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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: steve dave on May 20, 2010, 03:34:59 PM
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http://gizmodo.com/5543822/what-is-google-tv
So, this just made HTPCs obsolete, right?
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Man, I'm pretty paranoid about google since reading this article a few days ago.
http://www.cracked.com/article_18540_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-google.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_18540_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-google.html)
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Besides phone integration, it sounds just like Boxee.
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Besides phone integration, it sounds just like Boxee.
Sorry about your HTPC bro :embarrassed: If it makes you feel better my WDTVLive just got kicked to the curb as well.
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Besides phone integration, it sounds just like Boxee.
Sorry about your HTPC bro :embarrassed: If it makes you feel better my WDTVLive just got kicked to the curb as well.
My HTPC will always stay current though. When Hulu decides to cancel support for GoogleTV like it has about 3 other set top boxes, then you're boned.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diTpeYoqAhc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diTpeYoqAhc)
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Besides phone integration, it sounds just like Boxee.
Sorry about your HTPC bro :embarrassed: If it makes you feel better my WDTVLive just got kicked to the curb as well.
My HTPC will always stay current though. When Hulu decides to cancel support for GoogleTV like it has about 3 other set top boxes, then you're boned.
Yeah, I understand your anger. It sucks. It's like buying a Corvette and then the 7000% better and much cheaper Corvette 2 gets introduced. Let it out. I'm here man.
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Doesn't look terribly innovative, but does look dumbed down enough for the "average steve dave" :dunno:
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Doesn't look terribly innovative, but does look dumbed down enough for the "average steve dave" :dunno:
And really, isn't that what's important?
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Doesn't look terribly innovative, but does look dumbed down enough for the "average steve dave" :dunno:
And really, isn't that what's important?
I'm wary of google, in a pissclams sodium sort of way. Seems like they are widening their grasp over technology a tad too much.
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Doesn't look terribly innovative, but does look dumbed down enough for the "average steve dave" :dunno:
And really, isn't that what's important?
I'm wary of google, in a pissclams sodium sort of way. Seems like they are widening their grasp over technology a tad too much.
Yeah, apple/google/microsoft/etc. are all scary....whatevs
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Doesn't look terribly innovative, but does look dumbed down enough for the "average steve dave" :dunno:
And really, isn't that what's important?
I'm wary of google, in a pissclams sodium sort of way. Seems like they are widening their grasp over technology a tad too much.
Yeah, apple/google/microsoft/etc. are all scary....whatevs
Not scary, just remember how Microsoft was in the 90's. It became a pain in the ass to manage their technology. They weren't especially good at one thing, just had their hands in lots of different things.
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Hasn't Google pretty much been the opposite of Microsoft in terms of their stuff not being a pain in the ass?
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Besides phone integration, it sounds just like Boxee.
Sorry about your HTPC bro :embarrassed: If it makes you feel better my WDTVLive just got kicked to the curb as well.
My HTPC will always stay current though. When Hulu decides to cancel support for GoogleTV like it has about 3 other set top boxes, then you're boned.
Yeah, I understand your anger. It sucks. It's like buying a Corvette and then the 7000% better and much cheaper Corvette 2 gets introduced. Let it out. I'm here man.
You sound just like BMW.
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Besides phone integration, it sounds just like Boxee.
Sorry about your HTPC bro :embarrassed: If it makes you feel better my WDTVLive just got kicked to the curb as well.
My HTPC will always stay current though. When Hulu decides to cancel support for GoogleTV like it has about 3 other set top boxes, then you're boned.
Yeah, I understand your anger. It sucks. It's like buying a Corvette and then the 7000% better and much cheaper Corvette 2 gets introduced. Let it out. I'm here man.
You sound just like BMW.
Yeah bro, vent it all out.
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Besides phone integration, it sounds just like Boxee.
Sorry about your HTPC bro :embarrassed: If it makes you feel better my WDTVLive just got kicked to the curb as well.
My HTPC will always stay current though. When Hulu decides to cancel support for GoogleTV like it has about 3 other set top boxes, then you're boned.
Yeah, I understand your anger. It sucks. It's like buying a Corvette and then the 7000% better and much cheaper Corvette 2 gets introduced. Let it out. I'm here man.
The obsession with KU football is at an all-time high. I guess that's what happens when your football program goes to one bowl in six years.
:lol:
Seems like you're getting awfully defensive over nothing. All I did was post an article that put a different perspective on the Big 10 expansion. Sorry if it gets your panties in a wad that KU is a national power, while K-State is not.
Man, I love projecting emotions/actions onto other people!
Besides, here is Googletv 1.0 http://www.boxee.tv/
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You could probably still sell your HTPC to someone who has been out of the country for the last couple days and hasn't heard about Google TV yet :dunno:
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Doesn't look terribly innovative, but does look dumbed down enough for the "average steve dave" :dunno:
And really, isn't that what's important?
I'm wary of google, in a pissclams sodium sort of way. Seems like they are widening their grasp over technology a tad too much.
Yeah, apple/google/microsoft/etc. are all scary....whatevs
Not scary, just remember how Microsoft was in the 90's. It became a pain in the ass to manage their technology. They weren't especially good at one thing, just had their hands in lots of different things.
"Weren't especially good at one thing"? Dude, Win95 was incred.
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You could probably still sell your HTPC to someone who has been out of the country for the last couple days and hasn't heard about Google TV yet :dunno:
http://newteevee.com/2010/05/20/the-unanswered-questions-about-google-tv/
Have fun with that.
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Just talked to my 80 year old grandfather and he said he's ditching his dusty old HTPC and getting Google TV. I would shoot for maybe a really young kid to unload yours to as the old people market seems to be onto the scent.
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http://mashable.com/2010/05/20/hulu-google-tv-android/
Revolutionary!
http://www.androidcentral.com/hulu-google-tv-only-if-hulu-wants-it
Magical!!!
http://blogs.forbes.com/velocity/2010/05/20/so-how-long-before-hulu-blocks-google-tv/
So awesome!!!!
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Just saw the neighbor kid running over his HTPC in the driveway with his Big Wheel, looks like the little kid market is done.
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Have fun with your slighty overpowered DVR
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Just had an idea, you could sell your HTPC to a caveman
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Do cavemen have a need for awesome features for unlimited internet connectivity to their tv? If so, I may.
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You know what's fun? Being able to do anything I want on my tv very easily with a plethora of choices of programs. You know what's not fun? upscaling programs meant for a phone to 1080p and not getting promised functionality.
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Another person who may want some really outdated technology is that Gorilla that can do sign language. You could sell it to her/him.
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GOOGLETV HAS PANDORA!!!!! REVOLUTIONARY!!!!!!!
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I'll buy your HTPC!
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Can't play Super Mario Brothers 3 on it. :dunno:
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I'll buy your HTPC!
:lol:
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I'll buy your HTPC!
:facepalm:
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You know what's fun? Being able to do anything I want on my tv very easily with a plethora of choices of programs. You know what's not fun? upscaling programs meant for a phone to 1080p and not getting promised functionality.
Have any of these STBs ever done espn360?
I have dabbled with HTPCs -mainly hooking up a desktop in a home office to a big tv in another room - but the payoff was never worth the trouble. It seemed the most worthwhile when downloading network shows when Kate Horner would preempt what I wanted to watch.
HTPC guys, what are some of the most worthwhile things you use it for?
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HTPC guys, what are some of the most worthwhile things you use it for?
If you are very short you can use it to sit on :dunno:
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HTPC guys, what are some of the most worthwhile things you use it for?
If you are very short you can use it to sit on :dunno:
:lol:
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You know what's fun? Being able to do anything I want on my tv very easily with a plethora of choices of programs. You know what's not fun? upscaling programs meant for a phone to 1080p and not getting promised functionality.
Have any of these STBs ever done espn360?
I have dabbled with HTPCs -mainly hooking up a desktop in a home office to a big tv in another room - but the payoff was never worth the trouble. It seemed the most worthwhile when downloading network shows when Kate Horner would preempt what I wanted to watch.
HTPC guys, what are some of the most worthwhile things you use it for?
Besides sitting on it, I stream stuff to my tv (hulu, 360, boxee, channelsurfing.net, etc), stream music to it, have pandora and last.fm, netflix, i use it for mapping directions/printing directions, playing games (mainly roms), use it as a DVR, recorded shows get saved on my windows home server box which I can stream anywhere (any other PC on the internet, my phone, etc), i look up recipes on it.
Right now, it's the only way to get Hulu on your tv as they block everything under the sun. That's its biggest draw for me really. So I could have gotten a set top box, but instead I spent $245 and built my own HTPC. Since it's a PC, it can do anything I want it to, despite the content constantly evolving. And since it's low power, and always on, it's easy to grab the remote I got for it, search for whatever you need (recipes/directions), click, print, and go.
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recorded shows get saved on my windows home server box which I can stream anywhere (any other PC on the internet, my phone, etc), i look up recipes on it.
What kind of quality do you get with this? Do you have to stream it to a laptop or can you download it?
Basically, if you DVR a cats game that is in HD at home and you want to watch it on vaca with a laptop hooked up to a 50"+ HDTV, is the quality better than watching on espn360? Can you even capture in HD (other than OTA?)
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You can capture in HD. I do 1080i. I have Windows Media Center downsample it to my phone's resolution usually. When I want to watch a full 1080i broadcast streamed, I usually just copy it over to where I want to watch it instead of trying to stream it. Windows Home Server creates a website that makes it super easy to remote desktop in and do what you need to. Quality is whatever your input is like. If you're getting OTA HD, it will look just like it. Your internet speed will determine if you can transfer 1080i size files smoothly. I think you can capture some cable with a standard cable card. It depends on if the cable provider encrypts it or not.
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I mostly use it to support the rear corner of the couch in my garage. I originally used a phonebook from the late 90s to do this, but I was thinking that phonebook may come in handy some day so I wanted to make it more accessable.
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I mostly use it to support the rear corner of the couch in my garage. I originally used a phonebook from the late 90s to do this, but I was thinking that phonebook may come in handy some day so I wanted to make it more accessable.
jtksu keeping it green. why fill in a landfill when you can find an actual viable use for it?
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ew2x4, just talked to my neighbor and he said he was looking for a HTPC for a white elephant gag gift. Maybe you guys should talk and work out a deal. the white elephant $ limit is $5 so you could make more than we thought. I would jump at this before he talks to jtksu.
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Yeah, I'd totally let mine go for a (fullsize!) Wichita phonebook from any year after 1998. Oh, and he would have to hold the couch while I made the swap.
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20005643-1.html?tag=mncol;title
OMG, LOL
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20005643-1.html?tag=mncol;title
OMG, LOL
I tried out PlayOn and it was utter garbage. Not to mention Hulu blocks it about every other week.
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Discovered a mouse had spent some time living in my old couch leg unit. Apparently, it was even too obsolete for a damn mouse, cause he packed his crap up and moved it into a empty shoebox in the other corner of the room.
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20005643-1.html?tag=mncol;title
OMG, LOL
I tried out PlayOn and it was utter garbage. Not to mention Hulu blocks it about every other week.
I've had PlayOn since beta and haven't had too many issues with it.
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i love PlayOn, been using it since it was beta too and have 0 problems
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i recently converted my HTPC into anvil that i use when i'm doing metal working.
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ew2x4, I thought of another idea for how to unload your POS antiquated HTPC. A time machine.
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could paint it camoflague and use it to sit on in his duck blind when duck hunting
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If you have enemies and you live on a really high floor you could paint a big red X on the ground and drop your shitty HTPC on them from your window as they passed by over the X.
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If you have enemies and you live on a really high floor you could paint a big red X on the ground and drop your shitty HTPC on them from your window as they passed by over the X.
don't forget to compensate for wind, and the time it takes to fall.
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It's not really a HTPC if it's not even located in the same room as your home theater. :shy:
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You could throw that POS down the oil leak hole in the Gulf and try to plug it :dunno:
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How heavy are these things? My balcony is ridiculously windy and my grill is constantly getting shifted around. I was thinking of getting some cinder blocks and setting up a half-square around the grill to keep it in it's place against the wall, but if I can get enough of these HTPC things, those might work too. :dunno:
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How heavy are these things? My balcony is ridiculously windy and my grill is constantly getting shifted around. I was thinking of getting some cinder blocks and setting up a half-square around the grill to keep it in it's place against the wall, but if I can get enough of these HTPC things, those might work too. :dunno:
Very tiny. Unnoticeable in your home theater.
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How heavy are these things? My balcony is ridiculously windy and my grill is constantly getting shifted around. I was thinking of getting some cinder blocks and setting up a half-square around the grill to keep it in it's place against the wall, but if I can get enough of these HTPC things, those might work too. :dunno:
They are enormous. Probably too much weight for your balcony to hold.
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How heavy are these things? My balcony is ridiculously windy and my grill is constantly getting shifted around. I was thinking of getting some cinder blocks and setting up a half-square around the grill to keep it in it's place against the wall, but if I can get enough of these HTPC things, those might work too. :dunno:
Very tiny. Unnoticeable in your home theater.
So I'd need like 20 of them? 30? The cinder blocks are only a couple bucks each and I'd probably need 8 of them.
How heavy are these things? My balcony is ridiculously windy and my grill is constantly getting shifted around. I was thinking of getting some cinder blocks and setting up a half-square around the grill to keep it in it's place against the wall, but if I can get enough of these HTPC things, those might work too. :dunno:
They are enormous. Probably too much weight for your balcony to hold.
We're talking about the cement balcony that's on the second level of my condo building but nearly ground level with the surface to the west where all the train/overpass stuff is. Not some shitty college apartment wood balcony.
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They are enormous. Probably too much weight for your balcony to hold.
We're talking about the cement balcony that's on the second level of my condo building but nearly ground level with the surface to the west where all the train/overpass stuff is. Not some shitty college apartment wood balcony.
Hmm, sounds like it could support one. One will be plenty to keep your grill in place or put your car up for a quick tire change (if you can stand the noise and heat that they create)
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How heavy are these things? My balcony is ridiculously windy and my grill is constantly getting shifted around. I was thinking of getting some cinder blocks and setting up a half-square around the grill to keep it in it's place against the wall, but if I can get enough of these HTPC things, those might work too. :dunno:
Very tiny. Unnoticeable in your home theater.
So I'd need like 20 of them? 30? The cinder blocks are only a couple bucks each and I'd probably need 8 of them.
How heavy are these things? My balcony is ridiculously windy and my grill is constantly getting shifted around. I was thinking of getting some cinder blocks and setting up a half-square around the grill to keep it in it's place against the wall, but if I can get enough of these HTPC things, those might work too. :dunno:
They are enormous. Probably too much weight for your balcony to hold.
We're talking about the cement balcony that's on the second level of my condo building but nearly ground level with the surface to the west where all the train/overpass stuff is. Not some shitty college apartment wood balcony.
It's concrete, not cement.
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You could throw that POS down the oil leak hole in the Gulf and try to plug it :dunno:
It would plug the hole, no doubt, but it might be so large that it causes the sea level to rise and submerge Florida. Probably not a good idea.
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How heavy are these things? My balcony is ridiculously windy and my grill is constantly getting shifted around. I was thinking of getting some cinder blocks and setting up a half-square around the grill to keep it in it's place against the wall, but if I can get enough of these HTPC things, those might work too. :dunno:
Very tiny. Unnoticeable in your home theater.
So I'd need like 20 of them? 30? The cinder blocks are only a couple bucks each and I'd probably need 8 of them.
How heavy are these things? My balcony is ridiculously windy and my grill is constantly getting shifted around. I was thinking of getting some cinder blocks and setting up a half-square around the grill to keep it in it's place against the wall, but if I can get enough of these HTPC things, those might work too. :dunno:
They are enormous. Probably too much weight for your balcony to hold.
We're talking about the cement balcony that's on the second level of my condo building but nearly ground level with the surface to the west where all the train/overpass stuff is. Not some shitty college apartment wood balcony.
It's concrete, not cement.
Right. So how much per HTPC block?
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How heavy are these things? My balcony is ridiculously windy and my grill is constantly getting shifted around. I was thinking of getting some cinder blocks and setting up a half-square around the grill to keep it in it's place against the wall, but if I can get enough of these HTPC things, those might work too. :dunno:
Very tiny. Unnoticeable in your home theater.
So I'd need like 20 of them? 30? The cinder blocks are only a couple bucks each and I'd probably need 8 of them.
How heavy are these things? My balcony is ridiculously windy and my grill is constantly getting shifted around. I was thinking of getting some cinder blocks and setting up a half-square around the grill to keep it in it's place against the wall, but if I can get enough of these HTPC things, those might work too. :dunno:
They are enormous. Probably too much weight for your balcony to hold.
We're talking about the cement balcony that's on the second level of my condo building but nearly ground level with the surface to the west where all the train/overpass stuff is. Not some shitty college apartment wood balcony.
It's concrete, not cement.
Right. So how much per HTPC block?
there's a stain type thing that you can get at home depot if you don't want them to just look like regular cement htpc blocks. my wifes dad poured some on their new patio three years ago. it still looks good. pm if you want more info.
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bump. getting very :excited: for this. buying a new tv soon but want one that's google tv enabled
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bump. getting very :excited: for this. buying a new tv soon but want one that's google tv enabled
It's pretty much dying before it's getting released. Nobody wants to be a part of it.
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bump. getting very :excited: for this. buying a new tv soon but want one that's google tv enabled
It's pretty much dying before it's getting released. Nobody wants to be a part of it.
Link?
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Hey guys, the kid next door who's in a wheelchair and is 7 years old is trying to raise money for a surgery and is selling his great grandfather's HTPC for $10. He's sold a ton of hand drawn pictures and some poems he wrote in limerick form but he just cannot unload this HTPC. I kinda feel bad for him but I don't want to throw $10 down the drain. Thinking of asking him if he's planning on pulling the colors out and cranking out one of those drawings he's been selling for $50 a pop so I can do my part.
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Boxee pre-orders start today
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/13/boxee-box-ditches-nvidias-tegra-2-for-intel-ce4100-pre-orders/
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bump. getting very :excited: for this. buying a new tv soon but want one that's google tv enabled
It's pretty much dying before it's getting released. Nobody wants to be a part of it.
Link?
Logitech is about the only partner left with the project. They seem confident in it, but its making people uneasy since everyone else backed out. don't remember where i saw it. probably gizmodo or something. Boxee tv will be quality. If you don't already have an HTPC that is.
Hey SD, what do you use to watch Hulu on your tv? Since your pos WDtv thing can't do it, you might want to check into the $10 htpc.
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dear ew2x4, I don't watch hulu....because I'm not from the past. The neighbor kid just wheeled his chair out to the corner and dumped his HTPC off in the street for cats to pee on.
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bump. getting very :excited: for this. buying a new tv soon but want one that's google tv enabled
It's pretty much dying before it's getting released. Nobody wants to be a part of it.
Link?
Logitech is about the only partner left with the project. They seem confident in it, but its making people uneasy since everyone else backed out. don't remember where i saw it. probably gizmodo or something. Boxee tv will be quality. If you don't already have an HTPC that is.
intel, adobe, sony
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dear ew2x4, I don't watch hulu....because I'm not from the past. The neighbor kid just wheeled his chair out to the corner and dumped his HTPC off in the street for cats to pee on.
Your wdtv must be from the stone age.
btw, I was going to cancel comcast and switch to qwest, and they gave me a deal i couldn't refuse. $50 for 16 mbps internet, the standard cable tier, and a free hddvr for 1 year. I was going strong on just the htpc, but for only $15 more than what I was paying for internet, i get all that stuff. So now I get awesome future technologies along with technologies from the past that current technologies just couldn't dethrone.
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bump. getting very :excited: for this. buying a new tv soon but want one that's google tv enabled
It's pretty much dying before it's getting released. Nobody wants to be a part of it.
Link?
Logitech is about the only partner left with the project. They seem confident in it, but its making people uneasy since everyone else backed out. don't remember where i saw it. probably gizmodo or something. Boxee tv will be quality. If you don't already have an HTPC that is.
intel, adobe, sony
All the cable providers backed out, leaving just Dish network. So, good luck with that.
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Good news re. the sick wheelchair kid's fundraiser. Enough cats pissed on his HTPC that some guy stopped by and offered to buy it to stick in his garden to keep the rabbits away because of the cat piss all over it. Apparently rabbits hate cat piss and antiquated technology.
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bump. getting very :excited: for this. buying a new tv soon but want one that's google tv enabled
It's pretty much dying before it's getting released. Nobody wants to be a part of it.
Link?
Logitech is about the only partner left with the project. They seem confident in it, but its making people uneasy since everyone else backed out. don't remember where i saw it. probably gizmodo or something. Boxee tv will be quality. If you don't already have an HTPC that is.
intel, adobe, sony
All the cable providers backed out, leaving just Dish network. So, good luck with that.
ya because Google needs the cable providers (who weren't launch partners to begin with, not sure why you chose to lie about that) :lol:
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bump. getting very :excited: for this. buying a new tv soon but want one that's google tv enabled
It's pretty much dying before it's getting released. Nobody wants to be a part of it.
Link?
Logitech is about the only partner left with the project. They seem confident in it, but its making people uneasy since everyone else backed out. don't remember where i saw it. probably gizmodo or something. Boxee tv will be quality. If you don't already have an HTPC that is.
intel, adobe, sony
All the cable providers backed out, leaving just Dish network. So, good luck with that.
ya because Google needs the cable providers (who weren't launch partners to begin with, not sure why you chose to lie about that) :lol:
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google tv will be the next google wave.
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Did you know that GoogleTV will bring THE WEB to the TV!!! Revolutionary. If only we had anything else like that.
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Did you know that GoogleTV will bring THE WEB to the TV!!! Revolutionary. If only we had anything else like that.
sorry bud, this isn't the thread for Apple TV peeps. :lol:
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Did you know that GoogleTV will bring THE WEB to the TV!!! Revolutionary. If only we had anything else like that.
sorry bud, this isn't the thread for Apple TV peeps. :lol:
Was thinking about wdtv :dunno:
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http://www.switched.com/2010/09/13/new-ivi-app-lets-subscribers-stream-live-network-tv-for-4-99/
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http://www.switched.com/2010/09/13/new-ivi-app-lets-subscribers-stream-live-network-tv-for-4-99/
I don't get how this will sell. Why would you pay $5 per month for network streaming when you could just use your tv to get it in higher quality for free?
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It can get pretty heavy to carry your television around with you.
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http://www.switched.com/2010/09/13/new-ivi-app-lets-subscribers-stream-live-network-tv-for-4-99/
Interesting.
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http://gizmodo.com/5649560/video-box-battle-royale-who-should-be-your-tvs-new-best-friend
If only there was one solution for everything in that chart....
Ahh wait, I do believe there is.
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Guys, the natural history museum in Omaha just put one of those old HTPCs in the caveman exhibit next to the caveman family using a woodpecker to play records and another bird as a pair of scissors.
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PS3+PlayOn is working pretty well for me. I can watch my videos and stuff over 3G. :cool:
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The WDTV Live sure had a ton of "no's" in that chart. Sure would have hated to waste that much money. Glad I spent twice as much money and got about 3 times as many "yes's".
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GoogleTV updates-- http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/04/google-tv-quick-tour-shows-off-the-services-inner-workings/
i have to say, it's looking pretty much like it's the best thing ever invented.
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GoogleTV updates-- http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/04/google-tv-quick-tour-shows-off-the-services-inner-workings/
i have to say, it's looking pretty much like it's the best thing ever invented.
Yeah, it's going to be amazing.
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Let me know when it can do something an HTPC cannot do. tia.
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GoogleTV updates-- http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/04/google-tv-quick-tour-shows-off-the-services-inner-workings/
i have to say, it's looking pretty much like it's the best thing ever invented.
Looks a lot like Apple TV :dunno: I also, agree with ew2x4. Either Google or Apple TV need to land ESPN3 pronto.
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The Boxee Box is looking like the best way to waste your money by not buying an htpc, atm.
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Let me know when it can do something an HTPC cannot do. tia.
Not be from the stone age?
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GoogleTV updates-- http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/04/google-tv-quick-tour-shows-off-the-services-inner-workings/
i have to say, it's looking pretty much like it's the best thing ever invented.
Looks a lot like Apple TV :dunno: I also, agree with ew2x4. Either Google or Apple TV need to land ESPN3 pronto.
let me guess, you know nothing about these things? thought so :rolleyes:
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Let me know when it can do something an HTPC cannot do. tia.
Not be from the stone age?
It hurts, doesn't it?
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/06/live-from-the-logitech-google-tv-event/
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You've got major telecom providers all hurtling down the path of major IPTV service offerings . . . and expanding network integration and applications rolling out on new TV's . . . so long HTPC, you museum piece you.
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You've got major telecom providers all hurtling down the path of major IPTV service offerings . . . and expanding network integration and applications rolling out on new TV's . . . so long HTPC, you museum piece you.
You know what's great? Knowing that no matter what hardware I have, no matter what version I have, no matter what brand I go with, I will always have everything, and I'll have it before everyone else.
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You've got major telecom providers all hurtling down the path of major IPTV service offerings . . . and expanding network integration and applications rolling out on new TV's . . . so long HTPC, you museum piece you.
You know what's great? Knowing that no matter what hardware I have, no matter what version I have, no matter what brand I go with, I will always have everything, and I'll have it before everyone else.
This is probably true . . . and I forget to add, that as of right now, I am strictly Internet Content only . . . I either watch what I want to watch directly on my PC, or it has an HDMI port on it I can plug into the TV. Upgraded the Internet connection to 6 Mbps, fastest I can get on DSL here right now. Will not support Time Warner for many reasons.
Friend just bought a new Sammy 1080p LCD with a built in network connection. Sampled some IP based stuff on it the other day, excellent picture quality, but he's going to have to upgrade his connection.
I know Google is slamming in fiber all over the place and buying all kinds of bandwidth from the Telco's . . . it's going to be fascinating to see how this all plays out.
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You've got major telecom providers all hurtling down the path of major IPTV service offerings . . . and expanding network integration and applications rolling out on new TV's . . . so long HTPC, you museum piece you.
You know what's great? Knowing that no matter what hardware I have, no matter what version I have, no matter what brand I go with, I will always have everything, and I'll have it before everyone else.
This is probably true . . . and I forget to add, that as of right now, I am strictly Internet Content only . . . I either watch what I want to watch directly on my PC, or it has an HDMI port on it I can plug into the TV. Upgraded the Internet connection to 6 Mbps, fastest I can get on DSL here right now. Will not support Time Warner for many reasons.
Friend just bought a new Sammy 1080p LCD with a built in network connection. Sampled some IP based stuff on it the other day, excellent picture quality, but he's going to have to upgrade his connection.
I know Google is slamming in fiber all over the place and buying all kinds of bandwidth from the Telco's . . . it's going to be fascinating to see how this all plays out.
Yeah, the google broadband thing is going to be an interesting one. Right now, the ISP's are the obvious weak link in the process to go all IPTV.A few hold out networks don't help matters either, though.
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why wouldn't you just use a mac mini? only downfall would be no blue ray.
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why wouldn't you just use a mac mini? only downfall would be no blue ray.
There are some replacement kits you can get for it too. Only downside with the mac mini is the price, and you get hardware that's a bit overkill for just an htpc. It's pretty sexy though.
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why wouldn't you just use a mac mini? only downfall would be no blue ray.
There are some replacement kits you can get for it too. Only downside with the mac mini is the price, and you get hardware that's a bit overkill for just an htpc. It's pretty sexy though.
agree on the price. there needs to be a compromise between full blown mac mini and apple tv. give me something that can run a handfull of programs like plex (with streaming), itunes and other minimal browsing needs and store like a tb or 2, wifi, and cut the price of a production mac mini in half and i would be extremely excited.
which is basically what i have, a mac mini core solo upgraded to a core duo and upgraded ram. don't know about the replacement kits for the blue ray though. whats the deal with those?
only wish mine had true optical out and hdmi. also wish it was a little quiter. i would love to get one of the new ones. coupling it with an iphone makes the experience that much better.
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why wouldn't you just use a mac mini? only downfall would be no blue ray.
There are some replacement kits you can get for it too. Only downside with the mac mini is the price, and you get hardware that's a bit overkill for just an htpc. It's pretty sexy though.
agree on the price. there needs to be a compromise between full blown mac mini and apple tv. give me something that can run a handfull of programs like plex (with streaming), itunes and other minimal browsing needs and store like a tb or 2, wifi, and cut the price of a production mac mini in half and i would be extremely excited.
which is basically what i have, a mac mini core solo upgraded to a core duo and upgraded ram. don't know about the replacement kits for the blue ray though. whats the deal with those?
only wish mine had true optical out and hdmi. also wish it was a little quiter. i would love to get one of the new ones. coupling it with an iphone makes the experience that much better.
I've seen some bluray drive upgrades available. I'm not sure how the software is, though. That's the big difference, since OS X doesn't support it natively.
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http://www.neowin.net/news/major-networks-block-google-tv
Someone (me) called this a long time ago.
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http://www.neowin.net/news/major-networks-block-google-tv
Someone (me) called this
I read this on Engadget this morning.
Here's what I don't get about this. Why do the networks care how their streaming content is accessed?
I can watch it on my television streaming from my computer today, with no GTV in the middle. Their streaming content has commercials in it...
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http://www.neowin.net/news/major-networks-block-google-tv
Someone (me) called this
I read this on Engadget this morning.
Here's what I don't get about this. Why do the networks care how their streaming content is accessed?
I can watch it on my television streaming from my computer today, with no GTV in the middle. Their streaming content has commercials in it...
They probably think that if they play hardball, they can get google to pay them for access to the content.
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they're getting paid for access to their content. their payment comes from the advertisers who pay to for time during their show, and it comes from my time sitting there watching the commercials.
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they're getting paid for access to their content. their payment comes from the advertisers who pay to for time during their show, and it comes from my time sitting there watching the commercials.
Yeah, but if google has to pay them, they get paid twice.
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they're getting paid for access to their content. their payment comes from the advertisers who pay to for time during their show, and it comes from my time sitting there watching the commercials.
Yeah, but if google has to pay them, they get paid twice.
and if i had to pay my cable bill twice, so would Time Warner.
they (the networks) can either take what they've been given, or suffer the same consequences as the recording industry did.
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they're getting paid for access to their content. their payment comes from the advertisers who pay to for time during their show, and it comes from my time sitting there watching the commercials.
Yeah, but if google has to pay them, they get paid twice.
and if i had to pay my cable bill twice, so would Time Warner.
they (the networks) can either take what they've been given, or suffer the same consequences as the recording industry did.
Completely different though. Why would they agree to every single proprietary piece of software/hardware? With music, there is a common format that everyone uses. This made a single formidable opponent. That's not the case with TV. Distribution is everything with TV. Which is why I think we're a long ways off with how exactly to distribute it. There is no common format. There is no single method for obtaining it. There's no timely way to obtain it either. It's going to have to be a Hulu/netflix like avenue. But at the same time, why should they agree to every single distributer?
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they're getting paid for access to their content. their payment comes from the advertisers who pay to for time during their show, and it comes from my time sitting there watching the commercials.
Yeah, but if google has to pay them, they get paid twice.
and if i had to pay my cable bill twice, so would Time Warner.
they (the networks) can either take what they've been given, or suffer the same consequences as the recording industry did.
Completely different though. Why would they agree to every single proprietary piece of software/hardware? With music, there is a common format that everyone uses. This made a single formidable opponent. That's not the case with TV. Distribution is everything with TV. Which is why I think we're a long ways off with how exactly to distribute it. There is no common format. There is no single method for obtaining it. There's no timely way to obtain it either. It's going to have to be a Hulu/netflix like avenue. But at the same time, why should they agree to every single distributer?
They, the network is still distributing the television show. A TV network makes the decision to purchase the rights to a show from a production company based upon the network's belief that they can make more in advertising revenue than the show costs to license from the production company whom actually owns the show.
My observation is that GoogleTV is really just an internet browser of sorts acting as a portal to the television shows which are still hosted and controled by the network. Why does NBC care if I access its streaming content via Netscape over Firefox over IE? At the end of the day, the network is still selling advertising time to ad companies and collecting on that revenue. The commercials are still getting watched by viewers just as they would be on a traditional television set.
The only thing I can conclude is that the networks don't charge advertisers the same amount to advertise via the web as they do via OTA or through cable. And that's why they don't want to shift the model to where people would be inclined to watch via the web, their ad revenue would go down.
I'm going to be in LA next week and staying at BigTimeHollywoodProducerCat's house. I will get the the bottom of all of this with BTHPC then...
STAY TUNED <--- :lol:
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From what I've gathered, they make a lot less. I'm not sure why. DVR's have pretty much made it to where I never watch commercials with cable.
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From what I've gathered, they make a lot less. I'm not sure why. DVR's have pretty much made it to where I never watch commercials with cable.
That's got to be it. So if the networks just said, this is the flat rate for advertising time, independent of what/where the advertising is viewed, this might all go away.
Did you like my "Stay tuned" joke?
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From what I've gathered, they make a lot less. I'm not sure why. DVR's have pretty much made it to where I never watch commercials with cable.
That's got to be it. So if the networks just said, this is the flat rate for advertising time, independent of what/where the advertising is viewed, this might all go away.
Did you like my "Stay tuned" joke?
I could see that possibly working, but I honestly don't know jack about it.
And I chuckled a slight bit. Subtle yet relevant. That's the clams we all love.
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http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/10/not-so-shocking-tv-networks-block-google-tv.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/10/not-so-shocking-tv-networks-block-google-tv.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss)
This provides some explanation.
In short, the tv networks are being bitches. I wouldn't be too surprised if tv as we know it today is like the land line telephone in about 10 years. It will still be around, but it will be MUCH less popular.
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so i just got a mac mini that will serve as my media server. i have it set up as the media server through plex and other things for all my movie and tv streams/downloads. however i know it is possible to use it for so much more. it is connected to 1tb of memory.
i would like to be able to connect to the machine via this thing they call the "internet." i would want to do simple things like remotely control it, upload and download files from it, possibly set up an ftp (if thats the best way to go about it) in order to have a small ring of music explorers share. and anything else that could be possible.
other computers that are in the household are two macbook pros.
whaddya got?
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did you buy it new? apple just reduced the price of the mac mini.
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did you buy it new? apple just reduced the price of the mac mini.
no. bought it used off the bay. got a good deal on it. brand new quality.
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so i just got a mac mini that will serve as my media server. i have it set up as the media server through plex and other things for all my movie and tv streams/downloads. however i know it is possible to use it for so much more. it is connected to 1tb of memory.
i would like to be able to connect to the machine via this thing they call the "internet." i would want to do simple things like remotely control it, upload and download files from it, possibly set up an ftp (if thats the best way to go about it) in order to have a small ring of music explorers share. and anything else that could be possible.
other computers that are in the household are two macbook pros.
whaddya got?
You're gonna need to probably ask an Apple forum. I'm doing all of that stuff right now with Window Home Server. Have no clue how I'd do it with OSX.
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so i just got a mac mini that will serve as my media server. i have it set up as the media server through plex and other things for all my movie and tv streams/downloads. however i know it is possible to use it for so much more. it is connected to 1tb of memory.
i would like to be able to connect to the machine via this thing they call the "internet." i would want to do simple things like remotely control it, upload and download files from it, possibly set up an ftp (if thats the best way to go about it) in order to have a small ring of music explorers share. and anything else that could be possible.
other computers that are in the household are two macbook pros.
whaddya got?
You're gonna need to probably ask an Apple forum. I'm doing all of that stuff right now with Window Home Server. Have no clue how I'd do it with OSX.
is there any other functionality that i am missing? how do i make it to where my dog tweets every time he does something? can it control the temperature of my fridge? how can i get it to open a beer for me when i come home?
but srsly is there a function that would be good to have besides the ones listed.
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so i just got a mac mini that will serve as my media server. i have it set up as the media server through plex and other things for all my movie and tv streams/downloads. however i know it is possible to use it for so much more. it is connected to 1tb of memory.
i would like to be able to connect to the machine via this thing they call the "internet." i would want to do simple things like remotely control it, upload and download files from it, possibly set up an ftp (if thats the best way to go about it) in order to have a small ring of music explorers share. and anything else that could be possible.
other computers that are in the household are two macbook pros.
whaddya got?
You're gonna need to probably ask an Apple forum. I'm doing all of that stuff right now with Window Home Server. Have no clue how I'd do it with OSX.
is there any other functionality that i am missing? how do i make it to where my dog tweets every time he does something? can it control the temperature of my fridge? how can i get it to open a beer for me when i come home?
but srsly is there a function that would be good to have besides the ones listed.
Do you use it to record tv at all? I am able to record from my htpc, send it to my home server, it will encode it to whatever size and file type, so I can stream it.
I can rip a CD/DVD/bluray on any computer in the house and have it end up formatted in the file type I want on my server.
There's some cool stuff with deploying programs. I can put exe files in a folder and just get easy access to all the programs i want on all my machines.
Probably a lot of other stuff I'm too dumb to figure out.
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well considering i will be using it as my home server as well i should be alright there as long as i can access it. however i definitely am interested in recording tv onto it. i have att uverse set up with a dvr. but i'm sure there would be a way to do it. any ideas? the only way i would be able to do it is if my plasma can act as an intermediary between the two. unless i can use usb?
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You'll need a tv tuner. I'm not sure what is available, but you may need a cable card tuner. It's the card you stick in TIVO's than decodes the signal. Not sure if you need it with Uverse or not. That should take the signal straight from the raw coax and be independent from the dvr. I don't think you can take the raw dvr recording and transfer. It will have to record live.
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for OSX i recommendo the elgato tuner. pete has one too.
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http://gizmodo.com/5686886/every-major-network-website-is-blocking-google-tv
:facepalm:
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yeah i saw this. old meets new. old grounds new for unacceptable infringement on future income.
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yeah i saw this. old meets new. old grounds new for unacceptable infringement on future income.
TV industry will be the music industry soon. The funny thing is you can get the broadcast channels for free.
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for OSX i recommendo the elgato tuner. pete has one too.
would this allow me to transfer recordings i already have?
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/22/viacom-drops-the-ban-hammer-on-google-tv-devices-blocks-streami/
Viacom says :nono: to Google TV
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Hope SD didn't waste money on GoogleTV like he did with that WDTV pos.
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Hope SD didn't waste money on GoogleTV like he did with that WDTV pos.
can't believe you're not more up in arms about all of this. being such an open platform type of guy, it has to make you sick that these content providers are being so controlling with their content.
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Hope SD didn't waste money on GoogleTV like he did with that WDTV pos.
can't believe you're not more up in arms about all of this. being such an open platform type of guy, it has to make you sick that these content providers are being so controlling with their content.
Actually, I'm kind of on the fence. Networks are open with their stuff (See the Boxee Box), it's mainly how Google handled it.
On the other hand, it's their product. They can say how they want to distribute it. Consumers suffer when an industry is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) like this. But if they don't embrace it, they will suffer just like the recording industry did.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/14/the-home-theater-pc-is-dead-long-live-windows-media-center/
:lol: :flush:
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/14/the-home-theater-pc-is-dead-long-live-windows-media-center/
:lol: :flush:
I would love an embedded system. Windows 8 and their SOC and ARM support will probably facilitate that.
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Just thought I would relay my :love: Plex 9.5.2. This crap is incredible. Anybody else using it?
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how do you get around using cable cards with an HTPC?
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how do you get around using cable cards with an HTPC?
i just dl or stream through torrents and plugins. i did just learn of something called couch potato that will automatically dl a tv show or movie as it becomes available on various sources. you can even set parameters on the que ensuring specific quality (1080, 720, etc...) or type (avi, mkv, h.264, etc...). Thinking about giving it a try but I need to either clear some space or get another TB.
Plex will work with couch potato and automatically organize it and categorize everything. It also handles netflix, espn360, hulu and a bunch of others, so that is a plus.