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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #325 on: September 15, 2011, 06:55:09 PM »
KU has a better basketball program :dunno:
KU doesn't just have a better basketball program... they have a top five basketball program that draws national interest.  KU also owns a majority of a relatively large TV market in Kansas City.  KU is solid academically and is a member of the AAU.  We have a larger alumni base than K-State and a larger athletic budget.  I mean these are simply facts that you can't argue against.  Outside of programs like Texas and Notre Dame, KU is right up there when it comes to bringing additional revenue to another conference.  

Clearly you need something to break this down for you because you're not getting it.

1. Kansas City is an okay market that nobody is banging down the doors to get. Mizzou would give it to you (with St. Louis) and K-State would give it to you as well.
2. Being a member of the AAU means nothing to any conference other than the Big Ten and it may mean nothing since they knew Nebraska was going to lose its membership.
3. KU is average academically.
4. KU's large athletic budget (which doesn't really exist) means nothing. How does your budget make a conference money?
5. Your basketball program is almost meaningless. The only time it is going to enter the conversation is if a conference can only take one of the Kansas schools. Your basketball program is the tiebreaker between K-State/KU. That's all it is.
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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #326 on: September 15, 2011, 07:01:04 PM »
KU has a better basketball program :dunno:
KU doesn't just have a better basketball program... they have a top five basketball program that draws national interest.  KU also owns a majority of a relatively large TV market in Kansas City.  KU is solid academically and is a member of the AAU.  We have a larger alumni base than K-State and a larger athletic budget.  I mean these are simply facts that you can't argue against.  Outside of programs like Texas and Notre Dame, KU is right up there when it comes to bringing additional revenue to another conference.  

Clearly you need something to break this down for you because you're not getting it.

1. Kansas City is an okay market that nobody is banging down the doors to get. Mizzou would give it to you (with St. Louis) and K-State would give it to you as well.
2. Being a member of the AAU means nothing to any conference other than the Big Ten and it may mean nothing since they knew Nebraska was going to lose its membership.
3. KU is average academically.
4. KU's large athletic budget (which doesn't really exist) means nothing. How does your budget make a conference money?
5. Your basketball program is almost meaningless. The only time it is going to enter the conversation is if a conference can only take one of the Kansas schools. Your basketball program is the tiebreaker between K-State/KU. That's all it is.

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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #327 on: September 15, 2011, 07:01:46 PM »
Boy if ku doesn't end up in Big 10 Ben is going to look like a fool.

Not as much as Frank (the Tank).

I feel like Frank (the Tank) has established a track record of accuracy.

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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #328 on: September 15, 2011, 07:05:49 PM »
KU has a better basketball program :dunno:
KU doesn't just have a better basketball program... they have a top five basketball program that draws national interest.  KU also owns a majority of a relatively large TV market in Kansas City.  KU is solid academically and is a member of the AAU.  We have a larger alumni base than K-State and a larger athletic budget.  I mean these are simply facts that you can't argue against.  Outside of programs like Texas and Notre Dame, KU is right up there when it comes to bringing additional revenue to another conference.  

Clearly you need something to break this down for you because you're not getting it.

1. Kansas City is an okay market that nobody is banging down the doors to get. Mizzou would give it to you (with St. Louis) and K-State would give it to you as well.
2. Being a member of the AAU means nothing to any conference other than the Big Ten and it may mean nothing since they knew Nebraska was going to lose its membership.
3. KU is average academically.
4. KU's large athletic budget (which doesn't really exist) means nothing. How does your budget make a conference money?
5. Your basketball program is almost meaningless. The only time it is going to enter the conversation is if a conference can only take one of the Kansas schools. Your basketball program is the tiebreaker between K-State/KU. That's all it is.

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Me too, pike. Whenever someone with very few posts goes on a thumbs-up rant like this (very rare) I feel like the kids at the end of Little Rascals must have felt when Uh-Huh expresses his large vocabulary for the first time.

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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #329 on: September 15, 2011, 07:07:28 PM »
Yeah, it's clear that this guy had no idea what he was talking about with regards to Big 10 expansion:


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(3) If the Big Ten wants to make a ton of TV money, it will invite Nebraska – I’ve been increasingly become more and more supportive of Nebraska joining the Big Ten lately and Patrick’s analysis completely sealed it.  Nebraska’s small market be damned – the Husker fan base is as rabid as any other in the country and they will tune in anytime, anywhere.  (If you were wondering, the photo at the top of this post is evidence of how Nebraska fans completely took over South Bend a few years ago when they played Notre Dame.)  In fact, Patrick’s figures mean that we should remove Nebraska from the realm of “Well, they might be coming instead of Missouri” or “They’re a good back-up if Notre Dame doesn’t want to join” and put the Cornhuskers into the “lock” category instead.  I will now officially be shocked if Big Ten expansion occurs without Nebraska involved.


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« Reply #330 on: September 15, 2011, 07:09:13 PM »
The KU academics angle is your most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) talking point, its just as easy for any dumbass to get into ku as it is k-state.

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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #331 on: September 15, 2011, 07:10:46 PM »
Yeah, it's clear that this guy had no idea what he was talking about with regards to Big 10 expansion:


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(3) If the Big Ten wants to make a ton of TV money, it will invite Nebraska – I’ve been increasingly become more and more supportive of Nebraska joining the Big Ten lately and Patrick’s analysis completely sealed it.  Nebraska’s small market be damned – the Husker fan base is as rabid as any other in the country and they will tune in anytime, anywhere.  (If you were wondering, the photo at the top of this post is evidence of how Nebraska fans completely took over South Bend a few years ago when they played Notre Dame.)  In fact, Patrick’s figures mean that we should remove Nebraska from the realm of “Well, they might be coming instead of Missouri” or “They’re a good back-up if Notre Dame doesn’t want to join” and put the Cornhuskers into the “lock” category instead.  I will now officially be shocked if Big Ten expansion occurs without Nebraska involved.


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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #332 on: September 15, 2011, 07:12:10 PM »
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« Reply #333 on: September 15, 2011, 07:12:43 PM »
Largest TV markets:

1    New York
2    Los Angeles
3    Chicago
4    Philadelphia
5    Dallas-Ft. Worth
6    San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose
7    Boston
8    Atlanta
9    Washington, DC
10    Houston
11    Detroit
12    Phoenix
13    Tampa-St. Petersburg
14    Seattle-Tacoma
15    Minneapolis-St. Paul
16    Miami-Ft.Lauderdale
17    Cleveland-Akron
18    Denver
19    Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne
20    Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto
21    St. Louis
22    Portland, OR
23    Pittsburgh
24    Charlotte, NC
25    Indianapolis
26    Baltimore
27    Raleigh-Durham
28    San Diego
29    Nashville
30    Hartford-New Haven
31    Kansas City
32    Columbus, OH
33    Salt Lake City
34    Cincinnati
35    Milwaukee
36    Greenville-Spartanburg-Asheville-Anderson
37    San Antonio
38    West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce
39    Grand Rapids-Kalamazoo-Battle Creek
40    Birmingham
41    Harrisburg-Lancaster-Lebanon-York
42    Las Vegas
43    Norfolk-Portsmouth-Newport News
44    Albuquerque-Santa Fe
45    Oklahoma City
46    Greensboro-High Point-Winston-Salem
47    Jacksonville, FL
48    Memphis
49    Austin
50    Louisville



The level of denial on this board in regards to KU being a more attractive option than K-State is just staggering.  Just accept the fact K-State's best hope of coming out okay in conference realignment is to firmly attach yourselves to KU's nut sack and hang on for dear life.  The facts have been regurgitated over and over again, and you still can't see the light.  It's the exact reason why I left this shithole of a board, and will probably leave for good once I create a new sock for phog.net.

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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #334 on: September 15, 2011, 07:13:56 PM »
The 31st largest TV market, and it's split like 6 ways

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« Reply #335 on: September 15, 2011, 07:14:24 PM »
 :lol:

Right between New Haven and Colombus. 'grats, Beems!!!

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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #336 on: September 15, 2011, 07:14:29 PM »
The KU academics angle is your most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) talking point, its just as easy for any dumbass to get into ku as it is k-state.



Look, butthurt hayseed, being an AAU member helps KU in regards to conference expansion.  It's why K-State will never be considered for the Big 10.  

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« Reply #337 on: September 15, 2011, 07:14:57 PM »
:lol:
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« Reply #338 on: September 15, 2011, 07:15:26 PM »
The level of denial on this board in regards to KU being a more attractive option than K-State is just staggering.  Just accept the fact K-State's best hope of coming out okay in conference realignment is to firmly attach yourselves to KU's nut sack and hang on for dear life.  The facts have been regurgitated over and over again, and you still can't see the light.  It's the exact reason why I left this shithole of a board, and will probably leave for good once I create a new sock for phog.net.

WILL PROBABLY LEAVE FOR GOOD

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« Reply #339 on: September 15, 2011, 07:15:32 PM »

The level of denial on this board in regards to KU being a more attractive option than K-State is just staggering.  Just accept the fact K-State's best hope of coming out okay in conference realignment is to firmly attach yourselves to KU's nut sack and hang on for dear life.  The facts have been regurgitated over and over again, and you still can't see the light.  It's the exact reason why I left this shithole of a board, and will probably leave for good once I create a new sock for phog.net.

What will this be, about the seventh or eighth "for good this time"?
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« Reply #340 on: September 15, 2011, 07:16:38 PM »
once I create a new sock for phog.net.

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« Reply #341 on: September 15, 2011, 07:17:21 PM »
You're right, I should have never come back.  This place is a cesspool of low self esteem butthurt hayseeds who cheer for one of the worst athletic programs in the country.  I feel sorry for you guys, honestly.  

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« Reply #342 on: September 15, 2011, 07:17:34 PM »

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« Reply #344 on: September 15, 2011, 07:18:05 PM »
You're right, I should have never come back.  This place is a cesspool of low self esteem butthurt hayseeds who cheer for one of the worst athletic programs in the country.  I feel sorry for you guys, honestly.  

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« Reply #345 on: September 15, 2011, 07:18:57 PM »
bmw,

i feel like we get along well. i don't trash you. i like you here. i hope you stay. why do you keep ignoring my question about why you got banned from phog? i really don't understand and it is kind of hurting my feelings. why?

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« Reply #346 on: September 15, 2011, 07:22:01 PM »
Beems, don't leave until you get everyone here to become ku fans.  I think the goal is within sight.

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« Reply #347 on: September 15, 2011, 07:23:12 PM »
Look, butthurt hayseed, being an AAU member helps KU in regards to conference expansion.  It's why K-State will never be considered for the Big 10.  

here's to hoping expansion comes sooner rather than later!  :cheers:

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« Reply #348 on: September 15, 2011, 07:23:45 PM »
You're right, I should have never come back.  This place is a cesspool of low self esteem butthurt hayseeds who cheer for one of the worst athletic programs in the country.  I feel sorry for you guys, honestly.  
I'll leave out the estro sports cause they should really count anyways

KSU 2009 - 2010
Football bowl game - check
Basketball NCAA tourney - check
Baseball tourney - check

KU?
1-3 isn't bad i guess.

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« Reply #349 on: September 15, 2011, 07:36:49 PM »
KU is right on par with Notre Dame ... when it comes to adding additional conference revenue

seriously rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  I mean you have no concept of how rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) this is.  I'm rough ridin' stunned at how rough ridin' dumb you are.  Honestly you are making KU look bad by claiming to be an educated fan and than posting crap like this.  You make KU look worse than the diploma mill high schools your b-ball recruits go to.




Love the fact you have yet to respond to Dax and I calling out your revenue sources before.  I mean who doesn't think frank the tank's blog and turfburner.com aren't reputable sources. 

Also when was KC's espn ratings the highest in decades?  I seem to recall K-State MADE that happen as KU has had many opportunities and failed.  Face it Beem you keep holding on to KC market when you know deep down inside that you control nothing.  Your T-Shirt fans are one Bill Self recruiting trip away from turning off the TV sets as KU goes on probation again. 
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