phog.net realignment gems

[Dugout DickStone]

man they are so mean.  i like you ku guys why don't you like us?

We 13-1'd them.  I'd be jealous too.

[Panjandrum]

lol I don't understand the 'there is only room for one BCS school in this town' argument.. It makes no sense, if KSU went to the Mountain West how do KU fans think that will suddenly make their football program better ??? Really, the whole thing makes no sense at all..

It's their excuse for not being good at football.

Their excuse for us dominating them in all sports except for basketball is that we steal all of the good recruits.

Uhhhhh....

[sonofdaxjones]

K-State is the only reason why ku even made an attempt to try and be good at football.  Without K-State there is no Mark Mangino, there is no Orange Bowl in 2008.  There's just Glen Mason trying like hell to get out of there, there is no Al Bohl, a guy with an emphasis on football being hired.  There's Dr. Bob hanging on and appeasing basketball all day and night, they slap a new field in Memorial Track, Field and Football stadium every 10 years and call it a major facilities upgrade, while they give Bill Self a new gold platted toilet.

ku fans either didn't pay any attention, or just don't want to remember, but there were actually fans at Texas schools asking why ku was even in the Big 12 back in the early 00's. 

[cummin_CAT]

K-State is the only reason why ku even made an attempt to try and be good at football.  Without K-State there is no Mark Mangino, there is no Orange Bowl in 2008.  There's just Glen Mason trying like hell to get out of there, there is no Al Bohl, a guy with an emphasis on football being hired.  There's Dr. Bob hanging on and appeasing basketball all day and night, they slap a new field in Memorial Track, Field and Football stadium every 10 years and call it a major facilities upgrade, while they give Bill Self a new gold platted toilet.

ku fans either didn't pay any attention, or just don't want to remember, but there were actually fans at Texas schools asking why ku was even in the Big 12 back in the early 00's. 

Yes.  100% this.

[ArchE_Cat]

K-State is the only reason why ku even made an attempt to try and be good at football.  Without K-State there is no Mark Mangino, there is no Orange Bowl in 2008.  There's just Glen Mason trying like hell to get out of there, there is no Al Bohl, a guy with an emphasis on football being hired.  There's Dr. Bob hanging on and appeasing basketball all day and night, they slap a new field in Memorial Track, Field and Football stadium every 10 years and call it a major facilities upgrade, while they give Bill Self a new gold platted toilet.

ku fans either didn't pay any attention, or just don't want to remember, but there were actually fans at Texas schools asking why ku was even in the Big 12 back in the early 00's. 

Terry Allen...clap clap...clap clap clap

[pissclams]

its funny that not only do they want success for themselves but they equally want bad things for us.

[ArchE_Cat]

its funny that not only do they want success for themselves but they equally want bad things for us.

yep. lots of butt hurt over there. also, massive inferiority complex believing they will only succeed if they are the only BCS school in the state....after all the are the mommy ship, i mean flag ship

[pissclams]

K-State is a flagship university in Kansas.

you'll find us about half way down.

USA TODAY's annual survey of tuition and fees at 75 public flagship universities in 50 states looks at figures for first-year, full-time freshmen and includes all mandatory and major-specific fees assessed for students in basic Arts and Sciences programs. Room and board, books and other costs are not included.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2006-08-30-tuition-survey_x.htm

[ArchE_Cat]

K-State is a flagship university in Kansas.

you'll find us about half way down.

USA TODAY's annual survey of tuition and fees at 75 public flagship universities in 50 states looks at figures for first-year, full-time freshmen and includes all mandatory and major-specific fees assessed for students in basic Arts and Sciences programs. Room and board, books and other costs are not included.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2006-08-30-tuition-survey_x.htm

to the phog 

[OregonSmock]

So let me get this straight... everyone on this board honestly believes that KU and K-State are equal in this whole realignment process?  You don't think KU has any advantages over K-State, or that the ACC and Pac 12 wouldn't take KU without K-State?  Interesting. 

[WillieWatanabe]

KU has a better basketball program

[sonofdaxjones]

Nobody said that Beems, per usual, you're reading way to much into it, like most low self esteem ku fans do . . . anything outside of glowing reviews is considered a slight of ku.

Come on man.

[kitten_mittons]

So let me get this straight... everyone on this board honestly believes that KU and K-State are equal in this whole realignment process?  You don't think KU has any advantages over K-State, or that the ACC and Pac 12 wouldn't take KU without K-State?  Interesting. 

I don't even know if K-State has enough pull to get some conference to let KU ride along with us.  I really hope so, though.  I like the rivalry with Kansas.  Maybe we could pay you guys like $250k to come to manhattan for a game every other year when you guys are in the MWC.

[ArchE_Cat]

So let me get this straight... everyone on this board honestly believes that KU and K-State are equal in this whole realignment process?  You don't think KU has any advantages over K-State, or that the ACC and Pac 12 wouldn't take KU without K-State?  Interesting. 

well BU, KU and ISU are the only schools left saying that they will not waive their rights to sue the SEC. KSU and MU aren't commenting. read whatever you want into that.



oh, and have a wonderful evening

[mocat]

[wiley]

UNLV in state 

[OregonSmock]

KU has a better basketball program

KU doesn't just have a better basketball program... they have a top five basketball program that draws national interest.  KU also owns a majority of a relatively large TV market in Kansas City.  KU is solid academically and is a member of the AAU.  We have a larger alumni base than K-State and a larger athletic budget.  I mean these are simply facts that you can't argue against.  Outside of programs like Texas and Notre Dame, KU is right up there when it comes to bringing additional revenue to another conference.  

Would I like for KU to remain in the same conference with K-State and Mizzou?  Absolutely.  Do I think the Pac 12 and ACC would have room for both KU and K-State?  No, I don't, and if it comes down to KU joining the ACC or Pac 12 instead of joining the Big East with K-State, I'd prefer to go solo.  K-State fans would feel the exact same way if the roles were reversed.  Don't kid yourselves.

[CNS]

KU has a better basketball program

KU doesn't just have a better basketball program... they have a top five basketball program that draws national interest.  KU also owns a majority of a relatively large TV market in Kansas City.  KU is solid academically and is a member of the AAU.  We have a larger alumni base than K-State and a larger athletic budget.  I mean these are simply facts that you can't argue against.  Outside of programs like Texas and Notre Dame, KU is right up there when it comes to bringing additional revenue to another conference.  

Would I like for KU to remain in the same conference with K-State and Mizzou?  Absolutely.  Do I think the Pac 12 and ACC would have room for both KU and K-State?  No, I don't, and if it comes down to KU joining the ACC or Pac 12 instead of joining the Big East with K-State, I'd prefer to go solo.  K-State fans would feel the exact same way if the roles were reversed.  Don't kid yourselves.

Facts?  Oh, my...

[bigwillie20]

KU has a better basketball program

 if it comes down to KU joining the ACC or Pac 12 instead of joining the Big East with K-State, I'd prefer to go solo.

I'd get away from a school that was 13 and 1'n me too

[Emo EMAW]

KU has a better basketball program

KU doesn't just have a better basketball program... they have a top five basketball program that draws national interest.  KU also owns a majority of a relatively large TV market in Kansas City.  KU is solid academically and is a member of the AAU.  We have a larger alumni base than K-State and a larger athletic budget.  I mean these are simply facts that you can't argue against.  Outside of programs like Texas and Notre Dame, KU is right up there when it comes to bringing additional revenue to another conference.  

Would I like for KU to remain in the same conference with K-State and Mizzou?  Absolutely.  Do I think the Pac 12 and ACC would have room for both KU and K-State?  No, I don't, and if it comes down to KU joining the ACC or Pac 12 instead of joining the Big East with K-State, I'd prefer to go solo.  K-State fans would feel the exact same way if the roles were reversed.  Don't kid yourselves.

Facts?  Oh, my...

Ya, that's a pretty big leap there Ben.

[sonofdaxjones]

ku barely clings to AAU status and BGL has all but come out and said that ku could face the same fate as UN-L.  

Using the USNWR rankings as our guide, ku would keep Florida State company at the bottom of the ACC, and be able to snuggle up with academic titans Oregon State, Arizona and Arizona State in the Pac-12.   Since some ku fans keep talking about the Big 10, ku would keep company with UN-L at the bottom there.

Outside of Notre Dame and Texas ku is right there with a whole slew of other schools in terms of bringing revenue to a conference, welcome to the club of many.

[OregonSmock]

So let me get this straight... everyone on this board honestly believes that KU and K-State are equal in this whole realignment process?  You don't think KU has any advantages over K-State, or that the ACC and Pac 12 wouldn't take KU without K-State?  Interesting. 

well BU, KU and ISU are the only schools left saying that they will not waive their rights to sue the SEC. KSU and MU aren't commenting. read whatever you want into that.



oh, and have a wonderful evening

What is there to read into it?  KU wants the Big 12 to survive.  They're not willing to let A&M destroy the conference and potentially cost us hundreds of millions of dollars without any penalties.  It's a smart way to approach the situation, especially with so many unknowns regarding the future.  No one in the Big 12 should waive their right to sue until A&M finds a replacement, or until the conference completely collapses.  I'm sure in your little delusional mind, though, you've convinced yourself that KU is desperate and doesn't have any options outside of the Big 12.  

[babytears]

Did you guys know that Albert Einstein totally sucked at Social Studies?  And that he was a really bad speller?  crap no you didn't.  You want to know why you don't know this?  Because that son of a bitch was rough ridin' awesome at science.  He was so damn good at science that he could have probably told everyone to start calling science 'cheeseboigers' and they would have done it.  Hi, son, how did you do on your cheeseboiger project?  Pretty swell, dad.

[jtksu]

Ben's constant self-validation reminds of of Stuart Smalley.  You just know Ben is sitting in front of a mirror right now.  "KU is good enough, KU is smart enough, and doggone it, people like KU!"

[ArchE_Cat]