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gE is perfectly sized and aggregated imo


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Agreed, those 6 page in one day threads on kso generally don't provide any more information. The biggest thread about Coleman Hawkins is 9/10 about mustard.

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whoa.

i wish i could watch the wire for the first time again.


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I think it took me 4 failed attempts to get into The Wire before it stuck. Problem being that I almost always am multitasking with the TV on, and the show takes about 3 or 4 episodes of slow-burn world building before you can get into it. You actually have to pay attention.

I think I’ve said this before here, but I’ve gotten 5-6 episodes into The Wire & I just can’t keep going. It’s like a TBS knock off of what everyone claims it’s supposed to be.

I also did my future self if favor by not watching GOT until a few months before the final season started, so that was a good few months of catching up right into the end.

The Wire, like most David Simon shows, is an incredibly slow burn. He takes a lot of time with character development that very much pays off later. I didn't watch the wire while it was on the air, I can't imagine many did. Back then HBO didn't give a solitary crap about ratings, they wanted Emmys. The show became a cult hit because the buzz eventually became the reason to watch, so there was something to gain by waiting it out. It's also worth noting that the wire became a cult hit before streaming platforms were so prevalent. Now there are so many options that it's really hard to ask someone to sit through 2/3 of a season of character development.

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do we really think kids are willing to redshirt anymore in this era?  hard to see a kid transfer in the portal and then redshirt.

I don't see the point of the redshirt when it's unlikely any player stays in one place by the end of their career

If anything, nil makes redshirts more appealing. If you're not going to play, why not get paid while doing so? If you're a person on the fringe of a roster, whatever you're going to make in nil and in a year or two, revenue sharing, is far more than you'll make in the G league or playing in Mexico or South Korea

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I don't see the point in redshirt when basically everyone can play 4 years and then grad transfer for a 5th

Grad transfers are no longer a thing. Those were used so you didn't have to sit when transferring, they didn't afford you an extra year of eligibility. It was and still remains 5 years to play 4. That only got extended by medical hardships and covid.

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From Matt Brown's Extra Points Newsletter

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Yes, Republicans could stop college athlete employment.
The idea that the NCAA can NEVER get anything passed in Congress should be reevaluated.

Let’s talk about Congress for a second.
Leaders from individual schools, power conferences, and even the NCAA itself, have been pushing for Congress to step in and pass legislation to help the NCAA. Specifically, college sports industry leaders have been trying to get legislative help in regulating NIL, gaining freedom from onerous antitrust lawsuits, and in making sure that college athletes aren’t deemed employees.

The conventional wisdom is that the NCAA’s chances of getting this done were…basically zero. That conventional wisdom, in my opinion, comes from indisputable, stone-cold facts.

College athletics regulatory issues are not the sort of thing that drives any particular voting block or wins any lawmaker major political points. They’re also not the sort of thing that most lawmakers actually care about. The halls of Congress, and the staffers who actually guide ideas from hypotheticals to legislation, are full of Ivy League grads and the sorts of people who unironically say “Sportsball”, after all.

There’s also the fact that what the NCAA/P4 is asking for doesn’t neatly fall into partisan buckets. Just about everybody, from Bernie Sanders to Marsha Blackburn, dislikes the NCAA status quo, but there are a half-dozen potential legislative remedies floating out there, and none of them appeared to have enough support to move beyond an initial press release. Given the razor-thin Democratic majority in the Senate, and the challenges in uh, governing the GOP majority in the House, inching any bill forward that would require both R and D votes would be almost impossible.

How many congressional hearings have we had in the Extra Points era? How many proposed bills, from Democrats or Republicans, have been thrown out there, only to die before they ever left committee? More than a dozen, I’m sure. I’ve lost count.

So I totally understand why so many of my readers, industry sources and reporter colleagues are so deeply skeptical that legislative relief will ever come.

But something changed last week. And while I don’t believe that specific change will lead to any bills, it should force some folks in the College Sports Industrial Complex to rethink some of those assumptions from 2022.
On Thursday, the US House Committee on Education and the Workforce voted, on party lines, to advance a bill introduced by Rep. Bob Good (R-VA) that would explicitly prevent college athletes from being deemed employees of their school, conference or the NCAA.

Rep. Good’s bill, called the ‘Protecting Student Athlete’s Economic Freedom Act’, was also co-sponsored by Rep. Burgess Owens (R-Utah), who played football for Miami and the New York Jets, as well as eight other Republican lawmakers, some of whom are among the most conservative currently in Congress.

But something changed last week. And while I don’t believe that specific change will lead to any bills, it should force some folks in the College Sports Industrial Complex to rethink some of those assumptions from 2022.
On Thursday, the US House Committee on Education and the Workforce voted, on party lines, to advance a bill introduced by Rep. Bob Good (R-VA) that would explicitly prevent college athletes from being deemed employees of their school, conference or the NCAA.

Rep. Good’s bill, called the ‘Protecting Student Athlete’s Economic Freedom Act’, was also co-sponsored by Rep. Burgess Owens (R-Utah), who played football for Miami and the New York Jets, as well as eight other Republican lawmakers, some of whom are among the most conservative currently in Congress.

Is this bill going to become law? No, at least, not this year. But Congress isn’t guaranteed to always look the way it does this year.
Even if the PSAEF (is this what we’re calling it? I hope not) is brought to a floor vote and passes (which is not a guarantee), there’s no way it would pass this particular US Senate and be signed by Joe Biden. There would be too much pushback from organized labor and no direct way to reconcile any of the Senate bills with partisan momentum with one that takes direct aim at the employment question. This act would die as a messaging bill.

But here’s the thing. I don’t know if you’ve heard about this yet, but we’re going to have elections again this year.

Right now, Democrats currently have a tiny 51-49 seat majority in the US Senate, if you count all four independents as democrats (which you might not be able to do on some athlete right’s issues). But Democrats have to defend competitive senate seats in Arizona, Maine, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. They are almost certain to lose a seat in West Virginia. Republicans will be heavily favored in the two races that miiiiight become maybe competitive (Texas and Florida).

A lot can change between now and November, but regardless of who controls the House or wins the White House, most professional political analysts at this point would say it is likely that Republicans retake the US Senate.

If current polling is to be believed, Donald Trump probably has a small lead on Joe Biden at the moment, both in national polls, and in many important swing states, like Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

We’re a ways out from November, and it’s hard for me to imagine this next election not being close. I don’t know who ultimately wins, but I believe the race is close enough that anybody who works in or around college athletes needs to at least plan for the possibility of unified Republican control of the House, Senate, and White House. Regardless of who you want to win, I believe it is important to acknowledge the possibility that this happens.

A world where Ted Cruz or Bill Cassidy or Rand Paul becomes the chair of the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions, and where Bob Good and Burgess Owens can get higher education bills to the House floor, is absolutely a world where a bill that explicitly bans the concept of college athlete employment could get passed and signed by the President.

I dunno Matt, aren’t you being a little dramatic? I mean, Brett Kavanaugh is a big conservative, and he basically begged for athletes to be able to collectively bargain. Couldn’t Democrats just filibuster this thing? Wouldn’t the courts strike it down?
Yes, Brett Kavanaugh is a big conservative, and yes, in his concurring opinion in Alston, he did write the blurbs that have been quoted in almost every news story about athlete labor classifications since then. You remember them, right? Lines like,

"Nowhere else in America can businesses get away with agreeing not to pay their workers a fair market rate on the theory that their product is defined by not paying their workers a fair market rate…and under ordinary principles of antitrust law, it is not evident why college sports should be any different.

The NCAA is not above the law."

or

“Of course, those difficult questions could be resolved in ways other than litigation. Legislation would be one option…or colleges and student athletes could potentially engage in collective bargaining (or seek some other negotiated agreement) to provide student athletes a fairer share of the revenues that they generate for their colleges, akin to how professional football and basketball players have negotiated for a share of league revenues.”

That doesn’t sound like somebody who would be thrilled about Congress taking steps to essentially lock-in some element of getting around paying market rates.

But remember, Kavanaugh is just one justice, and his spicy quotes came in a concurring opinion, leading one to believe that perhaps not every other justice was on board with all of his thoughts. The Alston opinion also included lines from Justice Gorsuch that explicitly stated the NCAA could continue to enforce a “no Lamborghini” rule, which is pretty funny, given that we now have teams pretty explicitly operating a “yes Lamborghini” operation.

I mention this only to point out that I don’t think we can assume that just because one justice wrote an opinion that sure made it seem like he thinks amateurism is illegal, we can assume that the rest of the Supreme Court would rule amateurism-codifying legislation illegal, especially if that legislation was proposed, signed and supported by Republicans.

It’s one thing to dunk on Mark Emmert. It’s another thing to dunk on the very people that got you appointed to the Supreme Court.

Is it possible that inter-party conflicts, the filibuster or other circumstances could delay or prevent a college sports bill from passing, even if Republicans control everything? Sure, it’s possible. But let’s not discount the “they did it because they wanted to and could” factor here
I think economists, lawyers and academics are correct when they point out that generally, conservatives tend to support policies more aligned with the free market, and preemptively locking out a class of individuals from participating in the formal workforce, while allowing the NCAA to set a different price cap on revenue sharing…would not be a very Free Market-y policy.

But the Real Life House of Representatives and US Senate are not some ideological debating societies where everybody makes decisions that completely line up with consistent ideology. It’s a place where folks are willing to make all sorts of ideological compromises in the name of Triggering The Libs or Getting On Cable News or Placating An Important Donor.

You know what else many Republicans like, besides supporting free market policies? Making it harder for employees to unionize or collectively bargain, especially for people who might become public sector employees. Lawmakers, Republican and Democrat, also would prefer to not have Local State U screaming at them, and if there isn’t really a political penalty for opposing athlete employee status, I think you’ll see more lawmakers do it.

Would a few lawmakers, like Sen. Murphy (D-CT), Sen. Booker (D-NJ) or Sen. Sanders (I-VT) get furious if the House and Senate tried to force a bill to shut down athlete employee status through via some budget rider or something? I’m sure. But I’m also going to hazard a guess that if Trump is President and the GOP controls both chambers, those folks are gonna be mad about a bunch of way more important stuff. You can’t go to the legislative mattresses over everything.

If the right lawmakers decide to make pushing a similar bill a priority, I think it will be very difficult for Democratic lawmakers to stop them, nor do I think it would be safe to assume that (again, deeply conservative) federal courts will oppose those legislative efforts once they are appealed, regardless of what common interpretations of the law might be.

I am not saying that I would prefer this outcome. I’m not even saying that college sports leaders should prefer this outcome, even if they badly want to prevent courts from ruling some athletes should be classified as employees. After all, unified GOP control of the federal government will bring other changes to higher education (and potentially athletics) that current leaders will probably not be happy about.

I am just saying that if Republican leaders in the House are showing that they can get behind this sort of legislation in committee, it’s worth considering a world where similar lawmakers control committee assignments elsewhere in the federal government.

For athlete advocates or business owners who want a different world…I think now is the time to at least create a plan B. And reporters ought to recognize that this scenario could absolutely happen.


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It's going to 64 team super league anyway

No it won't. Even with Oregon State and Washington State essentially being demoted, that number of schools in power football has contributed to expand. 64 teams would represent a pretty healthy demotion and there's no reason to think that's going to happen. If there is a super league it's more likely than the number would be significantly less or significantly more than 64.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Pittin' up the WNBA
« on: June 15, 2024, 04:14:06 PM »
I have zero clue how well cc is playing professionally.

But it was stupid to put Christian Laettner on the dream team because he was great in college.

If she’s not currently one of the best then no problem leaving her off.

Especially if the other girls don’t feel like she’s earned it.


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All you need to know is the current #2 scorer in the league didn't make the team and all the snow roaches crying on social media and conservative media have no idea who she is. There are 5 Americans who average more PPG than Clark who didn't get selected. I actually hope she gets selected as an alternate, there are a couple of players on the roster who are injured, then doesn't play so all these shitheads can whine about that too.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: PORTAL KOMBAT
« on: June 15, 2024, 03:29:46 PM »
I think there is a 50/50 chance the self hate and insecurity in our fanbase will ensure long term pumping into the NIL because of KU. One thing is for sure about a lot of kstaters, and probably most fanbases, they are insecure as eff and will gladly pay a crap ton of money to beat their rival and to dominate those they perceive as under them.

I mean I get what you're saying here, but college sports wouldn't be what it is without those people. I'm not one of those people, but if you don't have that passion and hate, I don't even know what the purpose of college athletics is. The product is worse than minor league sports.

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Me and chunkles, I'm not important either place, he's real important there, not sure what either has to do with the board

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I binged Baby Reindeer and I'm pissed, especially when I finished the last episode at 5AM

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I'm incredibly sad that curb is over.  Seinfeld was my favorite show in high school and curb has been since it started.  Huge chunk of my life laughing at Larry David's humor. 

Loved how he ended it

I'm also sad. Rarely do you see a show go 11 (12?) seasons and stay consistently excellent. My man Larry always delivers. I hope he has something else up his sleeve for us to enjoy, but he's getting up there, so maybe he just wants to rest on his laurels.

Curb has a rewatch podcast with Jeff and Suzie, good way to have a reason to watch the old episodes. They're currently on season 2

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: June 15, 2024, 12:21:52 PM »
He looks super mean, that chin. I bet he's gotten in fist fights.

I also once hired a chef with the same haircut and that chef stole hundreds of dollars worth of random crap from the kitchen when he left.

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I'm sure it's no surprise that this same poster used the term virtue signaling the same day. Who do we think he's talking about?
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goEMAW died about 10 years ago when all their super important folks became social media activists. They had a lot of fun stuff before that

Deadspin lite

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: NBA Playoffs Thread
« on: June 14, 2024, 11:17:29 PM »
meh, gentlemen's sweep and the celtics get to win at home

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He might of been thinking of Terrance Shannon Jr the Illinois player that came to Lawrence to hang out and rape women

This did not age well

lol, no it did not

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: PORTAL KOMBAT
« on: June 14, 2024, 03:03:35 PM »


I think they will ultimately get a deal done, I think there are only a handful of teams left with a scholarship and the money needed to get him.  LSU is trying to get one of their incoming freshman to walk on I think to make room for Coleman but it seems like a long shot.

One thing I hadn't considered is how will scholarship caps work when there are nil deals worth more than scholarships? Why couldn't LSU just pay Coleman the nil value plus the cost of tuition?

There is still a rule that you can't go from scholarship to walk on without sitting a year. Our QB Knuth had to do that coming from Minnesota.

but in theory you could have all incoming freshmen be walk ons with NIL deals?

Yes, we do this in football. It's about to be grand opening/grand closing on this though as walk-ons are about to go bye bye.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: June 14, 2024, 03:00:57 PM »
Braet signaled a recruit incoming

I noticed KU has started tweeting The Hawk Signal to tease new commits. Are they just blatantly copying KSU, or is this pretty standard around the country?

It's standard and weird.

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What are we going to do with that new money? What are the Big Ten and SEC going to do with their new money? How does that money help us stay competitive with them? What does staying competitive with them even mean here?

Every FBS program needs to come up with a minimum of $22 million more dollars to pay players. That doesn't even account for the additional scholarships needed that's coming down the road in the next year or two.

Even the Big 10 and SEC need to decide if they're going to focus on cutting expenses or diversifying revenue, most programs will need to do both. I'm happy that players are being paid but the money is going to have to come from somewhere. The people who think the gap can be closed by cutting coaches salaries and people in the athletic department who make $43,000 a year have little concept in reality. Everyone will be selling naming rights and will be giving a percentage of their media rights to private equity, that Big 12 just happens to be first.

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: NBA Playoffs Thread
« on: June 13, 2024, 12:40:33 AM »
Luka is a fat dumb idiot and the Alt Cast is better than the TNT broadcast.

Thanks for attending my TED talk.

What did Luka do to piss you off? He's an incredible player.

Be a fat dumb idiot

Better summer diss track, this or not like us? Windy cooked that idiot.
https://x.com/godspeedbrother/status/1801102698038612380

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: PORTAL KOMBAT
« on: June 10, 2024, 11:26:57 PM »
So...safe to assume all those UConn dudes are staying put I would think?
Everybody everywhere are staying put. The transfer portal is closed.

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I can't even imagine the maga outrage about this on twitter. People being mad about this brings me extreme joy.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Lock Hunter Biden UP!
« on: June 05, 2024, 07:07:42 PM »
Hunter Biden and his council's strategy here is completely confusing to me and it seems like he's, at best, a very bad and selfish person. The evidence that he was on crack when he completed this application is unimpeachable. The dude literally wrote in his biography that he was addicted to crack during the time line in which he completed the application. They have text messages from him, at the time, telling several people he was using crack.

I don't get why he just didn't plead guilty, or no contest, if possible. He's not going to jail so who gives a eff? Now because of his hubris, his mother and his wife have to hear testimony about how much of a piece of crap he is. His dead brothers widow is going to have to give public testimony about her rough ridin' and smoking crack with her dead husbands brother.

Did y'all hear what the defense is? It's that hunter was not addicted to crack, he just used it a couple of times. He was addicted to alcohol instead. lol. I know Abbe Lowell is a big swinging attorney dick, but give me a break with this crap.

He did take a plea bargain, but it was later rejected.

https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden-plea-deal-taxes-gun-drugs-690d38f1ffae4dfce2c171d21e7d3594

Yeah, I'm aware of that. I didn't say take a plea bargain, I said plead guilty. He wrote a book where he talked about smoking crack every 15 minutes. He knew they had his text messages talking about his crack usage. He's the definition of caught in 4K. I just don't see the upside for him for having this trial.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Lock Hunter Biden UP!
« on: June 05, 2024, 05:00:13 PM »
Hunter Biden and his council's strategy here is completely confusing to me and it seems like he's, at best, a very bad and selfish person. The evidence that he was on crack when he completed this application is unimpeachable. The dude literally wrote in his biography that he was addicted to crack during the time line in which he completed the application. They have text messages from him, at the time, telling several people he was using crack.

I don't get why he just didn't plead guilty, or no contest, if possible. He's not going to jail so who gives a eff? Now because of his hubris, his mother and his wife have to hear testimony about how much of a piece of crap he is. His dead brothers widow is going to have to give public testimony about her rough ridin' and smoking crack with her dead husbands brother.

Did y'all hear what the defense is? It's that hunter was not addicted to crack, he just used it a couple of times. He was addicted to alcohol instead. lol. I know Abbe Lowell is a big swinging attorney dick, but give me a break with this crap.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Trump 2024
« on: June 05, 2024, 04:43:13 PM »
The Republican party is absolutely hell bent on reelecting Biden and giving him the house and Senate. I'll give them credit for one thing, they don't seem interested in doing whatever will snatch them the most power, literally the opposite of the dems who would do anything for any single vote.

https://x.com/AliceOllstein/status/1798461831234879996

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https://x.com/TomFornelli/status/1798422911889604825


Phoggers are arguing today whether they'd prefer the Fiesta or Rose bowl this year.  So far I believe the consensus is Rose because of the awesome parade and tickets are probably easier to get.

This is hilarious for many reasons, the last 6 words are absolutely the funniest part.

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