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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: EllToPay on March 20, 2013, 12:51:42 PM
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I'm a through and through TSC'er.
But for one of the first times in recent memory, a highly rate recruit turned down Bill Self and his female loving, behind his wife's back ways. Who else will follow his lead?
He should be applauded.
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I'm a through and through TSC'er.
But for one of the first times in recent memory, a highly rate recruit turned down Bill Self and his female loving, behind his wife's back ways. Who else will follow his lead?
He should be applauded.
Bill told him he was leaving KU and randle will follow him to his next school.
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Hopefully the message of bill being a monster that intentionally holds kids back from their dreams is infiltrating AAU teams. Basically the anti Cal.
Randle must have a good head on his shoulders (move to old sayings thread).
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Tough one to swallow for little bro.
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Tough one to swallow
also move to old sayings thread
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UK's recruiting class is unreal. Six 5 star recruits.
:horrorsurprise:
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Current best recruiter for K-State? John Calipari.
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I’m glad Randle chose UK instead of KU; This means we’ll probably keep it close in Manhattan before losing (again) next year. Another great “win” for KSU earned by someone else.
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Bless their heart (another old sayings thread addition) :lol:
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I remember the days when K-State used to compete for high profile recruits. Those were some good times.
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I remember the days when K-State used to compete for high profile recruits. Those were some good times.
yes, that was amazing
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Beems, your class is still sick.
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I remember the days when K-State used to compete for high profile recruits. Those were some good times.
yes, that was amazing
Yep, that was a good year.
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I remember the days when K-State used to compete for high profile recruits. Those were some good times.
when was this? we really didn't have to compete for any of them. they (meaning bill, mike, wally, rodney) just came along without much effort (mostly cheating-ish type stuff). after that, frank had Latavious who I think is pumping gas somewhere and is 40 years old and Tony Mitchell who got birthed to North Texas.
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Beems, your class is still sick.
Thanks.
:cheers:
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love how coach cal has completely modeled his recruiting strategy after KSU and GRCOAT
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Was there any doubt where he was going when he came out decked in Burberry with a Rolex on his wrist?
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I'm really going to have to re-think things here. It appears that Cal and Kentucky can put together better overall packages for recruits than ku/Self/Compton and company.
I may have to re-focus my cheating longings more towards Kentucky and their model over ku and their model . . . as the one K-State should adopt.
I am really disturbed everytime I hear about Weber not "going there". I really want to believe that Weber takes the "Knight Model" where the "care takers" seemingly have no direct connection to the basketball office. But alas I fear tis nothing but a Windmill.
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Was there any doubt where he was going when he came out decked in Burberry with a Rolex on his wrist?
:lol:
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guys, stop with the cheaters bullshit. jfc
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I'm really going to have to re-think things here. It appears that Cal and Kentucky can put together better overall packages for recruits than ku/Self/Compton and company.
I may have to re-focus my cheating longings more towards Kentucky and their model over ku and their model . . . as the one K-State should adopt.
I am really disturbed everytime I hear about Weber not "going there". I really want to believe that Weber takes the "Knight Model" where the "care takers" seemingly have no direct connection to the basketball office. But alas I fear tis nothing but a Windmill.
Eric Gordon didn't go to Illinois because Weber was unwilling to pay. It's all about the $$$
Everyone cheats, if you aren't cheating you aren't trying.
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I'm really going to have to re-think things here. It appears that Cal and Kentucky can put together better overall packages for recruits than ku/Self/Compton and company.
I may have to re-focus my cheating longings more towards Kentucky and their model over ku and their model . . . as the one K-State should adopt.
I am really disturbed everytime I hear about Weber not "going there". I really want to believe that Weber takes the "Knight Model" where the "care takers" seemingly have no direct connection to the basketball office. But alas I fear tis nothing but a Windmill.
Eric Gordon didn't go to Illinois because Weber was unwilling to pay. It's all about the $$$
Everyone cheats, if you aren't cheating you aren't trying.
Um, thanks Captain Obvious.
I was talking about what model to use, not the merits of cheating/not cheating.
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I'm really going to have to re-think things here. It appears that Cal and Kentucky can put together better overall packages for recruits than ku/Self/Compton and company.
I may have to re-focus my cheating longings more towards Kentucky and their model over ku and their model . . . as the one K-State should adopt.
I am really disturbed everytime I hear about Weber not "going there". I really want to believe that Weber takes the "Knight Model" where the "care takers" seemingly have no direct connection to the basketball office. But alas I fear tis nothing but a Windmill.
Eric Gordon didn't go to Illinois because Weber was unwilling to pay. It's all about the $$$
Everyone cheats, if you aren't cheating you aren't trying.
Um, thanks Captain Obvious.
I was talking about what model to use, not the merits of cheating/not cheating.
Model A: #1 recruiting class, NIT loss at Robert Morris
Model B: #3 recruiting class, #1 seed in NCAA tournament
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I'm really going to have to re-think things here. It appears that Cal and Kentucky can put together better overall packages for recruits than ku/Self/Compton and company.
I may have to re-focus my cheating longings more towards Kentucky and their model over ku and their model . . . as the one K-State should adopt.
I am really disturbed everytime I hear about Weber not "going there". I really want to believe that Weber takes the "Knight Model" where the "care takers" seemingly have no direct connection to the basketball office. But alas I fear tis nothing but a Windmill.
Eric Gordon didn't go to Illinois because Weber was unwilling to pay. It's all about the $$$
Everyone cheats, if you aren't cheating you aren't trying.
Um, thanks Captain Obvious.
I was talking about what model to use, not the merits of cheating/not cheating.
It wasn't obvious to me. Perhaps I could learn something from you guys. How much does it cost $$$ to get a 4 star recruit these days? I'll ask somewhere else about 5 star players. If you can give examples of specific players and their standard payroll, this would really help out the new guys. Thanks.
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I'm really going to have to re-think things here. It appears that Cal and Kentucky can put together better overall packages for recruits than ku/Self/Compton and company.
I may have to re-focus my cheating longings more towards Kentucky and their model over ku and their model . . . as the one K-State should adopt.
I am really disturbed everytime I hear about Weber not "going there". I really want to believe that Weber takes the "Knight Model" where the "care takers" seemingly have no direct connection to the basketball office. But alas I fear tis nothing but a Windmill.
Eric Gordon didn't go to Illinois because Weber was unwilling to pay. It's all about the $$$
Everyone cheats, if you aren't cheating you aren't trying.
Um, thanks Captain Obvious.
I was talking about what model to use, not the merits of cheating/not cheating.
It wasn't obvious to me. Perhaps I could learn something from you guys. How much does it cost $$$ to get a 4 star recruit these days? I'll ask somewhere else about 5 star players. If you can give examples of specific players and their standard payroll, this would really help out the new guys. Thanks.
we don't pay players (or family members or aau people) anymore, which is why we suck.
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I'm really going to have to re-think things here. It appears that Cal and Kentucky can put together better overall packages for recruits than ku/Self/Compton and company.
I may have to re-focus my cheating longings more towards Kentucky and their model over ku and their model . . . as the one K-State should adopt.
I am really disturbed everytime I hear about Weber not "going there". I really want to believe that Weber takes the "Knight Model" where the "care takers" seemingly have no direct connection to the basketball office. But alas I fear tis nothing but a Windmill.
Eric Gordon didn't go to Illinois because Weber was unwilling to pay. It's all about the $$$
Everyone cheats, if you aren't cheating you aren't trying.
Um, thanks Captain Obvious.
I was talking about what model to use, not the merits of cheating/not cheating.
Model A: #1 recruiting class, NIT loss at Robert Morris
Model B: #3 recruiting class, #1 seed in NCAA tournament
He won a natty last year. Will be favored to win it next year.
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It's hard to say on actual money, I am more interested in the model.
Probably the best one going before it got busted was ku's Ticket Scalping slush fund, it's just a shame so many had to go to Federal Prison over that, but major props to them for talking the NCAA out of getting involved. That situation pretty much runs neck and neck with UNC convincing the NCAA that the African American Studies non class classes weren't an NCAA violation, but an instutional academic issue.
I'll defer to others on the $.
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Word is Julius got $175,000.
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Word is Julius got $175,000.
Seems a little high.
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I'm not directly tied in so I'm just going off what I've heard from more reliable chatter.
So I personally know nothing, so take that for what it is. Which isn't much.
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I'm really going to have to re-think things here. It appears that Cal and Kentucky can put together better overall packages for recruits than ku/Self/Compton and company.
I may have to re-focus my cheating longings more towards Kentucky and their model over ku and their model . . . as the one K-State should adopt.
I am really disturbed everytime I hear about Weber not "going there". I really want to believe that Weber takes the "Knight Model" where the "care takers" seemingly have no direct connection to the basketball office. But alas I fear tis nothing but a Windmill.
Eric Gordon didn't go to Illinois because Weber was unwilling to pay. It's all about the $$$
Everyone cheats, if you aren't cheating you aren't trying.
Um, thanks Captain Obvious.
I was talking about what model to use, not the merits of cheating/not cheating.
Model A: #1 recruiting class, NIT loss at Robert Morris
Model B: #3 recruiting class, #1 seed in NCAA tournament
He won a natty last year. Will be favored to win it next year.
KU went to the national championship last year. Could win it again this year.
:dunno:
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The boom or bust drama has to be insanely fantastic for Kentucky fans.
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The boom or bust drama has to be insanely fantastic for Kentucky fans.
Yes, quite a few people won't get into my bracket pool at work because "their wildcats" didn't even make the tourney.
Some were on suicide watch this morning because they lost in the first round of the NIT.
:lol:
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I'm really going to have to re-think things here. It appears that Cal and Kentucky can put together better overall packages for recruits than ku/Self/Compton and company.
I may have to re-focus my cheating longings more towards Kentucky and their model over ku and their model . . . as the one K-State should adopt.
I am really disturbed everytime I hear about Weber not "going there". I really want to believe that Weber takes the "Knight Model" where the "care takers" seemingly have no direct connection to the basketball office. But alas I fear tis nothing but a Windmill.
Eric Gordon didn't go to Illinois because Weber was unwilling to pay. It's all about the $$$
Everyone cheats, if you aren't cheating you aren't trying.
Um, thanks Captain Obvious.
I was talking about what model to use, not the merits of cheating/not cheating.
Model A: #1 recruiting class, NIT loss at Robert Morris
Model B: #3 recruiting class, #1 seed in NCAA tournament
He won a natty last year. Will be favored to win it next year.
KU went to the national championship last year. Could win it again this year.
:dunno:
But Cal is the one who beat you by doing things his way, thus destroying your point. Actual results vs hypotheticals. He basically took a year off from being good because he could. Next year UK will dominate again. It's sickeningly beautiful.
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I'm really going to have to re-think things here. It appears that Cal and Kentucky can put together better overall packages for recruits than ku/Self/Compton and company.
I may have to re-focus my cheating longings more towards Kentucky and their model over ku and their model . . . as the one K-State should adopt.
I am really disturbed everytime I hear about Weber not "going there". I really want to believe that Weber takes the "Knight Model" where the "care takers" seemingly have no direct connection to the basketball office. But alas I fear tis nothing but a Windmill.
Eric Gordon didn't go to Illinois because Weber was unwilling to pay. It's all about the $$$
Everyone cheats, if you aren't cheating you aren't trying.
Um, thanks Captain Obvious.
I was talking about what model to use, not the merits of cheating/not cheating.
Model A: #1 recruiting class, NIT loss at Robert Morris
Model B: #3 recruiting class, #1 seed in NCAA tournament
He won a natty last year. Will be favored to win it next year.
KU went to the national championship last year. Could win it again this year.
:dunno:
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rest of the big 12 dodged a bullet.
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The boom or bust drama has to be insanely fantastic for Kentucky fans.
Yes, quite a few people won't get into my bracket pool at work because "their wildcats" didn't even make the tourney.
Some were on suicide watch this morning because they lost in the first round of the NIT.
:lol:
But then they go to lunch and come back to find that Cal signed the #2 kid in HS and has 6 of the top 20 in the country coming in next yr with the #1 kid still yet undecided with Kentucky in his final four teams he is considering. I mean, the peaks and valleys are enough to kill someone. It would be fantastic.
NC's, failures, huge insane recruiting. Sign me up.
Truly a sports fans dream.
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I'm really going to have to re-think things here. It appears that Cal and Kentucky can put together better overall packages for recruits than ku/Self/Compton and company.
I may have to re-focus my cheating longings more towards Kentucky and their model over ku and their model . . . as the one K-State should adopt.
I am really disturbed everytime I hear about Weber not "going there". I really want to believe that Weber takes the "Knight Model" where the "care takers" seemingly have no direct connection to the basketball office. But alas I fear tis nothing but a Windmill.
Knight model would require Currie's agreement or inaction, which makes this a low probability outcome. Nothing wrong with kicking the tires of the UK model, though.
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The boom or bust drama has to be insanely fantastic for Kentucky fans.
Yes, quite a few people won't get into my bracket pool at work because "their wildcats" didn't even make the tourney.
Some were on suicide watch this morning because they lost in the first round of the NIT.
:lol:
But then they go to lunch and come back to find that Cal signed the #2 kid in HS and has 6 of the top 20 in the country coming in next yr with the #1 kid still yet undecided with Kentucky in his final four teams he is considering. I mean, the peaks and valleys are enough to kill someone. It would be fantastic.
NC's, failures, huge insane recruiting. Sign me up.
Truly a sports fans dream.
BBSing about Kentucky basketball must be great. Soaring highs and crushing lows, but at least with Cal you know you'll be high as a kite again in no time.
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What's the mystery? Play a year in UK nice new arena or that reeking century old shithole at KU?
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Cal "cheater" people are the retardiest of the retardedy.
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What's the mystery? Play a year in UK nice new arena or that reeking century old shithole at KU?
Rupp is built into the side of a mall, and AFH was just updated in 2010.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.uky.edu%2FCampusGuide%2Fimages%2F2147.jpeg&hash=acbff7068cc4eefc69988291fcc8ae71b5bc3254)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjayhawk-talk.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F01%2FAllen-Fieldhouse1-680x250.jpg&hash=4d4bdcfbad83b240448ef14995ffbf289ed94e84)
:dunno:
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I'm really going to have to re-think things here. It appears that Cal and Kentucky can put together better overall packages for recruits than ku/Self/Compton and company.
I may have to re-focus my cheating longings more towards Kentucky and their model over ku and their model . . . as the one K-State should adopt.
I am really disturbed everytime I hear about Weber not "going there". I really want to believe that Weber takes the "Knight Model" where the "care takers" seemingly have no direct connection to the basketball office. But alas I fear tis nothing but a Windmill.
Eric Gordon didn't go to Illinois because Weber was unwilling to pay. It's all about the $$$
Everyone cheats, if you aren't cheating you aren't trying.
Um, thanks Captain Obvious.
I was talking about what model to use, not the merits of cheating/not cheating.
Model A: #1 recruiting class, NIT loss at Robert Morris
Model B: #3 recruiting class, #1 seed in NCAA tournament
He won a natty last year. Will be favored to win it next year.
KU went to the national championship last year. Could win it again this year.
:dunno:
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Well hell, co-champ K-State could win the NC this year.
UK's new arena was "built into the side of a mall." How rough ridin' brillant is that? High school kids :love: malls. Probably the difference maker right there. If the sqwawks had brains they'd put a mall around that "updated" shithole they play in. Maybe the downtown Lawrence homeless wouldn't make it out there.
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most of you, shut up
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No . . . and take back your "Cal Cheater" comment, or at least validate in your response that it wasn't directed at me, because I don't care if the he (and most others) cheat, I want to emulate their model. :shakesfist:
Cal's track record speaks for itself and the fact that he's coaching Kentucky now is something that frankly we can all admire, a true walk between the raindrops life. Amazing.
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No, you are branded with it
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No, you are branded with it
You . . . :shakesfist:
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I was going to post this was not much of a loads now that the light has come on for Perry but then I watched some of Randle's vids :horrorsurprise:
He is like a taller CK that lifts, tough loss for the Hawks
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I don't understand ku's butthurt towards Kentucky.
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I don't understand ku's butthurt towards Kentucky.
well, even more mind boggling than that, is KSU's butthurt towards Kentucky.
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The 51 title game dies hard
I don't understand ku's butthurt towards Kentucky.
well, even more mind boggling than that, is KSU's butthurt towards Kentucky.
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Nothing tops reading phogtuck land argue back and forth about Kentucky and how Cal cheats, and ku doesn't, and they would never want to be Kentucky. :blah: :blah: :blah:
It's fantastic.
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I don't understand ku's butthurt towards Kentucky.
well, even more mind boggling than that, is KSU's butthurt towards Kentucky.
Yeah really. Is it that difficult to believe that a young and charismatic coach, with a track record of getting guys to the NBA, can recruit elite players to the winningest program in NCAA history? GMAFB
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Joined a bracket pool set up by a sqwauwk and the name of it was "wait?...where is Kentucky?"
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The tales of oscar's recruiting at Illinois are hilarious. He failed because he had to try to recruit high-profile recruits he didn't really want, but had to to keep fans happy. Except Eric Gordon who got paid.
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Joined a bracket pool set up by a sqwauwk and the name of it was "wait?...where is Kentucky?"
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Huge burn there by the bracket guy. Huge.
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The tales of oscar's recruiting at Illinois are hilarious. He failed because he had to try to recruit high-profile recruits he didn't really want, but had to to keep fans happy. Except Eric Gordon who got paid.
yeah, and now, he's learned his lesson. he's learned that he really should be going after guys outside the top 50/100/150, because those guys are going to fit his style. he doesn't feel the pressure at KSU to get those really talented guys.
much the same way that I'm through rough ridin' talking to Kate Upton. I'm not going to play her games anymore.
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Haven't both Cal and Seff and their respective institutions past and present both recently been caught cheating? Are their people who deny this? So confused.
Also, been to both Rupp and AFH post renovation. AFH is a sheetrock cave, shittiest concourses of any venue Ive ever been to in my entire life. It's pathetic. The arena part is nostalgic, so there's that. Rupp is extremely nice with a pro feel to it. Its off campus in downtown lexington which is surprisingly cosmopolitan given its in Kentucky. It's not in a mall, its in a Hyatt/Galeria/Convention center, yet subtlety the venue is nostalgic.. It's way better than AFH and everyone already knows that.
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Haven't both Cal and Seff and their respective institutions past and present both recently been caught cheating? Are their people who deny this? So confused.
Also, been to both Rupp and AFH post renovation. AFH is a sheetrock cave, shittiest concourses of any venue Ive ever been to in my entire life. It's pathetic. The arena part is nostalgic, so there's that. Rupp is extremely nice with a pro feel to it. Its off campus in downtown lexington which is surprisingly cosmopolitan given its in Kentucky. It's not in a mall, its in a Hyatt/Galeria/Convention center, yet subtlety the venue is nostalgic.. It's way better than AFH and everyone already knows that.
Mark this post.
This, friends, is satire at its finest.
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Haven't both Cal and Seff and their respective institutions past and present both recently been caught cheating? Are their people who deny this? So confused.
Also, been to both Rupp and AFH post renovation. AFH is a sheetrock cave, shittiest concourses of any venue Ive ever been to in my entire life. It's pathetic. The arena part is nostalgic, so there's that. Rupp is extremely nice with a pro feel to it. Its off campus in downtown lexington which is surprisingly cosmopolitan given its in Kentucky. It's not in a mall, its in a Hyatt/Galeria/Convention center, yet subtlety the venue is nostalgic.. It's way better than AFH and everyone already knows that.
Cal was never indicted by the NCAA for either the Marcus Camby incident nor the Derrick Rose incident.
Hi, haters.
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Haven't both Cal and Seff and their respective institutions past and present both recently been caught cheating? Are their people who deny this? So confused.
Also, been to both Rupp and AFH post renovation. AFH is a sheetrock cave, shittiest concourses of any venue Ive ever been to in my entire life. It's pathetic. The arena part is nostalgic, so there's that. Rupp is extremely nice with a pro feel to it. Its off campus in downtown lexington which is surprisingly cosmopolitan given its in Kentucky. It's not in a mall, its in a Hyatt/Galeria/Convention center, yet subtlety the venue is nostalgic.. It's way better than AFH and everyone already knows that.
Mark this post.
This, friends, is satire at its finest.
"Mark this post" is hardly fine satire, dumbass. Weird post
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Rupp isn't that nice, dorks.
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Rupp isn't that nice, dorks.
Yeah it is, tool.
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Cal "cheater" people are the retardiest of the retardedy.
You are describing KC media
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So we have a good thread and it turns into a butthurt showdown between Cal defenders ( he absolutely no question cheated in the past, whether he was the actual bag man is the question) and Cal haters (he probably doesn't cheat a bit anymore, doesn't have to) and 1 ku fan who is butthurt that Kentucky is a better program.
This is about Cal landing the #2 player the day after he got knocked out of the first round of the NIT by Bob Morris.
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Cal is just simply the baddest man on the planet, it's not even about Kentucky, pretty sure he could do what he does virtually anywhere it's just easiest at Kentucky
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So we have a good thread and it turns into a butthurt showdown between Cal defenders ( he absolutely no question cheated in the past, whether he was the actual bag man is the question) and Cal haters (he probably doesn't cheat a bit anymore, doesn't have to) and 1 ku fan who is butthurt that Kentucky is a better program.
This is about Cal landing the #2 player the day after he got knocked out of the first round of the NIT by Bob Morris.
Agreed
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If I was a random top recruit, and I could play for any school, it would be Kentucky.
KU would be high on my list....around 6 or 7, and that is out of all programs in the country.
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If I was a random top recruit, and I could play for any school, it would be Kentucky.
KU would be high on my list....around 6 or 7, and that is out of all programs in the country.
Ucla
Duke
Carolina
Florida
Kentucky
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If i was good enough that i could play at any school in the country, it wouldn't matter which school i choose because i'm such a stud and any school would be lucky to have me. So, i'd go to K-State or else whoever offers me the most money/benefits.
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KU screwed themselves once Selby flopped. They'll never be the same.
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I would Kentucky it if given the option. Cal puts everyone in the league. Kentucky scholarship is a license to print money.
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man, first smart and now randle. texas recruits aren't very loyal to their state. weird, because i think of texans as being retardly loyal to their state.
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I've never understood why KU fans hate Duke so much. They're really, really butthurt about Duke.
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I've never understood why KU fans hate Duke so much. They're really, really butthurt about Duke.
they are really butthurt about pretty much every other program that has even a minor amount of success. the butthurt towards the bluebloods is exponentially worse.
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I've never understood why KU fans hate Duke so much. They're really, really butthurt about Duke.
they are really butthurt about pretty much every other program that has even a minor amount of success. the butthurt towards the bluebloods is exponentially worse.
I mean, we aren't envious of successful football programs. Then again, we have no reason to envy Alabama, Florida, tOSU or USC, because they're our equals. And our friends.
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KU has the #3 ranked recruiting class for next year.
#12-Wayne seldon 6'5 220lb SG/SF(will be like bmac but way better off the dribble)
#28-Joel Embiid 6'11" 230lb C(this dude is nasty...check out his clips)
#43-Brannen Greene 6'6" 215lb SG(can flat out shoot)
#47-Conner Frankamp 6'0" 155lb PG(the next Kirk hinrich, dominated on the USA team)
#134-frank mason 6'0" 175lb PG(next Sherron Collins only lighter)
so see KU is in great position to be a contender next year along with our return players. we still have a shot at Andrew Wiggins who the experts say is the best prospect since Lebron(doubt he comes here but who knows)
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KU has the #3 ranked recruiting class for next year.
#12-Wayne seldon 6'5 220lb SG/SF(will be like bmac but way better off the dribble)
#28-Joel Embiid 6'11" 230lb C(this dude is nasty...check out his clips)
#43-Brannen Greene 6'6" 215lb SG(can flat out shoot)
#47-Conner Frankamp 6'0" 155lb PG(the next Kirk hinrich, dominated on the USA team)
#134-frank mason 6'0" 175lb PG(next Sherron Collins only lighter)
so see KU is in great position to be a contender next year along with our return players. we still have a shot at Andrew Wiggins who the experts say is the best prospect since Lebron(doubt he comes here but who knows)
ku still has a great recruiting class. people said already that.
this thread is about congratulating mr. randle and his improved chances at success for choosing not to play for known talent-stunter/adulterer/slavemaster bill self.
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I've never understood why KU fans hate Duke so much. They're really, really butthurt about Duke.
they are really butthurt about pretty much every other program that has even a minor amount of success. the butthurt towards the bluebloods is exponentially worse.
I mean, we aren't envious of successful football programs. Then again, we have no reason to envy Alabama, Florida, tOSU or USC, because they're our equals. And our friends.
Only people I've ever heard THE in front of Kansas State Uni.
Maybe I'm the only one? :dunno:
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I've never understood why KU fans hate Duke so much. They're really, really butthurt about Duke.
they are really butthurt about pretty much every other program that has even a minor amount of success. the butthurt towards the bluebloods is exponentially worse.
I mean, we aren't envious of successful football programs. Then again, we have no reason to envy Alabama, Florida, tOSU or USC, because they're our equals. And our friends.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Thanks for providing my comic relief for the day.
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GC you just don't understand the relationship that K-State has with other Elites that are similar to K-State.
Don't mock what you don't understand son.
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KU has the #3 ranked recruiting class for next year.
#12 #26 -Wayne seldon 6'5 220lb SG/SF(will be like bmac but way better off the dribble)
#28 #37-Joel Embiid 6'11" 230lb C(this dude is nasty...check out his clips) youtube search Judge, Wally
#43#25 -Brannen Greene 6'6" 215lb SG(can flat out shoot)
#47 #31-Conner Frankamp 6'0" 155lb PG(the next Kirk hinrich :lol:, dominated on the USA team)
#134-frank mason 6'0" 175lb PG(next Sherron Collins only lighter :lol:)
so see KU is in great position to be a contender next year along with our return players. we still have a shot at Andrew Wiggins who the experts say is the best prospect since Lebron(doubt he comes here but who knows)
I'm not sure if my corrected rankings do to your argument but, at the very least, you don't know how to use the interwebs very well.
So, seldon is going to be the #1 pick next year?
Frankamp is no Captain Kirk. KH was an absolute freak in HS and much taller than Frankamp. Conner is a bitch and is going to be somewhere between Tyrel Reed and Jeff Boschee.
Frank Mason is no Sherron. Maybe lighter than him (who isn't? :dunno:)...but definitely not close talent-wise. He'll probably be better than Tharpe, though...
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Not mocking Dax, just laughing at the absurdity of KSU football being equal with the other programs mentioned. Those programs win national titles, KSU doesn't play for them. Don't start in on KU football, because I know all to well how awful they are and yes I do watch their games and follow the team.
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Not mocking Dax, just laughing at the absurdity of KSU football being equal with the other programs mentioned. Those programs win national titles, KSU doesn't play for them. Don't start in on KU football, because I know all to well how awful they are and yes I do watch their games and follow the team.
every one of those programs sees us as an equal or better. that's just facts. your squawkiness is stopping you from seeing reality.
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GC everyone of those Elite's at some point wants to be K-State, as SD said your squawkiness blinds your eyes and your mind from this well known reality.
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We look good because they look good. This isn't a difficult concept. :dubious:
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someone needs to remove their Stickerfan sticker from their face and quit applying it so high.
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I've never understood why KU fans hate Duke so much. They're really, really butthurt about Duke.
they are really butthurt about pretty much every other program that has even a minor amount of success. the butthurt towards the bluebloods is exponentially worse.
Where do you guys get this crap? We are sister schools with UNC for God's sake.
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I've never understood why KU fans hate Duke so much. They're really, really butthurt about Duke.
they are really butthurt about pretty much every other program that has even a minor amount of success. the butthurt towards the bluebloods is exponentially worse.
Where do you guys get this crap? We are sister schools with UNC for God's sake.
LOL yet there are legions of ku fans still immensely butthurt about all things UNC: Dean Smith, Roy Williams etc. etc. etc. There are literally 1000's upon 1000's of ku fans who hate Roy Williams to this day, and all he did was rack up a crap pile of wins at ku, come within an eyelash of winning the national title several times and win a bunch of conference championships. The guy went back to his freaking Alma Mater, where he played, coached and the state he grew up in and still there's mountains of ku fan butthurt.
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I've never understood why KU fans hate Duke so much. They're really, really butthurt about Duke.
they are really butthurt about pretty much every other program that has even a minor amount of success. the butthurt towards the bluebloods is exponentially worse.
Where do you guys get this crap? We are sister schools with UNC for God's sake.
LOL yet there are legions of ku fans still immensely butthurt about all things UNC: Dean Smith, Roy Williams etc. etc. etc. There are literally 1000's upon 1000's of ku fans who hate Roy Williams to this day, and all he did was rack up a crap pile of wins at ku, come within an eyelash of winning the national title several times and win a bunch of conference championships. The guy went back to his freaking Alma Mater, where he played, coached and the state he grew up in and still there's mountains of ku fan butthurt.
I don't know a single KU fan who is still butthurt about Roy Williams.
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I've never understood why KU fans hate Duke so much. They're really, really butthurt about Duke.
they are really butthurt about pretty much every other program that has even a minor amount of success. the butthurt towards the bluebloods is exponentially worse.
Where do you guys get this crap? We are sister schools with UNC for God's sake.
LOL yet there are legions of ku fans still immensely butthurt about all things UNC: Dean Smith, Roy Williams etc. etc. etc. There are literally 1000's upon 1000's of ku fans who hate Roy Williams to this day, and all he did was rack up a crap pile of wins at ku, come within an eyelash of winning the national title several times and win a bunch of conference championships. The guy went back to his freaking Alma Mater, where he played, coached and the state he grew up in and still there's mountains of ku fan butthurt.
I don't know a single KU fan who is still butthurt about Roy Williams.
:lol: Ok, beems.
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It's like you don't even read the phog, ben.
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95% of the KU fanbase got over Roy after KU dominated UNC in the '08 Final Four and won the national title. There might be a small segment that's still butthurt, but it's not that significant.
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While I harbor no real anger at the man (anymore), I still don't like him.
Yeah yeah, he did great things and won a lot of games while here, but all of that is negated because he chose to walk away. Not for a high job, but the same job at a different school.
He willingly walked away from Kansas and its fans and that will always be unforgivable in my book.
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he wasted 15 years of ku history with his soft brand of pansyball, made us known as the 'duke of the midwest', took every other year off recruiting, and cried like a baby in the media.
now he's crying again about his seed etc... and trying to get ku fans to root for his team this weekend.
how can anyone respect him? he's worse than tom crean or john calipari in my book. most overrated coach ever.
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Two butthurt fans on the Internet. Sound the alarms!
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unc, iu, and uk butthurt all in one post? Must be a ku fan!
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Two butthurt fans on the Internet. Sound the alarms!
Just a couple of examples of a regular mindset.
My bestest little ku buddies are still mad.
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Two butthurt fans on the Internet. Sound the alarms!
what are you going to say when the chorus of boos rain down on ol' Roy tomorrow when he's introduced?
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I don't know a single KU fan who is still butthurt about Roy Williams.
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My good ku buds still hate Roy like crazy. They know they shouldn't. They know Bill is better. They still hate Roy's face w an uncontrollable passion.
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Lol, no one ever called ku the Duke of the Midwest.
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KU has the #3 ranked recruiting class for next year.
#12-Wayne seldon 6'5 220lb SG/SF(will be like bmac but way better off the dribble)
#28-Joel Embiid 6'11" 230lb C(this dude is nasty...check out his clips)
#43-Brannen Greene 6'6" 215lb SG(can flat out shoot)
#47-Conner Frankamp 6'0" 155lb PG(the next Kirk hinrich, dominated on the USA team)
#134-frank mason 6'0" 175lb PG(next Sherron Collins only lighter)
so see KU is in great position to be a contender next year along with our return players. we still have a shot at Andrew Wiggins who the experts say is the best prospect since Lebron(doubt he comes here but who knows)
That a nice class of players not good enough to get a Kentucky offer :thumbs:
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KU has the #3 ranked recruiting class for next year.
#12-Wayne seldon 6'5 220lb SG/SF(will be like bmac but way better off the dribble)
#28-Joel Embiid 6'11" 230lb C(this dude is nasty...check out his clips)
#43-Brannen Greene 6'6" 215lb SG(can flat out shoot)
#47-Conner Frankamp 6'0" 155lb PG(the next Kirk hinrich, dominated on the USA team)
#134-frank mason 6'0" 175lb PG(next Sherron Collins only lighter)
so see KU is in great position to be a contender next year along with our return players. we still have a shot at Andrew Wiggins who the experts say is the best prospect since Lebron(doubt he comes here but who knows)
That a nice class of players not good enough to get a Kentucky offer :thumbs:
That comment might sting if Kentucky didn't just lose to Robert Morris in the NIT.
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KU's class is better than any other KU class imo because it doesn't have a for sure one and done.
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KU's class is better than any other KU class imo because it doesn't have a for sure one and done.
Thanks, steve. I agree. I really like the way Self is building this program.
:cheers:
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KU's class is better than any other KU class imo because it doesn't have a for sure one and done.
Thanks, steve. I agree. I really like the way Self is building this program.
:cheers:
beems, your starting 5 for next year. and maybe the 8 man rotation? thanks.
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KU's class is better than any other KU class imo because it doesn't have a for sure one and done.
Thanks, steve. I agree. I really like the way Self is building this program.
:cheers:
no, no cheers for having to play these guys for 4 years. (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sherv.net%2Fcm%2Femoticons%2Fhand-gestures%2Fcrossed-arms-smiley-emoticon.gif&hash=aa384dcb74cfd61082b2b933af754ebc6ee71b0a)
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KU's class is better than any other KU class imo because it doesn't have a for sure one and done.
Thanks, steve. I agree. I really like the way Self is building this program.
:cheers:
beems, your starting 5 for next year. and maybe the 8 man rotation? thanks.
PG - Tharpe
SG - Selden
SF - White/Greene
PF - Ellis
PF - Traylor
First 3 off bench: Adams, Embiid, Frankcamp
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KU's class is better than any other KU class imo because it doesn't have a for sure one and done.
Thanks, steve. I agree. I really like the way Self is building this program.
:cheers:
beems, your starting 5 for next year. and maybe the 8 man rotation? thanks.
PG - Tharpe
SG - Selden
SF - White/Greene
PF - Ellis
PF - Traylor
First 3 off bench: Adams, Embiid, Frankcamp
Solid core of guys for 3-4 years. Traylor’s upside? (please be original and don’t say T-rob)
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KU's class is better than any other KU class imo because it doesn't have a for sure one and done.
Thanks, steve. I agree. I really like the way Self is building this program.
:cheers:
beems, your starting 5 for next year. and maybe the 8 man rotation? thanks.
PG - Tharpe
SG - Selden
SF - White/Greene
PF - Ellis
PF - Traylor
First 3 off bench: Adams, Embiid, Frankcamp
Solid core of guys for 3-4 years. Traylor’s upside? (please be original and don’t say T-rob)
Hmmm... maybe a little bit shorter, a little bit meaner version of Darnell Jackson?
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Traylor seems entirely more athletic than Darnell. I'm thinking a bigger/thicker Jamar Samuels.
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KU's class is better than any other KU class imo because it doesn't have a for sure one and done.
Thanks, steve. I agree. I really like the way Self is building this program.
:cheers:
It's a nice class, but didn't Self TRY and get a one and done?
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Traylor seems entirely more athletic than Darnell. I'm thinking a bigger/thicker Jamar Samuels.
I don't see Traylor ever being able to step out and hit threes. Darnell averaged 11.2 ppg and 6.7 rpg as a senior on a national championship team. He's better than people give him credit for.
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Traylor seems entirely more athletic than Darnell. I'm thinking a bigger/thicker Jamar Samuels.
I don't see Traylor ever being able to step out and hit threes. Darnell averaged 11.2 ppg and 6.7 rpg as a senior on a national championship team. He's better than people give him credit for.
he was a great player. really blossomed late in his college career.
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KU has the #3 ranked recruiting class for next year.
#12 #26 -Wayne seldon 6'5 220lb SG/SF(will be like bmac but way better off the dribble)
#28 #37-Joel Embiid 6'11" 230lb C(this dude is nasty...check out his clips) youtube search Judge, Wally
#43#25 -Brannen Greene 6'6" 215lb SG(can flat out shoot)
#47 #31-Conner Frankamp 6'0" 155lb PG(the next Kirk hinrich :lol:, dominated on the USA team)
#134-frank mason 6'0" 175lb PG(next Sherron Collins only lighter :lol:)
so see KU is in great position to be a contender next year along with our return players. we still have a shot at Andrew Wiggins who the experts say is the best prospect since Lebron(doubt he comes here but who knows)
I'm not sure if my corrected rankings do to your argument but, at the very least, you don't know how to use the interwebs very well.
So, seldon is going to be the #1 pick next year?
Frankamp is no Captain Kirk. KH was an absolute freak in HS and much taller than Frankamp. Conner is a bitch and is going to be somewhere between Tyrel Reed and Jeff Boschee.
Frank Mason is no Sherron. Maybe lighter than him (who isn't? :dunno:)...but definitely not close talent-wise. He'll probably be better than Tharpe, though...
check ESPN 100....idk where you are getting your rankings but they are wrong
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kind of surprising that multiple places have different rankings. dumbfucks.
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KU has the #3 ranked recruiting class for next year.
#12 #26 -Wayne seldon 6'5 220lb SG/SF(will be like bmac but way better off the dribble)
#28 #37-Joel Embiid 6'11" 230lb C(this dude is nasty...check out his clips) youtube search Judge, Wally
#43#25 -Brannen Greene 6'6" 215lb SG(can flat out shoot)
#47 #31-Conner Frankamp 6'0" 155lb PG(the next Kirk hinrich :lol:, dominated on the USA team)
#134-frank mason 6'0" 175lb PG(next Sherron Collins only lighter :lol:)
so see KU is in great position to be a contender next year along with our return players. we still have a shot at Andrew Wiggins who the experts say is the best prospect since Lebron(doubt he comes here but who knows)
I'm not sure if my corrected rankings do to your argument but, at the very least, you don't know how to use the interwebs very well.
So, seldon is going to be the #1 pick next year?
Frankamp is no Captain Kirk. KH was an absolute freak in HS and much taller than Frankamp. Conner is a bitch and is going to be somewhere between Tyrel Reed and Jeff Boschee.
Frank Mason is no Sherron. Maybe lighter than him (who isn't? :dunno:)...but definitely not close talent-wise. He'll probably be better than Tharpe, though...
check ESPN 100....idk where you are getting your rankings but they are wrong
Rivals.
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KU has the #3 ranked recruiting class for next year.
#12 #26 -Wayne seldon 6'5 220lb SG/SF(will be like bmac but way better off the dribble)
#28 #37-Joel Embiid 6'11" 230lb C(this dude is nasty...check out his clips) youtube search Judge, Wally
#43#25 -Brannen Greene 6'6" 215lb SG(can flat out shoot)
#47 #31-Conner Frankamp 6'0" 155lb PG(the next Kirk hinrich :lol:, dominated on the USA team)
#134-frank mason 6'0" 175lb PG(next Sherron Collins only lighter :lol:)
so see KU is in great position to be a contender next year along with our return players. we still have a shot at Andrew Wiggins who the experts say is the best prospect since Lebron(doubt he comes here but who knows)
I'm not sure if my corrected rankings do to your argument but, at the very least, you don't know how to use the interwebs very well.
So, seldon is going to be the #1 pick next year?
Frankamp is no Captain Kirk. KH was an absolute freak in HS and much taller than Frankamp. Conner is a bitch and is going to be somewhere between Tyrel Reed and Jeff Boschee.
Frank Mason is no Sherron. Maybe lighter than him (who isn't? :dunno:)...but definitely not close talent-wise. He'll probably be better than Tharpe, though...
check ESPN 100....idk where you are getting your rankings but they are wrong
Rivals.
mark my words...seldon and frankamp will be a thorn in KSTATE's side
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mark my words...seldon and frankamp will be a thorn in KSTATE's side
yeah, I'm personally sad we will face 4 years of Seldon
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ku fans being excited about their future teams and using phrases like "mark my words" just makes for fantastic message boarding.
Thanks guys. :thumbsup:
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ku fans on facebook are super duper butthurt about Roy and playing them on Sunday. None of them went to college though.
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KU has the #3 ranked recruiting class for next year.
#12 #26 -Wayne seldon 6'5 220lb SG/SF(will be like bmac but way better off the dribble)
#28 #37-Joel Embiid 6'11" 230lb C(this dude is nasty...check out his clips) youtube search Judge, Wally
#43#25 -Brannen Greene 6'6" 215lb SG(can flat out shoot)
#47 #31-Conner Frankamp 6'0" 155lb PG(the next Kirk hinrich :lol:, dominated on the USA team)
#134-frank mason 6'0" 175lb PG(next Sherron Collins only lighter :lol:)
so see KU is in great position to be a contender next year along with our return players. we still have a shot at Andrew Wiggins who the experts say is the best prospect since Lebron(doubt he comes here but who knows)
I'm not sure if my corrected rankings do to your argument but, at the very least, you don't know how to use the interwebs very well.
So, seldon is going to be the #1 pick next year?
Frankamp is no Captain Kirk. KH was an absolute freak in HS and much taller than Frankamp. Conner is a bitch and is going to be somewhere between Tyrel Reed and Jeff Boschee.
Frank Mason is no Sherron. Maybe lighter than him (who isn't? :dunno:)...but definitely not close talent-wise. He'll probably be better than Tharpe, though...
check ESPN 100....idk where you are getting your rankings but they are wrong
Rivals.
mark my words...seldon and frankamp will be a thorn in KSTATE's side
Seldon? Likely. Franky? less likely.
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KU's class is better than any other KU class imo because it doesn't have a for sure one and done.
Thanks, steve. I agree. I really like the way Self is building this program.
:cheers:
It's a nice class, but didn't Self TRY and get a one and done?
Oh yeah... we wanted Randle, and I'm sure we want Wiggins too. Calipari is just better than Self at going those types of players.
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KU's class is better than any other KU class imo because it doesn't have a for sure one and done.
Thanks, steve. I agree. I really like the way Self is building this program.
:cheers:
It's a nice class, but didn't Self TRY and get a one and done?
Oh yeah... we wanted Randle, and I'm sure we want Wiggins too. Calipari is just better than Self at going those types of players.
Are you saying that he pays more for "those types of players" or is he just a better recruiter?
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KU has the #3 ranked recruiting class for next year.
#12 #26 -Wayne seldon 6'5 220lb SG/SF(will be like bmac but way better off the dribble)
#28 #37-Joel Embiid 6'11" 230lb C(this dude is nasty...check out his clips) youtube search Judge, Wally
#43#25 -Brannen Greene 6'6" 215lb SG(can flat out shoot)
#47 #31-Conner Frankamp 6'0" 155lb PG(the next Kirk hinrich :lol:, dominated on the USA team)
#134-frank mason 6'0" 175lb PG(next Sherron Collins only lighter :lol:)
so see KU is in great position to be a contender next year along with our return players. we still have a shot at Andrew Wiggins who the experts say is the best prospect since Lebron(doubt he comes here but who knows)
I'm not sure if my corrected rankings do to your argument but, at the very least, you don't know how to use the interwebs very well.
So, seldon is going to be the #1 pick next year?
Frankamp is no Captain Kirk. KH was an absolute freak in HS and much taller than Frankamp. Conner is a bitch and is going to be somewhere between Tyrel Reed and Jeff Boschee.
Frank Mason is no Sherron. Maybe lighter than him (who isn't? :dunno:)...but definitely not close talent-wise. He'll probably be better than Tharpe, though...
check ESPN 100....idk where you are getting your rankings but they are wrong
Rivals.
mark my words...seldon and frankamp will be a thorn in KSTATE's side
Seldon? Likely. Franky? less likely.
just watch
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Frankamp will be a very good 4 year player.
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Self went out and got a great class of 3-4 year players. Minus Selden. I think he's a two year guy.
If he manages to land Wiggins to bridge the gap between this year and 2014-2015, it will no doubt be his best class at KU.
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Self went out and got a great class of 3-4 year players. Minus Selden. I think he's a two year guy.
If he manages to land Wiggins to bridge the gap between this year and 2014-2015, it will no doubt be his best class at KU.
KU is not getting Wiggins. I would love if it would happen, but it is not happening.
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Self went out and got a great class of 3-4 year players. Minus Selden. I think he's a two year guy.
If he manages to land Wiggins to bridge the gap between this year and 2014-2015, it will no doubt be his best class at KU.
KU is not getting Wiggins. I would love if it would happen, but it is not happening.
That's a little assumptive, no? FSU tanked this year and though I believe they are a big player for him, that had to hurt a bit. Wiggins isn't the kind of kid who loves the recruiting process. He's also not the kind of kid who loves the spotlight. Where is the spotlight going to shine brightest next year? Kentucky. Brightest on him? Florida State.
I don't think we're the favorite. And those characterizations I made above are from recruiting "experts". But in recent weeks, it has become less clear who his favorite is. People have said to not count out Kansas or North Carolina.
I don't know if it's the Randle letdown that has you waving the white flag so early or what but it's totally dumb to do so. When we're one of four finalists, we have a shot.
I believe that UK and FSU are still the leaders for him. But I don't think UNC and KU are too far behind.
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Self went out and got a great class of 3-4 year players. Minus Selden. I think he's a two year guy.
If he manages to land Wiggins to bridge the gap between this year and 2014-2015, it will no doubt be his best class at KU.
KU is not getting Wiggins. I would love if it would happen, but it is not happening.
That's a little assumptive, no? FSU tanked this year and though I believe they are a big player for him, that had to hurt a bit. Wiggins isn't the kind of kid who loves the recruiting process. He's also not the kind of kid who loves the spotlight. Where is the spotlight going to shine brightest next year? Kentucky. Brightest on him? Florida State.
I don't think we're the favorite. And those characterizations I made above are from recruiting "experts". But in recent weeks, it has become less clear who his favorite is. People have said to not count out Kansas or North Carolina.
I don't know if it's the Randle letdown that has you waving the white flag so early or what but it's totally dumb to do so. When we're one of four finalists, we have a shot.
I believe that UK and FSU are still the leaders for him. But I don't think UNC and KU are too far behind.
I don't give a eff.
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Is this the Selby effect?
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Self went out and got a great class of 3-4 year players. Minus Selden. I think he's a two year guy.
If he manages to land Wiggins to bridge the gap between this year and 2014-2015, it will no doubt be his best class at KU.
KU is not getting Wiggins. I would love if it would happen, but it is not happening.
That's a little assumptive, no? FSU tanked this year and though I believe they are a big player for him, that had to hurt a bit. Wiggins isn't the kind of kid who loves the recruiting process. He's also not the kind of kid who loves the spotlight. Where is the spotlight going to shine brightest next year? Kentucky. Brightest on him? Florida State.
I don't think we're the favorite. And those characterizations I made above are from recruiting "experts". But in recent weeks, it has become less clear who his favorite is. People have said to not count out Kansas or North Carolina.
I don't know if it's the Randle letdown that has you waving the white flag so early or what but it's totally dumb to do so. When we're one of four finalists, we have a shot.
I believe that UK and FSU are still the leaders for him. But I don't think UNC and KU are too far behind.
It is just me looking at the recent track record with top recruits. KU gets visits from them, but can't close the deal. I honestly think he is going to go to UNC. I don't have a good reason why, just my gut feeling.
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All big time recruits love the spotlight.
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I thought the deal with Wiggins was that he was/had to go to a Nike school.
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KU has the #3 ranked recruiting class for next year.
#12 #26 -Wayne seldon 6'5 220lb SG/SF(will be like bmac but way better off the dribble)
#28 #37-Joel Embiid 6'11" 230lb C(this dude is nasty...check out his clips) youtube search Judge, Wally
#43#25 -Brannen Greene 6'6" 215lb SG(can flat out shoot)
#47 #31-Conner Frankamp 6'0" 155lb PG(the next Kirk hinrich :lol:, dominated on the USA team)
#134-frank mason 6'0" 175lb PG(next Sherron Collins only lighter :lol:)
so see KU is in great position to be a contender next year along with our return players. we still have a shot at Andrew Wiggins who the experts say is the best prospect since Lebron(doubt he comes here but who knows)
I'm not sure if my corrected rankings do to your argument but, at the very least, you don't know how to use the interwebs very well.
So, seldon is going to be the #1 pick next year?
Frankamp is no Captain Kirk. KH was an absolute freak in HS and much taller than Frankamp. Conner is a bitch and is going to be somewhere between Tyrel Reed and Jeff Boschee.
Frank Mason is no Sherron. Maybe lighter than him (who isn't? :dunno:)...but definitely not close talent-wise. He'll probably be better than Tharpe, though...
a lot of dumb here. Kirk Hinrich wasn't close to as accomplished and polished as frankamp is at the same age. Hinrich wasn't that highly recruited, collison was. Hinrich jumped into the top 100 at #62 in the final rankings. frankamp has been a top 40 guy all along and played on (led in scoring) the u17 USA team etc... He dominated aau ball, hinrich didn't really develop into the player that we remember until his frosh and soph years at ku. now, frankamp dropped in the rankings the last year and i'm sure there are theories on why but the fact remains: frankamp>hinrich and it's not even close when comparing high school/ aau/ international level accomplishments.
mason is ranked well below tharpe for a reason, he might be a diamond in the rough but only time will tell. KU already has two guys that can handle the ball coming in (selden and frankamp) so mason is a project and probable bench warmer.
Selden is probably not a one and done. he is though a very good player and has the body and game to step in and play right away.
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KU has the #3 ranked recruiting class for next year.
#12 #26 -Wayne seldon 6'5 220lb SG/SF(will be like bmac but way better off the dribble)
#28 #37-Joel Embiid 6'11" 230lb C(this dude is nasty...check out his clips) youtube search Judge, Wally
#43#25 -Brannen Greene 6'6" 215lb SG(can flat out shoot)
#47 #31-Conner Frankamp 6'0" 155lb PG(the next Kirk hinrich :lol:, dominated on the USA team)
#134-frank mason 6'0" 175lb PG(next Sherron Collins only lighter :lol:)
so see KU is in great position to be a contender next year along with our return players. we still have a shot at Andrew Wiggins who the experts say is the best prospect since Lebron(doubt he comes here but who knows)
I'm not sure if my corrected rankings do to your argument but, at the very least, you don't know how to use the interwebs very well.
So, seldon is going to be the #1 pick next year?
Frankamp is no Captain Kirk. KH was an absolute freak in HS and much taller than Frankamp. Conner is a bitch and is going to be somewhere between Tyrel Reed and Jeff Boschee.
Frank Mason is no Sherron. Maybe lighter than him (who isn't? :dunno:)...but definitely not close talent-wise. He'll probably be better than Tharpe, though...
a lot of dumb here. Kirk Hinrich wasn't close to as accomplished and polished as frankamp is at the same age. Hinrich wasn't that highly recruited, collison was. Hinrich jumped into the top 100 at #62 in the final rankings. frankamp has been a top 40 guy all along and played on (led in scoring) the u17 USA team etc... He dominated aau ball, hinrich didn't really develop into the player that we remember until his frosh and soph years at ku. now, frankamp dropped in the rankings the last year and i'm sure there are theories on why but the fact remains: frankamp>hinrich and it's not even close when comparing high school/ aau/ international level accomplishments.
mason is ranked well below tharpe for a reason, he might be a diamond in the rough but only time will tell. KU already has two guys that can handle the ball coming in (selden and frankamp) so mason is a project and probable bench warmer.
Selden is probably not a one and done. he is though a very good player and has the body and game to step in and play right away.
I think Frankamp will really struggle in the transition. He's significantly shorter and not nearly as explosive as Captain Kirk. He's also a little bitch and is a horrible teammate. PE happens to hate him, too.
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Frankamp got shut down in the state tourney
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Hutch High had a kid that I am family friends with that absolute shut him down in Sub State. Held him to like 13 points. Hutch plays extremely physical and aggressive defense. Kid that guarded him is tough as nails and would be a great indication of how he will be guarded at the D1 level. FYI he is 5' 6" with shoes on. CF had a good 4 inches on him and couldn't get clean shots off.
http://hutchnews.com/justpreps/hutchinson/0302-hutch-high-basketball (http://hutchnews.com/justpreps/hutchinson/0302-hutch-high-basketball)
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Hutch High had a kid that I am family friends with that absolute shut him down in Sub State. Held him to like 13 points. Hutch plays extremely physical and aggressive defense. Kid that guarded him is tough as nails and would be a great indication of how he will be guarded at the D1 level. FYI he is 5' 6" with shoes on. CF had a good 4 inches on him and couldn't get clean shots off.
http://hutchnews.com/justpreps/hutchinson/0302-hutch-high-basketball (http://hutchnews.com/justpreps/hutchinson/0302-hutch-high-basketball)
Shut down by a midget! :lol:
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Hutch High had a kid that I am family friends with that absolute shut him down in Sub State. Held him to like 13 points. Hutch plays extremely physical and aggressive defense. Kid that guarded him is tough as nails and would be a great indication of how he will be guarded at the D1 level. FYI he is 5' 6" with shoes on. CF had a good 4 inches on him and couldn't get clean shots off.
http://hutchnews.com/justpreps/hutchinson/0302-hutch-high-basketball (http://hutchnews.com/justpreps/hutchinson/0302-hutch-high-basketball)
Shut down by a midget! :lol:
yet he's better than any recruit Kstate has coming in :)
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It's way better than AFH and everyone already knows that.
are you speaking of AFH West in Manhattan, AFH in Lawrence or AFH East in KC? Seems we dominate in all 3 buildings
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I've never understood why KU fans hate Duke so much. They're really, really butthurt about Duke.
All the blue bloods hate Duke, because Duke does what they do, but does a better and cleaner job of it.
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I've never understood why KU fans hate Duke so much. They're really, really butthurt about Duke.
All the blue bloods hate Duke, because Duke does what they do, but does a better and cleaner job of it.
This.
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Hutch High had a kid that I am family friends with that absolute shut him down in Sub State. Held him to like 13 points. Hutch plays extremely physical and aggressive defense. Kid that guarded him is tough as nails and would be a great indication of how he will be guarded at the D1 level. FYI he is 5' 6" with shoes on. CF had a good 4 inches on him and couldn't get clean shots off.
http://hutchnews.com/justpreps/hutchinson/0302-hutch-high-basketball (http://hutchnews.com/justpreps/hutchinson/0302-hutch-high-basketball)
Shut down by a midget! :lol:
yet he's better than any recruit Kstate has coming in :)
I disagree. eff you, though. :thumbsup:
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Hutch High had a kid that I am family friends with that absolute shut him down in Sub State. Held him to like 13 points. Hutch plays extremely physical and aggressive defense. Kid that guarded him is tough as nails and would be a great indication of how he will be guarded at the D1 level. FYI he is 5' 6" with shoes on. CF had a good 4 inches on him and couldn't get clean shots off.
http://hutchnews.com/justpreps/hutchinson/0302-hutch-high-basketball (http://hutchnews.com/justpreps/hutchinson/0302-hutch-high-basketball)
Shut down by a midget! :lol:
yet he's better than any recruit Kstate has coming in :)
I disagree. eff you, though. :thumbsup:
TITLETOWN!!!!
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Frankamp got shut down in the state tourney
And by team #STRUTnCUT
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mason is ranked well below tharpe for a reason.
ku will be fine with tharpe. he's a very good shooter and extremely quick. he seems to have fairly poor pg instincts and a relatively low bball iq, but he's not as bad as the guy ku had last year was as a soph, and he turned out fine. he'll learn.
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Butthurtville isnt handling this very well.
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Butthurtville isnt handling this very well.
I know right? when they win they say titletown, when they lose they want their coach fired and say "it's our hobby sport" lol.
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Butthurtville isnt handling this very well.
I know right? when they win they say titletown, when they lose they want their coach fired and say "it's our hobby sport" lol.
We've always said its our hobby sport. It's just about everyone's hobby sport outside of some one dimensional loser schools.
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:frown:
Lock this MF'er up if you want. . . (63 votes)
...or go ahead and 1-star away, but Ben is not an NBA-caliber player right now. If he thinks the lights were bright this weekend, what the hell does he expect when he gets paid to go 0-9 from the field?
Never in a million years would I have thought benching him in favour of Naadir Tharpe would be a genius move, but it's impossible to argue it today.
I love Ben's game when it's on. But he needs more seasoning.
I have felt that for weeks. I have not mentioned it on this board for the simple reason that I did not want the fight that would have ensued. He is not mentally ready for the next level.
All the fans I was around were getting really grumpy saying he isn't ready. Definitely needs to stay another year. He can't do anything away from AFH. He needs another year so he isn't another flameout.
Ben needs to come back. I know he could get drafted on potential, but in order for him to be the best pro he could be, he needs at least one more year of development.
So begins the annual "Player X is not NBA ready because I really want him to play for KU another season."
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KU has multiple Big 12 titles this year in multiple sports. Swept K-State in everything but our hobby sport.