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I think the OCs are at least partially responsible for the 20 car wrecks a game.

Coleman, yes, he's the play caller. That doesn't have anything to do with Klein developing QBs though.

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Rusty's fascination with Klein and the quarterbacks is confounding, for about half a dozen reasons.

Huh

Haven't you posted something similar about Klein and the QBs more than once?

Maybe??? :dunno:

I definitely have posted about our QB's not being very good (should be uncontroversial) and accused someone of being racist when they suggested Klein should be in the booth calling plays and Coleman should be on the sideline being emotional. I also may have posted that Klein's history as a player does not make him a better coach. (I've certainly thought it regardless)

Whatever you think about our quarterbacks, I'm not sure how you can attribute any of it to Klein. You're not going to get any development when the offense requires the QB to have 20 car wrecks every game. The last quarterback to play for LHC Bill Snyder that didn't end the year hurt was Carson Coffman. Even in the two best QB years since Klein left, Waters in '14 and Sisco in '16, were had with those dudes being injured.

That's definitely fair. Does Coleman get a pass for lackluster WR play and attrition as well?

If you believe the rumors that he's the reason for the attrition, no he doesn't get a pass. I do like him as a play caller though. He got a lot better with the experience of the season. He called damn near perfect games against Tech and ISU.

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Kansas State Football / Re: boring friday ranking ...
« on: December 14, 2018, 10:39:46 PM »
How'd you rank the other schools as far as likability, one to nine:

1. ISU - they are us


Get mumped

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Rusty's fascination with Klein and the quarterbacks is confounding, for about half a dozen reasons.

Huh

Haven't you posted something similar about Klein and the QBs more than once?

Maybe??? :dunno:

I definitely have posted about our QB's not being very good (should be uncontroversial) and accused someone of being racist when they suggested Klein should be in the booth calling plays and Coleman should be on the sideline being emotional. I also may have posted that Klein's history as a player does not make him a better coach. (I've certainly thought it regardless)

Whatever you think about our quarterbacks, I'm not sure how you can attribute any of it to Klein. You're not going to get any development when the offense requires the QB to have 20 car wrecks every game. The last quarterback to play for LHC Bill Snyder that didn't end the year hurt was Carson Coffman. Even in the two best QB years since Klein left, Waters in '14 and Sisco in '16, were had with those dudes being injured.

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Rusty's fascination with Klein and the quarterbacks is confounding, for about half a dozen reasons.

Huh

Haven't you posted something similar about Klein and the QBs more than once?

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: Volleyball
« on: December 13, 2018, 08:42:44 PM »
Kansas City is by no means a volleyball hotbed, Jesus Christ. Kansas City has very good club and youth programs but they aren't producing any more division 1 talent than similar sized Midwestern cities.
Wrong, the Heart of America only trails SoCal, Texas and Florida in strength.  Might wanna check out the All American teams posted earlier for several prominent players that came from the KC area.  The Final Four this weekend features 2 starters from Illinois, 2 starters from Nebraska & 2 starters from Stanford all from the Heart of America region.  Minnesota who was a favorite for the Final Four also has 2 starters from the KC area.  Jesus Christ, I think the area might be a little better than “good”.


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You said Kansas City, not Heart of America. HOA is, geographically, one of the largest regions in USAV. You didn't dispute anything about Kansas City having more or less D1 athletes than similarly sized metro areas.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Win the Dang Day.
« on: December 13, 2018, 08:26:43 PM »
I hope those of you who constantly cried about FAMILY are happy now.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Win the Dang Day.
« on: December 13, 2018, 08:25:35 PM »
Just do it, dangit.

         - Coach Kli

Fixed

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Regarding Klein - our QB's have been pretty awful


Yeah, my vote would be for the NDSU QB coach that developed Wentz.  However, I think Klein would be a good TE type of coach that spends a lot of time recruiting.  He is still a name that can get in most doors in Kansas and surrounding states.

You think a FCS quarterback coach is responsible for one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL?

Rusty's fascination with Klein and the quarterbacks is confounding, for about half a dozen reasons.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Win the Dang Day.
« on: December 13, 2018, 08:19:25 PM »
Being trademarked by athletic department. Merch coming soon.

And no, Nike has not called.


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Indefensible

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Kansas State Football / Re: LHC LHC Bill Snyder
« on: December 13, 2018, 08:17:17 PM »
I think the ncaa has a fund for emergency situations like like and might also allow a school to help

They do, as does K-State, the students helping students fund from K-State proud, not sure why they didn't use that.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Win the Dang Day.
« on: December 13, 2018, 01:27:39 PM »
I had a middle school football coach and his thing was "knock their dicks down," he would say it in the locker room before every game.

My high school coach said "put their dicks in the dirt". I think we should go with "kill the dang dicks".

That was it, that's what he said! When I read your post I immediately heard it in his accent. He was like from Oklahoma or something and he had a crooked neck from a car accident and I think he fake baked.

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I can't decide if we can move the ball and score enough with Coleman/Klein........not even sure who we need in the OC spot.... :dunno:

Well if the choice is Coleman/Klein or a guy that Paul Rhodes had to fire, it seems like a damn easy choice.

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Not only was he Proud Paul's OC, but it appears as if he was fired.

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Messingham came to NDSU from Montana State, where he was the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach in 2016.  He was the offensive and special teams quality control coach at Indiana in 2014 and 2015 after spending five seasons at Iowa State from 2009-2013 coaching tight ends (2009-2010), wide receivers (2011) and two years as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach (2012-2013).

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Kansas State Football / Re: Win the Dang Day.
« on: December 13, 2018, 01:02:21 PM »
I had a middle school football coach and his thing was "knock their dicks down," he would say it in the locker room before every game.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Win the Dang Day.
« on: December 13, 2018, 12:57:00 PM »
I think it's lame and a rip off

He wasn't ripping anything off, he didn't ask 33 to make a shirt. He was using cliches when talking to his football team. You can't want more access then be bitter when that allows you to hear a football coach sound like a football coach.

I don't really care about access as long as we're winning.  If we suck then yes, blast us with this crap 24/7 so we have something to make fun of/talk about.

When LHC Bill Snyder's teams sucked it was the absolute worst because all we ever saw was the crap product on the field.

And people are acting like "Win the dang day" is like his schtick, maybe it isn't but if it is, it's lame and a rip off.

Point was that I don't think he intended it to be "his thing," it's just that our rubes ate it up. Think about this, he said that his assistant coach or whatever said that at NDSU and even those corny ass southern Manitobans didn't think it was noteworthy enough to mention. Guy is here for 24 hours and our fans are acting like adding the word dang to a common phrase is the second coming of Churchill.

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I really really really don't want the NDSU offensive coordinator. For those who don't know he was Proud Paul's OC.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Win the Dang Day.
« on: December 13, 2018, 11:58:04 AM »
I think that this year is a free pass from our fans. Year 3 we need to have success, but I don’t think the fans will turn quickly.

Ron Prince didn't make it a full 3 years, and he never did worse than 5-7. Just saying...
Ron Prince had horrible assistant retention and some "Ron Prince Stories" rumored. Also black, which I think played an unfortunate role in many fan's willingness to give him any benefit of the doubt.

Literally the only K-State forum where one can make this very obvious point without a white guy mass meltdown.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Win the Dang Day.
« on: December 13, 2018, 11:56:36 AM »
I think it's lame and a rip off

He wasn't ripping anything off, he didn't ask 33 to make a shirt. He was using cliches when talking to his football team. You can't want more access then be bitter when that allows you to hear a football coach sound like a football coach.

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Kansas State Football / Re: This is Very Fishy
« on: December 13, 2018, 11:50:30 AM »
So few people seem to understand the obvious:  the Chris Klieman hire actually started with the Gene Taylor hire.  Taylor was hired to get Klieman, it was the plan all along.  There were interviews for the window dressing of the process, but Klieman was targeted years ago.  We hired Taylor so we could hire Klieman.

Explain how that's obvious, like how does that make any sense at all? What if Matt Campbell ended up at Tennessee last year and flood aggie offered Klieman a job?

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: December 12, 2018, 11:39:40 PM »
So Nebraska was his only P5 offer and NDSU have already offered him so this makes me think whomever his recruiter was will be on staff here.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: December 12, 2018, 11:34:13 PM »
So we are going in on Nebraska commits now. 


?s=21

https://247sports.com/Player/Matthew-Anderson-46054528/
not sure why. this kid has been committed to neb since june. he is actively recruiting others to neb. his family has already bought all their gear. this seems like a complete waste of time. wondering if there some other strategic reason for throwing this offer out. maybe for future reasons? not sure
but this kid looks as solid on his commit as solid could possibly be

It's just an offer. I know we're not used to it but programs like ours offer everybody. Matt Campbell gives out like 600 a year, that's not an exaggeration. It's hire they got Brock Purdy, they offer everyone. Dumbass, Tom Herman, in the all-time record for beefing down, whined at a press conference about how many offers Iowa State gives.

Side note, but I got into a protracted conversation in a comment thread in a K-State article. The commenter was talking about how it is hard for K-State to even get recruits to visit campus. I essentially asked him how in the hell he could know how hard it is to recruit to Manhattan given Snyder's philosophy was just to not recruit in season. The guy couldn't wrap his head around what I was saying, he thought I was lying. People actually think it's harder to get kids to Manhattan as opposed to Ames, Stillwater, Morgantown, Pullman, Oxford, Starkville, etc. They literally don't know that Bill hardly offered any scholarships at all. It was eye opening for me that people actually think Manhattan is in Slovakia or some crap.

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Kansas State Football / Re: This is Very Fishy
« on: December 12, 2018, 11:16:51 PM »
 
Bitching about the buyout isn't so much bitching about that little aspect, but about why an entire new contract was done at all at that time.  The reality is that Gene/KSU had all the leverage.  Again, the rollover thing was nonsense.  Bill's employment effectively ended 1/31/18.  If Gene had his guy all along, canning his ass then would've been prudent, not just saving money but also not letting 2018 and eventually losing to iowa state happen.



I don't envision any scenario in which Gene had any leverage on LHC Bill Snyder before the total circus of this season happened. I don't even think the wins and losses are what swung the pendulum but the players leaving is what did it. It was the lying empty threat of Shannon Spradling come to life but it was actually happening. Our current scholarship numbers are disastrous.

I asked the first two because of Gene's "financial parameters" comment from a day or two ago.  As you know, I've always felt that it's wise to break the bank on a stud football coach because it's a great investment.  I wish we'd have put it out there that KSU is interested in whipping ass at football and if you can do that, holler at us because we're paying.  Gene's comment, what Klieman got, and who's known to have been considered and not considered indicate we did the opposite.

Yeah, that would have been nice, he would have had to have gotten donor assurances to make that happen though. As much as I would have loved to have him, I don't think paying Dino Babers $4.3 million and the staff another $2.7 along with about $10 million in buyouts for two staffs would be worth cost of the title IX lawsuit for taking the needed money from Olympic sports because Carl Ice didn't want to fork over the cash.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: December 12, 2018, 10:16:36 PM »
I love Barnes, but I don't see legit NFL ability. I'd prefer to be wrong.
i don't think barnes gets drafted. he's not fast or elusive
but med school might work
local KC high school player jayden russell is busy on twitter trying to get every kansas high school target to go to kansas. he's trying to flip the lawrence kids and get corcoran and others to help build kansas.
i'd like to know what these other kids think about that

Probably laughing at his no offer having ass.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Win the Dang Day.
« on: December 12, 2018, 10:15:41 PM »
It'll be interesting to see if KSU tries to shut down local entrepreneurs making bootleg WTD stuff under the premise that it's KSU's thing.

I'd be willing to bet Nike has already called. They clearly have an interest in making sure we aren't shitting on Oregon's plate.

Kietzman was talking about how much K-State will be using WTDD. It's amazing how stupid he is.
He really is a DF, but he made a good point on Gene going all out on this hire and risking his future for it. Shut down Petro’s dumb crap about Sean.

Didn't hear what Petro said about Sean but I'm sure it was half-cocked and moronic. I wanted Klieman to hire Sean, we absolutely won't find a better special teams coach. I didn't know until today that they were using Braet as an assistant special teams coach, I'd be interested in knowing just how exposed he was to the special teams coaching and processes.

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