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Title: Old Snyder
Post by: _33 on January 05, 2011, 07:11:04 PM
Time to pull the trigger Currie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfR-JRxe9lk
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Post by: steve dave on January 05, 2011, 07:13:29 PM
oh.....my......god......
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 05, 2011, 07:13:58 PM
meh!
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Post by: bigDcat on January 05, 2011, 07:18:04 PM
 :fistpump:
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Post by: Catchacold on January 05, 2011, 07:19:28 PM
boom
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Post by: KSUTOMMY on January 05, 2011, 07:23:56 PM
That




Was




Spectacular
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Post by: Scary Smart on January 05, 2011, 07:24:14 PM
 :horrorsurprise:
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Post by: Stevesie60 on January 05, 2011, 07:24:33 PM
 :pray:
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Post by: slackcat on January 05, 2011, 07:29:40 PM
 :runaway: :excited: :runaway: :pbj: :excited:
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Post by: bigDcat on January 05, 2011, 07:30:27 PM
can't wait 'til 'tardville catches wind of this.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 05, 2011, 07:31:02 PM
Oh boy . . . you're all gonna burn in hell now.

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Post by: michigancat on January 05, 2011, 07:39:08 PM
OMG OMG OMG

 :D

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Post by: Panjandrum on January 05, 2011, 07:44:40 PM
 :weirdrobert:
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Post by: EMAWmeister on January 05, 2011, 07:59:53 PM
 :horrorsurprise:


But think of the women and children!
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Post by: ednksu on January 05, 2011, 08:03:12 PM
the least you could do is give me credit for my idea
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Post by: cas4ksu on January 05, 2011, 08:11:13 PM
dynamite stuff _33. dynamite.
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Post by: O-town Kat on January 05, 2011, 08:18:54 PM
 :crossfingers:
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Post by: chunkles on January 05, 2011, 08:29:44 PM
love the intense currie face and then the curious currie face and then back to intense.  intense currie face makes me think he could actually do it. 
 :fistpump: :emawkid: :fistpump: :emawkid:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rams on January 05, 2011, 08:36:30 PM
love the intense currie face and then the curious currie face and then back to intense.  intense currie face makes me think he could actually do it. 
 :fistpump: :emawkid: :fistpump: :emawkid:
Intense Currie face looks batshit crazy insane.  :love:

This is gonna be phenomenal in 'tardville.   :emawkid:

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Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: bigDcat on January 05, 2011, 08:51:34 PM
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=140862836&mid=140862836&sid=889&style=2 (http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=140862836&mid=140862836&sid=889&style=2)
 :party:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: cas4ksu on January 05, 2011, 09:01:24 PM
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=140862836&mid=140862836&sid=889&style=2 (http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=140862836&mid=140862836&sid=889&style=2)
 :party:


what's it say?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Winters on January 05, 2011, 09:01:44 PM
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=140862836&mid=140862836&sid=889&style=2 (http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=140862836&mid=140862836&sid=889&style=2)
 :party:


what's it say?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rams on January 05, 2011, 09:01:52 PM
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=140862836&mid=140862836&sid=889&style=2 (http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=140862836&mid=140862836&sid=889&style=2)
 :party:

Well...that was fast.  Apparently THIS is the one rough ridin' night of the year they have mods on that clusterfuck of a board.  :bang:

JFC that place is just tragic.  :facepalm:
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Post by: MeatSauce on January 05, 2011, 09:07:20 PM
if there wasn't a line in the sand b/w  :powerespect: &  :katpakhead: , it's certainly there now
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Post by: GoodForAnother on January 05, 2011, 09:12:03 PM
I mean I dunno if I want to shoot the guy
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Post by: wabash909 on January 05, 2011, 09:13:26 PM
 :lol:


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great job that thread in no way belonged on here or anywhere



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what was it basically about?



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It was a you tube video about currie needing to fire Snyder, and it had photoshop heads of currie, snyder, and willy on them basically.



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goEMAWs finest.
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It was another crappy post(thread) from Money Cat. No need to elaborate.



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Damn right!!! Satirical posts have NO place at gpc.

Please refrain from enjoying shaggybevo.com or tigerdroppings.com as well.

Thanks for your patronage!

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Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rams on January 05, 2011, 09:15:26 PM
if there wasn't a line in the sand b/w  :powerespect: &  :katpakhead: , it's certainly there now
No crap!  Somebody started a (I'm too stupid to find a better word than gay) "thank you for removing the post" thread and even it got locked after 6 replies.   :cheese:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Trim on January 05, 2011, 09:16:18 PM
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=140862836&mid=140862836&sid=889&style=2 (http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=140862836&mid=140862836&sid=889&style=2)
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Deleted.  Who posted what originally?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Trim on January 05, 2011, 09:17:14 PM
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loganhartpence @goEMAW That's horrible I can't believe you call yourself a k-state fan

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bhutch1543 @goEMAW dumb!
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Post by: Winters on January 05, 2011, 09:18:07 PM
 :lol:
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Post by: Rams on January 05, 2011, 09:20:35 PM
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=140862836&mid=140862836&sid=889&style=2 (http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=140862836&mid=140862836&sid=889&style=2)
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Money Cat
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Post by: AppleJack on January 05, 2011, 09:23:11 PM
 :lynchmob:
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Post by: j rake on January 05, 2011, 09:26:09 PM
 :surprised:
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Post by: Benja on January 05, 2011, 09:33:29 PM
You've got to be shitting me. That board is so rough ridin' horrible it's ridiculous.
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Post by: Benja on January 05, 2011, 09:35:12 PM
That video though, omg.  :lol:
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Post by: CNS on January 05, 2011, 09:39:39 PM
That video though, omg.  :lol:
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Post by: krazykat on January 05, 2011, 09:46:08 PM
 :star: :star: :star: :star: :star:
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Post by: Benja on January 05, 2011, 09:47:53 PM
Don't worry, I pretty much told that Hartpence Productions guy what the fucks up.
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Post by: CNS on January 05, 2011, 09:59:29 PM
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There's no hope for him now Travis.  He's sufferin'.  You know we've got to do it.

Genius.

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Post by: OK_Cat on January 05, 2011, 10:28:40 PM
another victory for goEMAW.com   :emawkid:

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Post by: ew2x4 on January 05, 2011, 10:41:53 PM
My friend's GPC account got suspended or something. Someone help me out here. I want to see reactions. And Fitz's post on coaching rumors.
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Post by: MeatSauce on January 05, 2011, 11:15:43 PM
My friend's GPC account got suspended or something. Someone help me out here. I want to see reactions. And Fitz's post on coaching rumors.

Can't confirm any Leavitt rumors, but seems to be something afoot. Sean Snyder likely to be named TE coach.  :blindfold:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: ednksu on January 05, 2011, 11:18:38 PM
My friend's GPC account got suspended or something. Someone help me out here. I want to see reactions. And Fitz's post on coaching rumors.

Can't confirm any Leavitt rumors, but seems to be something afoot. Sean Snyder likely to be named TE coach.  :blindfold:
MOAR RUMORS NOW
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Panjandrum on January 05, 2011, 11:25:37 PM
My friend's GPC account got suspended or something. Someone help me out here. I want to see reactions. And Fitz's post on coaching rumors.

Can't confirm any Leavitt rumors, but seems to be something afoot. Sean Snyder likely to be named TE coach.  :blindfold:

If Sean is named the TE coach, Currie needs to fire him on the spot.

That's pathetic.  His nepotism is becoming comedic now because it's so absurd.
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Post by: 0.42 on January 06, 2011, 12:56:25 AM
I just want to be a part of this thread
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Post by: bigDcat on January 06, 2011, 01:01:24 AM
i got a week suspension from gopowercat.com for saying "lol" in that thread
 :lynchmob:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: bigDcat on January 06, 2011, 01:46:03 AM

and if this is what they tell you...

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi259.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh281%2FbigDcat%2FScreenshot2011-01-06at13436AM.png&hash=5a892e2231e39c0d2a4496fac85558a5acc60e3a)
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Post by: AbeFroman on January 06, 2011, 02:06:50 AM
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A source in the coaching profession has told us he believes Sean Snyder will move to coaching tight ends,

it's happening.
welcome hciw snyder
all hail the overlords
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Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2011, 06:06:51 AM
Sean..... :horrorsurprise:
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Post by: catzacker on January 06, 2011, 06:10:32 AM
Sean..... :horrorsurprise:

jfc, Sean's just one step closer.....
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Cire on January 06, 2011, 06:49:46 AM
Not surprised at all.
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Post by: wabash909 on January 06, 2011, 07:43:15 AM
Got a hunch FITZ will be 100% right about Sean and 100% wrong a out Leavitt.


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I want to emphasize that I still have no directly connected to football or athletics telling us Jim Leavitt is coming, but I now have heard from too many people claiming direct knowledge on the topic to not believe something is up. Who moves off the defensive staff is unknown, but I doubt anyone will be fired.

A source in the coaching profession has told us he believes Sean Snyder will move to coaching tight ends, replacing Ricky Rahne. If true, it may be possible that someone such as Mo Latimore is moving to an administrative role and creating space for Leavitt.

Take this for what you want, but we can get no direct confirmation on any of it.



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U got Jimmys cell phone? Call him Fitz!



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I hope your sources are right on this one!



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Oh, please please please let this be true!



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Thanks for the tidbit! This is promising news.



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Fitz do u think Leavitt will come?
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Please let Del be joining Mo in "administrative" position so Jonathan becomes QB Coach
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I'd be fine with all of that.



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nice....thanks for the post FITZ



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Originally posted by BClayMoore:
I'd be fine with all of that.


good to know.



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sounds good. this rumor of coaching changes could happen anytime. always thot Sean would stay in admin. oh hell lets start the HCIW rumors.



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Originally posted by BHCat:
Please let Del be joining Mo in "administrative" position so Jonathan becomes QB Coach
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Why would you want Del to move to an administrative position over some one on the defense? It wasn't our offense that held the team back this year. Plus there is already a position open on the offense for Beasley if Snyder wants him to continue with the team.



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Sean HCIW then Tate is HCIWW.
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He's saying BOTH of them.



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I'm okay with Mo going to administrative level, and Leavitt coming in, no idea why Del is getting hammered here thought he's done a pretty good job with our QB's and offense.

Now i may get destroyed for this one, but Sean Snyder moving into the TE coaching position? Really? I'm sorry that makes me feel incredibly uneasy, i know he's been a great behind the scenes guy for us in the offices, but who here seriously thinks that's a good coaching move at all? I'm rarely critical of Snyder, but this just reeks of a little too much nepotism for me to really look past. Honestly, how long has it been since Sean actually coached a position or outright recruited players?



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Since I'm routinely attacked for not wanting Jim Leavitt to be our next head coach, I thought I'd point it out.

Those who follow my opinions can rest easy.



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Snyder and Dimel "run the offense" and Del could still help Qbs and gameplan from an administrative position. Jonathan would provide a younger face on recruiting trail and a guy that would communicate with Qbs that he understands what Snyder is demands and needs from them.
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mywilly, while Sean has been an administrator, he has been heavily involved in on-field coaching during both of Snyder's tenures. He was essentially our special team coordinator for quite a few of those years. The guy knows football.
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Not hammering Del. Rahne was the "young guy" on staff and it would be nice to replace that. Also helps to have a younger coach that players feel its easier to talk to
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Del got a ton of 'potential' out of E3 along with a Conf. CC to boot. He did pretty amazing things with a slightly above average athlete with no arm strength in Coffman this year. Dude's alright in my book.
Sean Snyder, besides coaching some special teams. Meh. If you're gonna go out there with that one - a guy with limited coaching at the position, you might as well reach waaaay out there and get a guy who is personable to kids at their level. Rahne fit that mold. Sean, not so much.



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Del knows quarterbacks and football. I hope he stays until Snyder is done.

On that note, I visited with a guy who played under him at Southwest Missouri State. He loved playing for him and went on and on about how Del knew more about the game than anyone he'd ever met.
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Unless something has changed since last week Beasley will not be taking any spot on the staff ... sorry to say



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Beasley for Del Miller, ehh, not for sure. I'd be okay with it, but Miller has seen a lot more than Beasley and may need it to deveop the new QBs next year.

S. Snyder coming to coach TEs could be a good thing. Talk to an kicker of the last several years and you'll find out he is far from just an admin guy. Not a true position coach at this point, but is very involved for sure. And he's been around for a LONG time. Also very detailed like his father.

If it opens a position for Mo to retire and Leavitt to come in, then awesome. Especially remember that Dimel has put TE's in the league (the other Gronkowski the latest), so he can assist S.Snyder where needed, especially as the OC.

GREAT post Fitz!! Any ideas on timing? Anything about this after Jan. 10 info heard elsewhere on here?



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Leavitt and Cosh are both LB's coaches.
You would think either could move to another position, but I don't think that either has coached a position besides LB's. And who steps aside for the other? Personally I want Leavitt on the LB's, not sure if Cosh could handle the change.
I'm of the opinion that if Leavitt comes, Cosh goes.



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Is Leavitt's lawsuit being settled on the 10th or something?



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Originally posted by Phat_Cat:
Leavitt and Cosh are both LB's coaches.
You would think either could move to another position, but I don't think that either has coached a position besides LB's. And who steps aside for the other? Personally I want Leavitt on the LB's, not sure if Cosh could handle the change.
I'm of the opinion that if Leavitt comes, Cosh goes.
That would be great!! Then Leavitt could bring in his own d-line coach



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A small glimmer of hope has now been planted in Wildcat Nation for SOMETHING/ANYTHING to change on this current staff. At least there are enough of these "rumors" going around out there that it makes you believe a change is on the way in some capacity...especially on the DEFENSIVE side of the line. TNB



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This is heavy



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Oh god, sean snyder is going to be hciw eventually isn't he. Worst fears coming true



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Its Leavitt!?!

I sure hope this is right. With a good DC that turns K-State in just a half-way decent defense, we will be able to win 7+ games next year. Without a defense, we won't go to a bowl game.

Eastern Kentucky W
Kent State W
@ Miami L but with a decent Defense, who knows? I'll have fun in South Beach either way.
Baylor W with an acceptable Defense
Missouri W (Gabbert is leaving for NFL)
@ Texas Tech L but possible W with an acceptable Defense
@ Kansas W
Oklahoma L
@ Oklahoma State L
Texas A&M L but possible W with an acceptable Defense
@ Texas W
Iowa State W



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Originally posted by jdw3018:
Del knows quarterbacks and football. I hope he stays until Snyder is done.

On that note, I visited with a guy who played under him at Southwest Missouri State. He loved playing for him and went on and on about how Del knew more about the game than anyone he'd ever met.
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Del does not have a good QB record. 2003 back-up to Ell sucked. 2004 sucked. 2005 sucked. 2009 sucked. 2010 sucked until last 3-4 games.



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heard Leavitt has been working UA combines, could be getting some good in roads on recruits and schools. lets hope this pans out



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Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Pete on January 06, 2011, 07:44:19 AM
Jesus Christ Sheppard of Judea....

This is basically this boards Crispus Attucks.   What follows will be interesting.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rams on January 06, 2011, 07:48:25 AM
i got a week suspension from gopowercat.com for saying "lol" in that thread
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What!?!  I saw at least 2 posts from Money Cat long after that thread got deleted...and he started the thread.  Why would they not ban him for starting it, yet ban you for "lol"?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: michigancat on January 06, 2011, 07:48:42 AM
Wow, thanks for rough ridin' us up the ass Snyder.

What a rough ridin' dick.  I'd rather he hire his son that's a waiter than that piece of crap Sean.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: catzacker on January 06, 2011, 07:49:29 AM
Jesus Christ Sheppard of Judea....

This is basically this boards Crispus Attucks.   What follows will be interesting.

the stone rejected by the builders, has become the corner stone.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Scary Smart on January 06, 2011, 08:08:13 AM
i got a week suspension from gopowercat.com for saying "lol" in that thread
 :lynchmob:


Suspension 'pak at Tubby's next weekend?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Cire on January 06, 2011, 08:14:35 AM
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He did pretty amazing things with a slightly above average athlete with no arm strength in Coffman this year.


 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2011, 08:14:40 AM
I mean we've all joked about Sean but my god  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rams on January 06, 2011, 08:24:07 AM
I mean we've all joked about Sean but my god  :horrorsurprise:
Come on...we're talking "tight ends coach" here. :jerk:

Let's not start building the rough ridin' ark because there's an inch of rain in the forcast.  If anything, this makes it easier for Currie to put one in the chamber.  :comehere:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: michigancat on January 06, 2011, 08:26:28 AM
I mean we've all joked about Sean but my god  :horrorsurprise:
Come on...we're talking "tight ends coach" here. :jerk:

Let's not start building the rough ridin' ark because there's an inch of rain in the forcast.  If anything, this makes it easier for Currie to put one in the chamber.  :comehere:

Great point.  Another year with Cosh + adding Sean to the staff = Another disaster of a season = KSU firing Bill and doing a real coaching search
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Trim on January 06, 2011, 08:27:29 AM
Pete, do some research on how much it's going to cost for an airplane to tow along a video screen of sorts playing Old Snyder on a loop.  T-Y, Trim
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 06, 2011, 08:28:20 AM
i kind of still like/don't mind snyder and probably only really want him gone if someone like leach or richrod or similar is already signed up to come on board. putting sean on staff would probably push me over the edge though. it's really not even defensible, but then again neither was the full scholarship to his one/two star football playing grandson.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: ScubaSteve on January 06, 2011, 08:32:50 AM
Can someone please tell me who the the kid was in this video?  Ruthless stuff, btw, but very funny.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 06, 2011, 08:36:13 AM
Bill's plan is falling into place. Just remain coach until Curry gets a better job, and





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Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: _33 on January 06, 2011, 08:39:53 AM
How could anyone not want him to be fired at this point?  I just don't get it.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 06, 2011, 08:47:28 AM
How could anyone not want him to be fired at this point?  I just don't get it.

i don't really know either. i think i should want a change regardless, but i just don't. still have some warm feelings for that crafty sob i guess.

my thoughts are- if you have someone that i think is good and is already signed up then you get rid of the current staff. if you don't have that person lined up, then i guess i just don't really care. hiring his son would probably tip the scale for me though. 
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: ScubaSteve on January 06, 2011, 08:57:09 AM
Ok.  Who's the face on the kid on this?  Totally tasteless, btw, but very funny.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2011, 08:58:13 AM
Pete, do some research on how much it's going to cost for an airplane to tow along a video screen of sorts playing Old Snyder on a loop.  T-Y, Trim

Video Blimp!
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Trim on January 06, 2011, 08:59:07 AM
Pete, do some research on how much it's going to cost for an airplane to tow along a video screen of sorts playing Old Snyder on a loop.  T-Y, Trim

Video Blimp!

:surprised:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: felix rex on January 06, 2011, 08:59:48 AM
i kind of still like/don't mind snyder and probably only really want him gone if someone like leach or richrod or similar is already signed up to come on board. putting sean on staff would probably push me over the edge though. it's really not even defensible, but then again neither was the full scholarship to his one/two star football playing grandson.

Bringing Sean on staff would completely push me over the edge.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: EllToPay on January 06, 2011, 09:03:12 AM
Pete, do some research on how much it's going to cost for an airplane to tow along a video screen of sorts playing Old Snyder on a loop.  T-Y, Trim

Video Blimp!

Would prefer it to replace the 'Proud of the House' video before games.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: michigancat on January 06, 2011, 09:04:12 AM
my thoughts are- if you have someone that i think is good and is already signed up then you get rid of the current staff. if you don't have that person lined up, then i guess i just don't really care. hiring his son would probably tip the scale for me though. 

I don't understand this logic, because our current program really can't get much worse.  It's like, next to impossible.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 06, 2011, 09:11:41 AM
i kind of still like/don't mind snyder and probably only really want him gone if someone like leach or richrod or similar is already signed up to come on board. putting sean on staff would probably push me over the edge though. it's really not even defensible, but then again neither was the full scholarship to his one/two star football playing grandson.

Bringing Sean on staff would completely push me over the edge.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 06, 2011, 09:18:55 AM
my thoughts are- if you have someone that i think is good and is already signed up then you get rid of the current staff. if you don't have that person lined up, then i guess i just don't really care. hiring his son would probably tip the scale for me though. 

I don't understand this logic, because our current program really can't get much worse.  It's like, next to impossible.

I would say that there's about a 60% chance that our next coach actually performs worse than Snyder/Prince. Maybe I'm being unfair to Curry/Schultz here, but it's just hard for me to be optimistic.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: chum1 on January 06, 2011, 09:19:53 AM
regardless of opinions on snyder, what a bunch of typical butthurt kstate fans.  embarrassing thread overall.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: michigancat on January 06, 2011, 09:20:59 AM
my thoughts are- if you have someone that i think is good and is already signed up then you get rid of the current staff. if you don't have that person lined up, then i guess i just don't really care. hiring his son would probably tip the scale for me though.  

I don't understand this logic, because our current program really can't get much worse.  It's like, next to impossible.

I would say that there's about a 60% chance that our next coach actually performs worse than Snyder/Prince. Maybe I'm being unfair to Curry/Schultz here, but it's just hard for me to be optimistic.

60% chance of being worse than Prince?  Seriously?  I guess we should have rough ridin' joined the Mountain West when we had the chance.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: OK_Cat on January 06, 2011, 09:25:38 AM
my thoughts are- if you have someone that i think is good and is already signed up then you get rid of the current staff. if you don't have that person lined up, then i guess i just don't really care. hiring his son would probably tip the scale for me though. 

I don't understand this logic, because our current program really can't get much worse.  It's like, next to impossible.

I would say that there's about a 60% chance that our next coach actually performs worse than Snyder/Prince. Maybe I'm being unfair to Curry/Schultz here, but it's just hard for me to be optimistic.

....and there you go.  A large majority of our fanbase thinks just like that.  "But but but!  Snyder did it before, I don't think anybody else will!"

 :flush:


Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: MadCat on January 06, 2011, 09:30:28 AM
K-State football's got a fever and the only prescription is...more Snyder.  :goodbyecruelworld:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: catzacker on January 06, 2011, 09:31:12 AM
regardless of opinions on snyder, what a bunch of typical butthurt kstate fans.  embarrassing thread overall.

explain.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 06, 2011, 09:32:28 AM
my thoughts are- if you have someone that i think is good and is already signed up then you get rid of the current staff. if you don't have that person lined up, then i guess i just don't really care. hiring his son would probably tip the scale for me though. 

I don't understand this logic, because our current program really can't get much worse.  It's like, next to impossible.

I would say that there's about a 60% chance that our next coach actually performs worse than Snyder/Prince. Maybe I'm being unfair to Curry/Schultz here, but it's just hard for me to be optimistic.

....and there you go.  A large majority of our fanbase thinks just like that.  "But but but!  Snyder did it before, I don't think anybody else will!"

 :flush:




Oh, I still think we should fire Snyder. I just wouldn't be surprised at all if the next coach is fired after 3 years with a sub .500 record.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: michigancat on January 06, 2011, 09:44:44 AM
my thoughts are- if you have someone that i think is good and is already signed up then you get rid of the current staff. if you don't have that person lined up, then i guess i just don't really care. hiring his son would probably tip the scale for me though. 

I don't understand this logic, because our current program really can't get much worse.  It's like, next to impossible.

I would say that there's about a 60% chance that our next coach actually performs worse than Snyder/Prince. Maybe I'm being unfair to Curry/Schultz here, but it's just hard for me to be optimistic.

....and there you go.  A large majority of our fanbase thinks just like that.  "But but but!  Snyder did it before, I don't think anybody else will!"

 :flush:




Oh, I still think we should fire Snyder. I just wouldn't be surprised at all if the next coach is fired after 3 years with a sub .500 record.

That's different from "performing worse".  For example, if a coach comes in and has recruiting classes in the top half of the Big 12, but a sub .500 record after 3 years, I would consider that performing better than what we have now and want the coach to stay.  Right now, I have absolutely no hope for the future.  I'm a butthurt kstatefan fan.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: bakerman on January 06, 2011, 09:47:46 AM
I just want to be a part of this thread

+1. It's like so I can say I was there someday to the grandkids and stuff.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Trim on January 06, 2011, 09:51:09 AM
Pete, do some research on how much it's going to cost for an airplane to tow along a video screen of sorts playing Old Snyder on a loop.  T-Y, Trim

Video Blimp!

Would prefer it to replace the 'Proud of the House' video before games.

That's totally unrealistic.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2011, 09:54:02 AM
This Sean thing is just incredible.  I'm not even one that wants Bill fired this very second.  My best case scenario is that the AD or Bill comes out and says something like, "We are keeping our eyes open for a unique opportunity (ie. Leach/Rich) in a coach and Bill will continue to be the head coach at Kansas State until that opportunity arises".  I would be happy as crap to watch Bill coach'em up for another year or two if I thought that our AD was actually conducting a long term coaching search for the right disgraced elite coach that would actually take the job.  But, you have to be as blind as an ostrich (thanks sys) to not see where Bill is going with this Sean crap.  
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 06, 2011, 09:57:23 AM
my thoughts are- if you have someone that i think is good and is already signed up then you get rid of the current staff. if you don't have that person lined up, then i guess i just don't really care. hiring his son would probably tip the scale for me though. 

I don't understand this logic, because our current program really can't get much worse.  It's like, next to impossible.

that's ridiculous. it could get a lot worse. not saying that it should be used as a reason to not make a move, but not at least acknowledging it is kind of absurd.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 06, 2011, 09:58:02 AM
This Sean thing is just incredible.  I'm not even one that wants Bill fired this very second.  My best case scenario is that the AD or Bill comes out and says something like, "We are keeping our eyes open for a unique opportunity (ie. Leach/Rich) in a coach and Bill will continue to be the head coach at Kansas State until that opportunity arises".  I would be happy as crap to watch Bill coach'em up for another year or two if I thought that our AD was actually conducting a long term coaching search for the right disgraced elite coach that would actually take the job.  But, you have to be as blind as an ostrich (thanks sys) to not see where Bill is going with this Sean crap.  

That opportunity has arisen. Both of those coaches are jobless and will not be available in a year or two.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Gooch on January 06, 2011, 09:58:16 AM
At the aTm game I was told directly by Casey Scott "there is no rough ridin' way that punter is going to be the coach of this university".
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on January 06, 2011, 09:58:32 AM
I don't have a problem with Bill or Sean.  I just want our defense to get better.  Fire the whole defensive staff or just Cosh.  If Snyder cannot fire Cosh then I can see him needing to go. 
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: kougar24 on January 06, 2011, 10:01:07 AM
Well, I made this after Tate's commitment, but I guess it's a good time to dust it off again...



(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi133.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq45%2Fkougar24%2FKState%2Fsnyder-nepotism-poster.png&hash=33bf78e1b1b0bd151bc3867937f4eb30307a2b43)


:facepalm:


Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 06, 2011, 10:04:41 AM
This Sean thing is just incredible.  I'm not even one that wants Bill fired this very second.  My best case scenario is that the AD or Bill comes out and says something like, "We are keeping our eyes open for a unique opportunity (ie. Leach/Rich) in a coach and Bill will continue to be the head coach at Kansas State until that opportunity arises".  I would be happy as cac to watch Bill coach'em up for another year or two if I thought that our AD was actually conducting a long term coaching search for the right disgraced elite coach that would actually take the job.  But, you have to be as blind as an ostrich (thanks sys) to not see where Bill is going with this Sean cac.  

i am hoping beyond hope that this is the case. the first stuff and not the snyder to snyder baton handoff stuff. that's why the hiring of sean would pretty much end any fence sitting for me.

besides that, it's just lazy staff hiring. someone on staff quits? just make the guy who's not on staff that apparently already coaches a lot an actual coach. i mean, he's never actually been on staff and is well into his 40's so yeah it seems weird as hell but gosh, at least we don't have to go out and find someone and can just sit around in our offices and stare at the walls some more.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: michigancat on January 06, 2011, 10:06:13 AM
that's ridiculous. it could get a lot worse. not saying that it should be used as a reason to not make a move, but not at least acknowledging it is kind of absurd.

It's very, very difficult for a coach hired by a competent search to do worse in this day and age.  Look at the BCS since 2003 and tell me who has clearly performed "a lot worse" than KSU overall?  Baylor, Duke, Indiana, and Washington State.  And Baylor is at least clearly heading in the right direction.  It can be done, but it's difficult to do a lot worse.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: kougar24 on January 06, 2011, 10:11:25 AM
that's ridiculous. it could get a lot worse. not saying that it should be used as a reason to not make a move, but not at least acknowledging it is kind of absurd.

It's very, very difficult for a coach hired by a competent search to do worse in this day and age.  Look at the BCS since 2003 and tell me who has clearly performed "a lot worse" than KSU overall?  Baylor, Duke, Indiana, and Washington State.  And Baylor is at least clearly heading in the right direction.  It can be done, but it's difficult to do a lot worse.

I don't think many of us can handle that truth.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: O-town Kat on January 06, 2011, 10:13:28 AM
Currie will pull the plug when Bill goes south of 6-6. Just sux that one of the better, attainable HCs in Leach is just sitting there right now.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 06, 2011, 10:15:16 AM
Great video.  I want to run around and show all my friends.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on January 06, 2011, 10:29:10 AM
i kind of still like/don't mind snyder and probably only really want him gone if someone like leach or richrod or similar is already signed up to come on board. putting sean on staff would probably push me over the edge though. it's really not even defensible, but then again neither was the full scholarship to his one/two star football playing grandson.

Bringing Sean on staff would completely push me over the edge.

agree 100% with daris in this thread.  (even used no caps to emphasize.)
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: GetVocalwithCurt on January 06, 2011, 10:32:28 AM
Currie will hire the next football coach. Not Snyder. The man hired Lane Kiffin and oscar Pearl. You really think he is gonna let LHC Bill Snyder run the show. If he didn't let Phil Fulmer give any input than Snyder won't have much of a say.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2011, 10:33:59 AM
Currie will hire the next football coach. Not Snyder. The man hired Lane Kiffin and oscar Pearl. You really think he is gonna let LHC Bill Snyder run the show. If he didn't let Phil Fulmer give any input than Snyder won't have much of a say.

It's true he is going to make the hire.  But, he really can't take credit for everything that has happened at TN.  He wasn't the man in charge. 
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: _33 on January 06, 2011, 10:36:03 AM
The main reason I hate Snyder is that he came back when we had a great opportunity to make a great hire.  I really hate him for this.  Like, why did he come back?  Why did he do this to us?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: kso_FAN on January 06, 2011, 10:37:37 AM
The main reason I hate Snyder is that he came back when we had a great opportunity to make a great hire.  I really hate him for this.  Like, why did he come back?  Why did he do this to us?

B/c the people in charge let him (or even asked him to) come back.  I can see why he did it, the athletic department was a mess.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on January 06, 2011, 10:38:02 AM
that's ridiculous. it could get a lot worse. not saying that it should be used as a reason to not make a move, but not at least acknowledging it is kind of absurd.

It's very, very difficult for a coach hired by a competent search to do worse in this day and age.  Look at the BCS since 2003 and tell me who has clearly performed "a lot worse" than KSU overall?  Baylor, Duke, Indiana, and Washington State.  And Baylor is at least clearly heading in the right direction.  It can be done, but it's difficult to do a lot worse.

Well, we've had 2 coaching changes in that time, but here's a list of BCS teams that have done worse from 2004-2010: Ole Miss, Minnesota, Mississippi State, Colorado, Iowa State, Indiana, Illinois, Baylor, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, Washington State, Washington and Duke.  Stanford has the exact same record over that time period.  Also, a whole bunch of other mid-major teams have done worse, like Colorado State, Wyoming, Ball State, Miami-Ohio, Marshall, New Mexico, Akron, SMU, Kent, Army, etc.

Just pitching in with some facts.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2011, 10:40:06 AM
that's ridiculous. it could get a lot worse. not saying that it should be used as a reason to not make a move, but not at least acknowledging it is kind of absurd.

It's very, very difficult for a coach hired by a competent search to do worse in this day and age.  Look at the BCS since 2003 and tell me who has clearly performed "a lot worse" than KSU overall?  Baylor, Duke, Indiana, and Washington State.  And Baylor is at least clearly heading in the right direction.  It can be done, but it's difficult to do a lot worse.

Well, we've had 2 coaching changes in that time, but here's a list of BCS teams that have done worse from 2004-2010: Ole Miss, Minnesota, Mississippi State, Colorado, Iowa State, Indiana, Illinois, Baylor, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, Washington State, Washington and Duke.  Stanford has the exact same record over that time period.  Also, a whole bunch of other mid-major teams have done worse, like Colorado State, Wyoming, Ball State, Miami-Ohio, Marshall, New Mexico, Akron, SMU, Kent, Army, etc.

Just pitching in with some facts.

How many have done better?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: monumentcat on January 06, 2011, 10:41:05 AM
If Sean takes the TE coach position, who going to take his very important position doing whatever he does.  Is there another Snyder available to fill Sean's position?  Oh dear, what will happen when we run out of Snyders?

Our football program is a rough ridin' joke.   :goodbyecruelworld:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2011, 10:41:55 AM
If Sean takes the TE coach position, who going to take his very important position doing whatever he does.  Is there another Snyder available to fill Sean's position?  Oh dear, what will happen when we run out of Snyders?

Our football program is a rough ridin' joke.   :goodbyecruelworld:

Tate.

Dumbass.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on January 06, 2011, 10:44:14 AM
that's ridiculous. it could get a lot worse. not saying that it should be used as a reason to not make a move, but not at least acknowledging it is kind of absurd.

It's very, very difficult for a coach hired by a competent search to do worse in this day and age.  Look at the BCS since 2003 and tell me who has clearly performed "a lot worse" than KSU overall?  Baylor, Duke, Indiana, and Washington State.  And Baylor is at least clearly heading in the right direction.  It can be done, but it's difficult to do a lot worse.

Well, we've had 2 coaching changes in that time, but here's a list of BCS teams that have done worse from 2004-2010: Ole Miss, Minnesota, Mississippi State, Colorado, Iowa State, Indiana, Illinois, Baylor, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, Washington State, Washington and Duke.  Stanford has the exact same record over that time period.  Also, a whole bunch of other mid-major teams have done worse, like Colorado State, Wyoming, Ball State, Miami-Ohio, Marshall, New Mexico, Akron, SMU, Kent, Army, etc.

Just pitching in with some facts.

How many have done better?

All of the others.  I believe we are #76 on the list.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2011, 10:45:22 AM
that's ridiculous. it could get a lot worse. not saying that it should be used as a reason to not make a move, but not at least acknowledging it is kind of absurd.

It's very, very difficult for a coach hired by a competent search to do worse in this day and age.  Look at the BCS since 2003 and tell me who has clearly performed "a lot worse" than KSU overall?  Baylor, Duke, Indiana, and Washington State.  And Baylor is at least clearly heading in the right direction.  It can be done, but it's difficult to do a lot worse.

Well, we've had 2 coaching changes in that time, but here's a list of BCS teams that have done worse from 2004-2010: Ole Miss, Minnesota, Mississippi State, Colorado, Iowa State, Indiana, Illinois, Baylor, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, Washington State, Washington and Duke.  Stanford has the exact same record over that time period.  Also, a whole bunch of other mid-major teams have done worse, like Colorado State, Wyoming, Ball State, Miami-Ohio, Marshall, New Mexico, Akron, SMU, Kent, Army, etc.

Just pitching in with some facts.

How many have done better?

All of the others.  I believe we are #76 on the list.

Will take those odds any day.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 06, 2011, 10:46:39 AM
If Sean takes the TE coach position, who going to take his very important position doing whatever he does.  Is there another Snyder available to fill Sean's position?  Oh dear, what will happen when we run out of Snyders?

Our football program is a effing joke.   :goodbyecruelworld:

Sean's wife will have a job in the AD soon.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: OK_Cat on January 06, 2011, 10:47:12 AM
OB's horse-faced daughter will probably get a gig, too.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Trim on January 06, 2011, 10:47:29 AM
To be fair, Sean has the bloodlines of a HOF coach.

HALL OF FAME
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2011, 10:48:17 AM
I would be Ok with Sean being the Punter coach.

AA.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2011, 10:49:10 AM
I would be Ok with Sean being the Punter coach.

AA.

I could be a punter coach.  Just keep handing balls to the kid and saying, "Again, harder"
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Trim on January 06, 2011, 10:49:35 AM
Quote
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 :ohno:

 :excited:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2011, 10:49:46 AM
I would be Ok with Sean being the Punter coach.

AA.

I could be a punter coach.  Just keep handing balls to the kid and saying, "Again, harder"

AA
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 06, 2011, 10:49:58 AM
I'm one of the more powertarded people on this board(regarding Snyder anyway). And this even pisses me off. If Sean gets moved to TE coach, and we keep Cosh at DC with no regards to a plan for the future. I'll lose it. LOSE IT!!
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2011, 10:50:42 AM
I'm one of the more powertarded people on this board(regarding Snyder anyway). And this even pisses me off. If Sean gets moved to TE coach, and we keep Cosh at DC with no regards to a plan for the future. I'll lose it. LOSE IT!!

Video Blimp donation?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: AbeFroman on January 06, 2011, 10:50:53 AM
Currie will hire the next football coach. Not Snyder. The man hired Lane Kiffin and oscar Pearl. You really think he is gonna let LHC Bill Snyder run the show. If he didn't let Phil Fulmer give any input than Snyder won't have much of a say.

It's true he is going to make the hire.  But, he really can't take credit for everything that has happened at TN.  He wasn't the man in charge. 
Luckily he didn't directly hire those coaches, he still needs a "marquee" hire for the resume.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: MadCat on January 06, 2011, 10:54:26 AM
If the next coach is going to be horrible, at least get someone with some entertainment value.  I say Lou Holtz.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 06, 2011, 10:56:19 AM
that's ridiculous. it could get a lot worse. not saying that it should be used as a reason to not make a move, but not at least acknowledging it is kind of absurd.

It's very, very difficult for a coach hired by a competent search to do worse in this day and age.  Look at the BCS since 2003 and tell me who has clearly performed "a lot worse" than KSU overall?  Baylor, Duke, Indiana, and Washington State.  And Baylor is at least clearly heading in the right direction.  It can be done, but it's difficult to do a lot worse.

the current ksu staff has gone 7-9 in conference games, so saying "our current program really can't get much worse.  It's like, next to impossible" seems pretty absurd to me. although my starting point for coming to this conclusion is not based on some kind of seven year rolling average of entire bcs only programs (not individual staffs) and contained only between 2003-2010. 
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: ednksu on January 06, 2011, 11:00:10 AM
that's ridiculous. it could get a lot worse. not saying that it should be used as a reason to not make a move, but not at least acknowledging it is kind of absurd.

It's very, very difficult for a coach hired by a competent search to do worse in this day and age.  Look at the BCS since 2003 and tell me who has clearly performed "a lot worse" than KSU overall?  Baylor, Duke, Indiana, and Washington State.  And Baylor is at least clearly heading in the right direction.  It can be done, but it's difficult to do a lot worse.

I don't think many of us can handle that truth.
by my count 42 teams have been to BCS bowls.  To say that we are being surpassed by the entire BCS major team system is dishonest at best.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: bakerman on January 06, 2011, 11:06:16 AM
that's ridiculous. it could get a lot worse. not saying that it should be used as a reason to not make a move, but not at least acknowledging it is kind of absurd.

It's very, very difficult for a coach hired by a competent search to do worse in this day and age.  Look at the BCS since 2003 and tell me who has clearly performed "a lot worse" than KSU overall?  Baylor, Duke, Indiana, and Washington State.  And Baylor is at least clearly heading in the right direction.  It can be done, but it's difficult to do a lot worse.

Well, we've had 2 coaching changes in that time, but here's a list of BCS teams that have done worse from 2004-2010: Ole Miss, Minnesota, Mississippi State, Colorado, Iowa State, Indiana, Illinois, Baylor, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, Washington State, Washington and Duke.  Stanford has the exact same record over that time period.  Also, a whole bunch of other mid-major teams have done worse, like Colorado State, Wyoming, Ball State, Miami-Ohio, Marshall, New Mexico, Akron, SMU, Kent, Army, etc.

Just pitching in with some facts.

All in the process of passing us by, imo.

Also, Iowa St. is getting very, very close.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: EMAWmeister on January 06, 2011, 11:07:02 AM
To be fair, Sean has the bloodlines of a HOF coach.

HALL OF FAME

BECAUSE THE HALL OF FAME CAN WAIT!

:facepalm:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: michigancat on January 06, 2011, 11:08:11 AM
that's ridiculous. it could get a lot worse. not saying that it should be used as a reason to not make a move, but not at least acknowledging it is kind of absurd.

It's very, very difficult for a coach hired by a competent search to do worse in this day and age.  Look at the BCS since 2003 and tell me who has clearly performed "a lot worse" than KSU overall?  Baylor, Duke, Indiana, and Washington State.  And Baylor is at least clearly heading in the right direction.  It can be done, but it's difficult to do a lot worse.

Well, we've had 2 coaching changes in that time, but here's a list of BCS teams that have done worse from 2004-2010: Ole Miss, Minnesota, Mississippi State, Colorado, Iowa State, Indiana, Illinois, Baylor, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, Washington State, Washington and Duke.  Stanford has the exact same record over that time period.  Also, a whole bunch of other mid-major teams have done worse, like Colorado State, Wyoming, Ball State, Miami-Ohio, Marshall, New Mexico, Akron, SMU, Kent, Army, etc.

Just pitching in with some facts.

I don't know how you got your list...strict w/l? We have barely qualified for 2 bowls in 7 seasons since 2003, and they are the worst bowls possible.  How have the teams on your list fared?  Have these teams really done "a lot worse" than KSU since 2003?

Ole Miss: has been to 2 Cotton Bowls, had 2 9-win seasons
Minnesota:  has been to 5 bowls
Mississippi State:  been to 2 bowls and will finish the season ranked
Colorado:  been to 3 bowls and won 2 North titles
Iowa State:  been to 3 bowls
Indiana:  I listed these guys.  (note that they have been to 1 fewer bowl than KSU)
Illinois:  been to 2 bowls, including the rough ridin' Rose Bowl
Baylor:  Listed
Syracuse:  Been to 2 bowls.
Vanderbilt:  Yeah, you can have this one, although they did make a bowl.
Washington State:  Listed
Washington:  Just won a Holiday Bowl.  It's close.
Duke: Listed

So you can add Vanderbilt, and possibly Washington.  About 1 school in each conference has been "a lot worse" than KSU since 2004.  
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: LickNeckey on January 06, 2011, 11:11:17 AM
I think that the Sean to TE's freak out thing is a bit of an overreaction.  

Sean has been involved in game planning, practice planning, and special teams coaching for some time.  If you have been to a coaching clinic Sean works with the punters and leads you throught the drill work they engage in.  So he has beeninvolved in on the field coaching on a regular basis for some time.  

It seems the two most logical reasos for this fear are 1) that Sean become HCIW and 2) that this another example of lazy hiring practices.

1) there is no way that Currie or any AD would accept that transition plan
2) if in fact the move is to open up an administrative position for a cuurent staff member to allow Leavit to join the staff i'm all in otherwise it is a bad move
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: michigancat on January 06, 2011, 11:14:34 AM
that's ridiculous. it could get a lot worse. not saying that it should be used as a reason to not make a move, but not at least acknowledging it is kind of absurd.

It's very, very difficult for a coach hired by a competent search to do worse in this day and age.  Look at the BCS since 2003 and tell me who has clearly performed "a lot worse" than KSU overall?  Baylor, Duke, Indiana, and Washington State.  And Baylor is at least clearly heading in the right direction.  It can be done, but it's difficult to do a lot worse.

the current ksu staff has gone 7-9 in conference games, so saying "our current program really can't get much worse.  It's like, next to impossible" seems pretty absurd to me. although my starting point for coming to this conclusion is not based on some kind of seven year rolling average of entire bcs only programs (not individual staffs) and contained only between 2003-2010.  

Yeah, I guess I care more about the overall health of the program than Snyder's 2 year conference record with Prince recruits.  I think a 7 year window is a better way to look at things for what I want.  You could use a 5 year window, too.  Results wouldn't change much.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 06, 2011, 11:16:13 AM
I think that the Sean to TE's freak out thing is a bit of an overreaction.  

Sean has been involved in game planning, practice planning, and special teams coaching for some time.  If you have been to a coaching clinic Sean works with the punters and leads you throught the drill work they engage in.  So he has beeninvolved in on the field coaching on a regular basis for some time.  

It seems the two most logical reasos for this fear are 1) that Sean become HCIW and 2) that this another example of lazy hiring practices.

1) there is no way that Currie or any AD would accept that transition plan
2) if in fact the move is to open up an administrative position for a cuurent staff member to allow Leavit to join the staff i'm all in otherwise it is a bad move

Yes, playing tight end is just like punting a football. This would be a terrible move, if true.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: chunkles on January 06, 2011, 11:19:03 AM
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Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: LickNeckey on January 06, 2011, 11:19:14 AM
Becasue being a lawyer is just like coaching an offense.  Or playing golf in college is just like being the coach of the chiefs.

dumbass
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: felix rex on January 06, 2011, 11:20:25 AM
that's ridiculous. it could get a lot worse. not saying that it should be used as a reason to not make a move, but not at least acknowledging it is kind of absurd.

It's very, very difficult for a coach hired by a competent search to do worse in this day and age.  Look at the BCS since 2003 and tell me who has clearly performed "a lot worse" than KSU overall?  Baylor, Duke, Indiana, and Washington State.  And Baylor is at least clearly heading in the right direction.  It can be done, but it's difficult to do a lot worse.

the current ksu staff has gone 7-9 in conference games, so saying "our current program really can't get much worse.  It's like, next to impossible" seems pretty absurd to me. although my starting point for coming to this conclusion is not based on some kind of seven year rolling average of entire bcs only programs (not individual staffs) and contained only between 2003-2010.  

Yeah, I guess I care more about the overall health of the program than Snyder's 2 year conference record with Prince recruits.  I think a 7 year window is a better way to look at things for what I want.  You could use a 5 year window, too.  Results wouldn't change much.

Our 7-year window may be a little misleading compared to others, too. We've basically had sustained mediocrity or just a notch below since 2004. Lots of 5-win seasons.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 06, 2011, 11:20:41 AM
I personally believe that the moment Snyder at coach starts to be a drag on UPKS and ADJC's grand vision, he'll be gone.

Right now, Snyder has the money on his side.

I'll also say once again, I don't not see how Cosh can be retained.   I've seen a lot of crappy K-State defense over the years and this years defense was only surpassed by Tibesar's last season as one of the worst I've seen at K-State in a long time.    During Snyder I, what leapt out to me immediately was that while it was still extremely  :facepalm: at times early on, we still actually looked like we had a clue out there.   We had guys who would hit people, not ankle dive.  We took the right pursuit angles, yeah, sometimes that didn't matter because the other team just had better athletes, and the staff was doing everything they could to play situational/personal matching because we were so short on talent and depth.   We had guys, you know, there around the ball ready to make plays more time than now.  At the end of the day there was tons to be hopeful about . . . I see none of that now, most of the time when the other team is stopped it's because of their own incompetence.   Why did Texas even attempt to the throw the ball on us, everytime they ran power running plays our Front 7 looked like they were just hit by a shockwave from a 10 Megaton Nuclear Explosion.  

There's a lack of talent and a lack of good coaching and right now on the defensive side of the ball we have both.  
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: _33 on January 06, 2011, 11:21:06 AM
You know what I care about more than a two year conference record?  The fact that our recruiting class is ranked 11th out of 12 in the conference and our avg. star ranking is 2.25.  Colorado is the only team below us and that's because they only have 4 commits.  No doubt we will be dead last very soon.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 06, 2011, 11:21:58 AM
Becasue being a lawyer is just like coaching an offense.  Or playing golf in college is just like being the coach of the chiefs.

dumbass

Yeah, I forgot that Mike Leach and Todd Haley got their jobs handed to them by their dads.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: wetwillie on January 06, 2011, 11:22:14 AM
Becasue being a lawyer is just like coaching an offense.  Or playing golf in college is just like being the coach of the chiefs.

dumbass

Heard it here first guys, Sean Snyder is the next Mike Leach and Todd Haley.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: michigancat on January 06, 2011, 11:23:47 AM
that's ridiculous. it could get a lot worse. not saying that it should be used as a reason to not make a move, but not at least acknowledging it is kind of absurd.

It's very, very difficult for a coach hired by a competent search to do worse in this day and age.  Look at the BCS since 2003 and tell me who has clearly performed "a lot worse" than KSU overall?  Baylor, Duke, Indiana, and Washington State.  And Baylor is at least clearly heading in the right direction.  It can be done, but it's difficult to do a lot worse.

the current ksu staff has gone 7-9 in conference games, so saying "our current program really can't get much worse.  It's like, next to impossible" seems pretty absurd to me. although my starting point for coming to this conclusion is not based on some kind of seven year rolling average of entire bcs only programs (not individual staffs) and contained only between 2003-2010.  

Yeah, I guess I care more about the overall health of the program than Snyder's 2 year conference record with Prince recruits.  I think a 7 year window is a better way to look at things for what I want.  You could use a 5 year window, too.  Results wouldn't change much.

Our 7-year window may be a little misleading compared to others, too. We've basically had sustained mediocrity or just a notch below since 2004. Lots of 5-win seasons.

Yeah, I guess some people would rather have our 5 win seasons and new era bowls than Illinois's 3 win seasons and Rose Bowl.  to each his own.



Becasue being a lawyer is just like coaching an offense.  Or playing golf in college is just like being the coach of the chiefs.

dumbass

Yeah, I forgot that Mike Leach and Todd Haley got their jobs handed to them by their dads.

Wait...what?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: bakerman on January 06, 2011, 11:25:57 AM
Becasue being a lawyer is just like coaching an offense.  Or playing golf in college is just like being the coach of the chiefs.

dumbass

Yeah, I forgot that Mike Leach and Todd Haley got their jobs handed to them by their dads.

Wait...what?

 :lol:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: 0.42 on January 06, 2011, 11:26:31 AM
Thing is, I'd be okay with keeping Snyder if we knew that:

1. He was going to fire Cosh
2. He was going to bring in some assistants that could recruit worth a crap
3. That he wouldn't run those assistants off within a year or two, and
4. Sean Snyder would not even get a sniff of a coaching staff position

He really can coach his teams to be competitive with talent that should be winning at a level of about what KU achieved this year. It's really, really tough to find coaches who can pull that off. But the thing is, we know that he's not going to do what it takes to help the program ultimately succeed, so keeping him around is really just another drag on the program.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rams on January 06, 2011, 11:27:17 AM
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Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: pencat on January 06, 2011, 11:28:09 AM
my thoughts are- if you have someone that i think is good and is already signed up then you get rid of the current staff. if you don't have that person lined up, then i guess i just don't really care. hiring his son would probably tip the scale for me though. 

I don't understand this logic, because our current program really can't get much worse.  It's like, next to impossible.

Oh no?
See the program to the east. :barf:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: bakerman on January 06, 2011, 11:29:07 AM
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Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: michigancat on January 06, 2011, 11:31:14 AM
Thing is, I'd be okay with keeping Snyder if we knew that:

1. He was going to fire Cosh
2. He was going to bring in some assistants that could recruit worth a crap
3. That he wouldn't run those assistants off within a year or two, and
4. Sean Snyder would not even get a sniff of a coaching staff position

He really can coach his teams to be competitive with talent that should be winning at a level of about what KU had this year. It's really, really tough to find coaches who can pull that off. But the thing is, we know that he's not going to do what it takes to help the program ultimately succeed, so keeping him around is really just another drag on the program.

In all honesty, I would probably be OK with that, too, but he had the perfect opportunity to:

1.  Not hire Cosh
2.  Not hire assistants that would recruit worth a crap
3.  Not run off every assistant with any promise ever

I would have no problem with the current results if recruiting was worth even half of a crap right now.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: _33 on January 06, 2011, 11:32:14 AM
Thing is, I'd be okay with keeping Snyder if we knew that:

1. He was going to fire Cosh
2. He was going to bring in some assistants that could recruit worth a crap
3. That he wouldn't run those assistants off within a year or two, and
4. Sean Snyder would not even get a sniff of a coaching staff position


He really can coach his teams to competitive with talent that should be winning at a level of about what KU had this year. It's really, really tough to find coaches who can pull that off. But the thing is, we know that he's not going to do what it takes to help the program ultimately succeed, so keeping him around is really just another drag on the program.

We KNOW that none of these things are going to happen.  Stop holding out hope that something Snyder has never ever done is going to happen.  You have no hope.  We have no hope.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 06, 2011, 11:34:16 AM
that's ridiculous. it could get a lot worse. not saying that it should be used as a reason to not make a move, but not at least acknowledging it is kind of absurd.

It's very, very difficult for a coach hired by a competent search to do worse in this day and age.  Look at the BCS since 2003 and tell me who has clearly performed "a lot worse" than KSU overall?  Baylor, Duke, Indiana, and Washington State.  And Baylor is at least clearly heading in the right direction.  It can be done, but it's difficult to do a lot worse.

the current ksu staff has gone 7-9 in conference games, so saying "our current program really can't get much worse.  It's like, next to impossible" seems pretty absurd to me. although my starting point for coming to this conclusion is not based on some kind of seven year rolling average of entire bcs only programs (not individual staffs) and contained only between 2003-2010. 

Yeah, I guess I care more about the overall health of the program than Snyder's 2 year conference record with Prince recruits.  I think a 7 year window is a better way to look at things for what I want.  You could use a 5 year window, too.  Results wouldn't change much.

Our 7-year window may be a little misleading compared to others, too. We've basically had sustained mediocrity or just a notch below since 2004. Lots of 5-win seasons.

Yeah, I guess some people would rather have our 5 win seasons and new era bowls than Illinois's 3 win seasons and Rose Bowl.  to each his own.

well... I think an 8 year window is a better way to look at things for what I want and i just realized that illinois has no conference championships. Yeah, I guess some people would rather have no conference championships than one conference championship. to each his own.



i'd say what i just typed sounds pretty stupid. you?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: michigancat on January 06, 2011, 11:41:01 AM
that's ridiculous. it could get a lot worse. not saying that it should be used as a reason to not make a move, but not at least acknowledging it is kind of absurd.

It's very, very difficult for a coach hired by a competent search to do worse in this day and age.  Look at the BCS since 2003 and tell me who has clearly performed "a lot worse" than KSU overall?  Baylor, Duke, Indiana, and Washington State.  And Baylor is at least clearly heading in the right direction.  It can be done, but it's difficult to do a lot worse.

the current ksu staff has gone 7-9 in conference games, so saying "our current program really can't get much worse.  It's like, next to impossible" seems pretty absurd to me. although my starting point for coming to this conclusion is not based on some kind of seven year rolling average of entire bcs only programs (not individual staffs) and contained only between 2003-2010. 

Yeah, I guess I care more about the overall health of the program than Snyder's 2 year conference record with Prince recruits.  I think a 7 year window is a better way to look at things for what I want.  You could use a 5 year window, too.  Results wouldn't change much.

Our 7-year window may be a little misleading compared to others, too. We've basically had sustained mediocrity or just a notch below since 2004. Lots of 5-win seasons.

Yeah, I guess some people would rather have our 5 win seasons and new era bowls than Illinois's 3 win seasons and Rose Bowl.  to each his own.

well... "I think a 7 8 year window is a better way to look at things for what I want" and i just realized that illinois has no conference championships. "Yeah, I guess some people would rather have our 5 win seasons and new era bowls than Illinois's 3 win seasons and Rose Bowl. no conference championships than one conference championship. to each his own."

i'd say what i just typed sounds pretty stupid. you?


what's the best "way to look at things"?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: kso_FAN on January 06, 2011, 11:42:36 AM
I personally believe that the moment Snyder at coach starts to be a drag on UPKS and ADJC's grand vision, he'll be gone.

Right now, Snyder has the money on his side.

I'll also say once again, I don't not see how Cosh can be retained.   I've seen a lot of crappy K-State defense over the years and this years defense was only surpassed by Tibesar's last season as one of the worst I've seen at K-State in a long time.    During Snyder I, what leapt out to me immediately was that while it was still extremely  :facepalm: at times early on, we still actually looked like we had a clue out there.   We had guys who would hit people, not ankle dive.  We took the right pursuit angles, yeah, sometimes that didn't matter because the other team just had better athletes, and the staff was doing everything they could to play situational/personal matching because we were so short on talent and depth.   We had guys, you know, there around the ball ready to make plays more time than now.  At the end of the day there was tons to be hopeful about . . . I see none of that now, most of the time when the other team is stopped it's because of their own incompetence.   Why did Texas even attempt to the throw the ball on us, everytime they ran power running plays our Front 7 looked like they were just hit by a shockwave from a 10 Megaton Nuclear Explosion.  

There's a lack of talent and a lack of good coaching and right now on the defensive side of the ball we have both.  

Agree completely dax.  The money for football is good right now, great attendance this year and great bowl attendance considering the bowl/travel.  I don't see any possible way any AD would think about firing Snyder right now.  That said, the AD should be aware of the issues on the defensive side of the ball and with recruiting and making sure those two concerns are addressed by the head coach.  If the head coach refuses to address either, then next year the situation for retension would be very different.

Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: 0.42 on January 06, 2011, 11:43:30 AM
Thing is, I'd be okay with keeping Snyder if we knew that:

1. He was going to fire Cosh
2. He was going to bring in some assistants that could recruit worth a crap
3. That he wouldn't run those assistants off within a year or two, and
4. Sean Snyder would not even get a sniff of a coaching staff position


He really can coach his teams to competitive with talent that should be winning at a level of about what KU had this year. It's really, really tough to find coaches who can pull that off. But the thing is, we know that he's not going to do what it takes to help the program ultimately succeed, so keeping him around is really just another drag on the program.

We KNOW that none of these things are going to happen.  Stop holding out hope that something Snyder has never ever done is going to happen.  You have no hope.  We have no hope.

Did you read the rest of that post?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: _33 on January 06, 2011, 11:45:33 AM
Thing is, I'd be okay with keeping Snyder if we knew that:

1. He was going to fire Cosh
2. He was going to bring in some assistants that could recruit worth a crap
3. That he wouldn't run those assistants off within a year or two, and
4. Sean Snyder would not even get a sniff of a coaching staff position


He really can coach his teams to competitive with talent that should be winning at a level of about what KU had this year. It's really, really tough to find coaches who can pull that off. But the thing is, we know that he's not going to do what it takes to help the program ultimately succeed, so keeping him around is really just another drag on the program.

We KNOW that none of these things are going to happen.  Stop holding out hope that something Snyder has never ever done is going to happen.  You have no hope.  We have no hope.

Did you read the rest of that post?

No, sorry.  Great post.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 06, 2011, 11:46:46 AM
that's ridiculous. it could get a lot worse. not saying that it should be used as a reason to not make a move, but not at least acknowledging it is kind of absurd.

It's very, very difficult for a coach hired by a competent search to do worse in this day and age.  Look at the BCS since 2003 and tell me who has clearly performed "a lot worse" than KSU overall?  Baylor, Duke, Indiana, and Washington State.  And Baylor is at least clearly heading in the right direction.  It can be done, but it's difficult to do a lot worse.

the current ksu staff has gone 7-9 in conference games, so saying "our current program really can't get much worse.  It's like, next to impossible" seems pretty absurd to me. although my starting point for coming to this conclusion is not based on some kind of seven year rolling average of entire bcs only programs (not individual staffs) and contained only between 2003-2010. 

Yeah, I guess I care more about the overall health of the program than Snyder's 2 year conference record with Prince recruits.  I think a 7 year window is a better way to look at things for what I want.  You could use a 5 year window, too.  Results wouldn't change much.

Our 7-year window may be a little misleading compared to others, too. We've basically had sustained mediocrity or just a notch below since 2004. Lots of 5-win seasons.

Yeah, I guess some people would rather have our 5 win seasons and new era bowls than Illinois's 3 win seasons and Rose Bowl.  to each his own.

well... "I think a 7 8 year window is a better way to look at things for what I want" and i just realized that illinois has no conference championships. "Yeah, I guess some people would rather have our 5 win seasons and new era bowls than Illinois's 3 win seasons and Rose Bowl. no conference championships than one conference championship. to each his own."

i'd say what i just typed sounds pretty stupid. you?


what's the best "way to look at things"?

i would say that on a scale of 1-100, my way of looking at it would be a 1 (best) and your way of looking at it would be around a 20 or so.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: michigancat on January 06, 2011, 11:47:20 AM
I think your scale sucks.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 06, 2011, 11:49:42 AM
I think your scale sucks.

you are top 25 on my scale though baby!  :party:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: michigancat on January 06, 2011, 11:50:25 AM
I bet Prince is a 76 or something.  :woot:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: MadCat on January 06, 2011, 12:11:31 PM
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Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2011, 12:14:01 PM
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Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: LickNeckey on January 06, 2011, 12:27:06 PM
"Haley was hired by the New York Jets in 1995 and served as an assistant in the scouting department for two seasons. At the time, Haley's father was working with the Jets as Director of Player Personnel."

Dumbass

Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2011, 12:57:32 PM
Who would everyone say their bright spot on the current coaching staff is?  I'd go with Burns....by far....
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2011, 12:58:09 PM


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Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: CHONGS on January 06, 2011, 12:58:35 PM
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Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 06, 2011, 01:01:20 PM
Who would everyone say their bright spot on the current coaching staff is?  I'd go with Burns....by far....

Does Joe Gordon count?? just because of the website.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 06, 2011, 01:02:31 PM
Who would everyone say their bright spot on the current coaching staff is?  I'd go with Burns....by far....

Does Joe Gordon count?? just because of the website.

joe gordon isn't technically a coach, yet.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: michigancat on January 06, 2011, 01:03:41 PM
Who would everyone say their bright spot on the current coaching staff is?  I'd go with Burns....by far....

Why?  He seems just as terrible and old-ballsy as the rest of them.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2011, 01:04:40 PM
Who would everyone say their bright spot on the current coaching staff is?  I'd go with Burns....by far....

Why?  He seems just as terrible and old-ballsy as the rest of them.

I thought all of our no-talent CBs played well for their no-talented-ness.  Who do you put ahead of him?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: michigancat on January 06, 2011, 01:08:01 PM
Who would everyone say their bright spot on the current coaching staff is?  I'd go with Burns....by far....

Why?  He seems just as terrible and old-ballsy as the rest of them.

I thought all of our no-talent CBs played well for their no-talented-ness.  Who do you put ahead of him?

I put them all in a tie for last.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2011, 01:08:33 PM
Also, good point was brought up on GPC.  If we bring in Sean, Leavitt or a Sean/Leavitt combo and Mo goes to an office position that has been rumored for awhile we are trotting a coaching snowcoat out onto the recruiting trail.  Think about that.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 06, 2011, 01:10:14 PM
Also, good point was brought up on GPC.  If we bring in Sean, Leavitt or a Sean/Leavitt combo and Mo goes to an office position that has been rumored for awhile we are trotting a coaching snowcoat out onto the recruiting trail.  Think about that.

I don't know what that means.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rams on January 06, 2011, 01:11:27 PM
Who would everyone say their bright spot on the current coaching staff is?  I'd go with Burns....by far....
Dickey...but only because he's an outsider that's had success elsewhere, not because of the performance of the offensive line this year. :bang:

What's your favorite Nickelback song?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rams on January 06, 2011, 01:12:21 PM
Also, good point was brought up on GPC.  If we bring in Sean, Leavitt or a Sean/Leavitt combo and Mo goes to an office position that has been rumored for awhile we are trotting a coaching snowcoat out onto the recruiting trail.  Think about that.

I don't know what that means.
:opcat:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 06, 2011, 01:15:30 PM
Also, good point was brought up on GPC.  If we bring in Sean, Leavitt or a Sean/Leavitt combo and Mo goes to an office position that has been rumored for awhile we are trotting a coaching snowcoat out onto the recruiting trail.  Think about that.

I don't know what that means.
:opcat:

 :eek:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: kougar24 on January 06, 2011, 01:37:18 PM
Who would everyone say their bright spot on the current coaching staff is?  I'd go with Burns....by far....

Why?  He seems just as terrible and old-ballsy as the rest of them.

I thought all of our no-talent CBs played well for their no-talented-ness.  Who do you put ahead of him?

I put them all in a tie for last.

You don't play well with others.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Andy on January 06, 2011, 01:41:53 PM
Who would everyone say their bright spot on the current coaching staff is?  I'd go with Burns....by far....

Why?  He seems just as terrible and old-ballsy as the rest of them.

I thought all of our no-talent CBs played well for their no-talented-ness.  Who do you put ahead of him?

I put them all in a tie for last.

i sincerely bow to your elite level of pessimism.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: felix rex on January 06, 2011, 01:45:35 PM
Also, good point was brought up on GPC.  If we bring in Sean, Leavitt or a Sean/Leavitt combo and Mo goes to an office position that has been rumored for awhile we are trotting a coaching snowcoat out onto the recruiting trail.  Think about that.

I don't know what that means.

Here's a video that may or may not confuse you more about it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olDeJvgpoxM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olDeJvgpoxM)
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 06, 2011, 02:04:07 PM
"Haley was hired by the New York Jets in 1995 and served as an assistant in the scouting department for two seasons. At the time, Haley's father was working with the Jets as Director of Player Personnel."

Dumbass



Oh, so who was he coaching as an assistant in the scouting department?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: HeinBallz on January 06, 2011, 02:12:31 PM
Also, good point was brought up on GPC.  If we bring in Sean, Leavitt or a Sean/Leavitt combo and Mo goes to an office position that has been rumored for awhile we are trotting a coaching snowcoat out onto the recruiting trail.  Think about that.

Dickey dips in the brown sugar tho.  Gotta count for something :dunno:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2011, 02:31:23 PM
Who would everyone say their bright spot on the current coaching staff is?  I'd go with Burns....by far....

Does Joe Gordon count?? just because of the website.

joe gordon isn't technically a coach, yet.

BUM BUM BUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 06, 2011, 02:59:42 PM
I'm pretty sure I remember something from Snyder 2.0's contract that at least one of his kids and/or grandkids (if not more or all of them) gets a full ride.  Can anyone quote this for me specifically?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2011, 03:01:05 PM
I'm pretty sure I remember something from Snyder 2.0's contract that at least one of his kids and/or grandkids (if not more or all of them) gets a full ride.  Can anyone quote this for me specifically?

 fb scholarships.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 06, 2011, 03:01:54 PM
I'm pretty sure I remember something from Snyder 2.0's contract that at least one of his kids and/or grandkids (if not more or all of them) gets a full ride.  Can anyone quote this for me specifically?

His kids all get a full ride, but I'm not sure about his grandkids.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2011, 03:05:52 PM
I'm pretty sure I remember something from Snyder 2.0's contract that at least one of his kids and/or grandkids (if not more or all of them) gets a full ride.  Can anyone quote this for me specifically?

His kids all get a full ride, but I'm not sure about his grandkids.

Aren't all his kids well past college age?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2011, 03:08:55 PM
I'm pretty sure I remember something from Snyder 2.0's contract that at least one of his kids and/or grandkids (if not more or all of them) gets a full ride.  Can anyone quote this for me specifically?

His kids all get a full ride, but I'm not sure about his grandkids.

Aren't all his kids well past college age?

I think Whitney was the youngest.  She could be in grad school or post-grad I guess. 
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 06, 2011, 03:09:19 PM
I'm pretty sure I remember something from Snyder 2.0's contract that at least one of his kids and/or grandkids (if not more or all of them) gets a full ride.  Can anyone quote this for me specifically?

His kids all get a full ride, but I'm not sure about his grandkids.

Aren't all his kids well past college age?

Whitney might still be in college.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 06, 2011, 03:29:18 PM
I'm pretty sure I remember something from Snyder 2.0's contract that at least one of his kids and/or grandkids (if not more or all of them) gets a full ride.  Can anyone quote this for me specifically?

His kids all get a full ride, but I'm not sure about his grandkids.

Aren't all his kids well past college age?

Yes, but Sean refuses to go out and get a real job.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2011, 03:30:31 PM
I'm pretty sure I remember something from Snyder 2.0's contract that at least one of his kids and/or grandkids (if not more or all of them) gets a full ride.  Can anyone quote this for me specifically?

His kids all get a full ride, but I'm not sure about his grandkids.

Aren't all his kids well past college age?

Yes, but Sean refuses to go out and get a real job.

lol
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: AbeFroman on January 06, 2011, 03:37:48 PM
I used to work at a liquor store on the west side and Whitney used to come in with her friends. I didn't know who she was at the time, I just knew her face looked like melted wax. Pretty sure she was underage at the time.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 06, 2011, 04:10:45 PM
Anybody have a link to Snyder's contract?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: michigancat on January 06, 2011, 04:12:00 PM
didn't we buy snyder's daughter a horse farm or something?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: sys on January 06, 2011, 04:16:14 PM
didn't we buy snyder's daughter a horse farm or something?

no, that was nolan richardson.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2011, 04:22:36 PM
Noland Richardson bought Bill's kid a horse farm?

 :surprised:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: MadCat on January 06, 2011, 04:26:14 PM
Anybody have a link to Snyder's contract?

I kinda remember a clause in his contract about Sean being retained if Bill gets terminated.  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 06, 2011, 04:35:05 PM
Anybody have a link to Snyder's contract?

I kinda remember a clause in his contract about Sean being retained if Bill gets terminated.  :horrorsurprise:

Hopefully that clause will be voided when Bill changes Sean's position to TE coach. :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rams on January 06, 2011, 04:44:41 PM
Noland Richardson bought Bill's kid a horse farm?

 :surprised:
:lol:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: wetwillie on January 06, 2011, 04:45:57 PM
Anybody have a link to Snyder's contract?

I kinda remember a clause in his contract about Sean being retained if Bill gets terminated.  :horrorsurprise:

http://www.kansascity.com/images/info_central/Snyder_employment_contract.pdf

It is an image though so you can't use search function to find anything
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: MeatSauce on January 06, 2011, 04:52:11 PM
3.06.a.i.1  seems like a very KSTATEO clause....  Or are bonuses for Co-champs of a Division common?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: CHONGS on January 06, 2011, 04:56:13 PM
I wonder how they will rework his contract now that divisions will be gone...
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: theymightbegiants on January 06, 2011, 05:01:52 PM
I almost started laughing out loud when I read the bonus if K-State won the national championship (never happen). I think if he actually did that everyone would be willing to pay OB a lot more than 250,000 one time.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rams on January 06, 2011, 05:05:39 PM
4.02(i) - Recruiting  :dunno:

:emawkid: TERMINATE WITH CAUSE!!!! :emawkid:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: _33 on January 06, 2011, 05:06:59 PM
Anybody have a link to Snyder's contract?

I kinda remember a clause in his contract about Sean being retained if Bill gets terminated.  :horrorsurprise:

http://www.kansascity.com/images/info_central/Snyder_employment_contract.pdf

It is an image though so you can't use search function to find anything

The Little Apple's own horrific 9/11 tragedy.  We will never forget.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Pett on January 06, 2011, 06:13:39 PM
Anybody have a link to Snyder's contract?

I kinda remember a clause in his contract about Sean being retained if Bill gets terminated.  :horrorsurprise:

http://www.kansascity.com/images/info_central/Snyder_employment_contract.pdf

It is an image though so you can't use search function to find anything

Schulz didn't sign it. :surprised:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2011, 07:05:06 PM
I'm worried Bill is going to let it get to the point we start campaigning to get his name ripped off the stadium.  Family Stadium.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Pett on January 06, 2011, 07:08:47 PM
Family Stadium.

Family Reunions. :emawkid:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Pete on January 06, 2011, 07:17:48 PM
I'm worried Bill is going to let it get to the point we start campaigning to get his name ripped off the stadium.  Family Stadium.

I"ll tell you one thing; I am not in favor of the bronze statue any longer.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 06, 2011, 07:22:21 PM
I'm worried Bill is going to let it get to the point we start campaigning to get his name ripped off the stadium.  Family Stadium.

I"ll tell you one thing; I am not in favor of the bronze statue any longer.

Unless bubu pays for it
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 06, 2011, 07:55:53 PM
I used to work at a liquor store on the west side and Whitney used to come in with her friends. I didn't know who she was at the time, I just knew her face looked like melted wax. Pretty sure she was underage at the time.

Never seen her, but my friend is her hygienist. She told me that she has an extra bone in each side of her jaw. That may be the cause of the melted wax appearance.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2011, 08:03:09 PM
jfc, we've discovered the punter bone
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Fldermaus on January 06, 2011, 08:10:47 PM
I used to work at a liquor store on the west side and Whitney used to come in with her friends. I didn't know who she was at the time, I just knew her face looked like melted wax. Pretty sure she was underage at the time.

Never seen her, but my friend is her hygienist. She told me that she has an extra bone in each side of her jaw. That may be the cause of the melted wax appearance.

post X-rays of the punter bone!
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Panjandrum on January 06, 2011, 08:16:15 PM
This thread made me laugh, then it made me cry.

rough ridin' Sean.  I still can't get over this.  eff.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Panjandrum on January 06, 2011, 08:18:20 PM
It's also embarrassing that we have a punter in the Ring of Honor.

I mean...Goddammit.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 06, 2011, 08:19:45 PM
Know what's weird?  Whitney Snyder is Tate Snyder's aunt.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2011, 08:21:04 PM
Know what's weird?  Whitney Snyder is Tate Snyder's aunt.
:horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: _33 on January 06, 2011, 08:26:18 PM
Know what's weirder?  Tate Snyder has a scholarship to play football for the Kansas State Wildcats.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: GetVocalwithCurt on January 06, 2011, 08:26:30 PM
It's also embarrassing that we have a punter in the Ring of Honor.

I mean...Goddammit.

First jersey retired by southern miss was ray guy's  :dunno:

That's Ray Guy though. He never coached tight ends for the golden eagles.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: michigancat on January 06, 2011, 08:35:43 PM
Know what's weirder?  Tate Snyder has a scholarship to play football for the Kansas State Wildcats.

:horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: ew2x4 on January 06, 2011, 08:41:04 PM
I need some new leavitt news to cheer me up. anyone?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: pissclams on January 06, 2011, 08:43:02 PM
I'm worried Bill is going to let it get to the point we start campaigning to get his name ripped off the stadium.  Family Stadium.
can you imagine the tax consequences of something like that?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 06, 2011, 08:46:35 PM
I need some new leavitt news to cheer me up. anyone?

FWIW, I talked to one of our writers today who was fed up with the rumors and was trying to get in touch with everyone he could about it. Hopefully we'll know one way or the other soon.

I feel like people within the department would just say "no, they're not true" if there was no truth to it, right?

......right?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: _33 on January 06, 2011, 08:48:23 PM
He's not coming idiots.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2011, 09:00:33 PM
Rob said on GPC that he called Levitt and his agent this morning and left both messages.  Said that he did the same thing last year when the Levitt rumor came up and both called him right back to deny.  As of 6PM tonight, Rob said he still hasn't heard back.  Said that things are much quieter than last time the rumor went around.

Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: _33 on January 06, 2011, 09:03:40 PM
Rob said on GPC that he called Levitt and his agent this morning and left both messages.  Said that he did the same thing last year when the Levitt rumor came up and both called him right back to deny.  As of 6PM tonight, Rob said he still hasn't heard back.  Said that things are much quieter than last time the rumor went around.



 :excited:  <----- sarcastic
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 06, 2011, 09:16:39 PM
Rob said on GPC that he called Levitt and his agent this morning and left both messages.  Said that he did the same thing last year when the Levitt rumor came up and both called him right back to deny.  As of 6PM tonight, Rob said he still hasn't heard back.  Said that things are much quieter than last time the rumor went around.



 :excited:  <----- sarcastic

i've heard other similar stuff about people acting and saying different things this time around. leavitt would be a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) not to jump at the chance. tards would be happy and he'd be making 2per in a couple of years. eff me i think it might happen.  :goodbyecruelworld:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rams on January 06, 2011, 09:47:23 PM
Rob said on GPC that he called Levitt and his agent this morning and left both messages.  Said that he did the same thing last year when the Levitt rumor came up and both called him right back to deny.  As of 6PM tonight, Rob said he still hasn't heard back.  Said that things are much quieter than last time the rumor went around.



 :excited:  <----- sarcastic

i've heard other similar stuff about people acting and saying different things this time around. leavitt would be a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) not to jump at the chance. tards would be happy and he'd be making 2per in a couple of years. eff me i think it might happen.  :goodbyecruelworld:
You would prefer the status quo?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 06, 2011, 09:50:21 PM
Rob said on GPC that he called Levitt and his agent this morning and left both messages.  Said that he did the same thing last year when the Levitt rumor came up and both called him right back to deny.  As of 6PM tonight, Rob said he still hasn't heard back.  Said that things are much quieter than last time the rumor went around.



 :excited:  <----- sarcastic

i've heard other similar stuff about people acting and saying different things this time around. leavitt would be a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) not to jump at the chance. tards would be happy and he'd be making 2per in a couple of years. eff me i think it might happen.  :goodbyecruelworld:
You would prefer the status quo?

I don't want leavitt as the next head coach.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rams on January 06, 2011, 10:17:40 PM
Rob said on GPC that he called Levitt and his agent this morning and left both messages.  Said that he did the same thing last year when the Levitt rumor came up and both called him right back to deny.  As of 6PM tonight, Rob said he still hasn't heard back.  Said that things are much quieter than last time the rumor went around.



 :excited:  <----- sarcastic

i've heard other similar stuff about people acting and saying different things this time around. leavitt would be a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) not to jump at the chance. tards would be happy and he'd be making 2per in a couple of years. eff me i think it might happen.  :goodbyecruelworld:
You would prefer the status quo?

I don't want leavitt as the next head coach.
Being the DC under Snyder does not guarantee that he'll be the next head coach.  It's a win-win.  He gets back into coaching and has a chance to let people forget that he choked some faggoty little whiner in Florida and we likely get a D that doesn't make me want to cheer for the other team by the 2nd rough ridin' quarter of every game.

When Snyder eventually steps down or is coerced into retirement 2.0, Currie gets to hire his replacement and JL is simply one more guy that can interview for the job if he wants it.  I firmly believe, down in the one little remaining bright spot in my soul, that Currie's not going to let ANYBODY tell him who the next head coach is going to be...and that includes the shirt tucks.  There's precedent all over the country of AD's hiring guys that weren't popular with the money men at their school, and Currie strikes me as that type of guy.

Don't fret the hiring of a proven DC to replace the worst rough ridin' football coach in the history of the sport...just sit back and embrace your inner powerespect.   :ksu:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: kougar24 on January 06, 2011, 10:45:44 PM
Rob said on GPC that he called Levitt and his agent this morning and left both messages.  Said that he did the same thing last year when the Levitt rumor came up and both called him right back to deny.  As of 6PM tonight, Rob said he still hasn't heard back.  Said that things are much quieter than last time the rumor went around.



 :excited:  <----- sarcastic

i've heard other similar stuff about people acting and saying different things this time around. leavitt would be a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) not to jump at the chance. tards would be happy and he'd be making 2per in a couple of years. eff me i think it might happen.  :goodbyecruelworld:
You would prefer the status quo?

I don't want leavitt as the next head coach.

You and I agree on something. But just to be clear, if we could somehow get him here just as DC and not HCIW, sign me up. I mean, why not, right?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: DQ12 on January 06, 2011, 11:04:17 PM
I just want a coach that will ensure that we get to a bowl game every year.  I don't even really care if it's a particularly good bowl game. If that makes me a loser, fine.
 :emawkid: <---- Me enjoying our bowl game in NYC, Houston etc.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: michigancat on January 07, 2011, 06:34:50 AM
You and I agree on something. But just to be clear, if we could somehow get him here just as DC and not HCIW, sign me up. I mean, why not, right?

I don't think there's a guarantee he'll be good at DC.  Yeah, he was amazing 15 years ago, but so was Del Miller 15 years before he went to SDSU.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: The Whale on January 07, 2011, 09:25:57 AM
If Sean Snyder has actually moved onto the coaching staff, then it's too late -- Bill's "Final Solution" has already begun.

First, get Sean on staff for a year or two, gradually moving up in importance.

Next, come down with major illness, and put Sean in charge just before that season's KU game.

Sean follows Bill's gameplan to the letter and defeats the atrocious Fighting Gills.

Later that week, announce that the illness wasn't as bad as thought, but will require stepping down to stay on top of treatment.  Also say that the program is on solid footing with Sean in charge.  At that point, he shirt-tucks with money get into a frenzy and demand Sean be offered the job -- after all, he fits the criteria: 1. Name is Snyder.  2. Beat KU.

JFC, Bill is a guy who forces assistants to work 18 hrs a day, even if it involves staring at the wall to get the hours in.  You think he's going to let Currie pick his successor without a fight?  He's probably spending 18 hours a day in a tanning bed right now, laughing his ass off.

Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 07, 2011, 09:26:54 AM
You and I agree on something. But just to be clear, if we could somehow get him here just as DC and not HCIW, sign me up. I mean, why not, right?

I don't think there's a guarantee he'll be good at DC.  Yeah, he was amazing 15 years ago, but so was Del Miller 15 years before he went to SDSU.

Good point.  We should hold out for a coach that is guaranteed to win games and be really handsome.  
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2011, 09:31:45 AM
If Sean Snyder has actually moved onto the coaching staff, then it's too late -- Bill's "Final Solution" has already begun.

First, get Sean on staff for a year or two, gradually moving up in importance.

Next, come down with major illness, and put Sean in charge just before that season's KU game.

Sean follows Bill's gameplan to the letter and defeats the atrocious Fighting Gills.

Later that week, announce that the illness wasn't as bad as thought, but will require stepping down to stay on top of treatment.  Also say that the program is on solid footing with Sean in charge.  At that point, he shirt-tucks with money get into a frenzy and demand Sean be offered the job -- after all, he fits the criteria: 1. Name is Snyder.  2. Beat KU.

JFC, Bill is a guy who forces assistants to work 18 hrs a day, even if it involves staring at the wall to get the hours in.  You think he's going to let Currie pick his successor without a fight?  He's probably spending 18 hours a day in a tanning bed right now, laughing his ass off.



The Whale is a good poster
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 07, 2011, 09:36:08 AM
If Sean Snyder has actually moved onto the coaching staff, then it's too late -- Bill's "Final Solution" has already begun.

First, get Sean on staff for a year or two, gradually moving up in importance.

Next, come down with major illness, and put Sean in charge just before that season's KU game.

Sean follows Bill's gameplan to the letter and defeats the atrocious Fighting Gills.

Later that week, announce that the illness wasn't as bad as thought, but will require stepping down to stay on top of treatment.  Also say that the program is on solid footing with Sean in charge.  At that point, he shirt-tucks with money get into a frenzy and demand Sean be offered the job -- after all, he fits the criteria: 1. Name is Snyder.  2. Beat KU.

JFC, Bill is a guy who forces assistants to work 18 hrs a day, even if it involves staring at the wall to get the hours in.  You think he's going to let Currie pick his successor without a fight?  He's probably spending 18 hours a day in a tanning bed right now, laughing his ass off.



Not at all as far fetched as I wish it were.

Except the tanning bed, Snyds is awfully pale.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: michigancat on January 07, 2011, 09:45:45 AM
You and I agree on something. But just to be clear, if we could somehow get him here just as DC and not HCIW, sign me up. I mean, why not, right?

I don't think there's a guarantee he'll be good at DC.  Yeah, he was amazing 15 years ago, but so was Del Miller 15 years before he went to SDSU.

Good point.  We should hold out for a coach that is guaranteed to win games and be really handsome. 

I'm not against it, just not going to jerk off to the possibility.  It's a very meh change.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Panjandrum on January 07, 2011, 11:40:35 AM
If Sean Snyder has actually moved onto the coaching staff, then it's too late -- Bill's "Final Solution" has already begun.

First, get Sean on staff for a year or two, gradually moving up in importance.

Next, come down with major illness, and put Sean in charge just before that season's KU game.

Sean follows Bill's gameplan to the letter and defeats the atrocious Fighting Gills.

Later that week, announce that the illness wasn't as bad as thought, but will require stepping down to stay on top of treatment.  Also say that the program is on solid footing with Sean in charge.  At that point, he shirt-tucks with money get into a frenzy and demand Sean be offered the job -- after all, he fits the criteria: 1. Name is Snyder.  2. Beat KU.

JFC, Bill is a guy who forces assistants to work 18 hrs a day, even if it involves staring at the wall to get the hours in.  You think he's going to let Currie pick his successor without a fight?  He's probably spending 18 hours a day in a tanning bed right now, laughing his ass off.



Not at all as far fetched as I wish it were.

Except the tanning bed, Snyds is awfully pale.

If this happened, I would cease to be a K-State football fan.  I'd have to pick some other team because I couldn't take the anger/disappointment/shame.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: kougar24 on January 07, 2011, 12:15:27 PM
You and I agree on something. But just to be clear, if we could somehow get him here just as DC and not HCIW, sign me up. I mean, why not, right?

I don't think there's a guarantee he'll be good at DC.  Yeah, he was amazing 15 years ago, but so was Del Miller 15 years before he went to SDSU.

Good point.  We should hold out for a coach that is guaranteed to win games and be really handsome. 

I'm not against it, just not going to jerk off to the possibility.  It's a very meh change.

I'd put Leavitt-as-DC somewhere between "meh" and "jerking off to it."

If "meh" = 0 and "jerking off" = 10, I'd put it right around 4.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: LickNeckey on January 07, 2011, 12:20:34 PM
"Oh, so who was he coaching as an assistant in the scouting department?"

for the especially difficult dumbasses Hailey's dad was still on staff when Todd got promoted to WR coach
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: wetwillie on January 07, 2011, 12:21:55 PM
"Oh, so who was he coaching as an assistant in the scouting department?"

for the especially difficult dumbasses Hailey's dad was still on staff when Todd got promoted to WR coach

So you are saying that Sean will eventually become a great head coach and that we will all eat huge crow knowing that Todd and Mike got similar starts?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: LickNeckey on January 07, 2011, 12:39:00 PM
No I said simply that "for the especially difficult dumbasses Hailey's dad was still on staff when Todd got promoted to WR coach"

At which point you inferred... "Sean will eventually become a great head coach and that we will all eat huge crow knowing that Todd and Mike got similar starts?"

while I implied that being a former punter does not prevent him from being a fine TE coach, as some have alluded

Whether or not he is succesful I do not know.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: _33 on January 07, 2011, 12:43:56 PM
Whether or not he is successful I do not know.

I know.  Do you want me to tell you?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: LickNeckey on January 07, 2011, 12:48:55 PM
you don't know hullabaloo

but do enjoy being a pessimistic a$$hat

that i can appreciate
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Panjandrum on January 07, 2011, 12:51:29 PM
Whether or not he is succesfull I do not know.

I know.  Do you want me to tell you?

 :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: ew2x4 on January 07, 2011, 12:56:09 PM
Pretty sure there's absolutely no chance we'll have a HCIW with Currie at the helm.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 07, 2011, 12:56:25 PM
you don't know hullabaloo

but do enjoy being a pessimistic a$$hat

that i can appreciate

:lol:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Pete on January 07, 2011, 12:59:51 PM
Guys, guys, guys....


....LOADS of good bbs'ing in this thread, many view points, etc...


However, I think the most important "take away" of this entire thread is that every man, woman and child who has ever rested their eyes on this thred is in complete agreement that putting Sean on staff is a horrible idea, born from the mind of a man who is clinging to his last thread of football relavance by his gnarled, crooked, old man hands.

....Now, moving on from this common base of understanding, let's turn this thread toward examining WHY old balls is too much of a coward to change his ways....what causes this massive, unquestionable character flaw?  

I'm going to go with "no dad in the home," though I am NOT willing to rule out mental, physical, and/or sexual abuse from Hayden Fry.  go cats.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Pete on January 07, 2011, 01:01:58 PM
Pretty sure there's absolutely no chance we'll have a HCIW with Currie at the helm.

Yep.  AND, it's greater evidence for the existence of God than Oldfella's stigmata a couple years ago, IMO.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 07, 2011, 01:16:45 PM
at least we won't have to change the name of the stadium again when sean retires in thirty years and passes it along to tate.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: bakerman on January 07, 2011, 01:21:19 PM
at least we won't have to change the name of the stadium again when sean retires in thirty years and passes it along to tate.

Thank God for this! Those letters are expensive   :ksu:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: O-town Kat on January 07, 2011, 01:44:03 PM
Going to tell everyone I know that this is Bill's last year.  Will it into happening ya know. What do you think we will present him with at halftime of the ISU game?  A Harley?  What team will give him a rocking chair on the road?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: HeinBallz on January 07, 2011, 01:48:26 PM
I'm a big believer in thoughts becoming things, so I'm going to organize a combined effort in meditation.   Everyday at 4:00, everyone needs to face the direction of the football stadium, no matter where you are in the world and focus on LHC Bill Snyder being gone and replaced with a successful football coach.   If Indians can make it rain in the desert, we can make KSU football relevant again.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: LickNeckey on January 07, 2011, 01:51:22 PM
looks like somebody got a copy of "the secret" for christmas
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: O-town Kat on January 07, 2011, 02:00:15 PM
Just need some blowhole like Keitz out there to say 'well lots of KState fans out there seem to think this Bill's last season'
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Brock Landers on January 07, 2011, 02:18:40 PM
If Sean Snyder has actually moved onto the coaching staff, then it's too late -- Bill's "Final Solution" has already begun.

First, get Sean on staff for a year or two, gradually moving up in importance.

Next, come down with major illness, and put Sean in charge just before that season's KU game.

Sean follows Bill's gameplan to the letter and defeats the atrocious Fighting Gills.

Later that week, announce that the illness wasn't as bad as thought, but will require stepping down to stay on top of treatment.  Also say that the program is on solid footing with Sean in charge.  At that point, he shirt-tucks with money get into a frenzy and demand Sean be offered the job -- after all, he fits the criteria: 1. Name is Snyder.  2. Beat KU.

JFC, Bill is a guy who forces assistants to work 18 hrs a day, even if it involves staring at the wall to get the hours in.  You think he's going to let Currie pick his successor without a fight?  He's probably spending 18 hours a day in a tanning bed right now, laughing his ass off.




Dear The Whale,

Please don't post depressing stuff like this even if it's probably going to come true someday.  TIA
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Pett on January 07, 2011, 02:21:27 PM
_33. You need to edit this vid and add Jim Leavitt coming at the last second and saving Bill. :emawkid:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: CNS on January 07, 2011, 02:23:09 PM
_33. You need to edit this vid and add Jim Leavitt in it coming at the last second and saving delaying Bill. :emawkid:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 07, 2011, 02:24:07 PM
_33. You need to edit this vid and add Jim Leavitt in it coming at the last second and saving Bill. :emawkid:

if leavitt comes in at the last second of that video, then currie needs to shoot them both and then go to the dog store and get a mike leach dog and then bring it back to the farm and have the time of his freaking life w/ that thing.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: LickNeckey on January 07, 2011, 02:24:49 PM
if Jim is in Bill can be delayed

offense really wasn't a problem even with CCQ at the helm
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: CNS on January 07, 2011, 02:32:49 PM
Leach puppies are adorable. 

Would love one.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: felix rex on January 07, 2011, 02:34:29 PM
_33. You need to edit this vid and add Jim Leavitt in it coming at the last second and saving Bill. :emawkid:

if leavitt comes in at the last second of that video, then currie needs to shoot them both and then go to the dog store and get a mike leach dog and then bring it back to the farm and have the time of his freaking life w/ that thing.

_33 is staring at a long weekend.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: HeinBallz on January 07, 2011, 02:44:16 PM
looks like somebody got a copy of "the secret" for christmas

looks like someone thinks that "the secret" was the first thing to ever have this line of thinking. 
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: HeinBallz on January 07, 2011, 02:45:27 PM
_33. You need to edit this vid and add Jim Leavitt in it coming at the last second and saving Bill. :emawkid:

if leavitt comes in at the last second of that video, then currie needs to shoot them both and then go to the dog store and get a mike leach dog and then bring it back to the farm and have the time of his freaking life w/ that thing.


 :lol:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 07, 2011, 03:45:38 PM
I guess _33 just needs to do "Dead Man Walking" and Snyds is Sean Penn and Leavitt is Susan whatshername.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: MadCat on January 07, 2011, 04:06:17 PM
I'm a big believer in thoughts becoming things, so I'm going to organize a combined effort in meditation.   Everyday at 4:00, everyone needs to face the direction of the football stadium, no matter where you are in the world and focus on LHC Bill Snyder being gone and replaced with a successful football coach.   If Indians can make it rain in the desert, we can make KSU football relevant again.
Done
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 07, 2011, 04:51:41 PM
I'm a big believer in thoughts becoming things, so I'm going to organize a combined effort in meditation.   Everyday at 4:00, everyone needs to face the direction of the football stadium, no matter where you are in the world and focus on LHC Bill Snyder being gone and replaced with a successful football coach.   If Indians can make it rain in the desert, we can make KSU football relevant again.
Done

We should probably all make sure we focus on the same coach, or it won't happen. I vote we focus on Nick Saban, but I'm open to other ideas.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: MadCat on January 07, 2011, 05:00:10 PM
I'm a big believer in thoughts becoming things, so I'm going to organize a combined effort in meditation.   Everyday at 4:00, everyone needs to face the direction of the football stadium, no matter where you are in the world and focus on LHC Bill Snyder being gone and replaced with a successful football coach.   If Indians can make it rain in the desert, we can make KSU football relevant again.
Done

We should probably all make sure we focus on the same coach, or it won't happen. I vote we focus on Nick Saban, but I'm open to other ideas.

crap!  I may have just doomed us to the Sta-Puft Marshmallow Man.  :bang:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: blowthewhistle on January 07, 2011, 05:45:24 PM
FWIW head from a decent source that there's already a battle going on between snydes and currie about whether or not sean would take over for bill. Snydes is pushing hard for it and Currie wants to make his own hire.  :emawkid: < Currie
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2011, 05:46:35 PM
FWIW head from a decent source that there's already a battle going on between snydes and currie about whether or not sean would take over for bill. Snydes is pushing hard for it and Currie wants to make his own hire.  :emawkid: < Currie

God I love Currie
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: _33 on January 07, 2011, 05:53:07 PM
How could Bill be so stupid?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 07, 2011, 06:08:29 PM
I'd sell my soul to switch places with Currie just for those moments when Bill brings this up.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: jtksu on January 07, 2011, 06:17:17 PM
Your source is a full on Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  There is no possible way that Sean could move up to HC in just a few years.  More likely, Currie and Snyder are arguing over whether or not Sean will take over the TE's and your Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) friend's 8 time removed source misunderstood the situation.  When you hang with retards, you're gonna get some slobber on you.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Panjandrum on January 07, 2011, 07:41:50 PM
I'd sell my soul to switch places with Currie just for those moments when Bill brings this up.

I'm thinking slapping would be involved.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 07, 2011, 07:59:59 PM
FWIW head from a decent source that there's already a battle going on between snydes and currie about whether or not sean would take over for bill. Snydes is pushing hard for it and Currie wants to make his own hire.  :emawkid: < Currie
Bill I'm not joking I will go to Tatarrax and burn that [redacted] down.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: treysolid on January 07, 2011, 08:45:02 PM
snyder was a latchkey kid.  he's just returning the favor, leaving the backdoor to the coaches chair open for sean.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: hemmy on August 04, 2011, 09:47:09 PM
funny video
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: sunny_cat on November 15, 2015, 11:30:39 AM
Time to pull the trigger Currie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfR-JRxe9lk
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: catastrophe on November 15, 2015, 12:30:53 PM
Very ironic statement considering the date _33 first posted this.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: sunny_cat on November 15, 2015, 12:34:07 PM
Very ironic statement considering the date _33 first posted this.

shut up dumbass
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: MakeItRain on November 15, 2015, 06:07:32 PM
Very ironic statement considering the date _33 first posted this.

I'm confused, why is that ironic?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 15, 2015, 06:09:49 PM
Very ironic statement considering the date _33 first posted this.

I'm confused, why is that ironic?

Because catastrophe is a lousy poster
Title: Old Snyder
Post by: catastrophe on November 15, 2015, 06:53:41 PM
Very ironic statement considering the date _33 first posted this.

I'm confused, why is that ironic?

Because sunny_cat is saying it's time for Snyder to go, but in doing so actually reminds everyone that the last time there was a similar sentiment in Wildcat land, KSU was on the verge of one of its strongest 2-season runs in history.

Edit: and me being a crappy poster has nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: scottwildcat on November 15, 2015, 07:00:25 PM
No you just suck


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Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: chunkles on November 15, 2015, 08:40:39 PM
Your source is a full on Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  There is no possible way that Sean could move up to HC in just a few years.  More likely, Currie and Snyder are arguing over whether or not Sean will take over the TE's and your Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) friend's 8 time removed source misunderstood the situation.  When you hang with retards, you're gonna get some slobber on you.

 :lol:
I hope this is why slobber went with his username
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: _33 on November 15, 2015, 08:42:04 PM
Very ironic statement considering the date _33 first posted this.

I'm confused, why is that ironic?

Because sunny_cat is saying it's time for Snyder to go, but in doing so actually reminds everyone that the last time there was a similar sentiment in Wildcat land, KSU was on the verge of one of its strongest 2-season runs in history.

Yeah what do you think motivated Snyder to have those 2 great seasons?  You're welcome catastrophe and wildcat fans everywhere.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: MakeItRain on November 15, 2015, 08:57:11 PM
Very ironic statement considering the date _33 first posted this.

I'm confused, why is that ironic?

Because sunny_cat is saying it's time for Snyder to go, but in doing so actually reminds everyone that the last time there was a similar sentiment in Wildcat land, KSU was on the verge of one of its strongest 2-season runs in history.

Edit: and me being a crappy poster has nothing to do with it.

That's not ironic, Alanis.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 15, 2015, 09:14:53 PM
Very ironic statement considering the date _33 first posted this.

I'm confused, why is that ironic?

Because sunny_cat is saying it's time for Snyder to go, but in doing so actually reminds everyone that the last time there was a similar sentiment in Wildcat land, KSU was on the verge of one of its strongest 2-season runs in history.

Edit: and me being a crappy poster has nothing to do with it.

That's not ironic, Alanis.

but its a thing that makes you go hmm
Title: Old Snyder
Post by: catastrophe on November 16, 2015, 08:10:08 AM
Very ironic statement considering the date _33 first posted this.

I'm confused, why is that ironic?

Because sunny_cat is saying it's time for Snyder to go, but in doing so actually reminds everyone that the last time there was a similar sentiment in Wildcat land, KSU was on the verge of one of its strongest 2-season runs in history.

Edit: and me being a crappy poster has nothing to do with it.

That's not ironic, Alanis.

IT IS IRONIC. His way of saying Snyder should go is basically an argument that Snyder should stay.

I will not have my understanding of the English language cruciferously attacked on this board. (See what I did there?)
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: steve dave on November 16, 2015, 08:17:09 AM
irony is a tough thing to understand and use correctly in both music and message boarding
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: CNS on November 16, 2015, 08:29:55 AM
irony is a tough thing to understand and use correctly in both music and message boarding
It's pretty much the third rail for most ppl.

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Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: OK_Cat on November 16, 2015, 08:32:54 AM
Is it ironic that his name is catastrophe and he is a terrible poster? 
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: KanSt43 on November 16, 2015, 08:46:58 AM
Remember when Snyder said he was basically pissed off at his recruiting staff because they didn't go after any JUCO talent this year?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: MakeItRain on November 16, 2015, 03:45:49 PM
Very ironic statement considering the date _33 first posted this.

I'm confused, why is that ironic?

Because sunny_cat is saying it's time for Snyder to go, but in doing so actually reminds everyone that the last time there was a similar sentiment in Wildcat land, KSU was on the verge of one of its strongest 2-season runs in history.

Edit: and me being a crappy poster has nothing to do with it.

That's not ironic, Alanis.

IT IS IRONIC. His way of saying Snyder should go is basically an argument that Snyder should stay.


(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fblogs%2Fthecrescat%2Ffiles%2F2014%2F01%2FieeRSPq_zpsd37a1e6c.gif&hash=d4fb33f7a9a366572a0eb81d5212b401006e8604)
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: MadCat on November 17, 2015, 09:41:23 AM
Is it like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife?
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: catastrophe on November 17, 2015, 09:51:55 AM
FWIW - I consider a song titled "Ironic" with no actually ironic lyrics to be ironic.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Panjandrum on November 17, 2015, 10:07:58 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nkayesel.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F02%2FHow-did-i-get-here-dorothy-wizrd-of-oz.jpg&hash=af421ecd4fbb9ab40ea83157bb7cf8e32fec3671)
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: sunny_cat on November 17, 2015, 10:10:31 AM
sorry panj
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 17, 2015, 10:23:52 AM
Get Snyder a body bag!
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: chunkles on November 17, 2015, 06:06:25 PM
 'Old IronySnydes' is a wiki article/historical document i plan on making about this thread.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: MakeItRain on November 17, 2015, 07:48:57 PM
I'm pretty pissed that no one noticed that I used one of Alanis' exes for my gif :don'tcare:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: TownieCat on November 17, 2015, 08:36:09 PM
I'm pretty pissed that no one noticed that I used one of Alanis' exes for my gif :don'tcare:
You should've used a Coulier gif instead.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 17, 2015, 08:53:26 PM
There's plenty of irony in that song, btw. But I guess some people would rather just recycle old jokes from VH1 "I Love The 90s" commentary.  :Wha:
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: HerrSonntag on November 18, 2015, 12:55:33 AM
Quote
An old man turned ninety-eight
He won the lottery and died the next day
ironic:the expectation of a good life is met with its inverse
It's a black fly in your Chardonnay ironic:the expectation of a tasty beverage is met with disgust
It's a death row pardon two minutes too late* not ionic: the expectation of forgiveness from the pardoner is met with unequivocal judgement
Isn't it ironic, don't you think

It's like rain on your wedding day ironic: the expectation of a pleasant event met with unpleasant circumstance
It's a free ride when you've already paid* not ironic: the expectation of a gift giver met with unfortunate pretence
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
Who would've thought, it figures

Mr. Play It Safe was afraid to fly
He packed his suitcase and kissed his kids good-bye
He waited his whole damn life to take that flight
And as the plane crashed down he thought
"Well, isn't this nice." not ironic: confirmation of previously held affirmations
And isn't it ironic, l don't you think

It's like rain on your wedding day ibid
It's a free ride when you've already paid* ibid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
Who would've thought, it figures

Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
When you think everything's okay and everything's going right
And life has a funny way of helping you out when
You think everything's gone wrong and everything blows up
ironic:expectations of disaster met with normalcy
In your face

A traffic jam when you're already late not ironic: misfortune met with misfortune
A no-smoking sign on your cigarette break ironic: expectations of smoking met with explicit opposition
It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife ironic:expectations of knife centric food consumption met with abundance of inadequate material
It's meeting the man of my dreams
And then meeting his beautiful wife
ironic:expectation of romantic tryst met with opposition
And isn't it ironic, don't you think
A little too ironic, and yeah I really do think

It's like rain on your wedding day ibid
It's a free ride when you've already paid* ibid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
Who would've thought, it figures

Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
And life has a funny way of helping you out
Helping you out.
*: situations could be considered ironic from the perspective of the second party

I'd say its fairly ironic
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: catastrophe on November 18, 2015, 01:23:22 AM
Seems a little liberal on the concept of irony. I mean, if you go to a Cats game expecting we are going to win but then we lose, who would really say "well isn't that ironic?"
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 18, 2015, 06:06:51 AM
lmao catastrophe is so butthurt about being clowned
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: HerrSonntag on November 18, 2015, 08:26:43 AM
Seems a little liberal on the concept of irony. I mean, if you go to a Cats game expecting we are going to win but then we lose, who would really say "well isn't that ironic?"
Eh not really, there'd have to be some prevailing affect in play already, going into the game, that would prevent even the possibility of winning, to make it ironic.  e.g - got pumped up to win but a storm was on its way to rain out the game, or Pawl got all the players jacked up on mountain dew making them unstoppable.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Panjandrum on November 18, 2015, 11:45:16 AM
Guys, I just can't take much more of this.  Watching the final three games of this season is going to be like getting fillings for four hours every Saturday.

Quote
In these trying times, Kansas State’s football team continues to look for answers to solve the issues that have led to six consecutive losses.

The simple solution is to play better, but as a means to the end coach LHC Bill Snyder is relying on his time-tested “16 Goals for Success.” Snyder challenged his team at practice Monday to revisit those goals.

“If you were to look down through those 16 goals, there is hardly a one that doesn’t apply to where we sit on this given day,” Snyder said Tuesday at his weekly media conference. “My encouragement to them was last evening that they take 10 minutes out of their night before they went to bed and take their goals out and ask the question, ‘How does that apply to me at this point in time?’ “

http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2015-11-17/k-state-football-reviews-road-success (http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2015-11-17/k-state-football-reviews-road-success)

Quote
“Coach Snyder talked to us before practice about how each one of those 16 goals can be applied to our situation,” linebacker Will Davis said. “If every individual can apply those 16 goals, or even take one goal and apply it, it can help our team.

“The one for me is definitely leadership. All of the older guys who have been there before and won games, we really need to show our leadership and bring this team back up from the depths.”

Linebacker Elijah Lee focused on No. 12, which is no self-limitations, as did center Dalton Risner.

“I sat down between dinner and our next meeting and he told us to find one we needed to work on,” Risner said. “A couple I looked at were never give up — I’m never going to give up on my team — and don’t accept losing — I hate losing.

“The one that popped up to me was no self-limitations. I thought this year I put some limitations on myself being a younger guy. I did what coach Snyder said and it was good to see what I need to work on.”
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: SEK_EMAW on November 18, 2015, 12:04:45 PM
Probably luked but whatever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GVJpOmaDyU

Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: MakeItRain on November 18, 2015, 12:47:09 PM
She's so adorable, love her.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Trim on November 18, 2015, 12:56:40 PM
She's so adorable, love her.

You gotta get out of iowa.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: MakeItRain on November 18, 2015, 02:06:17 PM
She's so adorable, love her.

You gotta get out of iowa.

I don't think I lived here in the 90's
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Skipper44 on November 18, 2015, 04:29:06 PM
She's so adorable, love her.

You gotta get out of iowa.

I don't think I lived here in the 90's
ranking the :love: factor of 90's female vocalists could be a great combo fanning thread
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 18, 2015, 04:37:26 PM
She's so adorable, love her.

You gotta get out of iowa.

I don't think I lived here in the 90's
ranking the :love: factor of 90's female vocalists could be a great combo fanning thread

omg lisa loeb :love:

Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: MakeItRain on November 18, 2015, 04:38:38 PM
She's so adorable, love her.

You gotta get out of iowa.

I don't think I lived here in the 90's
ranking the :love: factor of 90's female vocalists could be a great combo fanning thread

omg lisa loeb :love:

Yep, there's your top 2. Most underrated, Robyn.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: star seed 7 on November 18, 2015, 05:00:41 PM
Loeb makes the contest unfair.

I was at a strip club in lawrence with a gf and a bud and we are the only ones in there and the girl on stage starts dancing to stay and my bud busts out laughing at the song choice and the stripper gets a sour look and yells across the room "don't hate!"

There's my Lisa Loeb story
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 18, 2015, 05:09:20 PM
Loeb makes the contest unfair.

I was at a strip club in lawrence with a gf and a bud and we are the only ones in there and the girl on stage starts dancing to stay and my bud busts out laughing at the song choice and the stripper gets a sour look and yells across the room "don't hate!"

There's my Lisa Loeb story

In 2011 my new year's res was to learn all the words to Bombs Over Baghdad and Stay. I spent like a month over the summer learning B.O.B. and it took forever and I basically forgot about the Lisa Loeb one until NYE night when I was getting ready to go out. Put it on repeat and crammed in the shower for like 3 or 4 spins, memorized it. Resolution complete.

There's my Lisa Loeb story
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Trim on November 18, 2015, 05:44:10 PM
I think I saw MIR lip sync or sing Stay in the hospitality suite at the kc crowne plaza.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: MakeItRain on November 18, 2015, 07:06:14 PM
I think I saw MIR lip sync or sing Stay in the hospitality suite at the kc crowne plaza.

You think? I don't lip sync, I have too much talent for that.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Trim on November 18, 2015, 09:47:11 PM
I think I saw MIR lip sync or sing Stay in the hospitality suite at the kc crowne plaza.

You think? I don't lip sync, I have too much talent for that.

I also think I was drinking a lot.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on May 28, 2024, 07:12:10 PM
Call me crazy but I think the 16 goals for success show up in this week’s ep of TAL (about 15 minutes in)

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4mmnyjJJteArl8KvLNi2mh?si=mlC1sfUXRPuumSxX5pAy4g&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A41zWZdWCpVQrKj7ykQnXRc
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on May 28, 2024, 07:13:50 PM
Call me crazy but I think the 16 goals for success show up in this week’s ep of TAL (about 15 minutes in). Did the goals push someone to suicide?

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4mmnyjJJteArl8KvLNi2mh?si=mlC1sfUXRPuumSxX5pAy4g&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A41zWZdWCpVQrKj7ykQnXRc
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on May 28, 2024, 07:47:57 PM
Call me crazy but I think the 16 goals for success show up in this week’s ep of TAL (about 15 minutes in). Did the goals push someone to suicide?

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4mmnyjJJteArl8KvLNi2mh?si=mlC1sfUXRPuumSxX5pAy4g&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A41zWZdWCpVQrKj7ykQnXRc

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I'm on a Zoom call with my brother Pat, talking about a list that was written by our other brother, Mike. And I want to ask him what he thinks I should do with it. It's one of the last pieces of Mike's writing that we have.

John Fecile
What do you think should be done with this list?

Pat Fecile
I don't care. If you burned it, I wouldn't feel sad. I wouldn't be angry. I'd say, why'd you burn it without me?

John Fecile
My brother Mike died in 2015. That's almost 10 years ago now, jeez. And trigger warning and all that-- he died because of a suicidal act. It's unclear why he did what he did. There were stories his roommates told about paranoia, hallucinations, Mike becoming obsessed with aliens. It was all so sudden and shocking that my family and I started grasping around for anything, trying to make it all make sense, which brings me to the list.

Mike wrote the list the summer he was about to be a sophomore in high school, 16 principles to live his life by, titled "Goals for Success," double underlined on a rectangular piece of poster board. They were corny bro-isms, if I'm being honest. "Make a commitment." "Be unselfish." "Create unity." "Come together as never before."

As you can see, Mike was a real overachiever, Type A type. "Improve every day as a player, person, and student." "Be tough." "Be self-disciplined." "Do it right. Don't accept less." He was captain of the high school football team, straight-A student. "Give great effort." "Be enthusiastic." "Eliminate mistakes-- don't beat yourself."

He hung the list on his closet door facing his bed so that when he woke up in the morning, the first thing he saw was, "Expect to win." "Be consistent." "Develop leadership." "Be responsible."

I first noticed the list when I went into Mike's bedroom to steal a pair of his boxers. I was always forgetting to do my laundry. Mike always did his. And my feelings about the list were immediately complicated. I felt like it was somehow judging me.

I was the oldest of my siblings, but to me, Mike always felt older. He was Mr. Rotary Club, Mr. Scheduled Out His Daily Routine. I was Mr. Been Arrested Twice, Mr. Smoking Weed out of an Aluminum Can and Probably Doing Irreparable Damage to My Lungs in the Woods.
Title: Re: Old Snyder
Post by: _33 on June 04, 2024, 12:24:50 PM
Whoa, Old Snyder. What a time.