Fire John Currie

[AzCat]

Fire John Currie

AzCat: Light years ahead of the curve, as always.   

[steve dave]

So, it is already guaranteed that Currie has either cost us:

a)  Frank Martin - Frank leaves, speaks for itself.
b)  Hundreds of thousands of dollars a year - What could we have locked Frank up for at the end of last season?  Beginning of this season?  When he slapped Merys?  We aren't made of money you dumbf^ck! 

[ArchE_Cat]

So, it is already guaranteed that Currie has either cost us:

a)  Frank Martin - Frank leaves, speaks for itself.
b)  Hundreds of thousands of dollars a year - What could we have locked Frank up for at the end of last season?  Beginning of this season?  When he slapped Merys?  We aren't made of money you dumbf^ck! 

I never realized how much you luv keitz

[steve dave]

So, it is already guaranteed that Currie has either cost us:

a)  Frank Martin - Frank leaves, speaks for itself.
b)  Hundreds of thousands of dollars a year - What could we have locked Frank up for at the end of last season?  Beginning of this season?  When he slapped Merys?  We aren't made of money you dumbf^ck!  

I never realized how much you luv keitz

Have never listened to him.  I live in Omaha bro   If he said what I just said he's pretty smart though.

[kso_FAN]

So, it is already guaranteed that Currie has either cost us:

a)  Frank Martin - Frank leaves, speaks for itself.
b)  Hundreds of thousands of dollars a year - What could we have locked Frank up for at the end of last season?  Beginning of this season?  When he slapped Merys?  We aren't made of money you dumbf^ck!  

Point b is pretty meh.

Could've saved us some, but having him signed up below market value means very little, he could still leave for more money.  Probably just the glass is half full in me, but getting Frank to sign at closer to his real market value after he's proven himself may give a slight chance he intends to stay at K-State longer.  Very slight, but still.

[WillieWatanabe]

So, it is already guaranteed that Currie has either cost us:

a)  Frank Martin - Frank leaves, speaks for itself.
b)  Hundreds of thousands of dollars a year - What could we have locked Frank up for at the end of last season?  Beginning of this season?  When he slapped Merys?  We aren't made of money you dumbf^ck!  

Point b is pretty meh.

Could've saved us some, but having him signed up below market value means very little, he could still leave for more money.  Probably just the glass is half full in me, but getting Frank to sign at closer to his real market value after he's proven himself may give a slight chance he intends to stay at K-State longer.  Very slight, but still.

This is how i feel. However, i think this is because for some reason, if everyone on this board rails on a guy, i automatically want to defend the guy. I dunno why i do that. Weird quality of mine.

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

So, it is already guaranteed that Currie has either cost us:

a)  Frank Martin - Frank leaves, speaks for itself.
b)  Hundreds of thousands of dollars a year - What could we have locked Frank up for at the end of last season?  Beginning of this season?  When he slapped Merys?  We aren't made of money you dumbf^ck! 

Point b is pretty meh.

Could've saved us some, but having him signed up below market value means very little, he could still leave for more money.  Probably just the glass is half full in me, but getting Frank to sign at closer to his real market value after he's proven himself may give a slight chance he intends to stay at K-State longer.  Very slight, but still.

I agree if Currie had raised Frank's salary after last year, we still would need to raise it again this year, because Frank raised his value again.  (Unless we had boosted it to like $1.5m after last season, which would've been stupid also.)  I'm pretty sure Currie saved KSU money by having Frank work this year for his present salary.

EDIT: This only really matters if Currie successfully signs Frank to a new contract.  Obviously if we lose Frank as coach, that's very problematic for KSU's finances...

This is exactly what happened in the situation with Huggins and Weiser.

I don't see a parallel at all.  Just an IMO, but I think Huggins would've left for his alma mater unless we offered him a ridiculous above-market-value salary.

[Stupid Fitz]

Just more proof that we can never have nice things, even when they are ours for the taking. At least we have LHC Bill Snyder. 

[SleepFighter]

As long as Currie hasn't royally pissed Frank off we're fine.

[ArchE_Cat]

Just more proof that we can never have nice things, even when they are ours for the taking. At least we have LHC Bill Snyder Arthur Brown. 

fyp

[ArchE_Cat]

As long as Currie hasn't royally pissed Frank off we're fine.

also it helps if our donors turn out to not be racists

[sys]

saving money on bball coaching salaries is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)'s gold.

[WildcatNkilt]

saving money on bball coaching salaries is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)'s gold.

No joke.  Keeping a good coach is going to bring more money than we have ever seen into the program.

Kansas State merchandise sales have been down since 2003.  I'm sure Varney's and the like have been  the past few months and are  at the thought of Frank leaving.

[felix rex]

I can't even believe that Frank would leave.  My soul would be crushed.

Yeah, I would pretty much give up if that happened.

[Andy]

I agree if Currie had raised Frank's salary after last year, we still would need to raise it again this year, because Frank raised his value again.  (Unless we had boosted it to like $1.5m after last season, which would've been stupid also.)  I'm pretty sure Currie saved KSU money by having Frank work this year for his present salary.

its at least worth noting.  but we know the preseason offer was totally lowball anyway so maybe it saves like 100k or whatever the offered raise for him and the staff was. 

i not gonna believe anything was calculated really on either side though.    just get this done dammit!

[kso_FAN]

Frank's talking point about not being selfish and not having time to talk about it is pure gold.  Like he would be spending hours on the fine print.  He has a list of what he wants that he's given to Katz and is letting him handle it.  It does sound great to get those points out in public though, and further show his pwnage of Currie.

[ArchE_Cat]

Frank's talking point about not being selfish and not having time to talk about it is pure gold.  Like he would be spending hours on the fine print.  He has a list of what he wants that he's given to Katz and is letting him handle it.  It does sound great to get those points out in public though, and further show his pwnage of Currie.

Basically Frank is saying, "this is what it is going to take to keep this program at this level or better, no matter who the coach is." If Currie is unable to keep Frank around then he is gone. And unless Currie is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) he knows this too.

[WildcatNkilt]

All this falls into the "You have to spend money to get money" type of business.  Currie needs to spend money on Frank to further the success of the athletic program, which will in turn bring in the money he currently does not have. 

Kinda like starting your own business.  You'll go broke before you go rich.

[deputy dawg]

There is nothing preventing Currie from paying Frank retroactively, and can't help but think that Frank and Currie know this.  Is Frank really going to walk on the team returning next year?  I doubt it.  After that, who knows?  Better keep Dalonte around--that's going to have to be a priority too.

[WillieWatanabe]

There is nothing preventing Currie from paying Frank retroactively, and can't help but think that Frank and Currie know this.  Is Frank really going to walk on the team returning next year?  I doubt it.  After that, who knows?  Better keep Dalonte around--that's going to have to be a priority too.

The keep 'Te talk is kinda overrated imo.

[hillwalking03]

There is nothing preventing Currie from paying Frank retroactively, and can't help but think that Frank and Currie know this.  Is Frank really going to walk on the team returning next year?  I doubt it.  After that, who knows?  Better keep Dalonte around--that's going to have to be a priority too.

The keep 'Te talk is kinda overrated imo.

You guys better lock him up before your sister school gets all incestry and comes a courtin'. 

[sys]

There is nothing preventing Currie from paying Frank retroactively, and can't help but think that Frank and Currie know this.  Is Frank really going to walk on the team returning next year?  I doubt it.  After that, who knows?  Better keep Dalonte around--that's going to have to be a priority too.

The keep 'Te talk is kinda overrated imo.

more than kind of overrated.


and i can't even tell what the paying martin retroactively comment above is supposed to mean.  wtf?  a comment too stupid to even coherently call Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?

[steve dave]

There is nothing preventing Currie from paying Frank retroactively, and can't help but think that Frank and Currie know this.  Is Frank really going to walk on the team returning next year?  I doubt it.  After that, who knows?  Better keep Dalonte around--that's going to have to be a priority too.

The keep 'Te talk is kinda overrated imo.

more than kind of overrated.


and i can't even tell what the paying martin retroactively comment above is supposed to mean.  wtf?  a comment too stupid to even coherently call Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?

JFC, with the Dalonte stuff again?  He isn't going anywhere d00ds (because nobody wants him for anything near what we're paying him already). 

[deputy dawg]

There is nothing preventing Currie from paying Frank retroactively, and can't help but think that Frank and Currie know this.  Is Frank really going to walk on the team returning next year?  I doubt it.  After that, who knows?  Better keep Dalonte around--that's going to have to be a priority too.

The keep 'Te talk is kinda overrated imo.

more than kind of overrated.


and i can't even tell what the paying martin retroactively comment above is supposed to mean.  wtf?  a comment too stupid to even coherently call Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?

I see you're so experienced in negotiating compensation agreements.  You do know what "Retroactive" means, right?  You also kow that it's a component to over half of renegotiated coaching contracts?  Oh, you don't...because you aren't involved in negotiating compensation agreements.  Better luck with your next post when you write about something you know nothing about.

[ArchE_Cat]

There is nothing preventing Currie from paying Frank retroactively, and can't help but think that Frank and Currie know this.  Is Frank really going to walk on the team returning next year?  I doubt it.  After that, who knows?  Better keep Dalonte around--that's going to have to be a priority too.

The keep 'Te talk is kinda overrated imo.

more than kind of overrated.


and i can't even tell what the paying martin retroactively comment above is supposed to mean.  wtf?  a comment too stupid to even coherently call Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?

I see you're so experienced in negotiating compensation agreements.  You do know what "Retroactive" means, right?  You also kow that it's a component to over half of renegotiated coaching contracts?  Oh, you don't...because you aren't involved in negotiating compensation agreements.  Better luck with your next post when you write about something you know nothing about.

actually it's more likely to be a retention bonus/clause stating that if Frank stays through next year or signs a new deal, then he gets money paid out over installments as long as he stays at KSU.