Gill fired/KU coach search/Weiss master thread

[Katpappy]

I know the Jayhawks made a coaching change and brought in a solid quarterback, but that's not going to change things overnight. We're talking about a team that only won two games last year, that struggled to score and couldn't stop other teams from scoring to save their life. I like the direction this team is heading in, but there's almost no chance they can win the Big 12 this season.

Odds: +915  

8. Kansas State
Kansas State is returning 14 starters from a team that won 10 games, but what are the chances they're able to do it again this season? I love LHC Bill Snyder as a head coach, but I'm not sure this is a team that will be as competitive as they were a year ago. There are many questions on the offensive and defensive line, and a difficult schedule doesn't help them out either.
Odds: +800  

7. Baylor  
Baylor did lose their Superman quarterback in Robert Griffin, but Nick Florence isn't a bad quarterback at all. In 2009, he completed 62 percent of his passes and threw for six touchdowns. Even last season, when Griffin was taken out of the game due to injury, he completed 75 percent of his passes and two touchdowns.
The problem with this team is their defense. It cost them last year and will likely cost them any shot to repeat the success they experienced last season.
Odds: +725  

6. Texas Tech  
Texas Tech may be the team that would give you the most bang for your buck, as they aren't a bad team at all. They do have a very difficult schedule, but they're a talented team that has a fantastic quarterback in Seth Doege, who threw for over 4,000 yards last season.
They will need several breaks if they expect to win this conference, but I wouldn't count them out, as they have a few pieces that could surprise some people.
Odds: +650  

5. Oklahoma State
Oklahoma State is missing several key pieces from their team last year, and it'll really be difficult to repeat the success they had last season. But they do have a few things going for them, like the fact that eight players are returning on the defensive side of the ball, and they still have running back Joseph Randle carrying the ball for them.
With a few breaks here and there, the Cowboys could be a sleeper team to watch out for next year.
Odds: +500  

4. TCU
TCU was a very young team last season, which means that majority of their team is coming back this season. The key to this team will of course be the defense, which allowed 21.5 points per game last year and will really help them stick out in a conference that isn't known for great defense.
If the Horned Frogs can have a balanced attack like they did last season, they'll have a great shot at winning this conference in their first year.
Odds: +300  

3. West Virginia
If this wasn't the first year that West Virginia was in the Big 12, I may have them at the No. 2 or possibly even No. 1 spot. But we need to see how this team competes against tougher competition before I make them the favorites.
With that said, West Virginia is an extremely talented team, especially on offense led by Geno Smith and all of his weapons to give the football to. Don't be surprised if the Mountaineers end up winning this conference their first year in it.
Odds: +150  

2. Texas  
Texas may have had a couple of sub-par seasons, but they remain one of the most talented teams in the country. They're returning 16 starters, including nine players on the offensive side of the ball. They also have a favorable schedule, getting West Virginia and TCU at home.
If this team can find some consistency at the quarterback position, they'll have a fantastic shot at winning this conference.
Odds: +100  

1. Oklahoma
The Oklahoma Sooners have to be the early favorites to win the Big 12. After all, they do have the most talented team, the best quarterback in Landry Jones and one of the top running backs in Dominique Whaley.
This is a team that's returning a total of 15 starters, and they are eager to prove the critics wrong after falling apart at the end of last season.
It won't be a cakewalk for the Sooners this year, but they should be the pick to win this conference.
Odds: -100  

Randy Chambers is a B/R featured columnist that covers college football and the NFL. You can contact him @Randy_Chambers or [email protected].

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[420seriouscat69]

Jfc, what an effing idiot.

[Katpappy]

Jfc, what an effing idiot.

You know the respect card is no where to be found at KSU.  We could have won a BCS bowl game and they still will put us close to the bottom. 

[_33]

Pretty spot on actually.

[420seriouscat69]

Wake me when Texas finds a quarterback. They can recruit all the talent in the world, but until they find a quarterback, they're screwed.

[Katpappy]

Wake me when Texas finds a quarterback. They can recruit all the talent in the world, but until they find a quarterback, they're screwed.

The team we need to beat to a pulp like TTU did last year is Oklahoma.  They are the reason CK had the injuried ribs and may have caused us to lose to Okie Lite.  We really need this for respect. 

[420seriouscat69]

Wake me when Texas finds a quarterback. They can recruit all the talent in the world, but until they find a quarterback, they're screwed.

The team we need to beat to a pulp like TTU did last year is Oklahoma.  They are the reason CK had the injuried ribs and may have caused us to lose to Okie Lite.  We really need this for respect. 

Oh I agree, but Texas at #2 is a joke.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think Texas should be #2. They have a pretty good shot at winning the league next year.

[DQ12]

Pretty spot on actually.

Oh hush. 

[Andy]

the title of this thread has officially become completely irrelevant

[EMAW4life-JHL]

theres no reaosn KSU should be lower than 3rd or 4th in the pre season outlook next year.
OU and UT will always be 1,2 and WV looks GOOD for next year.
If we can beat OU, then I think we go 11-1 or 12-0.

[Rams]

Pretty spot on actually.

You really think Baylor with no RGIII will be better than us next year?  Don't be dumb.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I would rank the teams

1. OU
2. Texas
3. OSU
4. TCU
5. KSU
6. WVU
7. Baylor
8. Tech
9. ISU
10. KU

But that's just me. I don't really think he's that far off.

[CNS]

I would rank the teams

1. OU
2. Texas
3. OSU
4. TCU
5. KSU
6. WVU
7. Baylor
8. Tech
9. ISU
10. KU

But that's just me. I don't really think he's that far off.

Yeah but w/ TX @6, TCU @2, and WVU @4

[Rage Against the McKee]

Texas is going to be a lot better than many of you guys think. They have the best coach in the league.

[SkinnyBenny]

the title of this thread has officially become completely irrelevant

And still misspelled.   

[pissclams]

the title of this thread has officially become completely irrelevant

And still misspelled.   

rest easy knowing that it wasn't me that made the spelling error, i think steve dave turned my original "gill fired" thread into this master thread

[Dr Rick Daris]

I know the Jayhawks made a coaching change and brought in a solid quarterback, but that's not going to change things overnight. We're talking about a team that only won two games last year, that struggled to score and couldn't stop other teams from scoring to save their life. I like the direction this team is heading in, but there's almost no chance they can win the Big 12 this season.

Odds: +915  

8. Kansas State
Kansas State is returning 14 starters from a team that won 10 games, but what are the chances they're able to do it again this season? I love LHC LHC Bill Snyder as a head coach, but I'm not sure this is a team that will be as competitive as they were a year ago. There are many questions on the offensive and defensive line, and a difficult schedule doesn't help them out either.
Odds: +800  

7. Baylor  
Baylor did lose their Superman quarterback in Robert Griffin, but Nick Florence isn't a bad quarterback at all. In 2009, he completed 62 percent of his passes and threw for six touchdowns. Even last season, when Griffin was taken out of the game due to injury, he completed 75 percent of his passes and two touchdowns.
The problem with this team is their defense. It cost them last year and will likely cost them any shot to repeat the success they experienced last season.
Odds: +725  

6. Texas Tech  
Texas Tech may be the team that would give you the most bang for your buck, as they aren't a bad team at all. They do have a very difficult schedule, but they're a talented team that has a fantastic quarterback in Seth Doege, who threw for over 4,000 yards last season.
They will need several breaks if they expect to win this conference, but I wouldn't count them out, as they have a few pieces that could surprise some people.
Odds: +650  

5. Oklahoma State
Oklahoma State is missing several key pieces from their team last year, and it'll really be difficult to repeat the success they had last season. But they do have a few things going for them, like the fact that eight players are returning on the defensive side of the ball, and they still have running back Joseph Randle carrying the ball for them.
With a few breaks here and there, the Cowboys could be a sleeper team to watch out for next year.
Odds: +500  

4. TCU
TCU was a very young team last season, which means that majority of their team is coming back this season. The key to this team will of course be the defense, which allowed 21.5 points per game last year and will really help them stick out in a conference that isn't known for great defense.
If the Horned Frogs can have a balanced attack like they did last season, they'll have a great shot at winning this conference in their first year.
Odds: +300  

3. West Virginia
If this wasn't the first year that West Virginia was in the Big 12, I may have them at the No. 2 or possibly even No. 1 spot. But we need to see how this team competes against tougher competition before I make them the favorites.
With that said, West Virginia is an extremely talented team, especially on offense led by Geno Smith and all of his weapons to give the football to. Don't be surprised if the Mountaineers end up winning this conference their first year in it.
Odds: +150  

2. Texas  
Texas may have had a couple of sub-par seasons, but they remain one of the most talented teams in the country. They're returning 16 starters, including nine players on the offensive side of the ball. They also have a favorable schedule, getting West Virginia and TCU at home.
If this team can find some consistency at the quarterback position, they'll have a fantastic shot at winning this conference.
Odds: +100  

1. Oklahoma
The Oklahoma Sooners have to be the early favorites to win the Big 12. After all, they do have the most talented team, the best quarterback in Landry Jones and one of the top running backs in Dominique Whaley.
This is a team that's returning a total of 15 starters, and they are eager to prove the critics wrong after falling apart at the end of last season.
It won't be a cakewalk for the Sooners this year, but they should be the pick to win this conference.
Odds: -100  

Randy Chambers is a B/R featured columnist that covers college football and the NFL. You can contact him @Randy_Chambers or [email protected].

DOESN'T LOOK GOOD FOR US!  

i like how everybody in the conference has to play everybody else in the conference but somehow both kstate and tech have difficult conference schedules that could keep them from winning the conference.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I know the Jayhawks made a coaching change and brought in a solid quarterback, but that's not going to change things overnight. We're talking about a team that only won two games last year, that struggled to score and couldn't stop other teams from scoring to save their life. I like the direction this team is heading in, but there's almost no chance they can win the Big 12 this season.

Odds: +915  

8. Kansas State
Kansas State is returning 14 starters from a team that won 10 games, but what are the chances they're able to do it again this season? I love LHC LHC Bill Snyder as a head coach, but I'm not sure this is a team that will be as competitive as they were a year ago. There are many questions on the offensive and defensive line, and a difficult schedule doesn't help them out either.
Odds: +800  

7. Baylor  
Baylor did lose their Superman quarterback in Robert Griffin, but Nick Florence isn't a bad quarterback at all. In 2009, he completed 62 percent of his passes and threw for six touchdowns. Even last season, when Griffin was taken out of the game due to injury, he completed 75 percent of his passes and two touchdowns.
The problem with this team is their defense. It cost them last year and will likely cost them any shot to repeat the success they experienced last season.
Odds: +725  

6. Texas Tech  
Texas Tech may be the team that would give you the most bang for your buck, as they aren't a bad team at all. They do have a very difficult schedule, but they're a talented team that has a fantastic quarterback in Seth Doege, who threw for over 4,000 yards last season.
They will need several breaks if they expect to win this conference, but I wouldn't count them out, as they have a few pieces that could surprise some people.
Odds: +650  

5. Oklahoma State
Oklahoma State is missing several key pieces from their team last year, and it'll really be difficult to repeat the success they had last season. But they do have a few things going for them, like the fact that eight players are returning on the defensive side of the ball, and they still have running back Joseph Randle carrying the ball for them.
With a few breaks here and there, the Cowboys could be a sleeper team to watch out for next year.
Odds: +500  

4. TCU
TCU was a very young team last season, which means that majority of their team is coming back this season. The key to this team will of course be the defense, which allowed 21.5 points per game last year and will really help them stick out in a conference that isn't known for great defense.
If the Horned Frogs can have a balanced attack like they did last season, they'll have a great shot at winning this conference in their first year.
Odds: +300  

3. West Virginia
If this wasn't the first year that West Virginia was in the Big 12, I may have them at the No. 2 or possibly even No. 1 spot. But we need to see how this team competes against tougher competition before I make them the favorites.
With that said, West Virginia is an extremely talented team, especially on offense led by Geno Smith and all of his weapons to give the football to. Don't be surprised if the Mountaineers end up winning this conference their first year in it.
Odds: +150  

2. Texas  
Texas may have had a couple of sub-par seasons, but they remain one of the most talented teams in the country. They're returning 16 starters, including nine players on the offensive side of the ball. They also have a favorable schedule, getting West Virginia and TCU at home.
If this team can find some consistency at the quarterback position, they'll have a fantastic shot at winning this conference.
Odds: +100  

1. Oklahoma
The Oklahoma Sooners have to be the early favorites to win the Big 12. After all, they do have the most talented team, the best quarterback in Landry Jones and one of the top running backs in Dominique Whaley.
This is a team that's returning a total of 15 starters, and they are eager to prove the critics wrong after falling apart at the end of last season.
It won't be a cakewalk for the Sooners this year, but they should be the pick to win this conference.
Odds: -100  

Randy Chambers is a B/R featured columnist that covers college football and the NFL. You can contact him @Randy_Chambers or [email protected].

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i like how everybody in the conference has to play everybody else in the conference but somehow both kstate and tech have difficult conference schedules that could keep them from winning the conference.

The only thing I can think of is that some teams get 5 home games and other teams get 4.

[Dugout DickStone]

Should we volunteer to play in Lawrence for a 3rd year in a row?  They keep getting closer in the score, it would give lil bro a marquee matchup and a boost at the gate when the rich KSU fans take the stadium over.  Just a thought, I hate to see them this far down and we do just as well in Lawrence as Manhattan.

[420seriouscat69]

Should we volunteer to play in Lawrence for a 3rd year in a row?  They keep getting closer in the score, it would give lil bro a marquee matchup and a boost at the gate when the rich KSU fans take the stadium over.  Just a thought, I hate to see them this far down and we do just as well in Lawrence as Manhattan.

LHC Bill Snyder Family Stadium East 

[0.42]

Texas is going to be a lot better than many of you guys think. They have the best coach in the league.

 

[purplenutz]

I know the Jayhawks made a coaching change and brought in a solid quarterback, but that's not going to change things overnight. We're talking about a team that only won two games last year, that struggled to score and couldn't stop other teams from scoring to save their life. I like the direction this team is heading in, but there's almost no chance they can win the Big 12 this season.

Odds: +915  

8. Kansas State
Kansas State is returning 14 starters from a team that won 10 games, but what are the chances they're able to do it again this season? I love LHC LHC Bill Snyder as a head coach, but I'm not sure this is a team that will be as competitive as they were a year ago. There are many questions on the offensive and defensive line, and a difficult schedule doesn't help them out either.
Odds: +800  

7. Baylor  
Baylor did lose their Superman quarterback in Robert Griffin, but Nick Florence isn't a bad quarterback at all. In 2009, he completed 62 percent of his passes and threw for six touchdowns. Even last season, when Griffin was taken out of the game due to injury, he completed 75 percent of his passes and two touchdowns.
The problem with this team is their defense. It cost them last year and will likely cost them any shot to repeat the success they experienced last season.
Odds: +725  

6. Texas Tech  
Texas Tech may be the team that would give you the most bang for your buck, as they aren't a bad team at all. They do have a very difficult schedule, but they're a talented team that has a fantastic quarterback in Seth Doege, who threw for over 4,000 yards last season.
They will need several breaks if they expect to win this conference, but I wouldn't count them out, as they have a few pieces that could surprise some people.
Odds: +650  

5. Oklahoma State
Oklahoma State is missing several key pieces from their team last year, and it'll really be difficult to repeat the success they had last season. But they do have a few things going for them, like the fact that eight players are returning on the defensive side of the ball, and they still have running back Joseph Randle carrying the ball for them.
With a few breaks here and there, the Cowboys could be a sleeper team to watch out for next year.
Odds: +500  

4. TCU
TCU was a very young team last season, which means that majority of their team is coming back this season. The key to this team will of course be the defense, which allowed 21.5 points per game last year and will really help them stick out in a conference that isn't known for great defense.
If the Horned Frogs can have a balanced attack like they did last season, they'll have a great shot at winning this conference in their first year.
Odds: +300  

3. West Virginia
If this wasn't the first year that West Virginia was in the Big 12, I may have them at the No. 2 or possibly even No. 1 spot. But we need to see how this team competes against tougher competition before I make them the favorites.
With that said, West Virginia is an extremely talented team, especially on offense led by Geno Smith and all of his weapons to give the football to. Don't be surprised if the Mountaineers end up winning this conference their first year in it.
Odds: +150  

2. Texas  
Texas may have had a couple of sub-par seasons, but they remain one of the most talented teams in the country. They're returning 16 starters, including nine players on the offensive side of the ball. They also have a favorable schedule, getting West Virginia and TCU at home.
If this team can find some consistency at the quarterback position, they'll have a fantastic shot at winning this conference.
Odds: +100  

1. Oklahoma
The Oklahoma Sooners have to be the early favorites to win the Big 12. After all, they do have the most talented team, the best quarterback in Landry Jones and one of the top running backs in Dominique Whaley.
This is a team that's returning a total of 15 starters, and they are eager to prove the critics wrong after falling apart at the end of last season.
It won't be a cakewalk for the Sooners this year, but they should be the pick to win this conference.
Odds: -100  

Randy Chambers is a B/R featured columnist that covers college football and the NFL. You can contact him @Randy_Chambers or [email protected].

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I get the love fest with Texas every year, 5* recruiting classes.  It usually turns out more of a love fist than fest though.

[Katpappy]

I know the Jayhawks made a coaching change and brought in a solid quarterback, but that's not going to change things overnight. We're talking about a team that only won two games last year, that struggled to score and couldn't stop other teams from scoring to save their life. I like the direction this team is heading in, but there's almost no chance they can win the Big 12 this season.

Odds: +915  

8. Kansas State
Kansas State is returning 14 starters from a team that won 10 games, but what are the chances they're able to do it again this season? I love LHC LHC Bill Snyder as a head coach, but I'm not sure this is a team that will be as competitive as they were a year ago. There are many questions on the offensive and defensive line, and a difficult schedule doesn't help them out either.
Odds: +800  

7. Baylor  
Baylor did lose their Superman quarterback in Robert Griffin, but Nick Florence isn't a bad quarterback at all. In 2009, he completed 62 percent of his passes and threw for six touchdowns. Even last season, when Griffin was taken out of the game due to injury, he completed 75 percent of his passes and two touchdowns.
The problem with this team is their defense. It cost them last year and will likely cost them any shot to repeat the success they experienced last season.
Odds: +725  

6. Texas Tech  
Texas Tech may be the team that would give you the most bang for your buck, as they aren't a bad team at all. They do have a very difficult schedule, but they're a talented team that has a fantastic quarterback in Seth Doege, who threw for over 4,000 yards last season.
They will need several breaks if they expect to win this conference, but I wouldn't count them out, as they have a few pieces that could surprise some people.
Odds: +650  

5. Oklahoma State
Oklahoma State is missing several key pieces from their team last year, and it'll really be difficult to repeat the success they had last season. But they do have a few things going for them, like the fact that eight players are returning on the defensive side of the ball, and they still have running back Joseph Randle carrying the ball for them.
With a few breaks here and there, the Cowboys could be a sleeper team to watch out for next year.
Odds: +500  

4. TCU
TCU was a very young team last season, which means that majority of their team is coming back this season. The key to this team will of course be the defense, which allowed 21.5 points per game last year and will really help them stick out in a conference that isn't known for great defense.
If the Horned Frogs can have a balanced attack like they did last season, they'll have a great shot at winning this conference in their first year.
Odds: +300  

3. West Virginia
If this wasn't the first year that West Virginia was in the Big 12, I may have them at the No. 2 or possibly even No. 1 spot. But we need to see how this team competes against tougher competition before I make them the favorites.
With that said, West Virginia is an extremely talented team, especially on offense led by Geno Smith and all of his weapons to give the football to. Don't be surprised if the Mountaineers end up winning this conference their first year in it.
Odds: +150  

2. Texas  
Texas may have had a couple of sub-par seasons, but they remain one of the most talented teams in the country. They're returning 16 starters, including nine players on the offensive side of the ball. They also have a favorable schedule, getting West Virginia and TCU at home.
If this team can find some consistency at the quarterback position, they'll have a fantastic shot at winning this conference.
Odds: +100  

1. Oklahoma
The Oklahoma Sooners have to be the early favorites to win the Big 12. After all, they do have the most talented team, the best quarterback in Landry Jones and one of the top running backs in Dominique Whaley.
This is a team that's returning a total of 15 starters, and they are eager to prove the critics wrong after falling apart at the end of last season.
It won't be a cakewalk for the Sooners this year, but they should be the pick to win this conference.
Odds: -100  

Randy Chambers is a B/R featured columnist that covers college football and the NFL. You can contact him @Randy_Chambers or [email protected].

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i like how everybody in the conference has to play everybody else in the conference but somehow both kstate and tech have difficult conference schedules that could keep them from winning the conference.

Rick, the answer is blowing in the wind.  They get to play us and since we are rated at marshmallow soft, their schedule is easier. 

[kostakio]

I know the Jayhawks made a coaching change and brought in a solid quarterback, but that's not going to change things overnight. We're talking about a team that only won two games last year, that struggled to score and couldn't stop other teams from scoring to save their life. I like the direction this team is heading in, but there's almost no chance they can win the Big 12 this season.

Odds: +915  

8. Kansas State
Kansas State is returning 14 starters from a team that won 10 games, but what are the chances they're able to do it again this season? I love LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder as a head coach, but I'm not sure this is a team that will be as competitive as they were a year ago. There are many questions on the offensive and defensive line, and a difficult schedule doesn't help them out either.
Odds: +800  

7. Baylor  
Baylor did lose their Superman quarterback in Robert Griffin, but Nick Florence isn't a bad quarterback at all. In 2009, he completed 62 percent of his passes and threw for six touchdowns. Even last season, when Griffin was taken out of the game due to injury, he completed 75 percent of his passes and two touchdowns.
The problem with this team is their defense. It cost them last year and will likely cost them any shot to repeat the success they experienced last season.
Odds: +725  

6. Texas Tech  
Texas Tech may be the team that would give you the most bang for your buck, as they aren't a bad team at all. They do have a very difficult schedule, but they're a talented team that has a fantastic quarterback in Seth Doege, who threw for over 4,000 yards last season.
They will need several breaks if they expect to win this conference, but I wouldn't count them out, as they have a few pieces that could surprise some people.
Odds: +650  

5. Oklahoma State
Oklahoma State is missing several key pieces from their team last year, and it'll really be difficult to repeat the success they had last season. But they do have a few things going for them, like the fact that eight players are returning on the defensive side of the ball, and they still have running back Joseph Randle carrying the ball for them.
With a few breaks here and there, the Cowboys could be a sleeper team to watch out for next year.
Odds: +500  

4. TCU
TCU was a very young team last season, which means that majority of their team is coming back this season. The key to this team will of course be the defense, which allowed 21.5 points per game last year and will really help them stick out in a conference that isn't known for great defense.
If the Horned Frogs can have a balanced attack like they did last season, they'll have a great shot at winning this conference in their first year.
Odds: +300  

3. West Virginia
If this wasn't the first year that West Virginia was in the Big 12, I may have them at the No. 2 or possibly even No. 1 spot. But we need to see how this team competes against tougher competition before I make them the favorites.
With that said, West Virginia is an extremely talented team, especially on offense led by Geno Smith and all of his weapons to give the football to. Don't be surprised if the Mountaineers end up winning this conference their first year in it.
Odds: +150  

2. Texas  
Texas may have had a couple of sub-par seasons, but they remain one of the most talented teams in the country. They're returning 16 starters, including nine players on the offensive side of the ball. They also have a favorable schedule, getting West Virginia and TCU at home.
If this team can find some consistency at the quarterback position, they'll have a fantastic shot at winning this conference.
Odds: +100  

1. Oklahoma
The Oklahoma Sooners have to be the early favorites to win the Big 12. After all, they do have the most talented team, the best quarterback in Landry Jones and one of the top running backs in Dominique Whaley.
This is a team that's returning a total of 15 starters, and they are eager to prove the critics wrong after falling apart at the end of last season.
It won't be a cakewalk for the Sooners this year, but they should be the pick to win this conference.
Odds: -100  

Randy Chambers is a B/R featured columnist that covers college football and the NFL. You can contact him @Randy_Chambers or [email protected].

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LOL only K-State can finish second in the leauge one year and have more starters coming back then just about anyone else and be picked 8th preseason to start the following season.  He's not sure we'll be as competitive  as we were a year ago?   I think going 7-2 is a little more then being competitive, Iowa State was competitive last season.