Post by: cfbandyman on November 18, 2022, 12:33:07 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2022/nov/18/world-cup-2022-countdown-to-kick-off-continues-as-qatar-plans-beer-u-turn-live
I am excited though, hard not to be, even if Qatar should never have gotten it
Post by: MakeItRain on November 18, 2022, 01:20:52 PM
I'm planning on taking in the Black Friday match in at the P&L
Post by: Phil Titola on November 18, 2022, 01:37:33 PM
This is going to be a beautiful disaster, FIFA deserves it too
I'm planning on taking in the Black Friday match in at the P&L
Get tickets. They are free but yo have to have them. Doesn't even guarantee entry. I assume it's to help count heads for fire marshal.
See you there!
Post by: michigancat on November 18, 2022, 08:52:13 PM
Post by: Spracne on November 18, 2022, 09:03:07 PM
Banning beer this late is hilariously wild
Makes you think this was the plan all along. Wait until it's too late to turn back.
Post by: mocat on November 18, 2022, 09:04:27 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 18, 2022, 09:35:04 PM
Post by: Tobias on November 18, 2022, 10:00:22 PM
Post by: Spracne on November 18, 2022, 10:01:56 PM
Post by: michigancat on November 19, 2022, 06:19:34 AM
Oh 100%. I'm sure they budgeted it all inBanning beer this late is hilariously wild
Makes you think this was the plan all along. Wait until it's too late to turn back.
Post by: Kat Kid on November 19, 2022, 08:57:50 AM
Lmao
Post by: michigancat on November 19, 2022, 09:53:26 AM
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1593964754569203712?s=46&t=r9Q2TG8DJcmWmcGkh_rhjgLMAO wow
Lmao
Post by: Spracne on November 19, 2022, 11:38:24 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on November 19, 2022, 01:14:32 PM
“Today I feel gay”
Then smash cut to
“Why are you gay?”
Post by: cfbandyman on November 19, 2022, 01:18:42 PM
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1593964754569203712?s=46&t=r9Q2TG8DJcmWmcGkh_rhjgLMAO wow
Lmao
holy crap lol
Post by: cfbandyman on November 20, 2022, 10:22:15 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 20, 2022, 10:35:59 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on November 20, 2022, 10:37:01 AM
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: michigancat on November 20, 2022, 12:08:56 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on November 20, 2022, 12:26:30 PM
It blows my mind that you can have three hours of broadcast and talk a ton about Qatar and not remind people that it's illegal to be gay there like constantlyFox doesn’t want to appear to be “woke” and anger all the people who don’t watch the World Cup.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: MakeItRain on November 20, 2022, 12:48:14 PM
It blows my mind that you can have three hours of broadcast and talk a ton about Qatar and not remind people that it's illegal to be gay there like constantly
For the studio guys, yes, for the guys calling the game no. If the announcers of a K-State or KU game started taking about the abortion ballot initiative as a means to show Kansas trending progressive on a women's rights issue, it would be weird a.f. and rightfully panned.
Those players and coaches have nothing to do with what's happening in that country, call the game let others frame what is happening outside the stadium. What Strong and Holden did fail at was explaining why Qatar has so many players who don't have Qatari lineage or aren't from there. These same two guys explained this during the Gold Cup, more than once. It's pretty clear Fox told them not to discuss that either.
Post by: michigancat on November 20, 2022, 02:10:34 PM
It blows my mind that you can have three hours of broadcast and talk a ton about Qatar and not remind people that it's illegal to be gay there like constantly
For the studio guys, yes, for the guys calling the game no. If the announcers of a K-State or KU game started taking about the abortion ballot initiative as a means to show Kansas trending progressive on a women's rights issue, it would be weird a.f. and rightfully panned.
Those players and coaches have nothing to do with what's happening in that country, call the game let others frame what is happening outside the stadium. What Strong and Holden did fail at was explaining why Qatar has so many players who don't have Qatari lineage or aren't from there. These same two guys explained this during the Gold Cup, more than once. It's pretty clear Fox told them not to discuss that either.
The PBP guys commented a lot on the atmosphere among fans on the street and I don't know how you can do this without acknowledging how rough ridin' weird and evil the place is. In Kansas, that wasn't really an elephant in the room at tailgate parties like the late beer decision or disgusting moral laws are in Qatar. If the pbp guys didn't have the little anecdotes about fan interaction, I'd probably agree with you.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 20, 2022, 02:29:00 PM
It blows my mind that you can have three hours of broadcast and talk a ton about Qatar and not remind people that it's illegal to be gay there like constantly
For the studio guys, yes, for the guys calling the game no. If the announcers of a K-State or KU game started taking about the abortion ballot initiative as a means to show Kansas trending progressive on a women's rights issue, it would be weird a.f. and rightfully panned.
Those players and coaches have nothing to do with what's happening in that country, call the game let others frame what is happening outside the stadium. What Strong and Holden did fail at was explaining why Qatar has so many players who don't have Qatari lineage or aren't from there. These same two guys explained this during the Gold Cup, more than once. It's pretty clear Fox told them not to discuss that either.
The PBP guys commented a lot on the atmosphere among fans on the street and I don't know how you can do this without acknowledging how rough ridin' weird and evil the place is. In Kansas, that wasn't really an elephant in the room at tailgate parties like the late beer decision or disgusting moral laws are in Qatar. If the pbp guys didn't have the little anecdotes about fan interaction, I'd probably agree with you.
That's just it rusty, I don't think those issues are a big deal there, at all, they are everywhere else though. The human rights issues aren't roundly viewed that way there, I'd see your point on that if fans, players, and media had to make their way through protests in the streets to get to the games. The people of Qatar seem to be comfortably living their lives, including being good with the thousands of deaths the last decade, preparing for the world cup.
Post by: michigancat on November 20, 2022, 04:12:23 PM
It blows my mind that you can have three hours of broadcast and talk a ton about Qatar and not remind people that it's illegal to be gay there like constantly
For the studio guys, yes, for the guys calling the game no. If the announcers of a K-State or KU game started taking about the abortion ballot initiative as a means to show Kansas trending progressive on a women's rights issue, it would be weird a.f. and rightfully panned.
Those players and coaches have nothing to do with what's happening in that country, call the game let others frame what is happening outside the stadium. What Strong and Holden did fail at was explaining why Qatar has so many players who don't have Qatari lineage or aren't from there. These same two guys explained this during the Gold Cup, more than once. It's pretty clear Fox told them not to discuss that either.
The PBP guys commented a lot on the atmosphere among fans on the street and I don't know how you can do this without acknowledging how rough ridin' weird and evil the place is. In Kansas, that wasn't really an elephant in the room at tailgate parties like the late beer decision or disgusting moral laws are in Qatar. If the pbp guys didn't have the little anecdotes about fan interaction, I'd probably agree with you.
That's just it rusty, I don't think those issues are a big deal there, at all, they are everywhere else though. The human rights issues aren't roundly viewed that way there, I'd see your point on that if fans, players, and media had to make their way through protests in the streets to get to the games. The people of Qatar seem to be comfortably living their lives, including being good with the thousands of deaths the last decade, preparing for the world cup.
Yeah except it's the World Cup and I think the issues are a huge deal for most people that came in from places in the world other than Qatar (and Iran maybe).
Post by: Kat Kid on November 20, 2022, 05:07:45 PM
As for Johnny Baby (Gianni Infantino) he can get both hands even though he isn’t the guy to blame for making the initial decision to go to Qatar.
As far as the announcers, of course they aren’t going to be talking about it! They are literally paid to make the whole thing a commercial! Even most of the journalists covering it will only be able to make a few events a circus before it is either tamped down or worse.
Of course the whole thing is a farce but expecting the system to have enough internal complexity to critique itself is to forget the fundamental problem that leads to the others.
Post by: Kat Kid on November 20, 2022, 05:09:43 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 20, 2022, 05:21:44 PM
Post by: michigancat on November 20, 2022, 05:48:03 PM
Homosexuality is illegal in more than just Qatar. I think it is certainly different because they are hosting and the process that went in to it, but I don’t think grilling the players about their country’s politics is a good look. Most players politics suck crap! So just play, the coaches and the players mostly don’t have anything interesting to say about it even in the best of times.
As for Johnny Baby (Gianni Infantino) he can get both hands even though he isn’t the guy to blame for making the initial decision to go to Qatar.
As far as the announcers, of course they aren’t going to be talking about it! They are literally paid to make the whole thing a commercial! Even most of the journalists covering it will only be able to make a few events a circus before it is either tamped down or worse.
Of course the whole thing is a farce but expecting the system to have enough internal complexity to critique itself is to forget the fundamental problem that leads to the others.
I hear all that but there were other World Cup broadcasts at least acknowledged some of the...unique circumstances
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1594355016063516672?s=20&t=dhWmVuJPjX77P8O430cTJQ
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1594365031654662144
And last thing on the play-by-play guys, there was a moment when they were talking about how interesting and rare it was to have Qataris and Ecuadorians and it was part of what made the World Cup so unique and it seemed like an in to say "hey this place and atmosphere is kinda weird".
Post by: MakeItRain on November 20, 2022, 10:35:38 PM
\Homosexuality is illegal in more than just Qatar. I think it is certainly different because they are hosting and the process that went in to it, but I don’t think grilling the players about their country’s politics is a good look. Most players politics suck crap! So just play, the coaches and the players mostly don’t have anything interesting to say about it even in the best of times.
As for Johnny Baby (Gianni Infantino) he can get both hands even though he isn’t the guy to blame for making the initial decision to go to Qatar.
As far as the announcers, of course they aren’t going to be talking about it! They are literally paid to make the whole thing a commercial! Even most of the journalists covering it will only be able to make a few events a circus before it is either tamped down or worse.
Of course the whole thing is a farce but expecting the system to have enough internal complexity to critique itself is to forget the fundamental problem that leads to the others.
I hear all that but there were other World Cup broadcasts at least acknowledged some of the...unique circumstances
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1594355016063516672?s=20&t=dhWmVuJPjX77P8O430cTJQ
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1594365031654662144
And last thing on the play-by-play guys, there was a moment when they were talking about how interesting and rare it was to have Qataris and Ecuadorians and it was part of what made the World Cup so unique and it seemed like an in to say "hey this place and atmosphere is kinda weird".
I think we all agree that Fox shouldn't have ignored what happening there. It's noteworthy that your two video examples are not from people calling the game, I'm pretty sure the Telemundo guy isn't even in Qatar.
Post by: Spaces on November 21, 2022, 10:23:23 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 21, 2022, 10:46:53 AM
Post by: Spaces on November 21, 2022, 10:53:38 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on November 21, 2022, 11:00:40 AM
I didn't watch the England match this morning, how in the eff was there a combined 24 minutes of stoppage time?
The broadcast said they are really going for it with "by the book" stoppage time getting added.
Post by: Phil Titola on November 21, 2022, 11:01:14 AM
I didn't watch the England match this morning, how in the eff was there a combined 24 minutes of stoppage time?
Got up at one point, changed uniform to get rid of the blood, teammate threw water on his face, they were about to resume and he went back down. Dude tried to make a go of it.
Post by: GregKSU1027 on November 21, 2022, 11:03:36 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 21, 2022, 11:42:35 AM
Post by: wetwillie on November 21, 2022, 12:09:53 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 21, 2022, 12:10:38 PM
Low England verbiage IQ alert. Do they all call us "the states"?
Yes, Canada does the same as well
Post by: bucket on November 21, 2022, 01:09:12 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 21, 2022, 01:22:30 PM
Low England verbiage IQ alert. Do they all call us "the states"?
The colonies
Post by: CHONGS on November 21, 2022, 01:27:21 PM
Post by: michigancat on November 21, 2022, 01:35:26 PM
Not looking so great so far.
I don't know, they seem pretty dominant
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 21, 2022, 01:37:43 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 21, 2022, 01:37:56 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 21, 2022, 01:38:25 PM
Yeah I was being stupid about us missing good chances.Not looking so great so far.
I don't know, they seem pretty dominant
Post by: cfbandyman on November 21, 2022, 01:39:42 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on November 21, 2022, 01:51:37 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on November 21, 2022, 02:39:20 PM
Post by: Spracne on November 21, 2022, 02:43:53 PM
Post by: Fedor on November 21, 2022, 02:44:31 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on November 21, 2022, 02:45:05 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 21, 2022, 02:45:18 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 21, 2022, 03:02:49 PM
Might be short trip
lol, relax. betaandyman
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 21, 2022, 03:03:02 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 21, 2022, 03:05:07 PM
The refereeing was shambolic but it ultimately didn't matter.
Pulisic got the assist but his set pieces were a total disaster.
Post by: kim carnes on November 21, 2022, 03:08:01 PM
This sport is awful. Painful to watch in so many ways.
It truly is, I feel like I was robbed of two hours of my life.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 21, 2022, 03:09:42 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on November 21, 2022, 03:19:48 PM
Need to adopt the college basketball flop rule.
LOL. If you think there was a lot of flopping in that game wait until you watch Mexico or South American teams.
Post by: cfbandyman on November 21, 2022, 03:23:29 PM
Need to adopt the college basketball flop rule.
LOL. If you think there was a lot of flopping in that game wait until you watch Mexico or South American teams.
Exactly
Post by: Fedor on November 21, 2022, 03:36:21 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 21, 2022, 04:27:58 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 21, 2022, 04:45:15 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 21, 2022, 06:15:26 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 21, 2022, 06:18:10 PM
Let’s just beat England and Iran and win the groupI second this. Why not us?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 21, 2022, 08:45:49 PM
https://twitter.com/ryan_theisen/status/1594804604260196384
Post by: Kat Kid on November 21, 2022, 10:07:52 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 22, 2022, 12:43:07 AM
Post by: Spaces on November 22, 2022, 08:46:27 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on November 22, 2022, 09:01:09 AM
nah, need a result against England though. We should be fine with a win and a draw. Goal differential between Wales and the USA against Iran might be worth watching.
we aren't getting a result against england and then we are going to be confronted with needing to score a bunch against iran and england being ambivalent about winning against wales.
Post by: ChiComCat on November 22, 2022, 09:40:54 AM
Post by: mocat on November 22, 2022, 09:47:40 AM
Post by: kim carnes on November 22, 2022, 10:49:47 AM
nah, need a result against England though. We should be fine with a win and a draw. Goal differential between Wales and the USA against Iran might be worth watching.
we aren't getting a result against england and then we are going to be confronted with needing to score a bunch against iran and england being ambivalent about winning against wales.
Not to mention england and wales are a part of the same damn country lmao
Post by: mocat on November 22, 2022, 11:57:09 AM
Post by: Spaces on November 22, 2022, 12:03:50 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 22, 2022, 12:52:37 PM
nah, need a result against England though. We should be fine with a win and a draw. Goal differential between Wales and the USA against Iran might be worth watching.
we aren't getting a result against england and then we are going to be confronted with needing to score a bunch against iran and england being ambivalent about winning against wales.
That's why I am where I'm at. A win makes us moving on while not a for sure thing but a highly likely thing, a draw basically mean we have to draw at least England and beat Iran by potentially some goals. I just don't like that
Post by: cfbandyman on November 22, 2022, 12:53:05 PM
Argentina :sdeek:
Was legit shocking to see that result this morning
Post by: michigancat on November 22, 2022, 12:55:41 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 22, 2022, 06:37:43 PM
nah, need a result against England though. We should be fine with a win and a draw. Goal differential between Wales and the USA against Iran might be worth watching.
we aren't getting a result against england and then we are going to be confronted with needing to score a bunch against iran and england being ambivalent about winning against wales.
You think England is going to be ambivalent about beating Wales? Ain't no way, man.
I don't understand y'all being sore about a draw against Wales if you think they are good enough to get a result against England but we aren't. Doesn't that indicate they are better than us and a draw was a positive result?
That's why I am where I'm at. A win makes us moving on while not a for sure thing but a highly likely thing, a draw basically mean we have to draw at least England and beat Iran by potentially some goals. I just don't like that
Wales are in the exact same spot tho but they don't play with the ball and rarely score more than one goal.
Post by: Institutional Control on November 23, 2022, 08:46:46 AM
Post by: michigancat on November 23, 2022, 08:49:03 AM
why when the ball goes out of bounds do both teams just raise their hands? At least in American sports you point in the direction you think the ball should go
Post by: Institutional Control on November 23, 2022, 08:54:00 AM
Post by: michigancat on November 23, 2022, 08:56:09 AM
I think the players are trying to point toward their direction.
this is what made me think of it
(https://i.imgur.com/73H6aC3.png)
Post by: Institutional Control on November 23, 2022, 08:56:28 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on November 23, 2022, 08:58:28 AM
I think the players are trying to point toward their direction.
this is what made me think of it
I'm not sure. Two of those German players may be calling for a foul or handball or just confused about which direction they're going.
Post by: mocat on November 23, 2022, 09:00:09 AM
Post by: mocat on November 23, 2022, 09:00:45 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on November 23, 2022, 09:01:24 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on November 23, 2022, 09:02:08 AM
Post by: michigancat on November 23, 2022, 09:02:39 AM
I think the players are trying to point toward their direction.
this is what made me think of it
I'm not sure. Two of those German players may be calling for a foul or handball or just confused about which direction they're going.
yes the players always seem confused about which direction they're going
Post by: Institutional Control on November 23, 2022, 09:02:51 AM
this is not nearly as big of an upset as saudi over argentina but japan over germany is pretty big
I kind of felt Argentina was a little over-rated going into the WC but yeah it was much bigger of an upset.
Post by: michigancat on November 23, 2022, 09:03:41 AM
Also, in that situation, one side could be pointing to the corner for a corner kick and the other side could point to the goal for a goal kick, although I don't think that's what's happening there.
I suppose Japan could have been calling for offside too
Post by: Institutional Control on November 23, 2022, 09:04:21 AM
Post by: mocat on November 23, 2022, 09:06:00 AM
this is not nearly as big of an upset as saudi over argentina but japan over germany is pretty big
I kind of felt Argentina was a little over-rated going into the WC but yeah it was much bigger of an upset.
they always are, but japan is a real team and saudi arabia is not. and this german squad is a complete unknown
Post by: Institutional Control on November 23, 2022, 09:21:38 AM
Post by: mocat on November 23, 2022, 09:28:27 AM
I have a real dilemma as to whether to watch this next match with or without sound. I love Ian Darke but I can't stand Landon Donovan.Same. LD's voice gives me the skin crawlies, can't explain it
Post by: mocat on November 23, 2022, 10:02:07 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 23, 2022, 10:07:47 AM
Probably just throw their hands up to say it should be their ball and don't bother to figure out a direction.
yeah I've always taken it "whenever goes our way" hand raise so see why those watching less soccer would be confused.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 23, 2022, 11:16:42 AM
dumb guy soccer question:
why when the ball goes out of bounds do both teams just raise their hands? At least in American sports you point in the direction you think the ball should go
They're raising their hand to mimick the assistant referee raising his/her flag. It's also what an AR would do if there were no flags. Players will do this to call for the ball to be called out, asking for offside, or for a foul call.
This was actually a point of contention in our game. On the play that Bale drew the foul in the box, it appeared the ball went out of bounds right before. Robinson "Jedi" raised his hand, wanting the ball to be called out, it wasn't, then Zimmerman went Pat Bev on Bale
Post by: mocat on November 23, 2022, 01:58:34 PM
:tsc:
Post by: cfbandyman on November 23, 2022, 02:33:29 PM
great half from canada but they are down 1-0
:tsc:
They can suck it
Post by: Kat Kid on November 23, 2022, 02:41:26 PM
If we lose, then England being guaranteed top spot regardless of result is very different from their 1st or second game. I think we are better than wales and we outplayed them which is why I am pissed about the draw.nah, need a result against England though. We should be fine with a win and a draw. Goal differential between Wales and the USA against Iran might be worth watching.
we aren't getting a result against england and then we are going to be confronted with needing to score a bunch against iran and england being ambivalent about winning against wales.
You think England is going to be ambivalent about beating Wales? Ain't no way, man.
I don't understand y'all being sore about a draw against Wales if you think they are good enough to get a result against England but we aren't. Doesn't that indicate they are better than us and a draw was a positive result?That's why I am where I'm at. A win makes us moving on while not a for sure thing but a highly likely thing, a draw basically mean we have to draw at least England and beat Iran by potentially some goals. I just don't like that
Wales are in the exact same spot tho but they don't play with the ball and rarely score more than one goal.
We still control our destiny but in a much worse spot and just assuming that England will destroy wales while we may be on 1 point needing a big win to go through. Even if wales draw with Iran we are in a gross spot.
Post by: Trim on November 23, 2022, 03:53:11 PM
Post by: 8manpick on November 23, 2022, 04:59:47 PM
Wow. It seemed like Germany dominated 90% of the game. Hard to win in the WC by scoring just 1 goal though.So far 1 goal would be enough to win 7/12 games!
Post by: 8manpick on November 24, 2022, 08:54:49 AM
9/14Wow. It seemed like Germany dominated 90% of the game. Hard to win in the WC by scoring just 1 goal though.So far 1 goal would be enough to win 7/12 games!
Post by: MakeItRain on November 24, 2022, 11:34:11 AM
Post by: 8manpick on November 24, 2022, 11:39:17 AM
Post by: michigancat on November 24, 2022, 11:40:51 AM
Rusty!!! Ayew!!! :excited: :excited: :excited: eff PortugalIt was a great minute and a half
Post by: mocat on November 24, 2022, 01:42:48 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on November 24, 2022, 02:12:07 PM
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: Institutional Control on November 25, 2022, 05:59:53 AM
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: michigancat on November 25, 2022, 06:00:09 AM
Post by: mocat on November 25, 2022, 06:04:14 AM
Post by: mocat on November 25, 2022, 06:04:57 AM
Post by: wetwillie on November 25, 2022, 06:10:08 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on November 25, 2022, 06:18:48 AM
If we lose to England we need to keep it within 2 and then beat Iran. Two draws should get us through too. Unless Wales beats England by 2 goals.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: michigancat on November 25, 2022, 06:30:04 AM
Yeah, I didn’t mind Iran winning but I sure didn’t want that second goal.How does the second goal hurt us? Doesn't it make it harder for Wales while Iran still has a negative differential?
If we lose to England we need to keep it within 2 and then beat Iran. Two draws should get us through too. Unless Wales beats England by 2 goals.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: mocat on November 25, 2022, 06:38:09 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on November 25, 2022, 07:36:52 AM
If we lose to England we’ll need to have a better goal differential than Iran.Yeah, I didn’t mind Iran winning but I sure didn’t want that second goal.How does the second goal hurt us? Doesn't it make it harder for Wales while Iran still has a negative differential?
If we lose to England we need to keep it within 2 and then beat Iran. Two draws should get us through too. Unless Wales beats England by 2 goals.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: MakeItRain on November 25, 2022, 07:44:09 AM
If we win against Iran can we still get mumped out of moving on if England beats our ass too bad?
Four rough ridin' goals, man? This is some big beta energy. It's been 70 matches since we lost a match by four goals and 46 since we lost one by 3. We may not win, but we're not getting blown out.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 25, 2022, 07:45:56 AM
If we lose to England we’ll need to have a better goal differential than Iran.Yeah, I didn’t mind Iran winning but I sure didn’t want that second goal.How does the second goal hurt us? Doesn't it make it harder for Wales while Iran still has a negative differential?
If we lose to England we need to keep it within 2 and then beat Iran. Two draws should get us through too. Unless Wales beats England by 2 goals.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
In this scenario, they're already -2 and we'll have to beat them for this to matter. You can't possibly think we're going to lose to England by 4 goals.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 25, 2022, 07:46:24 AM
Post by: michigancat on November 25, 2022, 07:53:28 AM
If we lose to England we’ll need to have a better goal differential than Iran.Yeah, I didn’t mind Iran winning but I sure didn’t want that second goal.How does the second goal hurt us? Doesn't it make it harder for Wales while Iran still has a negative differential?
If we lose to England we need to keep it within 2 and then beat Iran. Two draws should get us through too. Unless Wales beats England by 2 goals.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
If we lose to England we need to win against Iran no matter what. And the win would be enough regardless of differential
Post by: MakeItRain on November 25, 2022, 08:03:40 AM
https://twitter.com/FOXSoccer/status/1596135799606890496
https://twitter.com/nine9_6/status/1595834730754154496
Post by: michigancat on November 25, 2022, 08:05:58 AM
Post by: wetwillie on November 25, 2022, 08:09:58 AM
If we win against Iran can we still get mumped out of moving on if England beats our ass too bad?
Four rough ridin' goals, man? This is some big beta energy. It's been 70 matches since we lost a match by four goals and 46 since we lost one by 3. We may not win, but we're not getting blown out.
I’m an Arsenal fan, I still count on my fingers. I figured beating Iran in any fashion would get us there but assumed some kind of lopsided result might eff us. No way England beats us 4-0.
Post by: Phil Titola on November 25, 2022, 08:15:45 AM
Anyone going down to the PNL today?
I am.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 25, 2022, 08:26:01 AM
Anyone going down to the PNL today?
I am.
I've never been to a USMNT watch party, I'm excited, but I don't want beer thrown on my white jacket
Post by: mocat on November 25, 2022, 08:46:18 AM
Post by: pissclams on November 25, 2022, 09:15:23 AM
why do this to yourself, make it rain??
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 25, 2022, 10:41:12 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 25, 2022, 10:47:14 AM
Post by: michigancat on November 25, 2022, 11:55:48 AM
Post by: mocat on November 25, 2022, 12:05:33 PM
Got a late start from Ames, not arriving until noon, hopefully I can get in :ohno:Plenty of nearby backup options if you don't make it in. Strange days in river market is a soccer bar, I also saw recordbar is having a watch party on a projector screen
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 25, 2022, 12:39:17 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 25, 2022, 12:55:53 PM
Post by: Tobias on November 25, 2022, 01:00:39 PM
Post by: Spracne on November 25, 2022, 01:50:31 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221125/5d106aea298a13052cc30e92db8578b8.webp)
Who is this lesbian?
Post by: mocat on November 25, 2022, 01:55:46 PM
I defy you to find a more punchable face than Harry Kane
He is like not even 75th percentile punchable
Post by: wetwillie on November 25, 2022, 02:01:31 PM
Post by: Spracne on November 25, 2022, 02:08:19 PM
Post by: mocat on November 25, 2022, 02:56:26 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 25, 2022, 03:08:10 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 25, 2022, 03:17:43 PM
Post by: sys on November 25, 2022, 03:19:45 PM
Post by: Tobias on November 25, 2022, 03:20:42 PM
Post by: sys on November 25, 2022, 03:21:47 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 25, 2022, 03:26:29 PM
I put $10 on the match today so we need to win so I can pay rentWELP
Post by: wetwillie on November 25, 2022, 03:35:49 PM
Fairly happy with the tie, we had a ton of chances, and looked faster and more engaged than england
Big fan of this team, finally have a side that can legit compete with most upper tier teams.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 25, 2022, 03:54:02 PM
Post by: nicname on November 25, 2022, 04:15:49 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221125/5d106aea298a13052cc30e92db8578b8.webp)
Who is this lesbian?
Whigga hair
Post by: dal9 on November 25, 2022, 04:38:25 PM
haven't watched either Iran game, hard to know what to expect based on their results.
Post by: dal9 on November 25, 2022, 04:39:15 PM
Post by: mocat on November 25, 2022, 05:42:02 PM
well that sucks.
If you would have told me before the tournament that the US would advance to the knockout round with a win against Iran I would have taken it 13 times out of 10 and twice on Sunday. If you can't beat Iran wtf are we even talking about
Post by: cfbandyman on November 25, 2022, 06:07:20 PM
I defy you to find a more punchable face than Harry Kane
He is like not even 75th percentile punchable
Correct, Kane is not a super punchable face
Post by: nicname on November 25, 2022, 06:10:51 PM
I defy you to find a more punchable face than Harry Kane
He is like not even 75th percentile punchable
Correct, Kane is not a super punchable face
Instant google pic reaction. Nobody who was ever cool and fun to hang out with ever looked like that guy.
Verdict: extremely punchable
Post by: Kat Kid on November 25, 2022, 07:01:38 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on November 25, 2022, 11:13:59 PM
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 25, 2022, 11:15:26 PM
well that sucks.
If you would have told me before the tournament that the US would advance to the knockout round with a win against Iran I would have taken it 13 times out of 10 and twice on Sunday. If you can't beat Iran wtf are we even talking about
They can’t even beat wales, which is like England’s Arizona
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 25, 2022, 11:29:24 PM
Post by: Spaces on November 26, 2022, 12:34:23 AM
Post by: sys on November 26, 2022, 03:41:18 AM
well that sucks.
If you would have told me before the tournament that the US would advance to the knockout round with a win against Iran I would have taken it 13 times out of 10 and twice on Sunday. If you can't beat Iran wtf are we even talking about
well, we've never won a game and have always tied every game, so i dunno, just feel like it'd be better if we'd get a positive outcome if we tied (again).
Post by: michigancat on November 26, 2022, 05:40:08 AM
Post by: mocat on November 26, 2022, 07:06:13 AM
https://twitter.com/alaa_saeed88/status/1596456361616809984?s=20&t=x_SpNaC4rbeznCDEN76GHg
Post by: mocat on November 26, 2022, 07:10:35 AM
well that sucks.
If you would have told me before the tournament that the US would advance to the knockout round with a win against Iran I would have taken it 13 times out of 10 and twice on Sunday. If you can't beat Iran wtf are we even talking about
well, we've never won a game and have always tied every game, so i dunno, just feel like it'd be better if we'd get a positive outcome if we tied (again).
looks like vegas is asleep at the wheel here
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221126/4e9463a200cc662db006d7961f088661.jpg)
Post by: pissclams on November 27, 2022, 10:46:55 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2022, 03:07:52 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 28, 2022, 09:56:52 AM
Post by: mocat on November 29, 2022, 09:51:12 AM
Post by: mocat on November 29, 2022, 11:01:17 AM
there is nothing more fun than AFCON teams/fans
tough break for ecuador though, defeated the host country and drew with Netherlands and didn't make it through
Post by: mocat on November 29, 2022, 12:56:52 PM
Post by: kim carnes on November 29, 2022, 01:36:08 PM
Post by: kim carnes on November 29, 2022, 01:40:33 PM
Post by: mocat on November 29, 2022, 01:56:41 PM
Post by: sys on November 29, 2022, 02:00:25 PM
Post by: mocat on November 29, 2022, 02:03:54 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 29, 2022, 02:06:49 PM
Post by: mocat on November 29, 2022, 02:07:39 PM
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 29, 2022, 02:22:40 PM
Post by: sys on November 29, 2022, 02:23:17 PM
Post by: sys on November 29, 2022, 02:29:11 PM
Post by: kim carnes on November 29, 2022, 02:54:08 PM
we're too passive, imo. too much time left to play the prevent.
I guess that’s what you do when you don’t have any faith in your ability to score a second goal
Post by: sys on November 29, 2022, 03:01:31 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 29, 2022, 03:03:33 PM
Post by: sys on November 29, 2022, 03:05:11 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on November 29, 2022, 03:07:33 PM
Post by: kim carnes on November 29, 2022, 03:08:47 PM
Post by: mocat on November 29, 2022, 03:13:42 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 29, 2022, 03:15:12 PM
Post by: mocat on November 29, 2022, 03:19:40 PM
Post by: sys on November 29, 2022, 03:38:18 PM
Post by: mocat on November 29, 2022, 03:41:33 PM
wait a second, one of our players is the son of a rough ridin' president of another country?
absolutely, and wait until you find out who the capital of that country is named for
Post by: sys on November 29, 2022, 03:46:19 PM
Post by: sys on November 29, 2022, 03:47:04 PM
Post by: Trim on November 29, 2022, 03:56:55 PM
if, like, hunter biden was good at anything besides mainlining cocaine and rough ridin' bitches i'd consider it a little outrageous if he chose to represent ireland instead of the us.
:lol:
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 29, 2022, 04:00:26 PM
Post by: mocat on November 29, 2022, 04:02:06 PM
Post by: Fedor on November 29, 2022, 04:13:58 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 29, 2022, 06:32:58 PM
Post by: mocat on November 29, 2022, 07:09:36 PM
Someone is going to have to futbol-splain why Iran didn’t get a penalty kick when our guy pulled him down from behind on his shoulders at the endThe defender placed his hand on the shoulder and the attacking player went down, wasn't dragged down. In the eyes of the referee the attacking player went down too easily, and it was the correct call. Not controversial
Post by: MakeItRain on November 29, 2022, 07:51:31 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 29, 2022, 08:23:11 PM
Someone is going to have to futbol-splain why Iran didn’t get a penalty kick when our guy pulled him down from behind on his shoulders at the endThe defender placed his hand on the shoulder and the attacking player went down, wasn't dragged down. In the eyes of the referee the attacking player went down too easily, and it was the correct call. Not controversial
Thanks.
Post by: cfbandyman on November 29, 2022, 08:55:57 PM
Post by: Cire on November 29, 2022, 09:22:50 PM
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: pissclams on November 29, 2022, 10:24:31 PM
Can’t see how we possibly score. Hope for a pk I guessi know a shitload about soccer, we’re going to win (easily)
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: mocat on November 29, 2022, 10:58:46 PM
so we drew with the #5 and #19 ranked squads in the world and defeated #20 when it counted. #8 coming up next, right before the dr. pepperFYI this was the hardest group by average ranking, and every other group had a scrub ranked worse than 30
Post by: mocat on November 30, 2022, 11:38:41 AM
Post by: mocat on November 30, 2022, 01:40:38 PM
Post by: sys on November 30, 2022, 01:55:39 PM
Post by: sys on November 30, 2022, 02:20:23 PM
Post by: mocat on November 30, 2022, 02:27:53 PM
1. GD
2. GF
?
Post by: mocat on November 30, 2022, 02:29:10 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on November 30, 2022, 02:29:53 PM
what is the tiebreaker after
1. GD
2. GF
?
I think least bookings
Post by: ChiComCat on November 30, 2022, 02:30:17 PM
Post by: mocat on November 30, 2022, 02:33:07 PM
4 yellows for poland
mexico or argentina need a goal in the next 20-30 mins for mexico to advance
*OR* a red card for a polish player
Post by: mocat on November 30, 2022, 02:37:57 PM
7 yellows for mexico
5 yellows for poland
mexico or argentina need a goal in the next 20-30 mins for mexico to advance
*OR* a red card for a polish player
Post by: mocat on November 30, 2022, 02:50:07 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 30, 2022, 02:52:18 PM
Post by: mocat on November 30, 2022, 02:57:25 PM
Post by: sys on November 30, 2022, 03:02:19 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 30, 2022, 03:09:45 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 30, 2022, 04:31:53 PM
Post by: mocat on November 30, 2022, 04:37:23 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 30, 2022, 04:49:09 PM
And it can't be someone fresh off the bench, either. Each racer must have played the entire game.
Post by: ChiComCat on November 30, 2022, 05:38:25 PM
Crazy it almost ended on cumulative yellows. Fair play as third tiebreaker is pretty crazy.
It's technically like the 5th or 6th but the teams, until the late Saudi goal, had the exact same results in the group.
Post by: Phil Titola on November 30, 2022, 06:51:00 PM
Crazy it almost ended on cumulative yellows. Fair play as third tiebreaker is pretty crazy.
It's technically like the 5th or 6th but the teams, until the late Saudi goal, had the exact same results in the group.
Ahh okay I googled it and found the others. Okay
https://www.si.com/soccer/2022/11/25/fifa-world-cup-group-tiebreaker-rules-explained
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 30, 2022, 08:05:04 PM
2 players have to have a glancing collision with each other. The first one to manage to get back onto his feet under his own power wins
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 30, 2022, 09:57:04 PM
They really should be using the tried and true coin flip method
mocat this smug attitude isn't going to win me over as a futbol fun attic
Post by: MakeItRain on December 01, 2022, 05:01:26 AM
They really should be using the tried and true coin flip method
That's actually the very last tiebreaker
Post by: michigancat on December 01, 2022, 06:57:36 AM
They really should be using the tried and true coin flip method
mocat this smug attitude isn't going to win me over as a futbol fun attic
I don't think it's for you, and that's ok
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 01, 2022, 08:20:06 AM
They really should be using the tried and true coin flip method
mocat this smug attitude isn't going to win me over as a futbol fun attic
I don't think it's for you, and that's ok
It's an interesting enough sport for me to watch championship/playoff level games but not follow week to week.
Post by: mocat on December 01, 2022, 10:50:28 AM
Post by: Tobias on December 01, 2022, 10:59:52 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on December 01, 2022, 11:04:56 AM
Crazy it almost ended on cumulative yellows. Fair play as third tiebreaker is pretty crazy.
It's technically like the 5th or 6th but the teams, until the late Saudi goal, had the exact same results in the group.
Ahh okay I googled it and found the others. Okay
https://www.si.com/soccer/2022/11/25/fifa-world-cup-group-tiebreaker-rules-explained
In all reality though, it's surprising it doesn't come up more often in 4 team groups.
Post by: mocat on December 01, 2022, 11:34:08 AM
morocco winning that group, just as everyone expected :lol:
bananas
Post by: mocat on December 01, 2022, 11:35:02 AM
i really want canada to do well you guys. i kind of fell in love with them when they made mexico play a WCQ game in edmonton effing alberta in november :lol:
zero points awarded to canador
Post by: michigancat on December 01, 2022, 11:37:23 AM
I mean everywhere in Canada sucks in Novemberi really want canada to do well you guys. i kind of fell in love with them when they made mexico play a WCQ game in edmonton effing alberta in november
zero points awarded to canador
Post by: mocat on December 01, 2022, 11:41:41 AM
I mean everywhere in Canada sucks in Novemberi really want canada to do well you guys. i kind of fell in love with them when they made mexico play a WCQ game in edmonton effing alberta in november
zero points awarded to canador
that's true, 20 degrees and -20 degrees are the same, great point
Post by: mocat on December 01, 2022, 11:45:01 AM
Post by: michigancat on December 01, 2022, 11:47:30 AM
lol, it was actually 43 degrees in toronto that day, but they made mexico play in the northernmost host city in all of canadaI legit did not realize how far north Edmonton was relative to the rest of the country (especially Toronto). Disregard my earlier post.
Post by: mocat on December 01, 2022, 11:53:02 AM
lol, it was actually 43 degrees in toronto that day, but they made mexico play in the northernmost host city in all of canadaI legit did not realize how far north Edmonton was relative to the rest of the country (especially Toronto). Disregard my earlier post.
it's wild! it was actually really fun to watch. mexico had no chance, which was a major factor in canada being the 1 seed from concacaf.
obviously didn't help them at the WC tho
Post by: michigancat on December 01, 2022, 11:55:22 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 01, 2022, 12:11:46 PM
I don't remember who we played in Minneapolis in the winter but it was extremely silly
Honduras, and it was stupid as crap, not an advantage for anyone. We didn't need to play rough ridin' Honduras in St. Paul.
Post by: mocat on December 01, 2022, 12:17:06 PM
Post by: Spaces on December 01, 2022, 02:11:57 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 01, 2022, 02:26:09 PM
Post by: Spaces on December 01, 2022, 02:29:44 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on December 01, 2022, 02:38:57 PM
Post by: mocat on December 01, 2022, 02:49:50 PM
Japan! :D
amaze
Post by: Tobias on December 01, 2022, 02:56:01 PM
Post by: Spaces on December 01, 2022, 02:58:50 PM
I would be interested to see a chart as to which teams were going through at different points in these games. Absolutely insane.For about 3 minutes in the 2nd half, Spain and Germany were both going home.
Post by: Spaces on December 01, 2022, 02:59:56 PM
Post by: mocat on December 01, 2022, 03:01:37 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 01, 2022, 03:05:31 PM
Post by: mocat on December 02, 2022, 10:53:09 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on December 02, 2022, 11:06:11 AM
Post by: stunted on December 02, 2022, 11:12:34 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on December 02, 2022, 12:05:13 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on December 02, 2022, 12:08:22 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 02, 2022, 12:50:59 PM
So sad to see Suárez cry.
ON OPPOSITE DAY!
Post by: cfbandyman on December 03, 2022, 09:03:37 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on December 03, 2022, 09:15:00 AM
Post by: wetwillie on December 03, 2022, 09:22:06 AM
Post by: sys on December 03, 2022, 09:33:53 AM
Post by: CHONGS on December 03, 2022, 09:36:43 AM
Post by: wetwillie on December 03, 2022, 09:47:31 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on December 03, 2022, 09:47:48 AM
At least they made the knockouts
Post by: sys on December 03, 2022, 09:48:09 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on December 03, 2022, 10:35:18 AM
Post by: michigancat on December 03, 2022, 10:38:23 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on December 03, 2022, 10:38:51 AM
Post by: mocat on December 03, 2022, 10:39:32 AM
Post by: sys on December 03, 2022, 10:40:06 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on December 03, 2022, 10:44:16 AM
1) they can put a ball across the 6 yard box
2) they cut back a pass
3) back post
the us usually has 3 guys in a line running as fast as they can. we also had 2 1 on 1's with the keeper and should have converted at least 1 of them.
Post by: Kat Kid on December 03, 2022, 10:50:09 AM
Post by: michigancat on December 03, 2022, 11:00:51 AM
https://twitter.com/PanasonicDX4500/status/1599066908367540226?s=20&t=mnWnE9sHoBsu-PwamfIcrgOh damn
Post by: michigancat on December 03, 2022, 11:01:06 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on December 03, 2022, 11:02:37 AM
Why don't we have a good striker?
Definitely our weakest overall issue.
Post by: Trim on December 03, 2022, 11:17:41 AM
https://twitter.com/NBAonTNT/status/1599088157576024066
Post by: MakeItRain on December 04, 2022, 04:49:38 AM
Why don't we have a good striker?
I don't think our issue is not having a good striker, all three guys on the roster have produced well in their domestic leagues, it's the system doesn't provide service to the strikers, they don't get the chance, which is strange because Berhalter's system, when he was in MLS, was very striker friendly.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 04, 2022, 04:51:40 AM
Post by: Trim on December 05, 2022, 12:07:10 AM
Who’s paying these players?
A few days old but just caught up on some reading.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2022/11/30/heres-how-much-us-soccer-players-will-make-from-the-world-cup-based-on-stage-of-elimination/
That still doesn't get me to what I was really wondering, which is what makes this world cup and any other international competition different than all-star exhibition games. I'm guessing that national teams aren't any of these guys' primary employer, and that the bulk of their play is for their standard professional team in some league with a season schedule of practice and games and team things. Why isn't that a much bigger priority for both players and fans?
Post by: mocat on December 05, 2022, 03:46:41 PM
https://twitter.com/sportsinkansas/status/1599845848975740928?s=20&t=d7w31Eldv9XcQb5eEwxXPg
Post by: dal9 on December 05, 2022, 04:42:02 PM
Who’s paying these players?
A few days old but just caught up on some reading.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2022/11/30/heres-how-much-us-soccer-players-will-make-from-the-world-cup-based-on-stage-of-elimination/
That still doesn't get me to what I was really wondering, which is what makes this world cup and any other international competition different than all-star exhibition games. I'm guessing that national teams aren't any of these guys' primary employer, and that the bulk of their play is for their standard professional team in some league with a season schedule of practice and games and team things. Why isn't that a much bigger priority for both players and fans?
for many fans/players club is at least an equal priority...
as to why national team matters, it's really just patriotism etc (and for the players, the recognition of being selected for the national team probably helps at the margins for getting a better club contract)
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2022, 04:49:25 PM
Who’s paying these players?
A few days old but just caught up on some reading.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2022/11/30/heres-how-much-us-soccer-players-will-make-from-the-world-cup-based-on-stage-of-elimination/
That still doesn't get me to what I was really wondering, which is what makes this world cup and any other international competition different than all-star exhibition games. I'm guessing that national teams aren't any of these guys' primary employer, and that the bulk of their play is for their standard professional team in some league with a season schedule of practice and games and team things. Why isn't that a much bigger priority for both players and fans?
for many fans/players club is at least an equal priority...
as to why national team matters, it's really just patriotism etc (and for the players, the recognition of being selected for the national team probably helps at the margins for getting a better club contract)
it's also the only tournament where literally the entire world can participate - people follow the top leagues but the best players are spread out across a few leagues and rarely play clubs in other leagues outside of the Champions/Europa Leagues and even then it's a bit limited.
Also the players are more or less on the same team their entire career as opposed to leagues where players change clubs all the time.
Post by: cfbandyman on December 05, 2022, 07:22:21 PM
Who’s paying these players?
A few days old but just caught up on some reading.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2022/11/30/heres-how-much-us-soccer-players-will-make-from-the-world-cup-based-on-stage-of-elimination/
That still doesn't get me to what I was really wondering, which is what makes this world cup and any other international competition different than all-star exhibition games. I'm guessing that national teams aren't any of these guys' primary employer, and that the bulk of their play is for their standard professional team in some league with a season schedule of practice and games and team things. Why isn't that a much bigger priority for both players and fans?
for many fans/players club is at least an equal priority...
as to why national team matters, it's really just patriotism etc (and for the players, the recognition of being selected for the national team probably helps at the margins for getting a better club contract)
it's also the only tournament where literally the entire world can participate - people follow the top leagues but the best players are spread out across a few leagues and rarely play clubs in other leagues outside of the Champions/Europa Leagues and even then it's a bit limited.
Also the players are more or less on the same team their entire career as opposed to leagues where players change clubs all the time.
And not just spread out amongst leagues but also often many times not even on your own continent, it's fun to see your guys come "home" to play for their home country
Post by: michigancat on December 06, 2022, 06:12:27 AM
Yeah I mean just from the US team how many different European leagues are they in? At least 6 off the top of my headWho’s paying these players?
A few days old but just caught up on some reading.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2022/11/30/heres-how-much-us-soccer-players-will-make-from-the-world-cup-based-on-stage-of-elimination/
That still doesn't get me to what I was really wondering, which is what makes this world cup and any other international competition different than all-star exhibition games. I'm guessing that national teams aren't any of these guys' primary employer, and that the bulk of their play is for their standard professional team in some league with a season schedule of practice and games and team things. Why isn't that a much bigger priority for both players and fans?
for many fans/players club is at least an equal priority...
as to why national team matters, it's really just patriotism etc (and for the players, the recognition of being selected for the national team probably helps at the margins for getting a better club contract)
it's also the only tournament where literally the entire world can participate - people follow the top leagues but the best players are spread out across a few leagues and rarely play clubs in other leagues outside of the Champions/Europa Leagues and even then it's a bit limited.
Also the players are more or less on the same team their entire career as opposed to leagues where players change clubs all the time.
And not just spread out amongst leagues but also often many times not even on your own continent, it's fun to see your guys come "home" to play for their home country
Post by: mocat on December 06, 2022, 11:47:08 AM
Post by: mocat on December 06, 2022, 11:47:49 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on December 06, 2022, 11:49:26 AM
Post by: mocat on December 06, 2022, 11:52:09 AM
Wow. That goalie just had the kind of game he's been dreaming of since he was a little kid.
did you see him talking crap to the spanish player right before blocking his attempt? amazing
Post by: MakeItRain on December 06, 2022, 11:58:34 AM
Post by: Spaces on December 06, 2022, 12:00:45 PM
Post by: mocat on December 06, 2022, 12:09:32 PM
Ronaldo has been dropped to the bench today after throwing another tantrum when getting subbed last game :lol:
just the worst
Post by: Spaces on December 06, 2022, 04:40:16 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on December 06, 2022, 09:33:27 PM
Post by: mocat on December 09, 2022, 11:47:54 AM
Post by: Spaces on December 09, 2022, 11:48:35 AM
Post by: DaBigTrain on December 09, 2022, 11:48:52 AM
Post by: CHONGS on December 09, 2022, 11:53:34 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 09, 2022, 11:56:31 AM
Big day for caste sports or whatever that forum was
Did you see that black woman in Croatia's section :surprised:
Post by: Spaces on December 09, 2022, 03:03:49 PM
Post by: mocat on December 09, 2022, 03:05:02 PM
Post by: mocat on December 09, 2022, 03:05:37 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on December 09, 2022, 03:07:52 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 09, 2022, 03:25:04 PM
Post by: Spaces on December 09, 2022, 03:39:07 PM
Damn, I checked the score awhile ago and Argentina was up 2-0 at ~75 min. Seemed like a sure win. :frown:it took this cheeky free kick in the final seconds to take it to extra time
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1601321926940565504
Post by: ChiComCat on December 09, 2022, 04:04:29 PM
Post by: mocat on December 09, 2022, 04:05:04 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 09, 2022, 04:07:06 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on December 09, 2022, 04:09:00 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on December 09, 2022, 04:10:31 PM
As a fairly casual soccer fan, I'm also not mad at the ridiculous amounts of stoppage time. At least they're consistent with it.
Post by: mocat on December 09, 2022, 04:10:45 PM
Well, I'm just glad our New World bros prevailed in the end. I'm hoping they beat Croatia, too.
TCH
:tsc:
Post by: mocat on December 09, 2022, 04:11:35 PM
As a fairly casual soccer fan, I'm also not mad at the ridiculous amounts of stoppage time. At least they're consistent with it.
i love it so much, absolute chaos lmao
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 09, 2022, 04:14:54 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 09, 2022, 05:31:58 PM
Anyone know what was going on after Argentina v. Netherlands was over? There was the thing with Messi and their staff and before that there seemed to be a scuffle after they last PK that Fox completely ignored.
Post by: cfbandyman on December 09, 2022, 05:34:13 PM
I will say that the lady in the checkered top with the huge tits that I keep seeing photos of has me sympathizing with Croatia just a little bit, because she looks like someone who could really use something good to happen in her life, but the fairytale ride has to stop somewhere.
Need to put her in the boner thread
Post by: ben ji on December 09, 2022, 05:58:05 PM
Then the tension at the end of that Argentina/Netherlands game :love: :love: :love:. You could cut it with a butter knife.
Post by: DaBigTrain on December 09, 2022, 05:59:04 PM
Post by: dal9 on December 09, 2022, 08:57:09 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on December 09, 2022, 09:19:36 PM
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: cfbandyman on December 09, 2022, 09:46:39 PM
That being said, probably nothing
Post by: mocat on December 09, 2022, 10:07:50 PM
https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2022/12/american-soccer-journalist-dies-under-mysterious-circumstances-in-qatarIs that real? He is pretty well known
Post by: mocat on December 09, 2022, 10:07:56 PM
Post by: Tobias on December 09, 2022, 10:13:27 PM
Post by: Spracne on December 09, 2022, 10:56:48 PM
Hmmm, will be watching that story and see if anything comes of it.
That being said, probably nothing
I too am in wait and see mode.
Post by: pissclams on December 10, 2022, 12:27:35 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 10, 2022, 02:35:55 AM
all of the suspicion people are displaying around this is really ugly
Yeah, journalists who were actually there said he collapsed in his chair and the Qatari paramedics treated him immediately. I'm sure his brother's video isn't helping, but that's a grieving relative and many of the people displaying ugliness likely don't care for his brother anyway. Our government will get his body and do a full autopsy, but I'm guessing the Qatari government didn't use some super spy methods to force Grant to collapse in his chair while in a press box with dozens of other people, surrounded by 80,000 more.
This is sad as hell though, he was a great journalist and by all accounts, a great dude.
Post by: pissclams on December 10, 2022, 06:40:39 AM
Post by: wetwillie on December 10, 2022, 06:49:19 AM
Post by: pissclams on December 10, 2022, 08:49:28 AM
Post by: michigancat on December 10, 2022, 08:55:37 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 10, 2022, 10:01:30 AM
Post by: Spaces on December 10, 2022, 10:20:43 AM
Post by: Spaces on December 10, 2022, 11:02:01 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 10, 2022, 02:45:18 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 10, 2022, 02:46:13 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 10, 2022, 03:02:24 PM
Post by: Spracne on December 10, 2022, 03:32:42 PM
Post by: wetwillie on December 10, 2022, 04:05:17 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on December 10, 2022, 04:08:32 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on December 10, 2022, 04:10:21 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on December 10, 2022, 04:10:51 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 10, 2022, 08:45:50 PM
I still want Messi to win it
Even after he and his teammates acted like complete donkeys against the Netherlands?
Post by: Kat Kid on December 10, 2022, 08:59:15 PM
I still want Messi to win it
Even after he and his teammates acted like complete donkeys against the Netherlands?
meh, didn't think there was anything that bad. they look like they can win it, they used some dumb motivation stuff to power them it is just very sterotypical sports stuff to me.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 11, 2022, 12:26:17 AM
I still want Messi to win it
Even after he and his teammates acted like complete donkeys against the Netherlands?
They are our western hem bros, warts and all.
Post by: cfbandyman on December 13, 2022, 01:45:30 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on December 13, 2022, 01:45:55 PM
Post by: mocat on December 13, 2022, 01:50:18 PM
Post by: Tobias on December 13, 2022, 01:54:51 PM
Post by: wetwillie on December 18, 2022, 09:44:51 AM
Post by: mocat on December 18, 2022, 09:49:41 AM
Post by: Spaces on December 18, 2022, 09:51:55 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on December 18, 2022, 10:22:03 AM
This didn’t age well.this is not nearly as big of an upset as saudi over argentina but japan over germany is pretty big
I kind of felt Argentina was a little over-rated going into the WC but yeah it was much bigger of an upset.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 18, 2022, 10:45:20 AM
Post by: mocat on December 18, 2022, 10:54:34 AM
Post by: michigancat on December 18, 2022, 11:01:27 AM
Post by: CHONGS on December 18, 2022, 11:10:09 AM
Post by: mocat on December 18, 2022, 11:38:36 AM
Post by: Spracne on December 18, 2022, 11:40:41 AM
Post by: mocat on December 18, 2022, 11:45:37 AM
Post by: Spaces on December 18, 2022, 11:45:59 AM
Post by: michigancat on December 18, 2022, 12:01:19 PM
Sorry mich but it was worth it, let's goIt was a very cool coin flip
I actually switched to the Telemundo broadcast in the second half and it was wonderful
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1604536820276101124
Post by: MakeItRain on December 18, 2022, 12:15:52 PM
Shame Argentina didn’t let France hang around a bit longer, this one is over.
What a choke job.
(https://i.ibb.co/3Tzsnpk/20221216-234539.jpg)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 18, 2022, 12:18:00 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on December 18, 2022, 12:35:58 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 18, 2022, 01:01:46 PM
Post by: mocat on December 18, 2022, 01:05:51 PM
Post by: mocat on December 18, 2022, 01:06:10 PM
Post by: steve dave on December 18, 2022, 01:26:29 PM
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: mocat on December 18, 2022, 01:31:44 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on December 18, 2022, 01:35:39 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on December 18, 2022, 01:47:43 PM
I picked Argentina to win the tournament and I ultimately won my pool, so nah, but Mbappé was clearly the best player.
I agree, but also Messi is winning it as a lifetime achievement and that is fine.
Post by: cfbandyman on December 18, 2022, 05:29:54 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 18, 2022, 06:04:33 PM
I just hope it doesn't go to a shootout because shootouts are stupid
This sport probably isn’t for you and that’s ok
Post by: mocat on December 18, 2022, 08:29:18 PM
I just hope it doesn't go to a shootout because shootouts are stupid
This sport probably isn’t for you and that’s ok
:)
Post by: michigancat on December 18, 2022, 08:30:44 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 18, 2022, 09:32:52 PM
I just hope it doesn't go to a shootout because shootouts are stupid
This sport probably isn’t for you and that’s ok
:lol: nice C43
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 18, 2022, 09:52:09 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 18, 2022, 11:26:23 PM
I watched the second half and some of overtime plus kick off stuff. It was actually fairly interesting. I’m in New York and I think an Argentinian watching place was down my street. They were super into it. I wouldn’t watch it every week or anything but if most games are like that I would definitely watch some.
I love the sport so much. Most games are nothing like that. It had so many elements that simply won't be replicated again, likely in our lifetime. The stakes, the teams, two generational talents matching moment for moment. All things considered, it was the best game in any team sport, in our lifetime. All that being said it was extremely close to being the biggest dud in world cup final history. If Argentina gets that to 3-0, and they were damn close to doing so, no one in this country are saying boo about what happened at Lusail Stadium on December 18, 2022.
Post by: cfbandyman on December 19, 2022, 09:14:17 AM
I watched the second half and some of overtime plus kick off stuff. It was actually fairly interesting. I’m in New York and I think an Argentinian watching place was down my street. They were super into it. I wouldn’t watch it every week or anything but if most games are like that I would definitely watch some.
I love the sport so much. Most games are nothing like that. It had so many elements that simply won't be replicated again, likely in our lifetime. The stakes, the teams, two generational talents matching moment for moment. All things considered, it was the best game in any team sport, in our lifetime. All that being said it was extremely close to being the biggest dud in world cup final history. If Argentina gets that to 3-0, and they were damn close to doing so, no one in this country are saying boo about what happened at Lusail Stadium on December 18, 2022.
I think that actually enhanced it cause it was headed to being a dud and then became that. It was a shot to the arm
Post by: ChiComCat on December 19, 2022, 09:46:38 AM
Post by: Trim on December 20, 2022, 09:43:16 PM
https://www.espn.com/soccer/france-fra/story/4835664/france-federation-condemns-racist-abuse-of-mbappe-coman