So, here's how this is all going to go...

[Rams]

Had a recent conversation with one of Currie's good friends. He knows it's not a great situation with Bill at the helm, but there's nothing he can do about it at this point as long as he's making bowls games and beating KU.  Sean is a different story.  Currie is aware that Bill ultimately wants Sean in charge, but he won't let that happen.  I'm 100% confident that as long as Currie is our AD (and no, he's not interested in the Tennessee job when it opens up...which is going to happen soon) Sean will never be more than an assistant coach.

[Panjandrum]

Had a recent conversation with one of Currie's good friends. He knows it's not a great situation with Bill at the helm, but there's nothing he can do about it at this point as long as he's making bowls games and beating KU.  Sean is a different story.  Currie is aware that Bill ultimately wants Sean in charge, but he won't let that happen.  I'm 100% confident that as long as Currie is our AD (and no, he's not interested in the Tennessee job when it opens up...which is going to happen soon) Sean will never be more than an assistant coach.

The fact that this is even being discussed as a possibility and is now somewhat in the ballpark of reality is reason enough to take his name off of the stadium.

If LHC Bill Snyder really thinks Sean should be our next coach, it proves he doesn't give one crap about Kansas State.  He only cares about making up for being a workaholic dad that didn't spend enough time with his kids and now feels bad about it.

I'm going to get drunk when he retires.  crap canned drunk, and I'm going to shoot off fireworks in celebration.

[wetwillie]

Had a recent conversation with one of Currie's good friends. He knows it's not a great situation with Bill at the helm, but there's nothing he can do about it at this point as long as he's making bowls games and beating KU.  Sean is a different story.  Currie is aware that Bill ultimately wants Sean in charge, but he won't let that happen.  I'm 100% confident that as long as Currie is our AD (and no, he's not interested in the Tennessee job when it opens up...which is going to happen soon) Sean will never be more than an assistant coach.

 

[felix rex]

Not replacing Cosh and hiring Sean pushed me beyond the limit. 

fwiw, you're not alone.

[Rams]

Had a recent conversation with one of Currie's good friends. He knows it's not a great situation with Bill at the helm, but there's nothing he can do about it at this point as long as he's making bowls games and beating KU.  Sean is a different story.  Currie is aware that Bill ultimately wants Sean in charge, but he won't let that happen.  I'm 100% confident that as long as Currie is our AD (and no, he's not interested in the Tennessee job when it opens up...which is going to happen soon) Sean will never be more than an assistant coach.

 

 

[CNS]

So, if we lose currie before Bill, we are all mumped.

I am not willing to gamble that Currie won't be recognized and snatched up by others before Bill gives up/strokes out/tries to push sean until the AD breaks, yet this is exactly what appears to be happening right now.

If Currie leaves next year, Sean WILL be our next coach.

Bill needs to go ASAP so that we don't find ourselves on the losing side of this bet.  Very bad season for Bill will help...

[steve dave]

So, if we lose currie before Bill, we are all mumped.

I am not willing to gamble that Currie won't be recognized and snatched up by others before Bill gives up/strokes out/tries to push sean until the AD breaks, yet this is exactly what appears to be happening right now.

If Currie leaves next year, Sean WILL be our next coach.

Bill needs to go ASAP so that we don't find ourselves on the losing side of this bet.  Very bad season for Bill will help...

I'm not sure you are in full understanding of the chain of command.  Bill doesn't get AD powers if Currie leaves.  Hell, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if we went out and hired a new AD if Currie left. 

[0.42]

So, if we lose currie before Bill, we are all mumped.

I am not willing to gamble that Currie won't be recognized and snatched up by others before Bill gives up/strokes out/tries to push sean until the AD breaks, yet this is exactly what appears to be happening right now.

If Currie leaves next year, Sean WILL be our next coach.

Bill needs to go ASAP so that we don't find ourselves on the losing side of this bet.  Very bad season for Bill will help...

I'm not sure you are in full understanding of the chain of command.  Bill doesn't get AD powers if Currie leaves.  Hell, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if we went out and hired a new AD if Currie left. 

Yeah, Schulz is the fail-safe on this. I doubt he pulls a Wefald and just elevates Snyder or one of his cronies to AD if Currie leaves. Now, if we lose both Schulz and Currie before Snyder leaves, we may be in some very, very deep crap, both as an athletic department and a university.

[Panjandrum]

So, if we lose currie before Bill, we are all effed.

I am not willing to gamble that Currie won't be recognized and snatched up by others before Bill gives up/strokes out/tries to push sean until the AD breaks, yet this is exactly what appears to be happening right now.

If Currie leaves next year, Sean WILL be our next coach.

Bill needs to go ASAP so that we don't find ourselves on the losing side of this bet.  Very bad season for Bill will help...

I'm not sure you are in full understanding of the chain of command.  Bill doesn't get AD powers if Currie leaves.  Hell, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if we went out and hired a new AD if Currie left. 

Yeah, Schulz is the fail-safe on this. I doubt he pulls a Wefald and just elevates Snyder or one of his cronies to AD if Currie leaves. Now, if we lose both Schulz and Currie before Snyder leaves, we may be in some very, very deep cac, both as an athletic department and a university.

Schulz strikes me as a smart guy who gets it.  My guess is that he's going to laugh at any attempt by Bill to get Sean promoted into that position and veto any AD's attempt to get bullied into it.

If Sean is ever hired, I will openly root against Kansas State until he's Pat Knighted out of here.  I'm already teetering due to my disgust for him being on the staff to begin with.

[Rams]

Anyone that believes Bill will pick his successor, either publicly or by forcing Currie's hand behind the scenes somehow, is so rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that they should just be put out of their misery. 

I was told by somebody that I trust and has VAST experience in the matter that AD's are really allowed to do their job and make their own decisions (including going against the wishes of big boosters) if they can defend their decisions to boosters, but more importantly if they have the support of a good president.  We are in a very good position right now in that we have a great AD AND president that work well together.  Currie's not going anywhere for a while.  He's got young kids that he doesn't want to uproot and his family loves Manhattan.  I don't know as much about Schulz, but I guess I wouldn't be surprised if he was in it for the long haul. 

As I said, as long as Bill keeps getting to bowl games and beating KU, he can coach as long as he wants and put together his own staff.  Schulz and Currie both have set some amazing goals both academically and athletically in terms of fundraising/facilities and they are understandably in "don't rock the boat" mode right now.  Who can blame them?  That said, everything after Bill's retirement will be decisions made solely by Currie...who I believe will still be here when Bill retires...again. 

[Benja]

Had a recent conversation with one of Currie's good friends. He knows it's not a great situation with Bill at the helm, but there's nothing he can do about it at this point as long as he's making bowls games and beating KU.  Sean is a different story.  Currie is aware that Bill ultimately wants Sean in charge, but he won't let that happen.  I'm 100% confident that as long as Currie is our AD (and no, he's not interested in the Tennessee job when it opens up...which is going to happen soon) Sean will never be more than an assistant coach.

Maybe you really did hear different, but I really doubt Currie is all too worried about leaving Bill in charge for now. It's about as stable as a situation can get; boosters are firmly on his side, people will keep showing up to games and the money will keep steadily flowing in. You people obsessing over this next football hire are also assuming the Currie must be obsessing over it as well. You forget that anyone that knows the business knows that an AD's success is far from solely based on the hire's they make. Currie has already accomplished a couple of THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS he needed to do; produce solid revenue again, reconnect with the grassroots donors, pay Frank, and upgrade our facilities.

Maybe he didn't get to make his hire as soon as he wanted, sure, but I promise you he's crossed the first two objectives he had off his list. When the time comes he'll be able to make his hire, too. And he will have assured a higher level of stability for the program and for the ath dept's budget.

From a fan's perspective, things might look a bit depressing for the next few years.
From an AD's perspective, it looks extremely successful.

[wazucat]

Anyone that believes Bill will pick his successor, either publicly or by forcing Currie's hand behind the scenes somehow, is so effing Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that they should just be put out of their misery. 

I was told by somebody that I trust and has VAST experience in the matter that AD's are really allowed to do their job and make their own decisions (including going against the wishes of big boosters) if they can defend their decisions to boosters, but more importantly if they have the support of a good president.  We are in a very good position right now in that we have a great AD AND president that work well together.  Currie's not going anywhere for a while.  He's got young kids that he doesn't want to uproot and his family loves Manhattan.  I don't know as much about Schulz, but I guess I wouldn't be surprised if he was in it for the long haul. 

As I said, as long as Bill keeps getting to bowl games and beating KU, he can coach as long as he wants and put together his own staff.  Schulz and Currie both have set some amazing goals both academically and athletically in terms of fundraising/facilities and they are understandably in "don't rock the boat" mode right now.  Who can blame them?  That said, everything after Bill's retirement will be decisions made solely by Currie...who I believe will still be here when Bill retires...again. 

 

[Gooch]

Rest assured there are others in the athletic dept other than Currie who think Sean as head coach is rough ridin' ridiculous.

[CNS]

Rest assured there are others in the athletic dept other than Currie who think Sean as head coach is rough ridin' ridiculous.

This should be a question during the quarterly performance reviews for anyone associated with the ath dept.  If anyone doesn't think that it is ridic, they should be fired on the spot.

[_33]

Rest assured there are others in the athletic dept other than Currie who think Sean as head coach is rough ridin' ridiculous.

This should be a question during the quarterly performance reviews for anyone associated with the ath dept.  If anyone doesn't think that it is ridic, they should be fired on the spot.

Sean on staff is just as ridiculous. Where were these morons when that was happening?

[steve dave]

Rest assured there are others in the athletic dept other than Currie who think Sean as head coach is rough ridin' ridiculous.

This should be a question during the quarterly performance reviews for anyone associated with the ath dept.  If anyone doesn't think that it is ridic, they should be fired on the spot.

Sean on staff is just as ridiculous. Where were these morons when that was happening?

yes

[Rams]

Rest assured there are others in the athletic dept other than Currie who think Sean as head coach is rough ridin' ridiculous.

This should be a question during the quarterly performance reviews for anyone associated with the ath dept.  If anyone doesn't think that it is ridic, they should be fired on the spot.

Sean on staff is just as ridiculous. Where were these morons when that was happening?

It's in Bill's contract that he has first and last say on his football staff.  Again, as long as he keeps getting to bowl games and beating KU, he can hire his daughter to be the special teams coach...who is equally qualified imo.  Again..."don't rock the boat."

Honestly, why would they want to put up a fight on this anyway?  If Sean contributes to the suck, they look more justified in getting rid of Bill.  If it somehow works out and they get better, great.  I can picture Currie licking his chops and laughing his ass off when Bill made this decision.  No lose all the way around.

[Bookcat]

Kstate football 2011 is currently undefeated. 

I'll foolishly cling to every single snap and brag and predict great big things when we win and completely melt down when we lose. Do it every time.

[W.Churchill]

Shouldn't be caring about O line.  Bill will find a way to figure that out.

Should be worried about Cosh's inept defense and another poor season of missed arm tackles, dbacks who don't know where the eff they should be or how to approach, and an overall lack of stops.

Just like he figured out the O line in '04 and '05?  Same problem this year.....too much inexperience and too little talent.  

[KSUBrian]

Shouldn't be caring about O line.  Bill will find a way to figure that out.

Should be worried about Cosh's inept defense and another poor season of missed arm tackles, dbacks who don't know where the eff they should be or how to approach, and an overall lack of stops.

Just like he figured out the O line in '04 and '05?  Same problem this year.....too much inexperience and too little talent.  

O-line seems to have been one of the better units the last couple of years.  Don't remember who coached OL in 04 & 05 (Dimel maybe?) but I think Dickey is one of the better, if not the best, assistant on the current staff. The rubber meets the road this year when OL recruits from the last couple of classes will be relied upon for significant contributions.

[_33]

Shouldn't be caring about O line.  Bill will find a way to figure that out.

Should be worried about Cosh's inept defense and another poor season of missed arm tackles, dbacks who don't know where the eff they should be or how to approach, and an overall lack of stops.

Just like he figured out the O line in '04 and '05?  Same problem this year.....too much inexperience and too little talent.  

O-line seems to have been one of the better units the last couple of years.  Don't remember who coached OL in 04 & 05 (Dimel maybe?) but I think Dickey is one of the better, if not the best, assistant on the current staff. The rubber meets the road this year when OL recruits from the last couple of classes will be relied upon for significant contributions.

Does anyone know if the oline guys are besties again this season? Last years group was so tight knit that I think it helped them block defenders better.

[steve dave]

I bet an oline with really good grip could be a dominant red rover team

[Panjandrum]

Shouldn't be caring about O line.  Bill will find a way to figure that out.

Should be worried about Cosh's inept defense and another poor season of missed arm tackles, dbacks who don't know where the eff they should be or how to approach, and an overall lack of stops.

Just like he figured out the O line in '04 and '05?  Same problem this year.....too much inexperience and too little talent.  

O-line seems to have been one of the better units the last couple of years.  Don't remember who coached OL in 04 & 05 (Dimel maybe?) but I think Dickey is one of the better, if not the best, assistant on the current staff. The rubber meets the road this year when OL recruits from the last couple of classes will be relied upon for significant contributions.

You're thinking of Bob Stanley, and he was worthless.

He was just fired at Western Michigan.

He was one of the first examples of horrible coaches Snyder brought in but wouldn't fire.