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where do you want to see goEMAW in 5 years?
« on: December 04, 2011, 10:49:36 AM »
seems like this place will never grow as a brand if the continued asshattery goes on. 

I honestly believe the owners of goEMAW have a serious model for a successful business.  A rebel board with good advertising would compete heavily with any scout or rivals systems. People want info, not over moderation and creepers who stalk young women.  goEMAW has had some great scoops because of the drive for info from other sources. 

However I think goEMAW hurts their future success by running off rival fans bases through sheer high school retardation.  What did Havs do you get run out?  What did numerous KU fans who were sick of phog do to get run off?  Now we're stuck with shitty posters like Beems and that one Husker guy who works at the Union Taco Bell.


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Re: where do you want to see goEMAW in 5 years?
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2011, 10:55:11 AM »
seems like this place will never grow as a brand if the continued asshattery goes on. 

I honestly believe the owners of goEMAW have a serious model for a successful business.  A rebel board with good advertising would compete heavily with any scout or rivals systems. People want info, not over moderation and creepers who stalk young women.  goEMAW has had some great scoops because of the drive for info from other sources. 

However I think goEMAW hurts their future success by running off rival fans bases through sheer high school retardation.  What did Havs do you get run out?  What did numerous KU fans who were sick of phog do to get run off?  Now we're stuck with shitty posters like Beems and that one Husker guy who works at the Union Taco Bell.
The light moderation means that your final paragraph can never be fixed by the owners. 

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Re: where do you want to see goEMAW in 5 years?
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2011, 11:09:01 AM »
We're Big Brothers Big Sisters' Top Company of the Year, along with a finalist for Forbes' America's Most Promising Companies.  What more do you want?

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Re: where do you want to see goEMAW in 5 years?
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2011, 11:11:36 AM »
The goEMAW.com investors are going to lose their shorts. Nice investment, you guys! :lol:

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Re: where do you want to see goEMAW in 5 years?
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2011, 11:18:14 AM »
seems like this place will never grow as a brand if the continued asshattery goes on. 

I honestly believe the owners of goEMAW have a serious model for a successful business.  A rebel board with good advertising would compete heavily with any scout or rivals systems. People want info, not over moderation and creepers who stalk young women.  goEMAW has had some great scoops because of the drive for info from other sources. 

However I think goEMAW hurts their future success by running off rival fans bases through sheer high school retardation.  What did Havs do you get run out?  What did numerous KU fans who were sick of phog do to get run off?  Now we're stuck with shitty posters like Beems and that one Husker guy who works at the Union Taco Bell.

one slightly major hurdle in your scheme is that nobody really cares about growing or branding or making money.

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Re: where do you want to see goEMAW in 5 years?
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2011, 11:32:40 AM »
nobody really cares about growing or branding

it's not like anyone ever does anything like make signs or tweet about goEMAW, right?

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Re: where do you want to see goEMAW in 5 years?
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2011, 12:22:42 PM »
As long as this site stays true to our original mission, helping the owners sex up married women, I will maintain the status quo.

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Re: where do you want to see goEMAW in 5 years?
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2011, 12:24:05 PM »
nobody really cares about growing or branding

it's not like anyone ever does anything like make signs or tweet about goEMAW, right?


hmmm. maybe change to most. dunno.

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Re: where do you want to see goEMAW in 5 years?
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2011, 01:20:59 PM »
goEMAW is not a means to an end, it is the end.

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Re: where do you want to see goEMAW in 5 years?
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2011, 01:50:42 PM »
seems like this place will never grow as a brand if the continued asshattery goes on. 

I honestly believe the owners of goEMAW have a serious model for a successful business.  A rebel board with good advertising would compete heavily with any scout or rivals systems. People want info, not over moderation and creepers who stalk young women.  goEMAW has had some great scoops because of the drive for info from other sources. 

However I think goEMAW hurts their future success by running off rival fans bases through sheer high school retardation.  What did Havs do you get run out?  What did numerous KU fans who were sick of phog do to get run off?  Now we're stuck with shitty posters like Beems and that one Husker guy who works at the Union Taco Bell.

one slightly major hurdle in your scheme is that nobody really cares about growing or branding or making money.
  than why contribute to fundraisers and sponsor events?  I think you are trying to be contrarian just for the persona.  Your actions are speaking for you, that there is some method to the madness.  For the sake of argument why not try and grow the brand of a rebel board?  Why not consider this venture as a legitimate opportunity? WtW shows that the model can be grown to other sources.  Why not get in on the ground floor and make a brand that you can profit from instead of waiting for an imitator like WtW to copy what youre already doing.


seems like this place will never grow as a brand if the continued asshattery goes on. 

I honestly believe the owners of goEMAW have a serious model for a successful business.  A rebel board with good advertising would compete heavily with any scout or rivals systems. People want info, not over moderation and creepers who stalk young women.  goEMAW has had some great scoops because of the drive for info from other sources. 

However I think goEMAW hurts their future success by running off rival fans bases through sheer high school retardation.  What did Havs do you get run out?  What did numerous KU fans who were sick of phog do to get run off?  Now we're stuck with shitty posters like Beems and that one Husker guy who works at the Union Taco Bell.
The light moderation means that your final paragraph can never be fixed by the owners. 
Disagree.  You can have banter, name calling and invention names for various fan bases without crossing various lines.  Look at the amazing things rebel boards have done for this university in particular.  All you have to do is look at the basketball court to see the far reaching effects of a focuses group outside of corporate control. 

Trashing on people for having suicidal family members or kids getting trample does nothing to create fun dialogue between people.  If people want a powerespect level of moderation they know where to find it.  This place could be the best place for informative debate and legit trash talking (see cranky horn and land grabers) without crossing even minimal levels of moderate discourse.
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Re: where do you want to see goEMAW in 5 years?
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2011, 01:57:47 PM »
sounds like you have some great ideas ednksu

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Re: where do you want to see goEMAW in 5 years?
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2011, 02:06:55 PM »
Free Speech is our first value.

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Re: where do you want to see goEMAW in 5 years?
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2011, 02:08:17 PM »
Once non-NFSW material is open to moderation, how do you decide where to draw the line?  and who decides?

This is just my opinion,  but what makes goEMAW work is that in effect this place is community-owned.   Not being a "rebel" board or whatever that means.  You want to make a banner for the site, go ahead and do it, we'll probably add it.  Make a cool video, we'll promote it.  Have great blog ideas or an article you want published, we'll provide you a platform to do so.  

There is nothing wrong with goEMAW that cannot be cured by what is right with goEMAW.  It's just sometimes the good is not very active about it.

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Re: where do you want to see goEMAW in 5 years?
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2011, 02:14:27 PM »
I like it here  :dunno:

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Re: where do you want to see goEMAW in 5 years?
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2011, 02:23:58 PM »
Once non-NFSW material is open to moderation, how do you decide where to draw the line?  and who decides?

This is just my opinion,  but what makes goEMAW work is that in effect this place is community-owned.   Not being a "rebel" board or whatever that means.  You want to make a banner for the site, go ahead and do it, we'll probably add it.  Make a cool video, we'll promote it.  Have great blog ideas or an article you want published, we'll provide you a platform to do so.  

There is nothing wrong with goEMAW that cannot be cured by what is right with goEMAW.  It's just sometimes the good is not very active about it.
I agree with what you are saying.  Although I disagree with the direction of your post.  The two don't have to be mutually exclusive. The rebel board is a simple concept.  Don't sell out to a corporation or yourself (ie: promised premium with nothing to offer and duping people into believing that you get the same content from the big boards).

To answer Tortuga and extend my point.  You can have freedom of speech and vibrant conversation without yelling fire in the theater.  Shaggy bevo is a pretty good example of a third party.  I think this place would be better and honestly it would be better for K-State University proper if there was a place where fans wanted to come to see new and interesting topics.  The goEMAW/ksufans brand has already proven that they can generate ideas which effect the university.
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Re: where do you want to see goEMAW in 5 years?
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2011, 02:31:08 PM »
goEMAW is great. But what about goEMAW...with boobs?
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Re: where do you want to see goEMAW in 5 years?
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2011, 02:36:00 PM »
goEMAW is great. But what about goEMAW...with boobs?

let me ask you this question, what are your thoughts about goEMAW.com car, home and life insurance for you and your family if you knew that 40% of the profits were funneled into a superfund of sorts that directly profited kansas state university athletics?  :dunno:
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Re: where do you want to see goEMAW in 5 years?
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2011, 02:47:11 PM »
Once non-NFSW material is open to moderation, how do you decide where to draw the line?  and who decides?

This is just my opinion,  but what makes goEMAW work is that in effect this place is community-owned.   Not being a "rebel" board or whatever that means.  You want to make a banner for the site, go ahead and do it, we'll probably add it.  Make a cool video, we'll promote it.  Have great blog ideas or an article you want published, we'll provide you a platform to do so.  

There is nothing wrong with goEMAW that cannot be cured by what is right with goEMAW.  It's just sometimes the good is not very active about it.
I agree with what you are saying.  Although I disagree with the direction of your post.  The two don't have to be mutually exclusive. The rebel board is a simple concept.  Don't sell out to a corporation or yourself (ie: promised premium with nothing to offer and duping people into believing that you get the same content from the big boards).

To answer Tortuga and extend my point.  You can have freedom of speech and vibrant conversation without yelling fire in the theater.  Shaggy bevo is a pretty good example of a third party.  I think this place would be better and honestly it would be better for K-State University proper if there was a place where fans wanted to come to see new and interesting topics.  The goEMAW/ksufans brand has already proven that they can generate ideas which effect the university.

If the only difference between "rebel board" and "goEMAW" is censorship, then I'll take goEMAW.

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« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2011, 03:03:39 PM »
Once non-NFSW material is open to moderation, how do you decide where to draw the line?  and who decides?

This is just my opinion,  but what makes goEMAW work is that in effect this place is community-owned.   Not being a "rebel" board or whatever that means.  You want to make a banner for the site, go ahead and do it, we'll probably add it.  Make a cool video, we'll promote it.  Have great blog ideas or an article you want published, we'll provide you a platform to do so.  

There is nothing wrong with goEMAW that cannot be cured by what is right with goEMAW.  It's just sometimes the good is not very active about it.
I agree with what you are saying.  Although I disagree with the direction of your post.  The two don't have to be mutually exclusive. The rebel board is a simple concept.  Don't sell out to a corporation or yourself (ie: promised premium with nothing to offer and duping people into believing that you get the same content from the big boards).

To answer Tortuga and extend my point.  You can have freedom of speech and vibrant conversation without yelling fire in the theater.  Shaggy bevo is a pretty good example of a third party.  I think this place would be better and honestly it would be better for K-State University proper if there was a place where fans wanted to come to see new and interesting topics.  The goEMAW/ksufans brand has already proven that they can generate ideas which effect the university.

If the only difference between "rebel board" and "goEMAW" is censorship, then I'll take goEMAW.
First off this board is already censored to some degree.
You can have reasonable censorship and dialogue.
goEMAW is the rebel board.
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Re: where do you want to see goEMAW in 5 years?
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2011, 03:05:52 PM »
I vote we ban ednksu

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« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2011, 03:06:55 PM »
I vote we ban ednksu

what if we just start censoring him?  :dunno:

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« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2011, 03:07:55 PM »
Once non-NFSW material is open to moderation, how do you decide where to draw the line?  and who decides?

This is just my opinion,  but what makes goEMAW work is that in effect this place is community-owned.   Not being a "rebel" board or whatever that means.  You want to make a banner for the site, go ahead and do it, we'll probably add it.  Make a cool video, we'll promote it.  Have great blog ideas or an article you want published, we'll provide you a platform to do so.  

There is nothing wrong with goEMAW that cannot be cured by what is right with goEMAW.  It's just sometimes the good is not very active about it.
I agree with what you are saying.  Although I disagree with the direction of your post.  The two don't have to be mutually exclusive. The rebel board is a simple concept.  Don't sell out to a corporation or yourself (ie: promised premium with nothing to offer and duping people into believing that you get the same content from the big boards).

To answer Tortuga and extend my point.  You can have freedom of speech and vibrant conversation without yelling fire in the theater.  Shaggy bevo is a pretty good example of a third party.  I think this place would be better and honestly it would be better for K-State University proper if there was a place where fans wanted to come to see new and interesting topics.  The goEMAW/ksufans brand has already proven that they can generate ideas which effect the university.

If the only difference between "rebel board" and "goEMAW" is censorship, then I'll take goEMAW.
First off this board is already censored to some degree.
You can have reasonable censorship and dialogue.
goEMAW is the rebel board.

there is a filter and we remove spam.  In addition we have screwed around with fanning and a couple others.

The entire problem with censorship is that "reasonable censorship" is impossible to execute and invites abuse.  

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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2011, 03:10:13 PM »
if "reasonable censorship" means banning one bad poster every week then i'm in.

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« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2011, 03:13:10 PM »
if "reasonable censorship" means banning one bad poster every week then i'm in.

well rick, we'd be out of the website business pretty quick with that strategy!

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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2011, 03:18:05 PM »
I vote we ban ednksu

what if we just start censoring him?  :dunno:

Am I BBSing right?  :ksu:

Once non-NFSW material is open to moderation, how do you decide where to draw the line?  and who decides?

This is just my opinion,  but what makes goEMAW work is that in effect this place is community-owned.   Not being a "rebel" board or whatever that means.  You want to make a banner for the site, go ahead and do it, we'll probably add it.  Make a cool video, we'll promote it.  Have great blog ideas or an article you want published, we'll provide you a platform to do so.   

There is nothing wrong with goEMAW that cannot be cured by what is right with goEMAW.  It's just sometimes the good is not very active about it.
I agree with what you are saying.  Although I disagree with the direction of your post.  The two don't have to be mutually exclusive. The rebel board is a simple concept.  Don't sell out to a corporation or yourself (ie: promised premium with nothing to offer and duping people into believing that you get the same content from the big boards).

To answer Tortuga and extend my point.  You can have freedom of speech and vibrant conversation without yelling fire in the theater.  Shaggy bevo is a pretty good example of a third party.  I think this place would be better and honestly it would be better for K-State University proper if there was a place where fans wanted to come to see new and interesting topics.  The goEMAW/ksufans brand has already proven that they can generate ideas which effect the university.

If the only difference between "rebel board" and "goEMAW" is censorship, then I'll take goEMAW.
First off this board is already censored to some degree.
You can have reasonable censorship and dialogue.
goEMAW is the rebel board.

there is a filter and we remove spam.  In addition we have screwed around with fanning and a couple others.

The entire problem with censorship is that "reasonable censorship" is impossible to execute and invites abuse. 

So seriously though, is nothing off topic for you?
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