Good Game Rodney

[WillieWatanabe]

[Kat Kid]

This is why Rod's FTR is so low. Not this specific play, but in general he does a great job of avoiding contact.

Yes. He's turning into the anti-Jamar in the way he attacks the rim.

Speaking of which, Jamar did a fantastic job finishing last night. I was very proud of him.

Maybe his first half is rushing to the fore-front of my memory, but I thought he was great last night.

24 min, 5-10 FG, 1-3 3pt, 3-4 FT, 3 OReb, 2 Ast, 1 TO, 14 points

What more does anyone want/expect from Jamar?

I expect a senior to not do the following as an opponent is trying desperately to stay in a game:


6:52     23   -   36   Jamar Samuels missed layup
6:25     25   -   36   Jamar Samuels turnover
5:51     27   -   36   Jamar Samuels personal foul
5:29     28   -   36   Jamar Samuels missed layup
5:26     28   -   36   Jamar Samuels substitution (OUT)

I mean.  I don't even...

[raquetcat]

Anyone know what Rodney's pro prospects are? Like is there a chance he could leave us after this year? he's got size, can shoot, athleticism, defensive skills, etc. Rodney if you're reading this and you're a lottery pick, go pro, we'll miss you!

[michigancat]

Anyone know what Rodney's pro prospects are? Like is there a chance he could leave us after this year? he's got size, can shoot, athleticism, defensive skills, etc. Rodney if you're reading this and you're a lottery pick, go pro, we'll miss you!

He is good at everything you listed for college but none of them at the NBA level. I suppose he could maybe develop into a 2 in the league but I kind of doubt it.   They are really good at basketball in the NBA.

[steve dave]

Rod is so great. michigancats post about him expanding his game was fantastic. Jamar hate makes me lol. In the faces of those haters. For being retards. In the face.

[SdK]

I'm not saying their games are similar because honestly I don't know. Similar builds and size maybe. I just see Ray Allen when I see Rodney play. For whatever reason I think he could find a home in the league. Not that he would be Jesus Shuttlesworth in the NBA or anything.



Don't anyone go off about how lbbiq that is. I can't back up my statement with facts, I know that. I just sometimes see Rodney play and think of Ray. Free Association if you will.

[Trim]

I just sometimes see Rodney play

Yeah, that's what happens when you show up to get your ticket and go to the game.

[SdK]

I just sometimes see Rodney play

Yeah, that's what happens when you show up to get your ticket and go to the game.

Haha you're right. The funny part is that ticket is the whole reason I was in  Manhattan to watch the Cotton Bowl the night before and I got so crap faced that I couldn't get up the next day.


On the bright side, the first time you gave me a ticket you remarked about how you had no clue who the hell I was....now you do.

[Trim]

I just sometimes see Rodney play

Yeah, that's what happens when you show up to get your ticket and go to the game.

Haha you're right. The funny part is that ticket is the whole reason I was in  Manhattan to watch the Cotton Bowl the night before and I got so crap faced that I couldn't get up the next day.


On the bright side, the first time you gave me a ticket you remarked about how you had no clue who the hell I was....now you do.

I wouldn't recognize you if you set up a tent and camped out in the north wing of my house.

[SdK]

I just sometimes see Rodney play

Yeah, that's what happens when you show up to get your ticket and go to the game.

Haha you're right. The funny part is that ticket is the whole reason I was in  Manhattan to watch the Cotton Bowl the night before and I got so crap faced that I couldn't get up the next day.


On the bright side, the first time you gave me a ticket you remarked about how you had no clue who the hell I was....now you do.

I wouldn't recognize you if you set up a tent and camped out in the north wing of my house.

I think the IP address of my posts would give it away. 

[MakeItRain]

There was one last night (I think it may have been his last floater in the lane) where you could see a charge coming for about 2 full seconds, instead he slid to his right magically in the air and made the floater, no contact. I fistpumped so hard that my forearm did a 360.

This is why Rod's FTR is so low. Not this specific play, but in general he does a great job of avoiding contact.

denied

[MakeItRain]

I just sometimes see Rodney play

Yeah, that's what happens when you show up to get your ticket and go to the game.

Haha you're right. The funny part is that ticket is the whole reason I was in  Manhattan to watch the Cotton Bowl the night before and I got so crap faced that I couldn't get up the next day.


On the bright side, the first time you gave me a ticket you remarked about how you had no clue who the hell I was....now you do.

I wouldn't recognize you if you set up a tent and camped out in the north wing of my house.

I think the IP address of my posts would give it away. 

Just curious, why do you find this so humorous?  You denied someone else the opportunity to go to the game for free, and you're rough ridin' yukking it up.  Are you that socially inept, Aspergers possibly?  Are you just using humor to shield your embarrassment?  Or are you just that big of a dickface?  Not showing up for the ticket is bullshit but forgivable, you acting like you are watching the Kings of Comedy when this is brought up makes me want to drop kick you down the spacious Bramlage aisles.

[Trim]

You denied someone else the opportunity to go to the game

Winters, specifically.

[sonofdaxjones]

Pointing out that guys like Jamar can be complete clusters on the court, who regularly resort to stupid habits is not hating them . . . be honest and understand that this entire team, with the exception of McOReb can be a giant steaming pile of awful on the basketball court early and often.

[pissclams]

Pointing out that guys like Jamar can be complete clusters on the court, who regularly resort to stupid habits is not hating them . . . be honest and understand that this entire team, with the exception of McOReb can be a giant steaming pile of awful on the basketball court early and often.

dax, brush up on your slang.  case in point- specifically, employing the use of the word "hating" does not mean you literally hate someone.  it simply means you're talking negatively about them in that particular instance.

[SwiftCat]

There was one last night (I think it may have been his last floater in the lane) where you could see a charge coming for about 2 full seconds, instead he slid to his right magically in the air and made the floater, no contact. I fistpumped so hard that my forearm did a 360.

This is why Rod's FTR is so low. Not this specific play, but in general he does a great job of avoiding contact.

denied

So it's just an anomaly right? 

[SdK]

I just sometimes see Rodney play

Yeah, that's what happens when you show up to get your ticket and go to the game.

Haha you're right. The funny part is that ticket is the whole reason I was in  Manhattan to watch the Cotton Bowl the night before and I got so crap faced that I couldn't get up the next day.


On the bright side, the first time you gave me a ticket you remarked about how you had no clue who the hell I was....now you do.

I wouldn't recognize you if you set up a tent and camped out in the north wing of my house.

I think the IP address of my posts would give it away. 

Just curious, why do you find this so humorous?  You denied someone else the opportunity to go to the game for free, and you're rough ridin' yukking it up.  Are you that socially inept, Aspergers possibly?  Are you just using humor to shield your embarrassment?  Or are you just that big of a dickface?  Not showing up for the ticket is bullshit but forgivable, you acting like you are watching the Kings of Comedy when this is brought up makes me want to drop kick you down the spacious Bramlage aisles.

I already made a thread where I apologized for not showing up. I don't intend to keep apologizing every time I make a post that you or Trim want to bring it up again. I will make jokes when that happens. I don't take this crap that seriously, I apologized and will seek no further avenues to regain either of your appreciations beyond that. If you want to throw me down some stairs because of all of this, I'd be more than happy to meet you at Bramlage for the next home game.

And sorry Winters!!!!!!

[MakeItRain]

There was one last night (I think it may have been his last floater in the lane) where you could see a charge coming for about 2 full seconds, instead he slid to his right magically in the air and made the floater, no contact. I fistpumped so hard that my forearm did a 360.

This is why Rod's FTR is so low. Not this specific play, but in general he does a great job of avoiding contact.

denied

So it's just an anomaly right?  

don't mock me for the FTr talking point, it was my damn observation in the first place.  You're kind of right, but your observation is too simple.  Yes, shooting floaters lends you to getting fouled less, but he's shooting more floaters now than ever yet his FTr is shooting up.  He shot 10 FTs on Wednesday night.  His FTr is improving even though he's shooting more floaters, because the ball is in his hands more and he's going to the basket much harder than ever.  You don't have much control over how often you are fouled when you're being aggressive.  If you could control how often you are fouled I'm pretty sure Big Gip would rather just shoot FGs instead of shooting 9 FTs every 40 minutes.

Sorry for being a heathen, _FAN

[MakeItRain]

I just sometimes see Rodney play

Yeah, that's what happens when you show up to get your ticket and go to the game.

Haha you're right. The funny part is that ticket is the whole reason I was in  Manhattan to watch the Cotton Bowl the night before and I got so crap faced that I couldn't get up the next day.


On the bright side, the first time you gave me a ticket you remarked about how you had no clue who the hell I was....now you do.

I wouldn't recognize you if you set up a tent and camped out in the north wing of my house.

I think the IP address of my posts would give it away. 

Just curious, why do you find this so humorous?  You denied someone else the opportunity to go to the game for free, and you're rough ridin' yukking it up.  Are you that socially inept, Aspergers possibly?  Are you just using humor to shield your embarrassment?  Or are you just that big of a dickface?  Not showing up for the ticket is bullshit but forgivable, you acting like you are watching the Kings of Comedy when this is brought up makes me want to drop kick you down the spacious Bramlage aisles.

I already made a thread where I apologized for not showing up. I don't intend to keep apologizing every time I make a post that you or Trim want to bring it up again. I will make jokes when that happens. I don't take this crap that seriously, I apologized and will seek no further avenues to regain either of your appreciations beyond that. If you want to throw me down some stairs because of all of this, I'd be more than happy to meet you at Bramlage for the next home game.

And sorry Winters!!!!!!

Every time I bring it up?  First time I said a word about it, Trim and I aren't the same person.  I didn't see a thread about you apologizing, I've just seen you joking about it more than once and it seems to me that you are being a dick about a dick move you pulled.

[kso_FAN]

[redacted] don't mock me for the FTr talking point, it was my damn observation in the first place.  You're kind of right, but your observation is too simple.  Yes, shooting floaters lends you to getting fouled less, but he's shooting more floaters now than ever yet his FTr is shooting up.  He shot 10 FTs on Wednesday night.  His FTr is improving even though he's shooting more floaters, because the ball is in his hands more and he's going to the basket much harder than ever.  You don't have much control over how often you are fouled when you're being aggressive.  If you could control how often you are fouled I'm pretty sure Big Gip would rather just shoot FGs instead of shooting 9 FTs every 40 minutes.

His attacking style this year, and especially lately, has raised his FTr, but he's still a weird FTr-er. This year he has 6 games with FTrs around 60, which is pretty good for him. But he also has 7 with FTrs of 11 or lower. Then a few up around his average for the year (30). Even in Big 12 play he's better, but he still goes 28.5, 11.7, 57.1, 25.0, and 58.8 in his 5 games. And most of his fouls drawn seem to occur more in transition situations; when he penetrates he seems much more interested in avoiding contact and hitting his killer floater than trying to draw contact and possible And 1s.

[SdK]

I just sometimes see Rodney play

Yeah, that's what happens when you show up to get your ticket and go to the game.

Haha you're right. The funny part is that ticket is the whole reason I was in  Manhattan to watch the Cotton Bowl the night before and I got so crap faced that I couldn't get up the next day.


On the bright side, the first time you gave me a ticket you remarked about how you had no clue who the hell I was....now you do.

I wouldn't recognize you if you set up a tent and camped out in the north wing of my house.

I think the IP address of my posts would give it away. 

Just curious, why do you find this so humorous?  You denied someone else the opportunity to go to the game for free, and you're rough ridin' yukking it up.  Are you that socially inept, Aspergers possibly?  Are you just using humor to shield your embarrassment?  Or are you just that big of a dickface?  Not showing up for the ticket is bullshit but forgivable, you acting like you are watching the Kings of Comedy when this is brought up makes me want to drop kick you down the spacious Bramlage aisles.

I already made a thread where I apologized for not showing up. I don't intend to keep apologizing every time I make a post that you or Trim want to bring it up again. I will make jokes when that happens. I don't take this crap that seriously, I apologized and will seek no further avenues to regain either of your appreciations beyond that. If you want to throw me down some stairs because of all of this, I'd be more than happy to meet you at Bramlage for the next home game.

And sorry Winters!!!!!!

Every time I bring it up?  First time I said a word about it, Trim and I aren't the same person.  I didn't see a thread about you apologizing, I've just seen you joking about it more than once and it seems to me that you are being a dick about a dick move you pulled.

I know you aren't the same person. I just met you both at the same time. I figured you were friends, possibly sharing similar view points. Perhaps not.

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=18608.0

[Trim]

I'd be more than happy to meet you at Bramlage for the next home game.

You mean unless something else comes up?

[MakeItRain]

[redacted] don't mock me for the FTr talking point, it was my damn observation in the first place.  You're kind of right, but your observation is too simple.  Yes, shooting floaters lends you to getting fouled less, but he's shooting more floaters now than ever yet his FTr is shooting up.  He shot 10 FTs on Wednesday night.  His FTr is improving even though he's shooting more floaters, because the ball is in his hands more and he's going to the basket much harder than ever.  You don't have much control over how often you are fouled when you're being aggressive.  If you could control how often you are fouled I'm pretty sure Big Gip would rather just shoot FGs instead of shooting 9 FTs every 40 minutes.

His attacking style this year, and especially lately, has raised his FTr, but he's still a weird FTr-er. This year he has 6 games with FTrs around 60, which is pretty good for him. But he also has 7 with FTrs of 11 or lower. Then a few up around his average for the year (30). Even in Big 12 play he's better, but he still goes 28.5, 11.7, 57.1, 25.0, and 58.8 in his 5 games. And most of his fouls drawn seem to occur more in transition situations; when he penetrates he seems much more interested in avoiding contact and hitting his killer floater than trying to draw contact and possible And 1s.

Clearly the farther away from the basket you work the less you're going to get fouled.  The point here is that floaters as an explanation for his FTr is an explanation that is sorely lacking.  And I don't think he is "avoiding contact" he's getting himself in the best scoring positions for Rodney.

[kso_FAN]

[redacted] don't mock me for the FTr talking point, it was my damn observation in the first place.  You're kind of right, but your observation is too simple.  Yes, shooting floaters lends you to getting fouled less, but he's shooting more floaters now than ever yet his FTr is shooting up.  He shot 10 FTs on Wednesday night.  His FTr is improving even though he's shooting more floaters, because the ball is in his hands more and he's going to the basket much harder than ever.  You don't have much control over how often you are fouled when you're being aggressive.  If you could control how often you are fouled I'm pretty sure Big Gip would rather just shoot FGs instead of shooting 9 FTs every 40 minutes.

His attacking style this year, and especially lately, has raised his FTr, but he's still a weird FTr-er. This year he has 6 games with FTrs around 60, which is pretty good for him. But he also has 7 with FTrs of 11 or lower. Then a few up around his average for the year (30). Even in Big 12 play he's better, but he still goes 28.5, 11.7, 57.1, 25.0, and 58.8 in his 5 games. And most of his fouls drawn seem to occur more in transition situations; when he penetrates he seems much more interested in avoiding contact and hitting his killer floater than trying to draw contact and possible And 1s.

Clearly the farther away from the basket you work the less you're going to get fouled.  The point here is that floaters as an explanation for his FTr is an explanation that is sorely lacking.  And I don't think he is "avoiding contact" he's getting himself in the best scoring positions for Rodney.

I suppose I'm thinking of flawed comparisons to past players like Jake and Denis. When they got inside defenses (Jake more than Denis) they often tried to draw contact at the rim as much as trying to score. But they were smaller with better handles.

[MakeItRain]

[redacted] don't mock me for the FTr talking point, it was my damn observation in the first place.  You're kind of right, but your observation is too simple.  Yes, shooting floaters lends you to getting fouled less, but he's shooting more floaters now than ever yet his FTr is shooting up.  He shot 10 FTs on Wednesday night.  His FTr is improving even though he's shooting more floaters, because the ball is in his hands more and he's going to the basket much harder than ever.  You don't have much control over how often you are fouled when you're being aggressive.  If you could control how often you are fouled I'm pretty sure Big Gip would rather just shoot FGs instead of shooting 9 FTs every 40 minutes.

His attacking style this year, and especially lately, has raised his FTr, but he's still a weird FTr-er. This year he has 6 games with FTrs around 60, which is pretty good for him. But he also has 7 with FTrs of 11 or lower. Then a few up around his average for the year (30). Even in Big 12 play he's better, but he still goes 28.5, 11.7, 57.1, 25.0, and 58.8 in his 5 games. And most of his fouls drawn seem to occur more in transition situations; when he penetrates he seems much more interested in avoiding contact and hitting his killer floater than trying to draw contact and possible And 1s.

Clearly the farther away from the basket you work the less you're going to get fouled.  The point here is that floaters as an explanation for his FTr is an explanation that is sorely lacking.  And I don't think he is "avoiding contact" he's getting himself in the best scoring positions for Rodney.

I suppose I'm thinking of flawed comparisons to past players like Jake and Denis. When they got inside defenses (Jake more than Denis) they often tried to draw contact at the rim as much as trying to score. But they were smaller with better handles.

Yes, Jake went to the body against defenders.  Rodney absolutely doesn't do this, but on the same note I don't think he is guilty of avoiding contact