Old Snyder

[chum1]

regardless of opinions on snyder, what a bunch of typical butthurt kstate fans.  embarrassing thread overall.

[michigancat]

my thoughts are- if you have someone that i think is good and is already signed up then you get rid of the current staff. if you don't have that person lined up, then i guess i just don't really care. hiring his son would probably tip the scale for me though.  

I don't understand this logic, because our current program really can't get much worse.  It's like, next to impossible.

I would say that there's about a 60% chance that our next coach actually performs worse than Snyder/Prince. Maybe I'm being unfair to Curry/Schultz here, but it's just hard for me to be optimistic.

60% chance of being worse than Prince?  Seriously?  I guess we should have rough ridin' joined the Mountain West when we had the chance.

[OK_Cat]

my thoughts are- if you have someone that i think is good and is already signed up then you get rid of the current staff. if you don't have that person lined up, then i guess i just don't really care. hiring his son would probably tip the scale for me though. 

I don't understand this logic, because our current program really can't get much worse.  It's like, next to impossible.

I would say that there's about a 60% chance that our next coach actually performs worse than Snyder/Prince. Maybe I'm being unfair to Curry/Schultz here, but it's just hard for me to be optimistic.

....and there you go.  A large majority of our fanbase thinks just like that.  "But but but!  Snyder did it before, I don't think anybody else will!"

 

[MadCat]

K-State football's got a fever and the only prescription is...more Snyder. 

[catzacker]

regardless of opinions on snyder, what a bunch of typical butthurt kstate fans.  embarrassing thread overall.

explain.

[Rage Against the McKee]

my thoughts are- if you have someone that i think is good and is already signed up then you get rid of the current staff. if you don't have that person lined up, then i guess i just don't really care. hiring his son would probably tip the scale for me though. 

I don't understand this logic, because our current program really can't get much worse.  It's like, next to impossible.

I would say that there's about a 60% chance that our next coach actually performs worse than Snyder/Prince. Maybe I'm being unfair to Curry/Schultz here, but it's just hard for me to be optimistic.

....and there you go.  A large majority of our fanbase thinks just like that.  "But but but!  Snyder did it before, I don't think anybody else will!"

 

Oh, I still think we should fire Snyder. I just wouldn't be surprised at all if the next coach is fired after 3 years with a sub .500 record.

[michigancat]

my thoughts are- if you have someone that i think is good and is already signed up then you get rid of the current staff. if you don't have that person lined up, then i guess i just don't really care. hiring his son would probably tip the scale for me though. 

I don't understand this logic, because our current program really can't get much worse.  It's like, next to impossible.

I would say that there's about a 60% chance that our next coach actually performs worse than Snyder/Prince. Maybe I'm being unfair to Curry/Schultz here, but it's just hard for me to be optimistic.

....and there you go.  A large majority of our fanbase thinks just like that.  "But but but!  Snyder did it before, I don't think anybody else will!"

 

Oh, I still think we should fire Snyder. I just wouldn't be surprised at all if the next coach is fired after 3 years with a sub .500 record.

That's different from "performing worse".  For example, if a coach comes in and has recruiting classes in the top half of the Big 12, but a sub .500 record after 3 years, I would consider that performing better than what we have now and want the coach to stay.  Right now, I have absolutely no hope for the future.  I'm a butthurt kstatefan fan.

[bakerman]

I just want to be a part of this thread

+1. It's like so I can say I was there someday to the grandkids and stuff.

[Trim]

Pete, do some research on how much it's going to cost for an airplane to tow along a video screen of sorts playing Old Snyder on a loop.  T-Y, Trim

Video Blimp!

Would prefer it to replace the 'Proud of the House' video before games.

That's totally unrealistic.

[steve dave]

This Sean thing is just incredible.  I'm not even one that wants Bill fired this very second.  My best case scenario is that the AD or Bill comes out and says something like, "We are keeping our eyes open for a unique opportunity (ie. Leach/Rich) in a coach and Bill will continue to be the head coach at Kansas State until that opportunity arises".  I would be happy as crap to watch Bill coach'em up for another year or two if I thought that our AD was actually conducting a long term coaching search for the right disgraced elite coach that would actually take the job.  But, you have to be as blind as an ostrich (thanks sys) to not see where Bill is going with this Sean crap.  

[Dr Rick Daris]

my thoughts are- if you have someone that i think is good and is already signed up then you get rid of the current staff. if you don't have that person lined up, then i guess i just don't really care. hiring his son would probably tip the scale for me though. 

I don't understand this logic, because our current program really can't get much worse.  It's like, next to impossible.

that's ridiculous. it could get a lot worse. not saying that it should be used as a reason to not make a move, but not at least acknowledging it is kind of absurd.

[Rage Against the McKee]

This Sean thing is just incredible.  I'm not even one that wants Bill fired this very second.  My best case scenario is that the AD or Bill comes out and says something like, "We are keeping our eyes open for a unique opportunity (ie. Leach/Rich) in a coach and Bill will continue to be the head coach at Kansas State until that opportunity arises".  I would be happy as crap to watch Bill coach'em up for another year or two if I thought that our AD was actually conducting a long term coaching search for the right disgraced elite coach that would actually take the job.  But, you have to be as blind as an ostrich (thanks sys) to not see where Bill is going with this Sean crap.  

That opportunity has arisen. Both of those coaches are jobless and will not be available in a year or two.

[Gooch]

At the aTm game I was told directly by Casey Scott "there is no rough ridin' way that punter is going to be the coach of this university".

[Poster formerly known as jthutch]

I don't have a problem with Bill or Sean.  I just want our defense to get better.  Fire the whole defensive staff or just Cosh.  If Snyder cannot fire Cosh then I can see him needing to go. 

[kougar24]

Well, I made this after Tate's commitment, but I guess it's a good time to dust it off again...

[Dr Rick Daris]

This Sean thing is just incredible.  I'm not even one that wants Bill fired this very second.  My best case scenario is that the AD or Bill comes out and says something like, "We are keeping our eyes open for a unique opportunity (ie. Leach/Rich) in a coach and Bill will continue to be the head coach at Kansas State until that opportunity arises".  I would be happy as cac to watch Bill coach'em up for another year or two if I thought that our AD was actually conducting a long term coaching search for the right disgraced elite coach that would actually take the job.  But, you have to be as blind as an ostrich (thanks sys) to not see where Bill is going with this Sean cac.  

i am hoping beyond hope that this is the case. the first stuff and not the snyder to snyder baton handoff stuff. that's why the hiring of sean would pretty much end any fence sitting for me.

besides that, it's just lazy staff hiring. someone on staff quits? just make the guy who's not on staff that apparently already coaches a lot an actual coach. i mean, he's never actually been on staff and is well into his 40's so yeah it seems weird as hell but gosh, at least we don't have to go out and find someone and can just sit around in our offices and stare at the walls some more.

[michigancat]

that's ridiculous. it could get a lot worse. not saying that it should be used as a reason to not make a move, but not at least acknowledging it is kind of absurd.

It's very, very difficult for a coach hired by a competent search to do worse in this day and age.  Look at the BCS since 2003 and tell me who has clearly performed "a lot worse" than KSU overall?  Baylor, Duke, Indiana, and Washington State.  And Baylor is at least clearly heading in the right direction.  It can be done, but it's difficult to do a lot worse.

[kougar24]

that's ridiculous. it could get a lot worse. not saying that it should be used as a reason to not make a move, but not at least acknowledging it is kind of absurd.

It's very, very difficult for a coach hired by a competent search to do worse in this day and age.  Look at the BCS since 2003 and tell me who has clearly performed "a lot worse" than KSU overall?  Baylor, Duke, Indiana, and Washington State.  And Baylor is at least clearly heading in the right direction.  It can be done, but it's difficult to do a lot worse.

I don't think many of us can handle that truth.

[O-town Kat]

Currie will pull the plug when Bill goes south of 6-6. Just sux that one of the better, attainable HCs in Leach is just sitting there right now.

[Dugout DickStone]

Great video.  I want to run around and show all my friends.

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

i kind of still like/don't mind snyder and probably only really want him gone if someone like leach or richrod or similar is already signed up to come on board. putting sean on staff would probably push me over the edge though. it's really not even defensible, but then again neither was the full scholarship to his one/two star football playing grandson.

Bringing Sean on staff would completely push me over the edge.

agree 100% with daris in this thread.  (even used no caps to emphasize.)

[GetVocalwithCurt]

Currie will hire the next football coach. Not Snyder. The man hired Lane Kiffin and oscar Pearl. You really think he is gonna let LHC Bill Snyder run the show. If he didn't let Phil Fulmer give any input than Snyder won't have much of a say.

[steve dave]

Currie will hire the next football coach. Not Snyder. The man hired Lane Kiffin and oscar Pearl. You really think he is gonna let LHC Bill Snyder run the show. If he didn't let Phil Fulmer give any input than Snyder won't have much of a say.

It's true he is going to make the hire.  But, he really can't take credit for everything that has happened at TN.  He wasn't the man in charge. 

[_33]

The main reason I hate Snyder is that he came back when we had a great opportunity to make a great hire.  I really hate him for this.  Like, why did he come back?  Why did he do this to us?

[kso_FAN]

The main reason I hate Snyder is that he came back when we had a great opportunity to make a great hire.  I really hate him for this.  Like, why did he come back?  Why did he do this to us?

B/c the people in charge let him (or even asked him to) come back.  I can see why he did it, the athletic department was a mess.