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Quote from: rick daris on July 23, 2012, 09:04:24 AMlol at anyone that thinks we'll get a single penn state player.WE GOTTA TRY RICK! WE GOTTA!
lol at anyone that thinks we'll get a single penn state player.
Quote from: Limestone on July 23, 2012, 08:25:47 AMQuote from: catzacker on July 23, 2012, 08:14:35 AMQuote from: Pete on July 22, 2012, 10:02:49 PMQuote from: catzacker on July 22, 2012, 08:55:21 PMMaybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.What precedent is there to criminal actions, such as in the case at hand, taken with the intent to bolster an NCAA program? That's what we have here. We have perhaps the most heinous crimes on earth, covered up, to preserve the standing of an NCAA program.How on earth does that fail to fall within area in which the NCAA can act? Penn State can still play football outside of the NCAA. They can still stage football events at their 80K stadium. The NCAA is merely saying that if you choose to wantonly fail to report child rape to protect the image of your program, then you have to pay if you still want to be in the NCAA.Don't like it? Leave the NCAA. Problem solved.yeah, get all that. just questioning whether the ncaa is the correct authoritative body to hand down punishment for this. seems like a court (civil or criminal) and possibly the DOE should be. I just kind of want it to come from a different organization than the one that said "oh, well, ya know, auburn and cam didn't really break any rules, cause, like Cam didn't know and stuff."Well the CIA isn't getting involved and a civil court may tap their money but the football team churns along as if no children were raped.don't disagree with the punishment (or that the institution should be punished), just disagree with the body handing it down.
Quote from: catzacker on July 23, 2012, 08:14:35 AMQuote from: Pete on July 22, 2012, 10:02:49 PMQuote from: catzacker on July 22, 2012, 08:55:21 PMMaybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.What precedent is there to criminal actions, such as in the case at hand, taken with the intent to bolster an NCAA program? That's what we have here. We have perhaps the most heinous crimes on earth, covered up, to preserve the standing of an NCAA program.How on earth does that fail to fall within area in which the NCAA can act? Penn State can still play football outside of the NCAA. They can still stage football events at their 80K stadium. The NCAA is merely saying that if you choose to wantonly fail to report child rape to protect the image of your program, then you have to pay if you still want to be in the NCAA.Don't like it? Leave the NCAA. Problem solved.yeah, get all that. just questioning whether the ncaa is the correct authoritative body to hand down punishment for this. seems like a court (civil or criminal) and possibly the DOE should be. I just kind of want it to come from a different organization than the one that said "oh, well, ya know, auburn and cam didn't really break any rules, cause, like Cam didn't know and stuff."Well the CIA isn't getting involved and a civil court may tap their money but the football team churns along as if no children were raped.
Quote from: Pete on July 22, 2012, 10:02:49 PMQuote from: catzacker on July 22, 2012, 08:55:21 PMMaybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.What precedent is there to criminal actions, such as in the case at hand, taken with the intent to bolster an NCAA program? That's what we have here. We have perhaps the most heinous crimes on earth, covered up, to preserve the standing of an NCAA program.How on earth does that fail to fall within area in which the NCAA can act? Penn State can still play football outside of the NCAA. They can still stage football events at their 80K stadium. The NCAA is merely saying that if you choose to wantonly fail to report child rape to protect the image of your program, then you have to pay if you still want to be in the NCAA.Don't like it? Leave the NCAA. Problem solved.yeah, get all that. just questioning whether the ncaa is the correct authoritative body to hand down punishment for this. seems like a court (civil or criminal) and possibly the DOE should be. I just kind of want it to come from a different organization than the one that said "oh, well, ya know, auburn and cam didn't really break any rules, cause, like Cam didn't know and stuff."
Quote from: catzacker on July 22, 2012, 08:55:21 PMMaybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.What precedent is there to criminal actions, such as in the case at hand, taken with the intent to bolster an NCAA program? That's what we have here. We have perhaps the most heinous crimes on earth, covered up, to preserve the standing of an NCAA program.How on earth does that fail to fall within area in which the NCAA can act? Penn State can still play football outside of the NCAA. They can still stage football events at their 80K stadium. The NCAA is merely saying that if you choose to wantonly fail to report child rape to protect the image of your program, then you have to pay if you still want to be in the NCAA.Don't like it? Leave the NCAA. Problem solved.
Maybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.
Good lord our compliance dept is prolly in overdrive right now.
From what I have read, Penn State did not sign off on this nor did they know in advance. If that is the case, I would bet there will be lawsuits and this will drag on for months/years.
Quote from: dobber on July 23, 2012, 09:16:28 AMFrom what I have read, Penn State did not sign off on this nor did they know in advance. If that is the case, I would bet there will be lawsuits and this will drag on for months/years.Where on earth did you read that?
Quote from: steve dave on July 23, 2012, 09:05:30 AMQuote from: rick daris on July 23, 2012, 09:04:24 AMlol at anyone that thinks we'll get a single penn state player.WE GOTTA TRY RICK! WE GOTTA!Have we offered anyone over the last 2-3 years who chose Penn State? Prolly very few, but start with those guys....use pay phones or Skype.
Quote from: Limestone on July 23, 2012, 09:23:42 AMQuote from: dobber on July 23, 2012, 09:16:28 AMFrom what I have read, Penn State did not sign off on this nor did they know in advance. If that is the case, I would bet there will be lawsuits and this will drag on for months/years.Where on earth did you read that? ESPN (but no source) http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8191027/penn-state-hit-60-million-fine-4-year-bowl-ban-wins-dating-1998Penn State athletics had been given no indication from the NCAA about what sanctions or penalties were to be levied on the department and football program, a source with direct knowledge of the situation in State College told ESPN.com's Andy Katz on Sunday night. If this were a traditional infractions case, the athletic department would have known up to 24 hours in advance.
Penn State, in a statement released less than an hour after the sanctions were revealed, said it will accept them
Quote from: Pete on July 23, 2012, 09:17:23 AMQuote from: steve dave on July 23, 2012, 09:05:30 AMQuote from: rick daris on July 23, 2012, 09:04:24 AMlol at anyone that thinks we'll get a single penn state player.WE GOTTA TRY RICK! WE GOTTA!Have we offered anyone over the last 2-3 years who chose Penn State? Prolly very few, but start with those guys....use pay phones or Skype.we couldn't even get the really good football playing high jumper from emporia and we're less than an hour away, coming of a 10-2 season and employ the best high jumping coach in america. we aren't getting any penn state players.
Hey guys, guess who's the "cross divisional rival" of Nebraska?
What time do you think Currie woke up this morning? Did he even sleep last night or was he too excited?
Quote from: catzacker on July 23, 2012, 08:57:47 AMQuote from: Limestone on July 23, 2012, 08:25:47 AMQuote from: catzacker on July 23, 2012, 08:14:35 AMQuote from: Pete on July 22, 2012, 10:02:49 PMQuote from: catzacker on July 22, 2012, 08:55:21 PMMaybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.What precedent is there to criminal actions, such as in the case at hand, taken with the intent to bolster an NCAA program? That's what we have here. We have perhaps the most heinous crimes on earth, covered up, to preserve the standing of an NCAA program.How on earth does that fail to fall within area in which the NCAA can act? Penn State can still play football outside of the NCAA. They can still stage football events at their 80K stadium. The NCAA is merely saying that if you choose to wantonly fail to report child rape to protect the image of your program, then you have to pay if you still want to be in the NCAA.Don't like it? Leave the NCAA. Problem solved.yeah, get all that. just questioning whether the ncaa is the correct authoritative body to hand down punishment for this. seems like a court (civil or criminal) and possibly the DOE should be. I just kind of want it to come from a different organization than the one that said "oh, well, ya know, auburn and cam didn't really break any rules, cause, like Cam didn't know and stuff."Well the CIA isn't getting involved and a civil court may tap their money but the football team churns along as if no children were raped.don't disagree with the punishment (or that the institution should be punished), just disagree with the body handing it down.Lot's of people hate the NCAA but it might be the only one who has the reach to sap some of their football programs strength. Would you feel better if a civil court started handing out schollie limits and post season bans? I wouldn't
Quote from: Limestone on July 23, 2012, 09:20:47 AMQuote from: catzacker on July 23, 2012, 08:57:47 AMQuote from: Limestone on July 23, 2012, 08:25:47 AMQuote from: catzacker on July 23, 2012, 08:14:35 AMQuote from: Pete on July 22, 2012, 10:02:49 PMQuote from: catzacker on July 22, 2012, 08:55:21 PMMaybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.What precedent is there to criminal actions, such as in the case at hand, taken with the intent to bolster an NCAA program? That's what we have here. We have perhaps the most heinous crimes on earth, covered up, to preserve the standing of an NCAA program.How on earth does that fail to fall within area in which the NCAA can act? Penn State can still play football outside of the NCAA. They can still stage football events at their 80K stadium. The NCAA is merely saying that if you choose to wantonly fail to report child rape to protect the image of your program, then you have to pay if you still want to be in the NCAA.Don't like it? Leave the NCAA. Problem solved.yeah, get all that. just questioning whether the ncaa is the correct authoritative body to hand down punishment for this. seems like a court (civil or criminal) and possibly the DOE should be. I just kind of want it to come from a different organization than the one that said "oh, well, ya know, auburn and cam didn't really break any rules, cause, like Cam didn't know and stuff."Well the CIA isn't getting involved and a civil court may tap their money but the football team churns along as if no children were raped.don't disagree with the punishment (or that the institution should be punished), just disagree with the body handing it down.Lot's of people hate the NCAA but it might be the only one who has the reach to sap some of their football programs strength. Would you feel better if a civil court started handing out schollie limits and post season bans? I wouldn't I'd feel better if the criminal and civil courts (and possibly the department of education or justice department) did their job. I dunno, the ncaa standing on moral high ground is akin to a whore giving a sermon about chastity at church. I find it hollow for them to find their balls now. I guess I am all for burning it all down, starting with the ncaa, then penn state. Maybe chuck norriss could do it.
Quote from: Limestone on July 23, 2012, 09:53:16 AMWhat time do you think Currie woke up this morning? Did he even sleep last night or was he too excited?What do you think would have been more exciting to him? Viewing NCAA oversight at its zenith? Or, knowing he can start dictating policy in regards to pursuing Penn State players within a matter of hours?
Just read that Penn State gets no share of Bowl revenue for 4 years.
I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.
