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Title: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: pissclams on October 22, 2010, 01:20:46 PM
Hypothetical question obviously, but how do you guys think this year's K-State team would do against the bottom third of the NBA teams?

Each division in the NBA has 5 teams, so let's just say we take the bottom 2 teams from each division which would make 12 teams.  K-State plays each of these teams 2 times.

I'd guess that K-State wins half of those games, 12 times they could go out on the floor and not only compete with NBA team, but actually win.

Our frontcourt is on par with all 12 of those teams and is better than at least half of them. 

Put on your seatbelt boys, this season is going to be one helluva ride...  :cheers:
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2010, 01:25:16 PM
Most of those teams would have a "Kobe-stopper" type player that they would try to lock down on Jake but Jake has better range than Kobe and a little better handle so they wouldn't be 100% ready for what he brings.  
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: Joker on October 22, 2010, 01:26:25 PM
I think it all depends on whether we get college refs or nba refs.  If Wally gets one extra step to slam dunk, I think you could even go as high as 14 wins.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: MeatSauce on October 22, 2010, 01:27:10 PM
Franks hard nosed/inyourface type D would give those primadonnas fits.  Wouldn't know what to do w/ a hand in their face for the first time in 3 or 4 years.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2010, 01:28:52 PM
What about the game between Beaz's Timberwolves and the K-State Cats!?  :surprised:
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: doom on October 22, 2010, 01:41:27 PM
What about the game between Beaz's Timberwolves and the K-State Cats!?  :surprised:

We can't deal with Beasley.  He's WAY too talented, but I'd still go 15-18 wins.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: AlwaysEMAW on October 22, 2010, 01:49:24 PM
 :facepalm: we would maybe win between 6-10 games.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: doom on October 22, 2010, 01:54:29 PM
:facepalm: we would maybe win between 6-10 games.

 :chainsaw: Way to believe in your team, bad person.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: AlwaysEMAW on October 22, 2010, 02:00:01 PM
:facepalm: we would maybe win between 6-10 games.

 :chainsaw: Way to believe in your team, bad person.
6-10 wins would be amazing. I don't think any national championship team ever would win even half. 
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: kitten_mittons on October 22, 2010, 02:11:55 PM
:facepalm: we would maybe win between 6-10 games.

 :chainsaw: Way to believe in your team, bad person.
6-10 wins would be amazing. I don't think any national championship team ever would win even half. 

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: T42YS on October 22, 2010, 02:13:27 PM
This thread could have possibly been the greatest in the history of this website.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: The1BigWillie on October 22, 2010, 02:13:57 PM
:facepalm: we would maybe win between 6-10 games.

 :chainsaw: Way to believe in your team, bad person.
6-10 wins would be amazing. I don't think any national championship team ever would win even half. 

You are high.  There isn't that much of a difference between top flight college players and those old guys in the NBA.  The lane is wider and the 3 point line further back.  Pretty much the only difference.  KSU wins at least 50%.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: AlwaysEMAW on October 22, 2010, 02:27:37 PM
:facepalm: we would maybe win between 6-10 games.

 :chainsaw: Way to believe in your team, bad person.
6-10 wins would be amazing. I don't think any national championship team ever would win even half. 

You are high.  There isn't that much of a difference between top flight college players and those old guys in the NBA.  The lane is wider and the 3 point line further back.  Pretty much the only difference.  KSU wins at least 50%.
This is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). How many top flight college players do you believe our team has that could play significant minutes on an NBA team right now? I say 3, maybe 4.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 22, 2010, 02:32:19 PM
As we all know, nobody plays defense in the NBA. Our boys would be on those guys like stink on crap, and they would have no answer for it. Meanwhile, Pullen would just keep raining in wide open 3's in transition off of Curtis Kelly and Wally Judge blocks. Cats go at least .600.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 22, 2010, 02:33:38 PM
:facepalm: we would maybe win between 6-10 games.

 :chainsaw: Way to believe in your team, bad person.
6-10 wins would be amazing. I don't think any national championship team ever would win even half. 

You are high.  There isn't that much of a difference between top flight college players and those old guys in the NBA.  The lane is wider and the 3 point line further back.  Pretty much the only difference.  KSU wins at least 50%.
This is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). How many top flight college players do you believe our team has that could play significant minutes on an NBA team right now? I say 3, maybe 4.

How many players in the bottom 2 on NBA rosters play significant minutes on an NBA team right now?
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: AlwaysEMAW on October 22, 2010, 02:36:54 PM
:facepalm: we would maybe win between 6-10 games.

 :chainsaw: Way to believe in your team, bad person.
6-10 wins would be amazing. I don't think any national championship team ever would win even half. 

You are high.  There isn't that much of a difference between top flight college players and those old guys in the NBA.  The lane is wider and the 3 point line further back.  Pretty much the only difference.  KSU wins at least 50%.
This is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). How many top flight college players do you believe our team has that could play significant minutes on an NBA team right now? I say 3, maybe 4.

How many players in the bottom 2 on NBA rosters play significant minutes on an NBA team right now?
You didn't answer my question. Also, I don't understand yours
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: Joker on October 22, 2010, 02:40:11 PM
Remember in 2003 when the Oklahoma Sooners football team beat the Arizona Cardinals?  It's really not that uncommon.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: gokatgo on October 22, 2010, 02:41:40 PM
What about the game between Beaz's Timberwolves and the K-State Cats!?  :surprised:

Beaz isn't nearly as good as he used to be...Curt would get in his face and take away the jumper, force him to drive right and he's got nothin.

Plus Jake's in way better shape than most NBA players.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: SleepFighter on October 22, 2010, 02:46:09 PM
What about the game between Beaz's Timberwolves and the K-State Cats!?  :surprised:

Beaz isn't nearly as good as he used to be...Curt would get in his face and take away the jumper, force him to drive right and he's got nothin.

Plus Jake's in way better shape than most NBA players.

Indeed, ever since Mario Chalmers introduced him to the pot, he's been no where near as effective. 

None the less, leaning on underclassmen for significant minutes  at one of the guard spots I think we'd be hard pressed to win more than 1/3 of our games.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: AlwaysEMAW on October 22, 2010, 02:53:35 PM
Remember in 2003 when the Oklahoma Sooners football team beat the Arizona Cardinals?  It's really not that uncommon.
I can't find record of this anywhere. Also, I never said we couldn't beat any of them
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2010, 02:58:10 PM
How do you guys think our freshmen would respond?  I think Will would handle the pressure pretty well but some of those NBA guards may be a bit physical for him.  Nino has an NBA ready body and would probably not have many issues banging with those NBA SFs.  We may be able to utilize him on mismatches against their undersized wings.

EDIT:  My Will Spradling comment was assuming these were games played right now and not at the end of this season after Will's had a year of getting swoled up by Greeny obv. 
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: doom on October 22, 2010, 02:59:13 PM
Remember in 2003 when the Oklahoma Sooners football team beat the Arizona Cardinals?  It's really not that uncommon.
I can't find record of this anywhere. Also, I never said we couldn't beat any of them

AlwaysEMAW is getting clowned by real EMAW fans.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: kstater on October 22, 2010, 03:07:04 PM
I really don't see any way they would lose one.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: chuckjames on October 22, 2010, 03:12:22 PM
sd i agree about the freshman and i think southwell with his enormous wingspan will be able to shut down the other teams best player...i think the real question is who wins between the lakers and the cats in a seven game series...
pg- fisher vs pullen- huge advantage cats
sg- kobe vs whoever we play here- kobe knee is still messed up so i say this is prolly a push
sf -artest vs southwell-their basically the same player but southwell can shoot better
pf-kelly vs gasol-this might be the only spot the lakers have an advantage
c-asprilla vs bynum-again bynum has a bum knee and asprilla has great touch around the basketball
bench-kstate is deeper and has more heart
and of course the ood will kill the staples center

so i think we win the series in 7 but just my opinion  :dunno:
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: AlwaysEMAW on October 22, 2010, 03:15:23 PM
Obviously our defense would create some problems, but the speed and strength of the NBA guys is just too much. Wally had troubles adjusting to the strength of a lot of the better college big men out there last year.

Guys that could match up against the NBA's worst teams' contributors:
Wally
Jake
Curtis
Jamar-This one is even doubtful because he probably isn't strong enough.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: jtksu on October 22, 2010, 03:16:03 PM
With Greenie's tough love, I fully expect Sprads to look like a white Irving by X-Mas.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: pissclams on October 22, 2010, 03:17:36 PM
A lot of this purely hypothetical discussion revolves around some points that have already been brought up in this thread:
1) who refs these  games.  NBA refs are going to give the nod to NBA players, no doubt.  how about a mixed crew of 50% Nba refs and 50% CBB refs?

2) our freshman vs NBA players.  let's make this little session take place after SATAN has had a month with the freshman and then see what kind of impact that training has on the new kids.  i have a feeling we'll be singing Boyz II Men songs all night because those freshman will be men and they'll be singing the Motown Philly in harmony by that point.

3) Beaz.  sorry bro, Beaz you have to sit out.  Same with all of our other NBA stars.  no cat on cat bs.

4) the "D" stands for DEFENSE.  martin has these guys playing with so much defensive tenacity that no NBA team (including the good ones) will want to bang with our bigs.

5) the Spradling Effect.  the kid can stroke it from downtown.  

6) unknown, misc type stuff that always happens

7) NBA coaches afraid to coach against Frank Martin and instead try to coach around him.    :nono:
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: WildcatNation on October 22, 2010, 03:24:44 PM
sd i agree about the freshman and i think southwell with his enormous wingspan will be able to shut down the other teams best player...i think the real question is who wins between the lakers and the cats in a seven game series...
pg- fisher vs pullen- huge advantage cats
sg- kobe vs whoever we play here- kobe knee is still messed up so i say this is prolly a push
sf -artest vs southwell-their basically the same player but southwell can shoot better
pf-kelly vs gasol-this might be the only spot the lakers have an advantage
c-asprilla vs bynum-again bynum has a bum knee and asprilla has great touch around the basketball
bench-kstate is deeper and has more heart
and of course the ood will kill the staples center

so i think we win the series in 7 but just my opinion  :dunno:

the dumbest post i have EVER read. so an elite 8 college team could beat the 2 time repeat NBA champions?...LOL. Kobe with NO legs could drop 40 on our team without trying.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: chuckjames on October 22, 2010, 03:28:42 PM
sd i agree about the freshman and i think southwell with his enormous wingspan will be able to shut down the other teams best player...i think the real question is who wins between the lakers and the cats in a seven game series...
pg- fisher vs pullen- huge advantage cats
sg- kobe vs whoever we play here- kobe knee is still messed up so i say this is prolly a push
sf -artest vs southwell-their basically the same player but southwell can shoot better
pf-kelly vs gasol-this might be the only spot the lakers have an advantage
c-asprilla vs bynum-again bynum has a bum knee and asprilla has great touch around the basketball
bench-kstate is deeper and has more heart
and of course the ood will kill the staples center

so i think we win the series in 7 but just my opinion  :dunno:

the dumbest post i have EVER read. so an elite 8 college team could beat the 2 time repeat NBA champions?...LOL. Kobe with NO legs could drop 40 on our team without trying. 

maybe check your sarcasm meter??  :dunno:
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: pissclams on October 22, 2010, 03:38:47 PM
sd i agree about the freshman and i think southwell with his enormous wingspan will be able to shut down the other teams best player...i think the real question is who wins between the lakers and the cats in a seven game series...
pg- fisher vs pullen- huge advantage cats
sg- kobe vs whoever we play here- kobe knee is still messed up so i say this is prolly a push
sf -artest vs southwell-their basically the same player but southwell can shoot better
pf-kelly vs gasol-this might be the only spot the lakers have an advantage
c-asprilla vs bynum-again bynum has a bum knee and asprilla has great touch around the basketball
bench-kstate is deeper and has more heart
and of course the ood will kill the staples center

so i think we win the series in 7 but just my opinion  :dunno:

the dumbest post i have EVER read. so an elite 8 college team could beat the 2 time repeat NBA champions?...LOL. Kobe with NO legs could drop 40 on our team without trying.

kobe = overrated and no defense whatsoever.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2010, 03:41:44 PM
Are our guys going to have to go to class like in their regular college schedule or are we assuming that they get to practice 24/7 and beef up on protein shakes and egg whites and orange juice all day long like NBA players?  Because, this could tip the scales in our favor a bit if we get a "level playing field". 
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 22, 2010, 03:52:21 PM
yeah. they don't even play defense in the nba. advantage=ksu. EMAW.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: Odd1 on October 22, 2010, 03:53:29 PM
Clearly the KSU Katz would go no worse that 12-12 vs the bottom half of the NBA.  We're talking about the BOTTOM half fuckfaces.  I'd put money that they'd win 60-70% of those games.  I think a better question is how well the Katz bball team would fare against the bottom half of the NFL in some American football contests.  I say they'd win a solid third of the games.  There is a clear disadvantage in the Katz players having to play both offense and defense... iron man football if you will.  KSU is really good at defense, though.  And Greenwald is really badass and stuff so I think they are conditioned for it.  I heard KSU got some big stud player from Florida State... Freddy Astrillo.  He is REALLY big, so I'm sure he'd be good at football.  Also, it helps to have a tall guy play quarterback, and we have a lot of those on the bball team.  If Denny Clemint was still on the team I'd say the Kats would win more like 50% of the games because he is really fast.  
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: mcmwcat on October 22, 2010, 03:53:48 PM
the question is moot.  our non con is decidedly more difficult than this imaginary competition which you have concocted.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: mcmwcat on October 22, 2010, 03:55:08 PM
yeah. they don't even play defense in the nba. advantage=ksu. EMAW.

yes.  this is why our non con could be considered the most difficult endeavor faced by any program in the history of college hoops  :frown:
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: EMAWzified on October 22, 2010, 04:04:48 PM
Let's see. Those teams of a roster filled with NBA players. K-State may have three, four tops. It would be ugly, kind of like the Cats playing a NAIA team. Get real.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: AlwaysEMAW on October 22, 2010, 04:05:04 PM
Hey guys, how do you think we would do against Michael Jordan and the Looney Toons? back when MJ was good, not now.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: chuckjames on October 22, 2010, 04:07:05 PM
i also think we have to consider will the professional jersey chaser types go after our high character young men...they are used to being such absolute gentlemen to the college girls how will the handle the distractions of professional jerser chasers??
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: The1BigWillie on October 22, 2010, 04:11:12 PM
Mods.   I think you know what to do.  We've exposed them. Take care of it.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: The Whale on October 22, 2010, 07:40:02 PM
Right now Frank and the kazzu qhatz have that #3 preseaon ranking and big XII pre-season champions rankings.  The target's on their backs, they're everybody's super bowl.  In this NBA hypo, the target's all on the NBA teams.  Khatz get to play in their favored underdog role.

Plus, you have to take into account the 6th foul that all of the players get.  Imagine Wally last year if he got to have 6 fouls per game -- that's like another 2 minutes of Wall-E dominance my friends. 

Yes, I think the Khatz would challenge for the mythical league title in this NBA hypothetical.  .600 winning percentage?  AT LEAST.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2010, 07:44:47 PM
Plus, you have to take into account the 6th foul that all of the players get.  Imagine Wally last year if he got to have 6 fouls per game -- that's like another 2 minutes of Wall-E dominance my friends. 

wow, great point by underrated poster The Whale here fellas
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: T42YS on October 22, 2010, 07:56:14 PM
Mods.   I think you know what to do.  We've exposed them. Take care of it.

<--------Totally in favor of more honeypot threads on this site. Especially on the football board.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: ksudrew on October 22, 2010, 08:00:10 PM
sd i agree about the freshman and i think southwell with his enormous wingspan will be able to shut down the other teams best player...i think the real question is who wins between the lakers and the cats in a seven game series...
pg- fisher vs pullen- huge advantage cats
sg- kobe vs whoever we play here- kobe knee is still messed up so i say this is prolly a push
sf -artest vs southwell-their basically the same player but southwell can shoot better
pf-kelly vs gasol-this might be the only spot the lakers have an advantage
c-asprilla vs bynum-again bynum has a bum knee and asprilla has great touch around the basketball
bench-kstate is deeper and has more heart
and of course the ood will kill the staples center

so i think we win the series in 7 but just my opinion  :dunno:

the dumbest post i have EVER read. so an elite 8 college team could beat the 2 time repeat NBA champions?...LOL. Kobe with NO legs could drop 40 on our team without trying.
lol pretty sure even krugs could guard/block "Kobe with no legs"
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: The Whale on October 22, 2010, 08:11:29 PM
sd i agree about the freshman and i think southwell with his enormous wingspan will be able to shut down the other teams best player...i think the real question is who wins between the lakers and the cats in a seven game series...
pg- fisher vs pullen- huge advantage cats
sg- kobe vs whoever we play here- kobe knee is still messed up so i say this is prolly a push
sf -artest vs southwell-their basically the same player but southwell can shoot better
pf-kelly vs gasol-this might be the only spot the lakers have an advantage
c-asprilla vs bynum-again bynum has a bum knee and asprilla has great touch around the basketball
bench-kstate is deeper and has more heart
and of course the ood will kill the staples center

so i think we win the series in 7 but just my opinion  :dunno:

the dumbest post i have EVER read. so an elite 8 college team could beat the 2 time repeat NBA champions?...LOL. Kobe with NO legs could drop 40 on our team without trying.
lol pretty sure even krugs could guard/block "Kobe with no legs"

Why even talk about the Lakers?  Qhatz win that game by default after Artest and co. are ejected from entering the stands to attack section 17ers.  If Artest can't handle a beer thown on him, how's he going to handle hot pennies and nickels being thrown at him all game long?

The Angriest Fans in America is a huge factor.  HUGE.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: wes mantooth on October 22, 2010, 10:00:29 PM
This thread needs to be hung from a noose on the front porch of this website to ward off all powertards.  I could read threads like this all day long.  ALL DAY LONG!
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2010, 10:27:05 PM
Has anyone even thought about the NBA players we are going to "face up against" not being qualified?  I mean, these guys could very well have never sat foot on a collegiate court because of their feakish dumbsness.  I think we could fight our way threw those players as the morbidly dumb seem to not make their way to the NBA via back channels as much as they used to.  But, you never know.  I'm just trying to clear up a lot of hypotheticals here, you know?
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: slimz on October 22, 2010, 11:10:00 PM
Great points here, guys, except for those deluded chumps who think we'd be lucky to win even a third of the games.

As anyone who's bothered to watch even 2.5 minutes of NBA basketballing would know, the NBA is an extremely INDIVIDUAL game. It's all clear out and let some prima donna like Kobe or LeBron take his guy to the hoop.

Well, it's not news to real K-State fans that these are the types of teams that Kazzu head coach Frank Martin feasts upon. He gets an extra spring in his step when he sees 'em on the schedule. 

EXAMPLE:  KU 2008.  Brandon Rush. Mario Chalmers. Darrell Arthur. Cole Aldrich. Other NBA stars. Came into Bramlage playing their flashy NBA-style individual games and left big, big losers to Frank Martin's inspired rag-tag group of team players like Darren Kent and Sweet Lou Colòn.

EXAMPLE:  Texas 2010.  Rick Barnes brought his team full of lottery picks into Bramlage and got run around the gym by Frank's TEAM FIRST team.

K-State plays a team game.  The NBA doesn't.  The NBA would be lucky to beat Frank once or twice in ten tries.

Just IMHO, guys. Just IMHO.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2010, 11:14:21 PM
Great points here, guys, except for those deluded chumps who think we'd be lucky to win even a third of the games.

As anyone who's bothered to watch even 2.5 minutes of NBA basketballing would know, the NBA is an extremely INDIVIDUAL game. It's all clear out and let some prima donna like Kobe or LeBron take his guy to the hoop.

Well, it's not news to real K-State fans that these are the types of teams that Kazzu head coach Frank Martin feasts upon. He gets an extra spring in his step when he sees 'em on the schedule. 

EXAMPLE:  KU 2008.  Brandon Rush. Mario Chalmers. Darrell Arthur. Cole Aldrich. Other NBA stars. Came into Bramlage playing their flashy NBA-style individual games and left big, big losers to Frank Martin's inspired rag-tag group of team players like Darren Kent and Sweet Lou Colòn.

EXAMPLE:  Texas 2010.  Rick Barnes brought his team full of lottery picks into Bramlage and got run around the gym by Frank's TEAM FIRST team.

K-State plays a team game.  The NBA doesn't.  The NBA would be lucky to beat Frank once or twice in ten tries.

Just IMHO, guys. Just IMHO.

wow, this is some HBBIQ stuff you can't find on other boards.  take notes chumps
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: chuckjames on October 22, 2010, 11:23:55 PM
it really is amazing that the national media hasn't picked up on this storyline yet...once we go undefeated through the toughest non con ever created in the history of the world they will have to start asking the question about how qhatz match up in the nba!!!!
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: jtksu on October 23, 2010, 12:13:38 AM
Reminds me of the good ol' days of the DoD.  Did you know our o-line would have been the second largest in the NFL at one point?  Our o-line got freaking NFC (or AFC, can't remember) championship rings without even playing a game!!!
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: AlwaysEMAW on October 23, 2010, 12:25:49 AM
Geez, you guys are right. The transition to playing NBA level talent is nothing like the transition from High School to College where you have to get used to how much faster and stronger everyone is than they were at the previous level.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: wildcats32 on October 23, 2010, 10:01:00 AM
you guys honestly cannot believe that ksu could beat a nba team.  the nba has the greatest athletes in the world, yet somehow you think jacob pullen could lead this team to victory? hahahahahaha
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: steve dave on October 23, 2010, 10:15:12 AM
you guys honestly cannot believe that ksu could beat a nba team.  the nba has the greatest athletes in the world, yet somehow you think jacob pullen could lead this team to victory? hahahahahaha

Not just Jake.  The rest of the team would also have to play their "A" game. 
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: Trim on October 23, 2010, 10:19:26 AM
you guys honestly cannot believe that ksu could beat a nba team.  the nba has the greatest athletes in the world, yet somehow you think jacob pullen could lead this team to victory? hahahahahaha

24 games, tard.  Sure, in a one-game winner-take-all situation, the NBA team might be able to use its athleticism to take the Katz out of their gameplan, but over the course of 24 KSU gets acclimated to the above-mentioned shifts in styles, refs, etc. and takes half.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: wildcats32 on October 23, 2010, 10:22:02 AM
KSU is going to really good this year but for people to say that whoever plays against kobe is a push is just absurd.  Kobe will go down as one of the top 5 players ever.  Yes the NBA is all about offense but if you watch the playoffs you will see that even the best defense can't stop nba players.  they are just too good.  No college basketball team could beat a NBA team even if they played 50 times.  Do you think that oregon could beat the lions in football?
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 23, 2010, 10:37:01 AM
Sorry, Kobe has simply never dealt with a player with Shane "wingspan" Southwell's length.  He would meltdown and go 6-24, start yelling at his teammates while Franks TEAM hugged and fist bumped.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: wildcats32 on October 23, 2010, 10:39:45 AM
yeah i guess so...its not like lebron has very long arms or anything
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: ChiComCat on October 23, 2010, 10:56:44 AM
I think our front court is getting ignored here and that is a shame.  Art said 'Spri could go pro.  Art doesn't just make crap like that up.  'Spri would shut down most NBA centers, and even the best ones would have a subpar night.  Also, Dwight Howard disappears in big games so I would really like Freddy in that match up.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 23, 2010, 10:59:52 AM
yeah i guess so...its not like lebron has very long arms or anything

Lebron is not a team first guy. 
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: wildcats32 on October 23, 2010, 11:04:01 AM
I never said anything about Lebron being a team first guy.  I said he had length.  As for your frontcourt yes it is very solid, but its not great yet.  Being great in college and great in the nba is two totally different things.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: jtksu on October 23, 2010, 11:26:28 AM
Dood, LeBron didn't even go to college.  Duh.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: wildcats32 on October 23, 2010, 11:29:58 AM
I was talking about the front players of ksu.  You know like kelly, aspirilla, and samuels.  they are good college players but couldnt compete against the worst nba frontcourt. 
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: jtksu on October 23, 2010, 11:31:34 AM
Didn't even play college!!
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: michigancat on October 23, 2010, 11:34:02 AM
Wow, looks like Clams and steve dave have been mixing some dumbass smoothies lately.  :lol:

We would not win a single game against any NBA team.  EVER.  Geez.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: sys on October 23, 2010, 11:38:01 AM
Wow, looks like Clams and steve dave have been mixing some dumbass smoothies lately.  :lol:

We would not win a single game against any NBA team.  EVER.  Geez.

a lot of people didn't think barcelona was better than the lakers either.  guess what?  smoked'em.  face it, nba'tards, a well coached team of winners will beat a team of gunners and "athletes" every time.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: wildcats32 on October 23, 2010, 11:40:43 AM
And just what has your team won? a conference championship? national championship? NIT championship?
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: jtksu on October 23, 2010, 11:45:28 AM
Excellent point Sys.  Why is it that the USA national team has fared so poorly lately?  Me-first attitudes, that's why.  It took a college coach to get them back on the right track.  KSU-100, NBA All-Stars- 91.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: treysolid on October 23, 2010, 11:51:28 AM
And just what has your team won? a conference championship? national championship? NIT championship?

all that and more.  don't you remember when michael beasley won a dunk contest against gilbert arenas when he was a 5th grader?
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: ChiComCat on October 23, 2010, 12:25:56 PM
I was talking about the front players of ksu.  You know like kelly, aspirilla, and samuels.  they are good college players but couldnt compete against the worst nba frontcourt. 

ART ALVAREZ DISAGREES
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: Joker on October 23, 2010, 12:32:02 PM
Do you think that oregon could beat the lions in football?

Remember in 2003 when the Oklahoma Sooners football team beat the Arizona Cardinals?

It's basically already happened before.  Stop being such a drama queen and acting so surprised at this scenario.  Do you think the Miracle on Ice was a real miracle?  No, it was junkyard cats vs. the nba.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: WildcatNation on October 23, 2010, 01:09:59 PM


Remember in 2003 when the Oklahoma Sooners football team beat the Arizona Cardinals?

It's basically already happened before.  Stop being such a drama queen and acting so surprised at this scenario.  Do you think the Miracle on Ice was a real miracle?  No, it was junkyard cats vs. the nba.
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Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: The Whale on October 23, 2010, 02:13:42 PM
Why all this talk about Kobe, LeBron, and Dwight Howard?  'ssClams says in the rough ridin' title "The bottom 3rd of the NBA"
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: steve dave on October 23, 2010, 02:14:50 PM
Why all this talk about Kobe, LeBron, and Dwight Howard?  'ssClams says in the rough ridin' title "The bottom 3rd of the NBA"

Great point here.  Let's leave the K-State vs. the Top 3rd of the NBA in the K-State vs. the Top 3rd of the NBA thread. 
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 23, 2010, 03:38:57 PM
I never said anything about Lebron being a team first guy.  I said he had length.  As for your frontcourt yes it is very solid, but its not great yet.  Being great in college and great in the nba is two totally different things.

Holy eff, great analysis here Dr. Jack.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 24, 2010, 09:04:33 AM
Bump.  The addition of D-pete ratchets up the win total by at least 2 "hustle" games.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: EMAWzified on October 24, 2010, 11:18:10 AM
I agree. I was like "get real, crackheads," but with this news gotta think we could take Philly, New York (if Walker's traded), New Jersey, New Orleans, Memphis for sure, aging Spurs, Seattle and any team in Canada.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: ChiComCat on October 24, 2010, 01:16:48 PM
Gotta figure we could take the Globetrotters too.  Pretty sure they arent in the NBA anymore but they are the best team in whatever league they are in.  They just couldnt match our intensity
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: kstatefreak42 on October 24, 2010, 01:21:46 PM
Gotta figure we could take the Globetrotters too.  Pretty sure they arent in the NBA anymore but they are the best team in whatever league they are in.  They just couldnt match our intensity
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Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: Benja on October 24, 2010, 01:35:34 PM
Why all this talk about Kobe, LeBron, and Dwight Howard?  'ssClams says in the rough ridin' title "The bottom 3rd of the NBA"

Great point here.  Let's leave the K-State vs. the Top 3rd of the NBA in the K-State vs. the Top 3rd of the NBA thread. 

Thank you. I was reading through this thread and I'm like are these guys really talking about us shutting down Kobe? I mean I bleed purple like the rest of you guys but these superstars like Kobe on the elite-tier NBA teams that have been in the same system for years and with mostly the same teammates are really gonna cause trouble for our Cats.

Taking my "purple shades" off for a moment, I'd say in a 10 game series against a team like the Lakers, we'd probably struggle to win two games, more likely only one. Honestly, I could even see us getting shut out. Now before you blast me just remember these are college kids, albeit many of them high-level NBA talents, but still kids going up against guys who play ball for a living.

I know we're all excited about the team this year but let's be careful to keep the discussion a little more levelheaded. Great thread idea though, definitely interesting stuff to think about.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 24, 2010, 02:03:17 PM
Why all this talk about Kobe, LeBron, and Dwight Howard?  'ssClams says in the effing title "The bottom 3rd of the NBA"

Great point here.  Let's leave the K-State vs. the Top 3rd of the NBA in the K-State vs. the Top 3rd of the NBA thread. 

Thank you. I was reading through this thread and I'm like are these guys really talking about us shutting down Kobe? I mean I bleed purple like the rest of you guys but these superstars like Kobe on the elite-tier NBA teams that have been in the same system for years and with mostly the same teammates are really gonna cause trouble for our Cats.

Taking my "purple shades" off for a moment, I'd say in a 10 game series against a team like the Lakers, we'd probably struggle to win two games, more likely only one. Honestly, I could even see us getting shut out. Now before you blast me just remember these are college kids, albeit many of them high-level NBA talents, but still kids going up against guys who play ball for a living.

I know we're all excited about the team this year but let's be careful to keep the discussion a little more levelheaded. Great thread idea though, definitely interesting stuff to think about.

The Condor would totally take kobe out of his game.  But there are other intangibles and I could see splitting with the Lakers.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: pissclams on November 23, 2010, 03:54:32 PM
after the impressive start that the Q@'s have gotten off too, i want to revise my earlier prediction.

i would now say that we would win half of the games we play against the bottom 40% of the NBA, upping the earlier prediction of the bottom 33%. 
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: jtksu on November 23, 2010, 04:05:06 PM
Pretty certain the Cats would take a 7 game series against the Heat.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 23, 2010, 04:42:31 PM
Kansas State would be lucky to take more than 1 off of the Heat you imbecile.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: kstater on November 23, 2010, 04:52:12 PM
Kansas State would be lucky to take more than 1 off of the Heat you imbecile.

Miami .571
KSU   1.000

I think it's clear they'd win at least 6/10 games.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: pissclams on November 23, 2010, 05:02:49 PM
Kansas State would be lucky to take more than 1 off of the Heat you imbecile.

Miami .571
KSU   1.000

I think it's clear they'd win at least 6/10 games.
thanks kstater, seems like ging has bad maths.  definitely could never play for head coach frank martin.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 23, 2010, 05:10:21 PM
I guess I'm just more of a realist. This team takes a max. of 3 out of 7 from the Heat. Shove your maths up your asses.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: jtksu on November 23, 2010, 05:15:06 PM
The Cats have incredible depth.  Last night our bench scored almost as many pts as our starters.  Last night, the Heat's bench scored 4 pts.  Game, set, match, KSU Cats.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: pissclams on November 23, 2010, 05:16:25 PM
I guess I'm just more of a realist. This team takes a max. of 3 out of 7 from the Heat. Shove your maths up your asses.

want to talk about being realism?  lets talk 3D.  yup, you guest it.  it's based upon maths.
Title: Re: K-State vs. The bottom 3rd of the NBA
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 23, 2010, 05:22:29 PM
3D technology is, similarly to math, a bunch of crap.