aware that Doc's disgruntled people have told many EMAWs that Frank sucks and that all of those EMAWs are spreading that info in every forum available.

Yeah, I am sure TeamDoc consists of legions of people.   

5 or less who whine to every EMAW they can find and will happy to feeling ITK.

Oh yeah, I am sure they were all out to get Frank.   Could never actually see Frank burning any bridges now that I think about it.   

Man o man, I read goEMAW too much. Everytime I see or hear anything about burning bridges I immediately think

"May the bridges I burn light the way"

[Cire]

I agree that martin likely burned kc bridges, but wtf have we gotten from there anyway?  success of the program has nothing to do with success with kc kids.

[Trim]

So if the posts on Wabash are to true, it sounds like Frank had burned multiple AAU bridges and had pissed up the KC AAU punch bowl so badly that K-State was pretty much locked out completely.

Yes, dax, I'm aware that Doc's disgruntled people have told many EMAWs that Frank sucks and that all of those EMAWs are spreading that info in every forum available.

Yeah, I am sure TeamDoc consists of legions of people.   

5 or less who whine to every EMAW they can find and will happy to feeling ITK.

Oh yeah, I am sure they were all out to get Frank.   Could never actually see Frank burning any bridges now that I think about it.   

How many of the ITK sources on this issue have a last name starting with something other than "S"?

Doesn't matter Trim#TeamFrank, you don't go burn down the house (Did I just say that) of a potential huge client right down the road from your headquarters.   Particularly when that client networks with a bunch of other potential clients.   Nothing says great PR when it becomes clear that a guy has gone overboard into abusive dickhole land. 

The problem wth the Frankites is that they give a little lip service to the warts and then try to pass that off as being objective.   The warts were gigantic even if you toss out Currie.   

Hey guys, I love this place so much that I told two my recruits NOT to sign their LOI . . . love ya!

Dax, my point is that it doesn't matter how much his story gets posted by different people in different places.  It's still one story.  You see what I mean? 

Obviously, a story told by people in KC to EMAW fans are going to get regurgitated on EMAW message boards often.

I'm aware that Frank's a weirdo, but it's not due to Doc's coaches/parents crying about it to everyone with a computer.

[Trim]

Man o man, I read goEMAW too much. Everytime I see or hear anything about burning bridges I immediately think

"May the bridges I burn light the way"

Panjandrum said it on koppe's podcast the other night and didn't even realize it. 

[Belvis Noland]

Color me confused.  4/5 NCAAs is perfectly acceptable by any standards but 3/5 NCAAs is unequivocally, absolutely fireable.  Hell, even Frank, the gold standard, the best, platinum club coach we've ever had was a 4/5 NCAA coach. 

Where do I think Weber's conference record will be in 5 years... 

I think we'll be above .550 - .600 conseratively.  Assuming an 18 game schedule, and having no idea who our coaching staff or recruiting classes will be...

'12 - 13-5 NCAA
'13 - 8-10 NIT
'14 - 9-9 NCAA/NIT
'15 - 10-8 NCAA
'16 - 10-8 NCAA

50 - 40 conference. 

Obviously, these numbers could change pretty dramatically.  If Angel transfers, I don't see us going 13-5 in year 1.  If we line up Jerrance Howard and lock up some high caliber talent, maybe we don't take a big step back in year 2.  Then again, maybe losing Gruds, JO, Irving, etc. was going to cause a big step back in '13 no matter who the coach was.  I don't know. 

Just so people can really clarify the absurdity, the above record of 50-40 is a mere 4-5 conference wins lower (as a %) than what Martin achieved at K-State.  And it seems that most would categorize this record as an abject failure.   

[pissclams]

If I start a "Doc Spradler, This Is Your Life!" thread, do you think we could eventually get all the ITK sources to post here?

i think winters started that one yesterday

[sonofdaxjones]

I agree that martin likely burned kc bridges, but wtf have we gotten from there anyway?  success of the program has nothing to do with success with kc kids.

2 highly touted recruits who were very interested in K-State ended up, or would have ended up elsewhere for pretty much one reason . . . and LOL at Frank for supposedly being pissed and thinking that an AAU coach was steering kids elsewhere.   When first hand information gets back to an AAU coach that a college basketball coach has become an abusive dickhole 24/7, what does the college basketball coach expect to happen?

[pissclams]

I agree that martin likely burned kc bridges, but wtf have we gotten from there anyway?  success of the program has nothing to do with success with kc kids.

2 highly touted recruits who were very interested in K-State ended up, or would have ended up elsewhere for pretty much one reason . . . and LOL at Frank for supposedly being pissed and thinking that an AAU coach was steering kids elsewhere.   When first hand information gets back to an AAU coach that a college basketball coach has become an abusive dickhole 24/7, what does the college basketball coach expect to happen?

frank didn't expect anything to happen.  he felt he didn't need suther or his kids.  that's how rough ridin' lost he became.

[Belvis Noland]

I agree that martin likely burned kc bridges, but wtf have we gotten from there anyway? 

Willie Cauley and Semi Ojeleye. 

The question isn't what have we gotten.  The question is what have we lost. 

[Cire]

Cauley hated us.

[420seriouscat69]

Cauley hated us.

Do you blame him?

[sonofdaxjones]

So if the posts on Wabash are to true, it sounds like Frank had burned multiple AAU bridges and had pissed up the KC AAU punch bowl so badly that K-State was pretty much locked out completely.

Yes, dax, I'm aware that Doc's disgruntled people have told many EMAWs that Frank sucks and that all of those EMAWs are spreading that info in every forum available.

Yeah, I am sure TeamDoc consists of legions of people.   

5 or less who whine to every EMAW they can find and will happy to feeling ITK.

Oh yeah, I am sure they were all out to get Frank.   Could never actually see Frank burning any bridges now that I think about it.   

How many of the ITK sources on this issue have a last name starting with something other than "S"?

Doesn't matter Trim#TeamFrank, you don't go burn down the house (Did I just say that) of a potential huge client right down the road from your headquarters.   Particularly when that client networks with a bunch of other potential clients.   Nothing says great PR when it becomes clear that a guy has gone overboard into abusive dickhole land. 

The problem wth the Frankites is that they give a little lip service to the warts and then try to pass that off as being objective.   The warts were gigantic even if you toss out Currie.   

Hey guys, I love this place so much that I told two my recruits NOT to sign their LOI . . . love ya!

Dax, my point is that it doesn't matter how much his story gets posted by different people in different places.  It's still one story.  You see what I mean? 

Obviously, a story told by people in KC to EMAW fans are going to get regurgitated on EMAW message boards often.

I'm aware that Frank's a weirdo, but it's not due to Doc's coaches/parents crying about it to everyone with a computer.

I don't disagree.   

But we know that Jo was on the verge of quitting, Rodney has almost left . . . they don't talk to people?   You can't have 2,3,4 guys riding off into the sunset every year before it becomes too much to overcome on the recruiting trail.   

Plus, IMO Frank deserved the bad PR, no kid has to put up with the BS that Frank was saying to Doc and I am about as old school as it gets.   You don't get personal with a kid who is beat to hell and still playing his ass off for you out on the floor.    Particularly when that kid is linked back to an AAU program that seems to have had a decent run of high major prospects coming through it of late.   If Frank wanted somebody better than Doc than he should have gone out and recruited them.

[pissclams]

So if the posts on Wabash are to true, it sounds like Frank had burned multiple AAU bridges and had pissed up the KC AAU punch bowl so badly that K-State was pretty much locked out completely.

Yes, dax, I'm aware that Doc's disgruntled people have told many EMAWs that Frank sucks and that all of those EMAWs are spreading that info in every forum available.

Yeah, I am sure TeamDoc consists of legions of people.   

5 or less who whine to every EMAW they can find and will happy to feeling ITK.

Oh yeah, I am sure they were all out to get Frank.   Could never actually see Frank burning any bridges now that I think about it.   

How many of the ITK sources on this issue have a last name starting with something other than "S"?

Doesn't matter Trim#TeamFrank, you don't go burn down the house (Did I just say that) of a potential huge client right down the road from your headquarters.   Particularly when that client networks with a bunch of other potential clients.   Nothing says great PR when it becomes clear that a guy has gone overboard into abusive dickhole land. 

The problem wth the Frankites is that they give a little lip service to the warts and then try to pass that off as being objective.   The warts were gigantic even if you toss out Currie.   

Hey guys, I love this place so much that I told two my recruits NOT to sign their LOI . . . love ya!

Dax, my point is that it doesn't matter how much his story gets posted by different people in different places.  It's still one story.  You see what I mean? 

Obviously, a story told by people in KC to EMAW fans are going to get regurgitated on EMAW message boards often.

I'm aware that Frank's a weirdo, but it's not due to Doc's coaches/parents crying about it to everyone with a computer.

I don't disagree.   

But we know that Jo was on the verge of quitting, Rodney has almost left . . . they don't talk to people?   You can't have 2,3,4 guys riding off into the sunset every year before it becomes too much to overcome on the recruiting trail.   

Plus, IMO Frank deserved the bad PR, no kid has to put up with the BS that Frank was saying to Doc and I am about as old school as it gets.   You don't get personal with a kid who is beat to hell and still playing his ass off for you out on the floor.    Particularly when that kid is linked back to an AAU program that seems to have had a decent run of high major prospects coming through it of late.   If Frank wanted somebody better than Doc than he should have gone out and recruited them.

sorry but frank didn't do anything wrong and weber sucks.  learn to post here.

[WillieWatanabe]

Can't believe i somewhat agree with Dax on this. goddamnit Frank.

[sonofdaxjones]

So if the posts on Wabash are to true, it sounds like Frank had burned multiple AAU bridges and had pissed up the KC AAU punch bowl so badly that K-State was pretty much locked out completely.

Yes, dax, I'm aware that Doc's disgruntled people have told many EMAWs that Frank sucks and that all of those EMAWs are spreading that info in every forum available.

Yeah, I am sure TeamDoc consists of legions of people.   

5 or less who whine to every EMAW they can find and will happy to feeling ITK.

Oh yeah, I am sure they were all out to get Frank.   Could never actually see Frank burning any bridges now that I think about it.   

How many of the ITK sources on this issue have a last name starting with something other than "S"?

Doesn't matter Trim#TeamFrank, you don't go burn down the house (Did I just say that) of a potential huge client right down the road from your headquarters.   Particularly when that client networks with a bunch of other potential clients.   Nothing says great PR when it becomes clear that a guy has gone overboard into abusive dickhole land. 

The problem wth the Frankites is that they give a little lip service to the warts and then try to pass that off as being objective.   The warts were gigantic even if you toss out Currie.   

Hey guys, I love this place so much that I told two my recruits NOT to sign their LOI . . . love ya!

Dax, my point is that it doesn't matter how much his story gets posted by different people in different places.  It's still one story.  You see what I mean? 

Obviously, a story told by people in KC to EMAW fans are going to get regurgitated on EMAW message boards often.

I'm aware that Frank's a weirdo, but it's not due to Doc's coaches/parents crying about it to everyone with a computer.

I don't disagree.   

But we know that Jo was on the verge of quitting, Rodney has almost left . . . they don't talk to people?   You can't have 2,3,4 guys riding off into the sunset every year before it becomes too much to overcome on the recruiting trail.   

Plus, IMO Frank deserved the bad PR, no kid has to put up with the BS that Frank was saying to Doc and I am about as old school as it gets.   You don't get personal with a kid who is beat to hell and still playing his ass off for you out on the floor.    Particularly when that kid is linked back to an AAU program that seems to have had a decent run of high major prospects coming through it of late.   If Frank wanted somebody better than Doc than he should have gone out and recruited them.

sorry but frank didn't do anything wrong and weber sucks.  learn to post here.

Stick to recipes Piss.

[420seriouscat69]