Author Topic: PICKUP BASKETBALL THREAD (Read 221410 times)

Poster formerly known as jthutch · « **Reply #275 on:** March 07, 2011, 09:05:24 AM »

If he grabs your arm you should just Morris him in the head. I'm small and have boney elbow and I Morris guys who grab me all the time. They get tired of having little bruses all over their arms and chest.

michigancat · « **Reply #276 on:** March 07, 2011, 09:14:38 AM »

Quote from: chum1 on March 06, 2011, 11:09:37 PM

That guy went far beyond being a pussy, IMO. Extremely odd behavior. It's just childish. He's a freak. On the other hand, I don't think physical play is very typical of pick up games. People don't normally use their bodies to fight for position, do they?

I definitely wouldn't consider it "physical play", but it is completely normal to use your body for position in pickup games. Maybe in 1985 it wasn't, but this isn't 1985.

chum1 · « **Reply #277 on:** March 07, 2011, 09:27:23 AM »

Quote from: michigancat on March 07, 2011, 09:14:38 AM

Quote from: chum1 on March 06, 2011, 11:09:37 PM
That guy went far beyond being a pussy, IMO. Extremely odd behavior. It's just childish. He's a freak. On the other hand, I don't think physical play is very typical of pick up games. People don't normally use their bodies to fight for position, do they?

I definitely wouldn't consider it "physical play", but it is completely normal to use your body for position in pickup games. Maybe in 1985 it wasn't, but this isn't 1985.

just don't want you to be "that guy" who is a little too serious. i mean, you tried to take a charge in pick up ball, right?

michigancat · « **Reply #278 on:** March 07, 2011, 09:46:36 AM »

Quote from: chum1 on March 07, 2011, 09:27:23 AM

Quote from: michigancat on March 07, 2011, 09:14:38 AM
Quote from: chum1 on March 06, 2011, 11:09:37 PM
That guy went far beyond being a pussy, IMO. Extremely odd behavior. It's just childish. He's a freak. On the other hand, I don't think physical play is very typical of pick up games. People don't normally use their bodies to fight for position, do they?

I definitely wouldn't consider it "physical play", but it is completely normal to use your body for position in pickup games. Maybe in 1985 it wasn't, but this isn't 1985.

just don't want you to be "that guy" who is a little too serious. i mean, you tried to take a charge in pick up ball, right?

But seriously, people foul and box out and post up. That isn't taking things too seriously at all.

chum1 · « **Reply #279 on:** March 07, 2011, 10:09:22 AM »

i wouldn't consider those things fighting for position. i would, however, anticipate a possible negative reaction if i tried to push a guy where i wanted him to go.

Skipper44 · « **Reply #280 on:** March 07, 2011, 10:53:41 AM »

Quote from: michigancat on March 06, 2011, 05:31:41 PM

OK, need a goEMAW ruling on this:

On offense, a guy was playing lazy defense at the wing, just basically running parallel to me while I nudge him to the center of the paint to give me a better angle to the basket. As I kick the ball out to the perimeter, he grabs my arm, and says, "if you push off, I am going to grab your arm." I generally have no problem with an exchange of contact, but I don't think grabbing an arm is equal to creating contact with someone playing lazy ass defense. I really didn't care, and I will do it again (only maybe call his foul if he does it on a shot), but just wanted a goEMAW ruling.

Was this guy 40+?

_33 · « **Reply #281 on:** March 07, 2011, 12:00:05 PM »

You were in the right. Slightly pushing off does not warrant an arm grab. It deserves more of a stepping on the back of your shoe on the way back down the court and pretend it was an accident.

BTW, I did the Michael Beasley kiss my hand while holding up 3 fingers thing after I drained a step back 3 in this guys rec spec'd face at the Y yesterday.

michigancat · « **Reply #282 on:** March 07, 2011, 01:28:09 PM »

Quote from: Skipper44 on March 07, 2011, 10:53:41 AM

Quote from: michigancat on March 06, 2011, 05:31:41 PM
OK, need a goEMAW ruling on this:

On offense, a guy was playing lazy defense at the wing, just basically running parallel to me while I nudge him to the center of the paint to give me a better angle to the basket. As I kick the ball out to the perimeter, he grabs my arm, and says, "if you push off, I am going to grab your arm." I generally have no problem with an exchange of contact, but I don't think grabbing an arm is equal to creating contact with someone playing lazy ass defense. I really didn't care, and I will do it again (only maybe call his foul if he does it on a shot), but just wanted a goEMAW ruling.

Was this guy 40+?

yes

the KHAN! · « **Reply #283 on:** March 09, 2011, 05:38:53 PM »

I don't mind it when people shoot at the other end. Usually because I am

A. Too slow and tired to make a fast break normally.
B. When the stars align and I get a steal, I usually put it up too hard due to excitement, and I miss the layup anyway.

I just like standing under the basket like Asprilla and getting my own rebounds until I make a basket, being much taller than a lot of folks.

yoga-like_abana · « **Reply #284 on:** March 09, 2011, 05:51:35 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on March 07, 2011, 01:28:09 PM

Was this guy 40+?

yes
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you couldn't create separation from his old ass w/o pushing off

michigancat · « **Reply #285 on:** March 16, 2011, 06:39:00 PM »

Anyway, bearded Rusty is back. And Rusty grows a damn fine beard.

Anyway, today, the other team was trying to figure out who to guard. Someone says, "you take the guy with the beard". And some dude with a lame beard on my team says, "you mean the guy with the long beard?" I felt bad for the guy.

Then, I dropped a rough ridin' Denis Clemente transition 3.

_33 · « **Reply #286 on:** March 16, 2011, 09:07:15 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on March 16, 2011, 06:39:00 PM

Anyway, bearded Rusty is back. And Rusty grows a damn fine beard. Anyway, today, the other team was trying to figure out who to guard. Someone says, "you take the guy with the beard". And some dude with a lame beard on my team says, "you mean the guy with the long beard?" I felt bad for the guy.

Then, I dropped a rough ridin' Denis Clemente transition 3.

Congrats on the beard. And the DC transition 3. Sounds like it was a great day to be MICat.

michigancat · « **Reply #287 on:** March 16, 2011, 09:25:40 PM »

Quote from: _33 on March 16, 2011, 09:07:15 PM

Quote from: michigancat on March 16, 2011, 06:39:00 PM
Anyway, bearded Rusty is back. And Rusty grows a damn fine beard. Anyway, today, the other team was trying to figure out who to guard. Someone says, "you take the guy with the beard". And some dude with a lame beard on my team says, "you mean the guy with the long beard?" I felt bad for the guy.

Then, I dropped a rough ridin' Denis Clemente transition 3.

Congrats on the beard. And the DC transition 3. Sounds like it was a great day to be MICat.

thanks. it really was definitely a good day. Although I left out my airball layup.

Poster formerly known as jthutch · « **Reply #288 on:** March 17, 2011, 09:30:33 AM »

Last Sunday I was playing at our church court and I droped like 5 Clemente like running floaters in the lane. I also had a pretty sweet double pump reverse layup in traffic. But i was like 3 for 20 on 3 point shots

Yeah I'm that guy, but shooters gotta shoot. amiright?

kougar24 · « **Reply #289 on:** March 21, 2011, 01:49:10 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on March 16, 2011, 09:25:40 PM

Quote from: _33 on March 16, 2011, 09:07:15 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 16, 2011, 06:39:00 PM
Anyway, bearded Rusty is back. And Rusty grows a damn fine beard. Anyway, today, the other team was trying to figure out who to guard. Someone says, "you take the guy with the beard". And some dude with a lame beard on my team says, "you mean the guy with the long beard?" I felt bad for the guy.

Then, I dropped a effing Denis Clemente transition 3.

Congrats on the beard. And the DC transition 3. Sounds like it was a great day to be MICat.

thanks. it really was definitely a good day. Although I left out my airball layup.

What happened? Expect contact and didn't get any, Jamar-style?

michigancat · « **Reply #290 on:** March 30, 2011, 08:51:47 PM »

Quote from: kougar24 on March 21, 2011, 01:49:10 PM

What happened? Expect contact and didn't get any, Jamar-style?

Pretty much.

2 incidents today:

1) I go to the lane, get obviously hacked across my arm, miss, then call the foul as soon as the other team gets the rebound (but didn't make an outlet or dribble). (I rarely can call fouls while I'm in the motion of shooting - don't know why, just can't.) I say "who gives a crap, it's still a foul." Discussion ended. Not sure why its a big deal, but sometimes people whine about late foul calls. why?

2) My team gets scored on, and I roll my eyes while I slowly go to throw in the ball. Some guy who cusses and yells a lot (at the rough ridin' Y) sprints to the ball and doesn't even throw it in, just takes off without throwing it in and says something stupid like "Let's go". I shrug my shoulders, whatever. But then he makes a transition 3, comes back and is like, "Don't rough ridin' walk to the ball!". I tell him to eff off, and proceed to mock him the rest of the game, like, if he did anything wrong. He pretty much quit trying because of it, but at least he didn't try to coach me again and he pretty much shut the eff up.

Johnny Wichita · « **Reply #291 on:** March 30, 2011, 10:21:16 PM »

You play basketball with a bunch of rough ridin' idiots.

michigancat · « **Reply #292 on:** March 30, 2011, 10:56:12 PM »

Quote from: Johnny Wichita on March 30, 2011, 10:21:16 PM

You play basketball with a bunch of rough ridin' idiots.

makes me feel good. thanks. It's easy to think you're the only sane person on earth up here.

the KHAN! · « **Reply #293 on:** March 31, 2011, 02:17:31 AM »

I discovered that shitty Park hoops are very inferior to the ones in the Rec.

The three ball falls easily in that building.

sys · « **Reply #294 on:** March 31, 2011, 11:58:33 AM »

Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 08:51:47 PM

1) I go to the lane, get obviously hacked across my arm, miss, then call the foul as soon as the other team gets the rebound (but didn't make an outlet or dribble). (I rarely can call fouls while I'm in the motion of shooting - don't know why, just can't.) I say "who gives a crap, it's still a foul." Discussion ended. Not sure why its a big deal, but sometimes people whine about late foul calls. why?

you do seem to play with idiots, but you're wrong here. you can't wait till the rebound to call a foul for eff's sake. you should be able to figure out the ethical conflict in that without the help of goEMAW's experts.

michigancat · « **Reply #295 on:** March 31, 2011, 11:59:47 AM »

Quote from: sys on March 31, 2011, 11:58:33 AM

Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 08:51:47 PM
1) I go to the lane, get obviously hacked across my arm, miss, then call the foul as soon as the other team gets the rebound (but didn't make an outlet or dribble). (I rarely can call fouls while I'm in the motion of shooting - don't know why, just can't.) I say "who gives a crap, it's still a foul." Discussion ended. Not sure why its a big deal, but sometimes people whine about late foul calls. why?
you can't wait till the rebound to call a foul for eff's sake.

why?

(for the record, I have no problem with not being granted a foul in this case, just curious what the eff difference it makes.)

_33 · « **Reply #296 on:** March 31, 2011, 12:06:13 PM »

It makes sense to wait to see if the ball goes in before you call a foul.

michigancat · « **Reply #297 on:** March 31, 2011, 12:09:44 PM »

Quote from: _33 on March 31, 2011, 12:06:13 PM

It makes sense to wait to see if the ball goes in before you call a foul.

I kind of agree, many people don't.

we also had a similar issue (I wasn't involved) where a guy was getting bumped at the half court line pretty hard, but didn't call the foul. So the guy bumped him again, and this time, he stole the ball. Ballhandler calls the foul. Fouler gets pissed. "Why didn't you call the first one if it was a foul?!?" To me, there is nothing bitchier than calling a non-shooting foul when possession does not change hands. Agree?

sys · « **Reply #298 on:** March 31, 2011, 12:27:42 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2011, 11:59:47 AM

why?

because you're waiting to see if you if your team gets the oboard/easy putback before making your call. you're gaining an advantage by waiting since the oboard is far better than checking the ball up top.

michigancat · « **Reply #299 on:** March 31, 2011, 12:31:39 PM »

Quote from: sys on March 31, 2011, 12:27:42 PM

Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2011, 11:59:47 AM
why?

because you're waiting to see if you if your team gets the oboard/easy putback before making your call. you're gaining an advantage by waiting since the oboard is far better than checking the ball up top.

what if the foul call is made after my team gets the reb?