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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1675 on: July 23, 2012, 08:49:52 AM »

Yeah they will Dobber, they already put over 100,000 in the stands now, and consistently did that even when they had pretty mediocre teams.
That is partly because the fans had the belief that the new recruits were going to be able to turn it around. When PSU starts getting giddy over 2 and 3* recruits, I don't think they will be able to consistently put 80 in the stands.

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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1676 on: July 23, 2012, 08:51:00 AM »
oh boy.
this is great.
i've been waiting so long for the dax - slimz faceoff 2012

sit back and relax kids b/c this one is going all 12 rounds.  GO CATS.


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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1677 on: July 23, 2012, 08:51:19 AM »
If I plead guilty to a crime and agree to the punishment, can my wife file a lawsuit against the judgement?

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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1678 on: July 23, 2012, 08:52:47 AM »
Yeah Penn State agreed to the ruling I guess . . . were probably coerced into signing, but the only actual NCAA rules giving the NCAA authority here is some very cryptic, open ended language in the LOIC guidelines/rules.

You're not very smart if you don't think that Penn State wouldn't have a leg to stand on in a court of law if they choose to do so.

Thanks Slimz, you win the Captain Obvious Award of the day.

You showed me, dax. Thanks for your excellent legal analysis.

Your legal analysis consisted of saying people can file lawsuits and the courts can decide if they have merit.   Brilliant.

You said lawyers could make a great case that the NCAA overstepped its authority. I pointed out that Penn State granted the NCAA authority to impose these sanctions by signing the consent decree and that alumni would have difficulty proving they have standing (a determination made after a lawsuit is filed) to challenge the sanctions. You replied that Alabama alums have sued the NCAA. I agreed that anyone can file a lawsuit, but that doesn't mean it has merit (going back to your original assertion of a "great case"). You then suggested Penn State was coerced and started the personal attacks.

I was looking to provide information, not get in a personal argument. Sorry I spoke up.


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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1679 on: July 23, 2012, 08:53:02 AM »
810 Saying they might wave scholarship limit for any school accepting Penn State players!   :excited:

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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1680 on: July 23, 2012, 08:54:25 AM »
Yeah it will be high theater because a good set of lawyers could easily make a great case that the NCAA has way over stepped their authority.

And any lawyer would destroy idiot alumni on standing, let alone getting to do more discovery on the 25 years of child rape that the school assisted in.

The alumni would get just wrecked

You're wrong, LSOC. Penn State was coerced into accepting these sanctions, and Alabama alums sued the NCAA before, so the lawsuit floodgates ARE NOW OPEN!

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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1681 on: July 23, 2012, 08:55:50 AM »
What about PSU alum?  Like can we hire them?  If we do, should we worry about them raping us?  :ohno:

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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1682 on: July 23, 2012, 08:57:34 AM »
810 Saying they might wave scholarship limit for any school accepting Penn State players!   :excited:

OPEN SEASON!

The most people are saying on twitter now is that you can go over your 85 man limit this year by adding PSU players, you can add PSU players and go over your 25 initial for this year, but you must count anyone taken in against your 25 initial limit for next year. 
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« Reply #1683 on: July 23, 2012, 08:57:47 AM »
Maybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties?  You can't just disregard policies and process.  The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state.  Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.

What precedent is there to criminal actions, such as in the case at hand, taken with the intent to bolster an NCAA program?  That's what we have here.  We have perhaps the most heinous crimes on earth, covered up, to preserve the standing of an NCAA program.

How on earth does that fail to fall within area in which the NCAA can act? 

Penn State can still play football outside of the NCAA.  They can still stage football events at their 80K stadium.  The NCAA is merely saying that if you choose to wantonly fail to report child rape to protect the image of your program, then you have to pay if you still want to be in the NCAA.



Don't like it?  Leave the NCAA.  Problem solved.

yeah, get all that.  just questioning whether the ncaa is the correct authoritative body to hand down punishment for this.  seems like a court (civil or criminal) and possibly the DOE should be.  I just kind of want it to come from a different organization than the one that said "oh, well, ya know, auburn and cam didn't really break any rules, cause, like Cam didn't know and stuff."

Well the CIA isn't getting involved and a civil court may tap their money but the football team churns along as if no children were raped.

don't disagree with the punishment (or that the institution should be punished), just disagree with the body handing it down.

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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1684 on: July 23, 2012, 08:58:18 AM »
Yeah it will be high theater because a good set of lawyers could easily make a great case that the NCAA has way over stepped their authority.

And any lawyer would destroy idiot alumni on standing, let alone getting to do more discovery on the 25 years of child rape that the school assisted in.

The alumni would get just wrecked

You're wrong, LSOC. Penn State was coerced into accepting these sanctions, and Alabama alums sued the NCAA before, so the lawsuit floodgates ARE NOW OPEN!

Good point.  I will be proven wrong when the PSU alumni lawsuits are filed and survive MTDs.

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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1685 on: July 23, 2012, 08:58:26 AM »
The NCAA has historically doubled down any time the NCAA believes an institution and its representatives have made things more difficult for the NCAA to impose their will.




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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1686 on: July 23, 2012, 08:59:52 AM »
Nice hyperbole Slimz . . . no surprise, who said anything about "floodgates"?

That's right, no one.




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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1687 on: July 23, 2012, 09:01:01 AM »
810 Saying they might wave scholarship limit for any school accepting Penn State players!   :excited:

OPEN SEASON!

For this season only you can essentially take them as walk-ons who are actually on scholarship. After this year they are just like any other transfer.

Do you think we'll honestly end up with any of PSU's players?
I think what my friend Mitch is trying to say is that true love is blind.

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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1688 on: July 23, 2012, 09:01:19 AM »
Dax, can any alum prove that NCAA action has caused "harm" to them. Not being able to watch football because your team sucks does not constitute harm.
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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1689 on: July 23, 2012, 09:01:36 AM »
man dax can get real insufferable sometimes


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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1690 on: July 23, 2012, 09:02:31 AM »
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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1691 on: July 23, 2012, 09:03:21 AM »
jfc.
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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1692 on: July 23, 2012, 09:03:33 AM »
810 Saying they might wave scholarship limit for any school accepting Penn State players!   :excited:

OPEN SEASON!


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« Reply #1693 on: July 23, 2012, 09:03:58 AM »
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I think what my friend Mitch is trying to say is that true love is blind.

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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1694 on: July 23, 2012, 09:04:24 AM »
lol at anyone that thinks we'll get a single penn state player.

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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1695 on: July 23, 2012, 09:05:30 AM »
lol at anyone that thinks we'll get a single penn state player.

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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1696 on: July 23, 2012, 09:07:50 AM »
The Penn State fanbase is huge and comprised of more T-Shirt fans than entire T-Shirt fanbase of the old Big 12 North put together.   They're insane and rank right below the insanity that is the Ohio State fan base.   Both of which give the top insane fanbases of the SEC a run for their money.


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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1697 on: July 23, 2012, 09:08:32 AM »
Who do we have coming in next year that is any good? Keep him, and then get 24 Penn State players.

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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1698 on: July 23, 2012, 09:08:48 AM »
lol at anyone that thinks we'll get a single penn state player.

we're going to get a ton of penn st players.  scheme doctor knew all of this was coming thats why he said nice things about paterno b/c he was silently recruiting the players back then.


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Re: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse
« Reply #1699 on: July 23, 2012, 09:09:55 AM »
Old Ballz knew all along that something like this was going to happen. THIS is why he never carried 85 scholarship athletes.
All other NCAA D1 schools, you have been SCHEMED!