Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse

["storm"nut]

I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.

The DOE can go after PSU for not complying with laws regarding the reciept of federal education funds and the reporting of sexual abuse statistics.  Aren't these the laws they are using to procecute the UP & AD?

This - There is also a law in place about having to report crimes committed on campus and failure to do so could cause them to lose there accreditation and the ability for the school to accept federal student loan money.

[Dugout DickStone]

I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.

The DOE can go after PSU for not complying with laws regarding the reciept of federal education funds and the reporting of sexual abuse statistics.  Aren't these the laws they are using to procecute the UP & AD?

This - There is also a law in place about having to report crimes committed on campus and failure to do so could cause them to lose there accreditation and the ability for the school to accept federal student loan money.

Seems like they still could do this, no?

My take is the NCAA had to step in and slap down the football program.  This was a football issue, no matter how many times they say otherwise.  If it were a physics professor they would have turned him in.  End of story.  The only outfit that can punish the football program is the NCAA.  You can't throw a football program in jail.  The NCAA has made the PSU football program hundreds of millions, they can expect to take a hit when they protected a serial child molestor.  You take the good with the bad with the NCAA.

Civil suits alone won't likely do this because the nutty alumni will just go into fund raising overdrive and pay off the suits.  The Catholic church hasn't gone anywhere....

[TheHamburglar]

I think I found the worst, most insensitive PSU statement yet.  Someone on their Rivals premium board started a thread titled:

"I now know what if feels like to be abused..."

[WillieWatanabe]

  literal

[Cire]

lol

[Dugout DickStone]

  <---- PSU students

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

Please keep us posted on what perverted things the GPC guys have to say about this picture...

I'm going to say it has to do with an "O-face"

[Dugout DickStone]

Please keep us posted on what perverted things the GPC guys have to say about this picture...

I'm going to say it has to do with an "O-face"

I would expect some type of ratings...

[Dub]

I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.

The DOE can go after PSU for not complying with laws regarding the reciept of federal education funds and the reporting of sexual abuse statistics.  Aren't these the laws they are using to procecute the UP & AD?

This - There is also a law in place about having to report crimes committed on campus and failure to do so could cause them to lose there accreditation and the ability for the school to accept federal student loan money.

Maybe I'm wrong here but none of these incidents were charged as crimes at the time so how could they report them?

[Dugout DickStone]

I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.

The DOE can go after PSU for not complying with laws regarding the reciept of federal education funds and the reporting of sexual abuse statistics.  Aren't these the laws they are using to procecute the UP & AD?

This - There is also a law in place about having to report crimes committed on campus and failure to do so could cause them to lose there accreditation and the ability for the school to accept federal student loan money.

Maybe I'm wrong here but none of these incidents were charged as crimes at the time so how could they report them?

I will try to not be a dick but, seriously?

Pretty sure nutcase shooting up the Dark Knight hadn't been charged either but they sure as hell called the cops.

["storm"nut]

I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.

The DOE can go after PSU for not complying with laws regarding the reciept of federal education funds and the reporting of sexual abuse statistics.  Aren't these the laws they are using to procecute the UP & AD?

This - There is also a law in place about having to report crimes committed on campus and failure to do so could cause them to lose there accreditation and the ability for the school to accept federal student loan money.

Maybe I'm wrong here but none of these incidents were charged as crimes at the time so how could they report them?

Just because someone is not charged (Sandusky was charged and convicted of incidents that occurred on University Property) does not mean a crime goes unreported. The bear crap in the woods, it still makes a smell.

[Dugout DickStone]

Welp, MU fans claiming Pinkel supported proven child rape supporter Joe Paterno only so he could better recruit the potential transfers.

Do they not understand this guy has never even won the Big 12?

[TheHamburglar]

Please keep us posted on what perverted things the GPC guys have to say about this picture...

I'm going to say it has to do with an "O-face"

I'll drop that picture over there and report back.

[Dub]

I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.

The DOE can go after PSU for not complying with laws regarding the reciept of federal education funds and the reporting of sexual abuse statistics.  Aren't these the laws they are using to procecute the UP & AD?

This - There is also a law in place about having to report crimes committed on campus and failure to do so could cause them to lose there accreditation and the ability for the school to accept federal student loan money.

Maybe I'm wrong here but none of these incidents were charged as crimes at the time so how could they report them?

Just because someone is not charged (Sandusky was charged and convicted of incidents that occurred on University Property) does not mean a crime goes unreported. The bear crap in the woods, it still makes a smell.

Sandusky has been charged now so those rape incidents will now be added to sexual abuse statistics.  The university has to report crimes, but it wouldn't have done so up until now without even a report or conviction.  What I'm saying is the DOE probably doesn't have a leg to stand on with federal money and reporting statistics.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

Please keep us posted on what perverted things the GPC guys have to say about this picture...

I'm going to say it has to do with an "O-face"

I'll drop that picture over there and report back.

 

["storm"nut]

I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.

The DOE can go after PSU for not complying with laws regarding the reciept of federal education funds and the reporting of sexual abuse statistics.  Aren't these the laws they are using to procecute the UP & AD?

This - There is also a law in place about having to report crimes committed on campus and failure to do so could cause them to lose there accreditation and the ability for the school to accept federal student loan money.

Maybe I'm wrong here but none of these incidents were charged as crimes at the time so how could they report them?

Just because someone is not charged (Sandusky was charged and convicted of incidents that occurred on University Property) does not mean a crime goes unreported. The bear crap in the woods, it still makes a smell.

Sandusky has been charged now so those rape incidents will now be added to sexual abuse statistics.  The university has to report crimes, but it wouldn't have done so up until now without even a report or conviction.  What I'm saying is the DOE probably doesn't have a leg to stand on with federal money and reporting statistics.

Your not getting it, These incidents should have been reported by the people in power long before they were reported. The hid the crimes committed on there campus from every one. The fact that we now know does not make it legal that they failed to report it in the past. You sound like a Penn State fan.

[Dub]

I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.

The DOE can go after PSU for not complying with laws regarding the reciept of federal education funds and the reporting of sexual abuse statistics.  Aren't these the laws they are using to procecute the UP & AD?

This - There is also a law in place about having to report crimes committed on campus and failure to do so could cause them to lose there accreditation and the ability for the school to accept federal student loan money.

Maybe I'm wrong here but none of these incidents were charged as crimes at the time so how could they report them?

Just because someone is not charged (Sandusky was charged and convicted of incidents that occurred on University Property) does not mean a crime goes unreported. The bear crap in the woods, it still makes a smell.

Sandusky has been charged now so those rape incidents will now be added to sexual abuse statistics.  The university has to report crimes, but it wouldn't have done so up until now without even a report or conviction.  What I'm saying is the DOE probably doesn't have a leg to stand on with federal money and reporting statistics.

Your not getting it, These incidents should have been reported by the people in power long before they were reported. The hid the crimes committed on there campus from every one. The fact that we now know does not make it legal that they failed to report it in the past. You sound like a Penn State fan.

I understand what your saying and no I'm not a Penn State fan.  All I'm saying is I highly doubt the DOE comes in and takes away federal money to the university once the president is charged. 

[TheHamburglar]

Sandusky has been charged now so those rape incidents will now be added to sexual abuse statistics.  The university has to report crimes, but it wouldn't have done so up until now without even a report or conviction.  What I'm saying is the DOE probably doesn't have a leg to stand on with federal money and reporting statistics.

I don't know the statue, but I would bet a large portion of money that said statue contains a clause against university officials knowing about alledge abuse and not reporting it to the proper authorities with the intent of covering it up. 

[OK_Cat]

if only we had a 70 page thread to talk about this!

[Stevesie60]

The QB in Paterno's last official win was Mike McQueary.

[ChiComCat]

DOE is not going to eff with money that effects random students' education because the President/Football team were asshats.

["storm"nut]

I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.

The DOE can go after PSU for not complying with laws regarding the reciept of federal education funds and the reporting of sexual abuse statistics.  Aren't these the laws they are using to procecute the UP & AD?

This - There is also a law in place about having to report crimes committed on campus and failure to do so could cause them to lose there accreditation and the ability for the school to accept federal student loan money.

Maybe I'm wrong here but none of these incidents were charged as crimes at the time so how could they report them?

Just because someone is not charged (Sandusky was charged and convicted of incidents that occurred on University Property) does not mean a crime goes unreported. The bear crap in the woods, it still makes a smell.

Sandusky has been charged now so those rape incidents will now be added to sexual abuse statistics.  The university has to report crimes, but it wouldn't have done so up until now without even a report or conviction.  What I'm saying is the DOE probably doesn't have a leg to stand on with federal money and reporting statistics.

Your not getting it, These incidents should have been reported by the people in power long before they were reported. The hid the crimes committed on there campus from every one. The fact that we now know does not make it legal that they failed to report it in the past. You sound like a Penn State fan.

I understand what your saying and no I'm not a Penn State fan.  All I'm saying is I highly doubt the DOE comes in and takes away federal money to the university once the president is charged.

http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/2011/may/27/dept-education-cites-yale-underreporting-crime-sex/

Something like this will happen but much much worse

[Brock Landers]

The QB in Paterno's last official win was Mike McQueary.

Circle of Life, indeed.

[Dub]

I am not sure it is the Dept of Education's or DOJ's "job" to punish PSU football program.

The DOE can go after PSU for not complying with laws regarding the reciept of federal education funds and the reporting of sexual abuse statistics.  Aren't these the laws they are using to procecute the UP & AD?

This - There is also a law in place about having to report crimes committed on campus and failure to do so could cause them to lose there accreditation and the ability for the school to accept federal student loan money.

Maybe I'm wrong here but none of these incidents were charged as crimes at the time so how could they report them?

Just because someone is not charged (Sandusky was charged and convicted of incidents that occurred on University Property) does not mean a crime goes unreported. The bear crap in the woods, it still makes a smell.

Sandusky has been charged now so those rape incidents will now be added to sexual abuse statistics.  The university has to report crimes, but it wouldn't have done so up until now without even a report or conviction.  What I'm saying is the DOE probably doesn't have a leg to stand on with federal money and reporting statistics.

Your not getting it, These incidents should have been reported by the people in power long before they were reported. The hid the crimes committed on there campus from every one. The fact that we now know does not make it legal that they failed to report it in the past. You sound like a Penn State fan.

I understand what your saying and no I'm not a Penn State fan.  All I'm saying is I highly doubt the DOE comes in and takes away federal money to the university once the president is charged.

http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/2011/may/27/dept-education-cites-yale-underreporting-crime-sex/

Something like this will happen but much much worse

I hope that it does, I just think it would be a heck of a case.  The president tried covering his ass by delegating Clery act duties to the university's CPO in 1991, but didn't provide adequate training.  The DOE could use that along with he's in a leadership role anyway so he should have made sure it was reported.  They are probably waiting until the president gets charged to move on anything.

[michigancat]

Isn't the NCAA just a club that can just kick people out if they feel like? I don't see how the government could have any jurisdiction over their membership policies, beyond ensuring they are non-discriminatory.