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Let this sink in, dax the denier just posted a photoshopped time magazine cover as proof that global warming is a hoax by the Chinese
:ROFL:

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Links to those headlines? Must have been a lot of them to make such an impression on you and not just one article once that the author retracted a year later

LOL, AGW propagandists (like you) have been trying to make this go away for years. 

LOL, you're implying that global warming propagandist articles (white papers) are not ever retracted and that there hasn't been a steady admission that the models were way off.

Dax, do you think science changes based on new information? Or do you view science as static? What about Exxon admitting that CO2 is heavily impacting climate change?
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/

You're so dumb, you don't get that I basically just showed that science changes all the time.   That's why your propaganda that the "science is settled" on AGW is patently absurd and anti-science.

And exxon knowing about manmade CO2 climate impacts since 1977, but pumping out propoganda contrary to it?

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Dax, what do you think of Pruitt saying that Trump and the administration have created 50k coal jobs since taking office? Any opinion on Pruitt appointing Oil/Gas/Extraction/Production lobbyists to the EPA?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/06/06/pruitts-claim-that-almost-50000-jobs-have-been-gained-in-coal/
https://www.ecowatch.com/pruitt-patrick-traylor-2440855827.html

Considering that after trillions have been spent on renewables and it still accounts for less than 5% of the worlds power.   What idiots like you don't get is, your renewable utopia will be built on the back of fossil fuels.

But I'm just remembering that people like you laugh at the concept of energy poverty while systems that receive more government subsidies than any other energy producing system (taxpayer money on top of the monthly bill) is still meeting so little of the worlds energy demands.

Not answering the questions... Got it.

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Links to those headlines? Must have been a lot of them to make such an impression on you and not just one article once that the author retracted a year later

LOL, AGW propagandists (like you) have been trying to make this go away for years. 

LOL, you're implying that global warming propagandist articles (white papers) are not ever retracted and that there hasn't been a steady admission that the models were way off.

Dax, do you think science changes based on new information? Or do you view science as static? What about Exxon admitting that CO2 is heavily impacting climate change?
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/

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Dax, what do you think of Pruitt saying that Trump and the administration have created 50k coal jobs since taking office? Any opinion on Pruitt appointing Oil/Gas/Extraction/Production lobbyists to the EPA?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/06/06/pruitts-claim-that-almost-50000-jobs-have-been-gained-in-coal/
https://www.ecowatch.com/pruitt-patrick-traylor-2440855827.html

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Refresh me, please. Are there posters on here that think climate change isn't happening? Or do they just believe it isn't caused by man?

In true shill fashion, the deniers are now pivoting to climate change may be real but not significantly affected by man. And when that fails they then move to their next argument that china/india/developing countries are way worse so why should we change our lifestyles/society here in the west. And when that fails then they argue if you don't live completely off-grid, ride a bike everywhere, only eat vegan, then you are hypocrite and shouldn't even try to live a cleaner life. And when that fails they say the collection data and models are flawed, despite many studies and science refuting their claims. And on, and on, and on.

But really what it all boils down to is that they are change-averse. They can't handle having to adjust their decisions/lives or having the government put in place regulations that force them to think about the impacts of the status quo. They grasp with all their might to save 50k coal jobs, dying industries, and nostalgia to a bygone era when you could burn tires in your back yard, fill up with leaded gasoline, and sit by grandpas bedside while he died of black lung.

Sad. Almost feel bad for them. My only solace is that they will soon die and not have to bear the discomfort of having to breathe clean air or drink clean water... And we can all move on from their willful ignorance and join the rest of the modern world, embracing technological progress, alternative energy, building efficiency, and sustainability.

RIP deniers.

LOL, the simple facts are the biggest advocates of AGW, are also some of the biggest individual consumers of fossil fuels on the planet.   Always willing to hop into airplanes and fly all over the planet to tell everyone else how they need to live their lives.  But I digress.

Just because you want to hook your wagon to an utterly meaningless Paris Accord which affords absolutely ZERO accountability to some of the biggest polluters (countries) on the planet, doesn't mean it shouldn't be subjected to the scorn and ridicule it so rightly deserves.

As we've discussed.  AGW propagandists are once again being shown trying to play both sides of the coin in order to advance their political agenda.

So because the Paris Accord doesn't go far enough to address climate change the US should then lead the rest of the world by throwing the whole thing in trash? Doesn't that conflict with your viewpoint that climate change isn't a big deal? Great logic, dax!

And to say that the people trying to change things are some of the biggest polluters and because of that we shouldn't listen to them is another logical fallacy. It neither refutes what they are saying or why we should change.

You (and your ilk) are so woefully wrapped up in conspiracy theories that you are blind from seeing and accepting the science and facts right in front of you, supported by people educated and devoted to studying it. "If obama, the liberals, and europeans want it then it must be wrong and they must be trying to trick us! TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP! MAGA!"

Sad.

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Refresh me, please. Are there posters on here that think climate change isn't happening? Or do they just believe it isn't caused by man?

In true shill fashion, the deniers are now pivoting to climate change may be real but not significantly affected by man. And when that fails they then move to their next argument that china/india/developing countries are way worse so why should we change our lifestyles/society here in the west. And when that fails then they argue if you don't live completely off-grid, ride a bike everywhere, only eat vegan, then you are hypocrite and shouldn't even try to live a cleaner life. And when that fails they say the collection data and models are flawed, despite many studies and science refuting their claims. And on, and on, and on.

But really what it all boils down to is that they are change-averse. They can't handle having to adjust their decisions/lives or having the government put in place regulations that force them to think about the impacts of the status quo. They grasp with all their might to save 50k coal jobs, dying industries, and nostalgia to a bygone era when you could burn tires in your back yard, fill up with leaded gasoline, and sit by grandpas bedside while he died of black lung.

Sad. Almost feel bad for them. My only solace is that they will soon die and not have to bear the discomfort of having to breathe clean air or drink clean water... And we can all move on from their willful ignorance and join the rest of the modern world, embracing technological progress, alternative energy, building efficiency, and sustainability.

RIP deniers.

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Bernie Sanders quote defending himself.
"I’m not the most religious of folks. I don’t know if heaven exists. But if it does, then everybody has the right to eternal life there. Nobody should be “condemned” just because he doesn’t have enough money or the right skin color or doesn’t believe in the God who is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Whoever God is, I am certain that he/she/zir will save everyone, and nothing will ever convince me otherwise, not even God explicitly telling me that those who reject the salvation of Jesus will not be saved."


Give a man enough rope...  :lol:
:dunno:

Sounds fine to me. Pretty inclusive belief that if there is a "god" and "afterlife" then all people would get to go to heaven. Now about those other religions whose beliefs "condemn" other people to "hell" if they deny their form of "god"... That's pretty rough ridin' stupid.




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Wacky... Call the common one "uncle" and the gay one "guncle". TIA

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Looks like another Federal investigation is headed towards ProgLib hero Bernie Sanders and family.

Where did you read that at, Dax?

Infowars? Breitbart? Some militant preppers facebook group?

 :jeffy:

Well CAM... blah blah blah.... libtard... blah blah blah... SOCIALISTS!!!!!... blah blah blah... #chemtrails.... blah blah blah... #sandyhoax.

So you're not going to answer the question? You and Jeff Sessions.  :shakesfist:

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Looks like another Federal investigation is headed towards ProgLib hero Bernie Sanders and family.

Where did you read that at, Dax?

Infowars? Breitbart? Some militant preppers facebook group?

 :jeffy:

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Cam, the 1st amendment is about the gov not making any church or religion the official state religion. It means you can't force people to tithe or endorse one faith or another in order to hold office. Its also about the protection of worshipers of either Jesus or Alah or whomever can do so without government interference. It doesn't mean that if you hold the belief that one faith is more true than another then you cannot serve on as a public figure. That's where Sanders was treading on thin ice. He essentially said "your religion, do you believe it to be more true than others?" and if the answer was yes then he was going to go after him a bit.

Do you want a representative that believes (contrary to the constitution) that one person is inferior to another based solely on religious belief?

The "thin ice" is when you legislate legal discrimination under the guise of "religious liberty"

See, really rough ridin' juvenile.

someone who makes me uncomfortable.  :Crybaby:

:facepalm:



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Good thing this country was founded as one nation under God.

Dwight added that to the pledge in the 50s.

As Rage, astutely (smartly, wacky) points out... "under god" and "in god we trust" didn't come around until the 50's. Capitalists, McCarthyists, and evangelical preachers teamed up to fight against multi-culturalism, atheism, and the new deal.

Why bother with facts or history tho?
http://www.npr.org/2015/03/30/396365659/how-one-nation-didnt-become-under-god-until-the-50s-religious-revival

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CAM just spews forth every conceivable form of broad brush prejudice   

Sad
Coming from you and FSD...
:ROFL:



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Christians really are the biggest snowflakes. So privileged and irreverent of other people. They legitimately believe the separation of church and state doesn't apply to them. For a group so afraid of sharia law they sure do force their beliefs into governance and legislation at any opportunity they get.

Sad.

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How is Bernie like 90 years old and we just heard about him last year and now all libs think he's the saving grace to man kind? So weird and random. You say free crap and losers raise their ears everywhere. Pretty great platform if you ask me.

Wacky... You're so rough ridin' stupid, it's honestly pretty funny and endearing. Like, you must be the hardest working, boot-strapper around to be able to overcome your insane level of stupidity.

Oh and BTW, Bernie is 75 (Trump, your hero, is 70) and has more stamina and intelligence in his pinky than trump does in his entire mushy blob.

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Jesus, Bernie's a quack.

Jesus, if real, is probably with bernie.

(Unless you subscribe to republican, gun-loving, low taxes, bigoted jesus)

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Hot take... Radical fundamentalism (including some christian sects) has shown repeatedly to have very serious and damaging consequences when put in positions of power over people or large populations.  Look no further than muslims in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Syria, evangelicals in the South/rural areas in the US, zionists in Isreal, or capitalists on Wall Street.

Bernie and some on the progressive left are fighting against extreme ignorance and literalism. If only there were more like them.

How much longer does Breitbart have? When 90% of your advertisers go elsewhere your days have to be numbered.

 :clac:

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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Kansas City things
« on: June 06, 2017, 03:53:03 PM »
What are you mad about now?

Not mad... Just perplexed why the city thought this was the best way to move the airport project forward. They obviously knew better but decided to go this route anyway.

I mean, even as someone who supports a new single terminal, I question the optics and ethics involved with how this all has come about. I almost feel bad for B&M, but then I remember even they know better and could have advised the city to go with a traditional RFQ/P process (or at least asked the question).

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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Kansas City things
« on: June 06, 2017, 03:28:57 PM »

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CAM may be the biggest gurgling simpleton on this board.  Given the competition, that's pretty amazing.

Avoid, deflect and obfuscate... classic Dax.

LOL  :lol:

 :jerk:

Lol, I took you're last idiotic post point by point. 

You showed the "depth" of your "intellect" with your "at least it's a start" comment the ended with gurgling gibberish.

A non binding, unenforceable agreement is your definition of a "start".   Half of the nations that signed on to the last "binding" climate agreement have already pulled out and the United States never signed on to begin with. 

So, please parrot out something that was covered 100 pages ago.

 :ROFL:

You say I'm a gurgling simpleton when you are the one who blindly and loyally supports Trump, the true epitome of a gurgling simpleton.

Also, your "point by point" takedown, like most of the trash you spew out, is so incredibly and blatantly ill-informed and off base it is not worth my time (or others) responding or refuting it.

By the way, the darkness of your cynicism and your ready willingness to support fascists and plutocrats is frankly alarming and you should probably retreat to your bunker so as to avoid as much interaction and impact in larger society as possible. :thumbsup:

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CAM may be the biggest gurgling simpleton on this board.  Given the competition, that's pretty amazing.

Avoid, deflect and obfuscate... classic Dax.

LOL  :lol:

 :jerk:

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Answers your questions Dax and supports the Trump is a toddler loser argument

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5scez5dqtAc[/youtube]

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The United States:  Okay we're going to give somebody a lot of money, institute draconian policies that will place many of our citizens in energy poverty while killing economic growth.  Even though we don't have the faintest of clues if what we do is going to accomplish anything at all.  Oh, and through this process we're going to pump a whole bunch of money into the pockets of a very small handful of new energy oligarchs who are politically connected. 

Other noted G7 and developing countries:  Okay, sounds great Obama err the United States.  Okay, we promise to take these ideas under consideration.  We promise to show up at conferences to tell everyone how strongly we are considering making changes.  We'll then talk about some long term goals, show some really great power points and then go home and basically do nothing.   We'll assign some politicians to some committees and they'll meet (at some really nice hotels and resorts) to talk about things.  Oh, but keeping pumping that cash in there United States. 

Barrack:  Sounds like a great deal!


:dunno:
Considering the alternative this actually sounds like a lot of progress and a great framework to build from when ignoring your over-the-top exaggerations ("energy poverty", "kill economic growth", climate change denialism, etc).

I mean moving the entire world towards greater sustainability, clean alternative energy sources, reduced emissions is going to be a pretty hard, messy, and definitely not perfect at first, transition. But just like with healthcare or wall street reform, because of how large, powerful, and entrenched the status quo is, incremental progress is easier and better than doing nothing at all or doubling down on failed policies. Google, Apple, GE, Tesla, 150 Mayors, the Vatican, the rest of the planet, and most americans are all on the same page in what this was, that being a first step forward, cooperation and compromise together. But no, not to the GOP and Trump...  to them itt was a "bad deal" (not for the rest of us but for their oil gas extraction buddies).

Silver-lining in this all is that Trump is becoming the villain that everyone can rally against. It's almost as if he watched the classic oscar Willis film Unbreakable and thought to himself, "I have to be as bad a president as I possibly can be so that the best heros will emerge to take me down". I'm an optimist in that I still have hope in humanity. Trump, the GOP, Putin, Alex Jones,  David Duke, Dax, KSU-W, Reno, FSD, Emo, etc... they all are pessimists that want to regress society (and the world) back to barbaric tribalism. It's the only way they feel they will maintain their "superiority" to young people, LGBT, women, muslims, europeans, asians, jews, moderates, the pope, liberals, progressives, uppity blacks, regular everyday americans, etc...

It's really sad we will have to endure the consequences of their intellectually and philosophically corrupt and bankrupt decisions for decades to come.

 :fan-1:

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Quote
"I believe there's climate change. I believe there's been climate change since the beginning of time," Walberg said. "Do I think man has some impact? Yeah, of course. Can man change the entire universe? No." He continued: "Why do I believe that? Well, as a Christian, I believe that there is a creator in God who is much bigger than us. And I'm confident that, if there's a real problem, he can take care of it."

nothing to worry about dudes
http://time.com/4800000/tim-walberg-god-climate-change/

God gave us cars and the oil/gas/coal in the ground... we would be spiting God if we didn't use them. And the arrogance of thinking we affect anything or have the power to impact the climate. We can do whatever we want as this is our dominion and God will just fix it all. Faith alone is our salvation. #MAGA

/s

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