http://www.amazon.com/Touched-Jerry-Sandusky-Story/dp/1582612706great find
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http://www.amazon.com/Touched-Jerry-Sandusky-Story/dp/1582612706
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Tyler Hughes is jealous of this Sandusky guy. Also, not at all surprised that Joe Pa is a crap human being.LRIQ
http://www.amazon.com/Touched-Jerry-Sandusky-Story/dp/1582612706
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Tyler Hughes is jealous of this Sandusky guy. Also, not at all surprised that Joe Pa is a crap human being.LRIQ
Tyler Hughes is jealous of this Sandusky guy. Also, not at all surprised that Joe Pa is a crap human being.LRIQ
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Sportsbybrooks is tweeting a ton about this right now. Terrible.
Sportsbybrooks is tweeting a ton about this right now. Terrible.
IMO this is the worst sports scandal in our lifetime. Paterno should resign today. It's one thing for him to excuse and cover up his players DUIs, beating people up at parties, and date rape accusations, knowing about child rape in your lockerroom and doing nothing is below scum.
Yeah I know Joe Pa is a powerful figure, but I don't see him making this out if he did something wrong. Charges like this against an AD mean he did something really bad.Sportsbybrooks is tweeting a ton about this right now. Terrible.
IMO this is the worst sports scandal in our lifetime. Paterno should resign today. It's one thing for him to excuse and cover up his players DUIs, beating people up at parties, and date rape accusations, knowing about child rape in your lockerroom and doing nothing is below scum.
Interesting to see what he knew when, but so far the take is that he reported and the AD didn't.
Sportsbybrooks is tweeting a ton about this right now. Terrible.
IMO this is the worst sports scandal in our lifetime. Paterno should resign today. It's one thing for him to excuse and cover up his players DUIs, beating people up at parties, and date rape accusations, knowing about child rape in your lockerroom and doing nothing is below scum.
Interesting to see what he knew when, but so far the take is that he reported and the AD didn't.
Sportsbybrooks is tweeting a ton about this right now. Terrible.
IMO this is the worst sports scandal in our lifetime. Paterno should resign today. It's one thing for him to excuse and cover up his players DUIs, beating people up at parties, and date rape accusations, knowing about child rape in your lockerroom and doing nothing is below scum.
Interesting to see what he knew when, but so far the take is that he reported and the AD didn't.
JoePa let the pedo hang around the team and travel with the team after he was told the pedo raped a kid in the locker room, he isn't getting out of this.
At approximately 9:30 p.m. on March 1, 2002, a Penn State graduate assistant entered what should have been an empty football locker room. He was surprised to hear the showers running and noises he thought sounded like sexual activity, according to a Pennsylvania grand jury “finding of fact” released Saturday.
When he looked in the shower he saw what he estimated to be a 10-year-old boy, hands pressed up against the wall, “being subjected to anal intercourse,” by Jerry Sandusky, then 58 and Penn State’s former defensive coordinator.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=AnSreta0_jaa287pxVXd6ZkcvrYF?slug=dw-wetzel_penn_state_child_sex_case_110511
Interesting to see what he knew when, but so far the take is that he reported and the AD didn't.
JoePa let the pedo hang around the team and travel with the team after he was told the pedo raped a kid in the locker room, he isn't getting out of this.
This story has me rough ridin' enraged.
This story has me rough ridin' enraged.I'm with ya. I just don't understand how JoePa seems to be getting at least a temporary pass on this because he "reported" the incident. rough ridin' bullshit. We're talking about the rape of a child. If you see somebody getting strangled in the parking garage and your only action is to go back inside and tell your boss...and then just kind of forget about it and never ask anybody about it again...you don't deserve to live anymore.
This story has me rough ridin' enraged.I'm with ya. I just don't understand how JoePa seems to be getting at least a temporary pass on this because he "reported" the incident. rough ridin' bullshit. We're talking about the rape of a child. If you see somebody getting strangled in the parking garage and your only action is to go back inside and tell your boss...and then just kind of forget about it and never ask anybody about it again...you don't deserve to live anymore.
sexual addiction is an awful disease
Looking forward to reading about how this guy got his skull crushed on the inside a of a unflushed toilet bowl in prison. FPOS
After he "retired" he started some org called "second mile" for troubled young boys. Unbelievable, that this bad person was able to do something like that when higher ups at Penn State knew what he was doing. They belong in jail right along with him.QuoteAt approximately 9:30 p.m. on March 1, 2002, a Penn State graduate assistant entered what should have been an empty football locker room. He was surprised to hear the showers running and noises he thought sounded like sexual activity, according to a Pennsylvania grand jury “finding of fact” released Saturday.
When he looked in the shower he saw what he estimated to be a 10-year-old boy, hands pressed up against the wall, “being subjected to anal intercourse,” by Jerry Sandusky, then 58 and Penn State’s former defensive coordinator.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=AnSreta0_jaa287pxVXd6ZkcvrYF?slug=dw-wetzel_penn_state_child_sex_case_110511
I have been a supporter of the program for many years. Without a doubt, nobody has touched me as Jerry Sandusky did.
The most disgusting part of this isn't that Joe Pa continued to let that guy cruise around his football program after he knew that he mumped kids, but that they could have literally prevented the rape of additional kids between 2002 and today. The last documented incident with a different kid was in 2009.
Joe Pa, in his statements, admitted that the GA who witnessed the event was shaken up pretty bad...and Joe Pa has the gall to say that he didn't know the exact nature of the allegation? What, like if the dude had been playing a game of "just the tip" or some crap, it would have been permissible to let the pervert use your football program to entertain children? GMAFB.
Looking forward to reading about how this guy got his skull crushed on the inside a of a unflushed toilet bowl in prison. FPOS
After he "retired" he started some org called "second mile" for troubled young boys. Unbelievable, that this bad person was able to do something like that when higher ups at Penn State knew what he was doing. They belong in jail right along with him.QuoteAt approximately 9:30 p.m. on March 1, 2002, a Penn State graduate assistant entered what should have been an empty football locker room. He was surprised to hear the showers running and noises he thought sounded like sexual activity, according to a Pennsylvania grand jury “finding of fact” released Saturday.
When he looked in the shower he saw what he estimated to be a 10-year-old boy, hands pressed up against the wall, “being subjected to anal intercourse,” by Jerry Sandusky, then 58 and Penn State’s former defensive coordinator.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=AnSreta0_jaa287pxVXd6ZkcvrYF?slug=dw-wetzel_penn_state_child_sex_case_110511
Why do they call this "anal intercourse." It is a rough ridin' adult perpetrating sexual violence against a child. Makes me sick to see euphemistic terminology like this.
I know a guy who was a GA during that time. Makes me wonder if he saw anything. He's still on staff today. :eek:
I know a guy who was a GA during that time. Makes me wonder if he saw anything. He's still on staff today. :eek:
Just got confirmation that the guy I know is the guy who was the GA who turned him.
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I know a guy who was a GA during that time. Makes me wonder if he saw anything. He's still on staff today. :eek:
Just got confirmation that the guy I know is the guy who was the GA who turned him.
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Get him to post here.
I know a guy who was a GA during that time. Makes me wonder if he saw anything. He's still on staff today. :eek:
Just got confirmation that the guy I know is the guy who was the GA who turned him.
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I know a guy who was a GA during that time. Makes me wonder if he saw anything. He's still on staff today. :eek:
Just got confirmation that the guy I know is the guy who was the GA who turned him.
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Ask him why the eff he didn't just beat the crap out of the guy right there in the shower. Not trying to be internet tough guy here, but I'd have a hard time just walking away if I walked in on a 60 year old buttfucking a 10 year old.
sexual addiction is an awful diseaseYes :frown:
Not Mike McQueary, the graduate assistant-turned-recruiting coordinator who reportedly witnessed Sandusky rape a young boy in the Penn State locker room in 2002.
I know a guy who was a GA during that time. Makes me wonder if he saw anything. He's still on staff today. :eek:
Just got confirmation that the guy I know is the guy who was the GA who turned him.
:eek: :eek: :eek:
I know a guy who was a GA during that time. Makes me wonder if he saw anything. He's still on staff today. :eek:
Just got confirmation that the guy I know is the guy who was the GA who turned him.
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Mike McQueary?
He's a good dude.......kept his mouth shut.
sounds like his ass needsfiredraped too.
I know a guy who was a GA during that time. Makes me wonder if he saw anything. He's still on staff today. :eek:
Just got confirmation that the guy I know is the guy who was the GA who turned him.
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Mike McQueary?
wasn't going to name him in this thread, but since it's out now, yes.
He's a good dude, it's too bad that his name will be attached to it. There's a reason that he's on the coaching staff, and it's because he has kept his mouth shut. very bad situation to be in.
Let's make this thread about sign ideas for when EMAWgeddon goes to the Nebraska vs. Penn State game.
He did what he was supposed to....he reported it to his boss.
:dunno:
He did what he was supposed to....he reported it to his boss.
:dunno:
He did what he was supposed to....he reported it to his boss.
:dunno:
ARE YOU KIDDING ME??
I see a little boy getting raped, I'm calling 911. Don't see the moral issue there.
He did what he was supposed to....he reported it to his boss.
:dunno:
ARE YOU KIDDING ME??
I see a little boy getting raped, I'm calling 911. Don't see the moral issue there.
He's the least guilty person in this whole story, I don't think he should fry because of it.
He did what he was supposed to....he reported it to his boss.
:dunno:
ARE YOU KIDDING ME??
I see a little boy getting raped, I'm calling 911. Don't see the moral issue there.
He's the least guilty person in this whole story, I don't think he should fry because of it.
Gricar, who went missing in 2005 and declared dead in July, was an introverted man who affiliated himself with few and wasn’t easily swayed by others.
His laptop hard drive, which was found dumped in the Susquehanna River near where his car was parked in Lewisburg, was too badly damaged by water to be read.:horrorsurprise:
WHAT ON EARTH?
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/former_centre_county_da_ray_g.html
He did what he was supposed to....he reported it to his boss.
:dunno:
ARE YOU KIDDING ME??
I see a little boy getting raped, I'm calling 911. Don't see the moral issue there.
He's the least guilty person in this whole story, I don't think he should fry because of it.
Let's make this thread about sign ideas for when EMAWgeddon goes to the Nebraska vs. Penn State game.
THIS YOU GUYS OMG I AM GOING TO PENN STATE THIS WEEKEND
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Let's make this thread about sign ideas for when EMAWgeddon goes to the Nebraska vs. Penn State game.
THIS YOU GUYS OMG I AM GOING TO PENN STATE THIS WEEKEND
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YOU'RE ALL WEIRDOS
ANOTHER
BUTT-RAPED
CHILD
BIG 12: SUPPORTING HEALTHY SEXUAL LIFESTYLES SINCE 2010
Says Millen, "A lot of people were surprised when Jerry said he was retiring. Me? I was surprised he stayed that long. Jerry has so many passions and so many gifts besides coaching football—a gift for teaching, a gift for helping, a gift for guiding kids. This is a man with a lot to do."
or talk.....and then he'd probably end up like this guy.
or talk.....and then he'd probably end up like this guy.
wut?
QuoteHis laptop hard drive, which was found dumped in the Susquehanna River near where his car was parked in Lewisburg, was too badly damaged by water to be read.
or talk.....and then he'd probably end up like this guy.
wut?
a guy that would have destroyed the coach's ass (pun intended) vanished and was declared dead.
GROSS
Maybe understated would work best for a sign.QuoteGROSS
for the record, i am very strongly anti-kid raping. But hey, it happens.
neither should be destroyed because of it.
Maybe understated would work best for a sign.QuoteGROSS
What about just
TOUCHED
for the record, i am very strongly anti-kid raping. But hey, it happens.
neither should be destroyed because of it.
FYP :lol:
In hindsight, he should have called the police
Let's make this thread about sign ideas for when EMAWgeddon goes to the Nebraska vs. Penn State game.
THIS YOU GUYS OMG I AM GOING TO PENN STATE THIS WEEKEND
:eek: :sdeek:
In hindsight, he should have called the police
In rough ridin' forsight. I see a kid getting raped I'm not calling my rough ridin' dad for advice. The eff is the matter with you?
for the record, i am very strongly anti-kid raping.
here's the story...
He witnessed the act.
He called his dad.
His dad said to go to JoePa immediately.
He went to JoePa's house and told him what happened.
JoePa told his boss.
In hindsight, he should have called the police first. Or JoePa should have. But neither should be destroyed because of it.
Never would've thought that some old creepo in Penn fitzing a kid would be the thing that turns the board on OK_Cat. :lol:
In hindsight, he should have called the police
In rough ridin' forsight. I see a kid getting raped I'm not calling my rough ridin' dad for advice. The eff is the matter with you?
I didn't witness a kid getting raped, and i didn't say that he did the right thing. Don't be a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
He was an early 20-something year old kid and he didn't know what to do, so he called his dad. Have you ever seen a kid getting raped in a locker room? I'm sure it's pretty rough ridin' gross and traumatizing.
Have you ever seen a kid getting raped in a locker room? I'm sure it's pretty rough ridin' gross and traumatizing.
What's the O/U on number of days until one of the pieces of crap involved in this deal does everyone a favor and :goodbyecruelworld: ?
imho OK_Cat should also go to prison.
i need someone to die soon so you guys will get off my back, jfc.
He did what he was supposed to....he reported it to his boss.
:dunno:
I didn't witness a kid getting raped, and i didn't say that he did the right thing. Don't be a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
i need someone to die soon so you guys will get off my back, jfc.
I probably would've let you slide if you'd attended some of the paks.
i need someone to die soon so you guys will get off my back, jfc.
I probably would've let you slide if you'd attended some of the paks.
eventually! the wife has really been riding my ass sandusky style.
i need someone to die soon so you guys will get off my back, jfc.
I probably would've let you slide if you'd attended some of the paks.
eventually! the wife has really been riding my ass sandusky style.
:sdeek:
I mean, I was fully on board with the Mama Robinson and Box in a box jokes, but I'm not sure about this one.
i need someone to die soon so you guys will get off my back, jfc.
I probably would've let you slide if you'd attended some of the paks.
eventually! the wife has really been riding my ass sandusky style.
:sdeek:
I mean, I was fully on board with the Mama Robinson and Box in a box jokes, but I'm not sure about this one.
I think it was actually a nice recovery. He was pretty bad earlier.
i need someone to die soon so you guys will get off my back, jfc.
I probably would've let you slide if you'd attended some of the paks.
eventually! the wife has really been riding my ass sandusky style.
:sdeek:
I mean, I was fully on board with the Mama Robinson and Box in a box jokes, but I'm not sure about this one.
I think it was actually a nice recovery. He was pretty bad earlier.
It's a lot harder being on this end of a horrible story. Not going to change how I react to other stories in the future, but damn. I don't really want to defend the guy, but he's not as evil as some of you are trying to make him out to be.
Holy crap! This Mike McQueary should be hung... what an absolute piece of crap. He literally watches a kid get his ass pounded by a 60 year old man and does nothing.
How many more kids were raped because of this crap head? Worthless waste of space if you ask me.
What if this Sandusky character was in the mob? Changes everything.
What if this Sandusky character was in the mob? Changes everything.
That would actually explain the McQueary's initial and following reactions quite a bit if he or his dad knew Sandusky was mafia. It's still not right, but it would explain the logic of his actions a lot more.
Would also make sense with the disappearing DA and destroyed computerWhat if this Sandusky character was in the mob? Changes everything.
That would actually explain the McQueary's initial and following reactions quite a bit if he or his dad knew Sandusky was mafia. It's still not right, but it would explain the logic of his actions a lot more.
that's all i was trying to say in this thread, just didn't say it as well. :dunno:
He did what he was supposed to....he reported it to his boss.
:dunno:
What if this Sandusky character was in the mob? Changes everything.
That would actually explain the McQueary's initial and following reactions quite a bit if he or his dad knew Sandusky was mafia. It's still not right, but it would explain the logic of his actions a lot more.
a majority of the people talking about calling the police wouldn't have. see miligan, stanford prison, bystander, etc. experiments.
nobody is in the rough ridin' mafia. JFC :flush:
i need someone to die soon so you guys will get off my back, jfc.
I probably would've let you slide if you'd attended some of the paks.
eventually! the wife has really been riding my ass sandusky style.
:sdeek:
I mean, I was fully on board with the Mama Robinson and Box in a box jokes, but I'm not sure about this one.
I think it was actually a nice recovery. He was pretty bad earlier.
It's a lot harder being on this end of a horrible story. Not going to change how I react to other stories in the future, but damn. I don't really want to defend the guy, but he's not as evil as some of you are trying to make him out to be.
i need someone to die soon so you guys will get off my back, jfc.
I probably would've let you slide if you'd attended some of the paks.
eventually! the wife has really been riding my ass sandusky style.
:sdeek:
I mean, I was fully on board with the Mama Robinson and Box in a box jokes, but I'm not sure about this one.
I think it was actually a nice recovery. He was pretty bad earlier.
It's a lot harder being on this end of a horrible story. Not going to change how I react to other stories in the future, but damn. I don't really want to defend the guy, but he's not as evil as some of you are trying to make him out to be.
Chose his job under a rape enabler over the safety and well being of kids that he knew for a fact were being raped.
Now I want to see some OK_Cat-related signs at the game.
I am familiar with the sociological studies that chum cites, but I really do believe that I would land in the group that would do a bit more than just give someone a "heads up" if I witnessed a kid getting raped.
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you have got to be rough ridin' kidding me. eff the entire state of PA.
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you have got to be rough ridin' kidding me. eff the entire state of PA.
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How the hell did this get past the editor's desk? I mean, holy crap
you have got to be rough ridin' kidding me. eff the entire state of PA.
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How the hell did this get past the editor's desk? I mean, holy crap
The guy did a ton of charity work before all this was made public. I don't agree with the headline, but it's not as appalling as it looks.
THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF HIS CHARITY WAS TO LURE CHILDREN TO HIM FOR RAPING! WTF IS THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE!?
you have got to be rough ridin' kidding me. eff the entire state of PA.
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How the hell did this get past the editor's desk? I mean, holy crap
The guy did a ton of charity work before all this was made public. I don't agree with the headline, but it's not as appalling as it looks.
THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF HIS CHARITY WAS TO LURE CHILDREN TO HIM FOR RAPING! WTF IS THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE!?
you have got to be rough ridin' kidding me. eff the entire state of PA.
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How the hell did this get past the editor's desk? I mean, holy crap
The guy did a ton of charity work before all this was made public. I don't agree with the headline, but it's not as appalling as it looks.
Paterno needs to quit today.
you have got to be rough ridin' kidding me. eff the entire state of PA.
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How the hell did this get past the editor's desk? I mean, holy crap
The guy did a ton of charity work before all this was made public. I don't agree with the headline, but it's not as appalling as it looks.
I want to start a charity that helps you in some way and then kill you.
jfc, this thread is really separating the normal people from the friends-of-rapists
Meanwhile, on the other end of the spectrum of ridiculousness
SPORTSbyBROOKS SPORTSbyBROOKS
Magnitude of Penn State-Sandusky child sex crimes case such that it represents signpost in history of American culture, and the human race.
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SPORTSbyBROOKS SPORTSbyBROOKS
An opportunity for the living to draw a demarcation line for our ancestors to find in the future. These moments define us.
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There is simply no way to allow Paterno to coach this team or even be involved with the school.
Sandusky has 6 adopted children :sdeek:
Sandusky has 6 adopted children :sdeek:
was a foster parent :sdeek:
you have got to be rough ridin' kidding me. eff the entire state of PA.
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How the hell did this get past the editor's desk? I mean, holy crap
The guy did a ton of charity work before all this was made public. I don't agree with the headline, but it's not as appalling as it looks.
I want to start a charity that helps you in some way and then kill you.
you're completely misunderstanding what I said. I'm 100% anti-sandusky and think the guy is a menace, but before all of this became public, he was seen as some sort of hero in the community. Now there's this.
I'm saying that the paper isn't calling him a hero or making him look heroic in any way.
you're wasting your breath, they don't understand
you have got to be rough ridin' kidding me. eff the entire state of PA.
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How the hell did this get past the editor's desk? I mean, holy crap
The guy did a ton of charity work before all this was made public. I don't agree with the headline, but it's not as appalling as it looks.
I want to start a charity that helps you in some way and then kill you.
you're completely misunderstanding what I said. I'm 100% anti-sandusky and think the guy is a menace, but before all of this became public, he was seen as some sort of hero in the community. Now there's this.
I'm saying that the paper isn't calling him a hero or making him look heroic in any way.
you're wasting your breath, they don't understand
you have got to be rough ridin' kidding me. eff the entire state of PA.
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How the hell did this get past the editor's desk? I mean, holy crap
The guy did a ton of charity work before all this was made public. I don't agree with the headline, but it's not as appalling as it looks.
I want to start a charity that helps you in some way and then kill you.
you're completely misunderstanding what I said. I'm 100% anti-sandusky and think the guy is a menace, but before all of this became public, he was seen as some sort of hero in the community. Now there's this.
I'm saying that the paper isn't calling him a hero or making him look heroic in any way.
you're wasting your breath, they don't understand
Remember, this dude PIITB'd some 10 year olds
Paterno needs to quit today.
Surprised it is taking as long as it is. How sad that these people will take their moral direction on a matter like this from the level of public outcry.
you have got to be rough ridin' kidding me. eff the entire state of PA.
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How the hell did this get past the editor's desk? I mean, holy crap
The guy did a ton of charity work before all this was made public. I don't agree with the headline, but it's not as appalling as it looks.
I want to start a charity that helps you in some way and then kill you.
you're completely misunderstanding what I said. I'm 100% anti-sandusky and think the guy is a menace, but before all of this became public, he was seen as some sort of hero in the community. Now there's this.
I'm saying that the paper isn't calling him a hero or making him look heroic in any way.
you're wasting your breath, they don't understand
Remember, this dude PIITB'd some 10 year olds
Before that became public knowledge, he was a sports hero in the area. don't be so stupid...nobody is calling him a hero now, retards.
Sandusky has 6 adopted children :sdeek:
you have got to be rough ridin' kidding me. eff the entire state of PA.
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How the hell did this get past the editor's desk? I mean, holy crap
The guy did a ton of charity work before all this was made public. I don't agree with the headline, but it's not as appalling as it looks.
I want to start a charity that helps you in some way and then kill you.
you're completely misunderstanding what I said. I'm 100% anti-sandusky and think the guy is a menace, but before all of this became public, he was seen as some sort of hero in the community. Now there's this.
I'm saying that the paper isn't calling him a hero or making him look heroic in any way.
you're wasting your breath, they don't understand
Remember, this dude PIITB'd some 10 year olds
Before that became public knowledge, he was a sports hero in the area. don't be so stupid...nobody is calling him a hero now, retards.
Pretty sure that newspaper is. He's a hero that has fallen.
THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF HIS CHARITY WAS TO LURE CHILDREN TO HIM FOR RAPING! WTF IS THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE!?
it could be read either way depending on whether or not you're ready to get your pitchfork and condemn the entire state.
What a tragedy. Very, very sad.
The headline is fine though. Prior to this, he was perceived as a hero. Nobody, NOBODY, still perceives him as such. Why? Because he has disgraced himself and the university with his heinous actions. Perhaps "disgraced hero" would have been nore appropriate, but this argument over the headline is purely semantics driven.
Had it said something like "former d-coordinator rapes kids" it would have been underselling his prior prestige. He wasn't just some anonymous assistant coach. This guy was linebacker U.. He was a coaching legend who had a very good reputation within his community. Point is, the headline is contrasting his prior perception with his current. Not incredibly difficult to understand.
What a tragedy. Very, very sad.
The headline is fine though. Prior to this, he was perceived as a hero. Nobody, NOBODY, still perceives him as such. Why? Because he has disgraced himself and the university with his heinous actions. Perhaps "disgraced hero" would have been nore appropriate, but this argument over the headline is purely semantics driven.
Had it said something like "former d-coordinator rapes kids" it would have been underselling his prior prestige. He wasn't just some anonymous assistant coach. This guy was linebacker U.. He was a coaching legend who had a very good reputation within his community. Point is, the headline is contrasting his prior perception with his current. Not incredibly difficult to understand.
The headline served its purpose. They probably won't pay in readership for it.
Don't know whether this should go here of the FYBS thread, but the silver lining here is that this effectively kills a tuck classic uniform talking point. I consider this a win for us all.
Yeah, this GA should go to prison as well.
nobody is in the rough ridin' mafia. JFC :flush:
Either way I think calling the butt rough rider of children a "Hero" is pretty disgraceful.
He did what he was supposed to....he reported it to his boss.
:dunno:
ARE YOU KIDDING ME??
I see a little boy getting raped, I'm calling 911. Don't see the moral issue there.
He's the least guilty person in this whole story, I don't think he should fry because of it.
nobody is in the rough ridin' mafia. JFC :flush:
Thank you. I can't believe the crap that I'm reading.
sports by brooks was saying basically the same stuff about an arizona state football player beating up a student in their Union a couple months ago. to say he's a bit of a drama queen is an understatement.
nobody is in the rough ridin' mafia. JFC :flush:
Thank you. I can't believe the crap that I'm reading.
I mean LOFL at the idea of "you never know guys. This dude could have been in the mafia."
He did what he was supposed to....he reported it to his boss.
:dunno:
ARE YOU KIDDING ME??
I see a little boy getting raped, I'm calling 911. Don't see the moral issue there.
He's the least guilty person in this whole story, I don't think he should fry because of it.
OMG :facepalm:
This thought process is a microcosm of what a terrible person you are.
At first, I couldn't decide if this was worse than the Baylor thing, but as more info comes out, this is way worse. Way, way worse.
I mean the scope of this cover up could basically find the entire university's leadership, academically and athletically, culpable in a widespread child sex scheme where a charitable organization was created to funnel children to a sexual predator. I mean, just saying that makes me want to throw up.
I mean, JFC. This is beyond description.
no you wouldn't, dumbassAt first, I couldn't decide if this was worse than the Baylor thing, but as more info comes out, this is way worse. Way, way worse.
I mean the scope of this cover up could basically find the entire university's leadership, academically and athletically, culpable in a widespread child sex scheme where a charitable organization was created to funnel children to a sexual predator. I mean, just saying that makes me want to throw up.
I mean, JFC. This is beyond description.
They had their own Wiener Protection Program going. If I went to PSU, i'd entertain the idea of transferring to something with more class like a junior college.
Probably not. But man this must be embarrassing. I wouldn't wish this upon Nebraska or Mizzou or any other crybaby schools.no you wouldn't, dumbassAt first, I couldn't decide if this was worse than the Baylor thing, but as more info comes out, this is way worse. Way, way worse.
I mean the scope of this cover up could basically find the entire university's leadership, academically and athletically, culpable in a widespread child sex scheme where a charitable organization was created to funnel children to a sexual predator. I mean, just saying that makes me want to throw up.
I mean, JFC. This is beyond description.
They had their own Wiener Protection Program going. If I went to PSU, i'd entertain the idea of transferring to something with more class like a junior college.
any time an adult male human voluntarily spends time with unrelated children naked you should call whatever alternative to the cops you use for justice. it's abnormal behavior.fixed
sorry, trim.
any time an adult male human voluntarily spends time with unrelated children you should call whatever alternative to the cops you use for justice. it's abnormal behavior.
sorry, trim.
cliff notes version anyone? what did Paterno know and when did he know it?
cliff notes version anyone? what did Paterno know and when did he know it?
he knew a long time ago and alleges he told the AD and washed his hands of it while continuing to let the guy stay involved with the program and use the psu facilities as recently as last week. there is currently speculation that he has or is going to throw ok_cat's friend under the bus for not telling him all the details or something like that. the DA said that he fulfilled the bare minimum of his legal responsibility by telling his superior but she flamed him pretty hard for doing nothing else.
:nono:
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/mothers_of_two_of_jerry_sandus.html
cliff notes version anyone? what did Paterno know and when did he know it?
It’s unclear from the presentment if Spanier knew. However, Schultz, who was in charge of the police force, acknowledged knowing about it.
When the mother confronted Sandusky, he said: “I understand. I was wrong. I wish I could get forgiveness. I know I won’t get it from you. I wish I were dead,” according the presentment from the grand jury.
An investigator for Children and Youth Services broke the news to the mother: It was all a big mistake, the mother said she was told. The police officer who investigated won’t comment. Neither will the former police chief.
“Jerry Sandusky admitted to my face, he admitted it,” the mother said. “He admitted that he lathered up my son they were naked and he bear-hugged him. If they would have done something about it in 1998, and then again in 2002 — there was two chances they dropped the ball and I think they should all be held accountable.”
In the beginning, it was extremely upsetting. I was so shocked. It got so bad we didn’t know what to do,” she said. “He is really, really afraid of Jerry. He told me numerous times when he started backing away from him, you just can’t tell him no. I said, why not?”
Her son replied, “You just don’t do that.”
QuoteIt’s unclear from the presentment if Spanier knew. However, Schultz, who was in charge of the police force, acknowledged knowing about it.
When the mother confronted Sandusky, he said: “I understand. I was wrong. I wish I could get forgiveness. I know I won’t get it from you. I wish I were dead,” according the presentment from the grand jury.
An investigator for Children and Youth Services broke the news to the mother: It was all a big mistake, the mother said she was told. The police officer who investigated won’t comment. Neither will the former police chief.
“Jerry Sandusky admitted to my face, he admitted it,” the mother said. “He admitted that he lathered up my son they were naked and he bear-hugged him. If they would have done something about it in 1998, and then again in 2002 — there was two chances they dropped the ball and I think they should all be held accountable.”
In the beginning, it was extremely upsetting. I was so shocked. It got so bad we didn’t know what to do,” she said. “He is really, really afraid of Jerry. He told me numerous times when he started backing away from him, you just can’t tell him no. I said, why not?”
Her son replied, “You just don’t do that.”
JFC
not to birther pit this whole thread.
But it seems like there is a great deal of righteous indignation (deservedly so) over this issue. Including but not limited to sportsbybrooks grandiose interpretations of the incidents societal implications. My question is basically why has the outcry over the catholic church's own sex abuse scandal seemed to pale in the level of outrage and widespread desire for justice.
Hell so of you are seemingly prepared to sentence this ginger GA to life in prison, but wee weem to give a free pass to a religous institution that has experienced far worse abuses. I mean hell the church abuse scandal spans continents and decades and affected literally thousands and thousands of people. Google Catholic sex abuse and you get over 58 million hits.
Maybe we would care if priests coached football.
i mean eff it took the church until June to admit that child pornography maybe wasn't okay
http://www.appeal-democrat.com/articles/city-107674-kansas-abuse.html
p.s. not catholic and wasnt raped
not to birther pit this whole thread.
But it seems like there is a great deal of righteous indignation (deservedly so) over this issue. Including but not limited to sportsbybrooks grandiose interpretations of the incidents societal implications. My question is basically why has the outcry over the catholic church's own sex abuse scandal seemed to pale in the level of outrage and widespread desire for justice.
Hell so of you are seemingly prepared to sentence this ginger GA to life in prison, but wee weem to give a free pass to a religous institution that has experienced far worse abuses. I mean hell the church abuse scandal spans continents and decades and affected literally thousands and thousands of people. Google Catholic sex abuse and you get over 58 million hits.
Maybe we would care if priests coached football.
i mean eff it took the church until June to admit that child pornography maybe wasn't okay
http://www.appeal-democrat.com/articles/city-107674-kansas-abuse.html
p.s. not catholic and wasnt raped
The catholic church has not been given a pass at all. Nobody that I know is okay with priests raping boys. That story is just a few years old. In a few years, I doubt people are still making threads about the Penn State rapes.
@TheBigLead: Wow. Victim 6's mom: “[McQueary] was a grown man, and he saw a boy being sodomized ... He ran and called his daddy?” http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/mothers_of_two_of_jerry_sandus.html
:nono:
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/mothers_of_two_of_jerry_sandus.html
I know the answer to why there is currently more outrage over OK_Cat's bro than over Catholic priest rape, but I'm not going to birther this. This thread is for outrage, sign ideas and OK_Cat PI only.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45156380
this just came out 5 days ago, and barely a hint of outcry. (for god sakes the story hasn't been tweeted +1'd or commented on.
they revised the charter in June to reflect that kiddie porn was indeed bad and that they prolly shouldn't molest retards either. like that crap needs clarification
"The revisions, adopted Thursday during the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops’ Spring General Assembly in Bellevue, Wash., bring the charter in line with recent Vatican norms that include child pornography as a crime against church law and say abusing a mentally disabled person is equivalent to child abuse."
Read more: http://www.appeal-democrat.com/articles/city-107674-kansas-abuse.html#ixzz1d89GjIBR
I know the answer to why there is currently more outrage over OK_Cat's bro than over Catholic priest rape, but I'm not going to birther this. This thread is for outrage, sign ideas and OK_Cat PI only.
The problem with cases like this are the same problems as when famous people die. Yeah, it's unfortunate and nobody is pleased by it, but a large percent of people get this really weird moral highground thing where they think that they are somehow involved in the case. Like the headline from earlier in this thread. Everybody knows exactly what it meant, but some people are in such a witchhunt mood that they twist it to make the newspaper look like they are child rape advocates. Get a grip, people.
The problem with cases like this are the same problems as when famous people die. Yeah, it's unfortunate and nobody is pleased by it, but a large percent of people get this really weird moral highground thing where they think that they are somehow involved in the case. Like the headline from earlier in this thread. Everybody knows exactly what it meant, but some people are in such a witchhunt mood that they twist it to make the newspaper look like they are child rape advocates. Get a grip, people.
pretty sure you're the only one that has done this
WTF :confused:Quote@TheBigLead: Wow. Victim 6's mom: “[McQueary] was a grown man, and he saw a boy being sodomized ... He ran and called his daddy?” http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/mothers_of_two_of_jerry_sandus.html
RT @TheBigLead: Wow. Victim 6's mom: “(McQueary) was a grown man, and he saw a boy being sodomized ... He ran and called his daddy?” http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/mothers_of_two_of_jerry_sandus.html
WTF :confused:Quote@TheBigLead: Wow. Victim 6's mom: “[McQueary] was a grown man, and he saw a boy being sodomized ... He ran and called his daddy?” http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/mothers_of_two_of_jerry_sandus.html
Let's try againQuoteRT @TheBigLead: Wow. Victim 6's mom: “(McQueary) was a grown man, and he saw a boy being sodomized ... He ran and called his daddy?” http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/mothers_of_two_of_jerry_sandus.html
PSU just cancelled Paterno's press confy :horrorsurprise: :lol: :facepalm: :dubious: :shakesfist:Guess they didn't think the media would abide by the "only Nebraska questions" rule.
GerrySandusky Gerry Sandusky
A great big thank you to my late mom for choosing to spell my first name with a "G".
QuoteGerrySandusky Gerry Sandusky
A great big thank you to my late mom for choosing to spell my first name with a "G".
heh
QuoteGerrySandusky Gerry Sandusky
A great big thank you to my late mom for choosing to spell my first name with a "G".
heh
not to birther pit this whole thread.
But it seems like there is a great deal of righteous indignation (deservedly so) over this issue. Including but not limited to sportsbybrooks grandiose interpretations of the incidents societal implications. My question is basically why has the outcry over the catholic church's own sex abuse scandal seemed to pale in the level of outrage and widespread desire for justice.
Hell so of you are seemingly prepared to sentence this ginger GA to life in prison, but wee weem to give a free pass to a religous institution that has experienced far worse abuses. I mean hell the church abuse scandal spans continents and decades and affected literally thousands and thousands of people. Google Catholic sex abuse and you get over 58 million hits.
Maybe we would care if priests coached football.
i mean eff it took the church until June to admit that child pornography maybe wasn't okay
http://www.appeal-democrat.com/articles/city-107674-kansas-abuse.html
p.s. not catholic and wasnt raped
I know the answer to why there is currently more outrage over OK_Cat's bro than over Catholic priest rape, but I'm not going to birther this. This thread is for outrage, sign ideas and OK_Cat PI only.
The problem with cases like this are the same problems as when famous people die. Yeah, it's unfortunate and nobody is pleased by it, but a large percent of people get this really weird moral highground thing where they think that they are somehow involved in the case. Like the headline from earlier in this thread. Everybody knows exactly what it meant, but some people are in such a witchhunt mood that they twist it to make the newspaper look like they are child rape advocates. Get a grip, people.
pretty sure you're the only one that has done this
i'm friends with a woman that dated that guy, not involved in the case in any way. Between you and me, you're the only one who has bitched about anything in this thread, my friend.
Someone get word to the media to have them redirect their questions to @oklahomacat.
When will University Presidents realize that trying to cover this crap up is just the absolute worst course of action.
At least all it took was a 9th person claiming sexual abuse from a coach that remained around the program for 15 years after the first allegation to get JoPa out of there.
Paterno is Catholic. He probably didn't see anything wrong with what Sandusky was up to.
Just skimmed through the grand jury doc. After a lot of this crap happened they mentioned that because he was a retired coach there was no way to ban him from the facilities. Blows my mind that they didn't take the stance of take your crap and GTFO. If you show up again you will be arrested. Sounds like a lot of enabling going on by everyone on staff at PSU that had knowledge of the situation(s). :chainsaw: :curse: :dubious:
Paterno is Catholic. He probably didn't see anything wrong with what Sandusky was up to.fail
Just skimmed through the grand jury doc. After a lot of this crap happened they mentioned that because he was a retired coach there was no way to ban him from the facilities. Blows my mind that they didn't take the stance of take your crap and GTFO. If you show up again you will be arrested. Sounds like a lot of enabling going on by everyone on staff at PSU that had knowledge of the situation(s). :chainsaw: :curse: :dubious:
Pretty sure that random dudes off the street can't go use the rough ridin' weight room, or have access to rape boys in the team showers. I am not an expert, but this is my hunch.
no. he's right.Paterno is Catholic. He probably didn't see anything wrong with what Sandusky was up to.fail
Paterno is Catholic. He probably didn't see anything wrong with what Sandusky was up to.fail
Just skimmed through the grand jury doc. After a lot of this crap happened they mentioned that because he was a retired coach there was no way to ban him from the facilities. Blows my mind that they didn't take the stance of take your crap and GTFO. If you show up again you will be arrested. Sounds like a lot of enabling going on by everyone on staff at PSU that had knowledge of the situation(s). :chainsaw: :curse: :dubious:
Pretty sure that random dudes off the street can't go use the rough ridin' weight room, or have access to rape boys in the team showers. I am not an expert, but this is my hunch.
Random dudes weren't Assitant HC and state-institution-enabled rapists.
Retirement agreements are retirement agreements. I mean, we do live in a civilized society.
Just skimmed through the grand jury doc. After a lot of this crap happened they mentioned that because he was a retired coach there was no way to ban him from the facilities. Blows my mind that they didn't take the stance of take your crap and GTFO. If you show up again you will be arrested. Sounds like a lot of enabling going on by everyone on staff at PSU that had knowledge of the situation(s). :chainsaw: :curse: :dubious:
Pretty sure that random dudes off the street can't go use the rough ridin' weight room, or have access to rape boys in the team showers. I am not an expert, but this is my hunch.
Just skimmed through the grand jury doc. After a lot of this crap happened they mentioned that because he was a retired coach there was no way to ban him from the facilities. Blows my mind that they didn't take the stance of take your crap and GTFO. If you show up again you will be arrested. Sounds like a lot of enabling going on by everyone on staff at PSU that had knowledge of the situation(s). :chainsaw: :curse: :dubious:
Pretty sure that random dudes off the street can't go use the rough ridin' weight room, or have access to rape boys in the team showers. I am not an expert, but this is my hunch.
Just skimmed through the grand jury doc. After a lot of this crap happened they mentioned that because he was a retired coach there was no way to ban him from the facilities. Blows my mind that they didn't take the stance of take your crap and GTFO. If you show up again you will be arrested. Sounds like a lot of enabling going on by everyone on staff at PSU that had knowledge of the situation(s). :chainsaw: :curse: :dubious:
Pretty sure that random dudes off the street can't go use the rough ridin' weight room, or have access to rape boys in the team showers. I am not an expert, but this is my hunch.
Weird Robert.
that's Casino, dumbass. and the beating would be dismemberment, torture, or at the very least similar to what Phil Leotardos crew did to Vito (i.e. creative use of a pool cue)Just skimmed through the grand jury doc. After a lot of this crap happened they mentioned that because he was a retired coach there was no way to ban him from the facilities. Blows my mind that they didn't take the stance of take your crap and GTFO. If you show up again you will be arrested. Sounds like a lot of enabling going on by everyone on staff at PSU that had knowledge of the situation(s). :chainsaw: :curse: :dubious:
Pretty sure that random dudes off the street can't go use the rough ridin' weight room, or have access to rape boys in the team showers. I am not an expert, but this is my hunch.
IMHO, a "Good Fellas" type beating in a corn field would be about right for this bad person. Don't send him to prison, he would probably enjoy the treatment he would receive. Sick rough rider.
So why should Paterno be fired? Do we agree with this?
that's Casino, dumbass. and the beating would be dismemberment, torture, or at the very least similar to what Phil Leotardos crew did to Vito (i.e. creative use of a pool cue)Just skimmed through the grand jury doc. After a lot of this crap happened they mentioned that because he was a retired coach there was no way to ban him from the facilities. Blows my mind that they didn't take the stance of take your crap and GTFO. If you show up again you will be arrested. Sounds like a lot of enabling going on by everyone on staff at PSU that had knowledge of the situation(s). :chainsaw: :curse: :dubious:
Pretty sure that random dudes off the street can't go use the rough ridin' weight room, or have access to rape boys in the team showers. I am not an expert, but this is my hunch.
IMHO, a "Good Fellas" type beating in a corn field would be about right for this bad person. Don't send him to prison, he would probably enjoy the treatment he would receive. Sick rough rider.
that's Casino, dumbass. and the beating would be dismemberment, torture, or at the very least similar to what Phil Leotardos crew did to Vito (i.e. creative use of a pool cue)Just skimmed through the grand jury doc. After a lot of this crap happened they mentioned that because he was a retired coach there was no way to ban him from the facilities. Blows my mind that they didn't take the stance of take your crap and GTFO. If you show up again you will be arrested. Sounds like a lot of enabling going on by everyone on staff at PSU that had knowledge of the situation(s). :chainsaw: :curse: :dubious:
Pretty sure that random dudes off the street can't go use the rough ridin' weight room, or have access to rape boys in the team showers. I am not an expert, but this is my hunch.
IMHO, a "Good Fellas" type beating in a corn field would be about right for this bad person. Don't send him to prison, he would probably enjoy the treatment he would receive. Sick rough rider.
Casino....Good Fellas....WGAF? You know what I meant. :dubious:
he's going to off himself. just a matter of time/howthat's Casino, dumbass. and the beating would be dismemberment, torture, or at the very least similar to what Phil Leotardos crew did to Vito (i.e. creative use of a pool cue)Just skimmed through the grand jury doc. After a lot of this crap happened they mentioned that because he was a retired coach there was no way to ban him from the facilities. Blows my mind that they didn't take the stance of take your crap and GTFO. If you show up again you will be arrested. Sounds like a lot of enabling going on by everyone on staff at PSU that had knowledge of the situation(s). :chainsaw: :curse: :dubious:
Pretty sure that random dudes off the street can't go use the rough ridin' weight room, or have access to rape boys in the team showers. I am not an expert, but this is my hunch.
IMHO, a "Good Fellas" type beating in a corn field would be about right for this bad person. Don't send him to prison, he would probably enjoy the treatment he would receive. Sick rough rider.
Casino....Good Fellas....WGAF? You know what I meant. :dubious:
I think this would be better punishment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lQFIDMpBJ4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lQFIDMpBJ4)
So why should Paterno be fired? Do we agree with this?
mob mentality. he probably shouldn't be fired, but the masses are standing on moral highground and want anyone who even knew the guy to be hung.
So why should Paterno be fired? Do we agree with this?
mob mentality. he probably shouldn't be fired, but the masses are standing on moral highground and want anyone who even knew the guy to be hung.
“There’s some tough — there’s so many people gravitating to these kids. He may not have even known what he was getting into, Nicholson. They knock on the door; somebody may knock on the door; a cute girl knocks on the door. What do you do?”
So why should Paterno be fired? Do we agree with this?
mob mentality. he probably shouldn't be fired, but the masses are standing on moral highground and want anyone who even knew the guy to be hung.
No, respect, but anyone who knew about the raping/molesting etc of children and didn't call the police should be fired. This isn't turning a blind eye to trading memorabilia for tats or giving players money, its ignoring rape. If it turns out to be true, he has to go.
So why should Paterno be fired? Do we agree with this?
mob mentality. he probably shouldn't be fired, but the masses are standing on moral highground and want anyone who even knew the guy to be hung.
So why should Paterno be fired? Do we agree with this?
mob mentality. he probably shouldn't be fired, but the masses are standing on moral highground and want anyone who even knew the guy to be hung.
No, respect, but anyone who knew about the raping/molesting etc of children and didn't call the police should be fired. This isn't turning a blind eye to trading memorabilia for tats or giving players money, its ignoring rape. If it turns out to be true, he has to go.
Who has said he knew about it?
So why should Paterno be fired? Do we agree with this?
mob mentality. he probably shouldn't be fired, but the masses are standing on moral highground and want anyone who even knew the guy to be hung.
No, respect, but anyone who knew about the raping/molesting etc of children and didn't call the police should be fired. This isn't turning a blind eye to trading memorabilia for tats or giving players money, its ignoring rape. If it turns out to be true, he has to go.
Who has said he knew about it?
JFC people go read some of the hundreds of stories out there and get caught up. I swear Nick Wright just now figured out the story. And if you don't know why it's nearly identical to the Catholic Priest scandals, I can't help you.
JFC people go read some of the hundreds of stories out there and get caught up. I swear Nick Wright just now figured out the story. And if you don't know why it's nearly identical to the Catholic Priest scandals, I can't help you.
It's very similar. JoePa is like the Pontiff, keeping his child sex ring on the down low
JFC people go read some of the hundreds of stories out there and get caught up. I swear Nick Wright just now figured out the story. And if you don't know why it's nearly identical to the Catholic Priest scandals, I can't help you.
It's very similar. JoePa is like the Pontiff, keeping his child sex ring on the down low
But taking shots at people for being Catholic is like blaming the current players for this scandal.
Looks like Paterno will be gone, and rightfully so.
The more I learn about this, the more I'm amazed at just how far this could go. ESPN has to be :gocho: right now with the months of programming this will fill up.
Looks like Paterno will be gone, and rightfully so.
The more I learn about this, the more I'm amazed at just how far this could go. ESPN has to be :gocho: right now with the months of programming this will fill up.
and a new 30 for 30 a year or so down the road :blank:
Just skimmed through the grand jury doc. After a lot of this crap happened they mentioned that because he was a retired coach there was no way to ban him from the facilities. Blows my mind that they didn't take the stance of take your crap and GTFO. If you show up again you will be arrested. Sounds like a lot of enabling going on by everyone on staff at PSU that had knowledge of the situation(s). :chainsaw: :curse: :dubious:
Pretty sure that random dudes off the street can't go use the rough ridin' weight room, or have access to rape boys in the team showers. I am not an expert, but this is my hunch.
:lol:Just skimmed through the grand jury doc. After a lot of this crap happened they mentioned that because he was a retired coach there was no way to ban him from the facilities. Blows my mind that they didn't take the stance of take your crap and GTFO. If you show up again you will be arrested. Sounds like a lot of enabling going on by everyone on staff at PSU that had knowledge of the situation(s). :chainsaw: :curse: :dubious:
Pretty sure that random dudes off the street can't go use the rough ridin' weight room, or have access to rape boys in the team showers. I am not an expert, but this is my hunch.
GA: "coach Sandusky keeps showing up, hogging the pec deck, not wiping off the bench and he leaves the radio on the oldies station even when he is done. Oh, and then he goes to rape young boys in the shower."
JoPa "He is retired guys, I don't think there is anything we can do..."
Just skimmed through the grand jury doc. After a lot of this crap happened they mentioned that because he was a retired coach there was no way to ban him from the facilities. Blows my mind that they didn't take the stance of take your crap and GTFO. If you show up again you will be arrested. Sounds like a lot of enabling going on by everyone on staff at PSU that had knowledge of the situation(s). :chainsaw: :curse: :dubious:
Pretty sure that random dudes off the street can't go use the rough ridin' weight room, or have access to rape boys in the team showers. I am not an expert, but this is my hunch.
GA: "coach Sandusky keeps showing up, hogging the pec deck, not wiping off the bench and he leaves the radio on the oldies station even when he is done. Oh, and then he goes to rape young boys in the shower."
JoPa "He is retired guys, I don't think there is anything we can do..."
Just skimmed through the grand jury doc. After a lot of this crap happened they mentioned that because he was a retired coach there was no way to ban him from the facilities. Blows my mind that they didn't take the stance of take your crap and GTFO. If you show up again you will be arrested. Sounds like a lot of enabling going on by everyone on staff at PSU that had knowledge of the situation(s). :chainsaw: :curse: :dubious:
Pretty sure that random dudes off the street can't go use the rough ridin' weight room, or have access to rape boys in the team showers. I am not an expert, but this is my hunch.
GA: "coach Sandusky keeps showing up, hogging the pec deck, not wiping off the bench and he leaves the radio on the oldies station even when he is done. Oh, and then he goes to rape young boys in the shower."
JoPa "He is retired guys, I don't think there is anything we can do..."
Gregg Doyel is tweeting pics of JoePa's house
lol
Gregg Doyel is tweeting pics of JoePa's house
lol
Jerry's house.
Gregg Doyel is tweeting pics of JoePa's house
lol
Jerry's house.
greggdoyelcbs Gregg Doyel
Standing in woods behind Joe Pa's house. Can't get arrested for this. I hope.
Gregg Doyel is tweeting pics of JoePa's house
lol
Jerry's house.
greggdoyelcbs Gregg Doyel
Standing in woods behind Joe Pa's house. Can't get arrested for this. I hope.
Yeah, I already corrected myself.
Gregg Doyel is tweeting pics of JoePa's house
lol
Jerry's house.
greggdoyelcbs Gregg Doyel
Standing in woods behind Joe Pa's house. Can't get arrested for this. I hope.
Yeah, I already corrected myself.
wtf doyel :sdeek:
wtf doyel :sdeek:
He's a newshound, sd
ESPN has decided to take the day off. Have played the same Millen segment that's 30 minutes long like 10 times in a row.
ESPN has decided to take the day off. Have played the same Millen segment that's 30 minutes long like 10 times in a row.
Can it be found on the interwebs?
i'm Catholic. and have been disgusted by the massive failures in the Church. how these horrific and revolting acts continue to happen.. i'll never know..
Don't send him to prison, he would probably enjoy the treatment he would receive. Sick rough rider.He's not going to enjoy anything about prison. He may like taking it ITB, but he's not going to like taking it ITB with a rusty lead pipe that was just used to beat him nearly to death.
ESPN has decided to take the day off. Have played the same Millen segment that's 30 minutes long like 10 times in a row.
Can it be found on the interwebs?
:facepalm:
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
LHC Bill Snyder called Joe Paterno an "honest man". Snyder says he sees no reason why he should be out as coach at Penn State.
Yep. Tucks already on twitter asking "who knows Paterno better..."
Standard don't question Bill stuff.
New heights of retardation.
Bill could say the sun is Purple and the Tucks would ask all who question Bill, "Who knows purple better, you or bill?".
Have you ever seen a kid getting raped in a locker room? I'm sure it's pretty rough ridin' gross and traumatizing.
OMG, this is totally the "Have you ever been a HOF coach" argument people make when we criticize OBz!
:facepalm::bang:
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
LHC Bill Snyder called Joe Paterno an "honest man". Snyder says he sees no reason why he should be out as coach at Penn State.
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What a dirt bag.
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oh man, what a beautiful campus in the fall :love:
Boal on BITB comparing to Catholic Church.
gross
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFW0WCUEOqc&feature=youtu.be
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I think BITB hit it out of the park today when talking about this not being about this crime, but how major sports teams cover up things in general. In no other business, setting, etc. does no one call the cops, at least eventually, but Penn State isn't alone in their actions. He surmises, and I would agree, that a strong majority of major sports teams would have handled the situation in a similar manner.
It's pretty sickening, but he is right.
gross
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFW0WCUEOqc&feature=youtu.be
yeah, if only the kids knew.
I think BITB hit it out of the park today when talking about this not being about this crime, but how major sports teams cover up things in general. In no other business, setting, etc. does no one call the cops, at least eventually, but Penn State isn't alone in their actions. He surmises, and I would agree, that a strong majority of major sports teams would have handled the situation in a similar manner.
It's pretty sickening, but he is right.
I think BITB hit it out of the park today when talking about this not being about this crime, but how major sports teams cover up things in general. In no other business, setting, etc. does no one call the cops, at least eventually, but Penn State isn't alone in their actions. He surmises, and I would agree, that a strong majority of major sports teams would have handled the situation in a similar manner.
It's pretty sickening, but he is right.
It depends on the crime. Forget about the sports team, just take yourself as an example. Your best friend drives home drunk. Do you call the cops? He beats up some dude in a bar fight. Cops? He kills a hooker. Cops? In all of the instances, I figure out how to help my friend and/or keep him out of jail. Now, if he finger fucks an 8 year old, I pistol whip him to within an inch of his life, then I call the cops. It's all relative to the crime imo. People turn a blind eye to crimes everyday whether it's sports related or not, this is egregious simply because of the crime.
I think BITB hit it out of the park today when talking about this not being about this crime, but how major sports teams cover up things in general. In no other business, setting, etc. does no one call the cops, at least eventually, but Penn State isn't alone in their actions. He surmises, and I would agree, that a strong majority of major sports teams would have handled the situation in a similar manner.
It's pretty sickening, but he is right.
It depends on the crime. Forget about the sports team, just take yourself as an example. Your best friend drives home drunk. Do you call the cops? He beats up some dude in a bar fight. Cops? He kills a hooker. Cops? In all of the instances, I figure out how to help my friend and/or keep him out of jail. Now, if he finger fucks an 8 year old, I pistol whip him to within an inch of his life, then I call the cops. It's all relative to the crime imo. People turn a blind eye to crimes everyday whether it's sports related or not, this is egregious simply because of the crime.
Fuktard just blew my mind.
no.I think BITB hit it out of the park today when talking about this not being about this crime, but how major sports teams cover up things in general. In no other business, setting, etc. does no one call the cops, at least eventually, but Penn State isn't alone in their actions. He surmises, and I would agree, that a strong majority of major sports teams would have handled the situation in a similar manner.
It's pretty sickening, but he is right.
It depends on the crime. Forget about the sports team, just take yourself as an example. Your best friend drives home drunk. Do you call the cops? He beats up some dude in a bar fight. Cops? He kills a hooker. Cops? In all of the instances, I figure out how to help my friend and/or keep him out of jail. Now, if he finger fucks an 8 year old, I pistol whip him to within an inch of his life, then I call the cops. It's all relative to the crime imo. People turn a blind eye to crimes everyday whether it's sports related or not, this is egregious simply because of the crime.
I have little confidence that KSU and HCBS would handle it any differently than PSU did.
Why?no.I think BITB hit it out of the park today when talking about this not being about this crime, but how major sports teams cover up things in general. In no other business, setting, etc. does no one call the cops, at least eventually, but Penn State isn't alone in their actions. He surmises, and I would agree, that a strong majority of major sports teams would have handled the situation in a similar manner.
It's pretty sickening, but he is right.
It depends on the crime. Forget about the sports team, just take yourself as an example. Your best friend drives home drunk. Do you call the cops? He beats up some dude in a bar fight. Cops? He kills a hooker. Cops? In all of the instances, I figure out how to help my friend and/or keep him out of jail. Now, if he finger fucks an 8 year old, I pistol whip him to within an inch of his life, then I call the cops. It's all relative to the crime imo. People turn a blind eye to crimes everyday whether it's sports related or not, this is egregious simply because of the crime.
no.I think BITB hit it out of the park today when talking about this not being about this crime, but how major sports teams cover up things in general. In no other business, setting, etc. does no one call the cops, at least eventually, but Penn State isn't alone in their actions. He surmises, and I would agree, that a strong majority of major sports teams would have handled the situation in a similar manner.
It's pretty sickening, but he is right.
It depends on the crime. Forget about the sports team, just take yourself as an example. Your best friend drives home drunk. Do you call the cops? NO He beats up some dude in a bar fight. Cops? NO He kills a hooker. Cops? YES InallMOST of the instances, I figure out how to help my friend and/or keep him out of jail. Now, if he finger fucks an 8 year old, I pistol whip him to within an inch of his life, then I call the cops. It's all relative to the crime imo. People turn a blind eye to crimes everyday whether it's sports related or not, this is egregious simply because of the crime.
no.I think BITB hit it out of the park today when talking about this not being about this crime, but how major sports teams cover up things in general. In no other business, setting, etc. does no one call the cops, at least eventually, but Penn State isn't alone in their actions. He surmises, and I would agree, that a strong majority of major sports teams would have handled the situation in a similar manner.
It's pretty sickening, but he is right.
It depends on the crime. Forget about the sports team, just take yourself as an example. Your best friend drives home drunk. Do you call the cops? NO He beats up some dude in a bar fight. Cops? NO He kills a hooker. Cops? YES InallMOST of the instances, I figure out how to help my friend and/or keep him out of jail. Now, if he finger fucks an 8 year old, I pistol whip him to within an inch of his life, then I call the cops. It's all relative to the crime imo. People turn a blind eye to crimes everyday whether it's sports related or not, this is egregious simply because of the crime.
I mostly agree with fuktard. Or I did until I realized it said "kills a hooker" instead of "calls a hooker."
I wouldn't be friends with a person who starts a bar fight for no reason. If they are in a fight they didn't start or is started for legit reasons than I would pull them off when the threat is over. I wouldn't be friends with a guy killing whores, if I knew of an incident I would call, that is someone's son or daughter.Why?no.I think BITB hit it out of the park today when talking about this not being about this crime, but how major sports teams cover up things in general. In no other business, setting, etc. does no one call the cops, at least eventually, but Penn State isn't alone in their actions. He surmises, and I would agree, that a strong majority of major sports teams would have handled the situation in a similar manner.
It's pretty sickening, but he is right.
It depends on the crime. Forget about the sports team, just take yourself as an example. Your best friend drives home drunk. Do you call the cops? He beats up some dude in a bar fight. Cops? He kills a hooker. Cops? In all of the instances, I figure out how to help my friend and/or keep him out of jail. Now, if he finger fucks an 8 year old, I pistol whip him to within an inch of his life, then I call the cops. It's all relative to the crime imo. People turn a blind eye to crimes everyday whether it's sports related or not, this is egregious simply because of the crime.
I think Fuktard brings up a very good point.
I like to think that I'm not friends with anyone who would/could kill a hooker.
Dude :facepalm:I think BITB hit it out of the park today when talking about this not being about this crime, but how major sports teams cover up things in general. In no other business, setting, etc. does no one call the cops, at least eventually, but Penn State isn't alone in their actions. He surmises, and I would agree, that a strong majority of major sports teams would have handled the situation in a similar manner.
It's pretty sickening, but he is right.
It depends on the crime. Forget about the sports team, just take yourself as an example. Your best friend drives home drunk. Do you call the cops? He beats up some dude in a bar fight. Cops? He kills a hooker. Cops? In all of the instances, I figure out how to help my friend and/or keep him out of jail. Now, if he finger fucks an 8 year old, I pistol whip him to within an inch of his life, then I call the cops. It's all relative to the crime imo. People turn a blind eye to crimes everyday whether it's sports related or not, this is egregious simply because of the crime.
no.I think BITB hit it out of the park today when talking about this not being about this crime, but how major sports teams cover up things in general. In no other business, setting, etc. does no one call the cops, at least eventually, but Penn State isn't alone in their actions. He surmises, and I would agree, that a strong majority of major sports teams would have handled the situation in a similar manner.
It's pretty sickening, but he is right.
It depends on the crime. Forget about the sports team, just take yourself as an example. Your best friend drives home drunk. Do you call the cops? NO He beats up some dude in a bar fight. Cops? NO He kills a hooker. Cops? YES InallMOST of the instances, I figure out how to help my friend and/or keep him out of jail. Now, if he finger fucks an 8 year old, I pistol whip him to within an inch of his life, then I call the cops. It's all relative to the crime imo. People turn a blind eye to crimes everyday whether it's sports related or not, this is egregious simply because of the crime.
I mostly agree with fuktard. Or I did until I realized it said "kills a hooker" instead of "calls a hooker."
well we all draw the line in different places, the biggest problem is that JoePa and company drew it behind child molestation.
no.I think BITB hit it out of the park today when talking about this not being about this crime, but how major sports teams cover up things in general. In no other business, setting, etc. does no one call the cops, at least eventually, but Penn State isn't alone in their actions. He surmises, and I would agree, that a strong majority of major sports teams would have handled the situation in a similar manner.
It's pretty sickening, but he is right.
It depends on the crime. Forget about the sports team, just take yourself as an example. Your best friend drives home drunk. Do you call the cops? NO He beats up some dude in a bar fight. Cops? NO He kills a hooker. Cops? YES InallMOST of the instances, I figure out how to help my friend and/or keep him out of jail. Now, if he finger fucks an 8 year old, I pistol whip him to within an inch of his life, then I call the cops. It's all relative to the crime imo. People turn a blind eye to crimes everyday whether it's sports related or not, this is egregious simply because of the crime.
I mostly agree with fuktard. Or I did until I realized it said "kills a hooker" instead of "calls a hooker."
well we all draw the line in different places, the biggest problem is that JoePa and company drew it behind child molestation.
So would you agree or disagree that the "in-house" mentality taken by PSU in this whole ordeal would be the same or very similar action taken by the majority of BCS football programs had this situation came up at their school? Would you agree that this is the real problem and that the Sandusky cover-up is merely a symptom of a larger problem?
no.I think BITB hit it out of the park today when talking about this not being about this crime, but how major sports teams cover up things in general. In no other business, setting, etc. does no one call the cops, at least eventually, but Penn State isn't alone in their actions. He surmises, and I would agree, that a strong majority of major sports teams would have handled the situation in a similar manner.
It's pretty sickening, but he is right.
It depends on the crime. Forget about the sports team, just take yourself as an example. Your best friend drives home drunk. Do you call the cops? NO He beats up some dude in a bar fight. Cops? NO He kills a hooker. Cops? YES InallMOST of the instances, I figure out how to help my friend and/or keep him out of jail. Now, if he finger fucks an 8 year old, I pistol whip him to within an inch of his life, then I call the cops. It's all relative to the crime imo. People turn a blind eye to crimes everyday whether it's sports related or not, this is egregious simply because of the crime.
I mostly agree with fuktard. Or I did until I realized it said "kills a hooker" instead of "calls a hooker."
ESPN_BigTen Rittenberg/Bennett
Wild scene at JoePa's house. Hundreds of students gathered for rally to show support.
good grief.
no.I think BITB hit it out of the park today when talking about this not being about this crime, but how major sports teams cover up things in general. In no other business, setting, etc. does no one call the cops, at least eventually, but Penn State isn't alone in their actions. He surmises, and I would agree, that a strong majority of major sports teams would have handled the situation in a similar manner.
It's pretty sickening, but he is right.
It depends on the crime. Forget about the sports team, just take yourself as an example. Your best friend drives home drunk. Do you call the cops? NO He beats up some dude in a bar fight. Cops? NO He kills a hooker. Cops? YES InallMOST of the instances, I figure out how to help my friend and/or keep him out of jail. Now, if he finger fucks an 8 year old, I pistol whip him to within an inch of his life, then I call the cops. It's all relative to the crime imo. People turn a blind eye to crimes everyday whether it's sports related or not, this is egregious simply because of the crime.
I mostly agree with fuktard. Or I did until I realized it said "kills a hooker" instead of "calls a hooker."
Two things similar, and only one difference!
gross
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFW0WCUEOqc&feature=youtu.be
What if it's an 8 year old hooker? :dunno:
gross
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFW0WCUEOqc&feature=youtu.be
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JXoXdIJQ7I&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JXoXdIJQ7I&feature=player_embedded)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JXoXdIJQ7I&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JXoXdIJQ7I&feature=player_embedded)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JXoXdIJQ7I&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JXoXdIJQ7I&feature=player_embedded)
JFC is Penn State's fanbase entirely made up of tucks?
I like to think that I'm not friends with anyone who would/could kill a hooker.
omg at all the people acting like killing a hooker (or two) is a big deal. this board has gone too pc imo. we had multiple hooker killing threads back when this was ksufans.com and i don't remember anyone acting all offended. gmafb. :flush:
drill and kill em is what my dad always used to say. glad he's not around anymore to view this ridiculousness.
JFC is Penn State's fanbase entirely made up of tucks?
As far as I can tell it's us with a couple of national titles.
it's like my dad always used to say..."they (hookers) can't get you into trouble at a later date for refusing to pay them, if you just immediately stab them twenty or thirty times after you're done having sex w/ them."
you guys think the dusky killed any of those kids? seems plausible at the very least. :dunno:
15 pages of comments, and not a single horrible/distasteful/politically incorrect BV joke? :dunno: I may be overpaying for this site
edit: ok, ok, I see I missed one, guess I will stay around and work on my reading comprehension :bang:
parents utterly flip at the thought of child rape.
dunno. guess i won't understand till i'm a parent.
parents utterly flip at the thought of child rape.
dunno. guess i won't understand till i'm a parent.
"We want Joe!"
Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap.
"We want Joe!"
After that chant died down, another started. It was a chant that showed the priorities of the 1,000 students who gathered outside the house Tuesday night of one of the few men on the planet who had the ability to stop an alleged pedophile in 2002 ... but didn't do it. Paterno told his boss, yes, but he didn't tell the police, ever after it was clear that nobody else was going to tell the police. An alleged pedophile roamed State College, Pa., for another nine years. But that wasn't on the minds of the 1,000 people on Paterno's lawn Tuesday night.
This was:
"Beat Nebraska!"
Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap.
"Beat Nebraska!"
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/sports/local_sports/exclusive:-victims-double-in-penn-state-case-110811
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i need someone to die soon so you guys will get off my back, jfc.Great choice of words! :dubious:
Strap on? :horrorsurprise:i need someone to die soon so you guys will get off my back, jfc.
the wife has really been riding my ass sandusky style.
Except OK_Cat. :rolleyes:I am familiar with the sociological studies that chum cites, but I really do believe that I would land in the group that would do a bit more than just give someone a "heads up" if I witnessed a kid getting raped.
That's what everyone says.
Yep. Tucks already on twitter asking "who knows Paterno better..."Sorry, I'm late catching up in this thread... but that statement just makes me burst out :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Standard don't question Bill stuff.
New heights of retardation.
Bill could say the sun is Purple and the Tucks would ask all who question Bill, "Who knows purple better, you or bill?".
You people and your defense of hookers....jeez. I mean I like hookers as much as the next guy but the thought that it's not at least somewhat acceptable to kill one of them is a little bizarre.Wait, are they anything like a drifter... cause Trim might have killed one. :horrorsurprise:
You people and your defense of hookers....jeez. I mean I like hookers as much as the next guy but the thought that it's not at least somewhat acceptable to kill one of them is a little bizarre.Wait, are they anything like a drifter... cause Trim might have killed one. :horrorsurprise:
"I saw the newscast. I didn't necessarily garner the feeling that he was gone, and I don't know why he would be," Snyder said of Paterno. "I haven't spoken to Joe since this has taken place, and I'm really saddened by all of this. I didn't know (accused child molester and former Penn State assistant) Jerry Sandusky, but I know he was a very fine football coach. It's really is saddening. I know this: I know Joe Paterno is an honest, forthright individual. I trust immensely that whatever his response is, I trust that it's accurate. But I know it has to be a sad day there and I feel badly for all involved, whichever side it might be on."
Quote"I saw the newscast. I didn't necessarily garner the feeling that he was gone, and I don't know why he would be," Snyder said of Paterno. "I haven't spoken to Joe since this has taken place, and I'm really saddened by all of this. I didn't know (accused child molester and former Penn State assistant) Jerry Sandusky, but I know he was a very fine football coach. It's really is saddening. I know this: I know Joe Paterno is an honest, forthright individual. I trust immensely that whatever his response is, I trust that it's accurate. But I know it has to be a sad day there and I feel badly for all involved, whichever side it might be on."
:dubious:
god damn itQuote"I saw the newscast. I didn't necessarily garner the feeling that he was gone, and I don't know why he would be," Snyder said of Paterno. "I haven't spoken to Joe since this has taken place, and I'm really saddened by all of this. I didn't know (accused child molester and former Penn State assistant) Jerry Sandusky, but I know he was a very fine football coach. It's really is saddening. I know this: I know Joe Paterno is an honest, forthright individual. I trust immensely that whatever his response is, I trust that it's accurate. But I know it has to be a sad day there and I feel badly for all involved, whichever side it might be on."
:dubious:
Sounds like Snyder is of the option that Paterno didn't do anything wrong. fybs
Looks like Bill sees it like OK_Cat does... in some kind of way; maybe indescribable. :dunno:Quote"I saw the newscast. I didn't necessarily garner the feeling that he was gone, and I don't know why he would be," Snyder said of Paterno. "I haven't spoken to Joe since this has taken place, and I'm really saddened by all of this. I didn't know (accused child molester and former Penn State assistant) Jerry Sandusky, but I know he was a very fine football coach. It's really is saddening. I know this: I know Joe Paterno is an honest, forthright individual. I trust immensely that whatever his response is, I trust that it's accurate. But I know it has to be a sad day there and I feel badly for all involved, whichever side it might be on."
:dubious:
"I didn't necessarily garner the feeling that he was gone, and I don't know why he would be," Snyder said of Paterno.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JXoXdIJQ7I&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JXoXdIJQ7I&feature=player_embedded)Doesn't seem real. Would we do that? :frown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JXoXdIJQ7I&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JXoXdIJQ7I&feature=player_embedded)Doesn't seem real. Would we do that? :frown:
Way to go super old midwestern college head football coach LHC Bill Snyder. Nice words and I agree 100%. BTW, Let me know if I can help you out in your mentoring of young children in our area. :lick:Bill does like to mentor youngsters. Please refer to the card he gives his team to live by. :nono:
http://twitter.com/#!/CoachBillSnyder/status/108533499421663234
greggdoyelcbs Gregg Doyel
Riots at penn state. I'm here! Will keep you posted.
4 minutes ago
@greggdoyelcbs
Gregg Doyel
Now they're singing Sweet Caroline. These kids wouldn't know a riot if a can of tear gas hit their head
:cry:
Who will come forward with allegations against cosh?
Shocked it took this long.Who will come forward with allegations against cosh?
Thought about making similar joke 8 pages ago. Thought better of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JXoXdIJQ7I&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JXoXdIJQ7I&feature=player_embedded)Doesn't seem real. Would we do that? :frown:
Pretty fair question. I would hope not, but if we did, I would hope there was at least some contingent of EMAWers there being as loud as rough ridin' possible shouting "WHY THE eff DIDN'T YOU DO SOMETHING!?!?!?!" over and over again.
However, it absolutely start the K-State fans civil war I've so eagerly awaited.
I just wanted you all to know that when there is a a major event in the world of college FB or BB, I don't turn to cbs, fox, espn, etc. I go to goEMAW.com and get the scoop there.
Video from the Paterno statue :facepalm:
http://yfrog.com/65kh5z
The kids from the neighborhood would gather to play basketball in my driveway, not because I was particularly popular, but because we had a good hoop. In high school, we engaged in epic pick-up football games in Sunset Park, a little patch of grass right next to a house owned by Joe and Sue Paterno. In the second grade, my Little League coach was an enormous neighbor of ours named Mr. McQueary, and his son Mike was the best player on our team.1 We went to school at Park Forest Junior High, and then we went to State College High School, where we learned how to drive and how to date and how to do quadratic equations. We were the sons of farmers and college professors and football coaches. One of my brother's classmates was named Sandusky; one of my classmates was named Sandusky, too.2 I goofed off in the back of Latin class with a kid named Scott Paterno.3 We knew who their fathers were; their fathers were royalty to us, even if we acted like it was no big deal. Our football team's nickname was the Little Lions. There was no way to extricate the happenings at our school from the happenings at the university, and the happenings at the university always centered around football. Everything in State College — even the name of our town — was one all-encompassing, synergistic monolith, and Joe Paterno was our benevolent dictator, and nothing truly bad ever happened, and even when it did, it was easier just to blot it from our lives and move on.
Video from the Paterno statue :facepalm:
http://yfrog.com/65kh5z
LOL at them chanting to the tune of a song written by a child molester.
It is kind of crazy how it works. If this would've come out 7,8,9 years ago then Paterno would be gone already for good and he never would've come back and would've had a life full of horrible type stuff.
If Joe knew ahead of time however... then he'd probably just retire, start a kids foundation of his own and then come back to coaching when the smoke cleared and load his office up with tons of disney or other little kid stuff that might appeal to small kids and reap the rewards. boing. jackpot. i mean hypothetical of course for that Paterno guy....
Video from the Paterno statue :facepalm:
http://yfrog.com/65kh5z
LOL at them chanting to the tune of a song written by a child molester.
omg lol
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omg. how in the eff are they going to run him out there for the rest of the season?
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omg. how in the eff are they going to run him out there for the rest of the season?
Same way they have since 2002? :dunno:
Lies are lies.
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omg. how in the eff are they going to run him out there for the rest of the season?
Same way they have since 2002? :dunno:
Lies are lies.
I would argue that things are a little different now in terms of public perception than they were in 2002.
gross
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFW0WCUEOqc&feature=youtu.be
http://twitpic.com/7c8n10:peek:
one positive to all of this...Nubb is about to walk into the angriest stadium in the history of mankind
:chainsaw: :crossfingers: :excited: :lol:
one positive to all of this...Nubb is about to walk into the angriest stadium in the history of mankind
:chainsaw: :crossfingers: :excited: :lol:
More like conflicted. three cheering sections: 1. Nubb, 2. PSU, 3. anti-Joepa
School needs to really think about this. I mean, his own players and non-involved assistants will most likely react to this similarly to the rest of the nation. Some will not care, others will have serious concern.
Gotta think that there is serious fracture here. How do you follow such a flawed leader?
The winner of this year's Big 10 Championship Game is going to hoist the Stagg Paterno Trophy. Just think, some lucky university will have to shove some women's field hockey trophies out of the way to make room for their Stagg-Paterno Trophy that will proudly be displayed forever.
Amos Alonzo Stagg’s name being attached to the Big Ten football championship trophy may have to be reevaluated if Joe Paterno is found to be “complicit” in the Jerry Sandusky scandal according to Stagg's great grandson.
The hardware for the first Big Ten championship game next month -- the Stagg-Paterno Championship Trophy – has yet to be presented. But Robert Stagg told CBSSports.com on Tuesday that he is concerned about the family’s association if “more disturbing evidence,” is found in the case that has captured national headlines.
“If he [Paterno] has been complicit in this, he’s got to step down,” said Stagg, a 54-year-old father working in sales in Grand Rapids, Mich. “Unfortunately that would be the case.”
Asked specifically if “complicit” meant not going to authorities if Paterno knew a crime had been committed, Stagg said: “If you have knowledge of what’s going on, you have to alert authorities. You can’t leave it up to someone else to alert authorities. You have to. It’s the only thing to do.”...
Oh I agree, I'm sure they will trot him out there like NBD. It will just be very awkward to see him out there, especially as more and more victims come forward, making it harder and harder to believe he was unaware of the seriousness of Sandusky's problem. Is it up to 20 yet? jfc
http://twitpic.com/7c8n10:peek:
not sure if posted
http://www.channel3000.com/sports/29704008/detail.html
but its a pretty detailed time line
Nebraska sure entered the Big10 at a weird time.Sounds like they missed the rape party. They must be crushed.
not sure if posted
http://www.channel3000.com/sports/29704008/detail.html
but its a pretty detailed time line
In one day (march 2 - March 3 2002) the story went from "He was having anal sex with the boy" to "might have inappropriately grabbed the young boy's genitals while wrestling". Paterno and Curley are the worst at playing Chinese Whispers ever.
westboro is going to be there. :lol:
not sure if posted
http://www.channel3000.com/sports/29704008/detail.html
but its a pretty detailed time line
In one day (march 2 - March 3 2002) the story went from "He was having anal sex with the boy" to "might have inappropriately grabbed the young boy's genitals while wrestling". Paterno and Curley are the worst at playing Chinese Whispers ever.
I don't understand why more people don't want to see that GTA in jail. How the eff can you see a child get raped and not do anything.
The winner of this year's Big 10 Championship Game is going to hoist the Stagg Paterno Trophy. Just think, some lucky university will have to shove some women's field hockey trophies out of the way to make room for their Stagg-Paterno Trophy that will proudly be displayed forever.
http://twitpic.com/7ch1tc
:sdeek:
not sure if posted
http://www.channel3000.com/sports/29704008/detail.html
but its a pretty detailed time line
In one day (march 2 - March 3 2002) the story went from "He was having anal sex with the boy" to "might have inappropriately grabbed the young boy's genitals while wrestling". Paterno and Curley are the worst at playing Chinese Whispers ever.
I don't understand why more people don't want to see that GTA in jail. How the eff can you see a child get raped and not do anything.
everyone is pissed at the goddam GA. He's just not Joe rough ridin' Paterno so he doesn't get the same attention.
http://twitpic.com/7ch1tc
:sdeek:
I wonder what the controversy mentioned in McQueary's letter is referring to? Ohio State?
http://twitpic.com/7ch1tc
:sdeek:
I wonder what the controversy mentioned in McQueary's letter is referring to? Ohio State?
Even better since he was the GA that saw it to begin with. What a scumbag to sign that paper with that bolded 2 paragraphs above and the last paragraph saying they don't take "success with honor" lightly.
The winner of this year's Big 10 Championship Game is going to hoist the Stagg Paterno Trophy. Just think, some lucky university will have to shove some women's field hockey trophies out of the way to make room for their Stagg-Paterno Trophy that will proudly be displayed forever.
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Something like this seems oddly appropriate.
:lol:
The winner of this year's Big 10 Championship Game is going to hoist the Stagg Paterno Trophy. Just think, some lucky university will have to shove some women's field hockey trophies out of the way to make room for their Stagg-Paterno Trophy that will proudly be displayed forever.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_bFc13FttY9M%2FS8YBDEkIMjI%2FAAAAAAAACAM%2FKjpbH3AKNw8%2Fs1600%2FWORST-TROPHY-EVER.jpg&hash=46a76e56c0db9e553667148bb7b8c28a3dd3ff2e)
Something like this seems oddly appropriate.
:lol:
LOL. I shudder to think at what else popped up in your Google Images search for this.
timeline for those who don't know everything. So many people mumped up here. jfc.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/16049259/key-dates-in-penn-state-sex-abuse-case
not sure if posted
http://www.channel3000.com/sports/29704008/detail.html
but its a pretty detailed time line
timeline for those who don't know everything. So many people mumped up here. jfc.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/16049259/key-dates-in-penn-state-sex-abuse-casenot sure if posted
http://www.channel3000.com/sports/29704008/detail.html
but its a pretty detailed time line
good work
:sdeek:
K-State professor on Outside the Lines right now on ESPN talking about the Penn State scandal.
K-State professor on Outside the Lines right now on ESPN talking about the Penn State scandal.
K-State professor on Outside the Lines right now on ESPN talking about the Penn State scandal.
Paraphrase?
K-State professor on Outside the Lines right now on ESPN talking about the Penn State scandal.
Let's hope he doesn't say anything stupid like BS did.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/penn-state-football-should-be-retired-permanently/2011/11/07/gIQA9oiL0M_blog.htmlWell crap, there goes any chance of Notre Dame to Big 12
K-State professor on Outside the Lines right now on ESPN talking about the Penn State scandal.
Let's hope he doesn't say anything stupid like BS did.
http://www.k-state.edu/media/mediaguide/bios/shoopbio.html (http://www.k-state.edu/media/mediaguide/bios/shoopbio.html)
I doubt he's going to say anything stupid.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/penn-state-football-should-be-retired-permanently/2011/11/07/gIQA9oiL0M_blog.htmlWell crap, there goes any chance of Notre Dame to Big 12
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/penn-state-football-should-be-retired-permanently/2011/11/07/gIQA9oiL0M_blog.html
Yeah realized that was a meatball hanging over the plate when I typed it.http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/penn-state-football-should-be-retired-permanently/2011/11/07/gIQA9oiL0M_blog.htmlWell crap, there goes any chance of Notre Dame to Big 12
I am not sure the Catholic flagship university would rush in to fill the void left by PSU if they left for child abuse.
So an older woman who goes after young men is called a cougar; is an older man who goes after little boys called a nittany lion?
So an older woman who goes after young men is called a cougar; is an older man who goes after little boys called a nittany lion?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/penn-state-football-should-be-retired-permanently/2011/11/07/gIQA9oiL0M_blog.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/penn-state-football-should-be-retired-permanently/2011/11/07/gIQA9oiL0M_blog.html
:flush:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/penn-state-football-should-be-retired-permanently/2011/11/07/gIQA9oiL0M_blog.html
:flush:
qft. seriously people, get a life.
So an older woman who goes after young men is called a cougar; is an older man who goes after little boys called a nittany lion?
it's a nice zing, but give credit to who you took it from.
@ryanjoerger Ryan Joerger
If older women going after younger men is called a cougar, would older men going after young boys be called a Nittany Lion?
7 Nov via web
it's a nice zing, but give credit to who you took it from.Quote@ryanjoerger Ryan Joerger
If older women going after younger men is called a cougar, would older men going after young boys be called a Nittany Lion?
7 Nov via web
PITTSBURGH -- Channel 11 News is looking into the disappearance of the district attorney who chose not to prosecute former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky more than a decade ago.
Ray Gricar disappeared in 2005. Gricar’s car and laptop were found along the Susquehanna River, but police have yet to find the former district attorney.
it's a nice zing, but give credit to who you took it from.Quote@ryanjoerger Ryan Joerger
If older women going after younger men is called a cougar, would older men going after young boys be called a Nittany Lion?
7 Nov via web
huh. I guess tucker max stole it too.
http://twitter.com/#!/TuckerMax/status/133952402285002753
http://www.wpxi.com/news/29715888/detail.htmlQuotePITTSBURGH -- Channel 11 News is looking into the disappearance of the district attorney who chose not to prosecute former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky more than a decade ago.
Ray Gricar disappeared in 2005. Gricar’s car and laptop were found along the Susquehanna River, but police have yet to find the former district attorney.
http://www.wpxi.com/news/29715888/detail.htmlQuotePITTSBURGH -- Channel 11 News is looking into the disappearance of the district attorney who chose not to prosecute former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky more than a decade ago.
Ray Gricar disappeared in 2005. Gricar’s car and laptop were found along the Susquehanna River, but police have yet to find the former district attorney.
oh jesus. it's like it couldn't get any better and then it has.
it's a nice zing, but give credit to who you took it from.Quote@ryanjoerger Ryan Joerger
If older women going after younger men is called a cougar, would older men going after young boys be called a Nittany Lion?
7 Nov via web
huh. I guess tucker max stole it too.
http://twitter.com/#!/TuckerMax/status/133952402285002753
he steals most of his stuff.
eff Penn State. eff Joe Paterno. eff the entire state of Pennsylvania.
http://www.wpxi.com/news/29715888/detail.htmlQuotePITTSBURGH -- Channel 11 News is looking into the disappearance of the district attorney who chose not to prosecute former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky more than a decade ago.
Ray Gricar disappeared in 2005. Gricar’s car and laptop were found along the Susquehanna River, but police have yet to find the former district attorney.
oh jesus. it's like it couldn't get any better and then it has.
just 511 fewer posts than out thread on the same topic :flush:eff Penn State. eff Joe Paterno. eff the entire state of Pennsylvania.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=8205793&stm=109925860
:dubious:
So the running joke has always been that Paterno was gonna die on the field. Is this more or less shocking than that?
Jim_Gardner Jim Gardner
#Paterno is out. #PSUcharges
Jim_Gardner Jim Gardner
Assistant coach, Tom Bradley is interim coach. #PSUcharges
Yes! Paterno thoroughly disgraced! America wins!Hey look at me, I always take the opposite side of the popular opinion no matter what the subject is cause I'm so edgy and cool. :jerk:
Paterno is gone immediately
He broke up a little, did he say that they know more than what the grand jury report says?No. I just heard him say there's little to no information other than the grand jury report.
Peter King bitching about firing him over the phone and not in person.
What about OK_Cat's bff?
Holy crap at the last question. "What do you say about the board gunning for Paterno since 2004 and you're using this as an excuse to finally finish that?"
Holy crap at the last question. "What do you say about the board gunning for Paterno since 2004 and you're using this as an excuse to finally finish that?"
Holy crap at the last question. "What do you say about the board gunning for Paterno since 2004 and you're using this as an excuse to finally finish that?"
yeah that one took the butthurt fan cake
What is the best place for real time riot coverage?
What is the best place for real time riot coverage?
Apparently Happy Valley :dunno:
What is the best place for real time riot coverage?
CNN had a camera earlier.
Peter King bitching about firing him over the phone and not in person.
Fair point. Phone firings are never good. Kinda small in the scope of things though.
CNN had a camera earlier.
They've got the live camera up now.
tv only or stream? online I only see an old story's videoCNN had a camera earlier.
They've got the live camera up now.
tv only or stream? online I only see an old story's videoCNN had a camera earlier.
They've got the live camera up now.
I am no longer an alum of Penn State University
When the BoT makes decisions without all the facts (and says so) and goes against everything my professors taught while I was there, then I resign from being an alum.
I thought I was embarrassed by the Sandusky allegations, but this just makes PSU a laughing stock. An educational institution caved from the pressure of a sports network.
Good luck to all of you.
My parents attended Penn State, I attended Penn State. I love the institution, but not after this.
I am done.
I feel for the kids on the football team, what a circus. This is a tragedy of the first degree.
I am done. No season tickets renewals, no giving, no support. I'll use my degree for professional reasons but I disassociate myself from the university.
https://twitter.com/#!/OnwardStateFeed
QuoteMy parents attended Penn State, I attended Penn State. I love the institution, but not after this.
I am done.
I feel for the kids on the football team, what a circus. This is a tragedy of the first degree.
I am done. No season tickets renewals, no giving, no support. I'll use my degree for professional reasons but I disassociate myself from the university.
Crazy way for JoePa to end his career. A humongous black eye on the face of a man whose only blemish up to this point has been his GIANT rough ridin' NOSE.
^what I would tweet if I were a tweet-guy
I'm sorry but this stinks of the vendetta the BOT had against Joe.
I mean they called him to fire him over the phone.
Holy crap at the last question. "What do you say about the board gunning for Paterno since 2004 and you're using this as an excuse to finally finish that?"
:horrorsurprise:
Holy rough ridin' eff Pennsylvania is terrible.
I'm sorry but this stinks of the vendetta the BOT had against Joe.
I mean they called him to fire him over the phone.
Crazy way for JoePa to end his career. A humongous black eye on the face of a man whose only blemish up to this point has been his GIANT rough ridin' NOSE.
^what I would tweet if I were a tweet-guy
JoPa has been guilty of similar hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil behavior with his players for years and years.
I'm sorry but this stinks of the vendetta the BOT had against Joe.
I mean they called him to fire him over the phone.
My god there's been hundreds of students and scores of media camped out at his house, how in the holy hell do you think they could have fired him in person? Also with the nature of the situation why do you think he deserves that right?
That's why I have decided to announce my retirement effective at the end of this season. At this moment the Board of Trustees should not spend a single minute discussing my status. They have far more important matters to address. I want to make this as easy for them as I possibly can.
Crazy way for JoePa to end his career. A humongous black eye on the face of a man whose only blemish up to this point has been his GIANT rough ridin' NOSE.
^what I would tweet if I were a tweet-guy
JoPa has been guilty of similar hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil behavior with his players for years and years.
I think you could say this about every single successful coach.
QuoteThat's why I have decided to announce my retirement effective at the end of this season. At this moment the Board of Trustees should not spend a single minute discussing my status. They have far more important matters to address. I want to make this as easy for them as I possibly can.
eff you JoePa...trying to be noble about stepping down, as if it were for any other reason then to spare the BOT from "discussing his status." eff you straight to hell. He just wanted to do it on his terms, no matter the circumstances and the BOT said eff you. If he were able to stay and finish the season it would only diminish the focus and make it more of a circus than it already will be. BOT was right.
http://www.apexchange.com/Content/preview/2011/20111110/04/8bdf49f645400c19fe0e6a7067005fd9.jpg (http://www.apexchange.com/Content/preview/2011/20111110/04/8bdf49f645400c19fe0e6a7067005fd9.jpg):shy:
:thumbsup:
I'm sorry but this stinks of the vendetta the BOT had against Joe.
I mean they called him to fire him over the phone.
My god there's been hundreds of students and scores of media camped out at his house, how in the holy hell do you think they could have fired him in person? Also with the nature of the situation why do you think he deserves that right?
ESPN reported that he was given a phone number by messenger and that number had two BOT members on the other end who did the deed.
That is a CHICKEN crap way to fire this coach.
Bring him in, get to him with police escorts either way.
I find it really odd that Paterno was fired, but the guy that actually saw the assault still has a job.
So, if I get this right, the guy who saw the crime went to his boss (kept his job), who went to his boss (lost his job), and from there stuff gets legal.
I don't know all of the facts, so I'm not going to say what's right or wrong. But at it's basest level, this just seems strange.
seriously eff you. You are one of the worst with your chicken crap attempts at PI posters who disagree with you.I'm sorry but this stinks of the vendetta the BOT had against Joe.
I mean they called him to fire him over the phone.
My god there's been hundreds of students and scores of media camped out at his house, how in the holy hell do you think they could have fired him in person? Also with the nature of the situation why do you think he deserves that right?
ESPN reported that he was given a phone number by messenger and that number had two BOT members on the other end who did the deed.
That is a CHICKEN crap way to fire this coach.
Bring him in, get to him with police escorts either way.
Okay let's disregard the obvious lack of common sense it would have been to fire the man in his home in front of hundreds of irrational possibly drunk students and televison cameras. Let's ignore that since you aren't able to understand this seemingly basic concept.
Again he got fired for allowing a child predator to rape kids unreported and still hang around the school for over a decade after he knew it happened. He let the rapist hang around this season after he knew a grand jury was investigating. What about this says he deserves to be fired him what some people think is a dignified way?
seriously eff you. You are one of the worst with your chicken crap attempts at PI posters who disagree with you.I'm sorry but this stinks of the vendetta the BOT had against Joe.
I mean they called him to fire him over the phone.
My god there's been hundreds of students and scores of media camped out at his house, how in the holy hell do you think they could have fired him in person? Also with the nature of the situation why do you think he deserves that right?
ESPN reported that he was given a phone number by messenger and that number had two BOT members on the other end who did the deed.
That is a CHICKEN crap way to fire this coach.
Bring him in, get to him with police escorts either way.
Okay let's disregard the obvious lack of common sense it would have been to fire the man in his home in front of hundreds of irrational possibly drunk students and televison cameras. Let's ignore that since you aren't able to understand this seemingly basic concept.
Again he got fired for allowing a child predator to rape kids unreported and still hang around the school for over a decade after he knew it happened. He let the rapist hang around this season after he knew a grand jury was investigating. What about this says he deserves to be fired him what some people think is a dignified way?
Its rough ridin' ridiculous to put that scenario together in your mind. You bring him in and you tell him to his face. Its not like the police were out in force being busy doing other crap, escort him in. People knew there was a meeting for the BOT tonight, so it would have been logical to meet with him no matter what the outcome.
He reported the incident where he was told 'something sexual in nature' happened in the locker room. He brought it to his superior's attention. ESPN is even now reporting that when the conversations were had, Joe had no idea what the eff was going on. At that point you have a confused old man who doesn't know what is happening and you want him to do what? Seriously what? The AD dropped the ball that is why he is being charged. The eff head GTA saw it and left campus to let the creeper continue his rape. Who really dropped the ball at this point. The confused old man or the AD and the GTA/his family.
I find it really odd that Paterno was fired, but the guy that actually saw the assault still has a job.
So, if I get this right, the guy who saw the crime went to his boss (kept his job), who went to his boss (lost his job), and from there stuff gets legal.
I don't know all of the facts, so I'm not going to say what's right or wrong. But at it's basest level, this just seems strange.
The board are the only people around that could fire Paterno. Frankly firing an assistant coach is far below the board. He should and will be let go by the acting head coach or AD.
seriously eff you. You are one of the worst with your chicken crap attempts at PI posters who disagree with you.I'm sorry but this stinks of the vendetta the BOT had against Joe.
I mean they called him to fire him over the phone.
My god there's been hundreds of students and scores of media camped out at his house, how in the holy hell do you think they could have fired him in person? Also with the nature of the situation why do you think he deserves that right?
ESPN reported that he was given a phone number by messenger and that number had two BOT members on the other end who did the deed.
That is a CHICKEN crap way to fire this coach.
Bring him in, get to him with police escorts either way.
Okay let's disregard the obvious lack of common sense it would have been to fire the man in his home in front of hundreds of irrational possibly drunk students and televison cameras. Let's ignore that since you aren't able to understand this seemingly basic concept.
Again he got fired for allowing a child predator to rape kids unreported and still hang around the school for over a decade after he knew it happened. He let the rapist hang around this season after he knew a grand jury was investigating. What about this says he deserves to be fired him what some people think is a dignified way?
Its rough ridin' ridiculous to put that scenario together in your mind. You bring him in and you tell him to his face. Its not like the police were out in force being busy doing other crap, escort him in. People knew there was a meeting for the BOT tonight, so it would have been logical to meet with him no matter what the outcome.
He reported the incident where he was told 'something sexual in nature' happened in the locker room. He brought it to his superior's attention. ESPN is even now reporting that when the conversations were had, Joe had no idea what the eff was going on. At that point you have a confused old man who doesn't know what is happening and you want him to do what? Seriously what? The AD dropped the ball that is why he is being charged. The eff head GTA saw it and left campus to let the creeper continue his rape. Who really dropped the ball at this point. The confused old man or the AD and the GTA/his family.
MIR is 100% correct, don't let these dumbsticks get you down.really than why are Penn St papers tweeting that Tim Curley the AD who dropped the ball is still employed (in some capacity) right now.
seriously eff you. You are one of the worst with your chicken crap attempts at PI posters who disagree with you.I'm sorry but this stinks of the vendetta the BOT had against Joe.
I mean they called him to fire him over the phone.
My god there's been hundreds of students and scores of media camped out at his house, how in the holy hell do you think they could have fired him in person? Also with the nature of the situation why do you think he deserves that right?
ESPN reported that he was given a phone number by messenger and that number had two BOT members on the other end who did the deed.
That is a CHICKEN crap way to fire this coach.
Bring him in, get to him with police escorts either way.
Okay let's disregard the obvious lack of common sense it would have been to fire the man in his home in front of hundreds of irrational possibly drunk students and televison cameras. Let's ignore that since you aren't able to understand this seemingly basic concept.
Again he got fired for allowing a child predator to rape kids unreported and still hang around the school for over a decade after he knew it happened. He let the rapist hang around this season after he knew a grand jury was investigating. What about this says he deserves to be fired him what some people think is a dignified way?
Its rough ridin' ridiculous to put that scenario together in your mind. You bring him in and you tell him to his face. Its not like the police were out in force being busy doing other crap, escort him in. People knew there was a meeting for the BOT tonight, so it would have been logical to meet with him no matter what the outcome.
He reported the incident where he was told 'something sexual in nature' happened in the locker room. He brought it to his superior's attention. ESPN is even now reporting that when the conversations were had, Joe had no idea what the eff was going on. At that point you have a confused old man who doesn't know what is happening and you want him to do what? Seriously what? The AD dropped the ball that is why he is being charged. The eff head GTA saw it and left campus to let the creeper continue his rape. Who really dropped the ball at this point. The confused old man or the AD and the GTA/his family.
Quit being so sensitive, are you that intimidated that a differing opinion rates as PI?
You have a very narrow view of this and frankly most situations. Let's make the assumption that he did the 100% correct thing in 2002 when the GA told him what he saw. The question that any rational person would ask is why he had access to the facility alone with little boys 4 years after he was forced into retirement for tada raping a boy in the shower. So then we have a man who was caught raping children on campus grounds two different times yet for over a decade after he knew what happened he continued to give a rapist access to the program and PSU facilities. Sandusky was on campus last week for Gods sake. He didn't just eff up once 9 years ago he mumped up pretty much daily from 1998 until well today.
I find it really odd that Paterno was fired, but the guy that actually saw the assault still has a job.
So, if I get this right, the guy who saw the crime went to his boss (kept his job), who went to his boss (lost his job), and from there stuff gets legal.
I don't know all of the facts, so I'm not going to say what's right or wrong. But at it's basest level, this just seems strange.
The board are the only people around that could fire Paterno. Frankly firing an assistant coach is far below the board. He should and will be let go by the acting head coach or AD.
Yeah, but before today, I mean.
He was roughly 70 years old at that time. How many 70 year olds do you know could handle someone saying your good friend is a child raper?We could set up an experiment with Cosh and Snyder...? :dunno:
I believe Joe Pa had NO IDEA what the eff was going on. I believe he is a confused old guy who shut the entire outside world out to everything but football.
I've been pretty much stuck to this story for the last few days. The one question that has been going through my mind all day is, "What did Paterno really know?" I can assume he did or didn't know this that and the other thing, but those assumptions are wavering.
I'll be honest, I'd rather find out that Joe's only knowledge of any of this is the incident where the GA told him. I'd rather that be the case, though I'm not confident that it is.
I don't know if we'll ever know.
damn him to go at the end of the season for sure. he should have done more. he admits that.I believe Joe Pa had NO IDEA what the eff was going on. I believe he is a confused old guy who shut the entire outside world out to everything but football.
That right there is enough to damn him. So, what's your problem?
I'm not going to settle down. you once again tried to call me out, out of turn. Same thing as the 16 team conference thread and a few others. Once it became clear you had no idea what you were talking about the rest of the crowd turned on you. Don't be a bitch and try to PI people when you can't. Bring a comment, make sense and have a discussion.Even conceding that he "couldn't mentally process" the fact that one of his assistants was doing "something sexual" with a child in the locker room, Paterno is still being immorally negligent and should be fired.
Now you are right that the rest of the ADept dropped the ball letting this rough rider on campus. My understanding is that because he escaped by retiring or 'retiring' he still was allowed campus access. For all we know the chicken crap AD was worried more about this whack job suing for some sort of breach of contract instead of just manning up and axing him.
I believe Joe Pa had NO IDEA what the eff was going on. I believe he is a confused old guy who shut the entire outside world out to everything but football. I think he will be dead in a few years once he retired, now with this on his shoulders, probably sooner.
I've seen two conflicting reports about what he was told. One being the GTA and his daddy told him it was something sexual. the other being something much more graphic and specific. I believe the media lined up the timelines and went with the latter. I think that when things were eventually explained to Joe he shut down and couldn't mentally process it. He was roughly 70 years old at that time. How many 70 year olds do you know could handle someone saying your good friend is a child raper? especially when a chicken crap AD is the one telling you half truths.
I believe Joe Pa had NO IDEA what the eff was going on. I believe he is a confused old guy who shut the entire outside world out to everything but football.
That right there is enough to damn him. So, what's your problem?
I've been pretty much stuck to this story for the last few days. The one question that has been going through my mind all day is, "What did Paterno really know?" I can assume he did or didn't know this that and the other thing, but those assumptions are wavering.
I'll be honest, I'd rather find out that Joe's only knowledge of any of this is the incident where the GA told him. I'd rather that be the case, though I'm not confident that it is.
I don't know if we'll ever know.
Well I'm going to assume that he knew about the incident in 1998, I mean everyone important in Centre County knew. What other people are are having a hard time understanding is that the shower raping in 2002 shouldn't have happened because the creep was caught in 1998. Isn't Paterno the CEO of the football program? The people that had access to that facility is his responsibility. What he knew or didn't know after the second raping in 2002 is irrelevant.
I've been pretty much stuck to this story for the last few days. The one question that has been going through my mind all day is, "What did Paterno really know?" I can assume he did or didn't know this that and the other thing, but those assumptions are wavering.
I'll be honest, I'd rather find out that Joe's only knowledge of any of this is the incident where the GA told him. I'd rather that be the case, though I'm not confident that it is.
I don't know if we'll ever know.
Well I'm going to assume that he knew about the incident in 1998, I mean everyone important in Centre County knew. What other people are are having a hard time understanding is that the shower raping in 2002 shouldn't have happened because the creep was caught in 1998. Isn't Paterno the CEO of the football program? The people that had access to that facility is his responsibility. What he knew or didn't know after the second raping in 2002 is irrelevant.
If you watched him in front of his home, I still don't think he understands he is done at PennSt.
oh you mean the attack which the police didn't purse and the ADA didn't file charges onI believe Joe Pa had NO IDEA what the eff was going on. I believe he is a confused old guy who shut the entire outside world out to everything but football.
That right there is enough to damn him. So, what's your problem?
The dude posted and reposted a link that Jerry Sandusky raped a kid in the shower in 1998. The rape was reported and investigated, even the victims mother knew, Sandusky was forced to resign, but this edn dude is focusing on what Paterno knew after the THIRD shower raping in 2002.
He's either too stupid or hard headed to realize how stupid the "he didn't know" defense is.
I was just going by what ESPN said specifically. Also the way he acts on the sidelines and in press conferences doesn't make me believe he is all there.If you watched him in front of his home, I still don't think he understands he is done at PennSt.
Why do you think he doesn't know what's going on? He doesn't speak well obviously, but if you listen to what he's actually saying it's surprisingly coherent. I've watched the scene with him in front of his house a few times and haven't seen a senile old man.
oh you mean the attack which the police didn't purse and the ADA didn't file charges onI believe Joe Pa had NO IDEA what the eff was going on. I believe he is a confused old guy who shut the entire outside world out to everything but football.
That right there is enough to damn him. So, what's your problem?
The dude posted and reposted a link that Jerry Sandusky raped a kid in the shower in 1998. The rape was reported and investigated, even the victims mother knew, Sandusky was forced to resign, but this edn dude is focusing on what Paterno knew after the THIRD shower raping in 2002.
He's either too stupid or hard headed to realize how stupid the "he didn't know" defense is.
or the attack that NO ONE reported to the police or school admin
1998 -- Penn State police and the Pennsylvania Department of Public Welfare investigate an incident in which the mother of an 11-year-old boy reported that Sandusky had showered with her son and may have had inappropriate conduct with him. In a June 1, 1998, interview with investigators from both agencies, Sandusky admits showering naked with the boy, admitting that it was wrong and promising not to do it again, according to the grand jury report. The district attorney advises investigators that no charges will be filed and the university police chief instructs that the case be closed, according to the testimony included in the grand jury report of the police detective who investigated the incident.
1999 -- Sandusky retires from Penn State after coaching there for 32 years, but stays on as a volunteer and retains full access to the campus and football facilities.
2000 -- Sandusky allegedly showers with a young boy and tries to touch his genitals during overnight stays at the coach's house, according to the now 24-year-old man's testimony included in the grand jury report.
2000 -- Tim Calhoun, a janitor at the Lasch Football Building on the Penn State campus, tells his supervisor and another janitor that he saw Sandusky performing oral sex on a young boy, according to the grand jury report. A second janitor reported that he saw Sandusky and a boy leave a shower room and walk out of the building hand in hand. No one reports the incident to university officials or law enforcement, according to the grand jury report.
This is where it becomes apparent to everyone in the thread you don't know what the eff you are talking about and you keep trying to be a smart ass.
I've been pretty much stuck to this story for the last few days. The one question that has been going through my mind all day is, "What did Paterno really know?" I can assume he did or didn't know this that and the other thing, but those assumptions are wavering.
I'll be honest, I'd rather find out that Joe's only knowledge of any of this is the incident where the GA told him. I'd rather that be the case, though I'm not confident that it is.
I don't know if we'll ever know.
Well I'm going to assume that he knew about the incident in 1998, I mean everyone important in Centre County knew. What other people are are having a hard time understanding is that the shower raping in 2002 shouldn't have happened because the creep was caught in 1998. Isn't Paterno the CEO of the football program? The people that had access to that facility is his responsibility. What he knew or didn't know after the second raping in 2002 is irrelevant.
Exactly, you assume it, and I begrudgingly do to. But I don't want to believe tat Joe Pa knowingly let this scumbag continue to victimize kids. We'll probably never know for sure, and maybe it is best to stop worrying about what Joe knew. He has to deal with his conscience regardless of whether we know the truth or not.
are you even reading stuff or are you just making this up as you go along?I've been pretty much stuck to this story for the last few days. The one question that has been going through my mind all day is, "What did Paterno really know?" I can assume he did or didn't know this that and the other thing, but those assumptions are wavering.
I'll be honest, I'd rather find out that Joe's only knowledge of any of this is the incident where the GA told him. I'd rather that be the case, though I'm not confident that it is.
I don't know if we'll ever know.
Well I'm going to assume that he knew about the incident in 1998, I mean everyone important in Centre County knew. What other people are are having a hard time understanding is that the shower raping in 2002 shouldn't have happened because the creep was caught in 1998. Isn't Paterno the CEO of the football program? The people that had access to that facility is his responsibility. What he knew or didn't know after the second raping in 2002 is irrelevant.
Exactly, you assume it, and I begrudgingly do to. But I don't want to believe tat Joe Pa knowingly let this scumbag continue to victimize kids. We'll probably never know for sure, and maybe it is best to stop worrying about what Joe knew. He has to deal with his conscience regardless of whether we know the truth or not.
Stop worshipping sports personalities like rough ridin' gods. The man one person below him on the totem pole was CAUGHT raping children at the place of work that they share three times in four years. The AD knew, he was forced into retirement, the campus cops knew, the DA knew, the state department of child welfare knew, the parents knew, janitors knew, janitor supervisors knew, but the rapists immediate supervisor didn't? Come on man, you can't even play devils advocate with credibility faced with these facts. What other walk of life would this even be a question about after the first time, we're talking about what he knew after the third time nic.
oh you mean the attack which the police didn't purse and the ADA didn't file charges onI believe Joe Pa had NO IDEA what the eff was going on. I believe he is a confused old guy who shut the entire outside world out to everything but football.
That right there is enough to damn him. So, what's your problem?
The dude posted and reposted a link that Jerry Sandusky raped a kid in the shower in 1998. The rape was reported and investigated, even the victims mother knew, Sandusky was forced to resign, but this edn dude is focusing on what Paterno knew after the THIRD shower raping in 2002.
He's either too stupid or hard headed to realize how stupid the "he didn't know" defense is.
or the attack that NO ONE reported to the police or school admin
1998 -- Penn State police and the Pennsylvania Department of Public Welfare investigate an incident in which the mother of an 11-year-old boy reported that Sandusky had showered with her son and may have had inappropriate conduct with him. In a June 1, 1998, interview with investigators from both agencies, Sandusky admits showering naked with the boy, admitting that it was wrong and promising not to do it again, according to the grand jury report. The district attorney advises investigators that no charges will be filed and the university police chief instructs that the case be closed, according to the testimony included in the grand jury report of the police detective who investigated the incident.
1999 -- Sandusky retires from Penn State after coaching there for 32 years, but stays on as a volunteer and retains full access to the campus and football facilities.
2000 -- Sandusky allegedly showers with a young boy and tries to touch his genitals during overnight stays at the coach's house, according to the now 24-year-old man's testimony included in the grand jury report.
2000 -- Tim Calhoun, a janitor at the Lasch Football Building on the Penn State campus, tells his supervisor and another janitor that he saw Sandusky performing oral sex on a young boy, according to the grand jury report. A second janitor reported that he saw Sandusky and a boy leave a shower room and walk out of the building hand in hand. No one reports the incident to university officials or law enforcement, according to the grand jury report.
This is where it becomes apparent to everyone in the thread you don't know what the eff you are talking about and you keep trying to be a smart ass.
:facepalm:
oh you mean the attack which the police didn't purse and the ADA didn't file charges onI believe Joe Pa had NO IDEA what the eff was going on. I believe he is a confused old guy who shut the entire outside world out to everything but football.
That right there is enough to damn him. So, what's your problem?
The dude posted and reposted a link that Jerry Sandusky raped a kid in the shower in 1998. The rape was reported and investigated, even the victims mother knew, Sandusky was forced to resign, but this edn dude is focusing on what Paterno knew after the THIRD shower raping in 2002.
He's either too stupid or hard headed to realize how stupid the "he didn't know" defense is.
or the attack that NO ONE reported to the police or school admin
1998 -- Penn State police and the Pennsylvania Department of Public Welfare investigate an incident in which the mother of an 11-year-old boy reported that Sandusky had showered with her son and may have had inappropriate conduct with him. In a June 1, 1998, interview with investigators from both agencies, Sandusky admits showering naked with the boy, admitting that it was wrong and promising not to do it again, according to the grand jury report. The district attorney advises investigators that no charges will be filed and the university police chief instructs that the case be closed, according to the testimony included in the grand jury report of the police detective who investigated the incident.
1999 -- Sandusky retires from Penn State after coaching there for 32 years, but stays on as a volunteer and retains full access to the campus and football facilities.
2000 -- Sandusky allegedly showers with a young boy and tries to touch his genitals during overnight stays at the coach's house, according to the now 24-year-old man's testimony included in the grand jury report.
2000 -- Tim Calhoun, a janitor at the Lasch Football Building on the Penn State campus, tells his supervisor and another janitor that he saw Sandusky performing oral sex on a young boy, according to the grand jury report. A second janitor reported that he saw Sandusky and a boy leave a shower room and walk out of the building hand in hand. No one reports the incident to university officials or law enforcement, according to the grand jury report.
This is where it becomes apparent to everyone in the thread you don't know what the eff you are talking about and you keep trying to be a smart ass.
oh you mean the attack which the police didn't purse and the ADA didn't file charges onI believe Joe Pa had NO IDEA what the eff was going on. I believe he is a confused old guy who shut the entire outside world out to everything but football.
That right there is enough to damn him. So, what's your problem?
The dude posted and reposted a link that Jerry Sandusky raped a kid in the shower in 1998. The rape was reported and investigated, even the victims mother knew, Sandusky was forced to resign, but this edn dude is focusing on what Paterno knew after the THIRD shower raping in 2002.
He's either too stupid or hard headed to realize how stupid the "he didn't know" defense is.
or the attack that NO ONE reported to the police or school admin
1998 -- Penn State police and the Pennsylvania Department of Public Welfare investigate an incident in which the mother of an 11-year-old boy reported that Sandusky had showered with her son and may have had inappropriate conduct with him. In a June 1, 1998, interview with investigators from both agencies, Sandusky admits showering naked with the boy, admitting that it was wrong and promising not to do it again, according to the grand jury report. The district attorney advises investigators that no charges will be filed and the university police chief instructs that the case be closed, according to the testimony included in the grand jury report of the police detective who investigated the incident.
1999 -- Sandusky retires from Penn State after coaching there for 32 years, but stays on as a volunteer and retains full access to the campus and football facilities.
2000 -- Sandusky allegedly showers with a young boy and tries to touch his genitals during overnight stays at the coach's house, according to the now 24-year-old man's testimony included in the grand jury report.
2000 -- Tim Calhoun, a janitor at the Lasch Football Building on the Penn State campus, tells his supervisor and another janitor that he saw Sandusky performing oral sex on a young boy, according to the grand jury report. A second janitor reported that he saw Sandusky and a boy leave a shower room and walk out of the building hand in hand. No one reports the incident to university officials or law enforcement, according to the grand jury report.
This is where it becomes apparent to everyone in the thread you don't know what the eff you are talking about and you keep trying to be a smart ass.
Holy crap! You really do believe that the AD, campus police, city police, county DA, the state of Pennsylvania, the parents of the victims, and janitors who clean the facility knew but the rapists immediate supervisor who works with the rapist every single day at the place where the rapes occurred didn't know. I am at a loss for words. I hope you never are in charge or supervising a group of people, its highly likely that NAMBLA may run the entire orginization out of your office.
Pennsylvania's a dangerous football state. Vick in Philly, Sandusky in State College, BigBen in Pitt. Thats a (dog) murderers row of rapists
I know the timeline MIR. But what is on the timeline isn't necessarily what Paterno knew at that time. Still, I find it hard to believe that Paterno never caught wind of anything. Sandusky was in the PSU weightroom last week, that should tell us all we need to know.
BTW, it isn't about making Gods out of sports figures, it is about wanting to believe that people that you have been led to believe are good people actually are good.
I know the timeline MIR. But what is on the timeline isn't necessarily what Paterno knew at that time. Still, I find it hard to believe that Paterno never caught wind of anything. Sandusky was in the PSU weightroom last week, that should tell us all we need to know.
BTW, it isn't about making Gods out of sports figures, it is about wanting to believe that people that you have been led to believe are good people actually are good.
Tiger got hung out to dry for rough ridin' some hoes and no one gives a crap.
JoePa is old and lacks integrity to see that a molester isn't allowed to molest any longer and people want to get pissed that he's fired?
Give me a break. No one is saying Joe is the only one to blame. But he deserves blame, and from that blame, deserves firing (among many others). If you want to get mad that other people still have jobs, fine, but don't get mad because an old man lost his job. He puts on his depends just like the rest of them, at least he'll get good care and not be in a home. :)
I know the timeline MIR. But what is on the timeline isn't necessarily what Paterno knew at that time. Still, I find it hard to believe that Paterno never caught wind of anything. Sandusky was in the PSU weightroom last week, that should tell us all we need to know.
BTW, it isn't about making Gods out of sports figures, it is about wanting to believe that people that you have been led to believe are good people actually are good.
Tiger got hung out to dry for rough ridin' some hoes and no one gives a crap.
JoePa is old and lacks integrity to see that a molester isn't allowed to molest any longer and people want to get pissed that he's fired?
Give me a break. No one is saying Joe is the only one to blame. But he deserves blame, and from that blame, deserves firing (among many others). If you want to get mad that other people still have jobs, fine, but don't get mad because an old man lost his job. He puts on his depends just like the rest of them, at least he'll get good care and not be in a home. :)
What are you talking about. My post didn't have anything to do with anything you're talking about. I basically said, and have been saying that if Joe Pa knew what was going on and did nothing that he should be held to the coals. I just can't be completely sure that he did know.
I know the timeline MIR. But what is on the timeline isn't necessarily what Paterno knew at that time. Still, I find it hard to believe that Paterno never caught wind of anything. Sandusky was in the PSU weightroom last week, that should tell us all we need to know.
BTW, it isn't about making Gods out of sports figures, it is about wanting to believe that people that you have been led to believe are good people actually are good.
PSU football fans now don't have to go through all the weirdness we do about how in the eff do we fire our super-old HOF football coach.
Crazy way for JoePa to end his career. A humongous black eye on the face of a man whose only blemish up to this point has been his GIANT rough ridin' NOSE.
^what I would tweet if I were a tweet-guy
JoPa has been guilty of similar hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil behavior with his players for years and years.
TheBigLead Jason McIntyre
Uh-oh RT @nathanielkraft Mark Madden just said on WEEI that reports coming that Sandusky & Second Mile pimped out young boys to rich donors
Dear ednksu,
It doesn't matter if Paterno was told that his assistant coach was anally raping a 10 year old, or just "doing something sexual." Doesn't. rough ridin'. Matter. Still sexual assault on a child. Still needs to be fired, banned from the complex, and reported to the police. Anyone who saw it, was told about it, or knew about it, should be fired for not going to the police. Instead Paterno allowed this molester to RUN A CHARITY FOR CHILDREN FROM HIS OFFICE AT THE FOOTBALL FACILITY and continue to have access to the facilites/locker rooms/showers. GMAFB with the Paterno is too old bullshit defense. If he is coherent enough to even act like he is running a major football program, he is coherent enough to know what the right thing to do was.
Love,
8manpick
I think you'll find out that Jerry Sandusky was told he had to retire in exchange for a cover up
http://www.businessinsider.com/jerry-sandusky-donors-2011-11
QuoteI think you'll find out that Jerry Sandusky was told he had to retire in exchange for a cover up
Here's his piece from 6 months ago.
You're about 80 years too old for him Joe, hands off
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:sdeek:
Can't decide if I picked the worst weekend or best weekend to go to Penn State.
Going tomorrow night :runaway:
Can't imagine what Nebraska fans are going to do with this. :sdeek:
:sdeek:
Can't decide if I picked the worst weekend or best weekend to go to Penn State.
Going tomorrow night :runaway:
Can't imagine what Nebraska fans are going to do with this. :sdeek:
:sdeek:
Can't decide if I picked the worst weekend or best weekend to go to Penn State.
Going tomorrow night :runaway:
Can't imagine what Nebraska fans are going to do with this. :sdeek:
Best. No question. There will never be another weekend like this in college football.
This is just too much. I just heard on Mike and Mike that, as we all suspected, Sandusky was "definitely visible" within the PSU program even after the 2002 incident. This comes from an interview they did with former PSU Paul Pasloski, who didn't arrive on campus until 2003, a year after the McQueary incident occurred.
Pasloski said that, "He was definitely visible, and around. He was the guy you went to, because of his Second Mile foundation, when you wanted to do some work in the community." This was throughout Pasloski's entire time at PSU. There is no way that Joe Paterno didn't know and to knowingly harbor this guy on campus along with the rest of the PSU higher-ups is unforgivable.
I'm going to be live tweeting this entire weekend, so stay tuned!
I'm going to be live tweeting this entire weekend, so stay tuned!
:excited:
I'm thinking a subsequent guest blog with a full report from the scene from the emaw perspective.
I'm going to be live tweeting this entire weekend, so stay tuned!
:excited:
I'm thinking a subsequent guest blog with a full report from the scene from the emaw perspective.
Pictures.
Also, goEMAW should come up with some obviously fake credentials and you should do fake interviews.
QuoteTheBigLead Jason McIntyre
Uh-oh RT @nathanielkraft Mark Madden just said on WEEI that reports coming that Sandusky & Second Mile pimped out young boys to rich donors
:eek:
Crazy way for JoePa to end his career. A humongous black eye on the face of a man whose only blemish up to this point has been his GIANT rough ridin' NOSE.
^what I would tweet if I were a tweet-guy
JoPa has been guilty of similar hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil behavior with his players for years and years.
I bet you're a blast at parties.
This is just too much. I just heard on Mike and Mike that, as we all suspected, Sandusky was "definitely visible" within the PSU program even after the 2002 incident. This comes from an interview they did with former PSU Paul Pasloski, who didn't arrive on campus until 2003, a year after the McQueary incident occurred.
Pasloski said that, "He was definitely visible, and around. He was the guy you went to, because of his Second Mile foundation, when you wanted to do some work in the community." This was throughout Pasloski's entire time at PSU. There is no way that Joe Paterno didn't know and to knowingly harbor this guy on campus along with the rest of the PSU higher-ups is unforgivable.
nic, he was freaking there last week, last week.
I'm going to be live tweeting this entire weekend, so stay tuned!
:excited:
I'm thinking a subsequent guest blog with a full report from the scene from the emaw perspective.
Pictures.
Also, goEMAW should come up with some obviously fake credentials and you should do fake interviews.
YES. We rented an RV and I called today and they said that full insurance coverage is included in my rental, so let it burn, baby!
This is just too much. I just heard on Mike and Mike that, as we all suspected, Sandusky was "definitely visible" within the PSU program even after the 2002 incident. This comes from an interview they did with former PSU Paul Pasloski, who didn't arrive on campus until 2003, a year after the McQueary incident occurred.
Pasloski said that, "He was definitely visible, and around. He was the guy you went to, because of his Second Mile foundation, when you wanted to do some work in the community." This was throughout Pasloski's entire time at PSU. There is no way that Joe Paterno didn't know and to knowingly harbor this guy on campus along with the rest of the PSU higher-ups is unforgivable.
nic, he was freaking there last week, last week.
I know man.
question? would you watch a 60-minutes interview with Joe Pa where a highly skilled interviewer talks to him for 15 to 20 minutes? I know I would.
I'm going to be live tweeting this entire weekend, so stay tuned!
:excited:
I'm thinking a subsequent guest blog with a full report from the scene from the emaw perspective.
Pictures.
Also, goEMAW should come up with some obviously fake credentials and you should do fake interviews.
YES. We rented an RV and I called today and they said that full insurance coverage is included in my rental, so let it burn, baby!
You should interview Nebraska fans and ask them how they feel about Tom Osborne raping kids.
I'm going to be live tweeting this entire weekend, so stay tuned!
:excited:
I'm thinking a subsequent guest blog with a full report from the scene from the emaw perspective.
Pictures.
Also, goEMAW should come up with some obviously fake credentials and you should do fake interviews.
YES. We rented an RV and I called today and they said that full insurance coverage is included in my rental, so let it burn, baby!
You should interview Nebraska fans and ask them how they feel about Tom Osborne raping kids.
When they start to correct you, just use a high-pitched voice and say "I'm preeeeetty sure it was Tom Osborne."
I hope everyone realizes that this is just the tip of the iceberg. I mean, they haven't even started throwing each other under buses yet to save their own ass. Curley, Schultz, and Sandusky (if he doesn't kill himself...which seems likely) will try to cut deals with the DA by implicating other people. JoePa, McQueery and Spanier will point the finger at everyone else in a pathetic attempt to save their reputations. With everything that's already gone on it's hard to imagine, but this is just getting started.
:popcorn:
BTW, I put the O/U at 2 weeks before Sandusky offs himself. :sdeek:
Good info, TBLuke.
I'm going to be live tweeting this entire weekend, so stay tuned!
:excited:
I'm thinking a subsequent guest blog with a full report from the scene from the emaw perspective.
Pictures.
Also, goEMAW should come up with some obviously fake credentials and you should do fake interviews.
YES. We rented an RV and I called today and they said that full insurance coverage is included in my rental, so let it burn, baby!
You should interview Nebraska fans and ask them how they feel about Tom Osborne raping kids.
When they start to correct you, just use a high-pitched voice and say "I'm preeeeetty sure it was Tom Osborne."
:thumbs:
Solicit donations for BBBS, the preeminent no-rape charity for underprivileged children.
Ok serious question, where can I rent a legit looking tv camera and a camera guy on short notice.
I'm sure I could pass for one of those not well known women sports reporters if I dress nice a la Erin Andrews in my trench coat.
Don't really want to get hit with rocks though, so probably need to rent a body guard too.
TIA.
Ok serious question, where can I rent a legit looking tv camera and a camera guy on short notice.
I'm sure I could pass for one of those not well known women sports reporters if I dress nice a la Erin Andrews in my trench coat.
Don't really want to get hit with rocks though, so probably need to rent a body guard too.
TIA.
Get some young, eager kids from a philly school's broadcast journalism dept. to go with you.
Ok serious question, where can I rent a legit looking tv camera and a camera guy on short notice.
I'm sure I could pass for one of those not well known women sports reporters if I dress nice a la Erin Andrews in my trench coat.
Don't really want to get hit with rocks though, so probably need to rent a body guard too.
TIA.
Crazy way for JoePa to end his career. A humongous black eye on the face of a man whose only blemish up to this point has been his GIANT rough ridin' NOSE.
^what I would tweet if I were a tweet-guy
JoPa has been guilty of similar hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil behavior with his players for years and years.
I bet you're a blast at parties.
I seriously have no idea what your post means, I think you may be whining because it appears that I had the audacity to disagree with you, but I'm wouldn't think you're that thin-skinned. Anyway,
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/the_bonus/02/27/cfb.crime/index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/the_bonus/02/27/cfb.crime/index.html)
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3504915 (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3504915)
http://onwardstate.com/2011/03/03/penn-state-football-arrests-with-honor/ (http://onwardstate.com/2011/03/03/penn-state-football-arrests-with-honor/)
In retrospect this stuff is small timey compared with what was going on there, but the point is that this week isn't his first black eye. You can also find many other articles detailing PSU football crime and cover up. I have a buddy who was an athlete at PSU who has great stories about football players in State College.
So is it safe to assume JoePa sold his soul to the Devil in 1966 to one day become the winningest college football coach ever? And the Devil came to collect less than 2 weeks after it happened?
You should interview Nebraska fans and ask them how they feel about Tom Osborne raping kids.
When they start to correct you, just use a high-pitched voice and say "I'm preeeeetty sure it was Tom Osborne."
Ok serious question, where can I rent a legit looking tv camera and a camera guy on short notice.
I'm sure I could pass for one of those not well known women sports reporters if I dress nice a la Erin Andrews in my trench coat.
Don't really want to get hit with rocks though, so probably need to rent a body guard too.
TIA.
Get some young, eager kids from a philly school's broadcast journalism dept. to go with you.
And by kids, I mean college students, not 10-year-old boys.
Crazy way for JoePa to end his career. A humongous black eye on the face of a man whose only blemish up to this point has been his GIANT rough ridin' NOSE.
^what I would tweet if I were a tweet-guy
JoPa has been guilty of similar hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil behavior with his players for years and years.
I bet you're a blast at parties.
I seriously have no idea what your post means, I think you may be whining because it appears that I had the audacity to disagree with you, but I'm wouldn't think you're that thin-skinned. Anyway,
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/the_bonus/02/27/cfb.crime/index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/the_bonus/02/27/cfb.crime/index.html)
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3504915 (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3504915)
http://onwardstate.com/2011/03/03/penn-state-football-arrests-with-honor/ (http://onwardstate.com/2011/03/03/penn-state-football-arrests-with-honor/)
In retrospect this stuff is small timey compared with what was going on there, but the point is that this week isn't his first black eye. You can also find many other articles detailing PSU football crime and cover up. I have a buddy who was an athlete at PSU who has great stories about football players in State College.
It means it was a rough ridin' joke about Joe Paterno's big schnoz. Chill out there, internet tough guy.
So is it safe to assume JoePa sold his soul to the Devil in 1966 to one day become the winningest college football coach ever? And the Devil came to collect less than 2 weeks after it happened?
coach OKCatBro will be coaching saturday. man.
Crazy way for JoePa to end his career. A humongous black eye on the face of a man whose only blemish up to this point has been his GIANT rough ridin' NOSE.
^what I would tweet if I were a tweet-guy
JoPa has been guilty of similar hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil behavior with his players for years and years.
I bet you're a blast at parties.
I seriously have no idea what your post means, I think you may be whining because it appears that I had the audacity to disagree with you, but I'm wouldn't think you're that thin-skinned. Anyway,
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/the_bonus/02/27/cfb.crime/index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/the_bonus/02/27/cfb.crime/index.html)
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3504915 (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3504915)
http://onwardstate.com/2011/03/03/penn-state-football-arrests-with-honor/ (http://onwardstate.com/2011/03/03/penn-state-football-arrests-with-honor/)
In retrospect this stuff is small timey compared with what was going on there, but the point is that this week isn't his first black eye. You can also find many other articles detailing PSU football crime and cover up. I have a buddy who was an athlete at PSU who has great stories about football players in State College.
It means it was a rough ridin' joke about Joe Paterno's big schnoz. Chill out there, internet tough guy.
:confused: awfully sensitive for a guy who went on national television with a sign about two guys having a lemon party
So is it safe to assume JoePa sold his soul to the Devil in 1966 to one day become the winningest college football coach ever? And the Devil came to collect less than 2 weeks after it happened?
If it is the case, Pretty sure JoePa got the better of the deal. I mean, unless the Devil had other reasons for early termination of the contract, it would be null and void at this point. JoePa off the hook(soul wise).
know MM is from the area, so wondering if he might be a candidate for the job opening.
Phog gem: Any chance Penn State hires Mangino? (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=8231519)I'm sure they'll go from a guy that allegedly ignored a child abuse ring to a guy that allegedly oversaw a player abuse ring.Quote from: el situacionknow MM is from the area, so wondering if he might be a candidate for the job opening.
coach OKCatBro will be coaching saturday. man.
I am just glad that everything worked out for OK_Cat in this ordeal
Joe Posnanski is melting down and defending Paterno because he gave him access to write a book. :flush:
Joe Posnanski is melting down and defending Paterno because he gave him access to write a book. :flush:
I hate that the media is so predictable
getnickwright nick wright
People asking why McQueary has a job, it's almost assuredly because he was the "whistle blower" on this thing. If they fire him, he can sue.
Quotegetnickwright nick wright
People asking why McQueary has a job, it's almost assuredly because he was the "whistle blower" on this thing. If they fire him, he can sue.
BSAC confirm?
the POS should never coach again. This is a joke.
Joe Posnanski is melting down and defending Paterno because he gave him access to write a book. :flush:
I hate that the media is so predictable
predictable as in "making themselves a part of the story" and "going after people, except, you know, the guy who raped the kids"
that predictable?
Quotegetnickwright nick wright
People asking why McQueary has a job, it's almost assuredly because he was the "whistle blower" on this thing. If they fire him, he can sue.
BSAC confirm?
the POS should never coach again. This is a joke.
why? (this isn't because i knew him at one point)
This isn't a football issue. It's a horrible set of events that happened around football, but it's not a football issue.
Joe Posnanski is melting down and defending Paterno because he gave him access to write a book. :flush:
I hate that the media is so predictable
predictable as in "making themselves a part of the story" and "going after people, except, you know, the guy who raped the kids"
that predictable?
Media people being butthurt because the people in trouble helped them out in the past, and darn it, that's not fair. All should be forgiven in Joe Posnanski's eyes because Paterno helped him write a book once. All he gives a crap about is his personal interests.
Lets me clarify something. Posnanski was writing a book about Paterno right now, and he's getting access to him for a fluff piece. Then all this crap came down. He's getting an amazing opportunity to do some real journalism. I'm not sure if Posnanski is up to it. He'll need to re-evaluate what he's doing.
Quotegetnickwright nick wright
People asking why McQueary has a job, it's almost assuredly because he was the "whistle blower" on this thing. If they fire him, he can sue.
BSAC confirm?
the POS should never coach again. This is a joke.
Quotegetnickwright nick wright
People asking why McQueary has a job, it's almost assuredly because he was the "whistle blower" on this thing. If they fire him, he can sue.
BSAC confirm?
the POS should never coach again. This is a joke.
why? (this isn't because i knew him at one point)
This isn't a football issue. It's a horrible set of events that happened around football, but it's not a football issue.
Quotegetnickwright nick wright
People asking why McQueary has a job, it's almost assuredly because he was the "whistle blower" on this thing. If they fire him, he can sue.
BSAC confirm?
the POS should never coach again. This is a joke.
why? (this isn't because i knew him at one point)
This isn't a football issue. It's a horrible set of events that happened around football, but it's not a football issue.
A football coach molesting children caught by a football coaching assistant in a football complex covered up by the football teams administration.
Yup, not a football issue. You are totally right OK cat.
Who will play JoePa in the movie? I vote Mark Paul-Gossllaaalaaaarrr. :crossfingers:
Quotegetnickwright nick wright
People asking why McQueary has a job, it's almost assuredly because he was the "whistle blower" on this thing. If they fire him, he can sue.
BSAC confirm?
the POS should never coach again. This is a joke.
Not BSAC but can confirm that whistle blowers are protected, although I'm not sure that would apply here. Even if it did the cash settlement would be worth the cost of letting him go, they have to white wash that program.
Quotegetnickwright nick wright
People asking why McQueary has a job, it's almost assuredly because he was the "whistle blower" on this thing. If they fire him, he can sue.
BSAC confirm?
the POS should never coach again. This is a joke.
why? (this isn't because i knew him at one point)
This isn't a football issue. It's a horrible set of events that happened around football, but it's not a football issue.
A football coach molesting children caught by a football coaching assistant in a football complex covered up by the football teams administration.
Yup, not a football issue. You are totally right OK cat.
Not a football issue, dumbass. Do you think the football team will face NCAA sanctions? No. The key figures are on the football staff, but it's not a story about football and never has been.
Quotegetnickwright nick wright
People asking why McQueary has a job, it's almost assuredly because he was the "whistle blower" on this thing. If they fire him, he can sue.
BSAC confirm?
the POS should never coach again. This is a joke.
why? (this isn't because i knew him at one point)
This isn't a football issue. It's a horrible set of events that happened around football, but it's not a football issue.
A football coach molesting children caught by a football coaching assistant in a football complex covered up by the football teams administration.
Yup, not a football issue. You are totally right OK cat.
Not a football issue, dumbass. Do you think the football team will face NCAA sanctions? No. The key figures are on the football staff, but it's not a story about football and never has been.
Lets me clarify something. Posnanski was writing a book about Paterno right now, and he's getting access to him for a fluff piece. Then all this crap came down. He's getting an amazing opportunity to do some real journalism. I'm not sure if Posnanski is up to it. He'll need to re-evaluate what he's doing.
Quotegetnickwright nick wright
People asking why McQueary has a job, it's almost assuredly because he was the "whistle blower" on this thing. If they fire him, he can sue.
BSAC confirm?
the POS should never coach again. This is a joke.
why? (this isn't because i knew him at one point)
This isn't a football issue. It's a horrible set of events that happened around football, but it's not a football issue.
A football coach molesting children caught by a football coaching assistant in a football complex covered up by the football teams administration.
Yup, not a football issue. You are totally right OK cat.
Not a football issue, dumbass. Do you think the football team will face NCAA sanctions? No. The key figures are on the football staff, but it's not a story about football and never has been.
Yup. Totally right there OK cat. It's definitely not a football issue. That's why the head football coach was fired, because it's such a non-football issue.
Dumbass.
The thing that pisses me off about the general public in all of this is that people use knee-jerk reactions to jump to conclusions.
Quotegetnickwright nick wright
People asking why McQueary has a job, it's almost assuredly because he was the "whistle blower" on this thing. If they fire him, he can sue.
BSAC confirm?
the POS should never coach again. This is a joke.
why? (this isn't because i knew him at one point)
This isn't a football issue. It's a horrible set of events that happened around football, but it's not a football issue.
A football coach molesting children caught by a football coaching assistant in a football complex covered up by the football teams administration.
Yup, not a football issue. You are totally right OK cat.
Not a football issue, dumbass. Do you think the football team will face NCAA sanctions? No. The key figures are on the football staff, but it's not a story about football and never has been.
Yup. Totally right there OK cat. It's definitely not a football issue. That's why the head football coach was fired, because it's such a non-football issue.
Dumbass.
Which is why there were riots and protests last night. The general public and the media goons wanted blood, and the board of trustees buckled. If people really cared about this story, they'd be more worried about forming angry mobs and finding sandusky. You know, the real criminal.
The thing that pisses me off about the general public in all of this is that people use knee-jerk reactions to jump to conclusions.
the thing that pisses me off is the anal rape ofa 10 year old20 or so significantly underage boys. but that's just me.
Quotegetnickwright nick wright
People asking why McQueary has a job, it's almost assuredly because he was the "whistle blower" on this thing. If they fire him, he can sue.
BSAC confirm?
the POS should never coach again. This is a joke.
why? (this isn't because i knew him at one point)
This isn't a football issue. It's a horrible set of events that happened around football, but it's not a football issue.
A football coach molesting children caught by a football coaching assistant in a football complex covered up by the football teams administration.
Yup, not a football issue. You are totally right OK cat.
Not a football issue, dumbass. Do you think the football team will face NCAA sanctions? No. The key figures are on the football staff, but it's not a story about football and never has been.
Yup. Totally right there OK cat. It's definitely not a football issue. That's why the head football coach was fired, because it's such a non-football issue.
Dumbass.
Which is why there were riots and protests last night. The general public and the media goons wanted blood, and the board of trustees buckled. If people really cared about this story, they'd be more worried about forming angry mobs and finding sandusky. You know, the real criminal.
Those "riots" and "protests" were Penn State students Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Who were so loyal to JoePa they didn't want him fired. They were a little biased, no?
Your buddy doesn't deserve to coach because he is a piece of crap and can never be trusted to do the right thing. It's pretty simple, regardless of whether this is a "football issue" or not.
But go ahead, keep being edgy and disagreeing with everyone else for the sake of edginess.
There are two JoPa scenarios here:
1. He knew and was complicit in covering for Sandusky.
2. He didn't know anything about it.
Both are grounds for termination. And No. 2 is really, really hard to believe. I suppose it's possible though incredibly unlikely.
What about the janitors? You haven't said anything about how they should never be allowed to be janitors ever again.
Not being edgy, moron. I disagree with you because I can step back from the situation and see the big picture. You're so hell-bent on everyone who knew sandusky to be burned at the stake that you aren't making any sense. What about the janitors? You haven't said anything about how they should never be allowed to be janitors ever again.
I will personally see to it that those janitors are never allowed to sweep another floor or scrub another toilet again.
What about the janitors? You haven't said anything about how they should never be allowed to be janitors ever again.
If they saw it, and didn't tell the police, are they not complicit? Accessories after the fact? Low legal IQ here, but shouldn't they be prosecuted?
Quotegetnickwright nick wright
People asking why McQueary has a job, it's almost assuredly because he was the "whistle blower" on this thing. If they fire him, he can sue.
BSAC confirm?
the POS should never coach again. This is a joke.
why? (this isn't because i knew him at one point)
This isn't a football issue. It's a horrible set of events that happened around football, but it's not a football issue.
A football coach molesting children caught by a football coaching assistant in a football complex covered up by the football teams administration.
Yup, not a football issue. You are totally right OK cat.
Not a football issue, dumbass. Do you think the football team will face NCAA sanctions? No. The key figures are on the football staff, but it's not a story about football and never has been.
Yup. Totally right there OK cat. It's definitely not a football issue. That's why the head football coach was fired, because it's such a non-football issue.
Dumbass.
Which is why there were riots and protests last night. The general public and the media goons wanted blood, and the board of trustees buckled. If people really cared about this story, they'd be more worried about forming angry mobs and finding sandusky. You know, the real criminal.
Those "riots" and "protests" were Penn State students Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Who were so loyal to JoePa they didn't want him fired. They were a little biased, no?
Your buddy doesn't deserve to coach because he is a piece of crap and can never be trusted to do the right thing. It's pretty simple, regardless of whether this is a "football issue" or not.
But go ahead, keep being edgy and disagreeing with everyone else for the sake of edginess.
Not being edgy, moron. I disagree with you because I can step back from the situation and see the big picture. You're so hell-bent on everyone who knew sandusky to be burned at the stake that you aren't making any sense. What about the janitors? You haven't said anything about how they should never be allowed to be janitors ever again.
The thing that pisses me off about the general public in all of this is that people use knee-jerk reactions to jump to conclusions.
the thing that pisses me off is the anal rape ofa 10 year old20 or so significantly underage boys. but that's just me.
The thing that pisses me off about the general public in all of this is that people use knee-jerk reactions to jump to conclusions.
the thing that pisses me off is the anal rape ofa 10 year old20 or so significantly underage boys. but that's just me.
touche. but the knee-jerk reactions are pretty bad, too.
Because janitors are in a position of power, right? You are the one who isn't getting it and won't step back and look at the whole picture. You are too wrapped up in your buddy being innocent or whatever.
When a person in a position of power fails to act (and no, I don't count telling your dad/supervisor as acting) he should no longer be trusted in a position of power.
It's simple.
If you think a person with such low morals that they can't even take real action on something they witnessed should be in a position of power... then idk... you are an idiot and there is nothing more to say I guess.
"Hello 911? By and Large an employee has witnessed a youngster being raped."
Quotegetnickwright nick wright
People asking why McQueary has a job, it's almost assuredly because he was the "whistle blower" on this thing. If they fire him, he can sue.
BSAC confirm?
the POS should never coach again. This is a joke.
Not BSAC but can confirm that whistle blowers are protected, although I'm not sure that would apply here. Even if it did the cash settlement would be worth the cost of letting him go, they have to white wash that program.
Would it apply here, though? I mean, he didn't blow the whistle on something the Ath Dept or School was doing. It was an individual's actions that weren't related to the school.
Honest Q. Not a lawyer.
Because janitors are in a position of power, right? You are the one who isn't getting it and won't step back and look at the whole picture. You are too wrapped up in your buddy being innocent or whatever.
When a person in a position of power fails to act (and no, I don't count telling your dad/supervisor as acting) he should no longer be trusted in a position of power.
It's simple.
If you think a person with such low morals that they can't even take real action on something they witnessed should be in a position of power... then idk... you are an idiot and there is nothing more to say I guess.
"Hello, 911? I've witnessed a little boy being raped at the football complex"
"oh, What is your name?"
"Derp McJanitor"
"I'm sorry, you have the wrong number. Have a great day."
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"Hello 911? By and Large an employee has witnessed a youngster being raped."
"What is your name?"
"Joe Pa."
"OK, I'll send someone right over!"
:flush:
There are two JoPa scenarios here:I can get behind this
1. He knew and was complicit in covering for Sandusky.
2. He didn't know anything about it.
Both are grounds for termination. And No. 2 is really, really hard to believe. I suppose it's possible though incredibly unlikely.
The thing that pisses me off about the general public in all of this is that people use knee-jerk reactions to jump to conclusions.
the thing that pisses me off is the anal rape of a 10 year old. but that's just me.
crap, man. i was counting on okcat to make fun of dead joe paterno down the road, but he can't even tolerate people talking crap about paterno after a goddam child rape cover-up.
crap, man. i was counting on okcat to make fun of dead joe paterno down the road, but he can't even tolerate people talking crap about paterno after a goddam child rape cover-up.
oh, there will be jokes.
i just don't see what firing paterno does to this situation except please the mob mentality.
crap, man. i was counting on okcat to make fun of dead joe paterno down the road, but he can't even tolerate people talking crap about paterno after a goddam child rape cover-up.
oh, there will be jokes.
i just don't see what firing paterno does to this situation except please the mob mentality.
they should never be allowed to janitor ever again.
There are two JoPa scenarios here:I can get behind this
1. He knew and was complicit in covering for Sandusky.
2. He didn't know anything about it.
Both are grounds for termination. And No. 2 is really, really hard to believe. I suppose it's possible though incredibly unlikely.
they should never be allowed to janitor ever again.
Janitors push brooms for a living they aren't in charge of the well being of young people, certainly you know the difference.
McQueary shouldn't have his right to coach taken away, after all he wasn't dicking kids, but let's be real he should go ahead and get his insurance license. He isn't worth the hit that any team or school would take if they hired him.
Joe Posnanski is melting down and defending Paterno because he gave him access to write a book. :flush:
There are two JoPa scenarios here:I can get behind this
1. He knew and was complicit in covering for Sandusky.
2. He didn't know anything about it.
Both are grounds for termination. And No. 2 is really, really hard to believe. I suppose it's possible though incredibly unlikely.
lol, why the temper tantrum last night?
BTW those are two polar extremes and as always the truth is in the middle.
FWIW, the janitor who told the other janitors what he had seen is dead.
Yes, because the truth probably is JoePa knew enough to know he didn't want to know anything.
http://gizmodo.com/5858343/ashton-kutcher-is-a-cowardly-quitter
they should never be allowed to janitor ever again.
Janitors push brooms for a living they aren't in charge of the well being of young people, certainly you know the difference.
McQueary shouldn't have his right to coach taken away, after all he wasn't dicking kids, but let's be real he should go ahead and get his insurance license. He isn't worth the hit that any team or school would take if they hired him.
Mike isn't a bad football coach because he went to his superior instead of the police. He obviously made a mistake. We're all given the benefit of hindsight in this situation. It seems very sad to me that so many people are filled with hatred that they want someone's life to be ruined because, when put in a snap-judgement situation, he chose option B instead of option A.
None of my opinions have anything to do with knowing Mike at one time. He and my friend stopped dating 4-5 years ago.
There are two JoPa scenarios here:I can get behind this
1. He knew and was complicit in covering for Sandusky.
2. He didn't know anything about it.
Both are grounds for termination. And No. 2 is really, really hard to believe. I suppose it's possible though incredibly unlikely.
lol, why the temper tantrum last night?
BTW those are two polar extremes and as always the truth is in the middle.
Yes, because the truth probably is JoePa knew enough to know he didn't want to know anything.
they should never be allowed to janitor ever again.
Janitors push brooms for a living they aren't in charge of the well being of young people, certainly you know the difference.
McQueary shouldn't have his right to coach taken away, after all he wasn't dicking kids, but let's be real he should go ahead and get his insurance license. He isn't worth the hit that any team or school would take if they hired him.
Mike isn't a bad football coach because he went to his superior instead of the police. He obviously made a mistake.
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The problem is that McQueary was thinking "oh great my coaching career is going to go down the toilet because Jerry Sandusky is a creep." I think he got caught in the middle. He had a chance to be a hero and chose tomake a livingbe a piece of crapinstead.
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god bless doyel. truly BITB.
There was no temper tantrum last night. Calling you out for the bitch poster you are is no a random act of emotion. You're going through making crap up going to illogical extremes not based in any facts. Actually cancel that, you chose to ignore the facts on record in order to make up your own conclusions.There are two JoPa scenarios here:I can get behind this
1. He knew and was complicit in covering for Sandusky.
2. He didn't know anything about it.
Both are grounds for termination. And No. 2 is really, really hard to believe. I suppose it's possible though incredibly unlikely.
lol, why the temper tantrum last night?
BTW those are two polar extremes and as always the truth is in the middle.
Severin Laskowski, 19, who works in a restaurant in State College, worried that there could be more protests at Saturday's final home game against the University of Nebraska.
"It will probably be pretty violent. I think there will be another riot. It's the last game of the season and he's not going to be coaching. I think a lot of people feel really bad and others are pissed off," Laskowski said.
Don't know if this has been posted, don't really careyeah it was put in a bit ago. I can't believe this, just so rough ridin' shocking if true (i really can believe it though). I mean how deep is this rabbit hole. JFC. Rome is right, this takes the worst story ever and makes it 100Xs worse.
http://www.nesn.com/2011/11/jerry-sandusky-rumored-to-have-been-pimping-out-young-boys-to-rich-donors-says-mark-madden.html
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Don't know if this has been posted, don't really careyeah it was put in a bit ago. I can't believe this, just so rough ridin' shocking if true (i really can believe it though). I mean how deep is this rabbit hole. JFC. Rome is right, this takes the worst story ever and makes it 100Xs worse.
http://www.nesn.com/2011/11/jerry-sandusky-rumored-to-have-been-pimping-out-young-boys-to-rich-donors-says-mark-madden.html
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I wonder if there are any BOT in that pool of sick fucks.
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1. He knew and was complicit in covering for Sandusky.
2. He didn't know anything about it.
Both are grounds for termination. And No. 2 is really, really hard to believe. I suppose it's possible though incredibly unlikely.
lol, why the temper tantrum last night?
BTW those are two polar extremes and as always the truth is in the middle.
The fact remains that there are a lot of reports from legit places (Joe Shad) who says he appeared to have no idea wtf was going. I'm going with what has been reported. I think I'm going to agree with Penn St police when they said he did nothing illegal, so far. I will temper my statements by saying Joe dropped the ball and at a certain point, as 06 pointed out, he is the head football coach, its his house. If HIS house is not in order, it should still fall on him.
That being said, wait for the facts to come out, wait to have all the ducks in the row and proceed from there. Don't follow through with your obvious vendetta their BOTs have had since 2004. Don't even give people a chance to question your motives. Don't let people questions your follow through by having a rough ridin' messenger deliver a phone number to ax him. Go to his house, wade through the 100 kids, cops and messengers and do it face to face. Have the Penn St police send a crown vic over and escort him, his wife, his kids, his dogs over to the admin building and ax him there.
hopefully they fire mqueary w/ a text.I don't understand why there isn't more hate directed towards him. I mean how the eff do you leave a child to be raped knowing 100% for sure what is happening. I think he and his dad needs to be looking at time.
hopefully they fire mqueary w/ a text.I don't understand why there isn't more hate directed towards him. I mean how the eff do you leave a child to be raped knowing 100% for sure what is happening. I think he and his dad needs to be looking at time.
hopefully they fire mqueary w/ a text.I don't understand why there isn't more hate directed towards him.
hopefully they fire mqueary w/ a text.I don't understand why there isn't more hate directed towards him. I mean how the eff do you leave a child to be raped knowing 100% for sure what is happening. I think he and his dad needs to be looking at time.
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His dad didn't witness crap. His dad heard an allegation from his son. In no way could he confirm the validity of that allegation.
I mean yeah, it's mumped UP that McQ saw it and did nothing. It's mumped UP that he never confronted Sandusky about it. But JFC people, put the torches and pitchforls down. People are tying nooses and demonizing everyone who even thought this could be happening. That's ridiculous.
than why is the AD and the other school administrator being charged when they didn't see anything. The dad had direct knowledge that child rape was occurring. The information presented to him was graphic in detail unlike Joe Pa. He knew exactly was was occurring, when and where it was occurring and there was a reasonable possibility that it was occurring AS HE WAS TALKING TO HIS SON. If he was concerned about his son's safety and needing to get off campus he should have told his son to get home, he can hang up and call the police to intervene and stop the on going child rape, and he should have drive himself and his son the GTA, legally defined MAN to the police station to make statements.hopefully they fire mqueary w/ a text.I don't understand why there isn't more hate directed towards him. I mean how the eff do you leave a child to be raped knowing 100% for sure what is happening. I think he and his dad needs to be looking at time.
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His dad didn't witness crap. His dad heard an allegation from his son. In no way could he confirm the validity of that allegation.
I mean yeah, it's mumped UP that McQ saw it and did nothing. It's mumped UP that he never confronted Sandusky about it. But JFC people, put the torches and pitchforls down. People are tying nooses and demonizing everyone who even thought this could be happening. That's ridiculous.
than why is the AD and the other school administrator being charged when they didn't see anything.
than why is the AD and the other school administrator being charged when they didn't see anything.
23 Pa.C.S. Sec. 6311 and 6319
than why is the AD and the other school administrator being charged when they didn't see anything.
23 Pa.C.S. Sec. 6311 and 6319
(c) Staff members of institutions, etc.--Whenever a personI guess this is where Joe Pa gets and out because he told the AD his 'supervisor'
is required to report under subsection (b) in the capacity as a
member of the staff of a medical or other public or private
institution, school, facility or agency, that person shall
immediately notify the person in charge of the institution,
school, facility or agency or the designated agent of the person
in charge. Upon notification, the person in charge or the
designated agent, if any, shall assume the responsibility and
have the legal obligation to report or cause a report to be made
in accordance with section 6313. This chapter does not require
more than one report from any such institution, school, facility
or agency.
s the AD and the other school administrator being charged when they didn't see anything. The dad had direct knowledge that child rape was occurring. The information presented to him was graphic in detail unlike Joe Pa. He knew exactly was was occurring, when and where it was occurring and there was a reasonable possibility that it was occurring AS HE WAS TALKING TO HIS SON. If he was concerned about his son's safety and needing to get off campus he should have told his son to get home, he can hang up and call the police to intervene and stop the on going child rape, and he should have drive himself and his son the GTA, legally defined MAN to the police station to make statements.
hopefully they fire mqueary w/ a text.I don't understand why there isn't more hate directed towards him. I mean how the eff do you leave a child to be raped knowing 100% for sure what is happening. I think he and his dad needs to be looking at time.
It rough ridin' says right there that his father told him to get home and then they discussed what to do.
QuoteIt rough ridin' says right there that his father told him to get home and then they discussed what to do.
If you witness a rape, you don't go discuss it with someone and decide what to do. You pull the rapist off the victim if you can, call 911 and report a rape in progress if you can't. It's been stated in this forum about 100 times.
If he was concerned about his son's safety and needing to get off campus he should have told his son to get home
hopefully they fire mqueary w/ a text.I don't understand why there isn't more hate directed towards him. I mean how the eff do you leave a child to be raped knowing 100% for sure what is happening. I think he and his dad needs to be looking at time.
:flush:
His dad didn't witness crap. His dad heard an allegation from his son. In no way could he confirm the validity of that allegation.
I mean yeah, it's mumped UP that McQ saw it and did nothing. It's mumped UP that he never confronted Sandusky about it. But JFC people, put the torches and pitchforls down. People are tying nooses and demonizing everyone who even thought this could be happening. That's ridiculous.
Westboro Baptist Church to be at Penn State this weekend. Maybe emawgeddon can carpool.
:popcorn:
OT: How many days does Sandusky have before he gets killed in prison?
Westboro Baptist Church to be at Penn State this weekend. Maybe emawgeddon can carpool.
:popcorn:
If the PSU students are all :drink: and :runaway: and :chainsaw: and :curse: and they mob and kill Fred Phelps, that would create the greatest ESPN meltdown of all time.
hopefully they fire mqueary w/ a text.I don't understand why there isn't more hate directed towards him. I mean how the eff do you leave a child to be raped knowing 100% for sure what is happening. I think he and his dad needs to be looking at time.
:flush:
His dad didn't witness crap. His dad heard an allegation from his son. In no way could he confirm the validity of that allegation.
I mean yeah, it's mumped UP that McQ saw it and did nothing. It's mumped UP that he never confronted Sandusky about it. But JFC people, put the torches and pitchforls down. People are tying nooses and demonizing everyone who even thought this could be happening. That's ridiculous.
So it's just "mumped up"? I don't know if you have kids, but imagine it was your child/sister/mother/wife etc. in there being raped and some dude saw it and just turned around and walked out. Then went and told his dad and then they just decided to tell their boss rather than go to the police. Would you still be defending them? Because if there was some chickenshit out there that witnessed my son being raped (or found out about it later) and didn't do EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER to make sure the rapist was arrested, I would want their head on a rough ridin' platter.
Sometimes ALWAYS taking the opposite side of a popular opinion isn't cool and edgy. Sometimes it makes you look like a heartless coward with no moral compass. Just because everyone has a pitchfork in their hand doesn't necessarily mean their venom is misdirected. Sometimes popular opinion is right...and I realize how uncool that is to say on here.
eff you. eff OK_Cat. eff everyone that had any knowledge whatsoever that this was going on and didn't make sure Sandusky was arrested before now.
Looking forward to seeing EMAWmeister's prison tats when he's released in 12-15 years.
I agree with child rape
If he was concerned about his son's safety and needing to get off campus he should have told his son to get home, he can hang up and call the police to intervene and stop the on going child rape, and he should have drive himself and his son the GTA, legally defined MAN to the police station to make statements.
Christ Ed, you keep bitching at MIR to know the facts. Have you even read the grand jury presentment? It rough ridin' says right there that his father told him to get home and then they discussed what to do.
McQ testified he saw anal rape for the Grand Jury(per the grand jury presentment) and then met with JoPa AT HIS HOUSE(read in person). You really think he changed his story while talking to him in person that it was just some fondling in the shower?
I also think that takes away the "he's old and didn't understand" talking point. He rough ridin' told him in PERSON. JoPa just didn't want to hear it.
I agree with child rape
since we're editing posts (lying) to get our points across.If he was concerned about his son's safety and needing to get off campus he should have told his son to get home, he can hang up and call the police to intervene and stop the on going child rape, and he should have drive himself and his son the GTA, legally defined MAN to the police station to make statements.
Christ Ed, you keep bitching at MIR to know the facts. Have you even read the grand jury presentment? It rough ridin' says right there that his father told him to get home and then they discussed what to do.
McQ testified he saw anal rape for the Grand Jury(per the grand jury presentment) and then met with JoPa AT HIS HOUSE(read in person). You really think he changed his story while talking to him in person that it was just some fondling in the shower?
I also think that takes away the "he's old and didn't understand" talking point. He rough ridin' told him in PERSON. JoPa just didn't want to hear it.
or what I actually said. I can see getting him out, as long as you hang up and immediately call the police to stop the rape which is in progress, and go directly to the police to make statements. Do not pass go, do not collect 200.
I agree with child rape
since we're editing posts (lying) to get our points across.If he was concerned about his son's safety and needing to get off campus he should have told his son to get home, he can hang up and call the police to intervene and stop the on going child rape, and he should have drive himself and his son the GTA, legally defined MAN to the police station to make statements.
Christ Ed, you keep bitching at MIR to know the facts. Have you even read the grand jury presentment? It rough ridin' says right there that his father told him to get home and then they discussed what to do.
McQ testified he saw anal rape for the Grand Jury(per the grand jury presentment) and then met with JoPa AT HIS HOUSE(read in person). You really think he changed his story while talking to him in person that it was just some fondling in the shower?
I also think that takes away the "he's old and didn't understand" talking point. He rough ridin' told him in PERSON. JoPa just didn't want to hear it.
or what I actually said. I can see getting him out, as long as you hang up and immediately call the police to stop the rape which is in progress, and go directly to the police to make statements. Do not pass go, do not collect 200.
all of your work in this thread = :facepalm:
Westboro Baptist Church to be at Penn State this weekend. Maybe emawgeddon can carpool.
:popcorn:
Meatgoat pentagram :thumbsup:Looking forward to seeing EMAWmeister's prison tats when he's released in 12-15 years.
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Probably something like this after I get caught insider trading or some crap.
Westboro Baptist Church to be at Penn State this weekend. Maybe emawgeddon can carpool.
:popcorn:
So Nebraska, Penn State and WBC are all in one area this weekend......is there any chance of a meteor impact or something directly on Beaver Stadium?? :pray:
so the guy who saw violent child rape is still employed and the BOT has only requested he not appear on the sidelines.
To understand out how mumped up this is you need to read this: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7205085/growing-penn-state
McQueary grew up in College Station. The last names of some of his best friends from childhood were Paterno and Sandusky. He didn't just walk into the shower and see a co-worker or a former coach.
To understand out how mumped up this is you need to read this: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7205085/growing-penn-state
McQueary grew up in College Station. The last names of some of his best friends from childhood were Paterno and Sandusky. He didn't just walk into the shower and see a co-worker or a former coach.
Yeah, I usually give my buddies the benefit of the doubt when I walk in on them sticking their dick up a 10 year old boy's ass
To understand out how mumped up this is you need to read this: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7205085/growing-penn-state
McQueary grew up in College Station. The last names of some of his best friends from childhood were Paterno and Sandusky. He didn't just walk into the shower and see a co-worker or a former coach.
Yeah, I usually give my buddies the benefit of the doubt when I walk in on them sticking their dick up a 10 year old boy's ass
To understand out how mumped up this is you need to read this: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7205085/growing-penn-state
McQueary grew up in College Station. The last names of some of his best friends from childhood were Paterno and Sandusky. He didn't just walk into the shower and see a co-worker or a former coach.
Yeah, I usually give my buddies the benefit of the doubt when I walk in on them sticking their dick up a 10 year old boy's ass
No, he didn't give him the benefit of the doubt. He took it straight to the two people in his life that he trusted most to help him to handle it correctly: His own father and Joe Paterno. Neither of them said "you should call the police."
To understand out how mumped up this is you need to read this: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7205085/growing-penn-state
McQueary grew up in College Station. The last names of some of his best friends from childhood were Paterno and Sandusky. He didn't just walk into the shower and see a co-worker or a former coach.
Yeah, I usually give my buddies the benefit of the doubt when I walk in on them sticking their dick up a 10 year old boy's ass
To understand out how mumped up this is you need to read this: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7205085/growing-penn-state
McQueary grew up in College Station. The last names of some of his best friends from childhood were Paterno and Sandusky. He didn't just walk into the shower and see a co-worker or a former coach.
Yeah, I usually give my buddies the benefit of the doubt when I walk in on them sticking their dick up a 10 year old boy's ass
No, he didn't give him the benefit of the doubt. He took it straight to the two people in his life that he trusted most to help him to handle it correctly: His own father and Joe Paterno. Neither of them said "you should call the police."
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Any non-pussy American male knows exactly how to handle that situation if you walked in on that
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Any non-pussy American male knows exactly how to handle that situation if you walked in on that
To understand out how mumped up this is you need to read this: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7205085/growing-penn-state
McQueary grew up in College Station. The last names of some of his best friends from childhood were Paterno and Sandusky. He didn't just walk into the shower and see a co-worker or a former coach.
Yeah, I usually give my buddies the benefit of the doubt when I walk in on them sticking their dick up a 10 year old boy's ass
No, he didn't give him the benefit of the doubt. He took it straight to the two people in his life that he trusted most to help him to handle it correctly: His own father and Joe Paterno. Neither of them said "you should call the police."
To understand out how mumped up this is you need to read this: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7205085/growing-penn-state
McQueary grew up in College Station. The last names of some of his best friends from childhood were Paterno and Sandusky. He didn't just walk into the shower and see a co-worker or a former coach.
To understand out how mumped up this is you need to read this: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7205085/growing-penn-state
McQueary grew up in College Station. The last names of some of his best friends from childhood were Paterno and Sandusky. He didn't just walk into the shower and see a co-worker or a former coach.
Yeah, I usually give my buddies the benefit of the doubt when I walk in on them sticking their dick up a 10 year old boy's ass
No, he didn't give him the benefit of the doubt. He took it straight to the two people in his life that he trusted most to help him to handle it correctly: His own father and Joe Paterno. Neither of them said "you should call the police."
To understand out how mumped up this is you need to read this: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7205085/growing-penn-state
McQueary grew up in College Station. The last names of some of his best friends from childhood were Paterno and Sandusky. He didn't just walk into the shower and see a co-worker or a former coach.
Yeah, I usually give my buddies the benefit of the doubt when I walk in on them sticking their dick up a 10 year old boy's ass
No, he didn't give him the benefit of the doubt. He took it straight to the two people in his life that he trusted most to help him to handle it correctly: His own father and Joe Paterno. Neither of them said "you should call the police."
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Any non-pussy American male knows exactly how to handle that situation if you walked in on that
To understand out how mumped up this is you need to read this: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7205085/growing-penn-state
McQueary grew up in College Station. The last names of some of his best friends from childhood were Paterno and Sandusky. He didn't just walk into the shower and see a co-worker or a former coach.
Yeah, I usually give my buddies the benefit of the doubt when I walk in on them sticking their dick up a 10 year old boy's ass
No, he didn't give him the benefit of the doubt. He took it straight to the two people in his life that he trusted most to help him to handle it correctly: His own father and Joe Paterno. Neither of them said "you should call the police."
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Any non-pussy American male knows exactly how to handle that situation if you walked in on that
His father didn't tell him to call the cops. Joe Paterno didn't tell him to call the cops. These were the people that raised him. How can you assume that he would know that?
To understand out how mumped up this is you need to read this: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7205085/growing-penn-state
McQueary grew up in College Station. The last names of some of his best friends from childhood were Paterno and Sandusky. He didn't just walk into the shower and see a co-worker or a former coach.
Yeah, I usually give my buddies the benefit of the doubt when I walk in on them sticking their dick up a 10 year old boy's ass
No, he didn't give him the benefit of the doubt. He took it straight to the two people in his life that he trusted most to help him to handle it correctly: His own father and Joe Paterno. Neither of them said "you should call the police."
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Any non-pussy American male knows exactly how to handle that situation if you walked in on that
His father didn't tell him to call the cops. Joe Paterno didn't tell him to call the cops. These were the people that raised him. How can you assume that he would know that?
Joe Paterno's dad never told him to call the cops either. Let's let him off the hook. Did you need to be told to raise the toilet lid before you piss?
To understand out how mumped up this is you need to read this: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7205085/growing-penn-state
McQueary grew up in College Station. The last names of some of his best friends from childhood were Paterno and Sandusky. He didn't just walk into the shower and see a co-worker or a former coach.
Yeah, I usually give my buddies the benefit of the doubt when I walk in on them sticking their dick up a 10 year old boy's ass
No, he didn't give him the benefit of the doubt. He took it straight to the two people in his life that he trusted most to help him to handle it correctly: His own father and Joe Paterno. Neither of them said "you should call the police."
He let Sandusky finish in that kid's ass....seems like "benefit of the doubt." or is that just "man-code" or some crap? :dunno:
He's a rough ridin' monster for that reason alone. He was a 28 year old former D1 football player...he could have crushed that 60 year old man without breaking a sweat. Jesus rough ridin' christ...
McQueary may actually be one of the most admirable characters in this entire spectacle. He's the only one that's spoken up other than Victim 1. Even if it was way too late.eff you. what the eff is wrong with you people? he spoke up? rough ridin' great. he stood by while a 10 year old got ass raped, jfc
so wait it sounds like most of you (non pussy Americans) wanted McQueary to jump on in that shower and pound that old man's ass????
:gocho:
no homo
McQueary may actually be one of the most admirable characters in this entire spectacle. He's the only one that's spoken up other than Victim 1. Even if it was way too late.eff you. what the eff is wrong with you people? he spoke up? rough ridin' great. he stood by while a 10 year old got ass raped, jfc
McQueary may actually be one of the most admirable characters in this entire spectacle. He's the only one that's spoken up other than Victim 1. Even if it was way too late.eff you. what the eff is wrong with you people? he spoke up? rough ridin' great. he stood by while a 10 year old got ass raped, jfc
How many saw him ass raping 10 year olds and ignored it completely? Joe Paterno? Tom Bradley?
supastasutton23 Joe pa for ever !!!!
Quotesupastasutton23 Joe pa for ever !!!!
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Quotesupastasutton23 Joe pa for ever !!!!
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Dom might be a pred.
McQueary may actually be one of the most admirable characters in this entire spectacle. He's the only one that's spoken up other than Victim 1. Even if it was way too late.eff you. what the eff is wrong with you people? he spoke up? rough ridin' great. he stood by while a 10 year old got ass raped, jfc
How many saw him ass raping 10 year olds and ignored it completely? Joe Paterno? Tom Bradley?
I agree with Ira about so, so many of them being complete pukes.
i'm afraid that expecting mcqueary to jump up and call the police is terribly naive. it's not expected behavior at all. many, many people would freeze and wouldn't know what the eff to do, and would just want it to go away on its own. it's human nature. add that he's spent his whole life in a culture that always likes to deal with things internally and you should probably expect him not to call the police. but that doesn't mean you shouldn't crucify him all you want.
i'm afraid that expecting mcqueary to jump up and call the police is terribly naive. it's not expected behavior at all. many, many people would freeze and wouldn't know what the eff to do, and would just want it to go away on its own. it's human nature. add that he's spent his whole life in a culture that always likes to deal with things internally and you should probably expect him not to call the police. but that doesn't mean you shouldn't crucify him all you want.
i'm afraid that expecting mcqueary to jump up and call the police is terribly naive. it's not expected behavior at all. many, many people would freeze and wouldn't know what the eff to do, and would just want it to go away on its own. it's human nature. add that he's spent his whole life in a culture that always likes to deal with things internally and you should probably expect him not to call the police. but that doesn't mean you shouldn't crucify him all you want.
I get this and understand this position. However, after a day or two goes by, crap sinks in and people realize what they should have done. Guess what, would have been fine for him to call the cops two days later. Everyone would have understood the delay for this exact point.
i'm afraid that expecting mcqueary to jump up and call the police is terribly naive. it's not expected behavior at all. many, many people would freeze and wouldn't know what the eff to do, and would just want it to go away on its own. it's human nature. add that he's spent his whole life in a culture that always likes to deal with things internally and you should probably expect him not to call the police. but that doesn't mean you shouldn't crucify him all you want.
I get this and understand this position. However, after a day or two goes by, crap sinks in and people realize what they should have done. Guess what, would have been fine for him to call the cops two days later. Everyone would have understood the delay for this exact point.
i'm afraid that expecting mcqueary to jump up and call the police is terribly naive. it's not expected behavior at all. many, many people would freeze and wouldn't know what the eff to do, and would just want it to go away on its own. it's human nature. add that he's spent his whole life in a culture that always likes to deal with things internally and you should probably expect him not to call the police. but that doesn't mean you shouldn't crucify him all you want.
I don't understand this at all. I hope to God I'm never in need of help when one of these "freezers" stumbles upon my situation. I hope your kids aren't subject to these same "freezers" if they are ever in trouble.
I totally understand the "Fry McQueary!" argument.
But...
1. If McQueary doesn't talk, this case is pretty weak. It's still really just one kid's word against Sandusky's. Nobody would ever know about the 2002 shower incident unless the kid that was raped comes forward. He still hasn't
2. By talking, McQueary took down the entire administration of Penn State and probably ruined his chances of coaching college football again.
I think he was fully aware of those two things.
You can call him a coward for not doing more back in 2002 and I'll agree, but what he did in the last couple of years took great courage.
Posnanski explains himself...
http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/11/10/the-end-of-paterno/
It was disgusting and disgraceful, the method in which they fired Joe Paterno after 60 years of service, and yes, I do think Paterno was a scapegoat. Of course he was. I’ve already said that he had to be let go. But to let him dangle out there, take up all the headlines, face the bulk of the media pressure, absolutely, that’s the very definition of scapegoat. Three people were indicted and arrested. A fourth, I hear, will be indicted soon. Joe Paterno is not one of the four.
Given all of the facts, is Sandusky considered a gay? I know he had a wife and all, so I assume he's at most bi. Is there any leeway for him raping a kid? Is that less gay? More gay? I'd consider him a gay, but, ya know, he could just be bi. :confused:not funny. homosexuality has nothing to do with being a pedo.
Given all of the facts, is Sandusky considered a gay? I know he had a wife and all, so I assume he's at most bi. Is there any leeway for him raping a kid? Is that less gay? More gay? I'd consider him a gay, but, ya know, he could just be bi. :confused:not funny. homosexuality has nothing to do with being a pedo.
Situations like this are why I always keep my Judge on hand when I'm in locker rooms.
Posnanski explains himself...
http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/11/10/the-end-of-paterno/QuoteIt was disgusting and disgraceful, the method in which they fired Joe Paterno after 60 years of service, and yes, I do think Paterno was a scapegoat. Of course he was. I’ve already said that he had to be let go. But to let him dangle out there, take up all the headlines, face the bulk of the media pressure, absolutely, that’s the very definition of scapegoat. Three people were indicted and arrested. A fourth, I hear, will be indicted soon. Joe Paterno is not one of the four.
Posnanski explains himself...
http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/11/10/the-end-of-paterno/
Posnanski explains himself...
http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/11/10/the-end-of-paterno/
Agree or disagree with him, that was a fantastic read from him.
Posnanski explains himself...
http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/11/10/the-end-of-paterno/
Agree or disagree with him, that was a fantastic read from him.
no, it was his same sappy, windy bullshit he's always written. He's a terrible writer, I have no idea why people like him.
dot dot dot
Seriously.
Joe is firing up the defense team.
http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/10/8742718-paterno-hires-criminal-defense-lawyer-source-tells-nbc-news
How many college football coaches would turn down 3 head coaching opportunities at big-time schools to stay in "Happy Valley". A couple who could not have their own children. Then adopted 6. Not all in infancy. A man who took in foster children and at the same time ran the defense for one of college football's elite teams for 23 years. A kid who never grew up. Yet a person who is so selfless it defies human ego. Everyone reading this should do themselves a moral favor and contribute money to the Second Mile. (...).
Joe is firing up the defense team.
http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/10/8742718-paterno-hires-criminal-defense-lawyer-source-tells-nbc-news
Why? Is he being charged? :lol:
Yep, wife still bitches about it. ;) :fatty:To understand out how mumped up this is you need to read this: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7205085/growing-penn-state
McQueary grew up in College Station. The last names of some of his best friends from childhood were Paterno and Sandusky. He didn't just walk into the shower and see a co-worker or a former coach.
Yeah, I usually give my buddies the benefit of the doubt when I walk in on them sticking their dick up a 10 year old boy's ass
No, he didn't give him the benefit of the doubt. He took it straight to the two people in his life that he trusted most to help him to handle it correctly: His own father and Joe Paterno. Neither of them said "you should call the police."
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Any non-pussy American male knows exactly how to handle that situation if you walked in on that
His father didn't tell him to call the cops. Joe Paterno didn't tell him to call the cops. These were the people that raised him. How can you assume that he would know that?
Joe Paterno's dad never told him to call the cops either. Let's let him off the hook. Did you need to be told to raise the toilet lid before you piss?
Posnanski explains himself...
http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/11/10/the-end-of-paterno/
Agree or disagree with him, that was a fantastic read from him.
no, it was his same sappy, windy bullshit he's always written. He's a terrible writer, I have no idea why people like him.
dot dot dot
Seriously.
i'm afraid that expecting mcqueary to jump up and call the police is terribly naive. it's not expected behavior at all. many, many people would freeze and wouldn't know what the eff to do, and would just want it to go away on its own. it's human nature. add that he's spent his whole life in a culture that always likes to deal with things internally and you should probably expect him not to call the police. but that doesn't mean you shouldn't crucify him all you want.
I get this and understand this position. However, after a day or two goes by, crap sinks in and people realize what they should have done. Guess what, would have been fine for him to call the cops two days later. Everyone would have understood the delay for this exact point.
no, the point is that he doesn't want that burden. once he tells paterno, he washes his hands of it and never wants to go back.
Posnanski explains himself...
http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/11/10/the-end-of-paterno/
Agree or disagree with him, that was a fantastic read from him.
no, it was his same sappy, windy bullshit he's always written. He's a terrible writer, I have no idea why people like him.
dot dot dot
Seriously.
I have an idea as to why people like him. I think it has something to do with most people being total retards.
Don't know if this has been posted, don't really care
http://www.nesn.com/2011/11/jerry-sandusky-rumored-to-have-been-pimping-out-young-boys-to-rich-donors-says-mark-madden.html
:sdeek:
Posnanski explains himself...
http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/11/10/the-end-of-paterno/
and our Chinese overlords have summed this up nicely, make sure you don't miss the fantastic finish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cewjLdYRTrE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cewjLdYRTrE)
The most disgusting part of this isn't that Joe Pa continued to let that guy cruise around his football program after he knew that he mumped kids, but that they could have literally prevented the rape of additional kids between 2002 and today. The last documented incident with a different kid was in 2009.
Joe Pa, in his statements, admitted that the GA who witnessed the event was shaken up pretty bad...and Joe Pa has the gall to say that he didn't know the exact nature of the allegation? What, like if the dude had been playing a game of "just the tip" or some crap, it would have been permissible to let the pervert use your football program to entertain children? GMAFB.
Interesting
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/penn_state_board_of_trustees_g.html
for everyone' sake I think if you are going to actually take the step to fire him do it after this week.Interesting
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/penn_state_board_of_trustees_g.html
Didn't even consider that angle, but it's definitely an interesting take. Seems like it would be a little weird though.
In that scenario the trustees could either let him coach and pretend it's their own decision creating all sorts of trouble especially traveling to other venues, or let him coach saying it was the decision of the victims, some of which were only victims because he didn't speak up. In my opinion they should of asked and then said at the press conference that even though the victims wanted Joe to finish the season for the PSU fans, for safety (legal?) reasons it has to be done now.
I'm sure after seeing that violence last night, there are plenty of victims that are even less likely to speak up now.
for everyone' sake I think if you are going to actually take the step to fire him do it after this week.Interesting
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/penn_state_board_of_trustees_g.html
Didn't even consider that angle, but it's definitely an interesting take. Seems like it would be a little weird though.
In that scenario the trustees could either let him coach and pretend it's their own decision creating all sorts of trouble especially traveling to other venues, or let him coach saying it was the decision of the victims, some of which were only victims because he didn't speak up. In my opinion they should of asked and then said at the press conference that even though the victims wanted Joe to finish the season for the PSU fans, for safety (legal?) reasons it has to be done now.
I'm sure after seeing that violence last night, there are plenty of victims that are even less likely to speak up now.
Number one, it doesn't skew the story line to how he was fired and the timing. It allows 'all the facts to come out' so no one can second guess the action as being too quick or a continuation of a vendetta.
It allows the story to shift back to getting the victims help, which it is just only now maybe, possibly doing.
It shifts the story to Sandusky instead of anyone else right or wrong.
The BOT can say the moved swiftly because they acted before the end of the season, while looking reserved because they didn't have a knee jerk reaction.
Look at the reaction from the students. their number one and two targets were the media seemingly blaming everything on Joe Pa and the admin for their knee jerk reaction. You completely hedge against the violent reaction. The BOT should have fired everyone who has charges against them, like they did yesterday.
Finally Joe Pa can be removed and not 'retired' to save face for the university but you also hedge the reaction to the reaction. He can go off with a final memory being a game rather than his failings as a person, at that point the BOT is now insulated against any kick back. They can say they let the system work, and didn't shift the attention back to themselves being hasty. The BOT can control the narrative rather than the angry fans.
JFC people this is a civil attorney representing the victims. He's going to say whatever he can to help make the university look bad.
JFC people this is a civil attorney representing the victims. He's going to say whatever he can to help make the university look bad.
While that's true, most people don't think about the guilt the victims feel. Most of them think it's their fault somehow. So he's right that adding a riot to their list of things to feel guilty about is something to consider.
JFC people this is a civil attorney representing the victims. He's going to say whatever he can to help make the university look bad.
While that's true, most people don't think about the guilt the victims feel. Most of them think it's their fault somehow. So he's right that adding a riot to their list of things to feel guilty about is something to consider.
JFC people this is a civil attorney representing the victims. He's going to say whatever he can to help make the university look bad.
While that's true, most people don't think about the guilt the victims feel. Most of them think it's their fault somehow. So he's right that adding a riot to their list of things to feel guilty about is something to consider.
Extend this guy's argument to its logical conclusion and no one ever gets arrested in the whole thing. It's nothing more than pandering. This guy doesn't give a crap about the victims, only that they're going to make him insanely rich.
If you know anything about attorneys, you would understand that had PSU let Paterno coach the remaining games, they would have issued a statement about how "insensitive" PSU was to the victims of the case and how "deplorable" it is that they allowed him to remain employed and on the sidelines. He's a rough ridin' attorney, a half a step above Sandusky.
JFC people this is a civil attorney representing the victims. He's going to say whatever he can to help make the university look bad.
"Andreozzi is working with Let Go Let Peace Come In, an organization providing services to child sex abuse victims, which is offering free counseling to the alleged victims."
:confused:
JFC people this is a civil attorney representing the victims. He's going to say whatever he can to help make the university look bad.
Who is the civil atty? I hope he has a big truck to haul all his money.
"Andreozzi is working with Let Go Let Peace Come In, an organization providing services to child sex abuse victims, which is offering free counseling to the alleged victims."
:confused:
what don't you understand?
This charity really needs to stop talking about touching kids. That's where this problem started.
This charity really needs to stop talking about touching kids. That's where this problem started.
No. prob was that it was created to provide access.
Would be like one of the Biggest Losers opening a buffet.
And the wrestling coach, Joe Miller, said he walked in on Sandusky lying face to face in physical contact with a boy on a wrestling mat one night in 2007 or 2008. Miller also testified that Sandusky jumped up and said, “Hey, Coach, we’re just working on wrestling moves."
I cannot get over the number of times this guy was caught or had a close call and no one stepped up and removed the child and/or ended this eff.
I cannot get over the number of times this guy was caught or had a close call and no one stepped up and removed the child and/or ended this eff.
Posted this earlier:
http://www.menshealth.com/health/why-joe-paterno-didnt-call-police
It's really easy to say you would go murder Sandusky or something, but there's a good chance that you wouldn't given the circumstances. *note* this does not mean anyone deserves a free pass.
looks like a good piece from the first page. I'll finish later.I cannot get over the number of times this guy was caught or had a close call and no one stepped up and removed the child and/or ended this eff.
Posted this earlier:
http://www.menshealth.com/health/why-joe-paterno-didnt-call-police
It's really easy to say you would go murder Sandusky or something, but there's a good chance that you wouldn't given the circumstances. *note* this does not mean anyone deserves a free pass.
I cannot get over the number of times this guy was caught or had a close call and no one stepped up and removed the child and/or ended this eff.
Posted this earlier:
http://www.menshealth.com/health/why-joe-paterno-didnt-call-police
It's really easy to say you would go murder Sandusky or something, but there's a good chance that you wouldn't given the circumstances. *note* this does not mean anyone deserves a free pass.
haven't any of you dudes seen that show on ABC "20/20: What would you do??" or some crap? No? me neither... but i was told the majority of people don't do crap when they see something wrong.
I cannot get over the number of times this guy was caught or had a close call and no one stepped up and removed the child and/or ended this eff.
Posted this earlier:
http://www.menshealth.com/health/why-joe-paterno-didnt-call-police
It's really easy to say you would go murder Sandusky or something, but there's a good chance that you wouldn't given the circumstances. *note* this does not mean anyone deserves a free pass.
Even if they didn't report him because of the Men's Health theory, they should've at least been giant assholes to him and made it incredibly uncomfortable for him to be anywhere near the university, let alone bringing the boys. PI him out of boy-rape on campus, if you will. Seems like they were all "that's just Jerry being Jerry."
I cannot get over the number of times this guy was caught or had a close call and no one stepped up and removed the child and/or ended this eff.
Posted this earlier:
http://www.menshealth.com/health/why-joe-paterno-didnt-call-police
It's really easy to say you would go murder Sandusky or something, but there's a good chance that you wouldn't given the circumstances. *note* this does not mean anyone deserves a free pass.
Even if they didn't report him because of the Men's Health theory, they should've at least been giant assholes to him and made it incredibly uncomfortable for him to be anywhere near the university, let alone bringing the boys. PI him out of boy-rape on campus, if you will. Seems like they were all "that's just Jerry being Jerry."
but another former Nittany Lion said he hasn't forgotten Sandusky, even as the former assistant coach stands accused of having sex with young boys.
Sam Stellatella, a three-position player in the 1950s, has donated money to Sandusky's defense and urged other former players to do the same.
"I told him he's going to need a million dollars to defend himself," the 73-year-old Stellatella said. "He called me back and said, 'What am I going to do with this money?' I said, 'Use it for your lawyer because you're going to need it.' "
Stellatella sent Sandusky $100. He wrote personal letters to other members of the 1959 Liberty Bowl team that defeated a Bear Bryant-coached Alabama team and asked they also donate. He does not know how much money was raised.
"I know some of the guys sent money," Stellatella told The Associated Press. "Here's the thing, these are horrendous charges against him. But he's still entitled to his day in court. Everybody's prejudged him. He's done horrendous damage to Paterno and (athletic director Tim) Curley and the football program. I don't listen to the news and I don't read the reports of what he did because I would get too upset.
Do they just have some naked little kid in the corner getting brutalized by some old man and have some hidden camera record what passers by do or what?
haven't any of you dudes seen that show on ABC "20/20: What would you do??" or some crap? No? me neither... but i was told the majority of people don't do crap when they see something wrong.
Do they just have some naked little kid in the corner getting brutalized by some old man and have some hidden camera record what passers by do or what?
gregg doyel pissing anyone else off besides me?
I cannot get over the number of times this guy was caught or had a close call and no one stepped up and removed the child and/or ended this eff.
Posted this earlier:
http://www.menshealth.com/health/why-joe-paterno-didnt-call-police
It's really easy to say you would go murder Sandusky or something, but there's a good chance that you wouldn't given the circumstances. *note* this does not mean anyone deserves a free pass.
gregg doyel pissing anyone else off besides me?
What's he doing/saying? Also, I'm sure he's pissing off lots of people.
I cannot get over the number of times this guy was caught or had a close call and no one stepped up and removed the child and/or ended this eff.
Posted this earlier:
http://www.menshealth.com/health/why-joe-paterno-didnt-call-police
It's really easy to say you would go murder Sandusky or something, but there's a good chance that you wouldn't given the circumstances. *note* this does not mean anyone deserves a free pass.
I read this article and I have to tell you I still don't get it, but i know it happens. Apparently LOTS of slanty eyes walked past an infant that wandered into the street and got hit by a car or something, finally someone else drove over it and put it out of it's misery before some grandma came over and picked it up off the street. I hear those things. I hear some guy walks in on a 10 year old being anally raped by a 60 year old man and turns around and walks the other direction. I hear it. I just don't rough ridin' get it.
gregg doyel pissing anyone else off besides me?
What's he doing/saying? Also, I'm sure he's pissing off lots of people.
i usually like him, but his mightier than thou attitude gets old. look at his twitter TL.
I cannot get over the number of times this guy was caught or had a close call and no one stepped up and removed the child and/or ended this eff.
Posted this earlier:
http://www.menshealth.com/health/why-joe-paterno-didnt-call-police
It's really easy to say you would go murder Sandusky or something, but there's a good chance that you wouldn't given the circumstances. *note* this does not mean anyone deserves a free pass.
Even if they didn't report him because of the Men's Health theory, they should've at least been giant assholes to him and made it incredibly uncomfortable for him to be anywhere near the university, let alone bringing the boys. PI him out of boy-rape on campus, if you will. Seems like they were all "that's just Jerry being Jerry."
i think they were more like, "GET THIS crap OUT OF MY HEAD. I CAN'T rough ridin' DEAL WITH IT. DO NOT THINK ABOUT THIS EVER AGAIN."
I cannot get over the number of times this guy was caught or had a close call and no one stepped up and removed the child and/or ended this eff.
Posted this earlier:
http://www.menshealth.com/health/why-joe-paterno-didnt-call-police
It's really easy to say you would go murder Sandusky or something, but there's a good chance that you wouldn't given the circumstances. *note* this does not mean anyone deserves a free pass.
Even if they didn't report him because of the Men's Health theory, they should've at least been giant assholes to him and made it incredibly uncomfortable for him to be anywhere near the university, let alone bringing the boys. PI him out of boy-rape on campus, if you will. Seems like they were all "that's just Jerry being Jerry."
i think they were more like, "GET THIS crap OUT OF MY HEAD. I CAN'T rough ridin' DEAL WITH IT. DO NOT THINK ABOUT THIS EVER AGAIN."
Tough to do if he's hanging out for another 8 years.
If I didn't report but found myself in the same room as him, I'd do an exaggerated scan around the room looking for boys and other bad person-ish stuff like that. Maybe bring an adult porn magazine to the office and offer it to all the other coaches to see except him. :dunno:
I cannot get over the number of times this guy was caught or had a close call and no one stepped up and removed the child and/or ended this eff.
Posted this earlier:
http://www.menshealth.com/health/why-joe-paterno-didnt-call-police
It's really easy to say you would go murder Sandusky or something, but there's a good chance that you wouldn't given the circumstances. *note* this does not mean anyone deserves a free pass.
I read this article and I have to tell you I still don't get it, but i know it happens. Apparently LOTS of slanty eyes walked past an infant that wandered into the street and got hit by a car or something, finally someone else drove over it and put it out of it's misery before some grandma came over and picked it up off the street. I hear those things. I hear some guy walks in on a 10 year old being anally raped by a 60 year old man and turns around and walks the other direction. I hear it. I just don't rough ridin' get it.
the eff is all this?
Round-eyes not any better. :opcat:I cannot get over the number of times this guy was caught or had a close call and no one stepped up and removed the child and/or ended this eff.
Posted this earlier:
http://www.menshealth.com/health/why-joe-paterno-didnt-call-police
It's really easy to say you would go murder Sandusky or something, but there's a good chance that you wouldn't given the circumstances. *note* this does not mean anyone deserves a free pass.
I read this article and I have to tell you I still don't get it, but i know it happens. Apparently LOTS of slanty eyes walked past an infant that wandered into the street and got hit by a car or something, finally someone else drove over it and put it out of it's misery before some grandma came over and picked it up off the street. I hear those things. I hear some guy walks in on a 10 year old being anally raped by a 60 year old man and turns around and walks the other direction. I hear it. I just don't rough ridin' get it.
the eff is all this?
china
:horrorsurprise: even after being rumored to be a pederast for years they write this fluff piece
http://www.altoonamirror.com/page/content.detail/id/542384/Second-Mile-founder-retires.html?nav=742
also Jerry was well compensated for his kiddie rapin...
http://deadspin.com/5858533/sandusky-made-half-a-million-dollars-at-the-second-mile-after-admitting-he-showered-with-a-boy-according-to-tax-records
or, the kid just made it up.
http://twitter.com/#!/Ben_Jones88
Huge vigil for the victims tonight on the PSU campus. More people showed up to it than the riots. So I guess the whole town isn't batshit :thumbs:
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Vigils are almost as big a waste of time as riots.
Vigils are almost as big a waste of time as riots.
Vigils are almost as big a waste of time as riots.
In 99.9% of cases, absolutely. But this one was vastly necessary to start the healing process for that community.
glad to hear mcqueary needs to be in protective custody. makes me want to throw up everytime i see his picture. ball-less coward.
Are knife fights worse than child rape?
glad to hear mcqueary needs to be in protective custody. makes me want to throw up everytime i see his picture. ball-less coward.
nope, not a coward. saw something on twitter about how he once broke up a knife fight btwn fball players. when something seems wrong to him, he'll happily risk bodily injury to stop it.
@PatriotNews: Jerry Sandusky's book, "Touched," was still being sold yesterday at the #PennState bookstore
Vigils are almost as big a waste of time as riots.
Quote@PatriotNews: Jerry Sandusky's book, "Touched," was still being sold yesterday at the #PennState bookstore
:sdeek:
the guy is going to make a killing on book sales out of this deal
Love the moment of silence to honor the victims whilst ignoring the fact that the university has known about the victims for 15 years.
I saw the moment of silence as a reenactment of the past dozen or so years.
I saw the moment of silence as a reenactment of the past dozen or so years.
:lol:
Had to catch up on 15 pages of this thread to see if this had been posted, but... Does anyone else think it semi likely that it comes out that McQueery was abused by Sandusky? He was around the creep when he was a kid. That alone could complicate his reaction to what he witnessed. It also occurred to me that if there was an incident between the two, maybe there was some kind of legal settlement with Sandusky in exchange for silence, which would further complicate his reaction.
Love the moment of silence to honor the victims whilst ignoring the fact that the university has known about the victims for 15 years.
Yep. I'll always hate the crap out of Penn State, now. Always.
Sports Illustrated’s Joe Posnanski, my former colleague at the Kansas City Star, has thrown a weeklong blog tantrum because his plan to write the next “Tuesdays with Morrie,” starring JoePa, has been blown up by the Sandusky controversy. Let me be fair. Posnanski claims he’s upset because the media have been irresponsibly unfair to JoePa and not enough of JoePa’s friends have been courageous enough to publicly defend the legendary coach. (Maybe they’ve privately expressed their support to their immediate supervisor?)
Whitlock giving it to JoePo with both barrelsQuoteMaybe they’ve privately expressed their support to their immediate supervisor?
Whitlock giving it to JoePo with both barrels
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Barack-Obama-needs-to-launch-federal-investigation-of-Penn-State-scandal-111111 (http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Barack-Obama-needs-to-launch-federal-investigation-of-Penn-State-scandal-111111)QuoteSports Illustrated’s Joe Posnanski, my former colleague at the Kansas City Star, has thrown a weeklong blog tantrum because his plan to write the next “Tuesdays with Morrie,” starring JoePa, has been blown up by the Sandusky controversy. Let me be fair. Posnanski claims he’s upset because the media have been irresponsibly unfair to JoePa and not enough of JoePa’s friends have been courageous enough to publicly defend the legendary coach. (Maybe they’ve privately expressed their support to their immediate supervisor?)
I saw the moment of silence as a reenactment of the past dozen or so years.
eff Penn State.
State College is the worst place on earth. I hope they burn it to the ground.
Blog post describing my weekend at the Nebraska game coming soon.
Whitlock giving it to JoePo with both barrelsQuoteMaybe they’ve privately expressed their support to their immediate supervisor?
my goodness, but that's good.
eff Penn State.:ksufanstoetappingguy:
State College is the worst place on earth. I hope they burn it to the ground.
Blog post describing my weekend at the Nebraska game coming soon.
Do you think it's the fact that he's catholic that is keeping him from killing himself?
It was a common tradition among the football team’s faithful, followed, on Sunday, by yet another one. During a lively sermon at St. Paul’s United Methodist Church, a pastor compared the practice to St. John the Divine’s arrival in heaven.
“Just last week,” the Rev. Eric Shafer said, “my son Kyle and I were there for that thrilling win against Illinois. As Kyle and I were walking out of the stadium, I said, ‘That was just a football game, with 70,000 people. Can you imagine what heaven’s going to be like?’”
Over the top? Yes. Particularly since Sandusky, a former assistant coach at Penn State, and a member of that church, had already been arrested. But this is Penn State—a place where football is religion and religion is football.
Paterno's name taken off B16 Championship Trophy::horrorsurprise: (ftp://:horrorsurprise:)
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7233492/big-ten-removes-joe-paterno-name-championship-trophy
Do you think it's the fact that he's catholic that is keeping him from killing himself?
Do you think it's the fact that he's catholic that is keeping him from killing himself?
It's just a matter of time before he realizes what the rest of his life is going to be like and death is going to REALLY start looking attractive. Be patient.
It was midway through the pregame prayer session that the gorge hit high tide. There is always something a little nauseating in large spectacles of conspicuous public piety, but watching everyone on the field take a knee before the Penn State-Nebraska game, and listening to the commentary about how devoutly everybody was praying for the victims at Penn State, was enough to get me reaching for a bucket and a Bible all at once. It was as though the players and coaches had devised some sort of new training regimen to get past the awful reality of what had happened. Prayer as a new form of two-a-days. Jesus is my strength coach. Contrition in the context of a football game seemed almost obscene in its obvious vanity.
In addition to power and control dynamics among the staff and Paterno’s powerful presence in the community, a crazy tradition at Penn State was the coaches showered together after each practice and game. We never did this at Brown or at the University of Rhode Island, and my coaching friends never experienced this on their staffs.
Do you think it's the fact that he's catholic that is keeping him from killing himself?
It's just a matter of time before he realizes what the rest of his life is going to be like and death is going to REALLY start looking attractive. Be patient.
When the victim silence dam breaks and more deets start coming out...
Penn State update coming tonight, I swear. Catching up on work.:excited:
So he's just walking free right now raping as many kids as he can before he goes to jail for good?
So he's just walking free right now raping as many kids as he can before he goes to jail for good?
He was photographed by TMZ (strange), at LaGuardia airport this morning.
He could be at Roman Polanski's house right now for all we know.
So he's just walking free right now raping as many kids as he can before he goes to jail for good?
He was photographed by TMZ (strange), at LaGuardia airport this morning.
He could be at Roman Polanski's house right now for all we know.
Wow :surprised:
Holy eff.
$100k is cheap get outa jail price for a guy who can afford to live abroad the rest of his days.
Turns out the Judge who decided bail conditions was on the board of The Second Mile. The DA asked for $500K bail and a leg monitor, the Judge gave $100K unrestricted bail.
Seriously Pennsylvania.....
So is everyone in Penn a child molester? Honest Q.
What is really disturbing to me is the whole booster thing. I could easily believe that every school could have maybe one pedo as a big booster that could afford to pay large sums to the school AD in exchange for kids, but to have enough high-dollar boosters into this that it made sense for someone to start up a pedo pedaling service is crazy to me. I mean, if it happened more than once to more than one booster, PSU has to have something wrong with their community, right. Something that breeds an abnormal amt of pedos?
What is really disturbing to me is the whole booster thing. I could easily believe that every school could have maybe one pedo as a big booster that could afford to pay large sums to the school AD in exchange for kids, but to have enough high-dollar boosters into this that it made sense for someone to start up a pedo pedaling service is crazy to me. I mean, if it happened more than once to more than one booster, PSU has to have something wrong with their community, right. Something that breeds an abnormal amt of pedos?
I thought that rumor was the the kids were being pimped to Second Mile boosters. :horrorsurprise: if kids were being pimped to PSU boosters.
So he's just walking free right now raping as many kids as he can before he goes to jail for good?
What is really disturbing to me is the whole booster thing. I could easily believe that every school could have maybe one pedo as a big booster that could afford to pay large sums to the school AD in exchange for kids, but to have enough high-dollar boosters into this that it made sense for someone to start up a pedo pedaling service is crazy to me. I mean, if it happened more than once to more than one booster, PSU has to have something wrong with their community, right. Something that breeds an abnormal amt of pedos?
I thought that rumor was the the kids were being pimped to Second Mile boosters. :horrorsurprise: if kids were being pimped to PSU boosters.
I'm pretty sure you could venn diagram SMBs and PSUBs with just one circle.
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Just imagine the national backlash if this guy gets found not guilty. It would be Casey Anthony x 1000000000000000000000000000Rule 34: Jerry Sandusky and Casey Anthony co-star in "Honey, I Spunked the Kids."
you mean, like, in that movie with kevin bacon where he is a guard at the juvy hall place?
Damn, this is interesting. Sandusky's attorney must be terrible...or else he just wanted Sandusky to implicate himself publicly so he didn't have to work hard defending this shithead.
Bob Costas reflects on his interview with Jerry Sandusky this morning (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/ns/msnbc_tv-morning_joe/#45302975)
you mean, like, in that movie with kevin bacon where he is a guard at the juvy hall place?
you mean, like, in that movie with kevin bacon where he is a guard at the juvy hall place?
Yeah, only instead of everyone learning that dance isn't for the devil, Sandusky would get killed.
Damn, this is interesting. Sandusky's attorney must be terrible...or else he just wanted Sandusky to implicate himself publicly so he didn't have to work hard defending this shithead.
Bob Costas reflects on his interview with Jerry Sandusky this morning (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/ns/msnbc_tv-morning_joe/#45302975)
his response to "Are you sexually attracted to underage boys?" is pretty all-telling. Thanks for that long drawn out response Jerry. A simple, "No" would of been pretty appropriate. No one asked if you enjoy being around young boys.
Is there a more legit source for this news I heard in between game naps last night that Sandusky's attorney is kind of a pedo himself, albeit hetero and post-pubescent?
His attorney, Joe Amendola, would later suggest some of the other victims in the grand jury’s “finding of fact” would recant their claims. Who is Joe Amendola? According to Pennsylvania court documents obtained by The Daily, in 1996, at the age of 49, he impregnated a 17-year-old girl. The two later married and divorced.
Bob did a shitty job imo. When Sandusky said "i touched their legs in a non sexual manner" wouldn't a nice follow up have been "you touched their legs? why would you touch their legs jerry?" and "why would a 60 year old man be showering with kids jerry?" and "why do you feel bad about what's happened at Penn State if you are completely innocent? shouldn't you be mad?" and after that ridiculous answer to "are you sexually attracted to young boys" Bob should have followed with "why the hesitation Jerry? That seems like a very simple question...most people would immediately respond "NO!"...why the hesitation?"
Bob did a piss poor job with the interview...he could have skewered that prick.
Is there a more legit source for this news I heard in between game naps last night that Sandusky's attorney is kind of a pedo himself, albeit hetero and post-pubescent?
Not nearly as bad as Sandusky, as it was consensual, but still pretty mumped.QuoteHis attorney, Joe Amendola, would later suggest some of the other victims in the grand jury’s “finding of fact” would recant their claims. Who is Joe Amendola? According to Pennsylvania court documents obtained by The Daily, in 1996, at the age of 49, he impregnated a 17-year-old girl. The two later married and divorced.
Bob did a shitty job imo. When Sandusky said "i touched their legs in a non sexual manner" wouldn't a nice follow up have been "you touched their legs? why would you touch their legs jerry?" and "why would a 60 year old man be showering with kids jerry?" and "why do you feel bad about what's happened at Penn State if you are completely innocent? shouldn't you be mad?" and after that ridiculous answer to "are you sexually attracted to young boys" Bob should have followed with "why the hesitation Jerry? That seems like a very simple question...most people would immediately respond "NO!"...why the hesitation?"
Bob did a piss poor job with the interview...he could have skewered that prick.
Sandusky could have and probably would have just walked away from the interview if Bob started asking tough questions like that. This isn't "To Catch a Predator". There weren't cops waiting outside to make an arrest as soon as the interview was over.
Is there a more legit source for this news I heard in between game naps last night that Sandusky's attorney is kind of a pedo himself, albeit hetero and post-pubescent?
Not nearly as bad as Sandusky, as it was consensual, but still pretty mumped.QuoteHis attorney, Joe Amendola, would later suggest some of the other victims in the grand jury’s “finding of fact” would recant their claims. Who is Joe Amendola? According to Pennsylvania court documents obtained by The Daily, in 1996, at the age of 49, he impregnated a 17-year-old girl. The two later married and divorced.
Man, The Second Mile must have a really strong networking component to it.
Is there a more legit source for this news I heard in between game naps last night that Sandusky's attorney is kind of a pedo himself, albeit hetero and post-pubescent?
Not nearly as bad as Sandusky, as it was consensual, but still pretty mumped.QuoteHis attorney, Joe Amendola, would later suggest some of the other victims in the grand jury’s “finding of fact” would recant their claims. Who is Joe Amendola? According to Pennsylvania court documents obtained by The Daily, in 1996, at the age of 49, he impregnated a 17-year-old girl. The two later married and divorced.
Man, The Second Mile must have a really strong networking component to it.
Depending on what state it was in, Amendola might not have even broken the law when he impregnated that 17-year-old.
Is there a more legit source for this news I heard in between game naps last night that Sandusky's attorney is kind of a pedo himself, albeit hetero and post-pubescent?
Not nearly as bad as Sandusky, as it was consensual, but still pretty mumped.QuoteHis attorney, Joe Amendola, would later suggest some of the other victims in the grand jury’s “finding of fact” would recant their claims. Who is Joe Amendola? According to Pennsylvania court documents obtained by The Daily, in 1996, at the age of 49, he impregnated a 17-year-old girl. The two later married and divorced.
Man, The Second Mile must have a really strong networking component to it.
Depending on what state it was in, Amendola might not have even broken the law when he impregnated that 17-year-old.
you mean, like, in that movie with kevin bacon where he is a guard at the juvy hall place?
@SPORTSbyBROOKS: Source...Penn St Trustee told me school may have no choice 2 keep Bradley b/c he knows where bodies are
Quote@SPORTSbyBROOKS: Source...Penn St Trustee told me school may have no choice 2 keep Bradley b/c he knows where bodies are
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Is there a more legit source for this news I heard in between game naps last night that Sandusky's attorney is kind of a pedo himself, albeit hetero and post-pubescent?
Not nearly as bad as Sandusky, as it was consensual, but still pretty mumped.QuoteHis attorney, Joe Amendola, would later suggest some of the other victims in the grand jury’s “finding of fact” would recant their claims. Who is Joe Amendola? According to Pennsylvania court documents obtained by The Daily, in 1996, at the age of 49, he impregnated a 17-year-old girl. The two later married and divorced.
Man, The Second Mile must have a really strong networking component to it.
Depending on what state it was in, Amendola might not have even broken the law when he impregnated that 17-year-old.
Illegal or not, still pretty gross for a 46 year old and 17 year old to be getting it on. It shows what kind of culture these people live in. If banging a girl 29 years younger consensually is widely accepted, covering up the rape of little boys is only kinda wrong..
you mean, like, in that movie with kevin bacon where he is a guard at the juvy hall place?
I saw that movie and thought it was pretty ok.
Pennsylvania rough ridin' sucks.
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you mean, like, in that movie with kevin bacon where he is a guard at the juvy hall place?
McQuerey to speak :ohno:
What kind of inept judge doesn't put a gag order on everyone involved? Seriously...
McQuerey to speak :ohno:
What kind of inept judge doesn't put a gag order on everyone involved? Seriously...
Pretty sure we already discussed how dumb the judge is in all of this.
McQuerey to speak :ohno:
What kind of inept judge doesn't put a gag order on everyone involved? Seriously...
Pretty sure we already discussed how dumb the judge is in all of this.
43 pages.
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McQuerey to speak :ohno:
What kind of inept judge doesn't put a gag order on everyone involved? Seriously...
Great interview by John King on CNN of Matt Pankins, a former PSU assistant. "Had I walked in on Jerry and a boy, I would have incapacitated Jerry" Great quote, genuine guy. Abused as a child. Really shed a lot of light on PSU, Jerry and JoePa.
Great interview by John King on CNN of Matt Pankins, a former PSU assistant. "Had I walked in on Jerry and a boy, I would have incapacitated Jerry" Great quote, genuine guy. Abused as a child. Really shed a lot of light on PSU, Jerry and JoePa.
Great interview by John King on CNN of Matt Pankins, a former PSU assistant. "Had I walked in on Jerry and a boy, I would have incapacitated Jerry" Great quote, genuine guy. Abused as a child. Really shed a lot of light on PSU, Jerry and JoePa.
that guy seems like a media whore trying to sell his corporate coaching or whatever.
Great interview by John King on CNN of Matt Pankins, a former PSU assistant. "Had I walked in on Jerry and a boy, I would have incapacitated Jerry" Great quote, genuine guy. Abused as a child. Really shed a lot of light on PSU, Jerry and JoePa.
link or gtfo
Great interview by John King on CNN of Matt Pankins, a former PSU assistant. "Had I walked in on Jerry and a boy, I would have incapacitated Jerry" Great quote, genuine guy. Abused as a child. Really shed a lot of light on PSU, Jerry and JoePa.
that guy seems like a media whore trying to sell his corporate coaching or whatever.
he didn't mention a book or website. i think he may have just been wanting to help the abused kids. maybe not. :ck:
you know who calls darren rovell and mentions their businesses? fast food companies.
you know who calls darren rovell and mentions their businesses? fast food companies.
hmmmm, well I sure do like fast food. Maybe there is space in my heart for this fellow too?
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/7248184/syracuse-police-investigating-bernie-fine-molesting-boy-1980s
:sdeek:
Davis said he was molested by Fine until he was around 27 years old.
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My mother's college roommate at Syracuse dated Bernie Fine,they have remained friends-my father has called Bernie a friend for 30 years
this thread may rival the Cigars thread at the rate these sickos are going. :frown:
this thread may rival the Cigars thread at the rate these sickos are going. :frown:
i'm having trouble with getting into the cuse pedo story. how can anyone ever top paterno getting fired?
i'm having trouble with getting into the cuse pedo story. how can anyone ever top paterno getting fired?
These stories have taught me the difference between pedophiles and pederasts. For anyone keeping score Sandusky and Fine are accused pederasts, they are attracted to boys only. Pedophiles can be attracted to boys and girls.
i'm having trouble with getting into the cuse pedo story. how can anyone ever top paterno getting fired?
These stories have taught me the difference between pedophiles and pederasts. For anyone keeping score Sandusky and Fine are accused pederasts, they are attracted to boys only. Pedophiles can be attracted to boys and girls.
i'm having trouble with getting into the cuse pedo story. how can anyone ever top paterno getting fired?
These stories have taught me the difference between pedophiles and pederasts. For anyone keeping score Sandusky and Fine are accused pederasts, they are attracted to boys only. Pedophiles can be attracted to boys and girls.
So NAMBLA is for pederasts not pedophiles?
i'm having trouble with getting into the cuse pedo story. how can anyone ever top paterno getting fired?
These stories have taught me the difference between pedophiles and pederasts. For anyone keeping score Sandusky and Fine are accused pederasts, they are attracted to boys only. Pedophiles can be attracted to boys and girls.
So NAMBLA is for pederasts not pedophiles?
Correct. Chat rooms are for pedophiles.
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Oh Christ, now JoePa claims to have lung cancer. Poor, feeble, Joe Pa. Hard to get mad at an old guy with cancer, right??
I'd say it's more like karma.
:popcorn:
Oh Christ, now JoePa claims to have lung cancer. Poor, feeble, Joe Pa. Hard to get mad at an old guy with cancer, right??
I'd say it's more like karma.
:popcorn:
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/7248184/syracuse-police-investigating-bernie-fine-molesting-boy-1980s
:sdeek:Quote from: tfaDavis said he was molested by Fine until he was around 27 years old.
:sdeek:
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/7248184/syracuse-police-investigating-bernie-fine-molesting-boy-1980s
:sdeek:Quote from: tfaDavis said he was molested by Fine until he was around 27 years old.
:sdeek:
Is it still considered molestation when the victim is over 18 years old?
LOL at Pete having time to get out of the freaky ADULT chat rooms he's familiarized himself with to deal with child chat rooms.
Ohio State parking lot:
http://www.whosay.com/darrenrovell/photos/94347
Ohio State parking lot:
http://www.whosay.com/darrenrovell/photos/94347
Glad we can finally joke about this. :grin:
Oh Christ, now JoePa claims to have lung cancer. Poor, feeble, Joe Pa. Hard to get mad at an old guy with cancer, right??
I'd say it's more like karma.
:popcorn:
When you are 84 years old if you don't have at least some form of treatable cancer then something is wrong with you.
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/7248184/syracuse-police-investigating-bernie-fine-molesting-boy-1980s
:sdeek:Quote from: tfaDavis said he was molested by Fine until he was around 27 years old.
:sdeek:
Is it still considered molestation when the victim is over 18 years old?
Rape.
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Penn St. source said, "Joe is a lot closer to dying soon than the public is aware. It is very bad."
SPORTSbyBROOKS SPORTSbyBROOKS
Penn St. source said, "Joe is a lot closer to dying soon than the public is aware. It is very bad."
He's rough ridin' killing himself, you dumbasses. He's to going to wack himself, ala Ken Lay, and then remove all civil liability from his estate, and his family keeps their millions and the raped kids get jack crap.
Simultaneously honorable (to his family) and despicable (to raped kids).
Rumblings joe pa's umbrella policy is a claims made policy and he's not going to like the retro active date :sdeek:
HARRISBURG, Pa. (WHTM) – A Carlisle attorney who has joined Jerry Sandusky’s defense team says the former Penn State assistant football coach may have showered with young boys because the children lacked basic hygiene skills. Sandusky is accused of molesting ten boys he met through The Second Mile charity he founded for troubled youth. “Some of these kids don’t have basic hygiene skills,” attorney Karl Rominger said. “Teaching a person to shower at the age of 12 or 14 sounds strange to some people, but people who work with troubled youth will tell you there are a lot of juvenile delinquents and people who are dependent who have to be taught basic life skills like how to put soap on their body.” Rominger, who spoke with abc27 News Tuesday, added that his college cross country coach often showered with the team. He said he does not disagree with Sandusky’s decision to talk to the media. He does, however, believe he could have come across a little better. “The problem is if you’re an innocent person who’s not articulate, you’re not going to come across well, but you’re still innocent,” Rominger said. “A guilty person who is very articulate might come across innocent. So it’s not a fair fight.”
Well part 1 of Joe Amendola’s legal mastermind was to convince everyone Jerry Sandusky is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Part 2 was to have everyone call a gay sex hotline. And now the third leg of his legal team’s defense is to convince the world Jerry Sandusky was just teaching kids how to shower.
Well laugh if you want, but Father Philip taught a lot of us boys how to shower...and other important life skills like how to masturbate and how to give a blow job.
RT @PeterAlexander #BREAKING Paterno: "I knew innapropriate action was taken by Jerry Sandusky with a youngster."
QuoteRT @PeterAlexander #BREAKING Paterno: "I knew innapropriate action was taken by Jerry Sandusky with a youngster."
Very interested to hear snyder's response to this given his statement on Paterno and his judgement.
QuoteRT @PeterAlexander #BREAKING Paterno: "I knew innapropriate action was taken by Jerry Sandusky with a youngster."
Very interested to hear snyder's response to this given his statement on Paterno and his judgement.
I'm not. I'd rather him not say another rough ridin' word regarding Joe Paterno or anyone else that was ever employed by Penn State for as long as he lives.
@PeteThamelNYT Pete Thamel
RT @Ben_Jones88: I can confirm that Penn State quarterback Matt McGloin was knocked out after practice today during a fight. More to come.
@PeteThamelNYT Pete Thamel
RT @Ben_Jones88: I can confirm that Penn State quarterback Matt McGloin was knocked out after practice today during a fight. More to come.
Defending Joe or attacking Joe?
I'm told McGloin had seizure from hitting head on the ground before Drake threw punch. Wasn't 'knocked out' as source believed.
mcgloin acted like a bitch on twitter about it and then said that his account was hacked and to disregard his previous tweets :lol:Seriously, he had it coming to him. We'll find out if he was told twice soon.
sad to see him go out like this.
sad to see him go out like this.
:facepalm:sad to see him go out like this.
Yep. He should have been ruined and had to live for years with the pain of what he did. This is an easy way out.
A fitting end for him.
The old SOB loved football and it's killing him now that he's not part of it. :cry:sad to see him go out like this.
Yep. He should have been ruined and had to live for years with the pain of what he did. This is an easy way out.
A fitting end for him.
I'd like to see him stick around for the civil suits. He can tell the rape victims it was just a huge coincidence he sold his house to his wife for $1 when the grand jury came out.yeah because it couldn't have anything to do with getting his final affairs in order......oh.....
I'd like to see him stick around for the civil suits. He can tell the rape victims it was just a huge coincidence he sold his house to his wife for $1 when the grand jury came out.yeah because it couldn't have anything to do with getting his final affairs in order......oh.....
I'd like to see him stick around for the civil suits. He can tell the rape victims it was just a huge coincidence he sold his house to his wife for $1 when the grand jury came out.yeah because it couldn't have anything to do with getting his final affairs in order......oh.....
as always don't let facts get in the way of your witch hunt.I'd like to see him stick around for the civil suits. He can tell the rape victims it was just a huge coincidence he sold his house to his wife for $1 when the grand jury came out.yeah because it couldn't have anything to do with getting his final affairs in order......oh.....
Also, he wasn't diagnosed with Cancer until after all of this came to light.
Why would he be getting his "affairs in order" immediately after learning that he was likely at risk of massive civil liability for his clear role (as reported by the results of a grand jury) in enabling a child rapist to stay free and continue contact with children?
LOL, it's ridiculous.
The old SOB loved football and it's killing him now that he's not part of it. :cry:
Family stating that death reports are not true, re-enforcing the dangers of reporting things.
ednksu outing himself as a giant piece of crap in this threadyeah screw due process of law!!!
ednksu outing himself as a giant piece of crap in this threadyeah screw due process of law!!!
people like you probably think PIPA and SOPA are good ideas too.
# 1 under Penn law he did what was required. there is a reason his AD and (I believe) the VP are facing issues.ednksu outing himself as a giant piece of crap in this threadyeah screw due process of law!!!
people like you probably think PIPA and SOPA are good ideas too.
Unless you expect witnesses who previously gave their sworn testimony to a grand jury to suddenly be revealed as perjurers, we pretty much DO have due process here. :dunno: Joe Pa included.
ednksu outing himself as a giant piece of crap in this threadyeah screw due process of law!!!
# 1 under Penn law he did what was required. there is a reason his AD and (I believe) the VP are facing issues.ednksu outing himself as a giant piece of crap in this threadyeah screw due process of law!!!
people like you probably think PIPA and SOPA are good ideas too.
Unless you expect witnesses who previously gave their sworn testimony to a grand jury to suddenly be revealed as perjurers, we pretty much DO have due process here. :dunno: Joe Pa included.
#2 If we believe Mcqueary he either lied under grand jury testimony or is lying now about the detail he told to JoePa
#3 Just because a court proceeding initiates against one person does not mean that protection applies to all involved, especially tertiary members of a case
you mad bro?# 1 under Penn law he did what was required. there is a reason his AD and (I believe) the VP are facing issues.ednksu outing himself as a giant piece of crap in this threadyeah screw due process of law!!!
people like you probably think PIPA and SOPA are good ideas too.
Unless you expect witnesses who previously gave their sworn testimony to a grand jury to suddenly be revealed as perjurers, we pretty much DO have due process here. :dunno: Joe Pa included.
#2 If we believe Mcqueary he either lied under grand jury testimony or is lying now about the detail he told to JoePa
#3 Just because a court proceeding initiates against one person does not mean that protection applies to all involved, especially tertiary members of a case
1. I could give a eff about what he is required to do under Penn law. A eff. Pontius Paterno attempted to wash his hands of child rape. No dice, bro.
2. Of course Mcquery is lying to the press. He isn't at risk of perjury charges with the press. He'll say the same thing in the trial that he said in the grand jury testimony or he goes to jail as a felon. Period. His SWORN MOTHER rough ridin' TESTIMONY IS THAT JOE PA SAID "MEH"
3. You can stick "tertiary" straight up you ass...you know, the place that Joe Pa' allowed Jerry Sandusky to continue to put his male genitals in kids.
RIH Joe
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BREAKING: Family says Joe Paterno, winningest coach in major college football, has died
you mad bro?# 1 under Penn law he did what was required. there is a reason his AD and (I believe) the VP are facing issues.ednksu outing himself as a giant piece of crap in this threadyeah screw due process of law!!!
people like you probably think PIPA and SOPA are good ideas too.
Unless you expect witnesses who previously gave their sworn testimony to a grand jury to suddenly be revealed as perjurers, we pretty much DO have due process here. :dunno: Joe Pa included.
#2 If we believe Mcqueary he either lied under grand jury testimony or is lying now about the detail he told to JoePa
#3 Just because a court proceeding initiates against one person does not mean that protection applies to all involved, especially tertiary members of a case
1. I could give a eff about what he is required to do under Penn law. A eff. Pontius Paterno attempted to wash his hands of child rape. No dice, bro.
2. Of course Mcquery is lying to the press. He isn't at risk of perjury charges with the press. He'll say the same thing in the trial that he said in the grand jury testimony or he goes to jail as a felon. Period. His SWORN MOTHER rough ridin' TESTIMONY IS THAT JOE PA SAID "MEH"
3. You can stick "tertiary" straight up you ass...you know, the place that Joe Pa' allowed Jerry Sandusky to continue to put his male genitals in kids.
also youre wrong if you go by what Mcquery told the grand jury. Can't have it both ways.
The Onions take on it (http://www.theonion.com/articles/joe-paterno-dies-in-hospital-doctors-promise-to-te,27125/)
I personally don't look at him any different than i did a year ago.
I'm fully with Pete on this one. Small part of his life, but not preventing the rapeyness stuff from happening is a big enough deal to completely tarnish him. What a piece of crap.
I personally don't look at him any different than i did a year ago.
I'm assuming you already thought he was a total piece of crap for sticking around only to get the all-time wins record?
I'm fully with Pete on this one. Small part of his life, but not preventing the rapeyness stuff from happening is a big enough deal to completely tarnish him. What a piece of crap.
No. It wasn't a small part of his life. It was a small window that gave the outside world an accurate glimpse into who he was as a person and what his values were.
Sharon and I are pained by the loss of Joe Paterno. He and his wife Sue were dear friends and genuinely caring people. Joe’s passion for helping others exceeded even his unparalleled successes on the field. He gave of himself for his state, his community, his university and those within his program. He has and will continue to impact, in a most positive way, the lives of thousands of young men as well as thousands of us who are not so young anymore. He was truly a special person. The immense good that he has done will most certainly live on.
Quote from: LHC LHC Bill SnyderSharon and I are pained by the loss of Joe Paterno. He and his wife Sue were dear friends and genuinely caring people. Joe’s passion for helping others exceeded even his unparalleled successes on the field. He gave of himself for his state, his community, his university and those within his program. He has and will continue to impact, in a most positive way, the lives of thousands of young men as well as thousands of us who are not so young anymore. He was truly a special person. The immense good that he has done will most certainly live on.
:thumbs:I'm fully with Pete on this one. Small part of his life, but not preventing the rapeyness stuff from happening is a big enough deal to completely tarnish him. What a piece of crap.
No. It wasn't a small part of his life. It was a small window that gave the outside world an accurate glimpse into who he was as a person and what his values were.
Quote from: LHC Bill SnyderSharon and I are pained by the loss of Joe Paterno. He and his wife Sue were dear friends and genuinely caring people. Joe’s passion for helping others exceeded even his unparalleled successes on the field. He gave of himself for his state, his community, his university and those within his program. He has and will continue to impact, in a most positive way, the lives of thousands of young men as well as thousands of us who are not so young anymore. He was truly a special person. The immense good that he has done will most certainly live on.
I personally don't understand how the average sports fan can't step back and evaluate it as NCAA football wins vs Child rape. We just had a ten win season, are any of those games worth a child rape? The whole season? 10 or 11 of these seasons put together? How many wins are valuable enough to equate to one child rape? What is the ratio?
Also, all the people saying he did so much more are rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). He won football games. Any feeling or experience other than that is simply people being happy they were successful and enjoying other things more than they would have thanks to a little bit of that happiness implanting a feeling on something else. School was fun because I had fun on Saturdays type of thing.
All the people saying they chose PSU because of Paterno are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and frankly, probably just lucky they were accepted to any university. They should have this sense of feeling toward low entrance standards or some state law saying that all retards w/in state boarders can't be turned down by state schools. JoePa didn't fight for the retards. How could he be expected to care about retards, he didn't obvs care about kids at all.
I personally don't understand how the average sports fan can't step back and evaluate it as NCAA football wins vs Child rape. We just had a ten win season, are any of those games worth a child rape? The whole season? 10 or 11 of these seasons put together? How many wins are valuable enough to equate to one child rape? What is the ratio?
Also, all the people saying he did so much more are rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). He won football games. Any feeling or experience other than that is simply people being happy they were successful and enjoying other things more than they would have thanks to a little bit of that happiness implanting a feeling on something else. School was fun because I had fun on Saturdays type of thing.
All the people saying they chose PSU because of Paterno are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and frankly, probably just lucky they were accepted to any university. They should have this sense of feeling toward low entrance standards or some state law saying that all retards w/in state boarders can't be turned down by state schools. JoePa didn't fight for the retards. How could he be expected to care about retards, he didn't obvs care about kids at all.
Paterno was huge for the town's economy in the way LHC Bill Snyder has been for The Hat. Paterno gave millions to the university to improve its library. So to say he "just won football games" or whatever is shortsighted. But the rape thingy is a big bummer, for sure. And I think you should change the word ratio in your post to "rape-tio". Good times.
Didn't the guy who raped the kids start this whole charity that helped tons of kids (a lot of whom he probably didn't even rape)?
Didn't the guy who raped the kids start this whole charity that helped tons of kids (a lot of whom he probably didn't even rape)?
Didn't the guy who raped the kids start this whole charity that helped tons of kids (a lot of whom he probably didn't even rape)?
im pretty sure Paterno was the one doing the raping.
Didn't the guy who raped the kids start this whole charity that helped tons of kids (a lot of whom he probably didn't even rape)?
im pretty sure Paterno was the one doing the raping.
whatever, the point is that they both helped a ton of people
http://deadspin.com/5884192/
http://deadspin.com/5884192/
Get the hell out of her driveway, dipshit. It would have been hilarious if she would have gotten hit. Does having a camera give you the right to trespass?
I think the important thing to take away from this story is that the legal system in State College, PA has allowed (actually ordered) an accused pedophile to remain that close to children on a daily basis. JFC. :facepalm:
I think the important thing to take away from this story is that the legal system in State College, PA has allowed (actually ordered) an accused pedophile to remain that close to children on a daily basis. JFC. :facepalm:
They let him stay at his house? Oh the horror. I have serious doubts about the claims of him staring at kids at the park or school or whatever. He's a sack of crap who deserves his fate and more, but there is going to be an obvious hysteria & people are going to be hyper sensitive to some things and completely make up other things.
I think the important thing to take away from this story is that the legal system in State College, PA has allowed (actually ordered) an accused pedophile to remain that close to children on a daily basis. JFC. :facepalm:
They let him stay at his house? Oh the horror. I have serious doubts about the claims of him staring at kids at the park or school or whatever. He's a sack of crap who deserves his fate and more, but there is going to be an obvious hysteria & people are going to be hyper sensitive to some things and completely make up other things.
I would bet Sandusky is being pretty damn careful around kids. This is just someone looking for news.
I think the important thing to take away from this story is that the legal system in State College, PA has allowed (actually ordered) an accused pedophile to remain that close to children on a daily basis. JFC. :facepalm:
They let him stay at his house? Oh the horror. I have serious doubts about the claims of him staring at kids at the park or school or whatever. He's a sack of crap who deserves his fate and more, but there is going to be an obvious hysteria & people are going to be hyper sensitive to some things and completely make up other things.
I would bet Sandusky is being pretty damn careful around kids. This is just someone looking for news.
Probably as careful as he was when he went on Bob Costas and said he was teaching them how to shower. He is full on respect.
I think the important thing to take away from this story is that the legal system in State College, PA has allowed (actually ordered) an accused pedophile to remain that close to children on a daily basis. JFC. :facepalm:
They let him stay at his house? Oh the horror. I have serious doubts about the claims of him staring at kids at the park or school or whatever. He's a sack of crap who deserves his fate and more, but there is going to be an obvious hysteria & people are going to be hyper sensitive to some things and completely make up other things.
I would bet Sandusky is being pretty damn careful around kids. This is just someone looking for news.
Probably as careful as he was when he went on Bob Costas and said he was teaching them how to shower. He is full on respect.
His strategy is a bit unorthodox.
I think the important thing to take away from this story is that the legal system in State College, PA has allowed (actually ordered) an accused pedophile to remain that close to children on a daily basis. JFC. :facepalm:
They let him stay at his house? Oh the horror. I have serious doubts about the claims of him staring at kids at the park or school or whatever. He's a sack of crap who deserves his fate and more, but there is going to be an obvious hysteria & people are going to be hyper sensitive to some things and completely make up other things.
I would bet Sandusky is being pretty damn careful around kids. This is just someone looking for news.
Probably as careful as he was when he went on Bob Costas and said he was teaching them how to shower. He is full on Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
OK_Cat, what is wrong with your boy?
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7341076/friend-contradicted-penn-state-nittany-lions-assistant-coach-mike-mcqueary-report-says
•Couch: Stain will last foreverMakes me think of Pip (Sandler) boning that chick on Michael McKean's couch in Airheads.
McQueary's attorney, Elliott Strokoff
QuoteMcQueary's attorney, Elliott Strokoff
You have got to be kidding me.
Anyone else think that Sandusky might not get convicted?
I've got a bad feeling.
Anyone else think that Sandusky might not get convicted?
I've got a bad feeling.
thought i saw rumors the prosecution has some pretty sick crap to reveal. No way he gets away, imo.
Quote•Couch: Stain will last foreverMakes me think of Pip (Sandler) boning that chick on Michael McKean's couch in Airheads.QuoteMcQueary's attorney, Elliott Strokoff
You have got to be kidding me.
I know that I have made my share of mistakes.
However I hope that I will be able to say that I cared. There has been love in my heart.
My wish is that you care and have love in your heart. Love never ends. It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
I believe that it can overcome all things!
With love,
Jer
Yes, I am a “Great Pretender.” I pretend that I can sing. I pretend about many things. However, I can’t pretend about my feelings and want you to always remember that I care.
Not always a pretender - “Jer”
Driving home the other night, I had many thoughts. Some happy, some a little sad. As you know, I am very emotional and kind of let everything out. I’m not good at hiding my feelings. I have many “Forrest Gump” qualities and I thought a lot about that more as I was driving home. As you would expect, I cried at that movie.
I remembered Forrest and how he was so naive (oblivious to the world) and not very smart. He was so happy because he wasn’t caught up in being anything other than a caring person (I wish that I had more of that in me).
There was his wife and some friends who didn’t understand what he had and tried to find their happiness by partying and living the fast life. So many people look for happiness that way. It didn’t come for his wife or his friends. They turned away from him and went searching. Unfortunately, they only found hopelessness, despair and became depressed.
Forrest stayed loyal, he didn’t know any better. Somehow, people like him are blessed. He never gave up because he cared. When those special people came back to his simple life of love and concern they found hope and true happiness.
As you go through life you may have moments when you think that there is a lifestyle out there somewhere that is the answer. I hope that in the back of your mind will be a memory of simple times, hopefully laughter, joy and warm smiles.
Try not to ever forget all of those who care. Try to remember canoes, squirt guns, water balloons, fighting outside, miniature golf, Polish soccer, basketball, racquetball, football, swimming, studying, lifting, working, golfing, volleyball, kickball, soccer, laughing, hurting, arguing, crying, caring and so much more fun.
Always,
Forrest Jer
Very few people know about this story and probably less care. I guess that I’m writing it for me. I’m Jer.
(Victim 4) is a young man that came into Jer’s life. It was a difficult time for Jer because he had lost his dad. Jer and his dad shared so much, did many things together. (Victim 4) comes along and he and Jer seem to enjoy the same experiences. Both seemed to be in need. They loved playing games, competing, singing, laughing, sharing experiences, just being themselves. Jer remembers driving (Victim 4) home. (Victim 4) would say, “Tell me another story, Jer.”
Jer, of course, being filled with them would come up with one. Jer remembers how he didn’t want those rides to end.
Jer became attached to (Victim 4) and always will be. (Victim 4) loved Justice and Staush, and they love him. He and Jer played Polish soccer, wrote papers together, rode (Victim 4)'s four wheeler even though Jer was scared to death, studied in the playground, roller skated, ice skated, jet skiied, went to a bowl game, spent days at football and soccer camp, canoed, traveled and more. He met and did things with Penn State football players and spent many hours with them and Jer.
It wasn’t (Victim 4), Jer, LaVar, Mac, Courtney, David, Anthony, Josh, etc., it was “we.”
Times were not always perfect. There were ups and downs. There were arguments, fights, they cared! No matter what, there was a connection that would help them last through their difficult times. There was always a sensitive, caring feeling deep inside. Jer had learned through many experiences that life isn’t perfect, even with someone he considered to be his “best friend.”
Life is far from perfect at this stage. Something or things have come into (Victim 4)’s life that appear to have taken him over. It’s powerful, a cloud of smoke that has engulfed him, for Jer it has been a dark cloud. (Victim 4) seemed to fight it, coming over trying to do hockey, but couldn’t pull it off. He seemed to be losing these battles more and more.
Inch by inch the cloud has chocked him and taken over. It has smothered sensitivity and love, taken away his caring and enthusiasm. His enthusiasm has been replaced by sleep, his caring replaced by apathy (no concern). “Tell me another story, Jer, “ has been replaced by “I don’t care.” This cloud has destroyed soccer and hockey, choked smiles and laughter. There is fear that it has reached his insides, killing his feelings.
Jer believes that there will always be something special inside (Victim 4).
He hopes that it will last, return, if it has left. The players miss him.
They say, “come back, (Victim 4)!” “Stay with us, (Victim 4)!” Jer would love to have the good times back. The players shout, “be with us to the end!”
Jer would love to hear “Tell me another story, Jer.” Jer may not be worthy, but he needs a “best friend.” It doesn’t look real good.
Jer understands life and its changes. He’s proud, too proud to beg for a friend, extended family member. The story will end the way (Victim 4) wants it. Jer wants to be there to the end, but that’s (Victim 4)’s call. If (Victim 4) ever needs him, he’ll come.
Regardless, they have had an experience that others won’t. Jer will not forget and always care!
Once again, I have decided to write some of my thoughts.
I write because you mean so much to us. I write because I am concerned about all of us. I write because I have seen the hurt on [redacted]'s face when you don’t show for him, even though you have given your word. I write because of the churning in my own stomach when you don’t care. I write because I still hope that there will be meaning to the time we have known each other.
[Redacted] and I have seen this before, had similar experiences and to be honest, not very happy conclusions. You like to express yourself in a straight-forward manner. This will be a very direct message from us.
We seem to be a convenience. When it is inconvenient or a better deal comes along, you leave a trail of broken promises. Commitments seem to be meaningless.
You are able to bounce from person to person, object to object. You seek happiness through control, domination and what satisfies the moment.
You have to hit the home run, swing for the fence. You don’t understand or choose not to worry about loyalty, commitment or caring. The motivation is to get what you want regardless of others.
On the surface this many appear to work for you. People enjoy your youthfulness. Different people show up to give you temporary fulfillment.
We could be wrong but don’t believe that this works. Our experience shows otherwise. You will get older. People will expect more. Your youthfulness will disappear. If you cannot care, you will not be able to live up to the expectations. Your so-called “best friends” will vanish. Happiness will escape your life.
You might want to stop and think about true happiness. It seems to come more often when you don’t try as hard, look to just get a single, reach out to others, lose yourself, become satisfied with plain, simple people who care.
It’s your life! You can continue as you have, keep looking for happiness or you can find it. We’d love to be a part of your life, but that’s your choice.
We’ve been here, made it through some challenges. We want to always be there for you!
With some hope and a lot of caring.
We are,
Jer
Sorry if LukeBenny-ing here. Found these extremely creepy letters in the Mainboard thread about it, don't think they've been posted here.Quote from: Gross Old WeirdoI know that I have made my share of mistakes.
However I hope that I will be able to say that I cared. There has been love in my heart.
My wish is that you care and have love in your heart. Love never ends. It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
I believe that it can overcome all things!
With love,
JerQuote from: Seriously What Is Up With This DudeYes, I am a “Great Pretender.” I pretend that I can sing. I pretend about many things. However, I can’t pretend about my feelings and want you to always remember that I care.
Not always a pretender - “Jer”Quote from: I'm Gonna BarfDriving home the other night, I had many thoughts. Some happy, some a little sad. As you know, I am very emotional and kind of let everything out. I’m not good at hiding my feelings. I have many “Forrest Gump” qualities and I thought a lot about that more as I was driving home. As you would expect, I cried at that movie.
I remembered Forrest and how he was so naive (oblivious to the world) and not very smart. He was so happy because he wasn’t caught up in being anything other than a caring person (I wish that I had more of that in me).
There was his wife and some friends who didn’t understand what he had and tried to find their happiness by partying and living the fast life. So many people look for happiness that way. It didn’t come for his wife or his friends. They turned away from him and went searching. Unfortunately, they only found hopelessness, despair and became depressed.
Forrest stayed loyal, he didn’t know any better. Somehow, people like him are blessed. He never gave up because he cared. When those special people came back to his simple life of love and concern they found hope and true happiness.
As you go through life you may have moments when you think that there is a lifestyle out there somewhere that is the answer. I hope that in the back of your mind will be a memory of simple times, hopefully laughter, joy and warm smiles.
Try not to ever forget all of those who care. Try to remember canoes, squirt guns, water balloons, fighting outside, miniature golf, Polish soccer, basketball, racquetball, football, swimming, studying, lifting, working, golfing, volleyball, kickball, soccer, laughing, hurting, arguing, crying, caring and so much more fun.
Always,
Forrest JerQuote from: EwwwwwwVery few people know about this story and probably less care. I guess that I’m writing it for me. I’m Jer.
(Victim 4) is a young man that came into Jer’s life. It was a difficult time for Jer because he had lost his dad. Jer and his dad shared so much, did many things together. (Victim 4) comes along and he and Jer seem to enjoy the same experiences. Both seemed to be in need. They loved playing games, competing, singing, laughing, sharing experiences, just being themselves. Jer remembers driving (Victim 4) home. (Victim 4) would say, “Tell me another story, Jer.”
Jer, of course, being filled with them would come up with one. Jer remembers how he didn’t want those rides to end.
Jer became attached to (Victim 4) and always will be. (Victim 4) loved Justice and Staush, and they love him. He and Jer played Polish soccer, wrote papers together, rode (Victim 4)'s four wheeler even though Jer was scared to death, studied in the playground, roller skated, ice skated, jet skiied, went to a bowl game, spent days at football and soccer camp, canoed, traveled and more. He met and did things with Penn State football players and spent many hours with them and Jer.
It wasn’t (Victim 4), Jer, LaVar, Mac, Courtney, David, Anthony, Josh, etc., it was “we.”
Times were not always perfect. There were ups and downs. There were arguments, fights, they cared! No matter what, there was a connection that would help them last through their difficult times. There was always a sensitive, caring feeling deep inside. Jer had learned through many experiences that life isn’t perfect, even with someone he considered to be his “best friend.”
Life is far from perfect at this stage. Something or things have come into (Victim 4)’s life that appear to have taken him over. It’s powerful, a cloud of smoke that has engulfed him, for Jer it has been a dark cloud. (Victim 4) seemed to fight it, coming over trying to do hockey, but couldn’t pull it off. He seemed to be losing these battles more and more.
Inch by inch the cloud has chocked him and taken over. It has smothered sensitivity and love, taken away his caring and enthusiasm. His enthusiasm has been replaced by sleep, his caring replaced by apathy (no concern). “Tell me another story, Jer, “ has been replaced by “I don’t care.” This cloud has destroyed soccer and hockey, choked smiles and laughter. There is fear that it has reached his insides, killing his feelings.
Jer believes that there will always be something special inside (Victim 4).
He hopes that it will last, return, if it has left. The players miss him.
They say, “come back, (Victim 4)!” “Stay with us, (Victim 4)!” Jer would love to have the good times back. The players shout, “be with us to the end!”
Jer would love to hear “Tell me another story, Jer.” Jer may not be worthy, but he needs a “best friend.” It doesn’t look real good.
Jer understands life and its changes. He’s proud, too proud to beg for a friend, extended family member. The story will end the way (Victim 4) wants it. Jer wants to be there to the end, but that’s (Victim 4)’s call. If (Victim 4) ever needs him, he’ll come.
Regardless, they have had an experience that others won’t. Jer will not forget and always care!Quote from: This Dude Is A Legitimate Crazy effOnce again, I have decided to write some of my thoughts.
I write because you mean so much to us. I write because I am concerned about all of us. I write because I have seen the hurt on [redacted]'s face when you don’t show for him, even though you have given your word. I write because of the churning in my own stomach when you don’t care. I write because I still hope that there will be meaning to the time we have known each other.
[Redacted] and I have seen this before, had similar experiences and to be honest, not very happy conclusions. You like to express yourself in a straight-forward manner. This will be a very direct message from us.
We seem to be a convenience. When it is inconvenient or a better deal comes along, you leave a trail of broken promises. Commitments seem to be meaningless.
You are able to bounce from person to person, object to object. You seek happiness through control, domination and what satisfies the moment.
You have to hit the home run, swing for the fence. You don’t understand or choose not to worry about loyalty, commitment or caring. The motivation is to get what you want regardless of others.
On the surface this many appear to work for you. People enjoy your youthfulness. Different people show up to give you temporary fulfillment.
We could be wrong but don’t believe that this works. Our experience shows otherwise. You will get older. People will expect more. Your youthfulness will disappear. If you cannot care, you will not be able to live up to the expectations. Your so-called “best friends” will vanish. Happiness will escape your life.
You might want to stop and think about true happiness. It seems to come more often when you don’t try as hard, look to just get a single, reach out to others, lose yourself, become satisfied with plain, simple people who care.
It’s your life! You can continue as you have, keep looking for happiness or you can find it. We’d love to be a part of your life, but that’s your choice.
We’ve been here, made it through some challenges. We want to always be there for you!
With some hope and a lot of caring.
We are,
Jer
So! When is sentencing passed down?
Why would any LSU fan be faced with a choice of taking a shower at Penn State OR supporting Alabama? What an incredibly nonsensical, dumb t-shirt.
Convicted child molester Jerry Sandusky had a surprise waiting for him when he was sent to jail the first time, reports Andrew Strickler of The Daily.
As soon as the lights went out at night, Sandusky's fellow inmates at the Centre County Correctional Facility serenaded him with a chorus from Pink Floyd's "The Wall":
"Hey, teacher, leave those kids alone!"
Similar humiliations are expected to continue now that Sandusky is back in jail having been convicted of the crimes.
Jerry Sandusky is currently on suicide watch. He'll be sentenced in 90 days.
:horrorsurprise:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--joe-paterno-role-jerry-sandusky-coverup-grows.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--joe-paterno-role-jerry-sandusky-coverup-grows.html)
:horrorsurprise:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--joe-paterno-role-jerry-sandusky-coverup-grows.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--joe-paterno-role-jerry-sandusky-coverup-grows.html)
The smoking gun we've all been waiting for :sdeek:
Why in the eff do idiotic higher-ups at public universities ever talk about sensitive issues in writing, via emails which can be pulled by any grand jury?
all these mother fuckers going down
I can't concoct a scenario where these victims dont own the campus and every other PSU asset when these civil suits are over.
I can't concoct a scenario where these victims dont own the campus and every other PSU asset when these civil suits are over.
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:sdeek: Despite grammar error.
I can't concoct a scenario where these victims dont own the campus and every other PSU asset when these civil suits are over.
I know that a lot of this has nothing to do with the NCAA side of things, but after it's all said and done, a part of me wonders what in God's name PSU is going to look like in 3-5 years and whether or not that behemoth of a football stadium will even be half filled.
You have to think that the long term impacts to the university overall are going to be pretty severe. Right?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.pennlive.com%2Fmidstate_impact%2Fphoto%2F10231951-large.jpg&hash=3deb3489b196ab20480d1e0ee409307fc0686261)
That is an incredible comb over.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/09/justice/pennsylvania-penn-state-paterno/index.html
So, odds Joe Paterno offed himself to avoid witnessing all of this coming out? Like, didn't take his medicine anymore or something?
So, odds Joe Paterno offed himself to avoid witnessing all of this coming out? Like, didn't take his medicine anymore or something?
Pretty good. Or his doctor decided it was time.
Either way, Louis Freeh is basically building the civil clients case. The whole effing university is getting hit and so is Mrs. P.
Going over to the Freeh press conference at 10am since it is across the street from my firm. Already a circus here. Things are going to get weird.
Going over to the Freeh press conference at 10am since it is across the street from my firm. Already a circus here. Things are going to get weird.
Will try to tweet as much as possible but don't want to get my friend in trouble who got me in.
The report highlights Penn State's decision to allow Sandusky to retire in 1999 "as a valued member of the Penn State football legacy," after allegations in 1998, "essentially granted him license to bring boys to campus facilities for 'grooming' as targets for his assaults."
I have two boys. If anyone even thought about doing this to them, I'd go all "Man on Fire" on them.
I have two boys. If anyone even thought about doing this to them, I'd go all "Man on Fire" on them.
More like Pan on Fire.
Didn't make it in and had to watch from the monitor unfortunately.
But I don't see how this isn't worst case scenario for Penn State.
"Our most saddening and sobering finding is the total disregard for the safety and welfare of Sandusky's child victims by the most senior leaders at Penn State," Freeh said. "The most powerful men at Penn State failed to take any steps for 14 years to protect the children who Sandusky victimized."
Some of the most powerful men at the school "empowered Sandusky to attract potential victims to the campus and football events by allowing him to have continued, unrestricted and unsupervised access" to campus and his affiliation with the football program, the report said. The access, the report states, "provided Sandusky with the very currency that enabled him to attract his victims."
The report also singled out the revered Penn State football program -- one built on the motto "success with honor" -- for criticism. It says Paterno and university leaders allowed Sandusky to retire in 1999, "not as a suspected child predator, but as a valued member of the Penn State football legacy, with future `visibility' at Penn State'," allowing him to groom victims.
The U.S. Department of Education is examining whether the school violated the Clery Act, which requires reporting of certain crimes on campus, including ones of a sexual nature. The report said Penn State's "awareness and interest" in Clery Act compliance was "significantly lacking."
Didn't make it in and had to watch from the monitor unfortunately.
But I don't see how this isn't worst case scenario for Penn State.
No matter how bad things get, they can always get worse.
I feel bad for the Penn State alums out there, but at this point that institution should just be burnt to the ground. Maybe the entire city of State College, too.
Didn't make it in and had to watch from the monitor unfortunately.
But I don't see how this isn't worst case scenario for Penn State.
No matter how bad things get, they can always get worse.
I feel bad for the Penn State alums out there, but at this point that institution should just be burnt to the ground. Maybe the entire city of State College, too.
It's like a freaking cult. Penn State alums are all out of their minds. Penn State BF told me LAST WEEK his biggest regret in life was not buying a 3 foot tall Joe Paterno bobble head.
I asked him this morning if the JoePa statue should come down and he said no.
Mary Krupa, an 18-year-old Penn State freshman who grew up in State College, said the conclusion that the school's highest officials were derelict in protecting children didn't shake her love of the town or the school.
Didn't make it in and had to watch from the monitor unfortunately.
But I don't see how this isn't worst case scenario for Penn State.
No matter how bad things get, they can always get worse.
I feel bad for the Penn State alums out there, but at this point that institution should just be burnt to the ground. Maybe the entire city of State College, too.
It's like a freaking cult. Penn State alums are all out of their minds. Penn State BF told me LAST WEEK his biggest regret in life was not buying a 3 foot tall Joe Paterno bobble head.
I asked him this morning if the JoePa statue should come down and he said no.
@BobbyBigWheel: I still think they should keep the Paterno statue and just tell everyone that it's the guy from Up.
Are there any good bbs boards to read these maniacs defending this? I remember one where they vilified Mccreary for using the term "slapping of sexual nature"
I asked him this morning if the JoePa statue should come down and he said no.
I asked him this morning if the JoePa statue should come down and he said no.
:sdeek:
Great work, stunz. :lol:
I asked him this morning if the JoePa statue should come down and he said no.
:sdeek:
Great work, stunz. :lol:
Eh whatever. He didn't donate or buy season tickets this year.
I interned with a bunch of Penn St. grads back in college. Their comments when Paterno got fired were ridiculous. I think they would shoot anyone in the face that talked bad on Paterno. Sad really...
Are there any good bbs boards to read these maniacs defending this? I remember one where they vilified Mccreary for using the term "slapping of sexual nature"
I am utterly embarrassed that Graham Spanier is an Iowa State alumnus. However, Hawk fan making jokes regarding this is juvenile and sad.
Haven't read anything other than this thread today, but still seems like a weird thing for NCAA to be involved with. It's kind of a reach to say that allowing a boy-raper to stay on or around the program is unfair. Same reason I don't get why athletes get in troubs for smoking weed.
There's criminal and civil suits and death to deal w/the bad guys.
Haven't read anything other than this thread today, but still seems like a weird thing for NCAA to be involved with. It's kind of a reach to say that allowing a boy-raper to stay on or around the program is unfair. Same reason I don't get why athletes get in troubs for smoking weed.
There's criminal and civil suits and death to deal w/the bad guys.
yeah, agreed.
Quote@BobbyBigWheel: I still think they should keep the Paterno statue and just tell everyone that it's the guy from Up.
Quote@BobbyBigWheel: I still think they should keep the Paterno statue and just tell everyone that it's the guy from Up.
lol, except I don't like him being associated with a cartoon that my kids watch. Maybe just put a pedobear mask on it.
Not up to date on NCAA regs, but wouldn't this fall under institutional control given that the coaches and AD employees were involved? Or does it not because it doesn't involve college athletes?
Not up to date on NCAA regs, but wouldn't this fall under institutional control given that the coaches and AD employees were involved? Or does it not because it doesn't involve college athletes?
I am pretty certain lack of institutional control HAS to be tied to specific NCAA violations.
I don't think there's a PedoBear section in the NCAA rulebook . . . yet.
Not up to date on NCAA regs, but wouldn't this fall under institutional control given that the coaches and AD employees were involved? Or does it not because it doesn't involve college athletes?
I am pretty certain lack of institutional control HAS to be tied to specific NCAA violations.
I don't think there's a PedoBear section in the NCAA rulebook . . . yet.
Not up to date on NCAA regs, but wouldn't this fall under institutional control given that the coaches and AD employees were involved? Or does it not because it doesn't involve college athletes?
I am pretty certain lack of institutional control HAS to be tied to specific NCAA violations.
I don't think there's a PedoBear section in the NCAA rulebook . . . yet.
They're going to wiggle into the ethics bylaws.
Not up to date on NCAA regs, but wouldn't this fall under institutional control given that the coaches and AD employees were involved? Or does it not because it doesn't involve college athletes?
I am pretty certain lack of institutional control HAS to be tied to specific NCAA violations.
I don't think there's a PedoBear section in the NCAA rulebook . . . yet.
They're going to wiggle into the ethics bylaws.
If they try and to do that they'll expose themselves to be 10x's bigger hypocrites than they already are . . . most people will cheer it on because they're out for blood. But if they are going to try and go into special treatment territory for college athletes that regular students do not receive than they might as well shut it all down, because that goes on everywhere. If I ran the NCAA, I wouldn't touch this thing.
Not up to date on NCAA regs, but wouldn't this fall under institutional control given that the coaches and AD employees were involved? Or does it not because it doesn't involve college athletes?
I am pretty certain lack of institutional control HAS to be tied to specific NCAA violations.
I don't think there's a PedoBear section in the NCAA rulebook . . . yet.
They're going to wiggle into the ethics bylaws.
If they try and to do that they'll expose themselves to be 10x's bigger hypocrites than they already are . . . most people will cheer it on because they're out for blood. But if they are going to try and go into special treatment territory for college athletes that regular students do not receive than they might as well shut it all down, because that goes on everywhere. If I ran the NCAA, I wouldn't touch this thing.
You can destroy Penn State and make an example out of them, and no one would care.
Hypocrite or not, this happened at a bad time for PSU given what's gone on at Miami and other institutions.
Not up to date on NCAA regs, but wouldn't this fall under institutional control given that the coaches and AD employees were involved? Or does it not because it doesn't involve college athletes?
I am pretty certain lack of institutional control HAS to be tied to specific NCAA violations.
I don't think there's a PedoBear section in the NCAA rulebook . . . yet.
They're going to wiggle into the ethics bylaws.
If they try and to do that they'll expose themselves to be 10x's bigger hypocrites than they already are . . . most people will cheer it on because they're out for blood. But if they are going to try and go into special treatment territory for college athletes that regular students do not receive than they might as well shut it all down, because that goes on everywhere. If I ran the NCAA, I wouldn't touch this thing.
You can destroy Penn State and make an example out of them, and no one would care.
Hypocrite or not, this happened at a bad time for PSU given what's gone on at Miami and other institutions.
Lots of people would care Panj, the NCAA would open themselves up to massive amounts of questioning by powerful entites that would see right through the vindictivness factor. Penn State with proper legal representation could crucify the NCAA in court.
Didn't make it in and had to watch from the monitor unfortunately.
But I don't see how this isn't worst case scenario for Penn State.
No matter how bad things get, they can always get worse.
I feel bad for the Penn State alums out there, but at this point that institution should just be burnt to the ground. Maybe the entire city of State College, too.
It's like a freaking cult. Penn State alums are all out of their minds. Penn State BF told me LAST WEEK his biggest regret in life was not buying a 3 foot tall Joe Paterno bobble head.
I asked him this morning if the JoePa statue should come down and he said no.
MCMW writ large.Haven't read anything other than this thread today, but still seems like a weird thing for NCAA to be involved with. It's kind of a reach to say that allowing a boy-raper to stay on or around the program is unfair. Same reason I don't get why athletes get in troubs for smoking weed.
There's criminal and civil suits and death to deal w/the bad guys.
yeah, agreed.
I guess the counter-argument is that either could imply to recruits that "we don't give a eff what you do, we are going to win. Get high (but still kick ass at football), rape boys, etc. DO NOT GIVE A eff" and thus the school would have a recruiting advantage. :dunno:
The handful of students and alumni that gathered in Penn State's student center this morning to watch the release of the Freeh report live were stunned when the channel suddenly switched.
While most of campus was still sleepy, the small group was viewing CNN on a large screen, or one of several smaller screens nearby, in anticipation of the 9 a.m. release of the report on the sex abuse scandal that has gripped the school. Most were hoping that the report, part of a seven-month probe by former FBI Director Louis Freeh, would exonerate legendary football coach Joe Paterno.
But, just as an anchor was ready to speak about the report, the television screens suddenly went blank. They then turned to a public access channel featuring a reporter from The Morning Call newspaper in Allentown about the state budget. Everyone watching suddenly went scrambling to find a way to switch the channel back at the student center, known as the HUB-Robeson Center Facility, or simply, "the Hub."
"Is this some kind of conspiracy?" asked Mary Krupa, an 18-year-old freshman from State College, Pa.
John Kruse, 48, an alumnus, was also in the student center at the time.
"I'm here today to find out who know what and when," Kruse said of the report.
Kruse had been waiting in anticipation, and trying not to pre-judge what Freeh might find, when the channel changed.
On the public access channel, The Morning Call reporter was discussing the state budget, and referred to an item he dubbed a, "$27 million turkey," as Kruse watched in disbelief.
"I don't care about your $27 million turkey," Kruse shouted toward the TV set. "Come on and change the channel."
Several students went to speak with a student working at the main desk at the student center. But the student said a university employee was in charge of what is broadcast. That person, the student said, was in a meeting and could not be reached.
They're going to wiggle it into the ethic bylaws! :crossfingers: :sdeek:
If they try and to do that they'll expose themselves to be 10x's bigger . . . most people will cheer it on because they're out for blood! :jerk::blush:If I ran, I wouldn't touch this thing. :fistpump:
maybe just the tip :pbj:
— Handwritten note, apparently from Paterno to Sandusky: "If there were no (Second) Mile, then I believe you ... probably could be the next Penn State FB coach. But you wanted the best of two worlds and I probably should have sat down with you six or seven years and said look Jerry, if you want to be head coach at Penn State, give up your association with the (Second) Mile and concentrate on nothing but your family and Penn State. ... You are too deeply involved in both."
The really important issue here is, are there any recruits or players we could take from them?
Quote— Handwritten note, apparently from Paterno to Sandusky: "If there were no (Second) Mile, then I believe you ... probably could be the next Penn State FB coach. But you wanted the best of two worlds and I probably should have sat down with you six or seven years and said look Jerry, if you want to be head coach at Penn State, give up your association with the (Second) Mile and concentrate on nothing but your family and Penn State. ... You are too deeply involved in both."
Quote— Handwritten note, apparently from Paterno to Sandusky: "If there were no (Second) Mile, then I believe you ... probably could be the next Penn State FB coach. But you wanted the best of two worlds and I probably should have sat down with you six or seven years and said look Jerry, if you want to be head coach at Penn State, give up your association with the (Second) Mile and concentrate on nothing but your family and Penn State. ... You are too deeply involved in both."
Ah, the classic scene from any "Wallstreet" type movie where the grizzled veteran takes the young up-and-comer under his wing and says "Kid, you can make it in this business. Maybe even have my job someday. But you gotta dial down the child raping first. I mean, get that crap under control."
Quote— Handwritten note, apparently from Paterno to Sandusky: "If there were no (Second) Mile, then I believe you ... probably could be the next Penn State FB coach. But you wanted the best of two worlds and I probably should have sat down with you six or seven years and said look Jerry, if you want to be head coach at Penn State, give up your association with the (Second) Mile and concentrate on nothing but your family and Penn State. ... You are too deeply involved in both."
Quote— Handwritten note, apparently from Paterno to Sandusky: "If there were no (Second) Mile, then I believe you ... probably could be the next Penn State FB coach. But you wanted the best of two worlds and I probably should have sat down with you six or seven years and said look Jerry, if you want to be head coach at Penn State, give up your association with the (Second) Mile and concentrate on nothing but your family and Penn State. ... You are too deeply involved in both."
Absent context, what does ^^^ have to do with child rape? Reads more like, "hey bad person, you should've quit the rough ridin' charity project and gotten me some more linebackers."
Still haven't read anything, but isn't there way more damning evidence than this?
— "Four of the most powerful people at The Pennsylvania State University — President Graham B. Spanier, Senior Vice President-Finance and Business Gary C. Schultz, Athletic Director Timothy M. Curley and Head Football Coach Joseph V. Paterno — failed to protect against a child sexual predator harming children for over a decade. These men concealed Sandusky's activities from the Board of Trustees, the University community and authorities."
— Spanier, Schultz, Paterno and Curley "repeatedly concealed critical facts" about Sandusky's abuse from authorities and others "in order to avoid the consequences of bad publicity... ."
— "Despite their knowledge of the criminal investigation of Sandusky, Spanier, Schultz, Paterno and Curley took no action to limit Sandusky's access to Penn State facilities or took any measures to protect children on their campuses."
Right. That top quote featuring Paterno bitching about Sandusky's work ethic, is a specific example. The next 3 quotes are summaries or conclusions. There are specific examples in the report that lead to the conclusions, right? I thought I'd heard there was an email chain that made it clear that Paterno put the kibosh on any plan to report.
Not sure if luked, but the Second Mile is an organization for the benefit of PA youth: http://www.thesecondmile.org/welcome.php
Not sure if luked, but the Second Mile is an organization for the benefit of PA youth: http://www.thesecondmile.org/welcome.php
any way that Pennsylvania State University just shuts things down? No more PSU board up the windows send the kids somewhere else to go to school?
QuoteThe report highlights Penn State's decision to allow Sandusky to retire in 1999 "as a valued member of the Penn State football legacy," after allegations in 1998, "essentially granted him license to bring boys to campus facilities for 'grooming' as targets for his assaults."
I've tried to be as fair as possible regarding this mess until we knew all of the facts, but now that we know the facts, if there's ever been a more appropriate use of #teamburnitdown, I've yet to see it.
I have two boys. If anyone even thought about doing this to them, I'd go all "Man on Fire" on them.
Quote@BobbyBigWheel: I still think they should keep the Paterno statue and just tell everyone that it's the guy from Up.
lol, except I don't like him being associated with a cartoon that my kids watch. Maybe just put a pedobear mask on it.
Move it to shower
A time bomb that explodes and litters the landscape with wins, great Linebackers, awesomness, and fantastic hair.
Not sure if luked, but the Second Mile is an organization for the benefit of PA youth: http://www.thesecondmile.org/welcome.php
They are insane. my god.
http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2012/7/13/3156884/the-report-and-why-its-a-load-od-crap
They are insane. my god.
http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2012/7/13/3156884/the-report-and-why-its-a-load-od-crap
It's not there any more.
I hope Penn State loses civil suits until the walls of the accounting office cave in. I hope that Spanier, Schultz and Curley go to prison for perjury. I hope the NCAA gives Penn State the death penalty it most richly deserves. The worst scandal in college football history deserves the worst penalty the NCAA can give. They gave it to SMU for winning without regard for morals. They should give it to Penn State for the same thing. The only difference is, at Penn State they didn't pay for it with Corvettes. They paid for it with lives.
I wasn't in this camp, nor anywhere close to it. What happened at Penn State was an issue for the law, not bylaws I thought. If the school was going to get punished it would do so by judges and a jury of their peers and not the arbitrary justice system the NCAA leans on with the Committee on Infractions.
But then I read the 267-page Freeh Report that came out on Thursday morning, listened to Louis Freeh himself during his press conference and waited to hear what the Penn State Board of Trustees and the Paterno Family had to say.
And I kept coming to the conclusion that Penn State should be given the death penalty.
In light of the Louis Freeh investigation report that dropped like an anvil Thursday morning, the NCAA no longer has a choice but to aggressively pursue the so-called death penalty for Penn State football.
Since it has been determined that Penn State knew a lot more than it let on — including possible involvement by its late football coach in keeping silent about Sandusky’s actions — then the NCAA should prepare to hand down its death penalty to a Division I football program for only the second time in its history, after Southern Methodist University received it in 1987.
This one time the public should welcome the NCAA’s heavy hand.
Shuttering Beaver Stadium for two years would take Penn State football down a peg. It would also punish loads of hard-working athletes who have done nothing wrong, as well as all the fans. But that will be a far better than allowing a pedophile-sheltering athletic department that was bent on self-preservation to have itself preserved. If Penn State football carries on this fall, then the worldviews of Curley and Schultz and Spanier and Paterno will prevail. Though all four men lost their jobs, their mission to protect Penn State football at all costs will win out in the end.
"When you hear the 'death penalty' you think it can't happen but with all things you just don't know what will happen," senior defensive tackle Jordan Hill said during the Lions' annual charity event, Lift for Life. "When that time comes, if it comes, then we'll worry about that. Right now our eyes are looking forward to what's coming up."
Not usually a Steven A Smith fan, but I appreciated this.
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8165936
Gatdamn these people are weird.
http://www.facebook.com/ISupportJoePaterno
Gatdamn these people are weird.
http://www.facebook.com/ISupportJoePaterno
I'm sure it's been said repeatedly, but it's so disturbing to know that our fanbase has this same potential. I mean, thanks for not raping and/or ignoring raping of kids, Coach. 'preciate it. :dunno:
Nah. Ours would be just as bad as Penn State because we also have a revered old coach who can do no wrong and is above scrutiny in the eyes of most tucks. Ours would be just as bad. I don't see too many others doing that.it's not the same here
if self was touching kids, ku fans would riot at the star for reporting it.
if self was touching kids, ku fans would riot at the star for reporting it.
if self was touching kids, ku fans would riot at the star for reporting it.
Or imagine what would happen at Nubb if something like this came out during the Osborne era.
if self was touching kids, ku fans would riot at the star for reporting it.
Or imagine what would happen at Nubb if something like this came out during the Osborne era.
The small towns of Nebraska would filter their best kids to Nubb to be molested.
Let's just hope the NCAA does the sensible thing here, which is nothing. Let the legal system handle legal matters. The NCAA should not be concerned with issues that give no competitive advantage.
Let's just hope the NCAA does the sensible thing here, which is nothing. Let the legal system handle legal matters. The NCAA should not be concerned with issues that give no competitive advantage.
trying to decide what does and does not give competitive advantage is not black and white.
The NCAA is probably hoping like hell that Penn State steps up and does some self-imposed sanctions and acknowledgment of how mumped up this is, so they can roll with that. PSU could come out and say that while these heinous sexual crimes by one individual are wholly unrelated to the football program, the incredibly poor handling of them are a result of football being the priority of the program for far too long, and as a result we're reducing scholarships by __, foregoing postseason, taking ourselves off TV for __ year(s), etc.
That'd probably appease everyone except the (legitimately and literally) butthurt victims, who will be suing the crap out of PSU.
Let's just hope the NCAA does the sensible thing here, which is nothing. Let the legal system handle legal matters. The NCAA should not be concerned with issues that give no competitive advantage.
The NCAA is probably hoping like hell that Penn State steps up and does some self-imposed sanctions and acknowledgment of how mumped up this is, so they can roll with that. PSU could come out and say that while these heinous sexual crimes by one individual are wholly unrelated to the football program, the incredibly poor handling of them are a result of football being the priority of the program for far too long, and as a result we're reducing scholarships by __, foregoing postseason, taking ourselves off TV for __ year(s), etc.
That'd probably appease everyone except the (legitimately and literally) butthurt victims, who will be suing the crap out of PSU.
The NCAA is probably hoping like hell that Penn State steps up and does some self-imposed sanctions and acknowledgment of how mumped up this is, so they can roll with that. PSU could come out and say that while these heinous sexual crimes by one individual are wholly unrelated to the football program, the incredibly poor handling of them are a result of football being the priority of the university for far too long, and as a result we're reducing scholarships by __, foregoing postseason, taking ourselves off TV for __ year(s), etc.
That'd probably appease everyone except the (legitimately and literally) butthurt victims, who will be suing the crap out of PSU.
Of course, you now the NCAA is sweating blood over this thing, because the "angle" they have to go after Penn State is extremely narrow. Based on what I've seen it rides on some very cryptic/open ended wording in the LOIC definitions.
Let's just hope the NCAA does the sensible thing here, which is nothing. Let the legal system handle legal matters. The NCAA should not be concerned with issues that give no competitive advantage.
trying to decide what does and does not give competitive advantage is not black and white.
This is very true, but I can't for the life of me figure out how Sandusky raping boys in the shower gave Penn State a competitive advantage. I don't think the coaches were using child rape as a selling point to recruits or anything.
Let's just hope the NCAA does the sensible thing here, which is nothing. Let the legal system handle legal matters. The NCAA should not be concerned with issues that give no competitive advantage.
trying to decide what does and does not give competitive advantage is not black and white.
This is very true, but I can't for the life of me figure out how Sandusky raping boys in the shower gave Penn State a competitive advantage. I don't think the coaches were using child rape as a selling point to recruits or anything.
Hiding that boys were being raped so that your recruiting doesn't suck is the angle to take here.
yeah, in hindsight people always wish they had/hadn't done something bad they just got caught doing/not doing.
Let's just hope the NCAA does the sensible thing here, which is nothing. Let the legal system handle legal matters. The NCAA should not be concerned with issues that give no competitive advantage.
trying to decide what does and does not give competitive advantage is not black and white.
This is very true, but I can't for the life of me figure out how Sandusky raping boys in the shower gave Penn State a competitive advantage. I don't think the coaches were using child rape as a selling point to recruits or anything.
Hiding that boys were being raped so that your recruiting doesn't suck is the angle to take here.
Or to keep a DC.
That said, unless other stuff comes out, the NCAA should just set out a statement saying they plan to let all this come out in court and that they hate child rape. 5 or 6 yrs later after the courts have cooled down, they can do this without national emotion hanging over them.
Let's just hope the NCAA does the sensible thing here, which is nothing. Let the legal system handle legal matters. The NCAA should not be concerned with issues that give no competitive advantage.
trying to decide what does and does not give competitive advantage is not black and white.
This is very true, but I can't for the life of me figure out how Sandusky raping boys in the shower gave Penn State a competitive advantage. I don't think the coaches were using child rape as a selling point to recruits or anything.
Hiding that boys were being raped so that your recruiting doesn't suck is the angle to take here.
Or to keep a DC.
That said, unless other stuff comes out, the NCAA should just set out a statement saying they plan to let all this come out in court and that they hate child rape. 5 or 6 yrs later after the courts have cooled down, they can do this without national emotion hanging over them.
The NCAA needs to wait until the legal system puts Curley and the other guys on trial. If they start to roll over on each other, who knows what else could come out?
The part about not disclosing this so it wouldn't hurt the image of the football program (putting it as a competitive DISadvantange) is what they'll go after (if they do so).
The problem is that the NCAA is in a no-win situation. Inaction is perceived as weakness, and whatever action taken sets dangerous precedent. No matter what sanctions the NCAA places on Penn State, anything short of the death penalty will be inadequate to a considerable number of people.
They'd be wise to say, "Look, we can't do anything until the criminal investigations are complete, so until all of this plays out, our hands are tied." In that span of time, the DOE or someone else may step in and do their job for them.
Until Spanier, Curley, and Schultz get on the stand and start ratting each other out, the full truth isn't even out there. Who knows what else they're going to find in those criminal investigations? Those guys lied and covered up all sorts of stuff. The Feds are going to get in there and tear it all apart, so let them do the dirty work and swoop in after several months, say you'll do your own investigation, and then just let Penn State negotiate their penalty with you. If you're extremely lucky, the DOE and lawsuits will obliterate them to the point where your job is easy, and you don't really have to do anything.
and next to it show rapes vs rapes reported in a timely manner.
and next to it show rapes vs rapes reported in a timely manner.
that would look like the KSU v. ku football score.
and next to it show rapes vs rapes reported in a timely manner.
that would look like the KSU v. ku football score.
It would be similar, but we rarely shut KU out.
and next to it show rapes vs rapes reported in a timely manner.
that would look like the KSU v. ku football score.
It would be similar, but we rarely shut KU out.
Not a shut out. I mean, he has a strong record at something like 14-1, but let's not get carried away.
and next to it show rapes vs rapes reported in a timely manner.
that would look like the KSU v. ku football score.
It would be similar, but we rarely shut KU out.
Not a shut out. I mean, he has a strong record at something like 14-1, but let's not get carried away.
Does it really count as reporting when you report it to your "superior" and then strong arm them into doing nothing about it, though?
yeah, in hindsight people always wish they had/hadn't done something bad they just got caught doing/not doing.
There was a GPC thread about a farmer who beat his daughter's rapist to death. That's how this should have concluded.
In hindsight.
Ashamed for Joe Paterno and Penn State’s leaders, but still proud of my school
By LaVar Arrington
The Jerry Sandusky scandal rose to another level with the release of information in the Freeh Report on Thursday that Joe Paterno was part of the group that attempted to cover up what happened.
I have been offering my opinion about this since the beginning and I won’t stop now. But I realize that no matter what I write I will offend someone. If I say anything positive about Penn State or Paterno, the public will condemn me, and Penn State will praise my efforts. If I condemn my alma mater, it will be the reverse.
So what am I to do? Making it a point to be a voice during this horrible time hasn’t been easy, but it has been necessary and therapeutic. Figuring out how to prevent this from happening again is where my head is now.
I can’t stress enough how much my heart goes out to the victims, named and unnamed. There almost certainly will be lawsuits, but I’m sure there’s no monetary value that can be placed on the devastation they suffered. The healing, restoration and well-being of the victims and their families continue to be the focus of my concern and prayers.
Now how do we move on from here?
I wish Paterno, former Penn State president Graham Spanier and others had better handled the situation when they first learned of it. Sure, public disclosure or firing Sandusky would have been embarrassing. The school would have taken a blow and the media would have teed off on what had been considered a squeaky clean school and football program, led by a man with a reputation for doing things the right way.
There would have been civil suits and tons of money paid out to the victims. Maybe some recruits would have chosen other schools. Boosters might have stopped donating and reputations would have been affected. That’s not what happened. As a result of official decisions, children continued to be victimized.
I can speak from the heart when I say nobody is more disappointed than Penn Staters about how this was handled and how it has made us look. It took wonderful people, year after year, to build the school’s reputation — not football players as much as students and professors.We are more than Paterno or any other single figure there. Our chant is “We are Penn State.” Not “he is” or “she is.” A big mistake would be making this all about loving or hating Paterno.
When I was being recruited by Penn State, coaches made a point to stress the values symbolized by having no names on jerseys, plain uniforms and a humble, hardworking approach in all that they did. Strive to be better. Set a positive example. Create the standard. My dad, a soldier, raised us that way and I knew that Penn State was where I wanted to be.
I believe that message is as clear now as ever and this will have to be the way the school’s reputation is rebuilt.
As for the statue of Paterno: Leave it up or take it down — it really doesn’t matter that much, in my opinion. Paterno’s legacy has been tarnished and there’s a good chance it always will be.
Both sides of this conflict would be better served turning their attention to fighting for better policies to protect kids. If you are a Penn State alum, student or employee, you are fighting to preserve the legacy that each and every one of us who attended the school stands for, which is excellence.
We had nothing to do with this mess, but we accept the judgements about Paterno and whatever is required for the victims and their families to move forward.
Our goal is to show the highest possible level of support and remorse for what happened to those kids and their families and, along the way, work to restore what we’ve all been a part of building all these years — Penn State’s reputation.
I’m still Penn State proud. I will be accused of being biased, and and I wouldn’t disagree, but I’m not blinded by the pride I hold for the school I attended.
In my heart I know that supporting the victims and my college is the right thing for me to do. It says in the Bible to let he with no faults cast the first stone.
I’m comfortable knowing that too many great people have come from Penn State to ever think the actions of a few define all of us.
and next to it show rapes vs rapes reported in a timely manner.
that would look like the KSU v. ku football score.
It would be similar, but we rarely shut KU out.
Not a shut out. I mean, he has a strong record at something like 14-1, but let's not get carried away.
Does it really count as reporting when you report it to your "superior" and then strong arm them into doing nothing about it, though?
I would be fine with a 15-0*
Fair enough. I mean, we wouldn't be putting together the final number for the mural. Surely that number will get more realistic btwn now and then.
NEW YORK - The president of the NCAA says he isn't ruling out the possibility of shutting down the Penn State football program in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal.
In a PBS interview Monday night, NCAA President Mark Emmert said he doesn't want to "take anything off the table" if the NCAA determines penalties against Penn State are warranted.
Emmert said he's "never seen anything as egregious as this in terms of just overall conduct and behavior inside a university." He added, "What the appropriate penalties are, if there are determinations of violations, we'll have to decide."
The last time the NCAA shut down a football program with the so-called "death penalty" was in the 1980s, when SMU was forced to drop the sport because of extra benefits violations.
Welp
http://www.startribune.com/sports/162711896.html (http://www.startribune.com/sports/162711896.html)QuoteNEW YORK - The president of the NCAA says he isn't ruling out the possibility of shutting down the Penn State football program in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal.
In a PBS interview Monday night, NCAA President Mark Emmert said he doesn't want to "take anything off the table" if the NCAA determines penalties against Penn State are warranted.
Emmert said he's "never seen anything as egregious as this in terms of just overall conduct and behavior inside a university." He added, "What the appropriate penalties are, if there are determinations of violations, we'll have to decide."
The last time the NCAA shut down a football program with the so-called "death penalty" was in the 1980s, when SMU was forced to drop the sport because of extra benefits violations.
Welp
http://www.startribune.com/sports/162711896.html (http://www.startribune.com/sports/162711896.html)QuoteNEW YORK - The president of the NCAA says he isn't ruling out the possibility of shutting down the Penn State football program in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal.
In a PBS interview Monday night, NCAA President Mark Emmert said he doesn't want to "take anything off the table" if the NCAA determines penalties against Penn State are warranted.
Emmert said he's "never seen anything as egregious as this in terms of just overall conduct and behavior inside a university." He added, "What the appropriate penalties are, if there are determinations of violations, we'll have to decide."
The last time the NCAA shut down a football program with the so-called "death penalty" was in the 1980s, when SMU was forced to drop the sport because of extra benefits violations.
Twitter will be amazing.
"What the appropriate penalties are, if there are determinations of violations, we'll have to decide."
I'm heading to Happy Valley this weekend. My Penn State trips always have the worst timing.
Welp
http://www.startribune.com/sports/162711896.html (http://www.startribune.com/sports/162711896.html)QuoteNEW YORK - The president of the NCAA says he isn't ruling out the possibility of shutting down the Penn State football program in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal.
In a PBS interview Monday night, NCAA President Mark Emmert said he doesn't want to "take anything off the table" if the NCAA determines penalties against Penn State are warranted.
Emmert said he's "never seen anything as egregious as this in terms of just overall conduct and behavior inside a university." He added, "What the appropriate penalties are, if there are determinations of violations, we'll have to decide."
The last time the NCAA shut down a football program with the so-called "death penalty" was in the 1980s, when SMU was forced to drop the sport because of extra benefits violations.
Twitter will be amazing.
I'm heading to Happy Valley this weekend. My Penn State trips always have the worst timing.
I'm heading to Happy Valley this weekend. My Penn State trips always have the worst timing.
You'll have that pak head made by then, right?
I'm heading to Happy Valley this weekend. My Penn State trips always have the worst timing.
You'll have that pak head made by then, right?
It's getting made right now! Should have it by Saturday.
I'm heading to Happy Valley this weekend. My Penn State trips always have the worst timing.
You'll have that pak head made by then, right?
It's getting made right now! Should have it by Saturday.
Looking forward to monday's pic of you and the giant pak head combofanning in front of the Joe Pa statue.
Welp
http://www.startribune.com/sports/162711896.html (http://www.startribune.com/sports/162711896.html)QuoteNEW YORK - The president of the NCAA says he isn't ruling out the possibility of shutting down the Penn State football program in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal.
In a PBS interview Monday night, NCAA President Mark Emmert said he doesn't want to "take anything off the table" if the NCAA determines penalties against Penn State are warranted.
Emmert said he's "never seen anything as egregious as this in terms of just overall conduct and behavior inside a university." He added, "What the appropriate penalties are, if there are determinations of violations, we'll have to decide."
The last time the NCAA shut down a football program with the so-called "death penalty" was in the 1980s, when SMU was forced to drop the sport because of extra benefits violations.
I'm heading to Happy Valley this weekend. My Penn State trips always have the worst timing.
You'll have that pak head made by then, right?
It's getting made right now! Should have it by Saturday.
Looking forward to monday's pic of you and the giant pak head combofanning in front of the Joe Pa statue.
I'm going to wear that Penn State hat with the BJ while doing it.
If Pen State Football does fold, I wonder if they will put the football stadium up for auction.
If Pen State Football does fold, I wonder if they will put the football stadium up for auction.
Speaking of the stadium, does anybody else find the name Beaver Stadium awesomely ironic given all the gay sex going on up there?
If Pen State Football does fold, I wonder if they will put the football stadium up for auction.
Speaking of the stadium, does anybody else find the name Beaver Stadium awesomely ironic given all the gay sex going on up there?
Welp
http://www.startribune.com/sports/162711896.html (http://www.startribune.com/sports/162711896.html)QuoteNEW YORK - The president of the NCAA says he isn't ruling out the possibility of shutting down the Penn State football program in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal.
In a PBS interview Monday night, NCAA President Mark Emmert said he doesn't want to "take anything off the table" if the NCAA determines penalties against Penn State are warranted.
Emmert said he's "never seen anything as egregious as this in terms of just overall conduct and behavior inside a university." He added, "What the appropriate penalties are, if there are determinations of violations, we'll have to decide."
The last time the NCAA shut down a football program with the so-called "death penalty" was in the 1980s, when SMU was forced to drop the sport because of extra benefits violations.
Twitter will be amazing.
When asked if Penn State should remove the statue of Paterno outside of Beaver Stadium, Monaghan said he’d need more time to decide. (Despite Nike co-founder and chairman Phil Knight’s passionate defense of Paterno at his memorial service, Nike announced that the child-development center at its corporate headquarters would no longer be named for Paterno). At least one former player thinks the statue should stay. “To say he was covering it up is, I think, crazy,” says former Penn State tight end Mickey Shuler, who played in the NFL for 14 seasons, from 1978-1991, for the Jets and the Eagles. “I don’t believe that the football program has any [reason] to be feeling that they didn’t do what they were supposed to do. I think that as time shows itself, you’ll see that coach Paterno probably handled this thing as best he could with the information he was given. He’s not a police officer, he’s not a D.A., he’s not any of those things. But I’m sure he cooperated and wanted the truth. And he’s the only one who has said so far, ‘I would step down from my job,’ and ‘I wish I could have done more.’ I haven’t heard anyone else say that.”
Read more: http://keepingscore.blogs.time.com/2012/07/13/every-day-was-a-mistake-how-should-penn-state-deal-with-joe-paterno-2/#ixzz20tjIlE9m
Welp
http://www.startribune.com/sports/162711896.html (http://www.startribune.com/sports/162711896.html)QuoteNEW YORK - The president of the NCAA says he isn't ruling out the possibility of shutting down the Penn State football program in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal.
In a PBS interview Monday night, NCAA President Mark Emmert said he doesn't want to "take anything off the table" if the NCAA determines penalties against Penn State are warranted.
Emmert said he's "never seen anything as egregious as this in terms of just overall conduct and behavior inside a university." He added, "What the appropriate penalties are, if there are determinations of violations, we'll have to decide."
The last time the NCAA shut down a football program with the so-called "death penalty" was in the 1980s, when SMU was forced to drop the sport because of extra benefits violations.
Twitter will be amazing.
LMAO if they let PSU off the hook when they gave SMU the death penalty for "extra benefits violations". How can you look at the two next to each other and not think PSU football needs to be shut down for a period of time?
Welp
http://www.startribune.com/sports/162711896.html (http://www.startribune.com/sports/162711896.html)QuoteNEW YORK - The president of the NCAA says he isn't ruling out the possibility of shutting down the Penn State football program in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal.
In a PBS interview Monday night, NCAA President Mark Emmert said he doesn't want to "take anything off the table" if the NCAA determines penalties against Penn State are warranted.
Emmert said he's "never seen anything as egregious as this in terms of just overall conduct and behavior inside a university." He added, "What the appropriate penalties are, if there are determinations of violations, we'll have to decide."
The last time the NCAA shut down a football program with the so-called "death penalty" was in the 1980s, when SMU was forced to drop the sport because of extra benefits violations.
Twitter will be amazing.
LMAO if they let PSU off the hook when they gave SMU the death penalty for "extra benefits violations". How can you look at the two next to each other and not think PSU football needs to be shut down for a period of time?
why only psu football?? It was the AD and Senior Vice President for Finance and Business involved too. Shut the whole school down while we're at it.
But if Joe isn't a police officer or a D.A., why not turn it over to a police officer or a D.A.? If my roof is sagging I don't shrug and say "I'm not an engineer" and wait for it to collapse, I rough ridin' call one.
If Pen State Football does fold, I wonder if they will put the football stadium up for auction.
Speaking of the stadium, does anybody else find the name Beaver Stadium awesomely ironic given all the gay sex going on up there?
But if Joe isn't a police officer or a D.A., why not turn it over to a police officer or a D.A.? If my roof is sagging I don't shrug and say "I'm not an engineer" and wait for it to collapse, I rough ridin' call one.
Exactly. What if Joe had been informed that his own child had been to one of Jerry's tickle parties? Guess he'd tell Sue they're not calling the cops, cause he's not a detective after all.
“Joe Paterno is a friend. I got to know him professionally. You can’t take away the greatness of this man. He was a great man. And however you analyze this, you can’t erase all that this guy has done. You can’t do that. Nobody can do that.”
Pinkel said, “I don’t read a lot about it, but there’s certainly lessons to be learned by everybody.”
Those apparently more informed, like NCAA president Mark Emmert and SEC commissioner Mike Slive, expressed little public sympathy.
“I’m sure he would maybe, if he did it over again, he’d follow up a few things,” Pinkel said. “But don’t take away all this guy did, and sit around blaming him for all this.”
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/07/17/3710036/pinkel-speaks-of-paterno-greatness.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2012/07/17/3710036/pinkel-speaks-of-paterno-greatness.html)Quote“Joe Paterno is a friend. I got to know him professionally. You can’t take away the greatness of this man. He was a great man. And however you analyze this, you can’t erase all that this guy has done. You can’t do that. Nobody can do that.”QuotePinkel said, “I don’t read a lot about it, but there’s certainly lessons to be learned by everybody.”
Those apparently more informed, like NCAA president Mark Emmert and SEC commissioner Mike Slive, expressed little public sympathy.Quote“I’m sure he would maybe, if he did it over again, he’d follow up a few things,” Pinkel said. “But don’t take away all this guy did, and sit around blaming him for all this.”
i'm finding it difficult to reconcile this blathering of colossal stupidity. it makes me so angry. i believe in diligently seeking out the truth in every situation, especially when the powerful abuse the defenseless. i don't understand blind and willful allegiance. i never will. particularly when something as documented, concrete and damning as the Freeh report is readily available. human beings are much too frail and flawed to believe in unconditionally.
Have any enrollment numbers been released for Penn State this year? It's going to be interesting to see just how big the drop off is.
Have any enrollment numbers been released for Penn State this year? It's going to be interesting to see just how big the drop off is.
I'd guess enrollment will be just fine. maybe a slight drop?
Welp Penn State students are now camping out at the statue.
Can't wait to be there on Saturday. Everyone has gone crazy.
Welp Penn State students are now camping out at the statue.
Can't wait to be there on Saturday. Everyone has gone crazy.
Welp Penn State students are now camping out at the statue.
Can't wait to be there on Saturday. Everyone has gone crazy.
Welp Penn State students are now camping out at the statue.
Can't wait to be there on Saturday. Everyone has gone crazy.
You need to Skype the riot when they come to cut it down.
My super MU insider buddy just told me that Pinkel has privately said that if the statue is taken down he will take it and put it up at his house.
OMFG, a coworker told me to look on Deadspin. In this case, they should definitely leave the statue up.
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The statue has to come down for this reason. How many people will pose with that thing and do something mumped? a lot.
The statue has to come down for this reason. How many people will pose with that thing and do something mumped? a lot.
Any specific requests?
The statue has to come down for this reason. How many people will pose with that thing and do something mumped? a lot.
Any specific requests?
Towel around waste, shower cap on
The statue has to come down for this reason. How many people will pose with that thing and do something mumped? a lot.
Any specific requests?
The statue has to come down for this reason. How many people will pose with that thing and do something mumped? a lot.
Any specific requests?
The statue has to come down for this reason. How many people will pose with that thing and do something mumped? a lot.
Any specific requests?
Towel around waste, shower cap on
Even if it's EMAWgeddon doing the pose?
The statue has to come down for this reason. How many people will pose with that thing and do something mumped? a lot.
Any specific requests?
Towel around waste, shower cap on
Even if it's EMAWgeddon doing the pose?
Sure, why not
The statue has to come down for this reason. How many people will pose with that thing and do something mumped? a lot.
Any specific requests?
Towel around waste, shower cap on
The statue has to come down for this reason. How many people will pose with that thing and do something mumped? a lot.
Any specific requests?
Towel around waste, shower cap on
I would do this.
Over/under on creepy gopo sigs I end up in?
The statue has to come down for this reason. How many people will pose with that thing and do something mumped? a lot.
Any specific requests?
Towel around waste, shower cap on
I would do this.
Over/under on creepy gopo sigs I end up in?
The statue has to come down for this reason. How many people will pose with that thing and do something mumped? a lot.
Any specific requests?
Towel around waste, shower cap on
I would do this.
Over/under on creepy gopo sigs I end up in?
The statue has to come down for this reason. How many people will pose with that thing and do something mumped? a lot.
Any specific requests?
Towel around waste, shower cap on
I would do this.
Over/under on creepy gopo sigs I end up in?
The statue has to come down for this reason. How many people will pose with that thing and do something mumped? a lot.
Any specific requests?
Towel around waste, shower cap on
I would do this.
Over/under on creepy gopo sigs I end up in?
they won't give you the time of day unless you wear powercat pasties.
Are there pakhead pasties in the goEMAW store?
Posted: Yesterday 11:57 AM
RE: Airplane flying over Beaver Stadium
Psu96 wrote: FWIW, the same banner is being flown over State College again today. RAINN or any similar organization could have really benefitted from the money being wasted on hauling that banner around.
Yes, what an absolute shame. He's not much better than Sandusky. Let's waste a ton of money we could have donated to this cause over a hunk of bronze. Unreal.
I just can't stand that everyone wants to claim to do right for the victims when its all b.s. Just curious the victims from the trial are all 18-28 right? They're not boys anymore. They can speak for themselves.
QuoteI just can't stand that everyone wants to claim to do right for the victims when its all b.s. Just curious the victims from the trial are all 18-28 right? They're not boys anymore. They can speak for themselves.
:sdeek:
BonnieBernstein
Source: Penn State Board of Trustees voted on a conference call last night to take down Joe Paterno statue. Will happen this wknd.
QuoteBonnieBernstein
Source: Penn State Board of Trustees voted on a conference call last night to take down Joe Paterno statue. Will happen this wknd.
As if the statue really rough ridin' matters. :jerk:
QuoteBonnieBernstein
Source: Penn State Board of Trustees voted on a conference call last night to take down Joe Paterno statue. Will happen this wknd.
As if the statue really rough ridin' matters. :jerk:
QuoteBonnieBernstein
Source: Penn State Board of Trustees voted on a conference call last night to take down Joe Paterno statue. Will happen this wknd.
As if the statue really rough ridin' matters. :jerk:
QuoteBonnieBernstein
Source: Penn State Board of Trustees voted on a conference call last night to take down Joe Paterno statue. Will happen this wknd.
As if the statue really rough ridin' matters. :jerk:
Welp. There goes my pic. At least the pakhead will be there front and center on Saturday.
Going to get all juiced up on 151 long islands at cafe 210 at lunch and then be there for the show :party:
QuoteBonnieBernstein
Source: Penn State Board of Trustees voted on a conference call last night to take down Joe Paterno statue. Will happen this wknd.
As if the statue really rough ridin' matters. :jerk:
Welp. There goes my pic. At least the pakhead will be there front and center on Saturday.
Going to get all juiced up on 151 long islands at cafe 210 at lunch and then be there for the show :party:
Maybe pull a "Pete" and commandeer the bobcat or whatever they're using to take the statue down and roll around campus with the pakhead hanging out the side?
QuoteBonnieBernstein
Source: Penn State Board of Trustees voted on a conference call last night to take down Joe Paterno statue. Will happen this wknd.
As if the statue really rough ridin' matters. :jerk:
Welp. There goes my pic. At least the pakhead will be there front and center on Saturday.
Going to get all juiced up on 151 long islands at cafe 210 at lunch and then be there for the show :party:
QuoteBonnieBernstein
Source: Penn State Board of Trustees voted on a conference call last night to take down Joe Paterno statue. Will happen this wknd.
As if the statue really rough ridin' matters. :jerk:
Welp. There goes my pic. At least the pakhead will be there front and center on Saturday.
Going to get all juiced up on 151 long islands at cafe 210 at lunch and then be there for the show :party:
Maybe pull a "Pete" and commandeer the bobcat or whatever they're using to take the statue down and roll around campus with the pakhead hanging out the side?
Wait a minute. . . Pete is Charles Melton?
This is going to be a fantastic crap-show and EMAWgeddon will be right there. :eye:
This is going to be a fantastic crap-show and EMAWgeddon will be right there. :eye:
I am so rough ridin' jealous I can't stand it.
EMAWgeddon, you have a very rare opportunity here...something special that rarely occurs. Do not disappoint us. Godspeed.
This is going to be a fantastic crap-show and EMAWgeddon will be right there. :eye:
I am so rough ridin' jealous I can't stand it.
EMAWgeddon, you have a very rare opportunity here...something special that rarely occurs. Do not disappoint us. Godspeed.
I'm going to be in the middle of a Penn State reunion that I was only tangentially invited to with most people I have never met before.
This is probably how I end up single again.
This is going to be a fantastic crap-show and EMAWgeddon will be right there. :eye:
I am so rough ridin' jealous I can't stand it.
EMAWgeddon, you have a very rare opportunity here...something special that rarely occurs. Do not disappoint us. Godspeed.
I'm going to be in the middle of a Penn State reunion that I was only tangentially invited to with most people I have never met before.
This is probably how I end up single again.
You know what the right thing to do is...
This is going to be a fantastic crap-show and EMAWgeddon will be right there. :eye:
I am so rough ridin' jealous I can't stand it.
EMAWgeddon, you have a very rare opportunity here...something special that rarely occurs. Do not disappoint us. Godspeed.
I'm going to be in the middle of a Penn State reunion that I was only tangentially invited to with most people I have never met before.
This is probably how I end up single again.
This is going to be a fantastic crap-show and EMAWgeddon will be right there. :eye:
I am so rough ridin' jealous I can't stand it.
EMAWgeddon, you have a very rare opportunity here...something special that rarely occurs. Do not disappoint us. Godspeed.
I'm going to be in the middle of a Penn State reunion that I was only tangentially invited to with most people I have never met before.
This is probably how I end up single again.
Are you building in an excuse to not attend what will obviously be a pivotal moment in pedo state history?
tell this guy that, for his own good, he will want to witness first hand the pedo mexican standoff that is inevitable. I mean, you know this is coming and circumstances have delivered you to the exact town it is happening in, on the weekend it is going down. I mean, if you were in Kittyhawk NC on December 17, 1903 would you go to the mall? Bad analogy but my point remains.
This is going to be a fantastic crap-show and EMAWgeddon will be right there. :eye:
I am so rough ridin' jealous I can't stand it.
EMAWgeddon, you have a very rare opportunity here...something special that rarely occurs. Do not disappoint us. Godspeed.
I'm going to be in the middle of a Penn State reunion that I was only tangentially invited to with most people I have never met before.
This is probably how I end up single again.
You know what the right thing to do is...
That's not going to stop me. Going to be a weird car ride back.
I saw a report that a group of students is camping out to protect the Joe statue. Just so we're clear, there is a group of people whose thought process consists of:
Protecting a statue of a pedophile enabler: Yes!!
Protecting children: No!!
Bulldoze the statue and their entire stadium. JFC.
I saw a report that a group of students is camping out to protect the Joe statue. Just so we're clear, there is a group of people whose thought process consists of:
Protecting a statue of a pedophile enabler: Yes!!
Protecting children: No!!
Bulldoze the statue and their entire stadium. JFC.
loving paterno doesn't equal loving child rape
'geddon, OK_Cat will be the one there in his Dylan Meier jersey and his replica Paterno tribute coke-bottle glasses.
I saw a report that a group of students is camping out to protect the Joe statue. Just so we're clear, there is a group of people whose thought process consists of:
Protecting a statue of a pedophile enabler: Yes!!
Protecting children: No!!
Bulldoze the statue and their entire stadium. JFC.
loving paterno doesn't equal loving child rape
I saw a report that a group of students is camping out to protect the Joe statue. Just so we're clear, there is a group of people whose thought process consists of:
Protecting a statue of a pedophile enabler: Yes!!
Protecting children: No!!
Bulldoze the statue and their entire stadium. JFC.
loving paterno doesn't equal loving child rape
no, it equals not minding it.
I saw a report that a group of students is camping out to protect the Joe statue. Just so we're clear, there is a group of people whose thought process consists of:
Protecting a statue of a pedophile enabler: Yes!!
Protecting children: No!!
Bulldoze the statue and their entire stadium. JFC.
loving paterno doesn't equal loving child rape
no, it equals not minding it.
no it doesn't. you can like someone and still hate what they did/didn't do. mob mentality is lol
not trolling. penn state fans can still love the crap out of joepa and hate the fact that he did nothing to stop child rape.
Do you love Venzy?
Do you love Venzy?
not trolling. penn state fans can still love the crap out of joepa and hate the fact that he did nothing to stop child rape.
sure, we can often love good people who do bad things. Probably depends on what the bad thing is, though. I mean, are we talking about tax fraud or, ya know, kid rape?
Can Penn State fans still love Sandusky as a coach, but hate his tickle parties?
not trolling. penn state fans can still love the crap out of joepa and hate the fact that he did nothing to stop child rape.
sure, we can often love good people who do bad things. Probably depends on what the bad thing is, though. I mean, are we talking about tax fraud or, ya know, kid rape?
Can Penn State fans still love Sandusky as a coach, but hate his tickle parties?
i'm sure someone in his family (his wife?) might still love him and remember good times that didn't involve child rape, but hate the fact that he raped children. :dunno:
not trolling. penn state fans can still love the crap out of joepa and hate the fact that he did nothing to stop child rape.
sure, we can often love good people who do bad things. Probably depends on what the bad thing is, though. I mean, are we talking about tax fraud or, ya know, kid rape?
Can Penn State fans still love Sandusky as a coach, but hate his tickle parties?
i'm sure someone in his family (his wife?) might still love him and remember good times that didn't involve child rape, but hate the fact that he raped children. :dunno:
But it makes her a huge moron. so, I was right. Yay, LSOC wins again. Chalk it up on the bog board. Feels good. :gocho:
not trolling. penn state fans can still love the crap out of joepa and hate the fact that he did nothing to stop child rape.
sure, we can often love good people who do bad things. Probably depends on what the bad thing is, though. I mean, are we talking about tax fraud or, ya know, kid rape?
Can Penn State fans still love Sandusky as a coach, but hate his tickle parties?
i'm sure someone in his family (his wife?) might still love him and remember good times that didn't involve child rape, but hate the fact that he raped children. :dunno:
But it makes her a huge moron. so, I was right. Yay, LSOC wins again. Chalk it up on the bog board. Feels good. :gocho:
she isn't a moron for loving her husband and hating that he raped kids. she'd be a moron if she loved her husband and stood by his side defending him (which she might, i dunno)
How awful would it feel that you couldn't turn on your husband so he turned to defenseless boys? Pretty awful I bet. As far as I'm concerned this was all her fault.
The league's response is equally notable for the part of the Chronicle scoop that it didn't refute, the one that claimed Big Ten presidents are currently debating whether to allow Penn State to remain in the conference at all in the wake of the devastating Jerry Sandusky sex scandal. PSU is already facing crippling judgments from the NCAA and the Department of Education for its negligent response to allegations Sandusky was abusing children in the Nittany Lion locker room, including the possibility that the football program will be shut down under the "death penalty." Current language in the 2011-12 Big Ten handbook requires any member that fails to show complete and accurate information during an investigation to "show cause why its membership in the conference should not be suspended or terminated." At the final stage, expulsion would require a vote of at least 70 percent, or eight of twelve member schools.
They took it down, no riots? Obviously Pen State fans are just bandwagon fans.
NCAA handing down unprecedented penalties tomorrow.
a fate worse than death? :sdeek:
a fate worse than death? :sdeek:
I don't get the connection. I understand the lawsuits that will come from the victims. I don't understand taking away scholarships or punishing a team that has no connection to the tragedy. Now that joe's dead who are you punishing? The fans? The alumni? The current players?
I don't get the connection. I understand the lawsuits that will come from the victims. I don't understand taking away scholarships or punishing a team that has no connection to the tragedy. Now that joe's dead who are you punishing? The fans? The alumni? The current players?
The AD that perpetuated child rape. For a start
I don't get the connection. I understand the lawsuits that will come from the victims. I don't understand taking away scholarships or punishing a team that has no connection to the tragedy. Now that joe's dead who are you punishing? The fans? The alumni? The current players?
The AD that perpetuated child rape. For a start
yeah, but those guys are all long gone (fired/dead/in jail)
absolutely. but this isn't a recruiting violation. I don't know that the NCAA has actual authority over this matter.
absolutely. but this isn't a recruiting violation. I don't know that the NCAA has actual authority over this matter.
NCAA has more jurisdiction than just recruiting.
so basically it will be the death penalty but without shutting down the program. Penn state fans are going to be great entertainment over this
I don't get the connection. I understand the lawsuits that will come from the victims. I don't understand taking away scholarships or punishing a team that has no connection to the tragedy. Now that joe's dead who are you punishing? The fans? The alumni? The current players?
The AD that perpetuated child rape. For a start
yeah, but those guys are all long gone (fired/dead/in jail)
I don't get the connection. I understand the lawsuits that will come from the victims. I don't understand taking away scholarships or punishing a team that has no connection to the tragedy. Now that joe's dead who are you punishing? The fans? The alumni? The current players?
The AD that perpetuated child rape. For a start
Too harsh and let the "why do we need the NCAA" debate heat up even more.
Harsh penalties with no way to do anything against those that perpetrated the acts. No alliance with the NFL to punish goes who try and jump because no one is jumping, no show case because the coach is dead and no one hire the former AD anyway.
So what's left? Vindictiveness against the school and the people that are left.
I don't get the connection. I understand the lawsuits that will come from the victims. I don't understand taking away scholarships or punishing a team that has no connection to the tragedy. Now that joe's dead who are you punishing? The fans? The alumni? The current players?
Too harsh and let the "why do we need the NCAA" debate heat up even more.
Harsh penalties with no way to do anything against those that perpetrated the acts. No alliance with the NFL to punish goes who try and jump because no one is jumping, no show case because the coach is dead and no one hire the former AD anyway.
So what's left? Vindictiveness against the school and the people that are left.
I don't get the connection. I understand the lawsuits that will come from the victims. I don't understand taking away scholarships or punishing a team that has no connection to the tragedy. Now that joe's dead who are you punishing? The fans? The alumni? The current players?
I don't know that I agree with it, but the idea is probably that the culture at Penn State of football taking priority over everything (academics, ass rape, etc.) is the root of why this wasn't reported long ago, so destroy the culture.
I don't get the connection. I understand the lawsuits that will come from the victims. I don't understand taking away scholarships or punishing a team that has no connection to the tragedy. Now that joe's dead who are you punishing? The fans? The alumni? The current players?
I don't know that I agree with it, but the idea is probably that the culture at Penn State of football taking priority over everything (academics, ass rape, etc.) is the root of why this wasn't reported long ago, so destroy the culture.
I don't get the connection. I understand the lawsuits that will come from the victims. I don't understand taking away scholarships or punishing a team that has no connection to the tragedy. Now that joe's dead who are you punishing? The fans? The alumni? The current players?
I don't know that I agree with it, but the idea is probably that the culture at Penn State of football taking priority over everything (academics, ass rape, etc.) is the root of why this wasn't reported long ago, so destroy the culture.
I don't get the connection. I understand the lawsuits that will come from the victims. I don't understand taking away scholarships or punishing a team that has no connection to the tragedy. Now that joe's dead who are you punishing? The fans? The alumni? The current players?
I don't know that I agree with it, but the idea is probably that the culture at Penn State of football taking priority over everything (academics, ass rape, etc.) is the root of why this wasn't reported long ago, so destroy the culture.
Exactly. And I agree with it 100%. Innocent people get "punished" by being associated with organizations and cultures doing bad things all the time. Not playing football for a year or two in a random town in Pennsylvania isn't exactly a serious "punishment" when you really think about what happened.
i hope they rape penn state's children.
I don't get the connection. I understand the lawsuits that will come from the victims. I don't understand taking away scholarships or punishing a team that has no connection to the tragedy. Now that joe's dead who are you punishing? The fans? The alumni? The current players?
I don't know that I agree with it, but the idea is probably that the culture at Penn State of football taking priority over everything (academics, ass rape, etc.) is the root of why this wasn't reported long ago, so destroy the culture.
Exactly. And I agree with it 100%. Innocent people get "punished" by being associated with organizations and cultures doing bad things all the time. Not playing football for a year or two in a random town in Pennsylvania isn't exactly a serious "punishment" when you really think about what happened.
I think 2 weeks ago I was against it, but the righteous indignation expressed by everyone and anyone associated with Penn State especially since the Report came out is quickly swaying me in favor.
Yup. No contrition, just attacked Freeh and claimed everyone was lying except their guys.
Some of them (I think Paterno family) went as far as to claim "lots of people have seen Jerry shower and saw nothing" as if he would forcibly sodomize a 10 year old boy in front of them were he actually.
The NCAA will have plenty of support here. The anti-NCAA types won't have a platform.
Yup. No contrition, just attacked Freeh and claimed everyone was lying except their guys.
Some of them (I think Paterno family) went as far as to claim "lots of people have seen Jerry shower and saw nothing" as if he would forcibly sodomize a 10 year old boy in front of them were he actually.
The NCAA will have plenty of support here. The anti-NCAA types won't have a platform.
The amusing part will be when Emmert grants the players the ability to transfer without penalty....thinking they'll all leave....and those brainwashed fuckers all stay. I predict this happening.
They should still play, but ban fans and tv. Total blackout
Every win would be pretty disgusting.
I think the statue coming down is a bit of foreshadowing by PSU brass. They know the hammer is coming.
What if they make joe pa vacate wins? No longer the winningist coach
What if they make joe pa vacate wins? No longer the winningist coach
I kinda hope that they don't. I want everyone to remember Joe Paterno for a long, long time.
when you lose "10 scholarships a year" does that mean you only have 15 to give out per year? or just playing with 75 scholarship players instead of 85?
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/22/report-psu-sanctions-include-multi-year-bowl-ban-crippling-scholarship-losses/
when you lose "10 scholarships a year" does that mean you only have 15 to give out per year? or just playing with 75 scholarship players instead of 85?
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/22/report-psu-sanctions-include-multi-year-bowl-ban-crippling-scholarship-losses/
I believe that they mean that instead of 25 per year to give to new players, you only have 10 per year to give to new players. Does not involve taking current players scholarships away.
Stroll over to this hell hole and take a look around.. http://bwi.rivals.com/forum.asp?fid=36
If you can read more than a handful of threads and still remain unwilling to burn their entire program to the ground, you are not like me.
Stroll over to this hell hole and take a look around.. http://bwi.rivals.com/forum.asp?fid=36
If you can read more than a handful of threads and still remain unwilling to burn their entire program to the ground, you are not like me.
The Mob Cried Out "Crucify Him!"
And the President of Penn State acquiesced....
the football program and the criminal event of Jerry Sandusky are completely separate events. I see no connection.
Will be interesting if this thread gets traction. http://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&mid=156460499&sid=890&tid=156460499&style=1
Basically saying that if we can't win, then let's not even play football anymore. Wow. They sound like the old ladies who lost their seats in Allen field house when Lew upped the ante on seat donations.
Why give all the haters in the world any opportunity to laugh at how poor the fb team will become because of sanctions.
Stroll over to this hell hole and take a look around.. http://bwi.rivals.com/forum.asp?fid=36
If you can read more than a handful of threads and still remain unwilling to burn their entire program to the ground, you are not like me.
Yeah, officially #TeamFuckEm. The so-called innocent Penn State'rs deserve to lose it all. Anyone whose lives revolve around a college football team that much should be deported regardless of any of the Sandusky stuff.
eff, a lot of us here were/are all for burning down KSU basketball simply because Currie ran off Frank and hired Weber.
Stroll over to this hell hole and take a look around.. http://bwi.rivals.com/forum.asp?fid=36
If you can read more than a handful of threads and still remain unwilling to burn their entire program to the ground, you are not like me.
Yeah, officially #TeamFuckEm. The so-called innocent Penn State'rs deserve to lose it all. Anyone whose lives revolve around a college football team that much should be deported regardless of any of the Sandusky stuff.
eff, a lot of us here were/are all for burning down KSU basketball simply because Currie ran off Frank and hired Weber.
I am going to take great pleasure in watching tomorrow's news conference after reading what they're saying over there. :dubious:
Reading that board gave me the same feeling I get when I stray over to the GPC World Forum. :sdeek:
Why the eff hasn't the Paterno family hired a PR director? Actually, the entire Penn State fanbase needs one. It is crazy how dumb they look right now. Crazy.
All I know is I can't wait for the 30 for 30. Man.
Take this FWIW, but a dude just called into the National show that is on 610 right now saying he has a friend @ the NCAA...this is what he says is coming (I may have forgotten a thing or 2, but here is the jist)
3 years, the NCAA runs the entire Athletic Department
2013, No Football Team
2012, all revenues from FB home games will go to visiting teams to make up for lost revenue on 2013 away dates
All wins after 1998 will be vacated
Loss of scholarships (can't remember the # the guy said, I think it was 10, for a LONG period of time) & no TV for a time after they return
When the program is reinstated in 2014, they will have the option to play 1 season as a Division II school
All players can transfer w/o sitting out effective immediately.
Again, take it FWIW
Edit - there was also (obv) a post season ban for a number of years
Take this FWIW, but a dude just called into the National show that is on 610 right now saying he has a friend @ the NCAA...this is what he says is coming (I may have forgotten a thing or 2, but here is the jist)
3 years, the NCAA runs the entire Athletic Department
2013, No Football Team
2012, all revenues from FB home games will go to visiting teams to make up for lost revenue on 2013 away dates
All wins after 1998 will be vacated
Loss of scholarships (can't remember the # the guy said, I think it was 10, for a LONG period of time) & no TV for a time after they return
When the program is reinstated in 2014, they will have the option to play 1 season as a Division II school
All players can transfer w/o sitting out effective immediately.
Again, take it FWIW
Edit - there was also (obv) a post season ban for a number of years
Take this FWIW, but a dude just called into the National show that is on 610 right now saying he has a friend @ the NCAA...this is what he says is coming (I may have forgotten a thing or 2, but here is the jist)
3 years, the NCAA runs the entire Athletic Department
2013, No Football Team
2012, all revenues from FB home games will go to visiting teams to make up for lost revenue on 2013 away dates
All wins after 1998 will be vacated
Loss of scholarships (can't remember the # the guy said, I think it was 10, for a LONG period of time) & no TV for a time after they return
When the program is reinstated in 2014, they will have the option to play 1 season as a Division II school
All players can transfer w/o sitting out effective immediately.
Again, take it FWIW
Edit - there was also (obv) a post season ban for a number of years
That cannot be right. Everyone is saying there is not DP in the mix.
Take this FWIW, but a dude just called into the National show that is on 610 right now saying he has a friend @ the NCAA...this is what he says is coming (I may have forgotten a thing or 2, but here is the jist)
3 years, the NCAA runs the entire Athletic Department
2013, No Football Team
2012, all revenues from FB home games will go to visiting teams to make up for lost revenue on 2013 away dates
All wins after 1998 will be vacated
Loss of scholarships (can't remember the # the guy said, I think it was 10, for a LONG period of time) & no TV for a time after they return
When the program is reinstated in 2014, they will have the option to play 1 season as a Division II school
All players can transfer w/o sitting out effective immediately.
Again, take it FWIW
Edit - there was also (obv) a post season ban for a number of years
That cannot be right. Everyone is saying there is not DP in the mix.
I hear ya...just passing on unsubstantiated radio callers gossip...Perhaps NCAA said DP wasn't an option for 2012 season?
At any rate, can you imagine the butt-hurtedness (can we say butt hurt when referring to PSU things?) that would come out of Happy Valley if they vacate that many JoPa wins?
Take this FWIW, but a dude just called into the National show that is on 610 right now saying he has a friend @ the NCAA...this is what he says is coming (I may have forgotten a thing or 2, but here is the jist)
3 years, the NCAA runs the entire Athletic Department
2013, No Football Team
2012, all revenues from FB home games will go to visiting teams to make up for lost revenue on 2013 away dates
All wins after 1998 will be vacated
Loss of scholarships (can't remember the # the guy said, I think it was 10, for a LONG period of time) & no TV for a time after they return
When the program is reinstated in 2014, they will have the option to play 1 season as a Division II school
All players can transfer w/o sitting out effective immediately.
Again, take it FWIW
Edit - there was also (obv) a post season ban for a number of years
That cannot be right. Everyone is saying there is not DP in the mix.
I hear ya...just passing on unsubstantiated radio callers gossip...Perhaps NCAA said DP wasn't an option for 2012 season?
At any rate, can you imagine the butt-hurtedness (can we say butt hurt when referring to PSU things?) that would come out of Happy Valley if they vacate that many JoPa wins?
If you DP 2013 then what point is it to play 2012? :dunno:
Prolly in the minority for a non penn state fan, but I hope the ncaa stays the eff out of it. It's a criminal and civil matter. And the manner by which the ncaa is proceding (i.e. no due process or outside the normal process) hopefully will let penn state to sue the ever loving sh#t out of the ncaa.
Prolly in the minority for a non penn state fan, but I hope the ncaa stays the eff out of it. It's a criminal and civil matter. And the manner by which the ncaa is proceding (i.e. no due process or outside the normal process) hopefully will let penn state to sue the ever loving sh#t out of the ncaa.
Prolly in the minority for a non penn state fan, but I hope the ncaa stays the eff out of it. It's a criminal and civil matter. And the manner by which the ncaa is proceding (i.e. no due process or outside the normal process) hopefully will let penn state to sue the ever loving sh#t out of the ncaa.
Maybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.
Maybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.
Prolly in the minority for a non penn state fan, but I hope the ncaa stays the eff out of it. It's a criminal and civil matter. And the manner by which the ncaa is proceding (i.e. no due process or outside the normal process) hopefully will let penn state to sue the ever loving sh#t out of the ncaa.
Maybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.
They are agreeing because they want to get this the eff over with and get the bad PR done. You have to believe that the university as a whole is going to suffer, enrollment has to plummet.
Maybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.
Prolly in the minority for a non penn state fan, but I hope the ncaa stays the eff out of it. It's a criminal and civil matter. And the manner by which the ncaa is proceding (i.e. no due process or outside the normal process) hopefully will let penn state to sue the ever loving sh#t out of the ncaa.
It is happening so fast because PSU is agreeing to sanctions. They don't want the NCAA sniffing around.
Maybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.
The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state.
Maybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.
Maybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.
The obvious 'rule' that has been violated is a complete & total lack of institutional control. Hell, this may be the new benchmark in lack of IC, when you literally had a FB coach tell the Prez & AD NOT to take evidence to the authorities that his DC was rough ridin' little kids. This isn't the Prez looking the other way when a booster wires a kid $$, this is a prez looking the other way on (short of murder) probably the worst crime a human being can commit. The NCAA can clearly come in and say that if the culture is to allow THAT to happen, who knows if the players even went to class (clearly if JoPa could call out the Prez, he could get a Psych 101 teacher to pass the QB so he is eligible even though he didn't show up for class all semester), what ELSE the College Cops covered up at the behest of the program or any other litany of reaches you can get to.
I get that your point is everything except Sandusky rough ridin' kids in the paragraph is circumstantial at best and the NCAA is moving without proof...but that would take a LOT of time. Since PSU covered up the worst crime ever, there is NO doubt that they would/could/have covered up any minor infractions and since they already have then dead to rights covering up the worst of the worst, I think they have every reason to sanction the crap out of PSU.
The obvious precedent that has been set was the Dave Bliss situation @ Baylor. That was just one coach (or maybe he had an assistant help) that covered up a criminal act for the sole purpose of 'protecting the program'. I'm sure there was a lengthy NCAA investigation into that, BUT that wasn't something that took place over decades with high up school officials knowledge...that was a renegade, stupid coach that made a really, really stupid decision that was removed from the situation. Hell if memory serves, he was turned in by another assistant coach, so the 'culture' that is on trial at PSU wasn't nearly the issue @ Baylor...
Mark Emmert....sweep the leg.
Just realized that this whole story broke the day I took the test to become prolly the most ethical poster on this board. 10K spoons ironic?
Just realized that this whole story broke the day I took the test to become prolly the most ethical poster on this board. 10K spoons ironic?
Like rain on your wedding day.
Michael L. Buckner Law Firm Statement on Reports of NCAA Sanctions Against Penn State
POSTED BY MICHAEL L. BUCKNER, ESQUIRE ? JULY 22, 2012 ? 24 COMMENTS
FILED UNDER JERRY SANDUSKY, JOE PATERNO, LOUIS FREEH, MARK EMMERT, NCAA, PENN STATE, SEXUAL ABUSE SCANDAL
According to ESPN and other media organizations, NCAA president Mark Emmert has elected to issue sanctions on Monday (July 23, 2012) against Pennsylvania State University, including a loss of scholarships and a multiple-year bowl ban. If the media reports are true, then the NCAA has charted an unprecedented, and perhaps unconstitutional, course of action. Federal and state courts have consistently held that membership organizations, including athletics associations like the NCAA, are required to provide procedures that protect their members against arbitrary and irrational action. Thus, an NCAA rule or decision cannot be applied unreasonably so that it creates different classes of schools. Accordingly, any NCAA sanction against Penn State at this stage may potentially violate federal and state notions of due and fair process for several reasons, including, but not limited to:
The conduct of Penn State and its employees, no matter how egregious, is not a violation of an existing NCAA rule. In fact, according to available information, the NCAA has never interpreted, or issued sanctions under, existing rules to address only criminal violations (or the cover-up of criminal violations). Further, the NCAA has chosen to make criminal activity an NCAA rules-violation in limited circumstances (i.e., Bylaw 10.2 (Knowledge of Use of Banned Drugs) and Bylaw 31.2.3.4 (Banned Drugs))—and the activities described in the report by former FBI director Louis J. Freeh are not addressed in the NCAA Division I Manual.
The NCAA did not establish and publish a process and procedure to address the issues relevant in Penn State’s case. Instead, the NCAA is utilizing an ad-hoc process that has not been explained fully to the membership or the public.
The NCAA is not adhering to its existing enforcement processes and procedures.
The NCAA is treating Penn State differently than other schools that were involved in sexual assault scandals or other serious criminal misconduct.
The NCAA failed to provide Penn State: (a) a written notice of allegations; (b) an opportunity to respond to the notice of allegations; (c) a hearing before an NCAA infractions committee to address the allegations; and (d) a process for an appeal of NCAA findings and sanctions.
As legal counsel for colleges and universities before NCAA committees, we are extremely concerned about the possible NCAA actions and urge the organization to comply with its existing processes and procedures to address the Penn State sexual abuse scandal. In addition, based on our review of the Freeh report, the issues facing Penn State are best left in the expert hands of the criminal and civil courts, the federal Departments of Justice and Education, the Pennsylvania General Assembly and the relevant accrediting agencies.
The Michael L. Buckner Law Firm will issue a comprehensive statement on its blog (http://michaelbucknerlaw.wordpress.com/) after the NCAA announces the Penn State penalties.
My question is why does everybody suddenly forgets Michael Jackson was a child rapist the minute he dies, but Paterno continues to get the criticism he deserves?MJ was innocent.
My question is why does everybody suddenly forgets Michael Jackson was a child rapist the minute he dies, but Paterno continues to get the criticism he deserves?MJ was innocent.
Also Bet Penn State loses there AAU accreditation over this as well.
Also Bet Penn State loses there AAU accreditation over this as well.
the AAU doesn't give a crap about this stuff. BUT, a loss of research money as a result of this could get the ball rolling.
Also Bet Penn State loses there AAU accreditation over this as well.
the AAU doesn't give a crap about this stuff. BUT, a loss of research money as a result of this could get the ball rolling.
They will use the moral authority argument that the NCAA will use today. Have also heard that they could even lose there Department of Ed accreditation for this as well then that would kick them out of the NCAA all together.
Also Bet Penn State loses there AAU accreditation over this as well.
the AAU doesn't give a crap about this stuff. BUT, a loss of research money as a result of this could get the ball rolling.
They will use the moral authority argument that the NCAA will use today. Have also heard that they could even lose there Department of Ed accreditation for this as well then that would kick them out of the NCAA all together.
well, you seem to know a lot about it stormnut
My question is why does everybody suddenly forgets Michael Jackson was a child rapist the minute he dies, but Paterno continues to get the criticism he deserves?MJ was innocent.
Fine: $60MM to endow abuse foundation (1 yr. gross revenue for FB)
4 yr Bowl/Post Season Ban
10 scholarship reduction for 4 years
All players can transfer
All current players can retain scholarship
Vacate all wins from 1998-2011
5 year probation
reserve right to sanction individuals after further criminal trials
Maybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.
What precedent is there to criminal actions, such as in the case at hand, taken with the intent to bolster an NCAA program? That's what we have here. We have perhaps the most heinous crimes on earth, covered up, to preserve the standing of an NCAA program.
How on earth does that fail to fall within area in which the NCAA can act?
Penn State can still play football outside of the NCAA. They can still stage football events at their 80K stadium. The NCAA is merely saying that if you choose to wantonly fail to report child rape to protect the image of your program, then you have to pay if you still want to be in the NCAA.
Don't like it? Leave the NCAA. Problem solved.
Fine: $60MM to endow abuse foundation (1 yr. gross revenue for FB)
4 yr Bowl/Post Season Ban
10 scholarship reduction for 4 years
All players can transfer
All current players can retain scholarship
Vacate all wins from 1998-2011
5 year probation
reserve right to sanction individuals after further criminal trials
Fine: $60MM to endow abuse foundation (1 yr. gross revenue for FB)
4 yr Bowl/Post Season Ban
10 scholarship reduction for 4 years
All players can transfer
All current players can retain scholarship
Vacate all wins from 1998-2011
5 year probation
reserve right to sanction individuals after further criminal trials
BOOM!
So this makes Bobby Bowden the coach with the most wins in D1 now, right?
Now the big question becomes . . . does Penn State just accept this, or are they going to challenge this in court??
Now the big question becomes . . . does Penn State just accept this, or are they going to challenge this in court??
Maybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.
What precedent is there to criminal actions, such as in the case at hand, taken with the intent to bolster an NCAA program? That's what we have here. We have perhaps the most heinous crimes on earth, covered up, to preserve the standing of an NCAA program.
How on earth does that fail to fall within area in which the NCAA can act?
Penn State can still play football outside of the NCAA. They can still stage football events at their 80K stadium. The NCAA is merely saying that if you choose to wantonly fail to report child rape to protect the image of your program, then you have to pay if you still want to be in the NCAA.
Don't like it? Leave the NCAA. Problem solved.
yeah, get all that. just questioning whether the ncaa is the correct authoritative body to hand down punishment for this. seems like a court (civil or criminal) and possibly the DOE should be. I just kind of want it to come from a different organization than the one that said "oh, well, ya know, auburn and cam didn't really break any rules, cause, like Cam didn't know and stuff."
Now the big question becomes . . . does Penn State just accept this, or are they going to challenge this in court??
I think the general thought is that they would have already had to have agreed to these sanctions for the NCAA to announce them in the manner they are (not going through the normal channels)
Alum want to sue the NCAA however so we shall see.
Yeah it will be high theater because a good set of lawyers could easily make a great case that the NCAA has way over stepped their authority.
Yeah it will be high theater because a good set of lawyers could easily make a great case that the NCAA has way over stepped their authority.
As stated before, the release of any PSU player without having to sit out a year is going to kill the football program. Package that will the inability to recruit high caliber players due to limit of scholarships and bowl ban and you have yourself SMU 2.0.
Emmert just said the $60M must not come at the expense of other programs, I thought. Will be interesting to see.
As stated before, the release of any PSU player without having to sit out a year is going to kill the football program. Package that will the inability to recruit high caliber players due to limit of scholarships and bowl ban and you have yourself SMU 2.0.
Know you don't. SMU was/is a small private school that barely moves the needle in Dallas trying to buy their way into football relevance on the back of a small group of boosters/alums.
Penn State is not the same thing on any level. For starters, until further notice Penn State can still raise millions of dollars in private money . . . SMU went from crowds of 45,000 at Cowboys Stadium to nothing for a year, and then crowds of 8,000 playing in their old tiny on campus stadium. Penn State will still be putting 80,000 plus people in the stands easy.
slimz . . . alumni have brought suits against the NCAA, I believe some Alabama boosters/alums did about 10 years ago or so, and that involved areas of clear cut NCAA oversight.
As stated before, the release of any PSU player without having to sit out a year is going to kill the football program. Package that will the inability to recruit high caliber players due to limit of scholarships and bowl ban and you have yourself SMU 2.0.
Know you don't. SMU was/is a small private school that barely moves the needle in Dallas trying to buy their way into football relevance on the back of a small group of boosters/alums.
Penn State is not the same thing on any level. For starters, until further notice Penn State can still raise millions of dollars in private money . . . SMU went from crowds of 45,000 at Cowboys Stadium to nothing for a year, and then crowds of 8,000 playing in their old tiny on campus stadium. Penn State will still be putting 80,000 plus people in the stands easy.
slimz . . . alumni have brought suits against the NCAA, I believe some Alabama boosters/alums did about 10 years ago or so, and that involved areas of clear cut NCAA oversight.
Yeah Penn State agreed to the ruling I guess . . . were probably coerced into signing, but the only actual NCAA rules giving the NCAA authority here is some very cryptic, open ended language in the LOIC guidelines/rules.
You're not very smart if you don't think that Penn State wouldn't have a leg to stand on in a court of law if they choose to do so.
Thanks Slimz, you win the Captain Obvious Award of the day.
Yeah Penn State agreed to the ruling I guess . . . were probably coerced into signing, but the only actual NCAA rules giving the NCAA authority here is some very cryptic, open ended language in the LOIC guidelines/rules.
You're not very smart if you don't think that Penn State wouldn't have a leg to stand on in a court of law if they choose to do so.
Thanks Slimz, you win the Captain Obvious Award of the day.
You showed me, dax. Thanks for your excellent legal analysis.
Yeah it will be high theater because a good set of lawyers could easily make a great case that the NCAA has way over stepped their authority.
That is partly because the fans had the belief that the new recruits were going to be able to turn it around. When PSU starts getting giddy over 2 and 3* recruits, I don't think they will be able to consistently put 80 in the stands.
Yeah they will Dobber, they already put over 100,000 in the stands now, and consistently did that even when they had pretty mediocre teams.
Yeah Penn State agreed to the ruling I guess . . . were probably coerced into signing, but the only actual NCAA rules giving the NCAA authority here is some very cryptic, open ended language in the LOIC guidelines/rules.
You're not very smart if you don't think that Penn State wouldn't have a leg to stand on in a court of law if they choose to do so.
Thanks Slimz, you win the Captain Obvious Award of the day.
You showed me, dax. Thanks for your excellent legal analysis.
Your legal analysis consisted of saying people can file lawsuits and the courts can decide if they have merit. Brilliant.
Yeah it will be high theater because a good set of lawyers could easily make a great case that the NCAA has way over stepped their authority.
And any lawyer would destroy idiot alumni on standing, let alone getting to do more discovery on the 25 years of child rape that the school assisted in.
The alumni would get just wrecked
810 Saying they might wave scholarship limit for any school accepting Penn State players! :excited:
OPEN SEASON!
Maybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.
What precedent is there to criminal actions, such as in the case at hand, taken with the intent to bolster an NCAA program? That's what we have here. We have perhaps the most heinous crimes on earth, covered up, to preserve the standing of an NCAA program.
How on earth does that fail to fall within area in which the NCAA can act?
Penn State can still play football outside of the NCAA. They can still stage football events at their 80K stadium. The NCAA is merely saying that if you choose to wantonly fail to report child rape to protect the image of your program, then you have to pay if you still want to be in the NCAA.
Don't like it? Leave the NCAA. Problem solved.
yeah, get all that. just questioning whether the ncaa is the correct authoritative body to hand down punishment for this. seems like a court (civil or criminal) and possibly the DOE should be. I just kind of want it to come from a different organization than the one that said "oh, well, ya know, auburn and cam didn't really break any rules, cause, like Cam didn't know and stuff."
Well the CIA isn't getting involved and a civil court may tap their money but the football team churns along as if no children were raped.
Yeah it will be high theater because a good set of lawyers could easily make a great case that the NCAA has way over stepped their authority.
And any lawyer would destroy idiot alumni on standing, let alone getting to do more discovery on the 25 years of child rape that the school assisted in.
The alumni would get just wrecked
You're wrong, LSOC. Penn State was coerced into accepting these sanctions, and Alabama alums sued the NCAA before, so the lawsuit floodgates ARE NOW OPEN!
810 Saying they might wave scholarship limit for any school accepting Penn State players! :excited:
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810 Saying they might wave scholarship limit for any school accepting Penn State players! :excited:
OPEN SEASON!
lol at anyone that thinks we'll get a single penn state player.
lol at anyone that thinks we'll get a single penn state player.
lol at anyone that thinks we'll get a single penn state player.
WE GOTTA TRY RICK! WE GOTTA!
Maybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.
What precedent is there to criminal actions, such as in the case at hand, taken with the intent to bolster an NCAA program? That's what we have here. We have perhaps the most heinous crimes on earth, covered up, to preserve the standing of an NCAA program.
How on earth does that fail to fall within area in which the NCAA can act?
Penn State can still play football outside of the NCAA. They can still stage football events at their 80K stadium. The NCAA is merely saying that if you choose to wantonly fail to report child rape to protect the image of your program, then you have to pay if you still want to be in the NCAA.
Don't like it? Leave the NCAA. Problem solved.
yeah, get all that. just questioning whether the ncaa is the correct authoritative body to hand down punishment for this. seems like a court (civil or criminal) and possibly the DOE should be. I just kind of want it to come from a different organization than the one that said "oh, well, ya know, auburn and cam didn't really break any rules, cause, like Cam didn't know and stuff."
Well the CIA isn't getting involved and a civil court may tap their money but the football team churns along as if no children were raped.
don't disagree with the punishment (or that the institution should be punished), just disagree with the body handing it down.
Good lord our compliance dept is prolly in overdrive right now.
From what I have read, Penn State did not sign off on this nor did they know in advance. If that is the case, I would bet there will be lawsuits and this will drag on for months/years.
ESPN (but no source) http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8191027/penn-state-hit-60-million-fine-4-year-bowl-ban-wins-dating-1998From what I have read, Penn State did not sign off on this nor did they know in advance. If that is the case, I would bet there will be lawsuits and this will drag on for months/years.
Where on earth did you read that?
lol at anyone that thinks we'll get a single penn state player.
WE GOTTA TRY RICK! WE GOTTA!
Have we offered anyone over the last 2-3 years who chose Penn State? Prolly very few, but start with those guys....use pay phones or Skype.
ESPN (but no source) http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8191027/penn-state-hit-60-million-fine-4-year-bowl-ban-wins-dating-1998From what I have read, Penn State did not sign off on this nor did they know in advance. If that is the case, I would bet there will be lawsuits and this will drag on for months/years.
Where on earth did you read that?
Penn State athletics had been given no indication from the NCAA about what sanctions or penalties were to be levied on the department and football program, a source with direct knowledge of the situation in State College told ESPN.com's Andy Katz on Sunday night. If this were a traditional infractions case, the athletic department would have known up to 24 hours in advance.
Penn State, in a statement released less than an hour after the sanctions were revealed, said it will accept them
lol at anyone that thinks we'll get a single penn state player.
WE GOTTA TRY RICK! WE GOTTA!
Have we offered anyone over the last 2-3 years who chose Penn State? Prolly very few, but start with those guys....use pay phones or Skype.
we couldn't even get the really good football playing high jumper from emporia and we're less than an hour away, coming of a 10-2 season and employ the best high jumping coach in america. we aren't getting any penn state players.
Hey guys, guess who's the "cross divisional rival" of Nebraska? :flush:
What time do you think Currie woke up this morning? Did he even sleep last night or was he too excited?
I'd feel better if the criminal and civil courts (and possibly the department of education or justice department) did their job. I dunno, the ncaa standing on moral high ground is akin to a whore giving a sermon about chastity at church. I find it hollow for them to find their balls now. I guess I am all for burning it all down, starting with the ncaa, then penn state. Maybe chuck norriss could do it.Maybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.
What precedent is there to criminal actions, such as in the case at hand, taken with the intent to bolster an NCAA program? That's what we have here. We have perhaps the most heinous crimes on earth, covered up, to preserve the standing of an NCAA program.
How on earth does that fail to fall within area in which the NCAA can act?
Penn State can still play football outside of the NCAA. They can still stage football events at their 80K stadium. The NCAA is merely saying that if you choose to wantonly fail to report child rape to protect the image of your program, then you have to pay if you still want to be in the NCAA.
Don't like it? Leave the NCAA. Problem solved.
yeah, get all that. just questioning whether the ncaa is the correct authoritative body to hand down punishment for this. seems like a court (civil or criminal) and possibly the DOE should be. I just kind of want it to come from a different organization than the one that said "oh, well, ya know, auburn and cam didn't really break any rules, cause, like Cam didn't know and stuff."
Well the CIA isn't getting involved and a civil court may tap their money but the football team churns along as if no children were raped.
don't disagree with the punishment (or that the institution should be punished), just disagree with the body handing it down.
Lot's of people hate the NCAA but it might be the only one who has the reach to sap some of their football programs strength. Would you feel better if a civil court started handing out schollie limits and post season bans? I wouldn't
I'd feel better if the criminal and civil courts (and possibly the department of education or justice department) did their job. I dunno, the ncaa standing on moral high ground is akin to a whore giving a sermon about chastity at church. I find it hollow for them to find their balls now. I guess I am all for burning it all down, starting with the ncaa, then penn state. Maybe chuck norriss could do it.Maybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.
What precedent is there to criminal actions, such as in the case at hand, taken with the intent to bolster an NCAA program? That's what we have here. We have perhaps the most heinous crimes on earth, covered up, to preserve the standing of an NCAA program.
How on earth does that fail to fall within area in which the NCAA can act?
Penn State can still play football outside of the NCAA. They can still stage football events at their 80K stadium. The NCAA is merely saying that if you choose to wantonly fail to report child rape to protect the image of your program, then you have to pay if you still want to be in the NCAA.
Don't like it? Leave the NCAA. Problem solved.
yeah, get all that. just questioning whether the ncaa is the correct authoritative body to hand down punishment for this. seems like a court (civil or criminal) and possibly the DOE should be. I just kind of want it to come from a different organization than the one that said "oh, well, ya know, auburn and cam didn't really break any rules, cause, like Cam didn't know and stuff."
Well the CIA isn't getting involved and a civil court may tap their money but the football team churns along as if no children were raped.
don't disagree with the punishment (or that the institution should be punished), just disagree with the body handing it down.
Lot's of people hate the NCAA but it might be the only one who has the reach to sap some of their football programs strength. Would you feel better if a civil court started handing out schollie limits and post season bans? I wouldn't
What time do you think Currie woke up this morning? Did he even sleep last night or was he too excited?
What do you think would have been more exciting to him? Viewing NCAA oversight at its zenith? Or, knowing he can start dictating policy in regards to pursuing Penn State players within a matter of hours?
I'd feel better if the criminal and civil courts (and possibly the department of education or justice department) did their job. I dunno, the ncaa standing on moral high ground is akin to a whore giving a sermon about chastity at church. I find it hollow for them to find their balls now. I guess I am all for burning it all down, starting with the ncaa, then penn state. Maybe chuck norriss could do it.Maybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.
What precedent is there to criminal actions, such as in the case at hand, taken with the intent to bolster an NCAA program? That's what we have here. We have perhaps the most heinous crimes on earth, covered up, to preserve the standing of an NCAA program.
How on earth does that fail to fall within area in which the NCAA can act?
Penn State can still play football outside of the NCAA. They can still stage football events at their 80K stadium. The NCAA is merely saying that if you choose to wantonly fail to report child rape to protect the image of your program, then you have to pay if you still want to be in the NCAA.
Don't like it? Leave the NCAA. Problem solved.
yeah, get all that. just questioning whether the ncaa is the correct authoritative body to hand down punishment for this. seems like a court (civil or criminal) and possibly the DOE should be. I just kind of want it to come from a different organization than the one that said "oh, well, ya know, auburn and cam didn't really break any rules, cause, like Cam didn't know and stuff."
Well the CIA isn't getting involved and a civil court may tap their money but the football team churns along as if no children were raped.
don't disagree with the punishment (or that the institution should be punished), just disagree with the body handing it down.
Lot's of people hate the NCAA but it might be the only one who has the reach to sap some of their football programs strength. Would you feel better if a civil court started handing out schollie limits and post season bans? I wouldn't
Just read that Penn State gets no share of Bowl revenue for 4 years.
I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.
I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.
The DOE can go after PSU for not complying with laws regarding the reciept of federal education funds and the reporting of sexual abuse statistics. Aren't these the laws they are using to procecute the UP & AD?
I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.
The DOE can go after PSU for not complying with laws regarding the reciept of federal education funds and the reporting of sexual abuse statistics. Aren't these the laws they are using to procecute the UP & AD?
This - There is also a law in place about having to report crimes committed on campus and failure to do so could cause them to lose there accreditation and the ability for the school to accept federal student loan money.
Please keep us posted on what perverted things the GPC guys have to say about this picture...
I'm going to say it has to do with an "O-face"
I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.
The DOE can go after PSU for not complying with laws regarding the reciept of federal education funds and the reporting of sexual abuse statistics. Aren't these the laws they are using to procecute the UP & AD?
This - There is also a law in place about having to report crimes committed on campus and failure to do so could cause them to lose there accreditation and the ability for the school to accept federal student loan money.
I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.
The DOE can go after PSU for not complying with laws regarding the reciept of federal education funds and the reporting of sexual abuse statistics. Aren't these the laws they are using to procecute the UP & AD?
This - There is also a law in place about having to report crimes committed on campus and failure to do so could cause them to lose there accreditation and the ability for the school to accept federal student loan money.
Maybe I'm wrong here but none of these incidents were charged as crimes at the time so how could they report them?
I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.
The DOE can go after PSU for not complying with laws regarding the reciept of federal education funds and the reporting of sexual abuse statistics. Aren't these the laws they are using to procecute the UP & AD?
This - There is also a law in place about having to report crimes committed on campus and failure to do so could cause them to lose there accreditation and the ability for the school to accept federal student loan money.
Maybe I'm wrong here but none of these incidents were charged as crimes at the time so how could they report them?
Please keep us posted on what perverted things the GPC guys have to say about this picture...
I'm going to say it has to do with an "O-face"
I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.
The DOE can go after PSU for not complying with laws regarding the reciept of federal education funds and the reporting of sexual abuse statistics. Aren't these the laws they are using to procecute the UP & AD?
This - There is also a law in place about having to report crimes committed on campus and failure to do so could cause them to lose there accreditation and the ability for the school to accept federal student loan money.
Maybe I'm wrong here but none of these incidents were charged as crimes at the time so how could they report them?
Just because someone is not charged (Sandusky was charged and convicted of incidents that occurred on University Property) does not mean a crime goes unreported. The bear crap in the woods, it still makes a smell.
Please keep us posted on what perverted things the GPC guys have to say about this picture...
I'm going to say it has to do with an "O-face"
I'll drop that picture over there and report back.
I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.
The DOE can go after PSU for not complying with laws regarding the reciept of federal education funds and the reporting of sexual abuse statistics. Aren't these the laws they are using to procecute the UP & AD?
This - There is also a law in place about having to report crimes committed on campus and failure to do so could cause them to lose there accreditation and the ability for the school to accept federal student loan money.
Maybe I'm wrong here but none of these incidents were charged as crimes at the time so how could they report them?
Just because someone is not charged (Sandusky was charged and convicted of incidents that occurred on University Property) does not mean a crime goes unreported. The bear crap in the woods, it still makes a smell.
Sandusky has been charged now so those rape incidents will now be added to sexual abuse statistics. The university has to report crimes, but it wouldn't have done so up until now without even a report or conviction. What I'm saying is the DOE probably doesn't have a leg to stand on with federal money and reporting statistics.
I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.
The DOE can go after PSU for not complying with laws regarding the reciept of federal education funds and the reporting of sexual abuse statistics. Aren't these the laws they are using to procecute the UP & AD?
This - There is also a law in place about having to report crimes committed on campus and failure to do so could cause them to lose there accreditation and the ability for the school to accept federal student loan money.
Maybe I'm wrong here but none of these incidents were charged as crimes at the time so how could they report them?
Just because someone is not charged (Sandusky was charged and convicted of incidents that occurred on University Property) does not mean a crime goes unreported. The bear crap in the woods, it still makes a smell.
Sandusky has been charged now so those rape incidents will now be added to sexual abuse statistics. The university has to report crimes, but it wouldn't have done so up until now without even a report or conviction. What I'm saying is the DOE probably doesn't have a leg to stand on with federal money and reporting statistics.
Your not getting it, These incidents should have been reported by the people in power long before they were reported. The hid the crimes committed on there campus from every one. The fact that we now know does not make it legal that they failed to report it in the past. You sound like a Penn State fan.
Sandusky has been charged now so those rape incidents will now be added to sexual abuse statistics. The university has to report crimes, but it wouldn't have done so up until now without even a report or conviction. What I'm saying is the DOE probably doesn't have a leg to stand on with federal money and reporting statistics.
I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.
The DOE can go after PSU for not complying with laws regarding the reciept of federal education funds and the reporting of sexual abuse statistics. Aren't these the laws they are using to procecute the UP & AD?
This - There is also a law in place about having to report crimes committed on campus and failure to do so could cause them to lose there accreditation and the ability for the school to accept federal student loan money.
Maybe I'm wrong here but none of these incidents were charged as crimes at the time so how could they report them?
Just because someone is not charged (Sandusky was charged and convicted of incidents that occurred on University Property) does not mean a crime goes unreported. The bear crap in the woods, it still makes a smell.
Sandusky has been charged now so those rape incidents will now be added to sexual abuse statistics. The university has to report crimes, but it wouldn't have done so up until now without even a report or conviction. What I'm saying is the DOE probably doesn't have a leg to stand on with federal money and reporting statistics.
Your not getting it, These incidents should have been reported by the people in power long before they were reported. The hid the crimes committed on there campus from every one. The fact that we now know does not make it legal that they failed to report it in the past. You sound like a Penn State fan.
I understand what your saying and no I'm not a Penn State fan. All I'm saying is I highly doubt the DOE comes in and takes away federal money to the university once the president is charged.
The QB in Paterno's last official win was Mike McQueary.
I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.
The DOE can go after PSU for not complying with laws regarding the reciept of federal education funds and the reporting of sexual abuse statistics. Aren't these the laws they are using to procecute the UP & AD?
This - There is also a law in place about having to report crimes committed on campus and failure to do so could cause them to lose there accreditation and the ability for the school to accept federal student loan money.
Maybe I'm wrong here but none of these incidents were charged as crimes at the time so how could they report them?
Just because someone is not charged (Sandusky was charged and convicted of incidents that occurred on University Property) does not mean a crime goes unreported. The bear crap in the woods, it still makes a smell.
Sandusky has been charged now so those rape incidents will now be added to sexual abuse statistics. The university has to report crimes, but it wouldn't have done so up until now without even a report or conviction. What I'm saying is the DOE probably doesn't have a leg to stand on with federal money and reporting statistics.
Your not getting it, These incidents should have been reported by the people in power long before they were reported. The hid the crimes committed on there campus from every one. The fact that we now know does not make it legal that they failed to report it in the past. You sound like a Penn State fan.
I understand what your saying and no I'm not a Penn State fan. All I'm saying is I highly doubt the DOE comes in and takes away federal money to the university once the president is charged.
http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/2011/may/27/dept-education-cites-yale-underreporting-crime-sex/ (http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/2011/may/27/dept-education-cites-yale-underreporting-crime-sex/)
Something like this will happen but much much worse
Isn't the NCAA just a club that can just kick people out if they feel like? I don't see how the government could have any jurisdiction over their membership policies, beyond ensuring they are non-discriminatory.
Isn't the NCAA just a club that can just kick people out if they feel like? I don't see how the government could have any jurisdiction over their membership policies, beyond ensuring they are non-discriminatory.
Not really.
Isn't the NCAA just a club that can just kick people out if they feel like? I don't see how the government could have any jurisdiction over their membership policies, beyond ensuring they are non-discriminatory.
Not really.
well, they can set rules up that allow them to kick out members, right?
If the stuff that's coming out from the Penn State blogs and message boards today are any indication of their fanbase's overall current disposition, then the NCAA didn't go far enough.
The QB in Paterno's last official win was Mike McQueary.
If the stuff that's coming out from the Penn State blogs and message boards today are any indication of their fanbase's overall current disposition, then the NCAA didn't go far enough.
If Snyder was caught in the exact same situation, you don't think GPC'rs would defend him to the end?
If the stuff that's coming out from the Penn State blogs and message boards today are any indication of their fanbase's overall current disposition, then the NCAA didn't go far enough.
If Snyder was caught in the exact same situation, you don't think GPC'rs would defend him to the end?
But at least there is a fair share of our fanbase that would be disgraced by it. Their fanbase is 98% :powerespect: whereas ours is probably 75%
PSUFitz reporting that players have 10 days to decide if they are transfering to get the exemption.
If the stuff that's coming out from the Penn State blogs and message boards today are any indication of their fanbase's overall current disposition, then the NCAA didn't go far enough.
If Snyder was caught in the exact same situation, you don't think GPC'rs would defend him to the end?
But at least there is a fair share of our fanbase that would be disgraced by it. Their fanbase is 98% :powerespect: whereas ours is probably 75%
Oh, believe me, the shitstorm on GPC and KSF would be unbearable. But I'd say damn near all of this board would want Snyder's head on a platter, and we're definitely not an insignificant representation of the KSU fanbase. There are a number of "silent majority*" fans who would recoil pretty readily as well.
*fans who aren't entirely vocal and occasionally trend towards tuck-y but aren't entirely blind either.
Paterno family: NCAA sanctions are a 'panicked response' and 'defame the legacy and contributions' of late coach - @cnn http://bit.ly/QsyOXz
If the stuff that's coming out from the Penn State blogs and message boards today are any indication of their fanbase's overall current disposition, then the NCAA didn't go far enough.
If Snyder was caught in the exact same situation, you don't think GPC'rs would defend him to the end?
But at least there is a fair share of our fanbase that would be disgraced by it. Their fanbase is 98% :powerespect: whereas ours is probably 75%
Oh, believe me, the shitstorm on GPC and KSF would be unbearable. But I'd say damn near all of this board would want Snyder's head on a platter, and we're definitely not an insignificant representation of the KSU fanbase. There are a number of "silent majority*" fans who would recoil pretty readily as well.
*fans who aren't entirely vocal and occasionally trend towards tuck-y but aren't entirely blind either.
If the stuff that's coming out from the Penn State blogs and message boards today are any indication of their fanbase's overall current disposition, then the NCAA didn't go far enough.
If Snyder was caught in the exact same situation, you don't think GPC'rs would defend him to the end?
But at least there is a fair share of our fanbase that would be disgraced by it. Their fanbase is 98% :powerespect: whereas ours is probably 75%
Oh, believe me, the shitstorm on GPC and KSF would be unbearable. But I'd say damn near all of this board would want Snyder's head on a platter, and we're definitely not an insignificant representation of the KSU fanbase. There are a number of "silent majority*" fans who would recoil pretty readily as well.
*fans who aren't entirely vocal and occasionally trend towards tuck-y but aren't entirely blind either.
I think K-State/Snyder is the most apt comparison to JoePa/PSU in college football and even then, Penn St at least twice that between a 50 year tenure and national championships. Yea, this board would be calling for his head, but we would be sitting near a 2 to 1 split in favor of Snyder apologists
If the stuff that's coming out from the Penn State blogs and message boards today are any indication of their fanbase's overall current disposition, then the NCAA didn't go far enough.
i feel like my kids were just raped by paterno, curley, schultz & spanier.
i cant imagine what its like to be a level headed PSU fan right now. id have to leave the internets.
i cant imagine what its like to be a level headed PSU fan right now. id have to leave the internets.
If the stuff that's coming out from the Penn State blogs and message boards today are any indication of their fanbase's overall current disposition, then the NCAA didn't go far enough.
If Snyder was caught in the exact same situation, you don't think GPC'rs would defend him to the end?
But at least there is a fair share of our fanbase that would be disgraced by it. Their fanbase is 98% :powerespect: whereas ours is probably 75%
Oh, believe me, the shitstorm on GPC and KSF would be unbearable. But I'd say damn near all of this board would want Snyder's head on a platter, and we're definitely not an insignificant representation of the KSU fanbase. There are a number of "silent majority*" fans who would recoil pretty readily as well.
*fans who aren't entirely vocal and occasionally trend towards tuck-y but aren't entirely blind either.
I think K-State/Snyder is the most apt comparison to JoePa/PSU in college football and even then, Penn St at least twice that between a 50 year tenure and national championships. Yea, this board would be calling for his head, but we would be sitting near a 2 to 1 split in favor of Snyder apologists
If the stuff that's coming out from the Penn State blogs and message boards today are any indication of their fanbase's overall current disposition, then the NCAA didn't go far enough.Quotei feel like my kids were just raped by paterno, curley, schultz & spanier.
:nono:
where are you finding these quotes?
where are you finding these quotes?
If the stuff that's coming out from the Penn State blogs and message boards today are any indication of their fanbase's overall current disposition, then the NCAA didn't go far enough.Quotei feel like my kids were just raped by paterno, curley, schultz & spanier.
:nono:
^^ That guy also made a 9/11 reference in his post. :sdeek:
For those of you wondering if/hoping that Penn St transfers land at K-State, don't hold you breath. Judging by recruit databases anyway.
Quote from: @call_me_wallaceFor those of you wondering if/hoping that Penn St transfers land at K-State, don't hold you breath. Judging by recruit databases anyway.
what on earth would he do without the internet?
If the stuff that's coming out from the Penn State blogs and message boards today are any indication of their fanbase's overall current disposition, then the NCAA didn't go far enough.Quotei feel like my kids were just raped by paterno, curley, schultz & spanier.
:nono:
^^ That guy also made a 9/11 reference in his post. :sdeek:
That was the topic, this was the rest of his post: "I feel like the day of September 11, 2001. My kids are devastated. Have to attend all games this year to support the students, but also because this might be the last good year for a while. NCAA went too far. My wife is furious at Paterno."
How do the PSU fans respond to this post? You guessed it, they attack his wife for being mad at Paterno.
Quote from: @call_me_wallaceFor those of you wondering if/hoping that Penn St transfers land at K-State, don't hold you breath. Judging by recruit databases anyway.
what on earth would he do without the internet?
LISTEN GUYS. DON'T MAKE ME DO ANY WORK AND CALL PEOPLE AND STUFF.
Quote from: @call_me_wallaceFor those of you wondering if/hoping that Penn St transfers land at K-State, don't hold you breath. Judging by recruit databases anyway.
what on earth would he do without the internet?
If the stuff that's coming out from the Penn State blogs and message boards today are any indication of their fanbase's overall current disposition, then the NCAA didn't go far enough.Quotei feel like my kids were just raped by paterno, curley, schultz & spanier.
:nono:
^^ That guy also made a 9/11 reference in his post. :sdeek:
That was the topic, this was the rest of his post: "I feel like the day of September 11, 2001. My kids are devastated. Have to attend all games this year to support the students, but also because this might be the last good year for a while. NCAA went too far. My wife is furious at Paterno."
How do the PSU fans respond to this post? You guessed it, they attack his wife for being mad at Paterno.
They are insane. This is really, really great and makes me appreciate the NCAA's penalty even more. These cocksuckers have to watch a decade of awful football instead of just losing it all together.
And their attack of the Freeh report is awesome. Their primary criticism is that 4 of the 5 "principals" were not interviewed - even though those people had given sworn grand jury testimony and any "interview" would likely have been with a lawyer sitting there. Also, did they expect the principals to admit to lying/covering up? I think you can go ask Jerry Sandusky if he was raping young boys and pretty much guess what the answer will be.
This is the same argument as "we showered with him and never saw anything out of line" like he would go pedo-rape crazy in front of several witnesses.
The level headed ones are getting creamed.
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THE SANCTIONS
Well the sanctions are damn tough Jim. Well I've heard enough about "how tough it'll be for the players, coaches, vendors, university and T-shirt sales persons. Well how lo g will those guys with the expanded butts endure the damage caused to themselves? I feel as if those guys are bearing quite a large load, guilt feelings, etc. Very poor example.e of our culturaldevelopment.
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Ruling...any team which is "full" can absorb one schoolyard thisyear,these reduce your schoolyard limit NEXT year by one schoolyard soon this year 26 next your. 24. As a side I excepted Texas. Out nd. And. USC.7/23 1:45 PM | IP: Logged
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8191701
:lol:
I wish JoePa was still alive.... would love to see him cornered with all this now.
Senility defense.I wish JoePa was still alive.... would love to see him cornered with all this now.
Insanity defense.
someone please photoshop joe pa wearing a prison jumpsuit and handcuffs if possible. TIA
someone please photoshop joe pa wearing a prison jumpsuit and handcuffs if possible. TIA
With bobby Bowden smoking a cigar as the warden.
Most of the things I post in this thread are stolen from TMB. Those mister falcons are doing work over there.
Spend some time with this pretty comprehensive BlueWhiteInsider post thread.
http://www.the-mainboard.com/index.php?threads/bluewhite-illustrated-fightonstate-fan-reactions.113299/
Yup. No contrition, just attacked Freeh and claimed everyone was lying except their guys.
Some of them (I think Paterno family) went as far as to claim "lots of people have seen Jerry shower and saw nothing" as if he would forcibly sodomize a 10 year old boy in front of them were he actually.
The NCAA will have plenty of support here. The anti-NCAA types won't have a platform.
The amusing part will be when Emmert grants the players the ability to transfer without penalty....thinking they'll all leave....and those brainwashed fuckers all stay. I predict this happening.
Yeah, I see anything other than NO FOOTBALL having the opposite effect than intended. The program, school and town will rally together to win games for Joe.
Yup. No contrition, just attacked Freeh and claimed everyone was lying except their guys.
Some of them (I think Paterno family) went as far as to claim "lots of people have seen Jerry shower and saw nothing" as if he would forcibly sodomize a 10 year old boy in front of them were he actually.
The NCAA will have plenty of support here. The anti-NCAA types won't have a platform.
The amusing part will be when Emmert grants the players the ability to transfer without penalty....thinking they'll all leave....and those brainwashed fuckers all stay. I predict this happening.
Yeah, I see anything other than NO FOOTBALL having the opposite effect than intended. The program, school and town will rally together to win games for Joe.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa.espncdn.com%2Fphoto%2F2012%2F0723%2Fncf_g_pennsts_600.jpg&hash=5b7e8e8cc63dc4228b077076310ddb0c89e44672)
Guys, now that we know the NCAA sanctions and we've seen who all is penalized, from local shop owners to current athletes, to fans, to coaches, and the entire Penn St community, I think we're seeing who the real victims are. And its those kids who got raped.
Guys, now that we know the NCAA sanctions and we've seen who all is penalized, from local shop owners to current athletes, to fans, to coaches, and the entire Penn St community, I think we're seeing who the real victims are. And its those kids who got raped.
So you are saying it ISN'T the wealthy donors whose lives haven't changed except maybe now cheering for a crappy football team and it IS the frightened young boys from disadvantaged homes who placed trust in an adult who then raped and forcibly sodomized them over a span of decades with a entire Athletic Department declining to even consider, let alone protect, them?
I guess it's possible.
omgOk. So I watched this on the phone and couldn't see the players attire. Is this real or a march madness watch party? Cause if it's real... #priceless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YASWRhCXWKY&feature=player_embedded#!
:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
omgOk. So I watched this on the phone and couldn't see the players attire. Is this real or a march madness watch party? Cause if it's real... #priceless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YASWRhCXWKY&feature=player_embedded#!
:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
Can't wait for you to come to a MOAP party. Keep doing you, rook.omgOk. So I watched this on the phone and couldn't see the players attire. Is this real or a march madness watch party? Cause if it's real... #priceless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YASWRhCXWKY&feature=player_embedded#!
:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
:facepalm:
Can't wait for you to come to a MOAP party. Keep doing you, rook.omgOk. So I watched this on the phone and couldn't see the players attire. Is this real or a march madness watch party? Cause if it's real... #priceless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YASWRhCXWKY&feature=player_embedded#!
:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
:facepalm:
:dubious:Can't wait for you to come to a MOAP party. Keep doing you, rook.omgOk. So I watched this on the phone and couldn't see the players attire. Is this real or a march madness watch party? Cause if it's real... #priceless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YASWRhCXWKY&feature=player_embedded#!
:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
:facepalm:
Hurry up and write a column so I can destroy you.
Tyler Hughes is jealous of this Sandusky guy. Also, not at all surprised that Joe Pa is a crap human being.LRIQ
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lowrape/reading/reanimatedIQ
Joe Pa clearly didn't know about it
Joe Pa can't rape, too old
Joe Pa is clearly a reanimated corpse
A few pages back bucket used the phrase "finish them" in reference to Mark Emmert punishing Penn State with NCAA penalties. I took that to mean that he wanted a youtube video of a battle between Mark Emmert and Penn State, Mortal Kombat style. So here you go bucket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzMB0oJ9Hhg&feature=youtu.be
A few pages back bucket used the phrase "finish them" in reference to Mark Emmert punishing Penn State with NCAA penalties. I took that to mean that he wanted a youtube video of a battle between Mark Emmert and Penn State, Mortal Kombat style. So here you go bucket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzMB0oJ9Hhg&feature=youtu.be
They shouldn't do that to Penn State(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgifsforum.com%2Fimages%2Fgif%2Fwtf%2Fgrand%2Fwill-smith-wtf-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-104.gif&hash=734b0288a5d53c76c32a5459a0da770738faf5da)
Can't wait for you to come to a MOAP party. Keep doing you, rook.omgOk. So I watched this on the phone and couldn't see the players attire. Is this real or a march madness watch party? Cause if it's real... #priceless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YASWRhCXWKY&feature=player_embedded#!
:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
:facepalm:
Hurry up and write a column so I can destroy you.
A few pages back bucket used the phrase "finish them" in reference to Mark Emmert punishing Penn State with NCAA penalties. I took that to mean that he wanted a youtube video of a battle between Mark Emmert and Penn State, Mortal Kombat style. So here you go bucket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzMB0oJ9Hhg&feature=youtu.be
A few pages back bucket used the phrase "finish them" in reference to Mark Emmert punishing Penn State with NCAA penalties. I took that to mean that he wanted a youtube video of a battle between Mark Emmert and Penn State, Mortal Kombat style. So here you go bucket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzMB0oJ9Hhg&feature=youtu.be
A few pages back bucket used the phrase "finish them" in reference to Mark Emmert punishing Penn State with NCAA penalties. I took that to mean that he wanted a youtube video of a battle between Mark Emmert and Penn State, Mortal Kombat style. So here you go bucket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzMB0oJ9Hhg&feature=youtu.be
This is it. This is the one that's gonna take goEMAW to the top. Somebody get this on EDSBS immediately.
_33, you really need to add some tags to that video. I mean the college football world is dying to search Penn State videos, but how will they get to it if they can only get there by searching "mortal kombat"?
A few pages back bucket used the phrase "finish them" in reference to Mark Emmert punishing Penn State with NCAA penalties. I took that to mean that he wanted a youtube video of a battle between Mark Emmert and Penn State, Mortal Kombat style. So here you go bucket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzMB0oJ9Hhg&feature=youtu.be
This is it. This is the one that's gonna take goEMAW to the top. Somebody get this on EDSBS immediately.
The second I saw it I knew it'd go places.
A few pages back bucket used the phrase "finish them" in reference to Mark Emmert punishing Penn State with NCAA penalties. I took that to mean that he wanted a youtube video of a battle between Mark Emmert and Penn State, Mortal Kombat style. So here you go bucket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzMB0oJ9Hhg&feature=youtu.be
A few pages back bucket used the phrase "finish them" in reference to Mark Emmert punishing Penn State with NCAA penalties. I took that to mean that he wanted a youtube video of a battle between Mark Emmert and Penn State, Mortal Kombat style. So here you go bucket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzMB0oJ9Hhg&feature=youtu.be
How has this not made it to Everyday?
How has this not made it to Everyday?
Does anyone know the best avenue for submitting stuff there? It's not super clear on their website, at least that I could see.
How has this not made it to Everyday?
Does anyone know the best avenue for submitting stuff there? It's not super clear on their website, at least that I could see.
It's there. It's in the Curious Index from this morning. It's a one word link so it's hard to find at first.
How has this not made it to Everyday?
Does anyone know the best avenue for submitting stuff there? It's not super clear on their website, at least that I could see.
It's there. It's in the Curious Index from this morning. It's a one word link so it's hard to find at first.
I like it when they post it really big and talk about how awesome the site is. We have Q3 earnings to think about.
How has this not made it to Everyday?
Does anyone know the best avenue for submitting stuff there? It's not super clear on their website, at least that I could see.
It's there. It's in the Curious Index from this morning. It's a one word link so it's hard to find at first.
I like it when they post it really big and talk about how awesome the site is. We have Q3 earnings to think about.
I twitteringed it to them and nothing. :embarrassed:
Bosco is sitting at Wahoo saying to the bartender (he is drinking water) there is no way our tucks/fans would support Snyder the way PSU's have for Joe Pa. Not the same level of hero worship...
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(CNN) -- Penn State's legal battles continued Wednesday with the university's primary general liability insurer filing a motion claiming coverage should be denied because the administration failed to disclose what it knew about former coach Jerry Sandusky's behavior, according to legal documents.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/25/us/pennsylvania-penn-state-insurer/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/25/us/pennsylvania-penn-state-insurer/index.html?hpt=hp_t3)Quote(CNN) -- Penn State's legal battles continued Wednesday with the university's primary general liability insurer filing a motion claiming coverage should be denied because the administration failed to disclose what it knew about former coach Jerry Sandusky's behavior, according to legal documents.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/25/us/pennsylvania-penn-state-insurer/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/25/us/pennsylvania-penn-state-insurer/index.html?hpt=hp_t3)Quote(CNN) -- Penn State's legal battles continued Wednesday with the university's primary general liability insurer filing a motion claiming coverage should be denied because the administration failed to disclose what it knew about former coach Jerry Sandusky's behavior, according to legal documents.
they will win that (not penn state)
Penn State insurer seeks to deny coverage
By Dominique Debucquoy-Dodley, CNN
Penn Staters have embraced the name "#TeamOutlaw" on twitter.
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Penn Staters have embraced the name "#TeamOutlaw" on twitter.
:flush:
what does it mean?
Penn Staters have embraced the name "#TeamOutlaw" on twitter.
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what does it mean?
They're trying to embrace this "The NCAA is trying to hold us down so we'll show them by winning games and eff the h8ers" mindset.
They just don't get it.
A few pages back bucket used the phrase "finish them" in reference to Mark Emmert punishing Penn State with NCAA penalties. I took that to mean that he wanted a youtube video of a battle between Mark Emmert and Penn State, Mortal Kombat style. So here you go bucket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzMB0oJ9Hhg&feature=youtu.be
#TeamOutlaw is as Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) as being #TeamCarsyCoffmanNNNNNope.
they could really avoid a lot of mocking and being confirmed as retards if they'd chosen something like #teampennstateYeah.
they could really avoid a lot of mocking and being confirmed as retards if they'd chosen something like #teampennstateYeah.
This isn't some super sexy crime like a John Dillinger bank robbery with tommy guns, and fedoras and hot rods.
It's an old guy diddling a bunch of little kids.
they could really avoid a lot of mocking and being confirmed as retards if they'd chosen something like #teampennstateYeah.
This isn't some super sexy crime like a John Dillinger bank robbery with tommy guns, and fedoras and hot rods.
It's an old guy diddling a bunch of little kids.
But for some reason they think they are The U from early 90's
Penn Staters have embraced the name "#TeamOutlaw" on twitter.
:flush:
what does it mean?
Penn Staters have embraced the name "#TeamOutlaw" on twitter.
:flush:
what does it mean?
I can only assume it means they are all becoming fans of the XFL Las Vegas Outlaws, featuring He Hate Me.
Looks like they might lose their starting QB to LSU.If the QB keeps his commitment, they could redshirt him this year and just ride the #teamoutlaw BS for this year. Then the next 3 years of the probation will be a build up toward the QB's senior year. I mean, the guy seems somewhat similar to Freeman and he was able to keep what was probably a worse defense from completely destroying our fanbase in a tougher league.
http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2012/07/lsu_football_gets_official_vis.html
They have the number 7 pro style QB coming in as a freshman, so that kid's going to play from the start. 4 years, no redshirt, no bowls.
Looks like they might lose their starting QB to LSU.If the QB keeps his commitment, they could redshirt him this year and just ride the #teamoutlaw BS for this year. Then the next 3 years of the probation will be a build up toward the QB's senior year. I mean, the guy seems somewhat similar to Freeman and he was able to keep what was probably a worse defense from completely destroying our fanbase in a tougher league.
http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2012/07/lsu_football_gets_official_vis.html
They have the number 7 pro style QB coming in as a freshman, so that kid's going to play from the start. 4 years, no redshirt, no bowls.
Excuse me, I now need to vomit.
Looks like they might lose their starting QB to LSU.If the QB keeps his commitment, they could redshirt him this year and just ride the #teamoutlaw BS for this year. Then the next 3 years of the probation will be a build up toward the QB's senior year. I mean, the guy seems somewhat similar to Freeman and he was able to keep what was probably a worse defense from completely destroying our fanbase in a tougher league.
http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2012/07/lsu_football_gets_official_vis.html
They have the number 7 pro style QB coming in as a freshman, so that kid's going to play from the start. 4 years, no redshirt, no bowls.
Excuse me, I now need to vomit.
I still have to imagine they will be crappy even 4 years from now.
In 3-4 years they will be lucky to be .500. Years 4-7 they could be really shitty. Like 2-10 kind of shitty. Maybe they can start restocking some talent during that time frame and get back to bowl eligible by year 9 or 10. This is gonna be a dark decade for Penn State. Gonna be fascinating to watch what with their history and the implications for the big 10.
In 3-4 years they will be lucky to be .500. Years 4-7 they could be really shitty. Like 2-10 kind of shitty. Maybe they can start restocking some talent during that time frame and get back to bowl eligible by year 9 or 10. This is gonna be a dark decade for Penn State. Gonna be fascinating to watch what with their history and the implications for the big 10.
When this stuff first came down, I was inclined to agree. However, watching the fervor of their fans and seeing how their recruits are sticking, I do not think that Penn State will suffer as greatly as many think.
I think that they will be able to get 10-15 D1 quality players from Pennsylvania every year who love the crap out of Penn State, despite the situation. They won't have as much depth as other top programs, but my guess is that they'll have a very competitive starting roster.
I don't know. I have a hard time thinking that quality D1 guys will come to a school that is not able to go to a bowl at all. Kids that do are either:
1. Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
2. diamonds in the rough that can't find anyone else willing to try to polish them
3. Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
Existing players are diff imo. I mean, they can be looked upon as quitters and stuff. Kids that haven't shown up on campus change commitment all the time without the stigma of being a quitter.
I don't know. I have a hard time thinking that quality D1 guys will come to a school that is not able to go to a bowl at all. Kids that do are either:
1. Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
2. diamonds in the rough that can't find anyone else willing to try to polish them
3. Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
Existing players are diff imo. I mean, they can be looked upon as quitters and stuff. Kids that haven't shown up on campus change commitment all the time without the stigma of being a quitter.
How do you explain all their existing recruits sticking? It's amazing.
I don't know. I have a hard time thinking that quality D1 guys will come to a school that is not able to go to a bowl at all. Kids that do are either:
1. Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
2. diamonds in the rough that can't find anyone else willing to try to polish them
3. Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
Existing players are diff imo. I mean, they can be looked upon as quitters and stuff. Kids that haven't shown up on campus change commitment all the time without the stigma of being a quitter.
How do you explain all their existing recruits sticking? It's amazing.
Their strategy of planning a game against Hawaii or something at the end of each regular season could help mitigate the bowl ban. But there's just not a lot of instate talent. And it's easy to see urban Meyer or Brady hoke picking off the best players.
I don't like how the NCAA is only punishing Penn State football. Nothing occurred to give Penn State football a competitive advantage, and the coverup was perpetuated by the athletic department, so why not give similar penalties to all Penn State sports? That would make more sense to me.
Their strategy of planning a game against Hawaii or something at the end of each regular season could help mitigate the bowl ban. But there's just not a lot of instate talent. And it's easy to see urban Meyer or Brady hoke picking off the best players.
Will the Big 10 let them do this? It's not like the SEC where they play a late non-con.
I disagree about the talent in PA. PA is actually a hotbed of talent for college football. Their current roster is over 50% PA, isn't it.
I don't like how the NCAA is only punishing Penn State football. Nothing occurred to give Penn State football a competitive advantage, and the coverup was perpetuated by the athletic department, so why not give similar penalties to all Penn State sports? That would make more sense to me.
I don't like how the NCAA is only punishing Penn State football. Nothing occurred to give Penn State football a competitive advantage, and the coverup was perpetuated by the athletic department, so why not give similar penalties to all Penn State sports? That would make more sense to me.The Freeh reports biggest finding was that Joe Paterno personally scuttled the idea to go to the cops.
Their strategy of planning a game against Hawaii or something at the end of each regular season could help mitigate the bowl ban. But there's just not a lot of instate talent. And it's easy to see urban Meyer or Brady hoke picking off the best players.
Will the Big 10 let them do this? It's not like the SEC where they play a late non-con.
I disagree about the talent in PA. PA is actually a hotbed of talent for college football. Their current roster is over 50% PA, isn't it.
Big 10's got a Saturday set for their 'ship game. Penn State knows it won't be playing in it. They could probably plan a trip to Hawaii that weekend.
I don't like how the NCAA is only punishing Penn State football. Nothing occurred to give Penn State football a competitive advantage, and the coverup was perpetuated by the athletic department, so why not give similar penalties to all Penn State sports? That would make more sense to me.
Because it was the deification of football at Penn State that led to kids continually being raped long after it should've been squashed.
Their strategy of planning a game against Hawaii or something at the end of each regular season could help mitigate the bowl ban. But there's just not a lot of instate talent. And it's easy to see urban Meyer or Brady hoke picking off the best players.
Will the Big 10 let them do this? It's not like the SEC where they play a late non-con.
I disagree about the talent in PA. PA is actually a hotbed of talent for college football. Their current roster is over 50% PA, isn't it.
Big 10's got a Saturday set for their 'ship game. Penn State knows it won't be playing in it. They could probably plan a trip to Hawaii that weekend.
Seems like that would be an issue with the Big 10 network, or is it a loop hole if it's a road non-con game?
I don't like how the NCAA is only punishing Penn State football. Nothing occurred to give Penn State football a competitive advantage, and the coverup was perpetuated by the athletic department, so why not give similar penalties to all Penn State sports? That would make more sense to me.
Because it was the deification of football at Penn State that led to kids continually being raped long after it should've been squashed.
Just for clarification's sake, how long should it take to stop kids from being raped?
I don't like how the NCAA is only punishing Penn State football. Nothing occurred to give Penn State football a competitive advantage, and the coverup was perpetuated by the athletic department, so why not give similar penalties to all Penn State sports? That would make more sense to me.The Freeh reports biggest finding was that Joe Paterno personally scuttled the idea to go to the cops.
I thought Joe Paterno coached football? :dunno:
NK, it's sanctioning football (directly) because it was the culture of football at Penn State that was the root of the problem. The assistant hoops coach wasn't going to be allowed to conduct school-sponsored child rape for nearly a decade, because nobody gives a crap about that team (that we still lost a hoops recruit to :lol:).
Their strategy of planning a game against Hawaii or something at the end of each regular season could help mitigate the bowl ban. But there's just not a lot of instate talent. And it's easy to see urban Meyer or Brady hoke picking off the best players.
Will the Big 10 let them do this? It's not like the SEC where they play a late non-con.
I disagree about the talent in PA. PA is actually a hotbed of talent for college football. Their current roster is over 50% PA, isn't it.
how many 4 stars does alabama have?
I know a guy who goes to Penn State and he's always on FB trying to make it not seem as bad as it is. Lately he's really been pimping this USA swimming scandal or whatever.
http://www.wbal.com/article/92453/12/template-story/USA-Swimming-Scandal-Worse-Than-Penn-State
Oh my!how many 4 stars does alabama have?
Seven 4s and two 5s. Kansas has one 4. Illinois has seven 4s. Neither have any 5s.
Oh my!how many 4 stars does alabama have?
Seven 4s and two 5s. Kansas has one 4. Illinois has seven 4s. Neither have any 5s.
:D
I know a guy who goes to Penn State and he's always on FB trying to make it not seem as bad as it is. Lately he's really been pimping this USA swimming scandal or whatever.
http://www.wbal.com/article/92453/12/template-story/USA-Swimming-Scandal-Worse-Than-Penn-State
:lol: You'll have to do it on a Sunday morning when nobody is expecting it.I know a guy who goes to Penn State and he's always on FB trying to make it not seem as bad as it is. Lately he's really been pimping this USA swimming scandal or whatever.
http://www.wbal.com/article/92453/12/template-story/USA-Swimming-Scandal-Worse-Than-Penn-State
Time to take down that USA swimming coach statue outside of their huge arena.
I don't think football will steal too much of my time with this home schedule:Oh my!how many 4 stars does alabama have?
Seven 4s and two 5s. Kansas has one 4. Illinois has seven 4s. Neither have any 5s.
:D
Just think, you'll be smack dab in the middle of all that talent. Practically swimming in a tepid pool of football studs. How will you ever focus on your studies, young Dlew? You better rough ridin' buckle down.
is that schedule free with a valid student ID?I don't think football will steal too much of my time with this home schedule:Oh my!how many 4 stars does alabama have?
Seven 4s and two 5s. Kansas has one 4. Illinois has seven 4s. Neither have any 5s.
:D
Just think, you'll be smack dab in the middle of all that talent. Practically swimming in a tepid pool of football studs. How will you ever focus on your studies, young Dlew? You better rough ridin' buckle down.
09/01/12 vs. Western Michigan MEMORIAL STADIUM 11:00 a.m. CT
09/15/12 vs. Charleston Southern MEMORIAL STADIUM 11:00 a.m. CT
09/22/12 vs. Louisiana Tech MEMORIAL STADIUM 7:00 p.m. CT
09/29/12 vs. Penn State (Foundation Day) * MEMORIAL STADIUM TBA
10/27/12 vs. Indiana (Homecoming) * MEMORIAL STADIUM 11:00 a.m. CT
11/10/12 vs. Minnesota (Dad's Day) * MEMORIAL STADIUM TBA
11/17/12 vs. Purdue * MEMORIAL STADIUM TBA
I mean, just what the hell is that?
I don't think football will steal too much of my time with this home schedule:Oh my!how many 4 stars does alabama have?
Seven 4s and two 5s. Kansas has one 4. Illinois has seven 4s. Neither have any 5s.
:D
Just think, you'll be smack dab in the middle of all that talent. Practically swimming in a tepid pool of football studs. How will you ever focus on your studies, young Dlew? You better rough ridin' buckle down.
09/01/12 vs. Western Michigan MEMORIAL STADIUM 11:00 a.m. CT
09/15/12 vs. Charleston Southern MEMORIAL STADIUM 11:00 a.m. CT
09/22/12 vs. Louisiana Tech MEMORIAL STADIUM 7:00 p.m. CT
09/29/12 vs. Penn State (Foundation Day) * MEMORIAL STADIUM TBA
10/27/12 vs. Indiana (Homecoming) * MEMORIAL STADIUM 11:00 a.m. CT
11/10/12 vs. Minnesota (Dad's Day) * MEMORIAL STADIUM TBA
11/17/12 vs. Purdue * MEMORIAL STADIUM TBA
I mean, just what the hell is that?
Christ, Washburn get's either Pitt State or Northwest. Saul's got better tix than Dlew.FTR, I'm not getting tix. Just getting 'pak'd at tailgates and going to a game with my family when they come in town.
I don't think football will steal too much of my time with this home schedule:Oh my!how many 4 stars does alabama have?
Seven 4s and two 5s. Kansas has one 4. Illinois has seven 4s. Neither have any 5s.
:D
Just think, you'll be smack dab in the middle of all that talent. Practically swimming in a tepid pool of football studs. How will you ever focus on your studies, young Dlew? You better rough ridin' buckle down.
09/01/12 vs. Western Michigan MEMORIAL STADIUM 11:00 a.m. CT
09/15/12 vs. Charleston Southern MEMORIAL STADIUM 11:00 a.m. CT
09/22/12 vs. Louisiana Tech MEMORIAL STADIUM 7:00 p.m. CT
09/29/12 vs. Penn State (Foundation Day) * MEMORIAL STADIUM TBA
10/27/12 vs. Indiana (Homecoming) * MEMORIAL STADIUM 11:00 a.m. CT
11/10/12 vs. Minnesota (Dad's Day) * MEMORIAL STADIUM TBA
11/17/12 vs. Purdue * MEMORIAL STADIUM TBA
I mean, just what the hell is that?
If I was there, I'd want to see #TeamOutlaw.
I've been to one game there...the band was enjoyable. I don't know how much has changed with the NCAA's hate for racial mascots. CHIEEEEEEF!!!
I've been to one game there...the band was enjoyable. I don't know how much has changed with the NCAA's hate for racial mascots. CHIEEEEEEF!!!
Basically the same sans one rough ridin' idiot prancing around making a fool of himself in earnest.
I don't think football will steal too much of my time with this home schedule:Oh my!how many 4 stars does alabama have?
Seven 4s and two 5s. Kansas has one 4. Illinois has seven 4s. Neither have any 5s.
:D
Just think, you'll be smack dab in the middle of all that talent. Practically swimming in a tepid pool of football studs. How will you ever focus on your studies, young Dlew? You better rough ridin' buckle down.
09/01/12 vs. Western Michigan MEMORIAL STADIUM 11:00 a.m. CT
09/15/12 vs. Charleston Southern MEMORIAL STADIUM 11:00 a.m. CT
09/22/12 vs. Louisiana Tech MEMORIAL STADIUM 7:00 p.m. CT
09/29/12 vs. Penn State (Foundation Day) * MEMORIAL STADIUM TBA
10/27/12 vs. Indiana (Homecoming) * MEMORIAL STADIUM 11:00 a.m. CT
11/10/12 vs. Minnesota (Dad's Day) * MEMORIAL STADIUM TBA
11/17/12 vs. Purdue * MEMORIAL STADIUM TBA
I mean, just what the hell is that?
I've been to one game there...the band was enjoyable. I don't know how much has changed with the NCAA's hate for racial mascots. CHIEEEEEEF!!!
Basically the same sans one rough ridin' idiot prancing around making a fool of himself in earnest.
My neighbors took me to this game and told me all about their hatred for LSU fans (it was the year after they went to the Sugar Bowl). :cheers:
I've been to one game there...the band was enjoyable. I don't know how much has changed with the NCAA's hate for racial mascots. CHIEEEEEEF!!!
Basically the same sans one rough ridin' idiot prancing around making a fool of himself in earnest.
My neighbors took me to this game and told me all about their hatred for LSU fans (it was the year after they went to the Sugar Bowl). :cheers:
Those guys were a bunch of (seemingly) inbred assholes. Stumbling around randomly yelling out "tiger bite," but pronouncing it "taugha bauht." It's tough to bring yourself to hate retardeds, but I mananged it.
Dear Mr. Bread.
You were wrong. It was Tiger Bait. That's what they yell. Sorry. I still like you though, T's & P's.
Signed,
LouisianaSkinny
Is this what you mean?
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8240385/penn-state-nittany-lions-trustees-appeal-ncaa-vow-federal-lawsuit
I don't think football will steal too much of my time with this home schedule:Oh my!how many 4 stars does alabama have?
Seven 4s and two 5s. Kansas has one 4. Illinois has seven 4s. Neither have any 5s.
:D
Just think, you'll be smack dab in the middle of all that talent. Practically swimming in a tepid pool of football studs. How will you ever focus on your studies, young Dlew? You better rough ridin' buckle down.
09/01/12 vs. Western Michigan MEMORIAL STADIUM 11:00 a.m. CT
09/15/12 vs. Charleston Southern MEMORIAL STADIUM 11:00 a.m. CT
09/22/12 vs. Louisiana Tech MEMORIAL STADIUM 7:00 p.m. CT
09/29/12 vs. Penn State (Foundation Day) * MEMORIAL STADIUM TBA
10/27/12 vs. Indiana (Homecoming) * MEMORIAL STADIUM 11:00 a.m. CT
11/10/12 vs. Minnesota (Dad's Day) * MEMORIAL STADIUM TBA
11/17/12 vs. Purdue * MEMORIAL STADIUM TBA
I mean, just what the hell is that?
I'm excited to continue the investigation
I'm excited to continue the investigation
You have to think they're playing a very dangerous game. The NCAA has already basically said that they aren't allowing an appeal, which means they're daring them to file suit.
I think there are people near the inner circle that know that the original sanctions weren't a horrible deal, all things considered. That's why Erickson cut the deal. Now if they're opening up that can of worms again, the NCAA will go at them so hard with every gun drawn.
If this doesn't go Penn State's way, the NCAA will not be merciful.
I'm excited to continue the investigation
You have to think they're playing a very dangerous game. The NCAA has already basically said that they aren't allowing an appeal, which means they're daring them to file suit.
I think there are people near the inner circle that know that the original sanctions weren't a horrible deal, all things considered. That's why Erickson cut the deal. Now if they're opening up that can of worms again, the NCAA will go at them so hard with every gun drawn.
If this doesn't go Penn State's way, the NCAA will not be merciful.
The VAST majority of their bbs'ers were demanding this. Who knows if it is the vast majority of their fans/donors but there will be a lawsuit of some type. They have whipped themselves into such a incredible frenzy that most of them are both convinced that there is no way PSU can lose and have completely forgotten about terrified 8 year old boys being forcibly sodomized by a PSU employee who treated these poor kids like they were his girlfriend. I am all about shining a light on these folks yet again so they can remember what actually happened. And hopefully the more they rabblerabble the more recruits get freaked out by them.
I'm excited to continue the investigation
You have to think they're playing a very dangerous game. The NCAA has already basically said that they aren't allowing an appeal, which means they're daring them to file suit.
I think there are people near the inner circle that know that the original sanctions weren't a horrible deal, all things considered. That's why Erickson cut the deal. Now if they're opening up that can of worms again, the NCAA will go at them so hard with every gun drawn.
If this doesn't go Penn State's way, the NCAA will not be merciful.
The VAST majority of their bbs'ers were demanding this. Who knows if it is the vast majority of their fans/donors but there will be a lawsuit of some type. They have whipped themselves into such a incredible frenzy that most of them are both convinced that there is no way PSU can lose and have completely forgotten about terrified 8 year old boys being forcibly sodomized by a PSU employee who treated these poor kids like they were his girlfriend. I am all about shining a light on these folks yet again so they can remember what actually happened. And hopefully the more they rabblerabble the more recruits get freaked out by them.
Don't know how you treat your girlfriends but I certainly give mine the option.
I'm excited to continue the investigation
You have to think they're playing a very dangerous game. The NCAA has already basically said that they aren't allowing an appeal, which means they're daring them to file suit.
I think there are people near the inner circle that know that the original sanctions weren't a horrible deal, all things considered. That's why Erickson cut the deal. Now if they're opening up that can of worms again, the NCAA will go at them so hard with every gun drawn.
If this doesn't go Penn State's way, the NCAA will not be merciful.
The VAST majority of their bbs'ers were demanding this. Who knows if it is the vast majority of their fans/donors but there will be a lawsuit of some type. They have whipped themselves into such a incredible frenzy that most of them are both convinced that there is no way PSU can lose and have completely forgotten about terrified 8 year old boys being forcibly sodomized by a PSU employee who treated these poor kids like they were his girlfriend. I am all about shining a light on these folks yet again so they can remember what actually happened. And hopefully the more they rabblerabble the more recruits get freaked out by them.
Don't know how you treat your girlfriends but I certainly give mine the option.
I meant the weird notes and freaky affectionate behavior he showed towards these little boys. Not the shower rape.
I'm excited to continue the investigation
You have to think they're playing a very dangerous game. The NCAA has already basically said that they aren't allowing an appeal, which means they're daring them to file suit.
I think there are people near the inner circle that know that the original sanctions weren't a horrible deal, all things considered. That's why Erickson cut the deal. Now if they're opening up that can of worms again, the NCAA will go at them so hard with every gun drawn.
If this doesn't go Penn State's way, the NCAA will not be merciful.
The VAST majority of their bbs'ers were demanding this. Who knows if it is the vast majority of their fans/donors but there will be a lawsuit of some type. They have whipped themselves into such a incredible frenzy that most of them are both convinced that there is no way PSU can lose and have completely forgotten about terrified 8 year old boys being forcibly sodomized by a PSU employee who treated these poor kids like they were his girlfriend. I am all about shining a light on these folks yet again so they can remember what actually happened. And hopefully the more they rabblerabble the more recruits get freaked out by them.
Don't know how you treat your girlfriends but I certainly give mine the option.
I meant the weird notes and freaky affectionate behavior he showed towards these little boys. Not the shower rape.
Oh ya I totally write them weird notes. Many are haiku.
I'm excited to continue the investigation
You have to think they're playing a very dangerous game. The NCAA has already basically said that they aren't allowing an appeal, which means they're daring them to file suit.
I think there are people near the inner circle that know that the original sanctions weren't a horrible deal, all things considered. That's why Erickson cut the deal. Now if they're opening up that can of worms again, the NCAA will go at them so hard with every gun drawn.
If this doesn't go Penn State's way, the NCAA will not be merciful.
The VAST majority of their bbs'ers were demanding this. Who knows if it is the vast majority of their fans/donors but there will be a lawsuit of some type. They have whipped themselves into such a incredible frenzy that most of them are both convinced that there is no way PSU can lose and have completely forgotten about terrified 8 year old boys being forcibly sodomized by a PSU employee who treated these poor kids like they were his girlfriend. I am all about shining a light on these folks yet again so they can remember what actually happened. And hopefully the more they rabblerabble the more recruits get freaked out by them.
Don't know how you treat your girlfriends but I certainly give mine the option.
I meant the weird notes and freaky affectionate behavior he showed towards these little boys. Not the shower rape.
Oh ya I totally write them weird notes. Many are haiku.
do you teach her how to soap up her backside?
To be fair, this is the campus "thread" type place rather than a varneys. But rough ridin' hell.
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To be fair, this is the campus "thread" type place rather than a varneys. But rough ridin' hell.
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I would punch anyone in the face I saw wearing that.
I'll say it.
The Hammer and Sickle looks badass.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jeffrey-ross-comedy-central-roast-sandusky-358375
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jeffrey-ross-comedy-central-roast-sandusky-358375
"I feel like if people don’t like what they’re seeing, they can do what Joe Paterno did – look the other way,"
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jeffrey-ross-comedy-central-roast-sandusky-358375
Too soon
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jeffrey-ross-comedy-central-roast-sandusky-358375
LOLQuote"I feel like if people don’t like what they’re seeing, they can do what Joe Paterno did – look the other way,"
To be fair, this is the campus "thread" type place rather than a varneys. But rough ridin' hell.
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More Boz pics plz, tia.
I say this a lot but the switzer/boz/tubbs era of OU sports was the pinnacle of how much fun you could have as a fan imo. to be an OU student during that run. wow.
How fun was it, Brock Landers?
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I say this a lot but the switzer/boz/tubbs era of OU sports was the pinnacle of how much fun you could have as a fan imo. to be an OU student during that run. wow.
Confession time: I grew up as an OU fan. Sorry, couldn't help it.....early to mid 80's there was no reason to care about KSU football. Plus I was a little kid and didn't know any better. Started following them around 1984 or so, then they won an NC in '85. Was hooked on OU sports for a while before finally coming to my senses.
I say this a lot but the switzer/boz/tubbs era of OU sports was the pinnacle of how much fun you could have as a fan imo. to be an OU student during that run. wow.
Confession time: I grew up as an OU fan. Sorry, couldn't help it.....early to mid 80's there was no reason to care about KSU football. Plus I was a little kid and didn't know any better. Started following them around 1984 or so, then they won an NC in '85. Was hooked on OU sports for a while before finally coming to my senses.
I was sort of in this boat too, but I didn't really follow sports too closely. I remember my football coach in 5th grade (I think this was about 1987) promised to take us all to an OU football game that year and I was all excited....never happened. I probably wouldn't be EMAW today if that had happened back then.
Hits home. :thumbs:I say this a lot but the switzer/boz/tubbs era of OU sports was the pinnacle of how much fun you could have as a fan imo. to be an OU student during that run. wow.
Confession time: I grew up as an OU fan. Sorry, couldn't help it.....early to mid 80's there was no reason to care about KSU football. Plus I was a little kid and didn't know any better. Started following them around 1984 or so, then they won an NC in '85. Was hooked on OU sports for a while before finally coming to my senses.
I was sort of in this boat too, but I didn't really follow sports too closely. I remember my football coach in 5th grade (I think this was about 1987) promised to take us all to an OU football game that year and I was all excited....never happened. I probably wouldn't be EMAW today if that had happened back then.
Might as well rename you fuckers catzacker and let you eff my Canadian friend's sister.
'13 recruit chooses officially not playing in bowl games over likely not playing in bowl games.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8260808/penn-state-nittany-lions-land-defensive-back-jordan-smith-first-recruit-ncaa-sanctions
Joe Posnanski‘s biography on longtime Penn State coach Joe Paterno, titled “Paterno”, will be available in book stores Tuesday, Aug. 21.
Posnanski, a former senior writer for Sports Illustrated, was asked by Paterno last summer to spend the 2011 season writing the book. Then, the Jerry Sandusky scandal happened, and everything changed. Paterno later died in January after a battle with lung cancer.
The current issue of GQ has the a few excerpts from the book — the full preview will be posted on the publication’s website Monday — which you can read below.
Here they are without further comment, courtesy of GQ.com:
Paterno’s son, Scott, reads the grand jury case against Sandusky for the first time:
Scott Paterno was the first in the family to understand that the Pennsylvania grand jury presentment that indicted Jerry Sandusky could end his father’s career. This wasn’t surprising; Scott tended to be the most realistic—or cynical, depending on who you asked—in the family. He had run for Congress and lost and along the way tasted the allure and nastiness of public life. He had worked as a lawyer and as a lobbyist. He would sometimes tell people, “Hey, don’t kid yourself, I’m the bad person of the family.” When Scott read the presentment, he called his father and said, “Dad, you have to face the possibility that you will never coach another game.”
As the Sandusky scandal explodes, the Paterno family hires a high-powered PR specialist, Dan McGinn, to help navigate the storm:
This is when McGinn learned just how far Paterno’s influence and reputation had fallen. He asked [family adviser Guido] D’Elia for the name of one person on the Penn State board of trustees, just one, whom they could reach out to, to negotiate a gracious ending. D’Elia shook his head.
“One person on the board, that’s all we need,” McGinn said.
D’Elia shook his head again. “It began in 2004,” he whispered, referring to an old clash Paterno had with [university president Graham] Spanier. “The board started to turn. We don’t have anybody on the board now.”
That’s when McGinn realized that this was going to be the worst day of Joe Paterno’s professional life.
At Paterno’s house the day after he is fired via late-night telephone call from the Penn State board of trustees:
On Thursday, Paterno met with his coaches at his house. He sobbed uncontrollably. This was his bad day. Later, one of his former captains, Brandon Short, stopped by the house. When Brandon asked, “How are you doing, Coach?” Paterno answered, “I’m okay,” but the last syllable was shaky, muffled by crying, and then he broke down and said, “I don’t know what I’m going to do with myself.” Nobody knew how to handle such emotion. Joe had always seemed invulnerable. On Thursday, though, he cried continually.
“My name,” he told Jay, “I have spent my whole life trying to make that name mean something. And now it’s gone.”
I will read the crap out of it. Although I think it will need an update of some kind or another within the next year or so.
Gary Sinderson of WJACTV is reporting that Jerry Sandusky, currently incarcerated at the Centre County Correctional Facility while awaiting sentencing, is writing his second book from behind bars.
According to the report, Sandusky was initially writing a statement to read before his sentencing (which should occur in the next couple months), but with the help of his wife Dottie, he’s penning his second book.
WJACTV also reports that Sandusky has been taken off suicide watch and is a “model inmate, spending hours quietly in his cell.”
Let’s hope this book has a less ironic title than his first memoir, infamously named “Touched: The Jerry Sandusky Story.”
Sandusky’s book, should it materialize, would surpass Joe Posnanski’s Paterno biography as the most anticipated book release from the scandal, at least for me. And, as WJACTV reports, convicted felons can’t profit from writing about their crimes, so I won’t feel too bad about myself when I shell out the money to buy it.
http://onwardstate.com/2012/08/14/r...book-in-prison/
A witness interviewed by federal authorities in the widening Penn State investigation claims he saw Jerry Sandusky and one of the school's prominent boosters sexually abusing boys on a private plane, RadarOnline.com is reporting exclusively.
The witness was interviewed by the U.S. Postal Inspectors with the FBI present.RadarOnline.com broke the news that a new investigation into a pedophile ring is now being conducted by federal authorities.
And while Postal Inspectors are also trying to determine if Sandusky shared pornography through the mail and sent seductive letters to his victims, the biggest bombshell is the allegation leveled by the witness who was interviewed within the past few weeks.
http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/16/13315914-penn-state-pays-legal-bills-for-accused-ex-officials-but-not-mcqueary?lite (http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/16/13315914-penn-state-pays-legal-bills-for-accused-ex-officials-but-not-mcqueary?lite)
good grief...they simply have no idea how to run a PR department do they?
http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/16/13315914-penn-state-pays-legal-bills-for-accused-ex-officials-but-not-mcqueary?lite (http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/16/13315914-penn-state-pays-legal-bills-for-accused-ex-officials-but-not-mcqueary?lite)
good grief...they simply have no idea how to run a PR department do they?
You do realize that most of their fans blame McQueary more than Sandusky for their current trouble?
Graham Spanier, 65, said he "is in a mode of substantial grief about what happened to those kids," referring to children sexually assaulted by former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky. But Spanier told The New Yorker that he rejected the damning assessment in the Freeh report laying out how university officials failed to stop Sandusky from sexually abusing boys on school property.
"The Freeh report is wrong, it’s unfair, it is deeply flawed, it has many errors and omissions," said Spanier, speaking to New Yorker reporter Jeffrey Toobin. "They interviewed, they say, over four hundred and thirty people; many of those folks have spoken to me about their interviews. Many of them describe those interviews to me as a witch-hunt."
Karma looked a lot like Frank Solich today
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/02/us/pennsylvania-penn-state-lawsuit/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
Go get yours, hero :dubious:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/02/us/pennsylvania-penn-state-lawsuit/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
Go get yours, hero :dubious:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/02/us/pennsylvania-penn-state-lawsuit/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
Go get yours, hero :dubious:
I mean, it's a fair lawsuit, provided everything in it is true. His name is disgraced, who would hire him?
I mean, it's a fair lawsuit, provided everything in it is true. His name is disgraced, who would hire him?
I mean, it's a fair lawsuit, provided everything in it is true. His name is disgraced, who would hire him?
auburn pubes everywhere
I mean, it's a fair lawsuit, provided everything in it is true. His name is disgraced, who would hire him?
People who like gingers. Can you imagine the train wreck that guy's pubic area is what with all the auburn pubes everywhere and the near-translucently white, smallish wiener? On second thought, don't imagine it. It's awful. Like some sort of deep sea worm thrown in a bird's nest of orange hair. :runaway:
I mean, it's a fair lawsuit, provided everything in it is true. His name is disgraced, who would hire him?
People who like gingers. Can you imagine the train wreck that guy's pubic area is what with all the auburn pubes everywhere and the near-translucently white, smallish wiener? On second thought, don't imagine it. It's awful. Like some sort of deep sea worm thrown in a bird's nest of orange hair. :runaway:
Mr Bread, were did you get such intimate knowledge of Gingers. :horrorsurprise:
I mean, it's a fair lawsuit, provided everything in it is true. His name is disgraced, who would hire him?
People who like gingers. Can you imagine the train wreck that guy's pubic area is what with all the auburn pubes everywhere and the near-translucently white, smallish wiener? On second thought, don't imagine it. It's awful. Like some sort of deep sea worm thrown in a bird's nest of orange hair. :runaway:
Mr Bread, were did you get such intimate knowledge of Gingers. :horrorsurprise:
My imagination is both vivid and my enemy.
That's OK Mr Bread, great minds have great imaginations. :cheers:I mean, it's a fair lawsuit, provided everything in it is true. His name is disgraced, who would hire him?
People who like gingers. Can you imagine the train wreck that guy's pubic area is what with all the auburn pubes everywhere and the near-translucently white, smallish wiener? On second thought, don't imagine it. It's awful. Like some sort of deep sea worm thrown in a bird's nest of orange hair. :runaway:
Mr Bread, were did you get such intimate knowledge of Gingers. :horrorsurprise:
My imagination is both vivid and my enemy.
The Word
2m Warren Buss Warren Buss ?@KSUpurple
I think Jerry Sandusky has been punished quite a lot already by being made a social outcast and losing his reputation...
1m Warren Buss ?@KSUpurple
From what I can gather these were things extremely important to him and can never be regained no matter how hard he tries.
14s Warren Buss ?@KSUpurple:horrorsurprise:
I never did think the Sandusky thing was EVER a sports story unless you considering buggering 10 year old boys a sport...
Warren Buss ?@KSUpurple
I hope to NEVER see another Sandusky story again especially on the sports page but it looks like there might be an appeal. :-(
Warren Buss ?@KSUpurple
I also think what the head of the NCAA did to Penn State was very wrong...all the primary figures were gone at that point...
Warren Buss ?@KSUpurple
I don't think Penn State got one leg up by hiding this after all when it came to light they still got a top 20 recruiting class in February.
Warren Buss ?@KSUpurple
It seems the NCAA thought the wrongs committed could be righted by destroying their football program...and I'm certainly no Penn State fan!
man, Warren's great.he is unreal. what a beautiful soul.
http://inamerica.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/05/penn-state-in-spotlight-again-with-sorority-photo-mocking-latinos/?hpt=hp_c2
http://inamerica.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/05/penn-state-in-spotlight-again-with-sorority-photo-mocking-latinos/?hpt=hp_c2
http://inamerica.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/05/penn-state-in-spotlight-again-with-sorority-photo-mocking-latinos/?hpt=hp_c2
Also how do you think ol' Jerry Sandoozle is doing in prison these days?
I have a feeling Paterno won't live much longer. Football was his life.
Dottie Sandusky was joined by filmmaker and Sandusky truther John Ziegler, who runs the website FramingPaterno.com—dedicated to clearing the name of Penn State head football coach Joe Paterno
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All the individuals involved were fired and/or sent prison and/or being sued in civil suits and/or dead. No one at the school now was associated with what happened.I think the Penn State Athletic Dept and it's supporters (the majority of them) would do exactly that. So would Florida State's, KU's, Alabama's, Miami's, Oklahoma's, etc... Hell likely a majority of our fanbase would as well.
The NCAA sanctions were over-the-top and the NCAA realized that.
Why can't people separate the actions of individuals from the entire organization? Unless you think the majority of the organization would have sanctioned the abhorrent actions of a few individuals, which is absurd.
All the individuals involved were fired and/or sent prison and/or being sued in civil suits and/or dead. No one at the school now was associated with what happened.I think the Penn State Athletic Dept and it's supporters (the majority of them) would do exactly that. So would Florida State's, KU's, Alabama's, Miami's, Oklahoma's, etc... Hell likely a majority of our fanbase would as well.
The NCAA sanctions were over-the-top and the NCAA realized that.
Why can't people separate the actions of individuals from the entire organization? Unless you think the majority of the organization would have sanctioned the abhorrent actions of a few individuals, which is absurd.
All the individuals involved were fired and/or sent prison and/or being sued in civil suits and/or dead. No one at the school now was associated with what happened.I think the Penn State Athletic Dept and it's supporters (the majority of them) would do exactly that. So would Florida State's, KU's, Alabama's, Miami's, Oklahoma's, etc... Hell likely a majority of our fanbase would as well.
The NCAA sanctions were over-the-top and the NCAA realized that.
Why can't people separate the actions of individuals from the entire organization? Unless you think the majority of the organization would have sanctioned the abhorrent actions of a few individuals, which is absurd.
I think there are individuals running those places (and maybe ours) that would try and cover it up, but in general the masses would be appalled and want heads to roll.
All the individuals involved were fired and/or sent prison and/or being sued in civil suits and/or dead. No one at the school now was associated with what happened.I think the Penn State Athletic Dept and it's supporters (the majority of them) would do exactly that. So would Florida State's, KU's, Alabama's, Miami's, Oklahoma's, etc... Hell likely a majority of our fanbase would as well.
The NCAA sanctions were over-the-top and the NCAA realized that.
Why can't people separate the actions of individuals from the entire organization? Unless you think the majority of the organization would have sanctioned the abhorrent actions of a few individuals, which is absurd.
I think there are individuals running those places (and maybe ours) that would try and cover it up, but in general the masses would be appalled and want heads to roll.
Where were the appalled general masses at Penn State?
The actions covered up to better the organization. This wasn't the individuals getting in trouble outside of the org and it reflecting poorly on the org. It was the org(at that time). When an organization's president, director, and highest paid employee all take action to do what they believe is in the organizations best interest, the action belongs to the organization.
The actions covered up to better the organization. This wasn't the individuals getting in trouble outside of the org and it reflecting poorly on the org. It was the org(at that time). When an organization's president, director, and highest paid employee all take action to do what they believe is in the organizations best interest, the action belongs to the organization.
I didn't say they didn't deserve anything. I suspect there's more to the story, and there's legal reasons why the NCAA did what they did.
SO the end result is in fact: nothing of consequence happened to Penn State's football program. They got away with it. The program will be back to where it was (or better!) next year (if they have the proper coaching staff).
SO the end result is in fact: nothing of consequence happened to Penn State's football program. They got away with it. The program will be back to where it was (or better!) next year (if they have the proper coaching staff).
Yeah, on their 2nd coach in a post Paterno environment, no post season.
In a social media world people clearly feel the need to prove just how outraged they are again and again, just so everybody knows just how outraged they are.
College kids: known supporters of kiddie rapists because they are bored and stuff.
SO the end result is in fact: nothing of consequence happened to Penn State's football program. They got away with it. The program will be back to where it was (or better!) next year (if they have the proper coaching staff).
Yeah, on their 2nd coach in a post Paterno environment, no post season.
In a social media world people clearly feel the need to prove just how outraged they are again and again, just so everybody knows just how outraged they are.
This is actually an outrage-justified thing, Dax.
so one of the biggest scandals in NCAA history, involving incident children, isn't something to be outraged about? ok dax.
#poorPSU they had to replace a coach who was offered an NFL job, and was able to replace him with an (arguably) top tier candidate.SO the end result is in fact: nothing of consequence happened to Penn State's football program. They got away with it. The program will be back to where it was (or better!) next year (if they have the proper coaching staff).
Yeah, on their 2nd coach in a post Paterno environment, no post season.
In a social media world people clearly feel the need to prove just how outraged they are again and again, just so everybody knows just how outraged they are.
so wait, every single person that had a hand in this isn't at Penn State anymore? lol
They should have gotten whatever death penalty SMU got. It wasn't just individuals that let it happen, it was the culture.Yes.
The actual law of the land provide a whole litany of options.
The NCAA overstepped the mark and they clearly now realize that.
The actual law of the land provide a whole litany of options.
The NCAA overstepped the mark and they clearly now realize that.
If the NCAA overstepped the reach of their rules to punish a program that thought it was a good idea to cover up child rape, I think that's an appropriate step. Why have any rules at all if you can't punish an institution for covering up child rape?
I don't think so. Penn State is a member institution. Most organizations would kick a member out if they were suddenly known as kiddie rape central.
How many scholarships did they lose? Also two or three yrs of bowls.
I mean, was it much worse than if they had players trading tats for jerseys?
I don't think so. Penn State is a member institution. Most organizations would kick a member out if they were suddenly known as kiddie rape central.
Using your logic, I think we should proclaim K-State as abductor (and possibly armed abductor depending on how you want to look at it) central.
Based on CNS logic and the happenings in Arizona in 2003/4 and the way K-State offiicals immediately injected themselves into the legal matter.
We can say K-State is, dare I say it, "Rape Central".
How many scholarships did they lose? Also two or three yrs of bowls.
I mean, was it much worse than if they had players trading tats for jerseys?
How many scholarships did they lose? Also two or three yrs of bowls.
I mean, was it much worse than if they had players trading tats for jerseys?
But the Ohio State situation was a clear violation of NCAA rules and they had a coach who clearly violated the actual letter of actual NCAA rules.
Not the same thing. Why does everyone keep co-mingling this stuff? Fascinating
How many scholarships did they lose? Also two or three yrs of bowls.
I mean, was it much worse than if they had players trading tats for jerseys?
But the Ohio State situation was a clear violation of NCAA rules and they had a coach who clearly violated the actual letter of actual NCAA rules.
Not the same thing. Why does everyone keep co-mingling this stuff? Fascinating
Dax, we understand that the NCAA may have overstepped their jurisdiction a bit. No one is arguing that.
We're arguing that it's a good thing they did and they should have done more. If anything, they should expand their rules to more severely punish schools who try to cover up crimes. Yes, this applies to KSU covering up that abduction with a shotgun and Ell Roberson's visit with the Tempe police.
Based on CNS logic and the happenings in Arizona in 2003/4 and the way K-State offiicals immediately injected themselves into the legal matter.
We can say K-State is, dare I say it, "Rape Central".
I can't wait to hear this.
How many scholarships did they lose? Also two or three yrs of bowls.
I mean, was it much worse than if they had players trading tats for jerseys?
But the Ohio State situation was a clear violation of NCAA rules and they had a coach who clearly violated the actual letter of actual NCAA rules.
Not the same thing. Why does everyone keep co-mingling this stuff? Fascinating
Dax, we understand that the NCAA may have overstepped their jurisdiction a bit. No one is arguing that.
We're arguing that it's a good thing they did and they should have done more. If anything, they should expand their rules to more severely punish schools who try to cover up crimes. Yes, this applies to KSU covering up that abduction with a shotgun and Ell Roberson's visit with the Tempe police.
Sorry, I don't want the NCAA engaged in matters that are almost purely of a legal nature unless it also involved clear and succint violations of NCAA rules in regards to garnering an unfair advantage over other schools. That's what the NCAA is there for. Otherwise you place more arbitrary power in the hands of an already extraordinarily arbitrary organization.
outedBased on CNS logic and the happenings in Arizona in 2003/4 and the way K-State offiicals immediately injected themselves into the legal matter.
We can say K-State is, dare I say it, "Rape Central".
I can't wait to hear this.
Youngster
How many scholarships did they lose? Also two or three yrs of bowls.
I mean, was it much worse than if they had players trading tats for jerseys?
But the Ohio State situation was a clear violation of NCAA rules and they had a coach who clearly violated the actual letter of actual NCAA rules.
Not the same thing. Why does everyone keep co-mingling this stuff? Fascinating
Dax, we understand that the NCAA may have overstepped their jurisdiction a bit. No one is arguing that.
We're arguing that it's a good thing they did and they should have done more. If anything, they should expand their rules to more severely punish schools who try to cover up crimes. Yes, this applies to KSU covering up that abduction with a shotgun and Ell Roberson's visit with the Tempe police.
Sorry, I don't want the NCAA engaged in matters that are almost purely of a legal nature unless it also involved clear and succint violations of NCAA rules in regards to garnering an unfair advantage over other schools. That's what the NCAA is there for. Otherwise you place more arbitrary power in the hands of an already extraordinarily arbitrary organization.
I think harboring a culture that can get away with covering up child rape is an unfair advantage over schools that don't cover up child rape. I mean, it's not exactly an advantage you want to be proud of, but goddam, Penn State would have really been hurt if this news was made public as soon as they knew about it.
That's true, and you know as well as anyone cRusty that all kinds of stuff is/has/will be shoved under the rug at K-State, KU, and just about everybody that's purely only a legal matter. So, now we want the NCAA deciding what sanctions to hand down on matters that are covered under "all other things . . ." language and the ilk?
That's true, and you know as well as anyone cRusty that all kinds of stuff is/has/will be shoved under the rug at K-State, KU, and just about everybody that's purely only a legal matter. So, now we want the NCAA deciding what sanctions to hand down on matters that are covered under "all other things . . ." language and the ilk?
This was far more complicated than "purely only a legal matter".
And yeah if it comes out that we shoved legal stuff under the rug, I think we should be punished by the NCAA. (Or the NCAA should just fold and not hand out any punishments for anything ever again).
They should have gotten whatever death penalty SMU got. It wasn't just individuals that let it happen, it was the culture. And that culture deserved to be killed.
They should have gotten whatever death penalty SMU got. It wasn't just individuals that let it happen, it was the culture. And that culture deserved to be killed.
At the time I would have agreed with that penalty too. A harsh punishment only makes sense if you are punishing the right people though.
Looks like you need to take your bully pulpit over to former U.S. Senator George Mitchell's office cRusty.
1 year post season ban, 2 year loss of scholarship, $60 million dollar fine and ongoing 3rd party monitoring is basically what Penn State got.
the intent all along was for Penn State to be punished and to rehabilitate itself not destroy it permanentlyRight. That's why they didn't receive the death penalty and the bowl ban wasn't permanent.
SO the end result is in fact: nothing of consequence happened to Penn State's football program. They got away with it. The program will be back to where it was (or better!) next year (if they have the proper coaching staff).
Yeah, on their 2nd coach in a post Paterno environment, no post season.
In a social media world people clearly feel the need to prove just how outraged they are again and again, just so everybody knows just how outraged they are.
It's irrational college kids. Nothing more, nothing less. Some were probably just looking to cause trouble just for the sake of causing trouble.
The athletic department is culpable for allowing arguable the most disgusting scandal in NCAA history to happen under its watch.
The way you hold an entire athletic accountable is punitive financial penalties, not a changing of the guard.
The mechanism to do that is post season bans and reductions in scholarships, short of the death penalty (which i really thought should have been brought back)
If the players are hurt by this, they had a free ticket to transfer with no penalty.
If the students are hurt by this, finish your semester and GTFO.
if the staff outside the AD are hurt by this, its a free country, go work somewhere else.
In any just world, the Penn State athletic department deserved every minute of that sanction and then some. Lifting the ban is disgusting. Its in insult to the victims in this tragedy and college athletics as a whole.
it's just hard reading that article and hearing Jay Paterno all red assed about vacated wins for his father that he wants to get restored. it's sickening.
Do you ever think God just looks down on all mankind and :facepalm:?
Do you ever think God just looks down on all mankind and :facepalm:?
It's irrational college kids. Nothing more, nothing less. Some were probably just looking to cause trouble just for the sake of causing trouble.
Just like those rascals in Ferguson
The athletic department is culpable for allowing arguable the most disgusting scandal in NCAA history to happen under its watch.
The way you hold an entire athletic accountable is punitive financial penalties, not a changing of the guard.
The mechanism to do that is post season bans and reductions in scholarships, short of the death penalty (which i really thought should have been brought back)
If the players are hurt by this, they had a free ticket to transfer with no penalty.
If the students are hurt by this, finish your semester and GTFO.
if the staff outside the AD are hurt by this, its a free country, go work somewhere else.
In any just world, the Penn State athletic department deserved every minute of that sanction and then some. Lifting the ban is disgusting. Its in insult to the victims in this tragedy and college athletics as a whole.
I understand it plenty well. And, no, it was not.The athletic department is culpable for allowing arguable the most disgusting scandal in NCAA history to happen under its watch.
The way you hold an entire athletic accountable is punitive financial penalties, not a changing of the guard.
The mechanism to do that is post season bans and reductions in scholarships, short of the death penalty (which i really thought should have been brought back)
If the players are hurt by this, they had a free ticket to transfer with no penalty.
If the students are hurt by this, finish your semester and GTFO.
if the staff outside the AD are hurt by this, its a free country, go work somewhere else.
In any just world, the Penn State athletic department deserved every minute of that sanction and then some. Lifting the ban is disgusting. Its in insult to the victims in this tragedy and college athletics as a whole.
So is $60 million dollars in fines enough? Because that's what the NCAA levied on Penn State.
It appears from your post that you don't even really understand the sanctions that were levied against Penn State.
I'm not sure any penalty could punish those weirdos into normal fans again. It's like a cult.
Post what you think would happen at KSU if this whole saga had happened here with Snyder in the Paterno role.
Post what you think would happen at KSU if this whole saga had happened here with Snyder in the Paterno role.
I suppose you would hope that your administration isn't as inherently corrupt and takes care of business when it should.
Post what you think would happen at KSU if this whole saga had happened here with Snyder in the Paterno role.
I suppose you would hope that your administration isn't as inherently corrupt and takes care of business when it should.
No time travel.
I'm talking more about the fan reaction if it came out now that years ago, Snyder swept something like this under an old Vanier rug.
Post what you think would happen at KSU if this whole saga had happened here with Snyder in the Paterno role.
I suppose you would hope that your administration isn't as inherently corrupt and takes care of business when it should.
No time travel.
I'm talking more about the fan reaction if it came out now that years ago, Snyder swept something like this under an old Vanier rug.
Post what you think would happen at KSU if this whole saga had happened here with Snyder in the Paterno role.
Post what you think would happen at KSU if this whole saga had happened here with Snyder in the Paterno role.
Post what you think would happen at KSU if this whole saga had happened here with Snyder in the Paterno role.
Under the Wefald/Krause/Weiser regime I think it would have been pretty much the same as Penn State, and I assume there is plenty of trash under that rug, anyway. I think it is quite possible that the only thing that prevented the same thing from happenning at Ksu is that del miller isn't a pedophile.
I have more faith in Schulz/Currie but mostly because they were not a part of (and do not crave the credit for) building Ksu football so they would be more apt to blow the whistle that would tarnish the program.
Currie is looking for a kid in Sean's trashcan right now
Trim has been engaging in actual football conversations as of late, and it's kind of weirding me out.
snyder already had a curtain call
I didn't know it was PSU's version of Varneys' blog site that scooped the penalty reduction. Wow!
http://psu.lions-pride.com/2014/09/mitchell-reportsanctions-update-004.html
http://www.lions-pride.com/info/about-us
As much as I hate the new media's "this one line from this one document says one word therefore everyone knew everything at that exact moment in time", all these people should be tortured and then sent to hell.Totally couldn't be a continuing system of abuse reaching to the highest levels and a lasting cover up. Yep, nothing to see here, just one dude rough ridin' kids, no one else to blame.
https://twitter.com/pennlive/status/728361269804273664
I don't care about his legacy, but it would be easier to swallow if there really was just Sandusky behind everything. Don't think that's true at all tho.https://twitter.com/pennlive/status/728361269804273664
I really wanted to believe that all this really came to a head when Joe Pa was too old and infirmed to really grasp what was going on. :(
As much as I hate the new media's "this one line from this one document says one word therefore everyone knew everything at that exact moment in time", all these people should be tortured and then sent to hell.Totally couldn't be a continuing system of abuse reaching to the highest levels and a lasting cover up. Yep, nothing to see here, just one dude rough ridin' kids, no one else to blame.
I don't care about his legacy, but it would be easier to swallow if there really was just Sandusky behind everything. Don't think that's true at all tho.https://twitter.com/pennlive/status/728361269804273664
I really wanted to believe that all this really came to a head when Joe Pa was too old and infirmed to really grasp what was going on. :(
I don't understand, and never will, how people could have seen it in person and just walked away. I'm not some violent tough guy, I assure you, but I'm pretty sure I'd punt some guy's head if he were doing something with a kid and I saw it.
The Catholic Church allowed this kind of thing to happen on a much larger scale and crap tons of people turned a blind eye.The whole lot of them were assholes, various sizes, but definitely assholes.
The Catholic Church allowed this kind of thing to happen on a much larger scale and crap tons of people turned a blind eye.I'm not sure what the point of this post is, the Catholic church was and continues to be publicly ridiculed over that. As they should.
The Catholic Church allowed this kind of thing to happen on a much larger scale and crap tons of people turned a blind eye.I'm not sure what the point of this post is, the Catholic church was and continues to be publicly ridiculed over that. As they should.
I can't believe Joe Posnanski as a journalist didn't catch any wind of any of this while he was writing his bio/memoir about Joe Paterno.
It's times like this that I wish I believed in Hell. If I did, I'd be hoping that Paterno was there and really not enjoying himself.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/07/12/joe-paterno-knew-of-jerry-sandusky-abuse-in-1976-per-testimony-in-newly-unsealed-records/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/07/12/joe-paterno-knew-of-jerry-sandusky-abuse-in-1976-per-testimony-in-newly-unsealed-records/
Paterno was a rough ridin' piece of crap.
good for local guy here imo
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/penn-states-scapegoat-in-sandusky-saga-finally-gets-some-redemption-against-university-010857452.html
The affidavit said Sandusky told the alleged victim in texts in March that "it's not weird because he studied medicine" and instructed her "to not show these texts to anyone."
Burn Penn State down to the ground.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/03/30/penn-state-trustee-running-out-sympathy/99826214/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/03/30/penn-state-trustee-running-out-sympathy/99826214/)
Burn Penn State down to the ground.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/03/30/penn-state-trustee-running-out-sympathy/99826214/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/03/30/penn-state-trustee-running-out-sympathy/99826214/)
Running for re-election for his alumni selected seat. 5 people are running for 3 spots. No doubt he'll get it now. The voting results will be very telling of the fanbase. I expect him to be the highest vote getter.