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Title: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: steve dave on June 07, 2010, 11:05:30 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/13491457/lost-in-the-phog-kansas-shows-basketballs-place-in-college

Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: michigancat on June 07, 2010, 11:08:18 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 07, 2010, 11:14:03 AM
BLASPHEMY!!!!
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: ltrain on June 07, 2010, 11:16:01 AM
Quote
Would that lead to Kansas in the ACC?

Or the Mountain West?

(If it's the latter, good look turning a big profit by scalping stolen league tournament tickets.)


 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: KITNfury on June 07, 2010, 11:47:09 AM
All a lie. They aren't being looked at seriously because of us.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: nicname on June 07, 2010, 12:37:29 PM
Listen Steve, KU is a basketball blue-blood, an AAU member, a tier 1 suniversity and one of the haves in college athletics.  KU is the flagship university in the state of Kansas and carries national brand appeal.  Not to mention recent success(2008 Orange Bowl) in football and anyone can see that KU is a sleeping giant.  With KSU out of the way and in mid-major land Memorial Stadium will be expanded to 75,000 seats and KU will show true might!  But that will never happens because KU is tied to KSU :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: bakerman on June 07, 2010, 12:48:32 PM
Quote
Would that lead to Kansas in the ACC?

Or the Mountain West?

(If it's the latter, good look turning a big profit by scalping stolen league tournament tickets.)


 :lol:


This part of the article made my coworkers look weirdly at me for laughing so loud....
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 07, 2010, 01:23:44 PM
http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/ (http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/)


CANDIDATES   TOTAL ADDED REVENUE ESTIMATE
    
Texas   $101,369,004
Rutgers    WITH NYC   $67,798,609
Nebraska   $54,487,990
Maryland   $50,818,889
Boston College   $48,382,692
Notre Dame   $47,629,255
Kansas   $46,320,092
Missouri   $45,901,459
Syracuse   $43,504,813
Connecticut   $38,080,271
Pittsburgh   $34,365,175
Iowa State   $31,831,077
    
Syracuse  WITH NYC   $65,874,573
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Pete on June 07, 2010, 01:27:23 PM
http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/ (http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/)


CANDIDATES   TOTAL ADDED REVENUE ESTIMATE
    
Texas   $101,369,004
Rutgers    WITH NYC   $67,798,609
Nebraska   $54,487,990
Maryland   $50,818,889
Boston College   $48,382,692
Notre Dame   $47,629,255
Kansas   $46,320,092
Missouri   $45,901,459
Syracuse   $43,504,813
Connecticut   $38,080,271
Pittsburgh   $34,365,175
Iowa State   $31,831,077
    
Syracuse  WITH NYC   $65,874,573


I'm gonna go with Gary Parrish over frankthetank, Beams.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: CNS on June 07, 2010, 01:32:30 PM
KU is the girl who's dad told her she was pretty her whole life.  Then the girl goes to college and has no one telling her she is pretty any more other than when she is on the phone with dad. 

KU, daddy(JoCo) still loves you.  Just remember that. 

Who cares that you have no one asking you out.  Daddy says if they aren't giving you attention, they aren't good enough anyway.

Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 07, 2010, 01:43:45 PM
http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/ (http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/)


CANDIDATES   TOTAL ADDED REVENUE ESTIMATE
    
Texas   $101,369,004
Rutgers    WITH NYC   $67,798,609
Nebraska   $54,487,990
Maryland   $50,818,889
Boston College   $48,382,692
Notre Dame   $47,629,255
Kansas   $46,320,092
Missouri   $45,901,459
Syracuse   $43,504,813
Connecticut   $38,080,271
Pittsburgh   $34,365,175
Iowa State   $31,831,077
    
Syracuse  WITH NYC   $65,874,573

so kansas is 8th on the list? maybe the big 10 will expand to 20 or 25 ku gets in afterall.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Pete on June 07, 2010, 01:46:46 PM
http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/ (http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/)


CANDIDATES   TOTAL ADDED REVENUE ESTIMATE
    
Texas   $101,369,004
Rutgers    WITH NYC   $67,798,609
Nebraska   $54,487,990
Maryland   $50,818,889
Boston College   $48,382,692
Notre Dame   $47,629,255
Kansas   $46,320,092
Missouri   $45,901,459
Syracuse   $43,504,813
Connecticut   $38,080,271
Pittsburgh   $34,365,175
Iowa State   $31,831,077
    
Syracuse  WITH NYC   $65,874,573

so kansas is 8th on the list? maybe the big 10 will expand to 20 or 25 ku gets in afterall.

7th on the list, you rough ridin' jackass. 
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: pissclams on June 07, 2010, 01:48:43 PM
http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/ (http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/)


CANDIDATES   TOTAL ADDED REVENUE ESTIMATE
    
Texas   $101,369,004
Rutgers    WITH NYC   $67,798,609
Nebraska   $54,487,990
Maryland   $50,818,889
Boston College   $48,382,692
Notre Dame   $47,629,255
Kansas   $46,320,092
Missouri   $45,901,459
Syracuse   $43,504,813
Connecticut   $38,080,271
Pittsburgh   $34,365,175
Iowa State   $31,831,077
    
Syracuse  WITH NYC   $65,874,573
a school's total revenue really is immaterial to the discussion. i know you think it's important, because it gives you something to believe in but the truth is that an athletic dept's revenue doesn't mean squat.  it's television sets that matter here broseph and ku, despite what they've told themselves all these years, is still in kansas.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Trim on June 07, 2010, 01:49:07 PM
7th on the list, you rough ridin' jackass.  

8th if including Syracuse WITH NYC.  Either way, warm up the banner-hanging, motherfuckers!
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 07, 2010, 01:49:31 PM
http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/ (http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/)


CANDIDATES   TOTAL ADDED REVENUE ESTIMATE
    
Texas   $101,369,004
Rutgers    WITH NYC   $67,798,609
Nebraska   $54,487,990
Maryland   $50,818,889
Boston College   $48,382,692
Notre Dame   $47,629,255
Kansas   $46,320,092
Missouri   $45,901,459
Syracuse   $43,504,813
Connecticut   $38,080,271
Pittsburgh   $34,365,175
Iowa State   $31,831,077
    
Syracuse  WITH NYC   $65,874,573

so kansas is 8th on the list? maybe the big 10 will expand to 20 or 25 ku gets in afterall.

7th on the list, you fracking jackass. 

i don't know man. unless i'm reading it wrong (which i might be because i can't follow the link at work) it looks like syracuse should be up above ku at 65,874,573 WITH NYC or whatever that means. i do agree w/ the bmw premise that if the big10 expands to 20 or 30 teams that ku will probably be one of them.  
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 07, 2010, 01:52:09 PM
http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/ (http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/)


CANDIDATES   TOTAL ADDED REVENUE ESTIMATE
    
Texas   $101,369,004
Rutgers    WITH NYC   $67,798,609
Nebraska   $54,487,990
Maryland   $50,818,889
Boston College   $48,382,692
Notre Dame   $47,629,255
Kansas   $46,320,092
Missouri   $45,901,459
Syracuse   $43,504,813
Connecticut   $38,080,271
Pittsburgh   $34,365,175
Iowa State   $31,831,077
    
Syracuse  WITH NYC   $65,874,573
a school's total revenue really is immaterial to the discussion. i know you think it's important, because it gives you something to believe it but the truth is that an athletic dept's revenue doesn't mean squat.  it's television sets that matter here broseph and ku, despite what they've told themselves all these years, is still in kansas.



It's a total added revenue estimate, not the school's athletic revenue.  In other words, KU would add ~46 million to the Big 10. 
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on June 07, 2010, 01:55:22 PM
http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/ (http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/)


CANDIDATES   TOTAL ADDED REVENUE ESTIMATE
    
Texas   $101,369,004
Rutgers    WITH NYC   $67,798,609
Nebraska   $54,487,990
Maryland   $50,818,889
Boston College   $48,382,692
Notre Dame   $47,629,255
Kansas   $46,320,092
Missouri   $45,901,459
Syracuse   $43,504,813
Connecticut   $38,080,271
Pittsburgh   $34,365,175
Iowa State   $31,831,077
    
Syracuse  WITH NYC   $65,874,573
a school's total revenue really is immaterial to the discussion. i know you think it's important, because it gives you something to believe in but the truth is that an athletic dept's revenue doesn't mean squat.  it's television sets that matter here broseph and ku, despite what they've told themselves all these years, is still in kansas.

This and with the ticket scalping crap that is going on I doubt the validity of the the sell out crowds.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Trim on June 07, 2010, 01:57:23 PM
http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/ (http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/)


CANDIDATES   TOTAL ADDED REVENUE ESTIMATE
    
Texas   $101,369,004
Rutgers    WITH NYC   $67,798,609
Nebraska   $54,487,990
Maryland   $50,818,889
Boston College   $48,382,692
Notre Dame   $47,629,255
Kansas   $46,320,092
Missouri   $45,901,459
Syracuse   $43,504,813
Connecticut   $38,080,271
Pittsburgh   $34,365,175
Iowa State   $31,831,077
    
Syracuse  WITH NYC   $65,874,573
a school's total revenue really is immaterial to the discussion. i know you think it's important, because it gives you something to believe it but the truth is that an athletic dept's revenue doesn't mean squat.  it's television sets that matter here broseph and ku, despite what they've told themselves all these years, is still in kansas.



It's a total added revenue estimate, not the school's athletic revenue.  In other words, KU would add ~46 million to the Big 10.  

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.athlonsports.com%2Fd%2F7245-1%2FDezmonBriscoe.jpg&hash=1e80333c4c4f40e4e568fe8e89e19405f7b46fd2)






 :love:
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 07, 2010, 02:00:49 PM
i agree w/ bmw here. out of the 11 schools listed, ku is probably 8th or 9th on the big10's list.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 07, 2010, 02:04:43 PM
http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/ (http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/)


CANDIDATES   TOTAL ADDED REVENUE ESTIMATE
    
Texas   $101,369,004
Rutgers    WITH NYC   $67,798,609
Nebraska   $54,487,990
Maryland   $50,818,889
Boston College   $48,382,692
Notre Dame   $47,629,255
Kansas   $46,320,092
Missouri   $45,901,459
Syracuse   $43,504,813
Connecticut   $38,080,271
Pittsburgh   $34,365,175
Iowa State   $31,831,077
    
Syracuse  WITH NYC   $65,874,573
a school's total revenue really is immaterial to the discussion. i know you think it's important, because it gives you something to believe it but the truth is that an athletic dept's revenue doesn't mean squat.  it's television sets that matter here broseph and ku, despite what they've told themselves all these years, is still in kansas.



It's a total added revenue estimate, not the school's athletic revenue.  In other words, KU would add ~46 million to the Big 10.  

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg685.imageshack.us%2Fimg685%2F886%2Fbeamers.jpg&hash=d35b481b472ea8998b7177cbf11b50e9a241f02c)


Quote from: Patrick (aka FrankTheTank Wannabe) (aka chart guru)
If anyone wants to pass along better or more current numbers, I would appreciate it.

 :flush: :flush:
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: pissclams on June 07, 2010, 02:07:23 PM
http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/ (http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/)


CANDIDATES   TOTAL ADDED REVENUE ESTIMATE
    
Texas   $101,369,004
Rutgers    WITH NYC   $67,798,609
Nebraska   $54,487,990
Maryland   $50,818,889
Boston College   $48,382,692
Notre Dame   $47,629,255
Kansas   $46,320,092
Missouri   $45,901,459
Syracuse   $43,504,813
Connecticut   $38,080,271
Pittsburgh   $34,365,175
Iowa State   $31,831,077
    
Syracuse  WITH NYC   $65,874,573
a school's total revenue really is immaterial to the discussion. i know you think it's important, because it gives you something to believe it but the truth is that an athletic dept's revenue doesn't mean squat.  it's television sets that matter here broseph and ku, despite what they've told themselves all these years, is still in kansas.



It's a total added revenue estimate, not the school's athletic revenue.  In other words, KU would add ~46 million to the Big 10. 
got it- sorry for not reading the link.  over at Phog the guys seem to be relying heavily on the AD's revenue as if it matters.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: get_HIT on June 07, 2010, 02:59:46 PM
 :users:
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 07, 2010, 03:04:17 PM
Who can trust ku's athletic revenues anyway . . . nearly everyplace you can go find out about revenues for athletic departments has different numbers for ku . . . they're all over the map, they are also ALWAYS the last BCS conference school to have their DOE Equity in Athletics financial numbers updated.   THe USA Today FOIA information doesn't match what they submitted to the DOE for their EADA reports and the respective fiscal years. 
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 07, 2010, 03:15:37 PM
I know Missourians are a bunch of meth heads that steal TVs rather than watch them, but how does KU generate more cable ad dollars than Missouri?
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 07, 2010, 03:19:19 PM
Who can trust ku's athletic revenues anyway . . . nearly everyplace you can go find out about revenues for athletic departments has different numbers for ku . . . they're all over the map, they are also ALWAYS the last BCS conference school to have their DOE Equity in Athletics financial numbers updated.   THe USA Today FOIA information doesn't match what they submitted to the DOE for their EADA reports and the respective fiscal years. 



If anything, KU's athletic revenue is underestimated because of the opportunity cost missed on all of those "complimentary" tickets.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: EMAWzified on June 07, 2010, 03:26:33 PM
The funny thing is had KU just let basketball slide a bit in the 90s and done something like Snyder did with the Cats, they'd be in most discussions. But they buried their heads in a basketball, and nobody gave a crap.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 07, 2010, 03:32:14 PM
two ku co-workers just asked me if i thought that ku basketball could join the nba and they could just have the rest of their sports play in the mwc. i chuckled and said "good one" and then they got mad and told me that they were being serious and that one of them had already emailed lew about it. wow. just, wow.  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Brock Landers on June 07, 2010, 03:34:27 PM
http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/ (http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/)


CANDIDATES   TOTAL ADDED REVENUE ESTIMATE
    
Texas   $101,369,004
Rutgers    WITH NYC   $67,798,609
Nebraska   $54,487,990
Maryland   $50,818,889
Boston College   $48,382,692
Notre Dame   $47,629,255
Kansas   $46,320,092
Missouri   $45,901,459
Syracuse   $43,504,813
Connecticut   $38,080,271
Pittsburgh   $34,365,175
Iowa State   $31,831,077
    
Syracuse  WITH NYC   $65,874,573


I was kinda surprised to even see Iowa State mentioned on this list, and that they would less than $3 million behind Pitt.  Then again, rassling is huge in the Big 10.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 07, 2010, 03:37:25 PM
Who can trust ku's athletic revenues anyway . . . nearly everyplace you can go find out about revenues for athletic departments has different numbers for ku . . . they're all over the map, they are also ALWAYS the last BCS conference school to have their DOE Equity in Athletics financial numbers updated.   THe USA Today FOIA information doesn't match what they submitted to the DOE for their EADA reports and the respective fiscal years. 



If anything, KU's athletic revenue is underestimated because of the opportunity cost missed on all of those "complimentary" tickets.

Or the money was laundered back through the athletic department since it was cash and never put on any books . . . you don't know, that's why the IRS and the FBI are STILL investigating ku athletics.

Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Cire on June 07, 2010, 03:37:54 PM
two ku co-workers just asked me if i thought that ku basketball could join the nba and they could just have the rest of their sports play in the mwc. i chuckled and said "good one" and then they got mad and told me that they were being serious and that one of them had already emailed lew about it. wow. just, wow.  :lol:

over heard the custodians in their room discussing the same thing.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 07, 2010, 03:39:29 PM
Who can trust ku's athletic revenues anyway . . . nearly everyplace you can go find out about revenues for athletic departments has different numbers for ku . . . they're all over the map, they are also ALWAYS the last BCS conference school to have their DOE Equity in Athletics financial numbers updated.   THe USA Today FOIA information doesn't match what they submitted to the DOE for their EADA reports and the respective fiscal years. 



If anything, KU's athletic revenue is underestimated because of the opportunity cost missed on all of those "complimentary" tickets.

Or the money was laundered back through the athletic department since it was cash and never put on any books . . . you don't know, that's why the IRS and the FBI are STILL investigating ku athletics.





Yes, which would make the total revenue look like less than what it actually is. 
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: steve dave on June 07, 2010, 03:40:20 PM
Did you guys read the Gary Parrish colum about how KU smells and their face smells and their butts smell and nobody wants them in their conference? 
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 07, 2010, 03:41:58 PM
Who can trust ku's athletic revenues anyway . . . nearly everyplace you can go find out about revenues for athletic departments has different numbers for ku . . . they're all over the map, they are also ALWAYS the last BCS conference school to have their DOE Equity in Athletics financial numbers updated.   THe USA Today FOIA information doesn't match what they submitted to the DOE for their EADA reports and the respective fiscal years. 



If anything, KU's athletic revenue is underestimated because of the opportunity cost missed on all of those "complimentary" tickets.

Or the money was laundered back through the athletic department since it was cash and never put on any books . . . you don't know, that's why the IRS and the FBI are STILL investigating ku athletics.





Yes, which would make the total revenue look like less than what it actually is. 

If that really is the case, then Lew and a bunch of other people need to start getting fitted for Orange jumpsuits now.

Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Cire on June 07, 2010, 03:42:27 PM
Did you guys read the Gary Parrish colum about how KU smells and their face smells and their butts smell and nobody wants them in their conference? 

pretty sure everyone in the country that cares about college sports read it.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 07, 2010, 03:46:57 PM
Anybody ever wonder who +1 Hidden is??

Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: CatsNShocks on June 07, 2010, 04:27:49 PM
Geezus, Tejas is a monster.
And KSU owns them in everything.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: CNS on June 07, 2010, 04:29:54 PM
Anybody ever wonder who +1 Hidden is??


http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=814 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=814) :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: yosh on June 07, 2010, 04:43:55 PM
I know Missourians are a bunch of meth heads that steal TVs rather than watch them, but how does KU generate more cable ad dollars than Missouri?

this.  completely threw the table out  when I saw that part.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 07, 2010, 04:53:14 PM
Did you guys read the Gary Parrish colum about how KU smells and their face smells and their butts smell and nobody wants them in their conference? 


Quote
Kansas -- home of a top five basketball program by most historical and current measuring sticks -- is no more of a player in the eat-or-be-eaten game of conference realignment than Iowa State or Kansas State. Or even Kennesaw State, really. And though none of this is a grand revelation -- the ACC, remember, didn't worry much about hoops when it raided the Big East back in 2003 -- it is most certainly a reminder that the future of college athletics will be decided without a single thought to how it affects college basketball.




That's actually more of a slam on the K-State and Iowa State's of the world, IMO.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Cire on June 07, 2010, 04:56:08 PM
hang a banner.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Trim on June 07, 2010, 04:57:48 PM
Mods, rename thread to Kansas, Iowa State, Kansas State, Kennesaw State Irrelevant.  Mods?
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: ew2x4 on June 07, 2010, 04:59:53 PM
Did you guys read the Gary Parrish colum about how KU smells and their face smells and their butts smell and nobody wants them in their conference? 


Quote
Kansas -- home of a top five basketball program by most historical and current measuring sticks -- is no more of a player in the eat-or-be-eaten game of conference realignment than Iowa State or Kansas State. Or even Kennesaw State, really. And though none of this is a grand revelation -- the ACC, remember, didn't worry much about hoops when it raided the Big East back in 2003 -- it is most certainly a reminder that the future of college athletics will be decided without a single thought to how it affects college basketball.




That's actually more of a slam on the K-State and Iowa State's of the world, IMO.

The fact we're not crying to mommy and can see the world for what it is is the real point here. Accept it and move on, man.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: steve dave on June 07, 2010, 05:17:05 PM
Quote
bobfescoe
 
if ku ends up in a non bcs league, i could see bill self leaving for the #nba #spurs may be a fit w buford connection
:surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Pete on June 07, 2010, 05:20:05 PM
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bobfescoe
 
if ku ends up in a non bcs league, i could see bill self leaving for the #nba #spurs may be a fit w buford connection
:surprised:


 :eek:

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The basketball coach was clear in his preference to keep the Big 12 the way it is, stating the men's basketball coaching job is "not as attractive if we're not a BCS conference."

http://www.wibw.com/sports/headlines/95797584.html


So do you think Self is more likely to take the Oklahoma State job or just jump to the pros?
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: steve dave on June 07, 2010, 05:22:58 PM
My guess is he goes to whichever offers first.  Nail in KU basketball's coffin.  They had a pretty nice run despite all the violations and junk. 
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: catzacker on June 07, 2010, 06:07:44 PM
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bobfescoe
 
if ku ends up in a non bcs league, i could see bill self leaving for the #nba #spurs may be a fit w buford connection
:surprised:


 :eek:

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The basketball coach was clear in his preference to keep the Big 12 the way it is, stating the men's basketball coaching job is "not as attractive if we're not a BCS conference."

http://www.wibw.com/sports/headlines/95797584.html


So do you think Self is more likely to take the Oklahoma State job or just jump to the pros?

IMO, he should jump to the pros, earn a fat check and if it doesn't work out, hop back to college, especially since the landscape might have settled by then.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 07, 2010, 07:23:16 PM
I know Missourians are a bunch of meth heads that steal TVs rather than watch them, but how does KU generate more cable ad dollars than Missouri?

Well, they are on ESPN just about every Monday during basketball season.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: pike on June 07, 2010, 07:48:28 PM
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Looks like we have found why we KU is not getting invited to a conference....KU and KSU are a package deal. No one wants anything to do with KSU

These are the straight up published numbers self-published by each school and to the board of regents.

Living Alumni
...
KU - 305,717
KSU - 158,828

Endowment

KU - $955 mil
KSU - $259.8 mil

Current Student enrollment

KU - 30,004
KSU - 21,570

Athletic dept. net worth

KU - $86,009,257 (2nd in the Big 12 only behind UT and #10 in the nation)
KSU - $48,160,113

Academics

KU
consistently ranks well above KSU in every national ranking of overall
academics. For example in the 2010 US News rankings, KU is #96 and a
tier 1 school, while KSU is unranked and a tier 3 school. KU is an AAU(Association of American Universities) member, while KSU is not.

From the comments ^

:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 07, 2010, 07:59:40 PM
Well you can lower ku's athletic department numbers by $20 million based on the information they released to USA Today . . . then again, as stated, you can't take what ku reports as fact, because they've been all over the map and who knows how badly Lew has cooked the books . . . their athletic department is currently operating in the red as well per Lew himself in USA today back in April.

Plus nice usage of the Spring Semester enrollment number, which are always lower than the Fall enrollment number which was 23,581.   But Tardville has never been very good at doing any actual research.




Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 07, 2010, 08:00:54 PM
Well you can lower ku's athletic department numbers by $20 million based on the information they released to USA Today . . . then again, as stated, you can't take what ku reports as fact, because they've been all over the map and who knows how badly Lew has cooked the books . . . their athletic department is currently operating in the red as well per Lew himself in USA today back in April.







 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 07, 2010, 08:04:12 PM
Look at the actual numbers Ben . . . and should I post Lew's quotes again from this last April about ku athletics operating in the red??

There's a reason the IRS is still auditing ku athletics.



Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: pike on June 07, 2010, 09:59:58 PM
My guess is he goes to whichever offers first.  Nail in KU basketball's coffin.  They had a pretty nice run despite all the violations and junk. 

Rapings, shootings, DUIs, and fast food incidents.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 07, 2010, 11:13:46 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/06/07/expansion-scenarios/index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/06/07/expansion-scenarios/index.html)


Some highlights from the article:


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6. Kansas becomes a LeBron-like free agent.
One of the great mysteries amid the ongoing Pac-16 speculation is what will become of Kansas, which, while not necessarily a football power, has a huge alumni base, sits in a decent TV market and, most notably, boasts one of the nation's most prestigious basketball programs. It's seems hard to believe the Jayhawks will fade into the wilderness.

Kansas has pledged its loyalty to the Big 12, but if the league implodes, who's to say the Big Ten wouldn't couple KU with Missouri? For all we know, Jim Delany prefers the Jayhawks. If not the Big Ten, what about the basketball-centric Big East, which knows no geographic bounds (see: Marquette)? It could be that KU can't go anywhere without K-State, thus diminishing its appeal, but if not, another major program could be changing major conferences.


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11. A new conference is born.
For a brief, glorious four-year run in the early '90s, Nick Van Exel (Cincinnati), Penny Hardaway (Memphis) and Tom Kleinschmidt (DePaul) wreaked havoc in the short-lived Great Midwest. Why not bring it back -- only with a different lineup and a football edition?
I hereby propose the following consortium of teams plucked from the potential wreckage of the Big 12 and Big East: Cincinnati, Memphis, Louisville, West Virginia, USF, Connecticut, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State and Baylor. With a couple of strong years, who's to say this league wouldn't qualify for BCS status?



Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Trim on June 08, 2010, 12:16:20 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/06/07/expansion-scenarios/index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/06/07/expansion-scenarios/index.html)


Some highlights from the article:


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6. Kansas becomes a LeBron-like free agent.

Both 2nd-round losers?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: FHSU92 on June 08, 2010, 08:06:09 AM
Would they be more attractive than ksu if teams could actually fly into Lawrence like they can with the Hat?
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 08, 2010, 09:03:31 AM
Butt hurt squawkville has cranked the validation and affirmation up to 11 . . . shooting for 12.

Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 08, 2010, 10:33:21 AM
ku fans are not taking this confirmation of their irrelevance very well. 

Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: chum1 on June 08, 2010, 10:45:15 AM
I just checked phog on this stuff for the first time.  It seems many are taking solace in the notion that the Pac-10 actually wants to take KU, but is unable to. 
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 08, 2010, 11:00:12 AM
I just checked phog on this stuff for the first time.  It seems many are taking solace in the notion that the Pac-10 actually wants to take KU, but is unable to. 

Pac 10 couldn't care less about ku.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: pissclams on June 08, 2010, 11:45:05 AM
I just checked phog on this stuff for the first time.  It seems many are taking solace in the notion that the Pac-10 actually wants to take KU, but is unable to. 

Pac 10 couldn't care less about ku.
only b/c the P10 listens to 810 and also had read Pete's post about the schools being connected.  if it weren't for Pete and BITB, KU would already be in the PAC 10 or Conference Elite.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: FHSU92 on June 08, 2010, 12:13:01 PM
I just checked phog on this stuff for the first time.  It seems many are taking solace in the notion that the Pac-10 actually wants to take KU, but is unable to. 

What's the "unable to" part?  Is it being in a FBI/IRS investigation thingy; or, that they don't have room for a team from Hickrence, KS?
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 08, 2010, 12:28:32 PM
I just checked phog on this stuff for the first time.  It seems many are taking solace in the notion that the Pac-10 actually wants to take KU, but is unable to. 

Pac 10 couldn't care less about ku.
only b/c the P10 listens to 810 and also had read Pete's post about the schools being connected.  if it weren't for Pete and BITB, KU would already be in the PAC 10 or Conference Elite.

You know clams the overall power and weight this board carries across the spectrum of sports and world affairs can be a burden at times . . . but I think you'll agree it's worth it.


Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: michigancat on June 08, 2010, 12:51:00 PM
only b/c the P10 listens to 810 and also had read Pete's post about the schools being connected.  if it weren't for Pete and BITB, KU would already be in the PAC 10 or Conference Elite.

Exactly.  Here's what happened:

1)  Pac 10 "bigwig" really really wants Kansas.
2)  Bigwig reads Pete's post.
3)  Bigwig says, "well, guess we'll take OU/OSU instead.  Shucks."
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 08, 2010, 12:56:51 PM
only b/c the P10 listens to 810 and also had read Pete's post about the schools being connected.  if it weren't for Pete and BITB, KU would already be in the PAC 10 or Conference Elite.

Exactly.  Here's what happened:

1)  Pac 10 "bigwig" really really wants Kansas.
2)  Bigwig reads Pete's post.
3)  Bigwig says, "well, guess we'll take OU/OSU instead.  Shucks."

big 10 was a little different though.

1) big 10 wants to expand
2) big 10 studies expansion for like a year
3) big 10 totally wants ku
4) big 10 backs off as soon as they read a quote from BoR member dan lykins online in the topeka capital journal saying that ku and ksu as besties
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Brock Landers on June 08, 2010, 01:07:36 PM
uk trying to convince everyone they are worthy of a megaconference invite reminds me of the scene in Risky Business, where Joel has the guy from Harvard in for an interview while there is a giant party going on around them.


Big 10/Pac 10 Guy:  "Let's see here.  A couple of fluky National Championships, multiple Final Four appearances.....ooooh, are those Helms title banners up there?  JV Tennis.....You've done some solid work but it's just not BCS Conference now, is it?"

uk:  (puts on sunglasses)  "Looks like Mountain West to me!!"
Title: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: OregonSmock on June 08, 2010, 01:11:59 PM
http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/06/why-texas-tech-got-the-nod-ahead-of-kans.html


Some people in Kansas City have expressed surprise that Texas Tech was included among the six Big 12 schools getting possible invites to the Pac-10, ahead of Kansas and Baylor.

(Don't take offense, Red Raider fans. It's a fair question).

One person with knowledge of the college football landscape offered an interesting explanation. The Texas political scene might make it difficult for Texas and Texas A&M to exit, leaving Tech in a husk of a conference. Rather than risk losing the Longhorns and Aggies, the Pac-10 opted for Tech, which has been extremely competitive in football and has added capacity to Jones AT&T Stadium. Three members in Texas is not necessarily a bad thing.

Kansas has great basketball tradition and some name value, along with bringing the Kansas City market. But the Pac-10 would probably have to take Kansas State along with KU.

Baylor, despite success in just about every sport except football, was hurt by being a private, church-affiliated school. The Pac-10 consists of large, secular, state schools. Remember the reports of how the conference was not sold on BYU? Baylor may have found itself in the same situation, which is a little bit of a shame given the basketball success this past season.



 :curse:



Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: michigancat on June 08, 2010, 01:13:50 PM
That article is from Friday, bro.  The bolded part is false.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 08, 2010, 01:14:16 PM
I just checked phog on this stuff for the first time.  It seems many are taking solace in the notion that the Pac-10 actually wants to take KU, but is unable to. 

Pac 10 couldn't care less about ku.




The Pac 10 wants KU, but they don't want K-State.  You guys are like a cancer that won't go away.
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: CNS on June 08, 2010, 01:15:11 PM
Am I the only one not hearing all the swirling rumors of other conferences wanting KU?
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 08, 2010, 01:15:20 PM
I just checked phog on this stuff for the first time.  It seems many are taking solace in the notion that the Pac-10 actually wants to take KU, but is unable to. 

Pac 10 couldn't care less about ku.




The Pac 10 wants KU, but they don't want K-State.  You guys are like a cancer that won't go away.



excellent work...great bbsing.
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: KITNfury on June 08, 2010, 01:17:53 PM
That article is from Friday, bro.  The bolded part is false.
Yep it's false, and they are still being passed over. Ouchies.
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 08, 2010, 01:18:22 PM
 :bawl:

It's all K-State's fault. It has nothing to do with your fans not showing up to football games, or your football team sucking. Did you know that the BCS bowl last year with the two mid-majors actually drew better ratings than your Orange Bowl victory over Virginia Tech? To make matters worse, you know that everyone with even a curiosity about KU was watching that game because it was probably the last time KU will ever be in that position.
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 08, 2010, 01:20:35 PM
Poor kid . . . that post was just an absolute fail on every level.

Sad . . .
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 08, 2010, 01:21:57 PM
Ben is just relegated to parrotting Tardville talking points . . . it has literally been weeks since he had anything original . . . so very sad.

Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: chum1 on June 08, 2010, 01:22:32 PM
The Pac-10 wants Texas and anyone else needed to get Texas.  That's it.  Whether or not KU and KSU are tied together is completely irrelevant.
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: OregonSmock on June 08, 2010, 01:23:22 PM
K-State... the hemorrhoid on the tip of KU's ass crack that just won't go away.  




 :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 08, 2010, 01:25:29 PM
It's times like these where I wish little brother of the poor would have a "go to" sport besides soil judging. 
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 08, 2010, 01:26:16 PM
K-State... the hemorrhoid on the tip of KU's ass crack that just won't go away.  




 :curse:

I would probably feel the same way about KU if you guys had a better season than K-State in... well anything, really. But you didn't.
 :kstatriot:
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 08, 2010, 01:27:03 PM
my favorite part was how he talked about how great baylor was at every sport except football. uh, yeah. that's the problem. you are only good at sports that most people don't care about.
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 08, 2010, 01:27:45 PM
I know I am starting to go with ku and k-state being tied together.  

It's funny how scared $hitless ku is at the thought of trying to go it alone.

Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: FHSU92 on June 08, 2010, 01:28:41 PM
K-State... the hemorrhoid on the tip of KU's ass crack that just won't go away.  

 :curse:

Prolly wouldn't be that way if KU was good in other sports a la Nub and was not full-o-crooks.

Hemorrhoids don't just develop for no reason...either sittin' on yer ass too much or pushin' too hard to dump excrement.  Seems both of which have happened recently with our alma mater wouldenyasay?
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 08, 2010, 01:30:24 PM
my favorite part was how he talked about how great baylor was at every sport except football. uh, yeah. that's the problem. you are only good at sports that most people don't care about.

They aren't even good at most of those. Only men's basketball. Everything else is terrible.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 08, 2010, 01:31:05 PM
Well after 2009-2010 Year of Failure for ku, it's no wonder you guys are lashing out at us so much.

Overall an absolutely pathetic effort by ku athletics in 2009-2010 topped off with FBI/IRS investigations, grand jury inquiries, an AD melting down and a Chancellor begging other schools to stay in the Big 12.

New levels of low self esteem are reached daily by ku and ku fandom at this juncture.

Pathetic and  . . . sad.



Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 08, 2010, 01:33:14 PM
If only K-State had something to show for besides their elite soil judging program.
 


:curse:

Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 08, 2010, 01:34:08 PM
It's times like these where I wish little brother of the poor would have a "go to" sport besides soil judging. 

Somebody told me once that we have a pretty good women's equestrian program. I wouldn't really know, though.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 08, 2010, 01:34:52 PM
I sense an account cancellation coming on . . . stand back kids.

Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 08, 2010, 01:35:14 PM
I don't know why BMW is pissed at us. We should be pissed at KU. After all, they are supposed to be the flagship school of this state. Look at the sweet deal that OU is getting OSU.
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: OregonSmock on June 08, 2010, 01:35:30 PM
my favorite part was how he talked about how great baylor was at every sport except football. uh, yeah. that's the problem. you are only good at sports that most people don't care about.

They aren't even good at most of those. Only men's basketball. Everything else is terrible.




Funny.... in the last few years alone, KU has a BCS Orange Bowl, National Championship, and Big 12 titles in men's basketball, baseball, and softball.
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: Trim on June 08, 2010, 01:38:06 PM
my favorite part was how he talked about how great baylor was at every sport except football. uh, yeah. that's the problem. you are only good at sports that most people don't care about.

They aren't even good at most of those. Only men's basketball. Everything else is terrible.




Funny.... in the last few years alone, KU has a BCS Orange Bowl, National Championship, and Big 12 titles in men's basketball, baseball, and softball.

Yeah, with that resume, it's pretty safe to assume the entire world is wrong about no big conferences wanting ku.
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: I_have_purplewood on June 08, 2010, 01:38:26 PM
my favorite part was how he talked about how great baylor was at every sport except football. uh, yeah. that's the problem. you are only good at sports that most people don't care about.

They aren't even good at most of those. Only men's basketball. Everything else is terrible.

And that has gotten you where?


Funny.... in the last few years alone, KU has a BCS Orange Bowl, National Championship, and Big 12 titles in men's basketball, baseball, and softball.
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 08, 2010, 01:42:30 PM
my favorite part was how he talked about how great baylor was at every sport except football. uh, yeah. that's the problem. you are only good at sports that most people don't care about.

They aren't even good at most of those. Only men's basketball. Everything else is terrible.




Funny.... in the last few years alone, KU has a BCS Orange Bowl, National Championship, and Big 12 titles in men's basketball, baseball, and softball.

Why would another conference care how well your baseball and softball teams performed within the Big 12? How did those teams do in the college ws? Also, don't you guys tell Mizzou fans that only regular season championships count?
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 08, 2010, 01:43:00 PM
2009-2010 ku Year of Failure . . . has really got the poor kid down.

Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: pc5k on June 08, 2010, 01:51:45 PM
my favorite part was how he talked about how great baylor was at every sport except football. uh, yeah. that's the problem. you are only good at sports that most people don't care about.

They aren't even good at most of those. Only men's basketball. Everything else is terrible.




Funny.... in the last few years alone, KU has a BCS Orange Bowl, National Championship, and Big 12 titles in men's basketball, baseball, and softball.

That's the problem dumbass, this is a FOOTBALL and TELEVISION DRIVEN DEAL- One good season of football does nothing, and basketball, baseball, and softball does not matter.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 08, 2010, 01:58:18 PM
Basketball has almost three times as many nationally televised games as football. 
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Winters on June 08, 2010, 01:59:04 PM
Because football games are longer than basketball games  

and mid-week games

 :lol:

Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 08, 2010, 01:59:48 PM
Basketball has almost three times as many nationally televised games as football. 

Your flimsiest attempt yet.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: CNS on June 08, 2010, 02:00:33 PM
Basketball has almost three times as many nationally televised games as football. 

Baseball has a crap load of games too.  So what?
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 08, 2010, 02:04:37 PM
Yeah . . . basketball has 3x's as many national broadcasts and the ku vs k-state was ESPN's 2nd highest rated game with a . . . 1.9 share, that's how watered down it is.

Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 08, 2010, 02:05:14 PM
my favorite part was how he talked about how great baylor was at every sport except football. uh, yeah. that's the problem. you are only good at sports that most people don't care about.

They aren't even good at most of those. Only men's basketball. Everything else is terrible.




Funny.... in the last few years alone, KU has a BCS Orange Bowl, National Championship, and Big 12 titles in men's basketball, baseball, and softball.

It's football, and ku is totally horrid at football.  Why is this so hard for you?  Are you really stupid or just playing the part?
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: OregonSmock on June 08, 2010, 02:09:39 PM
my favorite part was how he talked about how great baylor was at every sport except football. uh, yeah. that's the problem. you are only good at sports that most people don't care about.

They aren't even good at most of those. Only men's basketball. Everything else is terrible.




Funny.... in the last few years alone, KU has a BCS Orange Bowl, National Championship, and Big 12 titles in men's basketball, baseball, and softball.

It's football, and ku is totally horrid at football.  Why is this so hard for you?  Are you really stupid or just playing the part?



KU just won a BCS Bowl two years ago.  K-State is horrid at everything besides soil judging, FWIW.
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 08, 2010, 02:15:23 PM
my favorite part was how he talked about how great baylor was at every sport except football. uh, yeah. that's the problem. you are only good at sports that most people don't care about.

They aren't even good at most of those. Only men's basketball. Everything else is terrible.




Funny.... in the last few years alone, KU has a BCS Orange Bowl, National Championship, and Big 12 titles in men's basketball, baseball, and softball.

It's football, and ku is totally horrid at football.  Why is this so hard for you?  Are you really stupid or just playing the part?



KU just won a BCS Bowl two years ago.  K-State is horrid at everything besides soil judging, FWIW.

You had one total fluke season built on a cream puff schedule and NCAA infractions.  It did ku more harm than good because now ku is synonymous with "one season fluke/NCAA infractions"
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 08, 2010, 02:16:43 PM
my favorite part was how he talked about how great baylor was at every sport except football. uh, yeah. that's the problem. you are only good at sports that most people don't care about.

They aren't even good at most of those. Only men's basketball. Everything else is terrible.




Funny.... in the last few years alone, KU has a BCS Orange Bowl, National Championship, and Big 12 titles in men's basketball, baseball, and softball.

It's football, and ku is totally horrid at football.  Why is this so hard for you?  Are you really stupid or just playing the part?



KU just won a BCS Bowl two years ago.  K-State is horrid at everything besides soil judging, FWIW.

Nobody here thinks the Pac 10 wants K-State, FWIW. Also, you're in extreme denial if you think that the KU football program is currently anything but below average. K-State has never had a Big 12 record as bad as the one that KU posted last year.
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: OregonSmock on June 08, 2010, 02:19:05 PM
my favorite part was how he talked about how great baylor was at every sport except football. uh, yeah. that's the problem. you are only good at sports that most people don't care about.

They aren't even good at most of those. Only men's basketball. Everything else is terrible.




Funny.... in the last few years alone, KU has a BCS Orange Bowl, National Championship, and Big 12 titles in men's basketball, baseball, and softball.

It's football, and ku is totally horrid at football.  Why is this so hard for you?  Are you really stupid or just playing the part?



KU just won a BCS Bowl two years ago.  K-State is horrid at everything besides soil judging, FWIW.

You had one total fluke season built on a cream puff schedule and NCAA infractions.  It did ku more harm than good because now ku is synonymous with "one season fluke/NCAA infractions"



KU won 8 games the next season and finished one game shy of winning the North.



 :dunno:
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: Winters on June 08, 2010, 02:19:39 PM
my favorite part was how he talked about how great baylor was at every sport except football. uh, yeah. that's the problem. you are only good at sports that most people don't care about.

They aren't even good at most of those. Only men's basketball. Everything else is terrible.




Funny.... in the last few years alone, KU has a BCS Orange Bowl, National Championship, and Big 12 titles in men's basketball, baseball, and softball.

It's football, and ku is totally horrid at football.  Why is this so hard for you?  Are you really stupid or just playing the part?



KU just won a BCS Bowl two years ago.  K-State is horrid at everything besides soil judging, FWIW.
Horrible: Starting 5-0 and losing out/ Losing to a horrible team 17-10
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: Winters on June 08, 2010, 02:20:39 PM
my favorite part was how he talked about how great baylor was at every sport except football. uh, yeah. that's the problem. you are only good at sports that most people don't care about.

They aren't even good at most of those. Only men's basketball. Everything else is terrible.




Funny.... in the last few years alone, KU has a BCS Orange Bowl, National Championship, and Big 12 titles in men's basketball, baseball, and softball.

It's football, and ku is totally horrid at football.  Why is this so hard for you?  Are you really stupid or just playing the part?



KU just won a BCS Bowl two years ago.  K-State is horrid at everything besides soil judging, FWIW.

You had one total fluke season built on a cream puff schedule and NCAA infractions.  It did ku more harm than good because now ku is synonymous with "one season fluke/NCAA infractions"



KU won 8 games the next season and finished one game shy of winning the North.



 :dunno:
Too bad you haven't won the north...Like EVER
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: OregonSmock on June 08, 2010, 02:21:43 PM
my favorite part was how he talked about how great baylor was at every sport except football. uh, yeah. that's the problem. you are only good at sports that most people don't care about.

They aren't even good at most of those. Only men's basketball. Everything else is terrible.




Funny.... in the last few years alone, KU has a BCS Orange Bowl, National Championship, and Big 12 titles in men's basketball, baseball, and softball.

It's football, and ku is totally horrid at football.  Why is this so hard for you?  Are you really stupid or just playing the part?



KU just won a BCS Bowl two years ago.  K-State is horrid at everything besides soil judging, FWIW.

You had one total fluke season built on a cream puff schedule and NCAA infractions.  It did ku more harm than good because now ku is synonymous with "one season fluke/NCAA infractions"



KU won 8 games the next season and finished one game shy of winning the North.



 :dunno:
Too bad you haven't won the north...Like EVER




Who gives a crap if you don't win the Big 12? 
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: Winters on June 08, 2010, 02:23:16 PM
my favorite part was how he talked about how great baylor was at every sport except football. uh, yeah. that's the problem. you are only good at sports that most people don't care about.

They aren't even good at most of those. Only men's basketball. Everything else is terrible.




Funny.... in the last few years alone, KU has a BCS Orange Bowl, National Championship, and Big 12 titles in men's basketball, baseball, and softball.

It's football, and ku is totally horrid at football.  Why is this so hard for you?  Are you really stupid or just playing the part?



KU just won a BCS Bowl two years ago.  K-State is horrid at everything besides soil judging, FWIW.

You had one total fluke season built on a cream puff schedule and NCAA infractions.  It did ku more harm than good because now ku is synonymous with "one season fluke/NCAA infractions"



KU won 8 games the next season and finished one game shy of winning the North.



 :dunno:
Too bad you haven't won the north...Like EVER




Who gives a crap if you don't win the Big 12?  
LOL your the one saying you almost won the north. 
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 08, 2010, 02:27:18 PM
Who gives a crap if you don't win the Big 12? 

Winning the north is no real accomplishment. Not being able to win the north just proves that KU and Iowa State are two of the worst BCS football teams in the country and that they should probably be midmajors.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Trim on June 08, 2010, 02:27:30 PM
The expanding conferences don't care about basketball.  They want schools with hardcore football fans, the ones who on New Year's Day will get on their rival's chat and post things like "Today is my Christmas.  I'm watching fball all day man of taste and distinction".
Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: bakerman on June 08, 2010, 02:30:13 PM
my favorite part was how he talked about how great baylor was at every sport except football. uh, yeah. that's the problem. you are only good at sports that most people don't care about.

They aren't even good at most of those. Only men's basketball. Everything else is terrible.




Funny.... in the last few years alone, KU has a BCS Orange Bowl, National Championship, and Big 12 titles in men's basketball, baseball, and softball.

It's football, and ku is totally horrid at football.  Why is this so hard for you?  Are you really stupid or just playing the part?



KU just won a BCS Bowl two years ago.  K-State is horrid at everything besides soil judging, FWIW.

You had one total fluke season built on a cream puff schedule and NCAA infractions.  It did ku more harm than good because now ku is synonymous with "one season fluke/NCAA infractions"



KU won 8 games the next season and finished one game shy of winning the North.



 :dunno:
Too bad you haven't won the north...Like EVER




Who gives a crap if you don't win the Big 12? 

So.... Too bad you haven't won the Big 12 like EVER....   :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 08, 2010, 02:31:43 PM
BIB, calling ku a toxic waste land and trash dump.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 08, 2010, 03:34:17 PM
ku athletics: 2009-2010 Year of Failure . . . maybe one of the single biggest athletic free falls ever . . .now with an AD melting down, a Chancellor begging people to stay in the Big 12 and DOJ/FBI/IRS investigators around every corner in the ku athletic offices.  

Title: Re: K-State is dragging KU down with them
Post by: DOOMsday on June 08, 2010, 03:50:18 PM
my favorite part was how he talked about how great baylor was at every sport except football. uh, yeah. that's the problem. you are only good at sports that most people don't care about.

They aren't even good at most of those. Only men's basketball. Everything else is terrible.




Funny.... in the last few years alone, KU has a BCS Orange Bowl, National Championship, and Big 12 titles in men's basketball, baseball, and softball.

wow, not bad for a mid-major! Keep it up!
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 08, 2010, 04:46:02 PM
ku athletics: 2009-2010 Year of Failure . . . maybe one of the single biggest athletic free falls ever . . .now with an AD melting down, a Chancellor begging people to stay in the Big 12 and DOJ/FBI/IRS investigators around every corner in the ku athletic offices.  






Yet, amazingly enough, KU has two more Big 12 championship trophies to add to the collection, while K-State has nothing to show for in its "best year ever."
 



:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 08, 2010, 04:49:28 PM
ku athletics: 2009-2010 Year of Failure . . . maybe one of the single biggest athletic free falls ever . . .now with an AD melting down, a Chancellor begging people to stay in the Big 12 and DOJ/FBI/IRS investigators around every corner in the ku athletic offices.  






Yet, amazingly enough, KU has two more Big 12 championship trophies to add to the collection, while K-State has nothing to show for in its "best year ever."
 



:lol:

eerily similar to 2008 ku football.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 08, 2010, 04:52:39 PM
ku athletics: 2009-2010 Year of Failure . . . maybe one of the single biggest athletic free falls ever . . .now with an AD melting down, a Chancellor begging people to stay in the Big 12 and DOJ/FBI/IRS investigators around every corner in the ku athletic offices.  






Yet, amazingly enough, KU has two more Big 12 championship trophies to add to the collection, while K-State has nothing to show for in its "best year ever."
 



:lol:

eerily similar to 2008 ku football.




2008 KU football added a nice shiny BCS Orange Bowl trophy to the collection.  Maybe next time?
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: DOOMsday on June 08, 2010, 04:56:35 PM
ku athletics: 2009-2010 Year of Failure . . . maybe one of the single biggest athletic free falls ever . . .now with an AD melting down, a Chancellor begging people to stay in the Big 12 and DOJ/FBI/IRS investigators around every corner in the ku athletic offices.  






Yet, amazingly enough, KU has two more Big 12 championship trophies to add to the collection, while K-State has nothing to show for in its "best year ever."
 



:lol:

eerily similar to 2008 ku football.




2008 KU football added a nice shiny BCS Orange Bowl trophy to the collection.  Maybe next time?

That nice shiny trophy is really helping them in conference expansion now, isn't it?
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: pc5k on June 08, 2010, 05:10:46 PM
ku athletics: 2009-2010 Year of Failure . . . maybe one of the single biggest athletic free falls ever . . .now with an AD melting down, a Chancellor begging people to stay in the Big 12 and DOJ/FBI/IRS investigators around every corner in the ku athletic offices.  






Yet, amazingly enough, KU has two more Big 12 championship trophies to add to the collection, while K-State has nothing to show for in its "best year ever."
 



:lol:

eerily similar to 2008 ku football.




2008 KU football added a nice shiny BCS Orange Bowl trophy to the collection.  Maybe next time?

That nice shiny trophy is really helping them in conference expansion now, isn't it?

I bet it's helping them with the ticket scandal too.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: BMWWcat on June 08, 2010, 05:35:21 PM
did the coach that won that trophy of oranges get fired?

I keep reading a lame-ass comeback that we are only good in soil judging, well is ku good in anything other than basketball?  And I'm talking like top-10 good year-in/year-out.

Our Architecture program is one of the best in the country.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 09, 2010, 10:39:28 AM
ku athletics: 2009-2010 Year of Failure . . . maybe one of the single biggest athletic free falls ever . . .now with an AD melting down, a Chancellor begging people to stay in the Big 12 and DOJ/FBI/IRS investigators around every corner in the ku athletic offices.  






Yet, amazingly enough, KU has two more Big 12 championship trophies to add to the collection, while K-State has nothing to show for in its "best year ever."
 



:lol:

eerily similar to 2008 ku football.




2008 KU football added a nice shiny BCS Orange Bowl trophy to the collection.  Maybe next time?

Yet still couldn't even win the north.  It almost sounds impossible to believe, best season EVER and couldn't even win their division, let alon conference?  KSU has done that 3 times for crap's sake.

I'd say making the elite 8 is as good as a BCS bowl so, fail.  You are just a shell.  You can only blame yourself for hopping on the ku football wagon that everyone in the country could see was built on smoke and mirrors and cheating.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 09, 2010, 11:43:53 AM
ku athletics: 2009-2010 Year of Failure . . . maybe one of the single biggest athletic free falls ever . . .now with an AD melting down, a Chancellor begging people to stay in the Big 12 and DOJ/FBI/IRS investigators around every corner in the ku athletic offices.  






Yet, amazingly enough, KU has two more Big 12 championship trophies to add to the collection, while K-State has nothing to show for in its "best year ever."
 



:lol:

Nobody at K-State is claiming it was the "Best year ever" Ben . . . that's the point dumbass.

Again 2009-2010 KU: Season of Fail has you lashing out even more lately. 

Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 09, 2010, 11:50:29 AM
ku athletics: 2009-2010 Year of Failure . . . maybe one of the single biggest athletic free falls ever . . .now with an AD melting down, a Chancellor begging people to stay in the Big 12 and DOJ/FBI/IRS investigators around every corner in the ku athletic offices.  






Yet, amazingly enough, KU has two more Big 12 championship trophies to add to the collection, while K-State has nothing to show for in its "best year ever."
 



:lol:

Nobody at K-State is claiming it was the "Best year ever" Ben . . . that's the point dumbass.

Again 2009-2010 KU: Season of Fail has you lashing out even more lately. 





Actually, the point is that even in a "season of fail," KU has more Big 12 titles to show for than K-State.  Pretty sad, really.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 09, 2010, 11:54:13 AM
ku athletics: 2009-2010 Year of Failure . . . maybe one of the single biggest athletic free falls ever . . .now with an AD melting down, a Chancellor begging people to stay in the Big 12 and DOJ/FBI/IRS investigators around every corner in the ku athletic offices.  






Yet, amazingly enough, KU has two more Big 12 championship trophies to add to the collection, while K-State has nothing to show for in its "best year ever."
 



:lol:

Nobody at K-State is claiming it was the "Best year ever" Ben . . . that's the point dumbass.

Again 2009-2010 KU: Season of Fail has you lashing out even more lately. 





Actually, the point is that even in a "season of fail," KU has more Big 12 titles to show for than K-State.  Pretty sad, really.

You do realize that those Big 12 titles are about to become just as relevant as your Helms titles, right?
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 09, 2010, 12:10:18 PM
All those Big 12 titles and nobody wants ku . . . poor Tardville.

Cue . . . more Bentard "perception is reality" . . . in 3, 2, 1 . . .

Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 09, 2010, 12:14:17 PM
All those Big 12 titles and nobody wants ku . . . poor Tardville.

Cue . . . more Bentard "perception is reality" . . . in 3, 2, 1 . . .






Plenty of conferences would love to have KU... it's just K-State that's holding us back. 
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: FHSU92 on June 09, 2010, 12:19:44 PM
All those Big 12 titles and nobody wants ku . . . poor Tardville.

Cue . . . more Bentard "perception is reality" . . . in 3, 2, 1 . . .






Plenty of conferences would love to have KU... it's just K-State Kansas that's holding us back. 


It's not K-State per se', it's just that there are 2 D1 programs in a rural state. Same can be said that KU is holding K-State back.  Fact is, KU fans won't really watch KU games and vice versa, so the # of TV's KU or KSU could sell is limited.  Amazing that you haven't figured that out yet, maybe you should listen more to what Seff has said the past few days.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 09, 2010, 12:22:10 PM
All those Big 12 titles and nobody wants ku . . . poor Tardville.

Cue . . . more Bentard "perception is reality" . . . in 3, 2, 1 . . .






Plenty of conferences would love to have KU... it's just K-State Kansas that's holding us back. 


It's not K-State per se', it's just that there are 2 D1 programs in a rural state. Same can be said that KU is holding K-State back.  Fact is, KU fans won't really watch KU games and vice versa, so the # of TV's KU or KSU could sell is limited.  Amazing that you haven't figured that out yet, maybe you should listen more to what Seff has said the past few days.



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Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 09, 2010, 12:31:18 PM
All those Big 12 titles and nobody wants ku . . . poor Tardville.

Cue . . . more Bentard "perception is reality" . . . in 3, 2, 1 . . .






Plenty of conferences would love to have KU... it's just K-State that's holding us back . . . and that's what we tell ourselves every night before we try and go to sleep . . . it makes us feel better

FYP

Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 09, 2010, 12:35:16 PM
All those Big 12 titles and nobody wants ku . . . poor Tardville.

Cue . . . more Bentard "perception is reality" . . . in 3, 2, 1 . . .






Plenty of conferences would love to have KU... it's just K-State that's holding us back . . . and that's what we tell ourselves every night before we try and go to sleep . . . it makes us feel better

FYP





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Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 09, 2010, 12:36:38 PM
Tap out noted . . . sad.

Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: bakerman on June 09, 2010, 12:43:14 PM
you have a lot of pictures of fat, bald, old guys holding giant fish..... Fetish?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: EMAWzified on June 09, 2010, 12:55:35 PM
If by plenty of conferences, you mean Mountain West, Missouri Valley, Ohio Valley, etc. then yes.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 09, 2010, 01:01:47 PM
If by plenty of conferences, you mean Mountain West, Missouri Valley, Ohio Valley, etc. then yes.



The Big East would take KU in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OK_Cat on June 09, 2010, 01:04:18 PM
If by plenty of conferences, you mean Mountain West, Missouri Valley, Ohio Valley, etc. then yes.



The Big East would take KU in a heartbeat.

 :lol:   just face it, dude....KU is just as screwed as KSU in this whole thing.  The quicker you realize that, the easier it'll be on you.  Realignment is all about the # of tvs in the viewing area, and nobody gives a crap about Wichita/Topeka/Kansas City.   Neither school has anything to offer.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 09, 2010, 01:10:18 PM
If by plenty of conferences, you mean Mountain West, Missouri Valley, Ohio Valley, etc. then yes.



The Big East would take KU in a heartbeat.

LOL.  Another beems tall tale.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: CNS on June 09, 2010, 01:14:03 PM
Seriously, am I the only one not hearing the rumors about conferences wanting KU? 

I don't know what is more entertaining, the crap made up in Lawrence lately, or the panic that is causing them to make the crap up.  Either way, it is entertaining as hell to watch.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 09, 2010, 01:17:23 PM
Seriously, am I the only one not hearing the rumors about conferences wanting KU? 

I don't know what is more entertaining, the crap made up in Lawrence lately, or the panic that is causing them to make the crap up.  Either way, it is entertaining as hell to watch.

Seriously.  Some dude jumped off the Oread he was so upset that the nation thinks so little of ku.  Getting mighty tense in Lawrence.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: EMAWzified on June 09, 2010, 01:22:12 PM
When this is all over the Big East relevant as the Big 12.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: FHSU92 on June 09, 2010, 01:38:38 PM
Seriously, am I the only one not hearing the rumors about conferences wanting KU? 

I don't know what is more entertaining, the crap made up in Lawrence lately, or the panic that is causing them to make the crap up.  Either way, it is entertaining as hell to watch.

Seriously.  Some dude jumped off the Oread he was so upset that the nation thinks so little of ku.  Getting mighty tense in Lawrence.

Had to start killing themselves since all the homeless moved to Lincoln and Columbia.  The good part is is that homeless leaving does not affect our state TV #'s.
Title: Kietzman: BITB
Post by: OregonSmock on June 09, 2010, 02:57:55 PM
Kietz just said that K-State's best chance of getting into a BCS conference, after everything shakes out, is to attach itself to KU.  He said that KU would most likely get interest from conferences like the Big East and ACC.  This is basically what I've been trying to tell you guys for the past week.



 :dunno:
Title: Re: Kietzman: BITB
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 09, 2010, 02:59:08 PM
Kietz just said that K-State's best chance of getting into a BCS conference, after everything shakes out, is to attach itself to KU.  He said that KU would most likely get interest from conferences like the Big East and ACC.  This is basically what I've been trying to tell you guys for the past week.



 :dunno:


Actually, you've been trying to tell us that we are already attached. This would imply that we are not.
Title: Re: Kietzman: BITB
Post by: yosh on June 09, 2010, 03:00:14 PM
We're already in a BCS conference.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Kietzman: BITB
Post by: OregonSmock on June 09, 2010, 03:04:04 PM
Kietzman:  "I think Kansas and Missouri have a really good chance of catching on somewhere, but K-State might be on the bubble.  Their best bet is to attach themselves to Kansas."
 


:surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Cire on June 09, 2010, 03:09:28 PM
Yeah kk said the opposite of what beems has been saying
Title: Re: Kietzman: BITB
Post by: DOOMsday on June 09, 2010, 03:11:09 PM
Kietzman:  "I think Kansas and Missouri have a really good chance of catching on somewhere, but K-State might be on the bubble.  Their best bet is to attach themselves to Kansas."
 


:surprised:


If the perception is that KSU is a package deal with ku, wouldn't they also believe that we run the same kind of corrupt program?

Perception is reality, am I right?
Title: Re: Kietzman: BITB
Post by: EllToPay on June 09, 2010, 03:12:54 PM
Kietz just said that K-State's best chance of getting into a BCS conference, after everything shakes out, is to attach itself to KU.  He said that KU would most likely get interest from conferences like the Big East and ACC.  This is basically what I've been trying to tell you guys for the past week.



 :dunno:


you would get absolutely destroyed every year in the acc.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 09, 2010, 03:20:11 PM
So tardville makes fun of everything that Keitzman says . . . then Keitzman (who doesn't really know $hit when it comes to K-State) says that about K-State's "best bet" and Tardville's chief parrot runs over here with it.

Classic.

Title: Re: Kietzman: BITB
Post by: Brock Landers on June 09, 2010, 03:23:08 PM
Kietz just said that K-State's best chance of getting into a BCS conference, after everything shakes out, is to attach itself to KU.  He said that KU would most likely get interest from conferences like the Big East and ACC.  This is basically what I've been trying to tell you guys for the past week.



 :dunno:



I thought all you Tardville guys hated Kietzman.  Now you're listening to his show, believing everything he says, and quoting him on a KSU message board??   This, my friends is exactly why Kietz is the BITB.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: LickNeckey on June 09, 2010, 03:26:19 PM
let KU go to the Big East/ACC 1 Ben will be able to move on with his life and not have to spend all of his free time reminding us that we are not rivals besides....

MWC > ACC imo

football is driving all of this remember nobody gives a hullabaloo about hoops (talking to you ACC/Big East)

TCU
Houston
Boise
Utah
BYU
KSU
Colorado (when PAC 10 takes baylor to get the tejas sisterhood)
CSU
Nevada

these teams as a football core would be just as strong as anything offered by Big East/ACC
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: mcmwcat on June 09, 2010, 03:35:26 PM
Yeah kk said the opposite of what beems has been saying

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who cares less about their credibility BMWJhawk or BITB?  mods should change BMWJhawk's handle to BITBJhawk.

love ya beems.  you and royalswild
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 09, 2010, 04:18:36 PM
So how does it feel to be the dingleberry attached to KU's ass crack?
 



:confused:


Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: dmartin on June 09, 2010, 04:20:56 PM
if KU moves to the ACC or Big East, do they get to take the big XII basketball refs with them?  We've seen how they do without them.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 09, 2010, 04:24:17 PM
if KU moves to the ACC or Big East, do they get to take the big XII basketball refs with them?  We've seen how they do without them.



The last time KU played an ACC team in the tournament, they won by 18 points (UNC in '08 Final Four). 
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: yosh on June 09, 2010, 04:27:46 PM
let KU go to the Big East/ACC 1 Ben will be able to move on with his life and not have to spend all of his free time reminding us that we are not rivals besides....

MWC > ACC imo

football is driving all of this remember nobody gives a hullabaloo about hoops (talking to you ACC/Big East)

TCU
Houston
Boise
Utah
BYU
KSU
Colorado (when PAC 10 takes baylor to get the tejas sisterhood)
CSU
Nevada

these teams as a football core would be just as strong as anything offered by Big East/ACC

add KU, Missou and ISU and keep the big 12 name.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: FHSU92 on June 09, 2010, 04:31:47 PM
So how does it feel to be the dingleberry attached to KU's ass crack?


:confused:


Def would rather be dangling from OSU or Baylor, much better options than what KU has to offer.  Seff is wishing he were dangling from OSU, too.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 09, 2010, 04:35:32 PM
So how does it feel to be the dingleberry attached to KU's ass crack?


:confused:


Def would rather be dangling from OSU or Baylor, much better options than what KU has to offer.  Seff is wishing he were dangling from OSU, too.

No kidding. For a "flagship school" that has to carry K-State's load, KU sure does a shitty job.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 09, 2010, 05:24:27 PM
So how does it feel to be the dingleberry attached to KU's ass crack?


:confused:


Def would rather be dangling from OSU or Baylor, much better options than what KU has to offer.  Seff is wishing he were dangling from OSU, too.



wut
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: steve dave on June 09, 2010, 06:15:21 PM
Quote
mellinger
 
Man, everything #KU touches these days turns to hell. Glad I never picked up my degree. Thing would probably catch on fire
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: steve dave on June 09, 2010, 06:18:11 PM
Quote
bobfescoe
Also heard: Self's first choice would be Pac 10, not really a second choice anywhere.
less than a minute ago via web
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Scary Smart on June 09, 2010, 06:19:41 PM
Quote
mellinger
 
Man, everything #KU touches these days turns to hell. Glad I never picked up my degree. Thing would probably catch on fire

LOL
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: OregonSmock on June 09, 2010, 06:23:00 PM
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Kietzman -  

K-State's best chance of making it to a BCS conference is to cling to KU's nut sack and hold on for dear life.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: PowercatPat on June 09, 2010, 06:27:30 PM
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Also heard: Self's first choice would be Pac 10, not really a second choice anywhere.
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What basketball coach wouldn't want to go to the Pac 10 right now? That conference is so bad at bball it's not even funny.
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 09, 2010, 07:27:12 PM
Kevin Keitzman . . . least knowledgable of all that's been quoted . . . best drama though, thus BITB.

Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Andy on June 09, 2010, 09:30:06 PM
So how does it feel to be the dingleberry attached to KU's ass crack?


:confused:


Def would rather be dangling from OSU or Baylor, much better options than what KU has to offer.  Seff is wishing he were dangling from OSU, too.

how much is seff regretting not taking the OSU job now
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: chum1 on June 09, 2010, 09:32:18 PM
how much is seff regretting not taking the OSU job now

It (along with a fortune) is his anytime he wants it, though, right?
Title: Re: Kansas Completely Irrelevant
Post by: Andy on June 09, 2010, 09:35:18 PM
how much is seff regretting not taking the OSU job now

It (along with a fortune) is his anytime he wants it, though, right?

i've heard that too.  just would have been a cleaner move back then than having to push out Travis Ford now.