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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #500 on: September 16, 2011, 02:54:09 PM »
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CANDIDATES    TOTAL ADDED REVENUE ESTIMATE
     
Texas    $101,369,004
Rutgers    WITH NYC    $67,798,609
Nebraska    $54,487,990
Maryland    $50,818,889
Boston College    $48,382,692
Notre Dame    $47,629,255
Kansas    $46,320,092
Missouri    $45,901,459
Syracuse    $43,504,813
Connecticut    $38,080,271
Pittsburgh    $34,365,175
Iowa State    $31,831,077
     
Syracuse  WITH NYC    $65,874,573




When the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts... or in this case, just flat-out deny everything. 


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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #501 on: September 16, 2011, 03:05:38 PM »
Looks like iowa state has nothing to worry about.

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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #502 on: September 16, 2011, 03:06:44 PM »
Ben thinks Frank the Tank is a more reliable source than the NCAA.





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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #503 on: September 16, 2011, 03:08:01 PM »
I like to imagine that Frank the Tank is the guy popping out of the tank in the KSTATEO poster.

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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #504 on: September 16, 2011, 03:08:40 PM »
Notre Dame:  All but one football game broadcast nationally (TV) on ESPN/ABC/NBC.   Football games broadcast (Radio) on 150 stations in 30 states and in 33 of the top 35 media markets in the United States.  78.7 million Catholics in the United States.  

ku:  3 Regionally broadcast football games (TV).   Also broadcast on 32 radio stations in Kansas covering 1 of the Top 35 media markets in the United States.  350,000 alumni.  

(FYI . . . on the radio side ku and Notre Dame use the same partner, I wonder why they couldn't sell ku in the same markets Notre Dame is in?)  

Conference Media Value:  Equal (Per Patrick-Television Insider via Frank the Tank Blog).

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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #505 on: September 16, 2011, 03:09:50 PM »
What I don't think you guys understand about those numbers is they're estimated ADDED REVENUE to a specific conference.  Notre Dame brings in a lot of TV revenue for themselves, but that would likely change if they went from being an Independent to sharing revenue within a conference like the Big 10.  Hell, KU football has more recent success than Notre Dame does.

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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #506 on: September 16, 2011, 03:12:05 PM »
K-State would change the name of their university to Lew Perkins State if he had brought you guys a national championship and a BCS Bowl.  God, I love it.


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Would kill a drifter for this so yes, i guess I'd be okay with them renaming the university in his honor and me staying out of jail.


Would take.  Every Man A Lew Perkins     :love:

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« Reply #507 on: September 16, 2011, 03:14:06 PM »
Wow.  Seth Davis says KU and K-State inseparably attached at the hip and both clinging to the same life raft.

What a bitter pill to swallow for both Kansas schools.  Good thing we've got our brother's shoulder to cry on and vice versa.




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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #508 on: September 16, 2011, 03:14:17 PM »
Notre Dame:  All but one football game broadcast nationally (TV) on ESPN/ABC/NBC.   Football games broadcast (Radio) on 150 stations in 30 states and in 33 of the top 35 media markets in the United States.  78.7 million Catholics in the United States.  

ku:  3 Regionally broadcast football games (TV).   Also broadcast on 32 radio stations in Kansas covering 1 of the Top 35 media markets in the United States.  350,000 alumni.  

(FYI . . . on the radio side ku and Notre Dame use the same partner, I wonder why they couldn't sell ku in the same markets Notre Dame is in?)  

Conference Media Value:  Equal (Per Patrick-Television Insider via Frank the Tank Blog).

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Well, given this info we can easily say KU = ND

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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #509 on: September 16, 2011, 03:15:34 PM »
What I don't think you guys understand about those numbers is they're estimated ADDED REVENUE to a specific conference.  Notre Dame brings in a lot of TV revenue for themselves, but that would likely change if they went from being an Independent to sharing revenue within a conference like the Big 10.  Hell, KU football has more recent success than Notre Dame does.

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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #510 on: September 16, 2011, 03:17:27 PM »
What I don't think you guys understand about those numbers is they're estimated ADDED REVENUE to a specific conference.  Notre Dame brings in a lot of TV revenue for themselves, but that would likely change if they went from being an Independent to sharing revenue within a conference like the Big 10.  Hell, KU football has more recent success than Notre Dame does.

2010:
Notre Dame - 8-5, Sun Bowl in which they beat Miami 33-17
KU - 3-9, 1-7 in conference play, Sunflower Showdown in which they lost to Kansas State 59-7

2009:
Notre Dame - 6-6
KU - 5-7, 1-7 in conference play


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« Reply #511 on: September 16, 2011, 03:19:12 PM »
The circle jerk over Notre Dame is just priceless.  The same Notre Dame that hasn't won a national title since '88 and up until recently had a bowl losing streak of nine games.  This isn't 1974, fellas.  Schools like Texas, Ohio State, and Florida eclipsed Notre Dame a long time ago.  


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« Reply #512 on: September 16, 2011, 03:20:22 PM »
If ku were to bring that much added revenue than you would think conferences would be begging ku to join them, but what was that the Lew Perkins told Seth Davis again, "We had talks with other schools, but we were never offered the opportunity to go to another conference,"  he said. "I thought our basketball would drive us a little bit more, but I wasn't angry about it or even disappointed. It just reinforced the importance of football."

Translation:  Nobody was interested.   Multiple conferences would shoot off their testicles to have Notre Dame, so why wouldn't they want a school that according to Patrick-Television Insider basically brings the same revenue numbers??   :lol:




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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #513 on: September 16, 2011, 03:22:14 PM »
The circle jerk over Notre Dame is just priceless.  The same Notre Dame that hasn't won a national title since '88 and up until recently had a bowl losing streak of nine games.  This isn't 1974, fellas.  Schools like Texas, Ohio State, and Florida eclipsed Notre Dame a long time ago.  


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Who is talking about NC's?  I thought this was about rev?


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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #514 on: September 16, 2011, 03:22:31 PM »
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« Reply #515 on: September 16, 2011, 03:22:48 PM »
The circle jerk over Notre Dame is just priceless.  The same Notre Dame that hasn't won a national title since '88 and up until recently had a bowl losing streak of nine games.  This isn't 1974, fellas.  Schools like Texas, Ohio State, and Florida eclipsed Notre Dame a long time ago.  


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Yet 11 of their 12 football games are slated for national broadcast and they are on the radio in 32 more major media markets than ku is.   :lol:

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« Reply #516 on: September 16, 2011, 03:22:55 PM »
What I don't think you guys understand about those numbers is they're estimated ADDED REVENUE to a specific conference.  Notre Dame brings in a lot of TV revenue for themselves, but that would likely change if they went from being an Independent to sharing revenue within a conference like the Big 10.  Hell, KU football has more recent success than Notre Dame does.

2010:
Notre Dame - 8-5, Sun Bowl in which they beat Miami 33-17
KU - 3-9, 1-7 in conference play, Sunflower Showdown in which they lost to Kansas State 59-7

2009:
Notre Dame - 6-6
KU - 5-7, 1-7 in conference play




Wow... 8-5 and 6-6 in the past two years.  KU has a 12-1, top 10, Orange Bowl season along with an 8-5 Insight Bowl season just in the past four years.  Notre Dame has never even won a BCS Bowl.  Like I said, more recent success.  


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« Reply #517 on: September 16, 2011, 03:23:50 PM »
If ku were to bring that much added revenue than you would think conferences would be begging ku to join them, but what was that the Lew Perkins told Seth Davis again, "We had talks with other schools, but we were never offered the opportunity to go to another conference,"  he said. "I thought our basketball would drive us a little bit more, but I wasn't angry about it or even disappointed. It just reinforced the importance of football."

Translation:  Nobody was interested.   Multiple conferences would shoot off their testicles to have Notre Dame, so why wouldn't they want a school that according to Patrick-Television Insider basically brings the same revenue numbers??   :lol:





Don't use logic on Ben. He literally can not comprehend it.

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« Reply #518 on: September 16, 2011, 03:24:52 PM »
What I don't think you guys understand about those numbers is they're estimated ADDED REVENUE to a specific conference.  Notre Dame brings in a lot of TV revenue for themselves, but that would likely change if they went from being an Independent to sharing revenue within a conference like the Big 10.  Hell, KU football has more recent success than Notre Dame does.

2010:
Notre Dame - 8-5, Sun Bowl in which they beat Miami 33-17
KU - 3-9, 1-7 in conference play, Sunflower Showdown in which they lost to Kansas State 59-7

2009:
Notre Dame - 6-6
KU - 5-7, 1-7 in conference play




Wow... 8-5 and 6-6 in the past two years.  KU has a 12-1, top 10, Orange Bowl season along with an 8-5 Insight Bowl season just in the past four years.  Notre Dame has never even won a BCS Bowl.  Like I said, more recent success.  


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They've won 6 games more than KU in the past two years, but you guys have more success?

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« Reply #519 on: September 16, 2011, 03:28:00 PM »
If ku were to bring that much added revenue than you would think conferences would be begging ku to join them, but what was that the Lew Perkins told Seth Davis again, "We had talks with other schools, but we were never offered the opportunity to go to another conference,"  he said. "I thought our basketball would drive us a little bit more, but I wasn't angry about it or even disappointed. It just reinforced the importance of football."

Translation:  Nobody was interested.   Multiple conferences would shoot off their testicles to have Notre Dame, so why wouldn't they want a school that according to Patrick-Television Insider basically brings the same revenue numbers??   :lol:







The Big East already has a spot reserved for KU (and K-State) and is having wet dreams over the prospect of increasing their football revenue and becoming an even more dominant powerhouse in men's basketball.  

The Pac 12 and ACC have both been in contact with KU and could quite possibly end up adding KU if the dominoes fall right.  

On top of that, no other conference is going to come out and specifically start naming the schools that they're interested in.  The only school that is officially in the process of changing conferences is A&M.  Everything else has been pure speculation and rumors, and KU has had plenty of discussion lately in that regard.  

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« Reply #520 on: September 16, 2011, 03:28:14 PM »
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« Reply #521 on: September 16, 2011, 03:29:10 PM »
Would love to land in the BE and have KU land in the ACC or PAC.


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« Reply #522 on: September 16, 2011, 03:30:36 PM »
The circle jerk over Notre Dame is just priceless.  The same Notre Dame that hasn't won a national title since '88 and up until recently had a bowl losing streak of nine games.  This isn't 1974, fellas.  Schools like Texas, Ohio State, and Florida eclipsed Notre Dame a long time ago.  


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Yet 11 of their 12 football games are slated for national broadcast and they are on the radio in 32 more major media markets than ku is.   :lol:



And again, all of that money doesn't go to the conference.  A lot of it goes directly to Notre Dame.  This is about adding conference revenue.  


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« Reply #523 on: September 16, 2011, 03:31:32 PM »
Schools like Texas, Ohio State, and Florida eclipsed Notre Dame a long time ago.  

And ku is flying damn close to the sun.

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« Reply #524 on: September 16, 2011, 03:31:50 PM »
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