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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #825 on: October 26, 2016, 01:24:04 PM »
I'd like to add the right to have a chalk-free driveway.

Like if you catch kids writing on your driveway, you could sue their parents for the $0.25 worth of water it takes to rinse the chalk off?

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #826 on: October 26, 2016, 01:32:46 PM »
I'd like to add the right to have a chalk-free driveway.

Like if you catch kids writing on your driveway, you could sue their parents for the $0.25 worth of water it takes to rinse the chalk off?

Like it would not be illegal to run over someone who is sitting in my driveway writing on it with chalk.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #827 on: October 26, 2016, 01:34:41 PM »
I don't think you would get much support for that one, Mrs. Gooch. Too many breeders out there.   :frown:

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #828 on: October 26, 2016, 01:35:39 PM »
If someone infringes on your right to life then you can shoot them. Same thing (if a chalk-free driveway was a right).

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« Reply #829 on: October 26, 2016, 01:37:18 PM »
Big Chalk will throw a lot of money against that one.  No way it passes.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #830 on: October 26, 2016, 01:37:31 PM »
If someone infringes on your right to life then you can shoot them. Same thing (if a chalk-free driveway was a right).

Well, yeah. I just don't think you would ever get your amendment passed. I think maybe if you made it something like "right to have a pet" and then chained a pitbull in your front yard where it could reach the driveway to just kill the kids writing on it, you'd have a better chance.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #831 on: October 26, 2016, 01:44:50 PM »
I mean, my god, imagine saying SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED to your HOA when you are putting up your brand new basketball goal. We don't have enough rights, really.

HOA's are voluntary contracts
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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #832 on: October 26, 2016, 01:48:18 PM »
Why is God in this conversation all. Maybe we humans should learn to live in harmony with the other animals that inhabit this beautiful Earth instead of killing because populations are too high? How is a population too high? Will nature not correct this? Does man need to determine how many animals are allowed to live? eff all that mess. If a deer totals your car, tough crap. Mountain lion mauls your kid, tough crap. Nature running it's course.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #833 on: October 26, 2016, 01:49:43 PM »
Why is God in this conversation all. Maybe we humans should learn to live in harmony with the other animals that inhabit this beautiful Earth instead of killing because populations are too high? How is a population too high? Will nature not correct this? Does man need to determine how many animals are allowed to live? eff all that mess. If a deer totals your car, tough crap. Mountain lion mauls your kid, tough crap. Nature running it's course.

Humans killing animals isn't nature running it's course?
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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #834 on: October 26, 2016, 01:51:00 PM »
I mean, my god, imagine saying SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED to your HOA when you are putting up your brand new basketball goal. We don't have enough rights, really.

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« Reply #835 on: October 26, 2016, 01:51:06 PM »
Yeah, humans are part of nature.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #836 on: October 26, 2016, 01:52:10 PM »
I mean, my god, imagine saying SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED to your HOA when you are putting up your brand new basketball goal. We don't have enough rights, really.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #837 on: October 26, 2016, 01:53:50 PM »
The problem is that populations get too big and the there is a drought or a bad winter storm and 90 percent can be wiped out by starvation or disease and many animals suffer.  Science supports their control. 

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« Reply #838 on: October 26, 2016, 02:23:45 PM »
If someone infringes on your right to life then you can shoot them. Same thing (if a chalk-free driveway was a right).
You don't have the right to shoot people who infringe on your rights, not sure where this is coming from.

This whole conversation is getting very silly.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #839 on: October 26, 2016, 03:15:21 PM »
I, for one, would like to see an amendment that allows me to kill more than 2 turkeys in the Spring.  I mean, how are those two birds going to keep me in turkey until the fall season?
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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #840 on: October 26, 2016, 03:17:56 PM »
should be right to take wildlife rather than hunt, fish and trap.  there's no logical reason to permit humans to kill raccoons but not to catch them and keep them as pets.  either we were given dominion or we weren't.
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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #841 on: October 26, 2016, 03:18:41 PM »
I, for one, would like to see an amendment that allows me to kill more than 2 turkeys in the Spring.  I mean, how are those two birds going to keep me in turkey until the fall season?

Is there a way for me to transfer my two turkey allotment to you?

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #842 on: October 26, 2016, 03:29:01 PM »
I, for one, would like to see an amendment that allows me to kill more than 2 turkeys in the Spring.  I mean, how are those two birds going to keep me in turkey until the fall season?


Is there a way for me to transfer my two turkey allotment to you?


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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #843 on: October 26, 2016, 03:29:29 PM »
I, for one, would like to see an amendment that allows me to kill more than 2 turkeys in the Spring.  I mean, how are those two birds going to keep me in turkey until the fall season?

Yep, if there is one thing keeping the KS hunter down, it's the antiquated turkey tag limits.   :curse:

I mean, I see like a bagillion turkey daily.

Also, new conspiracy theory:  When I was first hunting like almost 30yrs ago, pheasant and quail were awesome but you never saw a turkey.  Now they are exactly opposite where we hunt.  WTF?  Is KS in the pocket of Big Turkey?  Are the Turks terrorizing the other birds?

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #844 on: October 26, 2016, 03:45:23 PM »
I, for one, would like to see an amendment that allows me to kill more than 2 turkeys in the Spring.  I mean, how are those two birds going to keep me in turkey until the fall season?

Yep, if there is one thing keeping the KS hunter down, it's the antiquated turkey tag limits.   :curse:

I mean, I see like a bagillion turkey daily.

Also, new conspiracy theory:  When I was first hunting like almost 30yrs ago, pheasant and quail were awesome but you never saw a turkey.  Now they are exactly opposite where we hunt.  WTF?  Is KS in the pocket of Big Turkey?  Are the Turks terrorizing the other birds?

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Basically those trees that were little 30 years ago are now 30 years older and bigger and can support animals like turkeys and then varmints that prey on game bird eggs (like raccoons and possums and such).

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #845 on: October 26, 2016, 03:52:35 PM »
Pheasants are illegal immigrants from China

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #846 on: October 26, 2016, 04:05:50 PM »
Were trees smaller 30 years ago?  i mean, i can't speak for the arboreal state of KS before my birth, but i think they had trees back then too.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #847 on: October 26, 2016, 04:21:02 PM »
Pheasants are illegal immigrants from China

Why do you think us Kansans are out there trying to kill them?

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #848 on: October 26, 2016, 04:23:29 PM »
Were trees smaller 30 years ago?  i mean, i can't speak for the arboreal state of KS before my birth, but i think they had trees back then too.

Well, yeah.  I mean, especially where we hunted quail.  I don't think the turkeys were just biding their time until a few more trees grew.   :dunno:

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #849 on: October 26, 2016, 04:36:20 PM »
Unrelated to the current discussion......but I am totally stoked that we have a resurgence of quail in our area.  We also have eleventy-billion turkeys in our area too.
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