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« on: January 14, 2019, 02:20:04 PM »
Should the term "toxic masculinity" be regarded as hate speech?
Fightin TX Aggie 1:32p
The stupid-du-jour is that a razor company is now running an ad campaign to fight "toxic masculinity."
How in 2019 can that concept be a thing?
With any group other than men, that phrase would be regarded as bigotry.
Wikipedia defines prejudice as:
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Prejudice is an affective feeling towards a person or group member based solely on that person's group membership (tribal behavior). The word is often used to refer to preconceived, usually unfavorable, feelings towards people or a person because of their...gender...or other personal characteristics. Masculinity refers to the characteristics of males. Throwing a modifier ("toxic") in front of the word doesn't change this.
Think about it.
Someone who says, "I don't mind black people, I just hate [n-words]" is a bigot.
Someone who says, "I don't mind Hispanics, I just hate [w-words"] is a bigot.
Same with Jews and Zionists.
You don't get to assign a negative characteristic to a group and then decide which group members don't fall into your preference.
"Toxic masculinity" is the exact same thing. If you say, "Men are fine, but toxic masculinity is a problem," you're a bigot.
You don't need to attach masculinity to it at all. Say you're against sexist behavior. I agree. I'm with you. Say you're against bullying. Again, I agree - no problem.
But when you link sexism and bullying inherently to masculinity (ie, men), you're being a bigot.
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Fightin TX Aggie 1:36p
One more contrast...
Imagine Playtex running an ad campaign targeted at women who get grouchy during or leading up to their menstrual periods.
Are some women less patient, more intemperate, meaner and angrier during this time? Sure.
Imagine Playtex running ads telling women to be better. To overcome their natural *****iness that comes with PMS.
That wouldn't fly for even a minute. But "toxic masculinity" is a-ok.
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Clob94 1:45p
They are just shaming you as white male for the sins of other white males. You're guilty by association because you're white and you have male genitals. (Am I allowed to say ***** on here or does that get filtered?)
So your ***** is the root of all their perceived evil. Now if your ***** wasn't white, let's say it was black, then it would be seen as a panacea and something for your white wife to worship. Oh ya, it's already happening in movie narratives and all over the TV industry. White man bad, POC good. The pron industry was waaaaaaaay out in front of this year's ago. So much so that white actresses that did NOT engage in sexual scenes with a POC were shamed via the net to the point that many quit and some actually killed themselves.
Ya--- that's where we are at.
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