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Title: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Benja on April 23, 2014, 06:00:01 PM
In this thread wise sage EMAW's give advice to other EMAW's.
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Post by: Benja on April 23, 2014, 06:00:49 PM
Don't get a credit card before you graduate college and have a good paying job.
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Post by: Boom Roasted on April 23, 2014, 06:08:58 PM
Get a credit card to build credit history ASAP. Also, collect the crap out of points.
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Post by: Benja on April 23, 2014, 06:09:58 PM
Don't listen to Boom Roasted run away if anyone offers you one, or actually I guess just be responsible unlike benja was capable of at that age.
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Post by: Benja on April 23, 2014, 06:12:30 PM
Don't date anyone seriously for at least your first couple years of college.
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Post by: ben ji on April 23, 2014, 06:15:14 PM
Go big or go home.
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Post by: ben ji on April 23, 2014, 06:16:30 PM
If you make a mistake, make it at 100% effort.
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Post by: ben ji on April 23, 2014, 06:17:12 PM
Look twice before crossing a road.
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Post by: ben ji on April 23, 2014, 06:17:34 PM
Don't get fat.
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Post by: ben ji on April 23, 2014, 06:18:14 PM
If it flies floats or (bad F word), rent it, don't buy it.
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Post by: Spracne on April 23, 2014, 06:18:19 PM
Life's short, have an affair.
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Post by: ben ji on April 23, 2014, 06:18:41 PM
Everyone's favorite word is there own name.
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Post by: ben ji on April 23, 2014, 06:19:09 PM
Dogs and cats actually get along.
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Post by: Spracne on April 23, 2014, 06:19:22 PM
benja and ben ji are different posters...
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Post by: ben ji on April 23, 2014, 06:20:16 PM
When you feel depressed about your life, just remember that by the luck of being born in the US of A you are better off than like 90% of people alive.
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Post by: ben ji on April 23, 2014, 06:21:24 PM
Time is a flat circle.
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Post by: ben ji on April 23, 2014, 06:22:58 PM
If the bar ain't bending, your just pretending
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Post by: Benja on April 23, 2014, 06:22:59 PM
Be nice to your mom no matter what. She's your mom, jerk.
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Post by: ben ji on April 23, 2014, 06:23:44 PM
If it feels good, do it.
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Post by: ben ji on April 23, 2014, 06:24:43 PM
You will always look back at yourself and say "what a Dumbass"
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Post by: ben ji on April 23, 2014, 06:25:15 PM
Everyone makes mistakes, smart people learn from their mistakes.
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Post by: ben ji on April 23, 2014, 06:26:07 PM
Sweat is just your fat crying.
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Post by: ben ji on April 23, 2014, 06:26:44 PM
Vegetables taste really good.
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Post by: slobber on April 23, 2014, 06:28:04 PM
If you knew how little others think of you, you wouldn't care so much about what they think of you. (For people that are alwasy worried about what others think of them...maybe my Canadian friend's wife.  :horrorsurprise:)
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: ben ji on April 23, 2014, 06:28:16 PM
Spend your money on "Experiences"  not "stuff"
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Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on April 23, 2014, 06:29:45 PM
don't invest in Enron  :curse: :curse: :curse:
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Post by: ben ji on April 23, 2014, 06:30:05 PM
Luck is when hard work meets opportunity
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Post by: Spracne on April 23, 2014, 06:30:31 PM
If you knew how little others think of you, you wouldn't care so much about what they think of you. (For people that are alwasy worried about what others think of them...maybe my Canadian friend's wife.  :horrorsurprise:)

By "little," do you mean how infrequently, or do you mean how poorly? If the latter, I think I would very much care.  #FearsConfirmed.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Benja on April 23, 2014, 06:31:42 PM
If you knew how little others think of you, you wouldn't care so much about what they think of you. (For people that are alwasy worried about what others think of them...maybe my Canadian friend's wife.  :horrorsurprise:)

good one
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: ben ji on April 23, 2014, 06:31:58 PM
The royals will win a world series in the year 2014.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Spracne on April 23, 2014, 06:32:19 PM
benji's really trying to play hero ball with this thread.  :alcohol:
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: ben ji on April 23, 2014, 06:33:01 PM
Ben ji and benja are different posters.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Benja on April 23, 2014, 06:34:13 PM
Vague advice isn't very helpful advice.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Spracne on April 23, 2014, 06:38:46 PM
Vague advice isn't very helpful advice.

Explain...
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: slobber on April 23, 2014, 06:42:50 PM
If you knew how little others think of you, you wouldn't care so much about what they think of you. (For people that are alwasy worried about what others think of them...maybe my Canadian friend's wife.  :horrorsurprise:)

By "little," do you mean how infrequently, or do you mean how poorly? If the latter, I think I would very much care.  #FearsConfirmed.
infrequently
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: CNS on April 23, 2014, 07:23:50 PM
Retitle to Bumper Sticker Thread.
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Post by: Hoibergs Horrible Heart on April 23, 2014, 07:29:55 PM
The royals will win a world series in the year 2014.

Would be pretty cool.  Still hope I'm able to see that, some day...
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: star seed 7 on April 24, 2014, 02:52:11 AM
To take advantage of my opportunities with women when I had them
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Post by: dmartin on April 24, 2014, 07:54:20 AM
never trust the rhythm method...
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 24, 2014, 08:09:21 AM
if you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 24, 2014, 08:10:41 AM
anything ever put on a "big dog" or "no fear" tee shirt, really.  All great pieces of advice.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 24, 2014, 08:15:43 AM
When Rollin with the homies comes on make sure you do the arm thing like from clueless also po some out fo thoz homies dat has fallen


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Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 24, 2014, 08:56:23 AM
If you don't love everybody, you can't sell anybody.
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Post by: Bloodfart on April 24, 2014, 09:07:29 AM
Emo is a Bushblister sock?  :sdeek:
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Post by: UCHADBRO on April 24, 2014, 10:35:45 AM
Don't go running back to an ex. You broke up for a reason and cyclical relationships are unhealthy.
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Post by: TownieCat on April 24, 2014, 10:56:28 AM
If you ever have the opportunity to hook up with an ex, do it. But only once.
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Post by: dmartin on April 24, 2014, 11:01:25 AM
If you ever have the opportunity to hook up with an ex, do it. But only once.

but make sure you break up with her, don't let her do it.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: TownieCat on April 24, 2014, 11:15:08 AM
If you ever have the opportunity to hook up with an ex, do it. But only once.

but make sure you break up with her, don't let her do it.

Who broke up with whom is irrelevant when hooking up with an old flame. The more important part is to make sure it only happens once.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: dmartin on April 24, 2014, 01:12:43 PM
If you ever have the opportunity to hook up with an ex, do it. But only once.

but make sure you break up with her, don't let her do it.

Who broke up with whom is irrelevant when hooking up with an old flame. The more important part is to make sure it only happens once.

I meant when you end it the second time, make sure it's on your terms.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: UCHADBRO on April 24, 2014, 01:20:20 PM
If you ever have the opportunity to hook up with an ex, do it. But only once.

This is very true and wise
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Post by: Asteriskhead on April 24, 2014, 01:28:39 PM
I wish somebody would have told me not to read this thread.
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 25, 2014, 08:43:47 AM
Don't get a tattoo naming a crime you are going to commit.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 25, 2014, 08:44:41 AM
 :lol:
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Post by: slobber on April 25, 2014, 11:31:01 AM
...to tell my Mom and Dad to not buy that timeshare in Arkansas back in 1977 and instead drive over to Bentonville and invest that money in WalMart.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: CHONGS on April 25, 2014, 11:49:40 AM
Use it or lose it
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Post by: CHONGS on April 25, 2014, 11:53:04 AM
Give a man a fish and he eats today, give a man some farmable land and he can plant some soybeans which in turn can be exchanged for money.  This money can then be traded for various goods and services including more fish if one desired, but honestly if you have farmable land that can support enough soybeans to sell at a healthy profit then you are likely not near a great source of seafood, so you should probably skip on the fish and eat something else for dinner tonight.  Maybe a nice piece of lean pork with a side of peas?  Of course if you had planted some peas as well this would be ideal.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Bloodfart on April 25, 2014, 11:55:20 AM
Use it or lose it

 :Wha: Bf Dad says this all the time. 
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Post by: TownieCat on April 25, 2014, 11:57:51 AM
Give a man a fish and he eats today, give a man some farmable land and he can plant some soybeans which in turn can be exchanged for money.  This money can then be traded for various goods and services including more fish if one desired, but honestly if you have farmable land that can support enough soybeans to sell at a healthy profit then you are likely not near a great source of seafood, so you should probably skip on the fish and eat something else for dinner tonight.  Maybe a nice piece of lean pork with a side of peas?  Of course if you had planted some peas as well this would be ideal.

#TeamPork
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Benja on April 25, 2014, 05:04:38 PM
Give a man a fish and he eats today, give a man some farmable land and he can plant some soybeans which in turn can be exchanged for money.  This money can then be traded for various goods and services including more fish if one desired, but honestly if you have farmable land that can support enough soybeans to sell at a healthy profit then you are likely not near a great source of seafood, so you should probably skip on the fish and eat something else for dinner tonight.  Maybe a nice piece of lean pork with a side of peas?  Of course if you had planted some peas as well this would be ideal.

hmmm. good one.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Benja on April 25, 2014, 05:05:29 PM
This thread kinda sucks. I might try to make it better. I dunno.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: The Big Train on April 25, 2014, 10:19:18 PM
shoot first, ask questions later
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Post by: The Big Train on April 25, 2014, 10:19:52 PM
take the blue pill, not the red pill
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Post by: The Big Train on April 25, 2014, 10:20:13 PM
don't hold your farts in public
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Post by: The Big Train on April 25, 2014, 10:20:51 PM
always bench before stretching
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Post by: The Big Train on April 25, 2014, 10:21:24 PM
drive sober or get pulled over
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Post by: The Big Train on April 25, 2014, 10:22:06 PM
do all the blow you can while you are young
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Post by: The Big Train on April 25, 2014, 10:22:36 PM
always wipe back to front, not the other way around
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Post by: puniraptor on April 26, 2014, 01:19:44 AM
always wipe back to front, not the other way around

CONTROVERSY
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Post by: bones129 on April 26, 2014, 01:22:45 AM
always wipe back to front, not the other way around

CONTROVERSY

Controversy denied. Back to front is the only real option.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: bones129 on April 26, 2014, 01:26:57 AM
If you ever have the opportunity to hook up with an ex, do it. But only once.

but make sure you break up with her, don't let her do it.

Who broke up with whom is irrelevant when hooking up with an old flame. The more important part is to make sure it only happens once.

And you can say it wasn't meaningful with a straight face.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: bones129 on April 26, 2014, 01:28:55 AM
don't hold your farts in public

Especially a ripe one in an elevator. Cut it loose, then get off on the next floor. 
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Post by: puniraptor on April 26, 2014, 01:37:57 AM
always wipe back to front, not the other way around

CONTROVERSY

Controversy denied. Back to front is the only real option.

We already did this. You guys have crap on your sacs.
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Post by: Bloodfart on April 26, 2014, 01:39:41 AM
Switch wiper here.  front2back+back2front = So fresh and so clean
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 26, 2014, 10:44:24 AM
You had a boyfriend
Who looked like a girlfriend
That I had in February of last year


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Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: hemmy on April 26, 2014, 04:40:03 PM
Don't get a credit card before you graduate college and have a good paying job.

Why would you wish someone told you that? It's horrible advice.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Benja on April 27, 2014, 06:53:57 PM
Don't get a credit card before you graduate college and have a good paying job.

Why would you wish someone told you that? It's horrible advice.

Because I sucked at having a credit card. For must people I'm sure it's fine.
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Post by: SdK on May 25, 2014, 01:01:01 AM
always wipe back to front, not the other way around

CONTROVERSY

Controversy denied. Back to front is the only real option.

Unless you're a woman.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: SdK on May 25, 2014, 01:02:09 AM
If the truth hurts, it should.
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 25, 2014, 11:32:43 PM
1. College is expensive and student loans suck. So avoid taking out loans for an undergrad education (work a part time job) and try to have a pretty good idea of what career you want by your sophomore year.

2. If you're not going to grad school, make sure you're getting a degree in something useful that will actually land you a good paying job.

3. Work to live. Don't live to work. It's ok to work a boring job as long as you make a lot of money doing it. Money doesn't buy happiness per se, but sure makes it easier.

4. Invest a lot, and early.

5. Travel a lot. Study abroad in college and do it in a foreign language country and don't waste all your time there hanging out with your American friends.

6. Don't buy a new car.

7. Don't build or buy a new house unless it's the dream home you plan to die in. The depreciation is even worse than buying a new car.

8. Don't buy lots of stupid crap or develop expensive habits like drinking, smoking, drugs, golf, etc.

9. Get married, and choose someone who's better than you (preferably wealthier too, but at least a better person).

10. Don't listen to all the dumbshit advice about using CCs to rack up points or cash back. You'll end up spending and wasting a lot more money than those points are worth. One major exception to this rule is if you travel for work and are being reimbursed - then use your CCs as much as possible to rack up those points.


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Post by: 8manpick on May 26, 2014, 12:57:34 PM
^noted fun hater
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Post by: Gooch on May 26, 2014, 01:27:10 PM
#7 could not be more wrong.
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Post by: steve dave on May 26, 2014, 01:35:14 PM
KSUW and I could not be more opposite. Other than travel a lot which we both think is awesome.
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Post by: Benja on May 26, 2014, 01:38:34 PM
1. College is expensive and student loans suck. So avoid taking out loans for an undergrad education (work a part time job) and try to have a pretty good idea of what career you want by your sophomore year.

2. If you're not going to grad school, make sure you're getting a degree in something useful that will actually land you a good paying job.

3. Work to live. Don't live to work. It's ok to work a boring job as long as you make a lot of money doing it. Money doesn't buy happiness per se, but sure makes it easier.

4. Invest a lot, and early.

5. Travel a lot. Study abroad in college and do it in a foreign language country and don't waste all your time there hanging out with your American friends.

6. Don't buy a new car.

7. Don't build or buy a new house unless it's the dream home you plan to die in. The depreciation is even worse than buying a new car.

8. Don't buy lots of stupid crap or develop expensive habits like drinking, smoking, drugs, golf, etc.

9. Get married, and choose someone who's better than you (preferably wealthier too, but at least a better person).

10. Don't listen to all the dumbshit advice about using CCs to rack up points or cash back. You'll end up spending and wasting a lot more money than those points are worth. One major exception to this rule is if you travel for work and are being reimbursed - then use your CCs as much as possible to rack up those points.



1) Take out lots of loans for college. That way you can party much harder in college cuz you won't need a job.

2) Yeah, this one is prolly a good idea

3) Pretty obvious

4) Sure

5) Not everyone can afford to travel a lot but if you can, sure go for it. Do what you want when you're there.

6) Do what you want.

7) Do what you want.

8) Develop every single one of those habits at some point in your life. Prolly don't do hard drugs for too long though. I don't smoke, but if you want to, go for it. It's kinda fun, especially when you drink.

9) Get married if you want. There's no reason to stay in a bad marriage though. That just sucks for everyone.

10) I don't really know much about this, but the gE elites seem to like it so it's probably a good idea.
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Post by: sys on May 26, 2014, 03:04:07 PM
agree with k-s-u on most of these (or mostly agree on all).  think #1 is more complex than he indicates, both in execution and concept, but agree with the sentiment.  think #8 is superseded by #3 for many people, but people should balance.  #10 is good advice for spendthrifts, bad advice for the thrifty.
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on May 26, 2014, 07:42:29 PM
#7 is completely dependant on where the house is located.
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 26, 2014, 09:06:00 PM
I wish someone would've told me in 1988 when I became a Royals fan that all their good years were behind them and I'd be disappointed.
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 26, 2014, 09:25:34 PM
#7 is completely dependant on where the house is located.

Where is it cheaper to build a new home than buy a preexisting home with the same location, fit and finish?

I've bought and sold several homes in several parts of KS and MO. I always start with a certain desirable location/neighborhood in mind, then narrow it down to homes that meet the basic criteria that are hard to change (size, rooms, potential curb appeal, etc.) but have sat on the market because they are outdated. I then perform full remodels that make them better than most comparable new houses, and it's still cheaper than if I had built. And I don't even do much of the work myself. I just hire good contractors at good prices, and factor that expense into what I offer for the house.

I know the homes are significantly cheaper, even after the remodeling, than new construction because I've researched the market and I've toured the new builds. And with the remodeling, I still get to pick my cabinets, counters, carpets, etc.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Katpappy on May 26, 2014, 09:59:19 PM
Be aware of the time of the month, when muff diving.  :party:
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on May 26, 2014, 10:50:41 PM
Be aware of the time of the month, when muff diving.  :party:

Katdaddy! no!
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Benja on May 26, 2014, 11:40:54 PM
Be aware of the time of the month, when muff diving.  :party:

 :nono:  No TV for two weeks.
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Post by: Bloodfart on May 27, 2014, 01:01:47 AM
#7 is completely dependant on where the house is located.

Where is it cheaper to build a new home than buy a preexisting home with the same location, fit and finish?

I've bought and sold several homes in several parts of KS and MO. I always start with a certain desirable location/neighborhood in mind, then narrow it down to homes that meet the basic criteria that are hard to change (size, rooms, potential curb appeal, etc.) but have sat on the market because they are outdated. I then perform full remodels that make them better than most comparable new houses, and it's still cheaper than if I had built. And I don't even do much of the work myself. I just hire good contractors at good prices, and factor that expense into what I offer for the house.

I know the homes are significantly cheaper, even after the remodeling, than new construction because I've researched the market and I've toured the new builds. And with the remodeling, I still get to pick my cabinets, counters, carpets, etc.

You should think larger.  My uncle made a fortune by first building new on raw real-estate and then developing neighborhoods around his home. 
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Post by: steve dave on May 27, 2014, 07:26:43 AM
#7 is completely dependant on where the house is located.

Where is it cheaper to build a new home than buy a preexisting home with the same location, fit and finish?

I've bought and sold several homes in several parts of KS and MO. I always start with a certain desirable location/neighborhood in mind, then narrow it down to homes that meet the basic criteria that are hard to change (size, rooms, potential curb appeal, etc.) but have sat on the market because they are outdated. I then perform full remodels that make them better than most comparable new houses, and it's still cheaper than if I had built. And I don't even do much of the work myself. I just hire good contractors at good prices, and factor that expense into what I offer for the house.

I know the homes are significantly cheaper, even after the remodeling, than new construction because I've researched the market and I've toured the new builds. And with the remodeling, I still get to pick my cabinets, counters, carpets, etc.

That sounds like a lot of work. if you enjoy doing it then that's great. I would not. I want to tell some guy exactly what I want and he builds it for me where I tell him to build it for me. I just sold a house that I bought new for more than I bought it for 8 years ago. Your original statement about it depreciating worse than a car is very lol (though I don't think you meant what you said).
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 27, 2014, 07:38:14 AM
#7 is completely dependant on where the house is located.

Where is it cheaper to build a new home than buy a preexisting home with the same location, fit and finish?

I've bought and sold several homes in several parts of KS and MO. I always start with a certain desirable location/neighborhood in mind, then narrow it down to homes that meet the basic criteria that are hard to change (size, rooms, potential curb appeal, etc.) but have sat on the market because they are outdated. I then perform full remodels that make them better than most comparable new houses, and it's still cheaper than if I had built. And I don't even do much of the work myself. I just hire good contractors at good prices, and factor that expense into what I offer for the house.

I know the homes are significantly cheaper, even after the remodeling, than new construction because I've researched the market and I've toured the new builds. And with the remodeling, I still get to pick my cabinets, counters, carpets, etc.

That sounds like a lot of work. if you enjoy doing it then that's great. I would not. I want to tell some guy exactly what I want and he builds it for me where I tell him to build it for me. I just sold a house that I bought new for more than I bought it for 8 years ago. Your original statement about it depreciating worse than a car is very lol (though I don't think you meant what you said).

It's not that much work, but it's fun work if you like houses. Anyway, hard work = money.

I also need to qualify my earlier statement again. I realize that if you build a new home and hold it long enough, you'll sell it for a higher price in the right market conditions. But that new home will have also cost you plenty in taxes, interest, and insurance. I was simply trying to point out that you'll do much financially to follow my approach. I have actually sold a couple of past houses for higher than my purchase price plus my remodeling, tax, interest, and insurance, meaning I lived for free and made a profit. There is an undeniable expense in building a new house, and it is purely for the intangible. "Benefit" of getting exactly what you want (theoretically).
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 27, 2014, 07:46:36 AM
i realize you're just trying to dig yourself out of the depreciation hole you dug yourself but just admit you're wrong and move on, prob the easiest way because it's just getting worse.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 27, 2014, 07:50:59 AM
#7 is completely dependant on where the house is located.

Where is it cheaper to build a new home than buy a preexisting home with the same location, fit and finish?

I've bought and sold several homes in several parts of KS and MO. I always start with a certain desirable location/neighborhood in mind, then narrow it down to homes that meet the basic criteria that are hard to change (size, rooms, potential curb appeal, etc.) but have sat on the market because they are outdated. I then perform full remodels that make them better than most comparable new houses, and it's still cheaper than if I had built. And I don't even do much of the work myself. I just hire good contractors at good prices, and factor that expense into what I offer for the house.

I know the homes are significantly cheaper, even after the remodeling, than new construction because I've researched the market and I've toured the new builds. And with the remodeling, I still get to pick my cabinets, counters, carpets, etc.

That sounds like a lot of work. if you enjoy doing it then that's great. I would not. I want to tell some guy exactly what I want and he builds it for me where I tell him to build it for me. I just sold a house that I bought new for more than I bought it for 8 years ago. Your original statement about it depreciating worse than a car is very lol (though I don't think you meant what you said).

It's not that much work, but it's fun work if you like houses. Anyway, hard work = money.

I also need to qualify my earlier statement again. I realize that if you build a new home and hold it long enough, you'll sell it for a higher price in the right market conditions. But that new home will have also cost you plenty in taxes, interest, and insurance. I was simply trying to point out that you'll do much financially to follow my approach. I have actually sold a couple of past houses for higher than my purchase price plus my remodeling, tax, interest, and insurance, meaning I lived for free and made a profit. There is an undeniable expense in building a new house, and it is purely for the intangible. "Benefit" of getting exactly what you want (theoretically).

yeah, I guess I see benefit in getting what I want. have you ever made a decision in your life that wasn't 100% financially driven? I mean, when you made your point about getting married it was based around finances. it just seems like a sad way to live. but I guess if that's what makes you happy then it's not!
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 27, 2014, 07:54:32 AM
hey don't forget about that undeniable expense that goes along with building a house.  some people call it the cost of the house.  every month for 15 years, time to write the check for the undeniable expense.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: slobber on May 27, 2014, 07:55:54 AM
Guess what, it is better financially to buy a vacant lot, or better yet, squat on it for 7 years or whatever and then claim it as your own. Then, take scrap wood from other job sites and build a really nice house (never mind the hours of labor and lost opportunity cost associated) and then sell that house than it is to buy a new house.

No crap, if you buy a fixer upper, then invest the time and energy in fixing it up, you will almost always come out ahead vs. buying a new house.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 27, 2014, 08:10:52 AM
No crap, if you buy a fixer upper, then invest the time and energy in fixing it up, you will almost always come out ahead vs. buying a new house.

Ok good. As long as we've got that straight.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: puniraptor on May 27, 2014, 09:00:35 AM
what if your wife reads this list and realizes that you cant BOTH number nine?!??!?

it's over bro.

silver lining is that our boy KSUWILDCATS! is going to be a real treasure in the dating thread.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 27, 2014, 09:04:53 AM
silver lining is that out boy KSUWILDCATS! is going to be a real treasure in the dating thread.

that would be must read message boarding
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: CNS on May 27, 2014, 09:08:31 AM
If you go to the work of rehabing houses, just go get your GC license,  build your own house from scratch, pocket the "profit" from the loan, live in it a couple years, then sell it.  Seems like that wouldn't be much more work and would net you a bigger margin.
 You can do all that by just managing contractors as well.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Tobias on May 27, 2014, 09:11:13 AM
If you go to the work of rehabing houses, just go get your GC license,  build your own house from scratch, pocket the "profit" from the loan, live in it a couple years, then sell it.  Seems like that wouldn't be much more work and would net you a bigger margin.
 You can do all that by just managing contractors as well.

take it to asava's camping thread
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 27, 2014, 09:33:14 AM
silver lining is that out boy KSUWILDCATS! is going to be a real treasure in the dating thread.

that would be must read message boarding

We would have to put it in premium, and then all retire on the $$ from new memberships (or buy broken down dumps and start flipping houses).
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: puniraptor on May 27, 2014, 09:48:56 AM
silver lining is that out boy KSUWILDCATS! is going to be a real treasure in the dating thread.

that would be must read message boarding

We would have to put it in premium, and then all retire on the $$ from new memberships (or buy broken down dumps and start flipping houses).

speems is giving a free trial!
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 27, 2014, 11:43:46 AM
what if your wife reads this list and realizes that you cant BOTH number nine?!??!?

it's over bro.

silver lining is that our boy KSUWILDCATS! is going to be a real treasure in the dating thread.

That's one mistake I didn't make. As for my wife, she didn't have the benefit of this thread.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Benja on May 27, 2014, 12:19:32 PM
K-S-U, did you realize that this is just a general advice thread but all 10 of your advices involved money?



Also, let me know if you need some help flipping houses, I've always wanted to do that. (My understanding is there are piles of money involved.)
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 27, 2014, 12:22:35 PM
Since K-S-U actually gave real advice (even if it was somewhat LOL) instead of witty sayings, I'll give mine:

I wish someone had encouraged me to do something more than what was safe and easy. No one encouraged me to look at colleges outside of the state of Kansas, study abroad, look at a major outside of engineering, take art classes, get active in professional clubs or really pursue anything I was passionate about. I mean, no one discouraged me from doing any of things, but no one brought it up as if any of those things were a good idea. And I guess i just wish someone would have done that. I mean, it all worked out, but it took a bit longer to find a comfortable place than it possibly could have.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: kslim on May 27, 2014, 12:23:44 PM
never to read the pit
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: slobber on May 27, 2014, 12:26:27 PM
Watch that show with the hot wife and good looking douchebag of a husband. It's a 30 minute how to video. PROFIT.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Benja on May 27, 2014, 12:38:49 PM
Since K-S-U actually gave real advice (even if it was somewhat LOL) instead of witty sayings, I'll give mine:

I wish someone had encouraged me to do something more than what was safe and easy. No one encouraged me to look at colleges outside of the state of Kansas, study abroad, look at a major outside of engineering, take art classes, get active in professional clubs or really pursue anything I was passionate about. I mean, no one discouraged me from doing any of things, but no one brought it up as if any of those things were a good idea. And I guess i just wish someone would have done that. I mean, it all worked out, but it took a bit longer to find a comfortable place than it possibly could have.

I know what you mean. The general idea when you are young is to follow a set progression of events (College, degree, career, and marriage in there somewhere). It's only as you get older that you realize there are a million different variables and possibilities in there. I'm just lucky I didn't have kids in college or shortly after, because once that happens your exploration days are pretty much over.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 27, 2014, 12:56:06 PM
Watch that show with the hot wife and good looking douchebag of a husband. It's a 30 minute how to video. PROFIT.

Dr. 90210?
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 27, 2014, 12:59:26 PM
I wish someone had encouraged me to do something more than what was safe and easy. No one encouraged me to look at colleges outside of the state of Kansas, study abroad, look at a major outside of engineering, take art classes, get active in professional clubs or really pursue anything I was passionate about. I mean, no one discouraged me from doing any of things, but no one brought it up as if any of those things were a good idea. And I guess i just wish someone would have done that. I mean, it all worked out, but it took a bit longer to find a comfortable place than it possibly could have.

yes to this
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 27, 2014, 01:02:33 PM
I'm just lucky I didn't have kids in college or shortly after, because once that happens your exploration days are pretty much over.

This isn't true. It definitely becomes harder to try new things and explore new places, but kids don't end your exploration days unless you allow them to.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 27, 2014, 01:03:16 PM
"do whatever you want"
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Benja on May 27, 2014, 01:08:39 PM
I'm just lucky I didn't have kids in college or shortly after, because once that happens your exploration days are pretty much over.

This isn't true. It definitely becomes harder to try new things and explore new places, but kids don't end your exploration days unless you allow them to.

I knew a parent would get on me for that. I didn't mean you can't have a fun life and do things you want, just you can't take risks that may or may not have monetary consequences as much, because you need to feed your kids and stuff.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: slobber on May 27, 2014, 01:08:51 PM
Watch that show with the hot wife and good looking douchebag of a husband. It's a 30 minute how to video. PROFIT.

Dr. 90210?
I have never seen Dr. 90210, but I'll bet that is funny!
Flip or Flop is what I was referring to.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 27, 2014, 01:21:07 PM
go to more cool indie weekday concerts before you have a kid. I wish someone would have told me that and more importantly forced me to do it.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 27, 2014, 01:28:52 PM
I'm just lucky I didn't have kids in college or shortly after, because once that happens your exploration days are pretty much over.

This isn't true. It definitely becomes harder to try new things and explore new places, but kids don't end your exploration days unless you allow them to.

I knew a parent would get on me for that. I didn't mean you can't have a fun life and do things you want, just you can't take risks that may or may not have monetary consequences as much, because you need to feed your kids and stuff.

Well yeah but that's not what you said.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 27, 2014, 01:33:27 PM
I cringe at the suggestion that once you have kids you have to be white bread boring settle for whatever and not try anything new. That's not true at all.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 27, 2014, 01:35:09 PM
I cringe at the suggestion that once you have kids you have to be white bread boring settle for whatever and not try anything new. That's not true at all.

really?
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: slobber on May 27, 2014, 01:37:02 PM
I refuse to accept that "settle" is anything but a choice. It is never the only option.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 27, 2014, 01:38:10 PM
I cringe at the suggestion that once you have kids you have to be white bread boring settle for whatever and not try anything new. That's not true at all.

really?

really.
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Benja on May 27, 2014, 01:56:44 PM
I'm just lucky I didn't have kids in college or shortly after, because once that happens your exploration days are pretty much over.

This isn't true. It definitely becomes harder to try new things and explore new places, but kids don't end your exploration days unless you allow them to.

I knew a parent would get on me for that. I didn't mean you can't have a fun life and do things you want, just you can't take risks that may or may not have monetary consequences as much, because you need to feed your kids and stuff.

Well yeah but that's not what you said.

That's what I meant by exploration
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 27, 2014, 02:01:02 PM
go to more cool indie weekday concerts before you have a kid. I wish someone would have told me that and more importantly forced me to do it.

there are some awful bands playing on a weeknight.  But some good ones also
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: Branson Bound on May 27, 2014, 02:38:31 PM
1. College is expensive and student loans suck. So avoid taking out loans for an undergrad education (work a part time job) and try to have a pretty good idea of what career you want by your sophomore year.

2. If you're not going to grad school, make sure you're getting a degree in something useful that will actually land you a good paying job.

3. Work to live. Don't live to work. It's ok to work a boring job as long as you make a lot of money doing it. Money doesn't buy happiness per se, but sure makes it easier.

4. Invest a lot, and early.

5. Travel a lot. Study abroad in college and do it in a foreign language country and don't waste all your time there hanging out with your American friends.

6. Don't buy a new car.

7. Don't build or buy a new house unless it's the dream home you plan to die in. The depreciation is even worse than buying a new car.

8. Don't buy lots of stupid crap or develop expensive habits like drinking, smoking, drugs, golf, etc.

9. Get married, and choose someone who's better than you (preferably wealthier too, but at least a better person).

10. Don't listen to all the dumbshit advice about using CCs to rack up points or cash back. You'll end up spending and wasting a lot more money than those points are worth. One major exception to this rule is if you travel for work and are being reimbursed - then use your CCs as much as possible to rack up those points.

I guess. Serious question are you a robot?
Title: Re: "I Wish Somebody Would Have Told Me" Thread
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 27, 2014, 09:32:04 PM
I guess. Serious question are you a robot?

That's not a serious question.