The Official Bracketology Thread

[DQ12]

So our next two games will likely be:

@TCU Tier 1
@Baylor Tier 1 and
vs. Baylor Tier 2

Plus the Big 12 tournament.  Seems like we have some good oppy's left to move up.

[kslim]

So our next two games will likely be:

@TCU Tier 1
@Baylor Tier 1 and
vs. Baylor Tier 2

Plus the Big 12 tournament.  Seems like we have some good oppy's left to move up.

i know you meant to put OU there, but i would put baylor and OU as tier 2 for now. thats most likely where they will end up

[DQ12]

So our next two games will likely be:

@OU Tier 1
@TCU Tier 1 and
vs. Baylor Tier 2

Plus the Big 12 tournament.  Seems like we have some good oppy's left to move up.

i know you meant to put OU there, but i would put baylor and OU as tier 2 for now. thats most likely where they will end up

Fixed**

No way OU drops to Tier 2. 

[MakeItRain]

Today's bubble watch, we're still in the work left to do category. I thought we'd be in the "should be in category." I think we're a lock though because we'd still be .500 in the #1 conference with an rpi in the low 50s at worst.

Kansas State (20-8, 9-6 Big 12)
(BPI: 45 | SOS: 44 | SOR: 21 | RPI: 54)

The game the Wildcats are about to play at Oklahoma represents a fork in the road for two teams traveling in different directions. K-State has won three in a row and the Sooners represent a Quadrant 1 test despite their current struggles.

As an inhabitant of Joe Lunardi's list of "last four byes," Kansas State is in the field but not by a huge margin. A win in Norman would provide a little breathing space, though a victory at TCU in the following game would furnish even more.

Also worth noting regarding lunardi, he's usually trash at seeding the lower seeded at larges until late championship week.

[kslim]

So our next two games will likely be:

@OU Tier 1
@TCU Tier 1 and
vs. Baylor Tier 2

Plus the Big 12 tournament.  Seems like we have some good oppy's left to move up.

i know you meant to put OU there, but i would put baylor and OU as tier 2 for now. thats most likely where they will end up

Fixed**

No way OU drops to Tier 2.

lol, no way? are you not paying attention to them?

['taterblast]

Palm has us as a 9 vs 8 Creighton

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/

[Rage Against the McKee]

Palm has us as a 9 vs 8 Creighton

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/

That would be fun.

[catastrophe]

Today's bubble watch, we're still in the work left to do category. I thought we'd be in the "should be in category." I think we're a lock though because we'd still be .500 in the #1 conference with an rpi in the low 50s at worst.

Kansas State (20-8, 9-6 Big 12)
(BPI: 45 | SOS: 44 | SOR: 21 | RPI: 54)

The game the Wildcats are about to play at Oklahoma represents a fork in the road for two teams traveling in different directions. K-State has won three in a row and the Sooners represent a Quadrant 1 test despite their current struggles.

As an inhabitant of Joe Lunardi's list of "last four byes," Kansas State is in the field but not by a huge margin. A win in Norman would provide a little breathing space, though a victory at TCU in the following game would furnish even more.

Also worth noting regarding lunardi, he's usually trash at seeding the lower seeded at larges until late championship week.

As someone who has been used to living on the bubble the last few years, I am definitely more comfortable with our position than ever before.  If we beat OU on the road, I cannot imagine a scenario where KSU misses the field.  My only concern is losing out the season AND not winning a game in the Big 12 Tournament.  Even then I think we have a decent chance to make the field (but if we don't, it could still be a mixed blessing since oscar's seat would definitely be hot going into next year). 

This TCU thing also continues to perplex me.

[kso_FAN]

So our next two games will likely be:

@OU Tier 1
@TCU Tier 1 and
vs. Baylor Tier 2

Plus the Big 12 tournament.  Seems like we have some good oppy's left to move up.

i know you meant to put OU there, but i would put baylor and OU as tier 2 for now. thats most likely where they will end up

Fixed**

No way OU drops to Tier 2.

lol, no way? are you not paying attention to them?

Since its a road game, OU would have to drop over 40 spots in the RPI to become a tier 2 game. Some may call this a flaw in the tier system, but its what they are using.

[kslim]

So our next two games will likely be:

@OU Tier 1
@TCU Tier 1 and
vs. Baylor Tier 2

Plus the Big 12 tournament.  Seems like we have some good oppy's left to move up.

i know you meant to put OU there, but i would put baylor and OU as tier 2 for now. thats most likely where they will end up

Fixed**

No way OU drops to Tier 2.

lol, no way? are you not paying attention to them?

Since its a road game, OU would have to drop over 40 spots in the RPI to become a tier 2 game. Some may call this a flaw in the tier system, but its what they are using.

OU can and most likely will lose out. thats where i was going with that statement

[kslim]

i just dont see how you can count that as a "quality win" anymore

[kso_FAN]

i just dont see how you can count that as a "quality win" anymore

Beating a top 75 team on the road is considered tier 1. I get why some people don't like it, but that's the system now.

[DQ12]

i just dont see how you can count that as a "quality win" anymore

Playing at a team with an RPI of 1-75 qualifies as a tier 1 win.

OU's RPI right now is 32.  They won't drop 43 spots in two weeks.  It's 100% a tier 1 game.

[kslim]

so by that account if tulsa wins a couple of games they will most likely be a tier 1 loss

[kso_FAN]

so by that account if tulsa wins a couple of games they will most likely be a tier 1 loss

It will be tier 2 if they move up to the top 75.  The game in Wichita counts as a home game since K-State handled ticket sales.

[kslim]

so by that account if tulsa wins a couple of games they will most likely be a tier 1 loss

It will be tier 2 if they move up to the top 75.  The game in Wichita counts as a home game since K-State handled ticket sales.

so if they are in the top 75 and you beat them its a tier 1 win but if you lose its a tier 2 loss?

[kso_FAN]

so by that account if tulsa wins a couple of games they will most likely be a tier 1 loss

It will be tier 2 if they move up to the top 75.  The game in Wichita counts as a home game since K-State handled ticket sales.

so if they are in the top 75 and you beat them its a tier 1 win but if you lose its a tier 2 loss?

It varies from home, neutral, and road.

RPI Group 1: Home (1-30)   Neutral (1-50)   Away (1-75)
RPI Group 2: Home (31-75)   Neutral (51-100)   Away (76-135)
RPI Group 3: Home (76-160)   Neutral (101-200)   Away (136-240)
RPI Group 4: Home (161-351)   Neutral (201-351)   Away (241-351)

[kslim]

i see, i was wrong

[mocat]

it's like the first semester at the new middle school and kslim missed the first week of geometry class and now is trying to tell professor FAN what a rhombus is

[kso_FAN]

it's like the first semester at the new middle school and kslim missed the first week of geometry class and now is trying to tell professor FAN what a rhombus is

[WillieWatanabe]

it's like the first semester at the new middle school and kslim missed the first week of geometry class and now is trying to tell professor FAN what a rhombus is

audibly laughed. Great post mocat

[Powercat Posse]

Dang TCU moved up to the 7 line, that is absurd.

It is crazy. 7 tier 1/2 wins and 3 road wins. We have 9 and 6.

The bracketologists love them though.

Here are the Q1/Q2 wins for comparison--

Ksu Q1=
Home - 20
Road - 53,58

Tcu Q1=
Home - 27
Road - 58
Nuetral - 13,26

Ksu Q2=
Home - 32,52,68
Road - 93.108,111

Tcu Q2=
Home - 53
Road - 93,111


1) So both teams have 5 good wins away from home, but 2 of 5 are Nuetral for Tcu

2) KState has 2 more Q1/Q2 wins. KState currently 2 game lead on Tcu in B12.  If both of those are the same at seasons end, I don't understand how Tcu is ahead of us.   Th difference in the non con SOS is significant, but not enough to these 2 advantages KState has

[kslim]

it's like the first semester at the new middle school and kslim missed the first week of geometry class and now is trying to tell professor FAN what a rhombus is

ouch, deserved it but still OUCH

[kso_FAN]

it's like the first semester at the new middle school and kslim missed the first week of geometry class and now is trying to tell professor FAN what a rhombus is

ouch, deserved it but still OUCH

[sys]

if the big 12 still has a commissioner, he needs to step in and prohibit tcu and ou from accepting bids, if the opinions of these mad bracketologists prevail.