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9.msg756109#msg756109 date=1361981546]If I was an ISU i'd be pretty pissed too but more at my team for folding down the stretch so often.
I've posted plenty about ISU's problems in that game, and they certainly did their fair share to lose.
But you've got to be extremely biased to not see the impact of not one, not two, but three tough calls that went KU's way all in the final minute. The Withey non foul out, the non charge/block, and then the loose ball call all compound the impact. If it was just one bad call I'd give the KU fan talking point about bad officiating throughout the game more credence, but the impact of all 3 calls in the final minute makes that impossible for me. KU fans don't have to agree, but you've got to at least acknowledge why not just fans biased against KU, but most neutral fans as well, feel the way they do about the way the final minute was officiated.
sure but how many 'neutral' fans are biased against KU? how many of those fans watched the game? most probably just saw the highlights or the last few minutes of regulation and overtime if anything. You can spin it anyway you want but ISU didn't lose the game on that no call.
So then everyone saying it was a bad call (the big 12 conference included) and cost ISU the game is biased, but you're not?
no, i'm saying that the officials didn't give the game to ku and isu had plenty of opportunities to win regardless. putting the entire game's outcome on a no call with 8 seconds left when ISU is up 2 points and had a chance in OT is a very biased and irrational way of looking at things.
KU had plenty of opportunities to make shots and win this game without the officials having to give it to them.
so you are completely ignoring any no calls that got ISU baskets down the stretch? again, you can't just isolate one play.
I honestly have no idea what you are even talking about right now.
if you are going to nitpick one side then nitpick the other. blatant moving screens is a good place to start. at the end of the day it's all foolish though.If I was an ISU i'd be pretty pissed too but more at my team for folding down the stretch so often.
I've posted plenty about ISU's problems in that game, and they certainly did their fair share to lose.
But you've got to be extremely biased to not see the impact of not one, not two, but three tough calls that went KU's way all in the final minute. The Withey non foul out, the non charge/block, and then the loose ball call all compound the impact. If it was just one bad call I'd give the KU fan talking point about bad officiating throughout the game more credence, but the impact of all 3 calls in the final minute makes that impossible for me. KU fans don't have to agree, but you've got to at least acknowledge why not just fans biased against KU, but most neutral fans as well, feel the way they do about the way the final minute was officiated.
sure but how many 'neutral' fans are biased against KU? how many of those fans watched the game? most probably just saw the highlights or the last few minutes of regulation and overtime if anything. You can spin it anyway you want but ISU didn't lose the game on that no call.
So then everyone saying it was a bad call (the big 12 conference included) and cost ISU the game is biased, but you're not?
no, i'm saying that the officials didn't give the game to ku and isu had plenty of opportunities to win regardless. putting the entire game's outcome on a no call with 8 seconds left when ISU is up 2 points and had a chance in OT is a very biased and irrational way of looking at things.
KU had plenty of opportunities to make shots and win this game without the officials having to give it to them.
so you are completely ignoring any no calls that got ISU baskets down the stretch? again, you can't just isolate one play.
I honestly have no idea what you are even talking about right now.
If I was an ISU i'd be pretty pissed too but more at my team for folding down the stretch so often.
I've posted plenty about ISU's problems in that game, and they certainly did their fair share to lose.
But you've got to be extremely biased to not see the impact of not one, not two, but three tough calls that went KU's way all in the final minute. The Withey non foul out, the non charge/block, and then the loose ball call all compound the impact. If it was just one bad call I'd give the KU fan talking point about bad officiating throughout the game more credence, but the impact of all 3 calls in the final minute makes that impossible for me. KU fans don't have to agree, but you've got to at least acknowledge why not just fans biased against KU, but most neutral fans as well, feel the way they do about the way the final minute was officiated.
sure but how many 'neutral' fans are biased against KU? how many of those fans watched the game? most probably just saw the highlights or the last few minutes of regulation and overtime if anything. You can spin it anyway you want but ISU didn't lose the game on that no call.
So then everyone saying it was a bad call (the big 12 conference included) and cost ISU the game is biased, but you're not?
no, i'm saying that the officials didn't give the game to ku and isu had plenty of opportunities to win regardless. putting the entire game's outcome on a no call with 8 seconds left when ISU is up 2 points and had a chance in OT is a very biased and irrational way of looking at things.
If I was an ISU i'd be pretty pissed too but more at my team for folding down the stretch so often.
I've posted plenty about ISU's problems in that game, and they certainly did their fair share to lose.
But you've got to be extremely biased to not see the impact of not one, not two, but three tough calls that went KU's way all in the final minute. The Withey non foul out, the non charge/block, and then the loose ball call all compound the impact. If it was just one bad call I'd give the KU fan talking point about bad officiating throughout the game more credence, but the impact of all 3 calls in the final minute makes that impossible for me. KU fans don't have to agree, but you've got to at least acknowledge why not just fans biased against KU, but most neutral fans as well, feel the way they do about the way the final minute was officiated.
sure but how many 'neutral' fans are biased against KU? how many of those fans watched the game? most probably just saw the highlights or the last few minutes of regulation and overtime if anything. You can spin it anyway you want but ISU didn't lose the game on that no call.
pro-tip: if you're every "in a hurry" to bbs, you should really take a close look at your life and do some serious reflectionThe visuals are incredible, but the music could have been better and the crystal ball was on the sidelines...they should have somehow included the crystal ball. I give it a solid B+ (88 out of 100).
Why do you maintain two nondescript accounts here?
I forgot the password to one at some point and was in hurry so I just created another account.
Yea since I post like once every six months I'm obviously addicted and have a problem. I will get right on that soul searching.
Post once every 6 months.
73 posts.
Almost 4 solid DECADES of BBSing.
The visuals are incredible, but the music could have been better and the crystal ball was on the sidelines...they should have somehow included the crystal ball. I give it a solid B+ (88 out of 100).
WE CAN DO BETTER
88 points is not enough.
It loses 5 points for the music right away..maybe I shouldn't take off points for not including the crystal ball, I just look at it as a missed opportunity to make it even better. And if I give them 100 right away what else can they shoot for?
What was wrong with the music?!?!
pro-tip: if you're every "in a hurry" to bbs, you should really take a close look at your life and do some serious reflectionThe visuals are incredible, but the music could have been better and the crystal ball was on the sidelines...they should have somehow included the crystal ball. I give it a solid B+ (88 out of 100).
Why do you maintain two nondescript accounts here?
I forgot the password to one at some point and was in hurry so I just created another account.
The visuals are incredible, but the music could have been better and the crystal ball was on the sidelines...they should have somehow included the crystal ball. I give it a solid B+ (88 out of 100).
Why do you maintain two nondescript accounts here?
The visuals are incredible, but the music could have been better and the crystal ball was on the sidelines...they should have somehow included the crystal ball. I give it a solid B+ (88 out of 100).
WE CAN DO BETTER
88 points is not enough.
http://ncaa-tournament.si.com/2012/03/12/how-to-talk-about-kentuckys-defense/
More fantastic stuff from Winn. I love the diamond charts of the 4 factors.
Why is it so difficult to get a decent KU poster on this board?
Hatter's thought made me think of that. Unlike hockey, the real transformation for MOST football players occurs once they're in a college weightroom and development, so there is more potential for improving an undervalued player.
That sounds really interesting. Is the whole book sports related or just outliers in general?
very general
Tough road loss, and big win for the Cyclones... but BTDub, storming the court is so classless!!! #winachampionship
I like Mitch when he's calling a game. But when he is on BITB or if you ever happen to catch the "Chiefs Kingdom" show, though, my god.
Remember who signs his checks
Yeah, I try not to base any of my thoughts about Mitch on the Chief's Kingdom show. I do wonder if all diehard NFL fans that listen to their team's radio shows are like that. Its just a very strange deal.
Quote from: articleFestus, a past member of the group and KSU alumnus, would represent by wearing a referee's shirt and Thompson used that as inspiration.
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False as member or false as alumnus?
Quote from: articleFestus, a past member of the group and KSU alumnus, would represent by wearing a referee's shirt and Thompson used that as inspiration.
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but when 810 interviewed before the beasley ku game, he said he was junior in marketing. i am confused.
This isn't worth arguing about but why then did i do the all u championship game while mark was doing the first round of the women's playoffs. But hey if you want to be continue to be a douche that is your prerogative. Just tell me to my face and not over an internet message board.or a 3 seconds
not the same but i was an intramural ref at the rec and the other ref called a defensive 3 seconds..he then made it even worse by calling a technical when the team argued the call. If you were at KSU from 05-10 I bet you can guess which ref it was.
F that guy man, F him in the A. He plays at lifetime fitness now by the way, saw him get a tooth knocked out last year and it secretly made me happy.
Actually man your talking about me....good to know you werent my biggest fan. I may have been bad but I never was dumb enough to call defensive 3 seconds. It was mark Nelson the big black guy who I hope I was better than. Next time your lifetime come holla at me and we can work out whatever issues you have with me.
Way to try and throw mark nelson under the bus to cover up for your poor officiating. Poor mark, T&P's go out to him.
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