You better have some rough ridin' answers, Currie.

[420seriouscat69]

Daris, I appreciate you being real about it. I love Samuels, I really really do. But I think the anger should be pointed at him. Even JO's mom said it wouldn't surprise her. It's ok to believe he mumped up. With that said, he would have made an impact, but they were clearly the better team.

my current anger is pointed at you and other people saying that him not playing was a non factor in the outcome. i could care less right now about jamar or currie or frank or whatever, but you are a complete dumbass for saying that syracuse would've won regardless.

who the eff cares who the better team is/was? who is/was better...mu or norfolk? would norfalk have won if o'quinn would've been ruled ineligible right before the game? eff man. don't be such a rough ridin' idiot. it might have made a difference. how the eff can you disagree w/ that.

    

[wabash909]

This absolutely blows my mind.

I mean, can anyone on here fathom Cheyenne Zulu suspending Tyshawn Taylor for a fringe improper benefit 15 minutes before a tournament game?

I mean, really?

It goes like this, Cheyenne, you've got one effing job.  Make Bill Self happy and don't interfere with the basketball program and the way we win basketball games.

[sys]

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/tournament/2012/story/_/id/7701275/2012-ncaa-tournament-kansas-state-wildcats-hold-jamar-samuels-eligibility-concern

Frank makes it sound like he was involved with the decision to hold Jamar out....

Well those quotes from Frank should take care of the "eff John Currie" talking point. 

But it probably won't. 

i like the way martin enunciates "err".  i know how he enunciates "err" because i watched the rough ridin' presser, from which these rough ridin' quotes are drawn.  the one where he rough ridin' said it was not his decision to not let samuels play and where he rough ridin' proclaimed that samuels did nothing wrong.

[Kat Kid]

This is what finally draws the line in the sand.

Are you #teamFrank?

Ask yourself that question.

[Cire]

Team frank

[j-dub]

This is what finally draws the line in the sand.

Are you #teamFrank?

Ask yourself that question.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/tournament/2012/story/_/id/7701275/2012-ncaa-tournament-kansas-state-wildcats-hold-jamar-samuels-eligibility-concern

Frank makes it sound like he was involved with the decision to hold Jamar out....

Well those quotes from Frank should take care of the "eff John Currie" talking point. 

But it probably won't. 

i like the way martin enunciates "err".  i know how he enunciates "err" because i watched the rough ridin' presser, from which these rough ridin' quotes are drawn.  the one where he rough ridin' said it was not his decision to not let samuels play and where he rough ridin' proclaimed that samuels did nothing wrong.

#teamdaris #teampete #teamsys #teamramskimcarnesfanningaredumbasses

and most importantly #teamfrank

i'm so hurt and angry right now.

[0.42]

This is what finally draws the line in the sand.

Are you #teamFrank?

Ask yourself that question.

Throw Currie in the 'Kaw unless by some miracle this wasn't self-reported.

[Cartierfor3]

Team frank

All we wanted is a chance. 

[chum1]

Actually, I think it is more naive to think that there's a decent chance that Samuels would have made a difference today than not.  Syracuse was just way better.  Before they started trying to run out the clock with 6:00 left, they were crushing us in the second half.  And Samuels is overall pretty replaceable.  Being the leading or second leading anything isn't that big of a deal on a team full of role players.

[Cartierfor3]

Actually, I think it is more naive to think that there's a decent chance that Samuels would have made a difference today than not.  Syracuse was just way better.  Before they started trying to run out the clock with 6:00 left, they were crushing us in the second half.  And Samuels is overall pretty replaceable.  Being the leading or second leading anything isn't that big of a deal on a team full of role players.

Question.  Why are you guys arguing about if Samuels would've made the difference or not? 

[j-dub]

Actually, I think it is more naive to think that there's a decent chance that Samuels would have made a difference today than not.  Syracuse was just way better.  Before they started trying to run out the clock with 6:00 left, they were crushing us in the second half.  And Samuels is overall pretty replaceable.  Being the leading or second leading anything isn't that big of a deal on a team full of role players.

Question.  Why are you guys arguing about if Samuels would've made the difference or not?

no crap. not the point dumbasses. bigger picture you effing morons.

[0.42]

Actually, I think it is more naive to think that there's a decent chance that Samuels would have made a difference today than not.  Syracuse was just way better.  Before they started trying to run out the clock with 6:00 left, they were crushing us in the second half.  And Samuels is overall pretty replaceable.  Being the leading or second leading anything isn't that big of a deal on a team full of role players.

Having Jamar in could potentially have changed the dynamic on both sides of the court. Fewer buckets down low. Not having to rely exclusively on JO inside. Pressure taken off of Rodney and Angel and Sprads to create. 'Cuse is good, and if they shot the way they did in the second half, it wouldn't have mattered. But if Jamar was in, there's a chance he flusters them enough to make it so that they don't shoot that way. There's a chance our offense isn't so atrocious.

But now we'll never know. That's the point.

[chum1]

Actually, I think it is more naive to think that there's a decent chance that Samuels would have made a difference today than not.  Syracuse was just way better.  Before they started trying to run out the clock with 6:00 left, they were crushing us in the second half.  And Samuels is overall pretty replaceable.  Being the leading or second leading anything isn't that big of a deal on a team full of role players.

Question.  Why are you guys arguing about if Samuels would've made the difference or not?

It's important to determine whether or not his career will be unduly immortalized because of this.  Like when artist dies young, for example.

[Kat Kid]

Actually, I think it is more naive to think that there's a decent chance that Samuels would have made a difference today than not.  Syracuse was just way better.  Before they started trying to run out the clock with 6:00 left, they were crushing us in the second half.  And Samuels is overall pretty replaceable.  Being the leading or second leading anything isn't that big of a deal on a team full of role players.

Oh heh.  I get it.

I'm going to go back to #teamfrank, but feel free to stay over there on the sidelines with #teamirreverent.

[0.42]

Actually, I think it is more naive to think that there's a decent chance that Samuels would have made a difference today than not.  Syracuse was just way better.  Before they started trying to run out the clock with 6:00 left, they were crushing us in the second half.  And Samuels is overall pretty replaceable.  Being the leading or second leading anything isn't that big of a deal on a team full of role players.

Question.  Why are you guys arguing about if Samuels would've made the difference or not?

It's important to determine whether or not his career will be unduly immortalized because of this.  Like when artist dies young, for example.

Immortalized? Come on. We all know that Jamar could have Jamar'd as well as possibly made a difference. Nobody with a brain on here is suddenly going to elevate JamSam into some sort of pantheon. It just sucks that he and Frank got mumped over.

[Cartierfor3]

Actually, I think it is more naive to think that there's a decent chance that Samuels would have made a difference today than not.  Syracuse was just way better.  Before they started trying to run out the clock with 6:00 left, they were crushing us in the second half.  And Samuels is overall pretty replaceable.  Being the leading or second leading anything isn't that big of a deal on a team full of role players.

Question.  Why are you guys arguing about if Samuels would've made the difference or not?

It's important to determine whether or not his career will be unduly immortalized because of this.  Like when artist dies young, for example.

No its not acutally.  It's important to determine whether or not Currie even gives a crap about the basketball program. 

[Kat Kid]

Actually, I think it is more naive to think that there's a decent chance that Samuels would have made a difference today than not.  Syracuse was just way better.  Before they started trying to run out the clock with 6:00 left, they were crushing us in the second half.  And Samuels is overall pretty replaceable.  Being the leading or second leading anything isn't that big of a deal on a team full of role players.

Question.  Why are you guys arguing about if Samuels would've made the difference or not?

It's important to determine whether or not his career will be unduly immortalized because of this.  Like when artist dies young, for example.

I know you're trolling, but just for the uninformed....

legacy/career judgements being made:

1) John Currie
2) Frank Martin

I hope to influence both of them.  Jamar will always be loved, but no more or less because of this.

[chemhawk]

#TEAMFRANK

[LHarKSUCat]

Austin Meek ? @austin_meek
Jamar Samuels suspension believed to be related to financial benefit from Curtis Malone, founder of the DC Assault AAU organization.

[0.42]

Austin Meek ? @austin_meek
Jamar Samuels suspension believed to be related to financial benefit from Curtis Malone, founder of the DC Assault AAU organization.

Someone on the phog said $200.

[Cartierfor3]

Austin Meek ? @austin_meek
Jamar Samuels suspension believed to be related to financial benefit from Curtis Malone, founder of the DC Assault AAU organization.

 

[michigancat]

oh eff me sideways

[bigDcat]

@austin_meek: Malone didn''t believe gift represented an impermissible benefit because of his pre-existing relationship with Samuels and his mother.


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[Kat Kid]

The next time I see John Currie I'm going to toss him a couple C-notes and tell him to put them toward the Jamar Samuels Snitches Get Stitches Legacy Scholarship.

[0.42]

The next time I see John Currie I'm going to toss him a couple C-notes and tell him to put them toward the Jamar Samuels Snitches Get Stitches Legacy Scholarship.

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