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Disappointing end this last season, but yea I think it would have been better if Thompson would have been healthy. I'm not leaning one way or the other with Klieman.Hot take
Even if true, still no bcs wins :(Even if we win the next two (which would be awesome with beating an undefeated TCU and maybe Bama) it's hard to place this above 2012 let along some of the 97/98 times. We just stumbled enough at certain points in the season to make it go from "good" to "holy crap we're serious national contenders"
That being said, I'll be extremely pleased with an 11-3 season, and even a 10-4 would be looked back upon fondly, especially if we follow up with a great year next year
If we win the next 2, it will be the best season in the history of K-State football.
Very depressing, but fair.See lots of tweets of players declaring for the portal. What position\players would be on our wish list?
Massive needs are WR, LB, OL, DL, CB, probably RB. Basically everything.
Really wish we had at least 1 returning WR that had any sort of production this year.
Green leaves a big hole at LB, luckily Austin Moore has been good this year and Purnell has filled in nicely.
Lose Duffie, Leveston, (maybe) beebe, and Gillum at OL
Lose Huggins and Hentz at DT, FAU and Pickle at DE
Definitely losing Brentz, maybe Boye-Doe at CB. Those dudes played like 95% of snaps and covered up a lot of flaws in the defense.
We'll have Giddens, Frias, and Freshman Joe Jackson at RB. Pretty thin.
They have a lot of work to do. hopefully some of the RS freshman will be ready to step in and play at a high level.
Was just reading some Olds posts on the phog about this. Sounds like some fights and boot barfin may have happened too.2004 in Lawrence was a night game. I remember, because it was depressing. Also, 2010 too. The juke game. That might have been a Thursday night game tho.Look at us getting top billing.
I think it might be the first ever saturday night game edition of the sunflower showdown
2004 was the last one you are right. 2010 was a Thursday night game.
Not sure of the year but it should have been the early '80s when KSU wore the alternate uniforms for the first time (mauve jerseys). That game was a Sat night under temporary lights. I believe the first "night" KSU/the other KS team was in 1947. Don't know how they pulled that off but apparently they did.
Do we get more money if they make a bowl? Trying to weigh that against the schadenfreude of missing out on a bowl game.I think smaller bowl money, and then some, get spent by the attending teams.
I go to another forum unrelated to sports or crypto and this topic was brought up. It's devolved into a crypto bashing instead of discussing the apparent scam that so happened in the crypto sector.I don't trust my own judgement on stuff like this, but I would think that other coins going down would ultimately be good for Bitcoin.I think that’s right. And I have a long and storied history of profiting from crypto currency so my opinion has value.
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I think it's bad, because it gives the impression to potential investors that all crypto is ultimately useless garbage.
I'd be surprised.How much are we going to have to pay to keep Klanderman?
You don't really get into a bidding war for coordinators. Just like Jim Knowles with Oklahoma State last season, if one of the big boys want to give your coordinator $2 million, you tip your hat, wish him luck, and believe in the other coaches in the room who helped with the game plans
Klieman is the secret sauce on defense, he will be able to replace Klandy if he gets poached. Klein on the other hand…
I think we pay Klein. He’s our next head coach.
I'm confident that Klein is only leaving to be a head coach, I don't have that same confidence about Klanderman.
Yes. How long until his profile surpasses what Hazelton’s was when he left for Mich St? It’s getting close imo. Maybe one more year of success.
I think Klein is smart enough to know he will need several years of successful OCing before he's ready for a head coaching position. I also think he knows how incredibly lucky and grateful he should be to have his first coaching gig be at a P5 program.
He’s not lucky, he put his nuts on the table when Messingham was let go and went and took the OC position. I think he could have a P5 HC job offer as early as next year.
We have nfl talent on the defense at all three levels. Makes a big difference. Also a lot of experienceAgreed. Don't want to use that to degrade Klanderman, either. Defense is pretty damn good this year, will be interesting how he does next year after losing key pieces(assuming he's still here).
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Without comparing metrics, feels like our defense is much better this year than any other during Klieman's tenure. Hard to say how much of that is talent vs coaching. Two shutouts this year with several other games with less than 14 allowed is pretty good.How much are we going to have to pay to keep Klanderman?
You don't really get into a bidding war for coordinators. Just like Jim Knowles with Oklahoma State last season, if one of the big boys want to give your coordinator $2 million, you tip your hat, wish him luck, and believe in the other coaches in the room who helped with the game plans
Klieman is the secret sauce on defense, he will be able to replace Klandy if he gets poached. Klein on the other hand…
I think we pay Klein. He’s our next head coach.
I'm confident that Klein is only leaving to be a head coach, I don't have that same confidence about Klanderman.
Yes. How long until his profile surpasses what Hazelton’s was when he left for Mich St? It’s getting close imo. Maybe one more year of success.
Nothing has really changed. Our ceiling is the same today as it was then.I’d rather have two stabs at making the playoffs with howard than try to win a conference championship this yearYou have to play for this season, which is completely obvious. But to play along, I don't think we're just going to reload what we're likely to lose after this year.
I agree, he should’ve started against texas but our coaches didn’t see it that way.
I’d rather have two stabs at making the playoffs with howard than try to win a conference championship this yearYou have to play for this season, which is completely obvious. But to play along, I don't think we're just going to reload what we're likely to lose after this year.
I think deep down everyone knows Will is the guy going forward.Not rankings, but B12 point differential. TCU and KSU separating ourselves as the cream of the conference. I think we beat them in a rematch.
TCU +78
KSU +76
Texas +60
Baylor +18
Tech -1
KU -7
ISU -17
OSU -38
OU -69
WVU -90
If William Howard is really going to redshirt we aren’t beating them in a rematch
I blame all of you (but mostly stevedave) for my imminent financial ruin.Yea fu guys. Heloc well spent my ass.