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Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #125 on: December 18, 2011, 07:45:58 PM »
The avg overall defense ranking for the conference is 83.2.  There is one Big team ranked in the top 60, UT @ #14.  I guess it's possible that the other nine teams all have shitty recruiters and terrible DCs but it's probably more likely that the insane offenses we have to face over the 9 game schedule is a major factor.  Give Cosh some credit for eff's sake.  We were rough ridin' atrocious last year.  We brought in some solid new guys and now we're an average defense in the best offensive BCS conference.  Oh, and we're 10-2.  What's the best record for a VK coached defense over the past few years?  How many of his HCs reaped the benefits of his jimmies and joes and is currently still employed?
I dont think Cosh is the devil, but I would certainly like to see him leave and a better D-Coord come in.  And VK is definitely to blame for his team's 86th ranked offense, 105th ranked scoring offense.  Definitely his fault the coach got fired
I think we can all agree VK is better than CC.  That still doesn't change the fact CC proved his defensive plays are more effective with better players this year.  He doesn't have the gems that other teams have.  Also, VK's total defense this year is ranked 6th in the nation.  Hopefully Cosh gets the job; just hope we get someone better.
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Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #126 on: December 18, 2011, 07:53:01 PM »
The avg overall defense ranking for the conference is 83.2.  There is one Big team ranked in the top 60, UT @ #14.  I guess it's possible that the other nine teams all have shitty recruiters and terrible DCs but it's probably more likely that the insane offenses we have to face over the 9 game schedule is a major factor.  Give Cosh some credit for eff's sake.  We were rough ridin' atrocious last year.  We brought in some solid new guys and now we're an average defense in the best offensive BCS conference.  Oh, and we're 10-2.  What's the best record for a VK coached defense over the past few years?  How many of his HCs reaped the benefits of his jimmies and joes and is currently still employed?
I dont think Cosh is the devil, but I would certainly like to see him leave and a better D-Coord come in.  And VK is definitely to blame for his team's 86th ranked offense, 105th ranked scoring offense.  Definitely his fault the coach got fired
I think we can all agree VK is better than CC.  That still doesn't change the fact CC proved his defensive plays are more effective with better players this year.  He doesn't have the gems that other teams have.  Also, VK's total defense this year is ranked 6th in the nation.  Hopefully Cosh gets the job; just hope we get someone better.
Just seen this posted on TOB...
Whether you think Cosh is a good coach or not, the fact is that he's our DC because he's settling. He can't get a better job, that's why he's here. If he sucks next year, we're not happy. If he does well, he'll leave. I rather him leave now.
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Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #127 on: December 18, 2011, 07:55:17 PM »
Dax, was there a significant improvement in defense from '10 to '11?  A simple yes or no would suffice.   

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Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #128 on: December 18, 2011, 08:00:26 PM »
The avg overall defense ranking for the conference is 83.2.  There is one Big team ranked in the top 60, UT @ #14.  I guess it's possible that the other nine teams all have shitty recruiters and terrible DCs but it's probably more likely that the insane offenses we have to face over the 9 game schedule is a major factor.  Give Cosh some credit for eff's sake.  We were rough ridin' atrocious last year.  We brought in some solid new guys and now we're an average defense in the best offensive BCS conference.  Oh, and we're 10-2.  What's the best record for a VK coached defense over the past few years?  How many of his HCs reaped the benefits of his jimmies and joes and is currently still employed?
I dont think Cosh is the devil, but I would certainly like to see him leave and a better D-Coord come in.  And VK is definitely to blame for his team's 86th ranked offense, 105th ranked scoring offense.  Definitely his fault the coach got fired
I think we can all agree VK is better than CC.  That still doesn't change the fact CC proved his defensive plays are more effective with better players this year.  He doesn't have the gems that other teams have.  Also, VK's total defense this year is ranked 6th in the nation.  Hopefully Cosh gets the job; just hope we get someone better.
Just seen this posted on TOB...
Whether you think Cosh is a good coach or not, the fact is that he's our DC because he's settling. He can't get a better job, that's why he's here. If he sucks next year, we're not happy. If he does well, he'll leave. I rather him leave now.


He'll suck again and he will stay, because OBz falls in love with his assistants and will fire NOBODY!!!
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Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #129 on: December 18, 2011, 08:21:51 PM »
I can't believe that Coshes shiftiness is even up for debate. W/o about 3 new players, this defense is just as crappy as last year.

Im already nervous about losing Garrett and potentially Malone.
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Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #130 on: December 18, 2011, 08:30:28 PM »
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Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #131 on: December 18, 2011, 08:55:38 PM »
Seems like that would be some sort of (yet another) violation for UNC. 

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Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #132 on: December 18, 2011, 09:09:23 PM »
I can't believe that Coshes shiftiness is even up for debate. W/o about 3 new players, this defense is just as crappy as last year.

Im already nervous about losing Garrett and potentially Malone.

I think Malone is safe.  I don't think he's quite got the measurables the NFL is looking for.  He needs another season of solid production.

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Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #133 on: December 18, 2011, 09:12:30 PM »
Dax, was there a significant improvement in defense from '10 to '11?  A simple yes or no would suffice.    

Improvement?  yes.

Significant?  no

Now you try to answer my question jtuck.




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Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #134 on: December 18, 2011, 09:14:04 PM »
Seems like a juco transfer with only 1 season of D1 experience would need an incredible season to be drafted in the first few rounds.  Unless Malone is cool with being a late round guy he should probably return (and hopefully have another solid season) and see if he's able to move up the board.

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Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #135 on: December 18, 2011, 10:06:38 PM »
I can't believe that Coshes shiftiness is even up for debate. W/o about 3 new players, this defense is just as crappy as last year.

Im already nervous about losing Garrett and potentially Malone.

I think Malone is safe.  I don't think he's quite got the measurables the NFL is looking for.  He needs another season of solid production.

This is what they said about josh moore  :ohno:
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Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #136 on: December 18, 2011, 10:08:08 PM »
I can't believe that Coshes shiftiness is even up for debate. W/o about 3 new players, this defense is just as crappy as last year.

Im already nervous about losing Garrett and potentially Malone.

I think Malone is safe.  I don't think he's quite got the measurables the NFL is looking for.  He needs another season of solid production.

This is what they said about josh moore  :ohno:

he should be a example of why not to leave early

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Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #137 on: December 18, 2011, 10:08:42 PM »
I can't believe that Coshes shiftiness is even up for debate. W/o about 3 new players, this defense is just as crappy as last year.

Im already nervous about losing Garrett and potentially Malone.

I think Malone is safe.  I don't think he's quite got the measurables the NFL is looking for.  He needs another season of solid production.

This is what they said about josh moore  :ohno:

Not to brag, but I said Moore would leave after that year and get drafted in July.

Just sayin'.  I think we're good with Malone.

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Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #138 on: December 18, 2011, 10:13:56 PM »
Malone  :crossfingers:
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Re: Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #139 on: December 19, 2011, 07:52:34 AM »
One of our D guys (don't remember who) tweeted several weeks ago that we should all enjoy malone now because he plans to go to the leauge next yr.  Granted, that was several wks ago.

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Re: Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #140 on: December 19, 2011, 08:26:45 AM »
One of our D guys (don't remember who) tweeted several weeks ago that we should all enjoy malone now because he plans to go to the leauge next yr.  Granted, that was several wks ago.

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I thought that was Sams.

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Re: Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #141 on: December 19, 2011, 08:27:44 AM »
One of our D guys (don't remember who) tweeted several weeks ago that we should all enjoy malone now because he plans to go to the leauge next yr.  Granted, that was several wks ago.

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I thought that was Sams.

it was

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Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #142 on: December 19, 2011, 08:40:25 AM »
If Malone goes to the NFL, would he claim to be from K-State during pre-game introductions to the players?  :ohno:

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #143 on: December 19, 2011, 09:34:00 AM »
One of our D guys (don't remember who) tweeted several weeks ago that we should all enjoy malone now because he plans to go to the leauge next yr.  Granted, that was several wks ago.

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I thought that was Sams.

Good mem.

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Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #144 on: December 19, 2011, 10:07:18 AM »
One of our D guys (don't remember who) tweeted several weeks ago that we should all enjoy malone now because he plans to go to the leauge next yr.  Granted, that was several wks ago.

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I thought that was Sams.

I remember that too.....but I thought he was being sarcastic.. :confused:

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Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #145 on: December 19, 2011, 10:09:22 AM »

Kinda dumb to play the jimmies and joes card while also denying Cosh any credit for having better players this year.  AB may have transferred solely because of Bill but I would have to assume that the DC had some part in bringing in guys like Malone, Walker, Kibble, Williams, Davis, etc.
If you're saying that Cosh has better players now than VK had, its a shame is defense is so much worse

VK was 56 in total D at KSU, we are 88 this year.  VK was 55 in opponent ppg at KSU, we are 72 this year. 

Meanwhile, VKs Illinois defenses were top 30 ppg and top 10 total d this year

we didn't round robin with VK and Big Ten offenses are  :facepalm:

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Re: Re: Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #146 on: December 19, 2011, 10:16:00 AM »
One of our D guys (don't remember who) tweeted several weeks ago that we should all enjoy malone now because he plans to go to the leauge next yr.  Granted, that was several wks ago.

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I thought that was Sams.

I remember that too.....but I thought he was being sarcastic.. :confused:

Maybe. If so, I didn't pick up on it.  That said, that is one reason I love twitter.  Perfectly acceptable to be very ADHD and not read much into it.

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Re: Re: Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #147 on: December 19, 2011, 12:32:13 PM »
One of our D guys (don't remember who) tweeted several weeks ago that we should all enjoy malone now because he plans to go to the leauge next yr.  Granted, that was several wks ago.

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I thought that was Sams.

I remember that too.....but I thought he was being sarcastic.. :confused:

Maybe. If so, I didn't pick up on it.  That said, that is one reason I love twitter.  Perfectly acceptable to be very ADHD and not read much into it.

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I think malone also tweeted something about "enjoy me while i'm here"  :dunno:

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Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #148 on: December 19, 2011, 12:39:53 PM »
Quote from: nigel's twitter
1:12 AM - 8 Dec 11 via TweetCaster for Android · Details   
@nigelmalone24 8 Dec - Enjoy me while you can

1:12 AM - 8 Dec 11 via TweetCaster for Android · Details 
@nigelmalone24 8 Dec - But its good this is a buisness trip i came out here to play football

1:12 AM - 8 Dec 11 via TweetCaster for Android · Details
@nigelmalone24 8 Dec - I enjoy kstate football and love our fans...but manhattan is the dryest city ever it makes manteca seem like LA

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Re: Cosh gone?
« Reply #149 on: December 19, 2011, 12:48:38 PM »
Quote from: nigel's twitter
1:12 AM - 8 Dec 11 via TweetCaster for Android · Details   
@nigelmalone24 8 Dec - Enjoy me while you can

1:12 AM - 8 Dec 11 via TweetCaster for Android · Details 
@nigelmalone24 8 Dec - But its good this is a buisness trip i came out here to play football

1:12 AM - 8 Dec 11 via TweetCaster for Android · Details
@nigelmalone24 8 Dec - I enjoy kstate football and love our fans...but manhattan is the dryest city ever it makes manteca seem like LA

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