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TCU is killing it according to this site

Revenue for all women's sports
TCU: $22,829,737
KU: $5,115,592
Oklahoma State: $4,594,558
Iowa State: $2,934,863
KSU: $684,244

Revenue for men's sports other than FB/BB
TCU: $12,089,766
Oklahoma State: $6,243,409
KU: $2,547,981
Iowa State: $579,822
KSU: $418,239

There is exactly zero possibility that TCU made $22 million on women's sports unless a $21.5 million donation/gift was allocated to that revenue line.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: PORTAL KOMBAT
« on: April 18, 2024, 03:18:54 PM »
He doesn't fit what Tang wants to do.  He can't shoot a lick from outside of 2 feet.

Well, neither could Colbert...

I just hope we don't strike out too many times and/or wait too long and then end up with a few McNairs. One would be fine as a complimentary piece, but we've got to do better this year.

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: KSU Booze Cats
« on: April 18, 2024, 12:20:19 PM »
Our pitching has been absolutely dreadful the last three weeks - we're now last in the Big 12 in conference games in ERA at 6.67. Our starters have been a big part of that - Boerema has the best ERA at 5.59. It doesn't help that our two bullpen studs - Neighbors and Wentworth - have been getting rocked lately as well.

I suppose I could make a comment about having a high school assistant coach as our pitching coach...

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The whole vibe from this project that I get from Goff was basically to just get the thing rolling and then assume the necessary $$$ would come.

I mean, they've been talking about this for decades, so I get where he's coming from in the sense that actually doing something - anything - was progress.

But, it sure seems like there hasn't been as much progress on the $$$ front as they would have liked...

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Not an overwhelmingly positive article about the developments of the new stadium that features, among other things, further reduced stadium capacity and admission that the "hotel/entertainment district" component of the complex is on hold because "we can't afford it yet."

https://www2.kusports.com/weblogs/2024/apr/17/seating-at-kus-revamped-football-stadium-to-shrink-by-a-few-thousand-seats-other-updates-on-gateway-project/

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: KSU Booze Cats
« on: April 17, 2024, 03:54:59 PM »
Bottom of the eighth vs. Northeastern goes like this:

*NU hit by pitch
*NU hit by pitch
*NU players advance to 2nd/3rd on balk
*NU hit by pitch
*K-State pitching change (Neighbors for Roberts)
*NU reaches on throwing error by 3B; 3 runs score, batter advances to third
*NU single, run scores
*NU out
*NU out
*NU out

4 runs, 0 earned runs, 1 hit, 1 error, 1 LOB

Now 8-6 KSU into the bottom of the 9th...

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: KSU Booze Cats
« on: April 17, 2024, 08:20:25 AM »
Lost at UConn.  Hughes is as good as gone.  That’s is if we care about not sucking total crap.

We'll see... Mean Gene gave him an extension after the 2022 season (presumably because Hughes has compromising photos of Taylor) through the 2027 season. That totally deserved extension was after Hughes finished 29-29 and 8-16 in Big 12 play in 2022 and missed the postseason for the third time in three seasons. He's making $550k+ per season - no idea what the buyout is.

But, given that Hughes received that extension in the first place, I'm not sure baseball is a major priority for Taylor. Hughes is now on track to miss the NCAA tourney for the 22nd time in his 25 years as a D1 head baseball coach.

Meanwhile, KSU alum/heartthrob Rob Vaughn is already turning around Alabama in his first year after leading Maryland to the NCAA tourney three straight years and winning two Big Ten titles. Sadly, he's now making close to $1 million per year, so probably out of our price range (though, at the time Taylor gave Hughes the extension, Hughes was making $100k+ more than Vaughn).

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: KSU Booze Cats
« on: April 14, 2024, 08:52:32 PM »
1-7 in Big 12 play since our freshman ran his mouth and we've been outscored 74-39 in that stretch and lost three straight series.

Poor pitching, untimely hitting, loads of base running mistakes - Pete Hughes baseball is back.

The one slight positive is that, for the most part, we've stopped losing scores of mid-week games, which could be our saving grace for a tourney bid if we can manage to be around .500 in league play.

Up next - a bizarre mid-week trip to UConn on Tuesday and Northeastern on Wednesday. UConn is #81 in RPI and Northeastern is #36 (and has made the NCAA tourney 2 of the last 3 years). So, an opportunity for a pair of decent wins, but then we turnaround and play a top 25 Okie State team at home this weekend on 1 day's rest (if that even counts because it's the travel day on Thursday).

For anyone keeping track, our travel schedule over a stretch of 18 days:

Manhattan (vs. Texas) to Springfield, Mo. (vs. Mo State) to Orlando (vs. UCF) to Manhattan (vs. Wichita St.) to Norman (vs. OU) to Storrs (vs. UConn) to Boston (vs. Northeastern) to Manhattan (vs. Okie State). I sure hope there's some charter flying in there vs. entirely commercial...

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Kansas State Football / Re: Wild Wildcats in NFL Draft
« on: April 14, 2024, 12:27:27 PM »
Final rankings from ESPN's other guy:

63.Beebe (No. 1 OG)
90.Sinnott
235.Leveston
318.Duke

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: ksu ladycats
« on: April 09, 2024, 10:43:23 PM »
It'd be nice to have that added experience. But we'll see

We have 3 senior guards

HVL would almost certainly cost development time for Sides, but, conceptually, I very much like the idea of playing SS off ball a bit more - especially when she goes on TO frenzies (seems like they always happen in bunches).

Moving Serena off the ball would be nice, but Mittie is absolutely not going to do that. When either of the freshmen guards came in he still had Serena bring the ball up and initiate the offense. The point about HVL taking away minutes from the freshmen guards is my greatest reservation about her. It just doesn't make sense to me. If anything we need to be looking for a small forward to replace Gregory, but it looks like we are gonna roll with 3 combo guards and two bigs.

Agree with all of that - just wish Mittie would take a look at usage rates at make an effort to cut them down - especially for SS and JG. Hopefully next year he'll have more trust in Sides (or whomever else is on the team) as a primary ball handler.

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: ksu ladycats
« on: April 09, 2024, 01:02:32 PM »
HVL would almost certainly cost development time for Sides, but, conceptually, I very much like the idea of playing SS off ball a bit more - especially when she goes on TO frenzies (seems like they always happen in bunches).

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: ksu ladycats
« on: April 07, 2024, 08:17:28 PM »
Lee wasn't on the WNBA draft list, so she's either coming back or moving on from basketball...

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rumblings that the leverage play is not for more salary but nil money

If that's true, that's great for us (assuming we can make it happen)

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Mercury guy saying Tang is one of two finalists for Arkansas job...

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: ksu ladycats
« on: April 05, 2024, 08:29:24 AM »
Is that the Mittie version of the Tang bat signal?

Maybe Lee's coming back?

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: The Royals
« on: April 04, 2024, 09:25:00 PM »
Lucas made a comment at some point recently about not wanting the East Village location because the Royals planned to build some kind of entertainment district adjacent to it. His point was that a new entertainment district would cannibalize some of the $$$ from Power and Light because they'd only be a few blocks away (separated by the interstate, but still not too far away). Given that Power and Light hasn't come close to revenue projections and the city has already spent $150+ million covering its debts, his point is understandable.

And, Sherman referencing the "creative" people at the city convincing them that the Crossroads was viable probably includes Lucas because the odds of this passing if Lucas wasn't in favor would have been even worse.

Regardless, there will probably need to be some major adjustments to the East Village plan for Lucas to get onboard.

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: The Royals
« on: April 04, 2024, 12:29:47 PM »
So is Smellinger gonna get canned for this? Seems like he did he job poorly.


As the royals' VP of communications, he absolutely should be. In his defense, the royals probably put him in a bad place by constantly changing plans. But the only thing I've seen from him on twitter was amplifying a bullshit story about voters being turned away from the polls for wearing chiefs/royals gear. Inexplicable.

Yeah, he was put in a shitty spot, but maybe he hired all the dumbasses that worked on this shitty campaign.  :dunno:

Not saying he isn't culpable, but ...

Royals’ and Chiefs’ ‘vote yes’ tax campaign is headed by former Ron DeSantis strategist
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article286880825.html

The assumption that sports writers/columnists - often the laziest cross-section of "journalists" who are spoonfed 95% of what they write about - can just stroll into a corporate comms job and know what they're doing from the outset is... something.

That said, in this case, Mellinger was likely just along for the ride with other people calling the shots and him following orders. He might have had some input, but I doubt it was substantive.

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Enjoy reading about it because this thing ain't happening...



Inside the college football ‘Super League,’ one powerful group’s idea to fix a ‘dead’ system

By Andrew Marchand and Stewart Mandel
Apr 3, 2024


One league overseeing college football’s highest level. No more conferences as we’ve known them. Playoff berths being decided solely on the field. Promotion and relegation for smaller schools. Players being paid directly. NIL and the transfer portal, managed.

A group of influential leaders wants to make all this happen soon — and they are pitching it as the best way forward for a sport they believe needs saving.

Several college presidents, Roger Goodell’s primary lieutenant at the NFL and some of sports’ top executives have devised a plan — dubbed by outsiders as a “Super League” — to completely transform college football, those involved in the group “College Sports Tomorrow” (CST) told The Athletic. Although the plan has drawn skepticism from within the sport’s current institutions, the people behind the ideas believe they must be implemented.

“The current model for governing and managing college athletics is dead,” Syracuse chancellor Kent Syverud told The Athletic during an interview.

West Virginia president Gordon Gee added, “We are in an existential crisis.”

Syverud and Gee are part of CST, a 20-person group which also includes the NFL’s No. 2 executive Brian Rolapp, Philadelphia 76ers owner David Blitzer and lead organizer Len Perna of TurnkeyZRG, the search firm that places nearly all the top conference commissioners, including recently the Big Ten’s Tony Petitti.

They are trying to implement a drastically new system that would replace the NCAA and the College Football Playoff and potentially provide a solution for the hurricane of current and future lawsuits aimed at the business of the sport, plus the NIL and transfer portal issues that, they believe, have put college athletics as a whole in peril.

The current CST outline would create a system that would have the top 70 programs — all members of the five former major conferences, plus Notre Dame and new ACC member SMU — as permanent members and encompass all 130-plus FBS universities.

The perpetual members would be in seven 10-team divisions, joined by an eighth division of teams that would be promoted from the second tier.

The 50-plus second-division teams would have the opportunity to compete their way into the upper division, creating a promotion system similar to the structure in European football leagues. The 70 permanent teams would never be in danger of moving down, while the second division would have the incentive of promotion and relegation.

The playoffs would not require a selection committee, as the eight division winners and eight wild cards from the top tier would go to the postseason. The wild-card spots would be determined by record and tiebreakers, much like the NFL.

CST borrows ideas from leagues like the NFL, Premier League and MLS to create a system that they believe would bring more television value and sustainability. Not coincidentally, some of its most influential members have direct ties to those leagues.

Thus far, the group is struggling to gain traction with the schools that would play in their proposed “Super League.” The ACC board of directors heard a presentation from the group in February. However, planned dinners with administrators from the Big Ten, SEC and Big 12 all were called off. Spokespersons for the Big Ten and SEC said commissioners Petitti and Greg Sankey, respectively, have not met with Perna’s group.

Leagues have been hesitant and canceled meetings so as not to upset their current broadcast partners, including ESPN and Fox, according to one executive briefed on the commissioners’ thoughts.

Chief among the obstacles this new venture faces are the billions of dollars in TV deals that all the top conferences have locked in with the major networks: ESPN/ABC, Fox, NBC and CBS. The FBS conferences recently signed off on a six-year, $7.8 billion extension with ESPN for the exclusive rights to the expanded College Football Playoff.

The Big Ten’s deals run through the 2029-30 season, the Big 12’s run through 2030-31 and the SEC’s exclusive deal with ESPN runs through 2033-34. One TV executive called the idea that there is a lot more untapped money in the market “naive.” One CST executive said that the major networks with existing deals would likely need to buy into the plan before it could go to the open market in the 2030s.

Universities would own a percentage of the league, a model derived from MLS where it was devised by former president Mark Abbott, who is involved with CST. Unlike the soccer league, the revenue distribution would not be an even split among all competitors, as top brands like Alabama and Notre Dame would receive more of the financial pie. CST believes there would be added value in negotiating TV deals as one entity and creating broadcast windows that make more sense, much like the NFL’s approach.

While the CST model would eliminate the longtime conference structure for football, it would create one entity to negotiate with a prospective union that would represent the players on NIL, transfer portal and salary structure rules. This embrace of collective bargaining could allow it to avoid the antitrust issues that have limited the NCAA’s ability to enforce its own rules.

“The only way to solve the problem is to have a solution that is legally defensible, politically acceptable, commercially prudent and is able to strike a partnership with student athletes in a way that’s really good for them,” Perna told The Athletic.

College administrators are particularly concerned about the House v. NCAA class-action suit in Northern California, seeking NIL revenue denied to athletes prior to 2021 rule changes. If the plaintiffs are successful, the NCAA and the power conferences could be on the hook for billions in damages. The House case is one of several potentially crippling federal antitrust suits related to athlete employment rights and NIL compensation.

“I really think conferences in the NCAA are at a very significant likelihood of going bankrupt in the near future because of the lawsuits, both the ones that are going to trial soon and those that will follow,” Syverud said.

Perna started on the project three years ago and is viewed as its figurehead. He is well-connected in college sports through his role at Turnkey.

According to two executives briefed on the proposal, one reason the FBS commissioners last month self-imposed a March 15 deadline to approve the six-year College Football Playoff extension was to stave off CST’s push. During The Athletic’s reporting, executives involved in college football were inquiring, “What do you know about the Perna/Rolapp group?” They conveyed alarm about what could be formulated, along with doubt as to why this group would be the one to solve the complex issues facing the NCAA.

While critics in media and college sports who have heard about CST have warned of private equity’s involvement, Perna insisted this is not a money-making venture for the individuals in his group. He said CST raised initial money to pay for fees incurred but declined to say how much. The plan is for the new format to create more revenue on the premise that there is more TV money to be generated in a model comparable to the NFL’s TV setup.

“We’ve been looking at something that’s large enough that it gives everybody a chance to compete, and that does translate into about 70 schools,” Syverud said. “That also creates content that’s more valuable so that it generates the resources to do more things that the university presidents think are important for college sports. It is not the case that the money to do what’s right for our college athletes in football is just going to emerge from nowhere. Somehow it has to be generated. That’s what we are trying to figure out, as well.”

Multiple prominent college leaders in recent months have spoken bluntly about a future in which schools directly pay their players. Private equity funding could provide schools an influx of capital to address those legal matters and competitively compensate their athletes, in return for a stake in the schools’ athletics business.

One top college football administrator claimed CST is trying to “buy college football.” CST countered that it is only trying to create a system for football that in turn would result in the finances needed for non-revenue-generating sports to survive and thrive. Under the plans, the non-football sports would stay in their current conference structure.

“Athletes need to be paid and are going to be paid,” Syverud said. “Most of the rules against paying athletes, including some of those that are still in place, are likely to fall in the courts. We’re going to need to sustain women’s sports, Olympic sports and we’re going to have to have competitive equity and some methods to have a labor structure that is sensible. For all that, I think you need a more centralized national college league.”

CST is not alone in trying to find solutions. The SEC and Big Ten, the two most powerful football conferences, have formed an advisory alliance focused on “a sustainable future of college sports,” as one clear example. At least one school, Florida State, has been actively exploring a private equity partnership of its own.

Rolapp’s involvement in CST has raised eyebrows. He was the mastermind of the NFL’s current $110 billion in TV deals and has been sought for top college commissioner jobs. While it is in the best interest of the NFL to have its feeder system of college football be strong, executives briefed on Rolapp’s role insist the league is not involved. Rolapp declined to comment.

CST leaders maintain their intentions are pure — and that they are in a hurry to get going. An avalanche of legal activity could dramatically increase the likelihood that their plan or something like it could take hold. Even prior to that day of potential foundational change, CST wants to lead from the front, not behind.

“Speed is our friend,” Gee said. “We don’t have a lot of time to waste.”

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: LOL TRUMP
« on: April 03, 2024, 06:18:53 PM »
Noob on the stock market, but couldn't the inverse of the Game Stop dealio happen here? A bunch of "libtards" all short the hell out of the stock and then it collapses?

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: PORTAL KOMBAT
« on: April 03, 2024, 12:41:47 PM »
Now Zeke Mayo am belong to us.

Personally, I will never, ever get tired of that amazing reference

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: The Royals
« on: April 03, 2024, 12:40:23 PM »
i'm sad it didn't pass.

i don't think the chiefs go anywhere, but i think there's a decent chance KC loses the royals because of this.

Less than 1%

FWIW, Sherman was asked about this at some point in the last week (can't remember what outlet) and his response was "Kansas City is my hometown."

I suppose his credibility is what it is at this point.

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: The Royals
« on: April 03, 2024, 08:27:48 AM »
i’m glad it failed if for no other reason than how bad that the chiefs proposal was. they should be embarrassed by their proposal.

anyway, i’d like to see subsequent discussions whereby the two teams are disconnected from each other.  the royals are going to take another swing at this next year and if they spend just a few minutes on it, instead of the zero minutes that was spent this go round, i’m sure it will pass.  but i’ll reiterate, they did themselves no favors attaching themselves to the 10 ton anchor that was the Chiefs’ dogshit ideas. 

inept laziness asking for a cool half billion with the lack of real effort going into this ask of kc.

There's some truth here - especially the bit about both teams just assuming they could trot out a pile of dog crap and it would pass - but I actually think if the Royals had gone with the East Village site that this is exactly what would have happened and it would have passed.

When the Royals turned their sights on the Crossroads - and the very engaged community that lives/works/plays there - they unleashed fury/anger about billionaire entitlement, etc. The East Village site would have had none of that element - if for no other reason than the Royals/city have been buying up property in that area for years. It also had the benefit of being able to say "urban redevelopment" because the space was largely devoid of anything whereas it was the complete opposite scenario in the Crossroads.

The effort from both teams was so poor that it ALMOST (but doesn't) makes me wonder if this was the desired outcome because it now gives them a pass to do whatever they want... "We TRIED to stay in Jackson County, but the voters said no. Now, we need to move to (insert: Kansas, Northland, etc.) because they actually want us."

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: ksu ladycats
« on: March 30, 2024, 02:41:21 PM »
Per Mittie on the baseball broadcast today, he and Lee had coffee this week and he said they're aiming for a decision to come back (or not) by April 8-10. Didn't hint one way or the other...

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Kansas State Football / Re: Wild Wildcats in the NFL
« on: March 30, 2024, 01:25:38 PM »
Don't know where to put this, but Adrian Martinez playing QB for the Birmingham team in the new XFL/USFL combo league

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