Our BCS Chances

[TheHamburglar]

Even if the Nubbs win out, there is no way in hell they sneak into a BCS at-large spot with 2 losses (including Northwestern at home?!) and without even winning their division.

Everyone needs to root for Michigan this weekend just to ensure they stay the eff out.

A 10-2 NU team that's got even a remotely legitimate claim to a BCS invite could get it due to the 85,000 tickets they'd buy at $500 a pop.

Then, by that logic, wouldn't Michigan be in just as good a position to snag an at-large if they beat NU? The Big 10 is not going to get 2 teams into the BCS this year. Not going to happen.

At this time I would tend to agree with you.  Right now it looks like the probable at large bids will be Houston, Stanford, OU, and Alabama.  However there are multiple scenarios that individually are not probable, but collectively might be 50/50 that one of them happens and would allow the Nub/Michigan winner in.  Those are if Tulsa knocks off Houston, OU loses to Baylor and OSU, or Stanford loses to Notre Dame.  If any of those happen it opens up a spot for the BigTen.  If Stanford loses to ND the Fiesta would pick a 2-loss Nub over a 2-loss Stanford to play OU, or if OU loses this weekend to Baylor they would probably pick a 2-loss Michigan or Nub over a 2-loss KSU to play Stanford.

[Katpappy]

[SkinnyBenny]

Just tell me who to cheer for to make this ridiculously impossible scenario at least 1% possible.

[TheHamburglar]

Just tell me who to cheer for to make this ridiculously impossible scenario at least 1% possible.

Tulsa to beat Houston, Cal to beat Stanford, Notre Dame to beat Stanford, South Carolina to beat Clemson, Baylor to beat OU, Ohio State to beat Michigan, Iowa to beat Nebraska, and probably Michigan to beat Nebraska.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Just tell me who to cheer for to make this ridiculously impossible scenario at least 1% possible.

Baylor.
OSU.
Cal.
Notre Dame.
SMU.
Tulsa.
Michigan (but only this Saturday)
Iowa.
Ohio State.

That should do it.

[hemmy]

Just tell me who to cheer for to make this ridiculously impossible scenario at least 1% possible.

Tulsa to beat Houston, Cal to beat Stanford, Notre Dame to beat Stanford, South Carolina to beat Clemson, Baylor to beat OU, Ohio State to beat Michigan, Iowa to beat Nebraska, and probably Michigan to beat Nebraska.

SC > Clemson does absolutely nothing. Clemson is already locked in the ACC championship game.

[OregonSmock]

12-1?  No

BCS Bowl?  No

Cover of Sports Illustrated?  No

National Coach of the Year?  Maybe

[SkinnyBenny]

'grats, pepperjax.   

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

12-1?  No

BCS Bowl?  No

Cover of Sports Illustrated?  No

Won a division?  No.

Won the Big 12?  No.

Used the bounty of one decent team paired with one incredibly lucky schedule as a springboard for future sustained success?  No.

[Brock Landers]

Did he really just list being on the cover of Sports Illustrated as a significant accomplishment?  LOL.  How quaint.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

12-1?  No

BCS Bowl?  No

Cover of Sports Illustrated?  No

National Coach of the Year?  Maybe

And they lost to Mizzou the next game after the cover and didn't make the Dr Pepper.

[wetwillie]

Can't believe people can't just admit KU had a great team their orange bowl year. What a strange thing to be butthurt about.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Can't believe people can't just admit KU had a great team their orange bowl year. What a strange thing to be butthurt about.

Because they didn't. They had a good team with a great schedule. They lost to the first great team they played that year.

[kso_FAN]

12-1?  No

BCS Bowl?  No

Cover of Sports Illustrated?  No

National Coach of the Year?  Maybe

Give this K-State a schedule where only one regular season opponent finishes with fewer than 6 losses (and you got beat) and its likely they go 11-1 too. The win over VT was pretty solid though.

[TheHamburglar]

Just tell me who to cheer for to make this ridiculously impossible scenario at least 1% possible.

Tulsa to beat Houston, Cal to beat Stanford, Notre Dame to beat Stanford, South Carolina to beat Clemson, Baylor to beat OU, Ohio State to beat Michigan, Iowa to beat Nebraska, and probably Michigan to beat Nebraska.

SC > Clemson does absolutely nothing. Clemson is already locked in the ACC championship game.

That's not why I said that.  I have no idea what the odds of a 2-loss Clemson team getting an at-large bid if they lose the ACC championship game, but they are currently #7 in the BCS and I don't know if they would drop below us with a loss in the ACC championship game.  I also know they consistently fill a 81,000 seat stadium, so they may actually travel pretty well if given the BCS opportunity.  It wouldn't hurt to add another loss to the ACC to hurt their BCS rankings.  I know odds of the ACC getting an at-large bid are like 2%, but a Clemson loss to South Carolina would drop it to 0% while helping KSU to possibly gain a spot in the BCS rankings and increase their profile.  I know that this is by far the least important game to KSU that I listed, but eliminating another possible at-large team, even if their chances are only 2% to begin with doesn't hurt. 

It also serves 1 more purpose.  A South Carolina loss would drop them out of the top 14 and top 16, but a win would keep them in it.  This helps us 2 ways.  1) It keeps 1 more team in the top 14 pool of at-large teams that can't get an at-large bid because their conference has already maxed out their participants.  2)  In the event that Houston loses it may open up the possibility of TCU sliding into that no-AQ, top 16 auto bid slot.  South Carolina winning this game keeps them above TCU and adding 1 more spot for TCU to have to jump in the case that Houston loses to take up an at-large bid.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

12-1?  No

BCS Bowl?  No

Cover of Sports Illustrated?  No

National Coach of the Year?  Maybe

Give this K-State a schedule where only one regular season opponent finishes with fewer than 6 losses (and you got beat) and its likely they go 11-1 too. The win over VT was pretty solid though.

Exactly.

[DQ12]

Being a bowl rep would be so sweet. 

[EllToPay]

12-1?  No

BCS Bowl?  No

Cover of Sports Illustrated?  No

National Coach of the Year?  Maybe

grats, beems. hopefully our program in three years won't be the worst in america like yours is. but 'grats, though.

[SkinnyBenny]

Give this K-State a schedule where only one regular season opponent finishes with fewer than 6 losses (and you got beat) and its likely they go 11-1 too. The win over VT was pretty solid though.

No way man, SELa was just as good in 2007 as Oklahoma or Oklahoma State is this year.




Goddammit.  You guys have gone and gotten me all excited that we're gonna go BCS, even though I know we won't.  Now I'm gonna be disappointed if we go Cotton.    BCS question, though: other than the fact that OU went to the Fiesta Bowl last year, why would we be even close to as attractive as the Sooners in any way?

[pike]

Cause a 10-2 K-State doesn't happen every year like it does for OU, and they lose the Fiesta bowl every year anyway.

This assumes we win out obviously. If not then mods delete thread thx bye.

[GoodForAnother]

OU fans are tired of the Fiesta, they go there too much.  Fiesta knows that nerdy-ass KSU fans like us will buy like 1.7 million tickets and camp outside in the rain to get in.

[SkinnyBenny]

But could we really garner better ratings than OU?  Isn't that really the only thing they give a crap about?

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Give this K-State a schedule where only one regular season opponent finishes with fewer than 6 losses (and you got beat) and its likely they go 11-1 too. The win over VT was pretty solid though.

No way man, SELa was just as good in 2007 as Oklahoma or Oklahoma State is this year.




Goddammit.  You guys have gone and gotten me all excited that we're gonna go BCS, even though I know we won't.  Now I'm gonna be disappointed if we go Cotton.    BCS question, though: other than the fact that OU went to the Fiesta Bowl last year, why would we be even close to as attractive as the Sooners in any way?

Fan excitement. They know we will bring 30k-50k whereas OU fans may be disappointed and ho-hum about another trip to the Fiesta. Its all about what the fan base can bring to the local economy.

[The3ears]

But could we really garner better ratings than OU?  Isn't that really the only thing they give a crap about?

If OU lose to Baylor & OSU, they have 3 loses and very likely be out of the top 14, should be lower than us if we win out.

[Katpappy]

But could we really garner better ratings than OU?  Isn't that really the only thing they give a crap about?

If OU lose to Baylor & OSU, they have 3 loses and very likely be out of the top 14, should be lower than us if we win out.

Jesus eff, what part of FAIRYLAND are you from.