Angel is absolutely...

[DQ12]

Angel played terribly tonight.  Growing pains.

[Pendergast]

Tyshawn Taylor started 33 games his freshman year.  Technically fat Sherron was the point guard.  Could you imagine how good Angel would be this year if he got to play next to Sherron instead of Will?

Why all the hate for Will?

[catzacker]

Rusty, you have to be rough ridin' stupid to think it was just below average.  It was rough ridin' awful.  Decision making has nothing to do with who you are playimg with.  Making a post entry bounce pass through 3 defenders is rough ridin' atupid no matter if it's going to jamar or beasley.  JFC if you idiots can't even admit angel was dogshit tonight.

[8manpick]

Angel played terribly tonight.  Growing pains.

[MakeItRain]

Why aren't people asking about Tay playing Will's minutes, did I miss something about his game?

Will kept the team in the game from what I saw.  That's why, mostly.

You're getting mesmerized by two good plays.  Guard play offensively was awful, Will doesn't get exempted, he was 4-13 for gods sake.

[michigancat]

Rusty, you have to be rough ridin' stupid to think it was just below average.  It was rough ridin' awful.  Decision making has nothing to do with who you are playimg with.  Making a post entry bounce pass through 3 defenders is rough ridin' atupid no matter if it's going to jamar or beasley.  JFC if you idiots can't even admit angel was dogshit tonight.

call it dogshit or awful or whatever you want, but I still say it's better than any alternative. (his five assists and good defense kept it from being the worst game ever). And I know it may be hard to believe but a player like Beasley can make your passes look a lot better than a player like JO. I know part of decision making is knowing your teammates, but still. (and I still acknowledge Pullen was better)

[MakeItRain]

His defense was not good.  Neither was his offense.  He sucked tonight and the angeltards who can't admit that are rough ridin' idiots.  He sucked.  He wasn't the only one, but he was the worst at a position we can't afford to be awful at.  Just because he rolled on the floor with NMT doesn't mean he is going to be a good point guard.  His decision making when he isn't driving the lane is entirely worse than pullen when he was a freshman.

The team defensive effort was the best of the season.  Not sure how you can contend that a key cog of that performance was bad.  I can guarantee this will be KUs worst eFG game of the season.

[Pendergast]

Why aren't people asking about Tay playing Will's minutes, did I miss something about his game?

Will kept the team in the game from what I saw.  That's why, mostly.

You're getting mesmerized by two good plays.  Guard play offensively was awful, Will doesn't get exempted, he was 4-13 for gods sake.

4 assists and no turnovers.  Only steady play tonight.  Low percentage, but he was 0-5 from 3.  So 50% on his shots inside the arc.  He was the best guard, non-exempt or whatever.

[bigwillie20]

Tyshawn Taylor started 33 games his freshman year.  Technically fat Sherron was the point guard.  Could you imagine how good Angel would be this year if he got to play next to Sherron instead of Will?

Why all the hate for Will?

He wasn't great by any means but I loved the swag and big nutsack he came out with at the start of the 2nd half.  It's amazing what these guys could do if they played with that confidence 40 minutes a night, that's what makes this team so frustrating

[MakeItRain]

Tyshawn Taylor started 33 games his freshman year.  Technically fat Sherron was the point guard.  Could you imagine how good Angel would be this year if he got to play next to Sherron instead of Will?

Why all the hate for Will?

I hate Will because I think Angel would play better besides the college version of Sherron?

[michigancat]

His defense was not good.  Neither was his offense.  He sucked tonight and the angeltards who can't admit that are rough ridin' idiots.  He sucked.  He wasn't the only one, but he was the worst at a position we can't afford to be awful at.  Just because he rolled on the floor with NMT doesn't mean he is going to be a good point guard.  His decision making when he isn't driving the lane is entirely worse than pullen when he was a freshman.

The team defensive effort was the best of the season.  Not sure how you can contend that a key cog of that performance was bad.  I can guarantee this will be KUs worst eFG game of the season.

Kentucky held them to 37.3% EFG.

We were second best at 43.4%.

[Pendergast]

Tyshawn Taylor started 33 games his freshman year.  Technically fat Sherron was the point guard.  Could you imagine how good Angel would be this year if he got to play next to Sherron instead of Will?

Why all the hate for Will?

I hate Will because I think Angel would play better besides the college version of Sherron?

Come on, you've gotten in a shot several times in the past few hours.  You really want to play this game?

[gatoveintisiete]

We have nobody better than Angel, so I like that he go baptized by fire.  I wish Frank would do this with other guys too, guys that could really be something.  Would love to see JO, Shane, Diaz, Russell, Jamar, Fred, Wally, Jones, Dpete, Sutton etc. be able to play through their mistakes and develop more confident offensive threats

[MakeItRain]

Why aren't people asking about Tay playing Will's minutes, did I miss something about his game?

Will kept the team in the game from what I saw.  That's why, mostly.

You're getting mesmerized by two good plays.  Guard play offensively was awful, Will doesn't get exempted, he was 4-13 for gods sake.

4 assists and no turnovers.  Only steady play tonight.  Low percentage, but he was 0-5 from 3.  So 50% on his shots inside the arc.  He was the best guard, non-exempt or whatever.

I refuse to give him a pass for his shooting percentage tonight and his continued lack of aggression.  Of those 4 assists 2 of them were passes to a wide open Jamar at the top of the key.  I will give him credit for being more aggressive late, but once again he was completely missing for a half+.

[kso_FAN]

Its pretty clear Frank thinks our best line-up is Angel, Will, Rod. He's been trying to go that way since the OU game in Norman, and only Angel's foul problems have kept him off the floor.

Tay and Southy get to fight for the scrap minutes between pretty much those three spots right now. Jones would likely be in the mix if he wasn't injured.

I have come to agree that this is the best possible line up to win games, not only for the future, but for this year. Teams have to defend us different with Angel in the game simply because he is a threat to penetrate. We have a hard enough time scoring anyway and its clear that any line-up with Will at PG and Tay/Southy/whoever at the 2 just makes it really hard to score, especially against a team as strong defensively as KU. Our only chance to win tonight was a good game (he didn't even have to be great) from Angel and we didn't get that. I do not think a Will at PG and Tay at 2G combo for 30 minutes would've been any better and would've likely been worse. JMHO.

Will had his fair share of struggles guarding Taylor, but it was when he was on the bench that Taylor hit both of his threes and helped KU go on their run that ultimately won them the game.

[Pendergast]

Why aren't people asking about Tay playing Will's minutes, did I miss something about his game?

Will kept the team in the game from what I saw.  That's why, mostly.

You're getting mesmerized by two good plays.  Guard play offensively was awful, Will doesn't get exempted, he was 4-13 for gods sake.

4 assists and no turnovers.  Only steady play tonight.  Low percentage, but he was 0-5 from 3.  So 50% on his shots inside the arc.  He was the best guard, non-exempt or whatever.

I refuse to give him a pass for his shooting percentage tonight and his continued lack of aggression.  Of those 4 assists 2 of them were passes to a wide open Jamar at the top of the key.  I will give him credit for being more aggressive late, but once again he was completely missing for a half+.

Fair enough.

[MakeItRain]

Tyshawn Taylor started 33 games his freshman year.  Technically fat Sherron was the point guard.  Could you imagine how good Angel would be this year if he got to play next to Sherron instead of Will?

Why all the hate for Will?

I hate Will because I think Angel would play better besides the college version of Sherron?

Come on, you've gotten in a shot several times in the past few hours.  You really want to play this game?

Yeah, I want to play this game whatever the hell that means.  Will had a bad night offensively, that really can't be argued.  I have less of a problem with Will and more of a problem with the role he is forced to play with this team, a role he clearly is not comfortable with.  He sucked tonight, doesn't mean I don't like the guy.

[SkinnyBenny]

We have a hard enough time scoring anyway and its clear that any line-up with Will at PG and Tay/Southy/whoever at the 2 just makes it really hard to score, especially against a team as strong defensively as KU. Our only chance to win tonight was a good game (he didn't even have to be great) from Angel and we didn't get that. I do not think a Will at PG and Tay at 2G combo for 30 minutes would've been any better and would've likely been worse. JMHO.

Ordinarily I would be inclined to agree with this if not for the fact that we only had 18 rough ridin' points in the first half. At home.

[Pendergast]

Tyshawn Taylor started 33 games his freshman year.  Technically fat Sherron was the point guard.  Could you imagine how good Angel would be this year if he got to play next to Sherron instead of Will?

Why all the hate for Will?

I hate Will because I think Angel would play better besides the college version of Sherron?

Come on, you've gotten in a shot several times in the past few hours.  You really want to play this game?

Yeah, I want to play this game whatever the hell that means.  Will had a bad night offensively, that really can't be argued.  I have less of a problem with Will and more of a problem with the role he is forced to play with this team, a role he clearly is not comfortable with.  He sucked tonight, doesn't mean I don't like the guy.  Get a grip and stop sounding so tuckish.

Your tantrums are tiresome.  Belaboring your point until no one cares to respond is the mark of immaturity that you seem to pride yourself on.  Get over yourself.

[MakeItRain]

Its pretty clear Frank thinks our best line-up is Angel, Will, Rod. He's been trying to go that way since the OU game in Norman, and only Angel's foul problems have kept him off the floor.

Tay and Southy get to fight for the scrap minutes between pretty much those three spots right now. Jones would likely be in the mix if he wasn't injured.

I have come to agree that this is the best possible line up to win games, not only for the future, but for this year. Teams have to defend us different with Angel in the game simply because he is a threat to penetrate. We have a hard enough time scoring anyway and its clear that any line-up with Will at PG and Tay/Southy/whoever at the 2 just makes it really hard to score, especially against a team as strong defensively as KU. Our only chance to win tonight was a good game (he didn't even have to be great) from Angel and we didn't get that. I do not think a Will at PG and Tay at 2G combo for 30 minutes would've been any better and would've likely been worse. JMHO.

Will had his fair share of struggles guarding Taylor, but it was when he was on the bench that Taylor hit both of his threes and helped KU go on their run that ultimately won them the game.

Angel did nothing wrong on either of the threes.  Rodney should have forced the pass and hoped there was a closeout on time.

[Andy]

JO was pretty good tonight, would have been even better if the guards would have dumped to him for more DOBS

Or if frank wouldn't pull him and not put him back in for forever.

[michigancat]

We have a hard enough time scoring anyway and its clear that any line-up with Will at PG and Tay/Southy/whoever at the 2 just makes it really hard to score, especially against a team as strong defensively as KU. Our only chance to win tonight was a good game (he didn't even have to be great) from Angel and we didn't get that. I do not think a Will at PG and Tay at 2G combo for 30 minutes would've been any better and would've likely been worse. JMHO.

Ordinarily I would be inclined to agree with this if not for the fact that we only had 18 rough ridin' points in the first half. At home.

Angel only played 9 minutes in the first half. (he played 18 in the second half)

[MakeItRain]

Tyshawn Taylor started 33 games his freshman year.  Technically fat Sherron was the point guard.  Could you imagine how good Angel would be this year if he got to play next to Sherron instead of Will?

Why all the hate for Will?

I hate Will because I think Angel would play better besides the college version of Sherron?

Come on, you've gotten in a shot several times in the past few hours.  You really want to play this game?

Yeah, I want to play this game whatever the hell that means.  Will had a bad night offensively, that really can't be argued.  I have less of a problem with Will and more of a problem with the role he is forced to play with this team, a role he clearly is not comfortable with.  He sucked tonight, doesn't mean I don't like the guy.  Get a grip and stop sounding so tuckish.

Your tantrums are tiresome.  Belaboring your point until no one cares to respond is the mark of immaturity that you seem to pride yourself on.  Get over yourself.

You replied to the other post while I was typing, I edited that one while you were typing this one.

[SkinnyBenny]

We have a hard enough time scoring anyway and its clear that any line-up with Will at PG and Tay/Southy/whoever at the 2 just makes it really hard to score, especially against a team as strong defensively as KU. Our only chance to win tonight was a good game (he didn't even have to be great) from Angel and we didn't get that. I do not think a Will at PG and Tay at 2G combo for 30 minutes would've been any better and would've likely been worse. JMHO.

Ordinarily I would be inclined to agree with this if not for the fact that we only had 18 rough ridin' points in the first half. At home.

Angel only played 9 minutes in the first half. (he played 18 in the second half)

And he was rough ridin' awful in those nine minutes. Awful.

[kso_FAN]

We have a hard enough time scoring anyway and its clear that any line-up with Will at PG and Tay/Southy/whoever at the 2 just makes it really hard to score, especially against a team as strong defensively as KU. Our only chance to win tonight was a good game (he didn't even have to be great) from Angel and we didn't get that. I do not think a Will at PG and Tay at 2G combo for 30 minutes would've been any better and would've likely been worse. JMHO.

Ordinarily I would be inclined to agree with this if not for the fact that we only had 18 rough ridin' points in the first half. At home.

Angel's first half TOs didn't help, and KU made it hard to score, but we just missed a lot of shots. McGruds, Will, Angel all had some good looks and didn't make them. You don't shoot under 25% without missing some good shots too. That said, we (Angel) had way too many TOs in the first half. I still don't think a Will/Tay combo makes it any better.