Angel is absolutely...

[catzacker]

Conf. games only. Don't care about what he did in December.

If you are going to do that, you'll find that Pullen's "regression" from his FR to SO year in conf only stats was similar (if not worse) in nearly every single area you are comparing. I'm not saying WIll will be Pullen, but sophmore guards with increased roles tend to have some regressions in their numbers.

Sure, I'll buy the sophomore slump. Then show me all the improvement beyond soph year guys not named Pullen have made under Frank.

It’s tough to show/give examples of development into your jr and senior years when the roster gets frank’d.  Assuming jamar makes it a few more weeks, he and Pullen the only Fr to Sr players under Martin?  (which is a bit misleading because frank is just a 5th year coach, so he’s only had 2 classes that would reach full maturity – though I don’t believe a juco player has made it 2 years or full term under frank either). 

[kso_FAN]

Conf. games only. Don't care about what he did in December.

If you are going to do that, you'll find that Pullen's "regression" from his FR to SO year in conf only stats was similar (if not worse) in nearly every single area you are comparing. I'm not saying WIll will be Pullen, but sophmore guards with increased roles tend to have some regressions in their numbers.

Sure, I'll buy the sophomore slump. Then show me all the improvement beyond soph year guys not named Pullen have made under Frank.

It’s tough to show/give examples of development into your jr and senior years when the roster gets frank’d.  Assuming jamar makes it a few more weeks, he and Pullen the only Fr to Sr players under Martin?  (which is a bit misleading because frank is just a 5th year coach, so he’s only had 2 classes that would reach full maturity – though I don’t believe a juco player has made it 2 years or full term under frank either). 

Tay is on a bad stretch right now, but he's better this year in nearly every category.

[michigancat]

Conf. games only. Don't care about what he did in December.

If you are going to do that, you'll find that Pullen's "regression" from his FR to SO year in conf only stats was similar (if not worse) in nearly every single area you are comparing. I'm not saying WIll will be Pullen, but sophmore guards with increased roles tend to have some regressions in their numbers.

Sure, I'll buy the sophomore slump. Then show me all the improvement beyond soph year guys not named Pullen have made under Frank.

It’s tough to show/give examples of development into your jr and senior years when the roster gets frank’d.  Assuming jamar makes it a few more weeks, he and Pullen the only Fr to Sr players under Martin?  (which is a bit misleading because frank is just a 5th year coach, so he’s only had 2 classes that would reach full maturity – though I don’t believe a juco player has made it 2 years or full term under frank either). 

Tay is on a bad stretch right now, but he's better this year in nearly every category.

Some may say that Rodney has improved.

[pissclams]

FRANK DOESN'T DEVELOP HIS PLAYERS!



grrr......grrr......grrr!

[kougar24]

Conf. games only. Don't care about what he did in December.

If you are going to do that, you'll find that Pullen's "regression" from his FR to SO year in conf only stats was similar (if not worse) in nearly every single area you are comparing. I'm not saying WIll will be Pullen, but sophmore guards with increased roles tend to have some regressions in their numbers.

Sure, I'll buy the sophomore slump. Then show me all the improvement beyond soph year guys not named Pullen have made under Frank.

It’s tough to show/give examples of development into your jr and senior years when the roster gets frank’d.  Assuming jamar makes it a few more weeks, he and Pullen the only Fr to Sr players under Martin?  (which is a bit misleading because frank is just a 5th year coach, so he’s only had 2 classes that would reach full maturity – though I don’t believe a juco player has made it 2 years or full term under frank either). 

Tay is on a bad stretch right now, but he's better this year in nearly every category.

I already said 'Tay has improved, but his PT is going to nil, despite the fact that he isn't really on a "bad stretch" lately.

McGruder is better in some areas, worse in others.

[michigancat]

Some may say that Rodney has improved.

Kougs is not one of these people.

[Underdog Wildcat]

And I think it goes back further than just last spring. By the time you get to spring it's too late.

Which is exactly why I originally said, it's a tough situation 3 years in the making.

And I realize he's probably the exception more than the rule, but Pierre Jackson was available last Spring.

But probably LOL at trying to out-recruit Baylor.

Disclaimer: this is not an excuse. But I think having Pullen hurt PG recruiting while he was here. It was pretty evident that he wasn't going to give up his spot.

And how many impact Juco PG's are there available in any given spring?

Probably around 2 or 3.

Sam Grooms isn't really anything special but he outplayed pretty much all of our guards in our games against OU.

[kougar24]

Some may say that Rodney has improved.

Kougs is not one of these people.

Not necessarily true. Like I said, depends on what area you're looking at.

[michigancat]

Some may say that Rodney has improved.

Kougs is not one of these people.

Not necessarily true. Like I said, depends on what area you're looking at.

DEPENDS ON WHAT AREA YOU'RE LOOKING AT!

[kso_FAN]

I already said 'Tay has improved, but his PT is going to nil, despite the fact that he isn't really on a "bad stretch" lately.

Two games. And Tay has been around Frank plenty, I'm sure he knows exactly why he isn't playing and I expect him to respond well.

And I don't know if you really believe the arguments you are trying to create or if you are just BBSing around.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Spradling has regressed, beyond just shooting. If 'Tay has gotten better, we certainly aren't cashing in on that, are we? JO? GMAFB. Maybe "Jamar is Jamar" because Frank failed to improve him.

I think McGruder is the same, just has more of a role without Pullz.

Please, tell me how Sprads has regressed in other ways. 

A% down.
TO% up.

And then of course there is his shooting, which is worse in every measurable way.

Yeah, those numbers are down, but they aren't alarming to me.

I think the biggest thing Will has adjusted with is much more responsibility defensively. He is being asked to guard much better players this year and I think fatigue is catching him. I think he can work through it and be better next year.

No doubt, the regression shooting has been more dramatic than I anticipated and is disappointing.

Listen, I'm still a Frankite through and through, but I think there is reason for concern for the next couple years.

Pullen's improvement was awesome, naturally, but I don't think you can point to anyone else and prove marked development / improvement. That is concerning to me.

But couldn't 'that be a failing of Underwood or Figger or whomever?

Colon, JO, Irving, McGruder, Kent, and Clemente all showed major improvement under Martin's staff.

[kitten_mittons]

Curtis Kelly.

[nicname]

Conf. games only. Don't care about what he did in December.

If you are going to do that, you'll find that Pullen's "regression" from his FR to SO year in conf only stats was similar (if not worse) in nearly every single area you are comparing. I'm not saying WIll will be Pullen, but sophmore guards with increased roles tend to have some regressions in their numbers.

Sure, I'll buy the sophomore slump. Then show me all the improvement beyond soph year guys not named Pullen have made under Frank.

It’s tough to show/give examples of development into your jr and senior years when the roster gets frank’d.  Assuming jamar makes it a few more weeks, he and Pullen the only Fr to Sr players under Martin?  (which is a bit misleading because frank is just a 5th year coach, so he’s only had 2 classes that would reach full maturity – though I don’t believe a juco player has made it 2 years or full term under frank either). 

Tay is on a bad stretch right now, but he's better this year in nearly every category.

I already said 'Tay has improved, but his PT is going to nil, despite the fact that he isn't really on a "bad stretch" lately.

McGruder is better in some areas, worse in others.

I wish Tay played more.  He seems to do some pretty good things whenever he is in the game.

[Pett]

Conf. games only. Don't care about what he did in December.

If you are going to do that, you'll find that Pullen's "regression" from his FR to SO year in conf only stats was similar (if not worse) in nearly every single area you are comparing. I'm not saying WIll will be Pullen, but sophmore guards with increased roles tend to have some regressions in their numbers.

Sure, I'll buy the sophomore slump. Then show me all the improvement beyond soph year guys not named Pullen have made under Frank.

It’s tough to show/give examples of development into your jr and senior years when the roster gets frank’d.  Assuming jamar makes it a few more weeks, he and Pullen the only Fr to Sr players under Martin?  (which is a bit misleading because frank is just a 5th year coach, so he’s only had 2 classes that would reach full maturity – though I don’t believe a juco player has made it 2 years or full term under frank either). 

Tay is on a bad stretch right now, but he's better this year in nearly every category.

I already said 'Tay has improved, but his PT is going to nil, despite the fact that he isn't really on a "bad stretch" lately.

McGruder is better in some areas, worse in others.

I wish Tay played more.  He seems to do some pretty good things whenever he is in the game.

Agreed, Tay's defense is always there. Frank hating Irving last night cost us the game. Eff Angel.

[nicname]

Spradling has regressed, beyond just shooting. If 'Tay has gotten better, we certainly aren't cashing in on that, are we? JO? GMAFB. Maybe "Jamar is Jamar" because Frank failed to improve him.

I think McGruder is the same, just has more of a role without Pullz.

Please, tell me how Sprads has regressed in other ways. 

A% down.
TO% up.

And then of course there is his shooting, which is worse in every measurable way.

Yeah, those numbers are down, but they aren't alarming to me.

I think the biggest thing Will has adjusted with is much more responsibility defensively. He is being asked to guard much better players this year and I think fatigue is catching him. I think he can work through it and be better next year.

No doubt, the regression shooting has been more dramatic than I anticipated and is disappointing.

Listen, I'm still a Frankite through and through, but I think there is reason for concern for the next couple years.

Pullen's improvement was awesome, naturally, but I don't think you can point to anyone else and prove marked development / improvement. That is concerning to me.

But couldn't 'that be a failing of Underwood or Figger or whomever?

Colon, JO, Irving, McGruder, Kent, and Clemente all showed major improvement under Martin's staff.

Great post. Esp pulling Colon and Kent out like that.  How easily some forget how bad Luis was as a freshman, not to mention DK.

[kougar24]

I already said 'Tay has improved, but his PT is going to nil, despite the fact that he isn't really on a "bad stretch" lately.

Two games. And Tay has been around Frank plenty, I'm sure he knows exactly why he isn't playing and I expect him to respond well.

And I don't know if you really believe the arguments you are trying to create or if you are just BBSing around.

Four.

[kso_FAN]

I already said 'Tay has improved, but his PT is going to nil, despite the fact that he isn't really on a "bad stretch" lately.

Two games. And Tay has been around Frank plenty, I'm sure he knows exactly why he isn't playing and I expect him to respond well.

And I don't know if you really believe the arguments you are trying to create or if you are just BBSing around.

Four.

aTm and Tech had drops in PT, but not as dramatic as UT and KU.

[kougar24]

I already said 'Tay has improved, but his PT is going to nil, despite the fact that he isn't really on a "bad stretch" lately.

Two games. And Tay has been around Frank plenty, I'm sure he knows exactly why he isn't playing and I expect him to respond well.

And I don't know if you really believe the arguments you are trying to create or if you are just BBSing around.

Four.

aTm and Tech had drops in PT, but not as dramatic as UT and KU.

It was the beginning of the downward trend.

[kougar24]

In conference play...

Highest eFG% among guards:
Martavious Irving

Highest 3PT%:
Martavious Irving

[michigancat]

In conference play...

Highest eFG% among guards:
Martavious Irving

Highest 3PT%:
Martavious Irving

Sit McGruder, play Tay!

[kougar24]

In conference play...

Highest eFG% among guards:
Martavious Irving

Highest 3PT%:
Martavious Irving

Sit McGruder, play Tay!

Don't be respected. Southwell and Spradling have plenty to give.

[michigancat]

In conference play...

Highest eFG% among guards:
Martavious Irving

Highest 3PT%:
Martavious Irving

Sit McGruder, play Tay!

Don't be respected. Southwell and Spradling have plenty to give.

Do they?

[kougar24]

In conference play...

Highest eFG% among guards:
Martavious Irving

Highest 3PT%:
Martavious Irving

Sit McGruder, play Tay!

Don't be respected. Southwell and Spradling have plenty to give.

Do they?

They do.

[kso_FAN]

In conference play...

Highest eFG% among guards:
Martavious Irving

Highest 3PT%:
Martavious Irving

Sit McGruder, play Tay!

Don't be respected. Southwell and Spradling have plenty to give.

Do they?

They do.

Will will play 30 minutes minimum every game, you know this. But yeah on Southy (at least the last few games).

[Cire]

Sw is dom without the defense, fouls, and rebounding.