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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #100 on: February 11, 2012, 08:48:40 PM »
Tech's up 16 vs OU w/ about 3 to go.   Prolly blame both of our losses against OU on the officials too.

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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #101 on: February 11, 2012, 08:53:06 PM »
you have to be a complete moron to think this is anything like a Jim Wooldridge season.

Right.  Instead of finishing 6-10, we'll finish 8-10, and there will be numerous close losses.  

Totally different.

we can't expect our program to go to the NCAA every year, Wabash.  That's f'ing crazy talk.  Just be happy that it's better than Wooly, Asbury, and Dana.  The floor is always the standard.
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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #102 on: February 11, 2012, 09:16:10 PM »
9-9 is not a lock at all.  like, at all.

That's why he said + a win in the conference tourney too dumbass.

sans a championship game run, you're either in or out prior to the conf tournament, dumbass.

we're making the tourney.  dumbass.

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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #103 on: February 11, 2012, 09:45:58 PM »
9-9 is not a lock at all.  like, at all.

That's why he said + a win in the conference tourney too dumbass.

sans a championship game run, you're either in or out prior to the conf tournament, dumbass.

we're making the tourney.  dumbass.

no we aren't.  If we make the NCAA Tournament, I won't post for a month.


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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #104 on: February 11, 2012, 09:50:24 PM »
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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #105 on: February 11, 2012, 09:51:43 PM »
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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #106 on: February 11, 2012, 10:14:27 PM »
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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #107 on: February 11, 2012, 10:32:20 PM »
9-9 is not a lock at all.  like, at all.

That's why he said + a win in the conference tourney too dumbass.

sans a championship game run, you're either in or out prior to the conf tournament, dumbass.

we're making the tourney.  dumbass.

no we aren't.  If we make the NCAA Tournament, I won't post for a month.



You mean you won't post for that all important college sports month of April.  Quite the sacrifice zacker, you're goEMAW's Ghandi.

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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #108 on: February 11, 2012, 11:09:21 PM »
9-9 is not a lock at all.  like, at all.

That's why he said + a win in the conference tourney too dumbass.

sans a championship game run, you're either in or out prior to the conf tournament, dumbass.

we're making the tourney.  dumbass.

no we aren't.  If we make the NCAA Tournament, I won't post for a month.


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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #109 on: February 12, 2012, 12:01:14 AM »
you have to be a complete moron to think this is anything like a Jim Wooldridge season.

Right.  Instead of finishing 6-10, we'll finish 8-10, and there will be numerous close losses.  

Totally different.

we can't expect our program to go to the NCAA every year, Wabash.  That's f'ing crazy talk.  Just be happy that it's better than Wooly, Asbury, and Dana.  The floor is always the standard.

We should be one of the 3 programs in the country that not only make the tournament every year, but not only that but never be on the bubble.  If you're on the bubble that means you're absolutely not going to make it.  Pretty fair expectation IMO.


we're going to the NIT this year.  That's 2 in 5.  1 in 8 years? okay.  2 in 5, not okay.
 

And going to the NIT this year was completely avoidable if frank wasn't an average recruiter and awful at roster management.  this team lacks leadership, leadership that could have come if Frank could have figured out a way to be anything more than a brick wall.

it would be hard to do, but i would love to have a list of schools that have been to the tournament at least 7 times in the last 8 years. i mean how many? fifteen? so if your program is not top fifteen then it's not okay? not defending frank or the program, just trying to find your line for what is acceptable.

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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #110 on: February 12, 2012, 01:43:43 AM »
Kansas
Texas
Kentucky
UNC
Louisville
Duke
Syracuse
Villanova
Arizona
Michigan State
Pitt
Xavier
Wisconsin

That's 13 schools and two of them, Arizona & Villanova will be coming off of this list at the conclusion of this season.  Notice that Jim Calhoun and his 3 titles at UCONN and Billy Donovan and his 2 titles at Florida aren't on this list.  Their fans should expect more.





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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #111 on: February 12, 2012, 02:00:27 AM »
So I re-read the posts in this thread, especially between you and I MIR, and I've come to the conclusion that we were arguing for the sake of arguing.  Or basically, you were insinuating that I meant things that I never said.  26-0 is pretty bad, we'll find out how bad tomorrow after I rewatch the second half.  All I was saying was that we get called for a lot of fouls because we foul more than most teams do.  I think everyone would agree with that.  When we play well we also force other teams to foul us (especially on shots) more than they usually do.  Actually, when we play really well we make tons of jumpers as well.  Well, we hacked and fouled a shitload and didn't make UT foul us.  This is the case at least from what I saw in the first half.

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19:25 – Angel gets away with a shove off
18:59 – Same possession Jamar gets away with throwning his man to the floor
18:50 – Same possession Wangamane tackles Jamar, no foul ball out of bounds to KSU
18:47 – Same possession Gip throws Chapman to the floor, no foul called.  Possession ends in missed 3 from Angel (it was a good look)
18:32 – Kabongo beats Angel, might have been fouled on way to hoop, no call, scores anyway. I think this was just acting by Kabongo.  Nice no-call.
18:20 – Gip may have been bumped down low by Champan (replay shows that there was no foul by Chapman, another good no call.
18:18 – Same possession Jamar and Wangamane get called for an LOL double-foul. This occurs while trying to rebound Gips miss.  (score 4-0 UT at this point.)
17:53 – Jamar gets away with shove of (he’s been doing this constantly) while getting a pick up top.  Jamar goes low to receive the pass on opposite block. Chapman hacks on the shot by Jamar.  Foul called Jamar to shoot two.
17:49 – Kabongo charges into Will near midcourt.  Charge called, good call, crowd boos.
17:27 – Wangamene loses Gip and gets a pass down low for an easy dunk.  He traveled on the dunk attempt but not call. Pretty obvious travel.
17:07 – Holmes gets away with an illegal screen. Kabongo gets freed for a drive to the hoop.  Gip makes a pussy reach in foul on the shot.  Kabongo makes it for an and one. Foul should have been called on the screen. Gip made matters worse by not playing defense. He barely touched him but made the arm motion going down that is going to get called every time. 
16:28 – Kabongo gets by Will and drives to the hoop Gip and someone JO help on the drive down low. Gip makes a clear blocking foul on Kabongo on the shot. Foul called. Shot goes in.
16:18 – Jaylen bond gets called for an off the ball foul battling for position.  Jamar is very good at getting guys to foul him in these situations. It wasn’t a blatant foul but easily callable and you can tell the refs have been trying to clean up the game from the tip. 
16:10 – Same possession, after a Spardling save JO ends up with the ball near the hoop, bond gets called for a foul on the shot.  I believe he made contact with JO’s lower body, or reached hard to tell.  Crowd boos (2nd booing btw), replay looks less like a foul than live shot, but still easily callable and refs have been tight all game.
15:56 – I was about to say that Jamar got away with a hack down low, but refs blew a late whistle and called the foul on the floor.

Under 16 TO (15:56) – KSU 9 possible fouls, 4 called. UT 7 possible fouls, 6 called.  Refs blew traveling call on Wangamane.  Score 11-9 UT.

15:46 or so (clock is malfunctioning on espn3) JO gets away with a trip/ illegal screen. Then Rodney is falls on dude who got tripped. Good no call on the second one. 
15:20 – Lewis? gets away with possible reach as Diaz drives with shot clock running out.  Diaz makes hoop.
15:01 – Good clean block by Southwell.
14:51 - clean clock by Chapman on Diaz.
14:36 - another clean block by Chapman on diaz.
14:34 - Diaz has position on Holmes for rebound and Holmes shoves him in the back.  Foul called.
14:17  - Shane DOBs Chapman. Very nice
13:20 – JO fouls Brown to prevent a layup.  Good hard foul by JO.
13:12 – Chapman goes for block on shot by Diaz. Clear foul. Foul called.
13:05 – Irving gets called for a bump near midcourt on Brown.  Brown flails to get the whistle.  Bad call IMO.  Frank sits Tay. ?SMH
11:54 – McClellan flails to get a foul called on McGruder on a lay up attempt. Good no call.

Under 12 TO (11:54) KSU 2 probable fouls IMO 2 called except that Tay got jobbed on his foul and JO got away with one.  UT 3  possible fouls, 2 called.  Score KSU 16-15

10:32 – KSU dicks around and runs shot clock down to nothing. Angel drives and gets stuffed. Good no cal. UT blocks the follow. Another good no call.
10:07 – Diaz slaps Kabongo in the face as Kabongo drives past for a layup.  No call
9:51 – Same Possession, Brown drives and a foul is called on Diaz on the shot.  Looked like Diaz had a hand on Brown’s back but from this angle I can’t tell if he really fouled him. 
9:51 – On KSU in bound Kabongo grabs Angel. Foul called. Good call. Crowd boos (3 memorable boos so far)
9:40 – Shane fouls McClellan to prevent an alley-oop.  Good call. Good foul.
9:32 – Angel gets away with another shove off.
9:10 - Same possession, Angel forced to drive again with shot clock running down.  Wangamene draws the charge on Angel.  Good call. 
8:35 – McClellan gets called for blocking off the ball against Will.  Good off the ball whistle.
8:00 – Gipson gets called for a reach.  I don’t think he really reached like to steal the ball, but he had his hands in as Wangamene cleared and made sure contact with his harms.  Easy Call.
7:37 – Good block by Wangamene on Spradling drive.  No call. I watched this three times looking for a foul.
7:34 – Angel called for a foul blocking on a run out lay up by UT.  I thought the block was clean. Watched it 3 times.  Bad call.
7:00 – Bond gets called for foul on McGruder FT line pull-up J.  Ticky tack foul but refs have been calling it tight.  Bond should know better.
5:35 – Fran thinks that Diaz gets away with Offensive Interferene on alley opp attempt from McGruder.  I don’t know the rule here.  But whatevs. IT looked to me like if he would have caught the ball no one would have noticed anyway.
4:47 – Will gets called for blocking on a Julian Lewis drive.  Will clearly got him with the body on the shot. Good call.
4:22 – Looked like Wangemene got away with a bit of a reach while trapping Will on the wing. No Call
4:20 – Same possession, Diaz gets away with a foul on rebound attempt.
4:14 – JO shoves Wangamene into the goalpost padding. No call.
3:24 – JO fouls Wangamene on Wangamene putback attempt.  Easy call.
1:36 – Jamar pushes McClellan in the back even though another EMAW had position on McClellan for the rebound.  Good call.  Jamar agrees.
:03 – Good block by KSU as Brown drives into the post. 

Stanza – KSU 10 possible fouls, 7 called.  One of the called fouls was BS on the Angel block.
UT – 4 possible fouls, 3 called. 

First half – KSU 21 possible fouls, 13 called (official stats have KSU at 14 so I must have missed one somewhere. KSU also got jobbed on the travel and IMO the Irving and Angel fouls.   UT – 14 possible fouls, 11 called.  Fran thinks UT got jobbed on Diaz alley oop, meh. 

Obviously the second half is what people are pissed about, but this takes a long time and I’m tired (it’s 1:35 AM).  Interesting in this half is that KSU actually got the good lead in the cleanest portion of the game. Not surprisingly it occurred when Rodney and Will were draining threes.  Funny how making shots helps the team a lot. I really couldn’t pay attention to offense/ defense execution much as I was basically just scanning the court for what IMO looked like fouls.  Gip and Tay were the only ones (I might have forgotten someone) who got called for fouls out on the perimeter for KSU.

Second half will come sometime tomorrow.  I may be proven wrong, UT may have gotten away with rape in the 2nd half.  We’ll see.












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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #112 on: February 12, 2012, 02:03:11 AM »
Kansas
Texas
Kentucky
UNC
Louisville
Duke
Syracuse
Villanova
Arizona
Michigan State
Pitt
Xavier
Wisconsin

That's 13 schools and two of them, Arizona & Villanova will be coming off of this list at the conclusion of this season.  Notice that Jim Calhoun and his 3 titles at UCONN and Billy Donovan and his 2 titles at Florida aren't on this list.  Their fans should expect more.






yeah. again, not a defense of frank or his program or this year, but that 7/8 suggestion was beyond dumb. kstate came off of like one in the last fifteen appearances or something and then the new coach is supposed to be ku or kentucky or duke or something and go 7/8 or it's not ok. jesus.

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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #113 on: February 12, 2012, 02:09:13 AM »
Kansas
Texas
Kentucky
UNC
Louisville
Duke
Syracuse
Villanova
Arizona
Michigan State
Pitt
Xavier
Wisconsin

That's 13 schools and two of them, Arizona & Villanova will be coming off of this list at the conclusion of this season.  Notice that Jim Calhoun and his 3 titles at UCONN and Billy Donovan and his 2 titles at Florida aren't on this list.  Their fans should expect more.






yeah. again, not a defense of frank or his program or this year, but that 7/8 suggestion was beyond dumb. kstate came off of like one in the last fifteen appearances or something and then the new coach is supposed to be ku or kentucky or duke or something and go 7/8 or it's not ok. jesus.

yeah, really weird criteria. I think it's just zack trying too hard to be zack. Still, I really don't want him to stop posting if we go to the tournament (or if we don't).

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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #114 on: February 12, 2012, 08:27:50 AM »

You mean you won't post for that all important college sports month of April.  Quite the sacrifice zacker, you're goEMAW's Ghandi.

first, it will be part of march and april.  second, for most of college sports this isn't important, but for ksu basketball fans, this is prime frank'ing time.   this is where we find out or the rumors start flying about which player frank will run off so he can replace said player with someone of equal or lesser value and also younger. 


Kansas
Texas
Kentucky
UNC
Louisville
Duke
Syracuse
Villanova
Arizona
Michigan State
Pitt
Xavier
Wisconsin

That's 13 schools and two of them, Arizona & Villanova will be coming off of this list at the conclusion of this season.  Notice that Jim Calhoun and his 3 titles at UCONN and Billy Donovan and his 2 titles at Florida aren't on this list.  Their fans should expect more.

I think it's reasonable for Florida and UConn fans to expect 1 NIT in 8 seasons, regardless of how many championships they've won.  Expecting to be like Louisville is a stretch? Like Xavier?   I mean, we shouldn't be afraid of having expectations.   They aren't bad things.  If our whole point is just to be mediocre, then f*ck it.  quit playing.

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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #115 on: February 12, 2012, 08:37:15 AM »
Kansas
Texas
Kentucky
UNC
Louisville
Duke
Syracuse
Villanova
Arizona
Michigan State
Pitt
Xavier
Wisconsin

That's 13 schools and two of them, Arizona & Villanova will be coming off of this list at the conclusion of this season.  Notice that Jim Calhoun and his 3 titles at UCONN and Billy Donovan and his 2 titles at Florida aren't on this list.  Their fans should expect more.

I think it's reasonable for Florida and UConn fans to expect 1 NIT in 8 seasons, regardless of how many championships they've won.  Expecting to be like Louisville is a stretch? Like Xavier?   I mean, we shouldn't be afraid of having expectations.   They aren't bad things.  If our whole point is just to be mediocre, then f*ck it.  quit playing.

I suppose there is some place for expectations in the middle IMHO. This year is frustrating and making the NIT is disappointing, no question about that. It just doesn't make for a great season. But unless NITs happen 2-3 years in a row, I'm not going to get disappointed enough to want a coach fired, not even close. I think even in today's college baskeball being one of the top 50 schools every year is still tough for a school like K-State, and the line between being number 30 and number 60 is a pretty fine one, and I think this year has shown that. There just isn't a big difference between those teams. But if you continually finish outside the top 50-60 (like Doc's Nebraska teams) then you have a situation where a change probably needs to happen IMHO, but we aren't even close to being there yet. Granted, I probably took the discussion from expectations and bridged to when you want to make a coaching change, but I think the two topics are always related.

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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #116 on: February 12, 2012, 08:45:19 AM »
I think what happened was DeLoss met the refs in the refs tunnel at halftime and reminded them they were in Texas.

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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #117 on: February 12, 2012, 08:49:09 AM »
I suppose there is some place for expectations in the middle IMHO. This year is frustrating and making the NIT is disappointing, no question about that. It just doesn't make for a great season. But unless NITs happen 2-3 years in a row, I'm not going to get disappointed enough to want a coach fired, not even close. I think even in today's college baskeball being one of the top 50 schools every year is still tough for a school like K-State, and the line between being number 30 and number 60 is a pretty fine one, and I think this year has shown that. There just isn't a big difference between those teams. But if you continually finish outside the top 50-60 (like Doc's Nebraska teams) then you have a situation where a change probably needs to happen IMHO, but we aren't even close to being there yet. Granted, I probably took the discussion from expectations and bridged to when you want to make a coaching change, but I think the two topics are always related.

the year is frustrating because it was entirely, 100% avoidable.  The idea that this had to be a rebuilding year is absurd.  It didn't have to be; frank's decision(s) made it so.  That is pretty much the core of my anger/disappointment.  Much like '04/05 football didn't happen overnight, this started in '08 for Frank and each subsequent recruiting class.  Also, I'm of the belief that you know what you have in a coach by now.  So, this is frank.  This is K-State.  This is what we'll be.  We've known we were going to make the tournament 2 times in 5 years.  Known.  Not worried at selection time. 

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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #118 on: February 12, 2012, 08:50:37 AM »
The problem I see is that due to the shitty recruiting and roster turnover, there is a high probability that that this could be a downward trend if it's not corrected.

That's what I am concerned with.  It's not about missing out on the NCAA's one season.  It's about projecting the next five.

A school like Syracuse, UCONN or Louisville or any of the elites mentioned will go to an NIT every once in a while and then infuse the program with top echelon recruiting to reset the course of the program.  That's what I'm not seeing right now.

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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #119 on: February 12, 2012, 09:14:12 AM »
The problem I see is that due to the shitty recruiting and roster turnover, there is a high probability that that this could be a downward trend if it's not corrected.

That's what I am concerned with.  It's not about missing out on the NCAA's one season.  It's about projecting the next five.

A school like Syracuse, UCONN or Louisville or any of the elites mentioned will go to an NIT every once in a while and then infuse the program with top echelon recruiting to reset the course of the program.  That's what I'm not seeing right now.

Perhaps, but I think we've got a FR-SO base that can win if Frank keeps them all around. Of course, that is a big question.

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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #120 on: February 12, 2012, 09:46:10 AM »
due to the shitty recruiting


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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #121 on: February 12, 2012, 10:08:58 AM »
So I re-read the posts in this thread, especially between you and I MIR, and I've come to the conclusion that we were arguing for the sake of arguing.  Or basically, you were insinuating that I meant things that I never said.  26-0 is pretty bad, we'll find out how bad tomorrow after I rewatch the second half.  All I was saying was that we get called for a lot of fouls because we foul more than most teams do.  I think everyone would agree with that.  When we play well we also force other teams to foul us (especially on shots) more than they usually do.  Actually, when we play really well we make tons of jumpers as well.  Well, we hacked and fouled a shitload and didn't make UT foul us.  This is the case at least from what I saw in the first half.

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19:25 – Angel gets away with a shove off
18:59 – Same possession Jamar gets away with throwning his man to the floor
18:50 – Same possession Wangamane tackles Jamar, no foul ball out of bounds to KSU
18:47 – Same possession Gip throws Chapman to the floor, no foul called.  Possession ends in missed 3 from Angel (it was a good look)
18:32 – Kabongo beats Angel, might have been fouled on way to hoop, no call, scores anyway. I think this was just acting by Kabongo.  Nice no-call.
18:20 – Gip may have been bumped down low by Champan (replay shows that there was no foul by Chapman, another good no call.
18:18 – Same possession Jamar and Wangamane get called for an LOL double-foul. This occurs while trying to rebound Gips miss.  (score 4-0 UT at this point.)
17:53 – Jamar gets away with shove of (he’s been doing this constantly) while getting a pick up top.  Jamar goes low to receive the pass on opposite block. Chapman hacks on the shot by Jamar.  Foul called Jamar to shoot two.
17:49 – Kabongo charges into Will near midcourt.  Charge called, good call, crowd boos.
17:27 – Wangamene loses Gip and gets a pass down low for an easy dunk.  He traveled on the dunk attempt but not call. Pretty obvious travel.
17:07 – Holmes gets away with an illegal screen. Kabongo gets freed for a drive to the hoop.  Gip makes a pussy reach in foul on the shot.  Kabongo makes it for an and one. Foul should have been called on the screen. Gip made matters worse by not playing defense. He barely touched him but made the arm motion going down that is going to get called every time. 
16:28 – Kabongo gets by Will and drives to the hoop Gip and someone JO help on the drive down low. Gip makes a clear blocking foul on Kabongo on the shot. Foul called. Shot goes in.
16:18 – Jaylen bond gets called for an off the ball foul battling for position.  Jamar is very good at getting guys to foul him in these situations. It wasn’t a blatant foul but easily callable and you can tell the refs have been trying to clean up the game from the tip. 
16:10 – Same possession, after a Spardling save JO ends up with the ball near the hoop, bond gets called for a foul on the shot.  I believe he made contact with JO’s lower body, or reached hard to tell.  Crowd boos (2nd booing btw), replay looks less like a foul than live shot, but still easily callable and refs have been tight all game.
15:56 – I was about to say that Jamar got away with a hack down low, but refs blew a late whistle and called the foul on the floor.

Under 16 TO (15:56) – KSU 9 possible fouls, 4 called. UT 7 possible fouls, 6 called.  Refs blew traveling call on Wangamane.  Score 11-9 UT.

15:46 or so (clock is malfunctioning on espn3) JO gets away with a trip/ illegal screen. Then Rodney is falls on dude who got tripped. Good no call on the second one. 
15:20 – Lewis? gets away with possible reach as Diaz drives with shot clock running out.  Diaz makes hoop.
15:01 – Good clean block by Southwell.
14:51 - clean clock by Chapman on Diaz.
14:36 - another clean block by Chapman on diaz.
14:34 - Diaz has position on Holmes for rebound and Holmes shoves him in the back.  Foul called.
14:17  - Shane DOBs Chapman. Very nice
13:20 – JO fouls Brown to prevent a layup.  Good hard foul by JO.
13:12 – Chapman goes for block on shot by Diaz. Clear foul. Foul called.
13:05 – Irving gets called for a bump near midcourt on Brown.  Brown flails to get the whistle.  Bad call IMO.  Frank sits Tay. ?SMH
11:54 – McClellan flails to get a foul called on McGruder on a lay up attempt. Good no call.

Under 12 TO (11:54) KSU 2 probable fouls IMO 2 called except that Tay got jobbed on his foul and JO got away with one.  UT 3  possible fouls, 2 called.  Score KSU 16-15

10:32 – KSU dicks around and runs shot clock down to nothing. Angel drives and gets stuffed. Good no cal. UT blocks the follow. Another good no call.
10:07 – Diaz slaps Kabongo in the face as Kabongo drives past for a layup.  No call
9:51 – Same Possession, Brown drives and a foul is called on Diaz on the shot.  Looked like Diaz had a hand on Brown’s back but from this angle I can’t tell if he really fouled him. 
9:51 – On KSU in bound Kabongo grabs Angel. Foul called. Good call. Crowd boos (3 memorable boos so far)
9:40 – Shane fouls McClellan to prevent an alley-oop.  Good call. Good foul.
9:32 – Angel gets away with another shove off.
9:10 - Same possession, Angel forced to drive again with shot clock running down.  Wangamene draws the charge on Angel.  Good call. 
8:35 – McClellan gets called for blocking off the ball against Will.  Good off the ball whistle.
8:00 – Gipson gets called for a reach.  I don’t think he really reached like to steal the ball, but he had his hands in as Wangamene cleared and made sure contact with his harms.  Easy Call.
7:37 – Good block by Wangamene on Spradling drive.  No call. I watched this three times looking for a foul.
7:34 – Angel called for a foul blocking on a run out lay up by UT.  I thought the block was clean. Watched it 3 times.  Bad call.
7:00 – Bond gets called for foul on McGruder FT line pull-up J.  Ticky tack foul but refs have been calling it tight.  Bond should know better.
5:35 – Fran thinks that Diaz gets away with Offensive Interferene on alley opp attempt from McGruder.  I don’t know the rule here.  But whatevs. IT looked to me like if he would have caught the ball no one would have noticed anyway.
4:47 – Will gets called for blocking on a Julian Lewis drive.  Will clearly got him with the body on the shot. Good call.
4:22 – Looked like Wangemene got away with a bit of a reach while trapping Will on the wing. No Call
4:20 – Same possession, Diaz gets away with a foul on rebound attempt.
4:14 – JO shoves Wangamene into the goalpost padding. No call.
3:24 – JO fouls Wangamene on Wangamene putback attempt.  Easy call.
1:36 – Jamar pushes McClellan in the back even though another EMAW had position on McClellan for the rebound.  Good call.  Jamar agrees.
:03 – Good block by KSU as Brown drives into the post. 

Stanza – KSU 10 possible fouls, 7 called.  One of the called fouls was BS on the Angel block.
UT – 4 possible fouls, 3 called. 

First half – KSU 21 possible fouls, 13 called (official stats have KSU at 14 so I must have missed one somewhere. KSU also got jobbed on the travel and IMO the Irving and Angel fouls.   UT – 14 possible fouls, 11 called.  Fran thinks UT got jobbed on Diaz alley oop, meh. 

Obviously the second half is what people are pissed about, but this takes a long time and I’m tired (it’s 1:35 AM).  Interesting in this half is that KSU actually got the good lead in the cleanest portion of the game. Not surprisingly it occurred when Rodney and Will were draining threes.  Funny how making shots helps the team a lot. I really couldn’t pay attention to offense/ defense execution much as I was basically just scanning the court for what IMO looked like fouls.  Gip and Tay were the only ones (I might have forgotten someone) who got called for fouls out on the perimeter for KSU.

Second half will come sometime tomorrow.  I may be proven wrong, UT may have gotten away with rape in the 2nd half.  We’ll see.














Jesus Christ, I mean I don't even know.  Nic, you literally don't understand what is happening here.  There isn't a person on thee board who said K-State didn't foul that much.  You wasted your time focused on the wrong thing. Zero is the issue, zero, zero, zero.  How is that so hard to understand?  The absolute worst no call of the day was in the first half and you didn't even mention it is your precious little game diary.  Shane was absolutely mauled by Clint Chapman when Shane dunked on his face anyway, no call.  Not only was there no call but I'm pretty sure there was a blow to the head that should have been a flagrant 1.  As I said yesterday before you started this, don't waste your time.

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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #122 on: February 12, 2012, 10:23:01 AM »
Yeah Shane was fouled.

Still doesn't change the cold hard reality that as long as Frank continues to recruit the way he does it's pretty much going to be a nail biter every year riding various sections of the NCAA bubble into March.


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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #123 on: February 12, 2012, 10:32:26 AM »
As I said yesterday before you started this, don't waste your time.

I'm not against nicname spending his entire sunday doing the 2nd half.  WNR.

Are we still trying to play ball today?  I really don't have time but if everyone's fired up about it, I'll join.  I've got a much better chance of playing one of these upcoming weekend nights or next weekend.

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Re: 2nd half FT attempts -- Texas 26 Kstate 0 ( and last 27 min, Tex 32 Ksu 0)
« Reply #124 on: February 12, 2012, 10:37:44 AM »
due to the shitty recruiting


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relative to the big 12, it's below average.  Looking at the "new" big 12, KU, UT, Baylor, OSU, WVU are all better.  We are probably equal to ISU and OU.  So when you look ahead, we're better than TCU and TT and in a class that puts us battling for 6-8 place.  Frank is losing these games before he plays them.