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Re: BSFS Expansion Thread
« Reply #4450 on: November 21, 2012, 11:06:16 PM »
Can we stop nerding out? Let's all just admit its feasible to put up a limestone wall.....you know since it is part of the plan and all. No need for all you dirt experts to get into a dick measuring contest.

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« Reply #4451 on: November 22, 2012, 06:09:14 AM »
Can we stop nerding out? Let's all just admit its feasible to put up a limestone wall.....you know since it is part of the plan and all. No need for all you dirt experts to get into a dick measuring contest.

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« Reply #4452 on: November 22, 2012, 08:42:31 AM »
not to sidetrack discussion here, but "how it's made" is doing cranes right now science channel

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« Reply #4453 on: November 22, 2012, 10:26:05 AM »
I see what you're saying about heaving. But IMO it depends completly on the soil type at the project site and the subgrade prep. Most gravity retaining walls simple have a compacted fill base that doesn't extend to frost level but only acts in bearing. BSFS show no signs of settlement or heaving at the field level where it interfaces with the first riser of the seating bowl. I just don't buy the argument that the foundation system for the proposed wall would make it cost prohibitive compared to other projects.

Frost footings on buildings create a perimeter to keep the interior subbase in a temp controlled area separated from the exterior. Interior footings don't need to extend to frost because they are not located at a location with a temperature differential. The heaving is caused by the tramp diff and gets worse with certain soils.

Interior footings don't need to be frost footings, because unless there is a major problem, there will never be frost under a building.  Has nothing to do with temperature differential.    There would be frost potential on a site wall.

Segmented (read block) retaining walls don't need a frost footing, because they have no rigid joints.    No mortar to crack.   The will move and at worst not be nice and level.   But a laid up masonry wall will crack at the joints, and with the reinforcement in a CMU wall, likely not totally return to it's original position.

I'm not arguing it's cost prohibitive, only that the cost would be much higher than the non-nerds think, and that is likely why it is not on the priority list.

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« Reply #4454 on: November 22, 2012, 10:30:05 AM »
If we don't do the wall, maybe we can rip out the asphalt track and plant beans or Milo. Maybe even some Winter Wheat. Imagine the players running out of full standing corn in the middle of conference season.  :excited:
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« Reply #4455 on: November 22, 2012, 10:38:15 AM »
If we don't do the wall, maybe we can rip out the asphalt track and plant beans or Milo. Maybe even some Winter Wheat. Imagine the players running out of full standing corn in the middle of conference season.  :excited:


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« Reply #4456 on: November 23, 2012, 08:29:34 AM »
As long as the footing doesn't have to formed (think dig trench, tie steel, pour concrete) it definitely won't be the most expensive part of the wall.
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« Reply #4457 on: November 23, 2012, 12:34:15 PM »
If we don't do the wall, maybe we can rip out the asphalt track and plant beans or Milo. Maybe even some Winter Wheat. Imagine the players running out of full standing corn in the middle of conference season.  :excited:

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« Reply #4458 on: November 24, 2012, 03:28:09 PM »
If we don't do the wall, maybe we can rip out the asphalt track and plant beans or Milo. Maybe even some Winter Wheat. Imagine the players running out of full standing corn in the middle of conference season.  :excited:

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« Reply #4459 on: November 24, 2012, 03:30:18 PM »
If we don't do the wall, maybe we can rip out the asphalt track and plant beans or Milo. Maybe even some Winter Wheat. Imagine the players running out of full standing corn in the middle of conference season.  :excited:

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« Reply #4460 on: November 24, 2012, 03:32:13 PM »
If we don't do the wall, maybe we can rip out the asphalt track and plant beans or Milo. Maybe even some Winter Wheat. Imagine the players running out of full standing corn in the middle of conference season.  :excited:

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« Reply #4461 on: November 24, 2012, 09:02:47 PM »
Can you nerds stfu and have the KSUNews guy go take some fracking pics?  Thanks and I'll listening off the air..

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« Reply #4462 on: November 25, 2012, 01:11:16 PM »
First tiny piece of steel on the north side is up. About 4ft long (tall?)

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« Reply #4463 on: November 25, 2012, 02:01:14 PM »
Either they're way behind or they planned to work crazy fast this week.  Currie said that both sides would be built up by the UT game.

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« Reply #4464 on: November 25, 2012, 02:28:16 PM »
Either they're way behind or they planned to work crazy fast this week.  Currie said that both sides would be built up by the UT game.

Currie also said basketball ticket sales were going well.  :dunno:

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« Reply #4465 on: November 27, 2012, 03:49:08 PM »
No way in hell this thing is up by saturday. Went from 1 piece on sunday to 3 pieces today.

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« Reply #4466 on: November 27, 2012, 04:05:23 PM »
No way in hell this thing is up by saturday. Went from 1 piece on sunday to 3 pieces today.

yeah, the cold temperatures will really slow down the welding.   somebody has really mumped the dog on this one.

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« Reply #4467 on: November 27, 2012, 04:18:04 PM »
No way in hell this thing is up by saturday. Went from 1 piece on sunday to 3 pieces today.

yeah, the cold temperatures will really slow down the welding.   somebody has really mumped the dog on this one.

I thought the columns on the north end would be going faster....wondering if some anchor rods were misplaced when the foundations were poured on that end.

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« Reply #4468 on: November 27, 2012, 04:21:18 PM »
No way in hell this thing is up by saturday. Went from 1 piece on sunday to 3 pieces today.
Maybe those are the hardest 3 pieces.

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« Reply #4469 on: November 27, 2012, 04:33:38 PM »
No way in hell this thing is up by saturday. Went from 1 piece on sunday to 3 pieces today.
Maybe those are the hardest 3 pieces.

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Re: BSFS Expansion Thread
« Reply #4470 on: November 27, 2012, 04:51:28 PM »
No way in hell this thing is up by saturday. Went from 1 piece on sunday to 3 pieces today.

sounds like its tripling in size every day
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« Reply #4471 on: November 27, 2012, 04:54:06 PM »
No way in hell this thing is up by saturday. Went from 1 piece on sunday to 3 pieces today.

sounds like its tripling in size every 2 days
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« Reply #4472 on: November 27, 2012, 04:56:48 PM »
still pretty good!
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« Reply #4473 on: November 27, 2012, 05:40:37 PM »
No way in hell this thing is up by saturday. Went from 1 piece on sunday to 3 pieces today.

yeah, the cold temperatures will really slow down the welding.   somebody has really mumped the dog on this one.

I thought the columns on the north end would be going faster....wondering if some anchor rods were misplaced when the foundations were poured on that end.

i haven't been keeping an eye on it, but unless someone's been a complete idiot, even if they were, that should be resolved failry quickly.    It's not like they're over there hammering out foundations and repouring.   They are either not an issue, or being epoxied in place, which is fairly quickyly done.     This whole thing seems to be a boondoggle...it sat there for what, 5 weeks without any steel on site?   Someone somewhere mumped up bad, that kind of scheduling is inexcusable for a project with a schedule like this.

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« Reply #4474 on: November 27, 2012, 05:48:02 PM »
i'm pretty sure there is a basement over there with a formed concrete deck over it.  that would explain the difference in time for the north side.
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