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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: chum1 on February 21, 2013, 08:07:07 PM
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This morning, my boss tells me that I'm probably going to get written up for rough ridin' up some part of a project. This afternoon, I contact HR and tell them about how I've been asking to be removed from this project (which I only work on for a day every two months) for the past year because I was concerned about rough ridin' something up. What's going to happen? Will HR do the right thing and tell my bosses to remove me?
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Wouldn't it be easier to quit rough ridin' up?
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I hope so, chum. I had to go over my boss and straight to my director recently. She's lovely (director), but I'm hoping this doesn't come back to bite me in the end. We're having a meeting with HR over the phone soon. Best of luck, bud.
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This morning, my boss tells me that I'm probably going to get written up for rough ridin' up some part of a project. This afternoon, I contact HR and tell them about how I've been asking to be removed from this project (which I only work on for a day every two months) for the past year because I was concerned about rough ridin' something up. What's going to happen? Will HR do the right thing and tell my bosses to remove me?
fanning probably has some great advice, I'd get with him on this one.
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protip: HR is not your advocate. Exactly the opposite in fact.
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please tell me your project is not to sometimes go out and shut off leaking gas lines
if that's not it, you probably good
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yes
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Sounds like the place you work at sucks and your boss is an bad person. You ever think about looking for a new job?
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Wouldn't it be easier to quit rough ridin' up?
No. Nearly impossible. The people in charge are incompetent.
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I hope so, chum. I had to go over my boss and straight to my director recently. She's lovely (director), but I'm hoping this doesn't come back to bite me in the end. We're having a meeting with HR over the phone soon. Best of luck, bud.
Good luck to you, too! Keep us posted.
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protip: HR is not your advocate. Exactly the opposite in fact.
Oh, crap.
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yes
Oh, thank God.
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Wouldn't it be easier to quit rough ridin' up?
No. Nearly impossible. The people in charge are incompetent.
shitty employees always blame the boss. Or so I've heard.
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All bosses are dogshit. Or so I've seen.
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Wouldn't it be easier to quit rough ridin' up?
No. Nearly impossible. The people in charge are incompetent.
shitty employees always blame the boss. Or so I've heard.
:dubious: What if your manager made a in house rule to you not to date other employees and at the same time was effing another manager who's married to another manager and tries to force information out of you in secret meetings cause "you're the likeable guy in the office" & " I know ppl are talking to you"
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Human Resources.....can't live with them, and can't live with out them.
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Wouldn't it be easier to quit rough ridin' up?
No. Nearly impossible. The people in charge are incompetent.
shitty employees always blame the boss. Or so I've heard.
:dubious: What if your manager made a in house rule to you not to date other employees and at the same time was effing another manager who's married to another manager and tries to force information out of you in secret meetings cause "you're the likeable guy in the office" & " I know ppl are talking to you"
Blackmail. Next question.
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Wouldn't it be easier to quit rough ridin' up?
No. Nearly impossible. The people in charge are incompetent.
shitty employees always blame the boss. Or so I've heard.
:dubious: What if your manager made a in house rule to you not to date other employees and at the same time was effing another manager who's married to another manager and tries to force information out of you in secret meetings cause "you're the likeable guy in the office" & " I know ppl are talking to you"
:lol:
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Wouldn't it be easier to quit rough ridin' up?
No. Nearly impossible. The people in charge are incompetent.
shitty employees always blame the boss. Or so I've heard.
:dubious: What if your manager made a in house rule to you not to date other employees and at the same time was effing another manager who's married to another manager and tries to force information out of you in secret meetings cause "you're the likeable guy in the office" & " I know ppl are talking to you"
Blackmail. Next question.
Yep, I only wish I had found myself in a similar sitch. Back pocket that and plan for something big. Don't waste it on a broken car or an isu roadie either. However, you need to get something that you can keep that can prove this w/o a doubt.
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Wouldn't it be easier to quit rough ridin' up?
No. Nearly impossible. The people in charge are incompetent.
shitty employees always blame the boss. Or so I've heard.
:dubious: What if your manager made a in house rule to you not to date other employees and at the same time was effing another manager who's married to another manager and tries to force information out of you in secret meetings cause "you're the likeable guy in the office" & " I know ppl are talking to you"
fanning's life = wow
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Wouldn't it be easier to quit rough ridin' up?
No. Nearly impossible. The people in charge are incompetent.
shitty employees always blame the boss. Or so I've heard.
:dubious: What if your manager made a in house rule to you not to date other employees and at the same time was effing another manager who's married to another manager and tries to force information out of you in secret meetings cause "you're the likeable guy in the office" & " I know ppl are talking to you"
You sure do post a lot of personal information for someone who has their full name and address on the board.
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Wouldn't it be easier to quit rough ridin' up?
No. Nearly impossible. The people in charge are incompetent.
shitty employees always blame the boss. Or so I've heard.
:dubious: What if your manager made a in house rule to you not to date other employees and at the same time was effing another manager who's married to another manager and tries to force information out of you in secret meetings cause "you're the likeable guy in the office" & " I know ppl are talking to you"
fanning's life = wow
Agreed. Fantastic read
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Wouldn't it be easier to quit rough ridin' up?
No. Nearly impossible. The people in charge are incompetent.
shitty employees always blame the boss. Or so I've heard.
:dubious: What if your manager made a in house rule to you not to date other employees and at the same time was effing another manager who's married to another manager and tries to force information out of you in secret meetings cause "you're the likeable guy in the office" & " I know ppl are talking to you"
You sure do post a lot of personal information for someone who has their full name and address on the board.
I worked in media when I started here and on twitter. It was totally acceptable for me to have my information out there. Sorry I don't like to keep silent about such a egregious situation.
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With the name change to Whackycat08, I think fanning has done a pretty good job of concealing his identity.
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such a egregious situation
could fanning be more rough ridin' adorable?
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such a egregious situation
could fanning be more rough ridin' adorable?
:blush:
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such a egregious situation
could fanning WackyCat08 be more rough ridin' adorable?
Answer: Nope.
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I'm considering filing a complaint with HR myself. The free lunch provided by the company every Friday is set up and ready by 11:30 every week. It is 12:08 and the caterer has not here yet.
Unacceptable.
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he's really good at turning on/off the adorable factor when switching between his fanning/wackycat account and his willesgirl account. it's like night and day
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such a egregious situation
could fanning be more rough ridin' adorable?
I've seen his twitter profile pic. The answer is no.
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Did Fanning change his name? I've been sniffing glue for a few hours...
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Who's fanning?
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Wouldn't it be easier to quit rough ridin' up?
No. Nearly impossible. The people in charge are incompetent.
shitty employees always blame the boss. Or so I've heard.
:dubious: What if your manager made a in house rule to you not to date other employees and at the same time was effing another manager who's married to another manager and tries to force information out of you in secret meetings cause "you're the likeable guy in the office" & " I know ppl are talking to you"
Get this guy/girl a TV show. Must watch
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Wouldn't it be easier to quit rough ridin' up?
No. Nearly impossible. The people in charge are incompetent.
shitty employees always blame the boss. Or so I've heard.
:dubious: What if your manager made a in house rule to you not to date other employees and at the same time was effing another manager who's married to another manager and tries to force information out of you in secret meetings cause "you're the likeable guy in the office" & " I know ppl are talking to you"
Get this guy/girl a TV show. Must watch
Fanning would be perfect for the Joe Schmo Show
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Agree with the sentiment that HR is not your friend. If you ever feel the need to go to HR about anything other than something like quid pro quo sexual harassment, you are mumped already. Better to start looking for a new job.
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I have honestly not had any contact at all with hr since my first day. Absolutely none.
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I have honestly not had any contact at all with hr since my first day. Absolutely none.
yeah, me too
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I have honestly not had any contact at all with hr since my first day. Absolutely none.
yeah, me too
Neither have I, thank god.
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This is my first time, but totally warranted.
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This is my first time, but totally warranted.
It's not unwarranted, but you are probably better off looking for another job anyway, because that sounds like a disaster.
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I'm really confused why you are going to HR to get out of doing essential functions and duties of your job. Can you elaborate a bit?
Also agreed that HR is not your advocate. They are there to keep the company from being sued.
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This is my first time, but totally warranted.
It's not unwarranted, but you are probably better off looking for another job anyway, because that sounds like a disaster.
Oh, I agree, but the guy is on a rampage and paranoid everyday. I'm just protecting myself until I can find something.
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I'm really confused why you are going to HR to get out of doing essential functions and duties of your job. Can you elaborate a bit?
Also agreed that HR is not your advocate. They are there to keep the company from being sued.
My problem is caused by my bosses being either stubborn or lazy and not treating their reports equally. (They haven't listened to my concerns for a year and aren't requiring of my cowrkers what they're requiring of me.) Whether or not you want to call it advocacy, it's HR's job to handle issues like that.
I've only heard one HR story before and the outcome was good.
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I'm really confused why you are going to HR to get out of doing essential functions and duties of your job. Can you elaborate a bit?
Also agreed that HR is not your advocate. They are there to keep the company from being sued.
My problem is caused by my bosses being either stubborn or lazy and not treating their reports equally. (They haven't listened to my concerns for a year and aren't requiring of my cowrkers what they're requiring of me.) Whether or not you want to call it advocacy, it's HR's job to handle issues like that.
I've only heard one HR story before and the outcome was good.
Is that really HR's job at all?
Whether it's their job or not, all they are going to do is go to your manager and say "here's exactly what Chum said to us about you, verbatim."
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Lets all quit our jobs and move to MHK and follow the cats around until our retirement runs out. Then we can all do odd jobs around town. What does everyone think of that?
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are you ok with the moniker "weird applejack"?
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Lets all quit our jobs and move to MHK and follow the cats around until our retirement runs out. Then we can all do odd jobs around town. What does everyone think of that?
I was under the impression that a lot of us would have jobs once goEMAW builds their cinderblock office in Aggieville
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I'm really confused why you are going to HR to get out of doing essential functions and duties of your job. Can you elaborate a bit?
Also agreed that HR is not your advocate. They are there to keep the company from being sued.
My problem is caused by my bosses being either stubborn or lazy and not treating their reports equally. (They haven't listened to my concerns for a year and aren't requiring of my cowrkers what they're requiring of me.) Whether or not you want to call it advocacy, it's HR's job to handle issues like that.
I've only heard one HR story before and the outcome was good.
Is that really HR's job at all?
Whether it's their job or not, all they are going to do is go to your manager and say "here's exactly what Chum said to us about you, verbatim."
Yes, that's part of their job. When I looked on their webpage for the right number to call, it said "for such and such problems, dial ..." They do more than just tell your boss what you told them. They're responsible for resolving problems. You guys sound like a bunch of wusses.
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are you ok with the moniker "weird applejack"?
:weirdrobert:
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I'm really confused why you are going to HR to get out of doing essential functions and duties of your job. Can you elaborate a bit?
Also agreed that HR is not your advocate. They are there to keep the company from being sued.
My problem is caused by my bosses being either stubborn or lazy and not treating their reports equally. (They haven't listened to my concerns for a year and aren't requiring of my cowrkers what they're requiring of me.) Whether or not you want to call it advocacy, it's HR's job to handle issues like that.
I've only heard one HR story before and the outcome was good.
Is that really HR's job at all?
Whether it's their job or not, all they are going to do is go to your manager and say "here's exactly what Chum said to us about you, verbatim."
Yes, that's part of their job. When I looked on their webpage for the right number to call, it said "for such and such problems, dial ..." They do more than just tell your boss what you told them. They're responsible for resolving problems. You guys sound like a bunch of wusses.
You are the one going to HR instead of talking to your bosses. I bet your boss will think going to HR was "wuss," won't he/she?
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I'm really confused why you are going to HR to get out of doing essential functions and duties of your job. Can you elaborate a bit?
Also agreed that HR is not your advocate. They are there to keep the company from being sued.
My problem is caused by my bosses being either stubborn or lazy and not treating their reports equally. (They haven't listened to my concerns for a year and aren't requiring of my cowrkers what they're requiring of me.) Whether or not you want to call it advocacy, it's HR's job to handle issues like that.
I've only heard one HR story before and the outcome was good.
Is that really HR's job at all?
Whether it's their job or not, all they are going to do is go to your manager and say "here's exactly what Chum said to us about you, verbatim."
Yes, that's part of their job. When I looked on their webpage for the right number to call, it said "for such and such problems, dial ..." They do more than just tell your boss what you told them. They're responsible for resolving problems. You guys sound like a bunch of wusses.
Are you in Kansas?
Also HR's job is to make sure that you aren't in a hostile work environment, ie: something you could sue the company for. What would be idea is if you could gin up some documentation that your boss is giving you extra work because you're Asian and good at math or something else like that.
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My HR conversations consist of "Do I have enough documentation to fire this person"
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I'm really confused why you are going to HR to get out of doing essential functions and duties of your job. Can you elaborate a bit?
Also agreed that HR is not your advocate. They are there to keep the company from being sued.
My problem is caused by my bosses being either stubborn or lazy and not treating their reports equally. (They haven't listened to my concerns for a year and aren't requiring of my cowrkers what they're requiring of me.) Whether or not you want to call it advocacy, it's HR's job to handle issues like that.
I've only heard one HR story before and the outcome was good.
Is that really HR's job at all?
Whether it's their job or not, all they are going to do is go to your manager and say "here's exactly what Chum said to us about you, verbatim."
Yes, that's part of their job. When I looked on their webpage for the right number to call, it said "for such and such problems, dial ..." They do more than just tell your boss what you told them. They're responsible for resolving problems. You guys sound like a bunch of wusses.
You are the one going to HR instead of talking to your bosses. I bet your boss will think going to HR was "wuss," won't he/she?
I've been talking to my bosses about it for a year. They've been blowing me off all along. That's a big no-no.
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I'm really confused why you are going to HR to get out of doing essential functions and duties of your job. Can you elaborate a bit?
Also agreed that HR is not your advocate. They are there to keep the company from being sued.
My problem is caused by my bosses being either stubborn or lazy and not treating their reports equally. (They haven't listened to my concerns for a year and aren't requiring of my cowrkers what they're requiring of me.) Whether or not you want to call it advocacy, it's HR's job to handle issues like that.
I've only heard one HR story before and the outcome was good.
Is that really HR's job at all?
Whether it's their job or not, all they are going to do is go to your manager and say "here's exactly what Chum said to us about you, verbatim."
Yes, that's part of their job. When I looked on their webpage for the right number to call, it said "for such and such problems, dial ..." They do more than just tell your boss what you told them. They're responsible for resolving problems. You guys sound like a bunch of wusses.
You are the one going to HR instead of talking to your bosses. I bet your boss will think going to HR was "wuss," won't he/she?
I've been talking to my bosses about it for a year. They've been blowing me off all along. That's a big no-no.
I am not familiar with working in an environment like you describe. You must really like your place of employment, apart from the particular bosses you describe.
Hope it works out man, but I'd start covering bases and looking around.
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I'm really confused why you are going to HR to get out of doing essential functions and duties of your job. Can you elaborate a bit?
Also agreed that HR is not your advocate. They are there to keep the company from being sued.
My problem is caused by my bosses being either stubborn or lazy and not treating their reports equally. (They haven't listened to my concerns for a year and aren't requiring of my cowrkers what they're requiring of me.) Whether or not you want to call it advocacy, it's HR's job to handle issues like that.
I've only heard one HR story before and the outcome was good.
Is that really HR's job at all?
Whether it's their job or not, all they are going to do is go to your manager and say "here's exactly what Chum said to us about you, verbatim."
Yes, that's part of their job. When I looked on their webpage for the right number to call, it said "for such and such problems, dial ..." They do more than just tell your boss what you told them. They're responsible for resolving problems. You guys sound like a bunch of wusses.
You are the one going to HR instead of talking to your bosses. I bet your boss will think going to HR was "wuss," won't he/she?
I've been talking to my bosses about it for a year. They've been blowing me off all along. That's a big no-no.
I am not familiar with working in an environment like you describe. You must really like your place of employment, apart from the particular bosses you describe.
Hope it works out man, but I'd start covering bases and looking around.
I work from home and rarely talk to anyone. I love that. I'm okay with my bosses, too. No one's perfect. They're perfectly welcome to fire me, though. They have nothing on me, so it would be without cause.
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I'm really confused why you are going to HR to get out of doing essential functions and duties of your job. Can you elaborate a bit?
Also agreed that HR is not your advocate. They are there to keep the company from being sued.
My problem is caused by my bosses being either stubborn or lazy and not treating their reports equally. (They haven't listened to my concerns for a year and aren't requiring of my cowrkers what they're requiring of me.) Whether or not you want to call it advocacy, it's HR's job to handle issues like that.
I've only heard one HR story before and the outcome was good.
Is that really HR's job at all?
Whether it's their job or not, all they are going to do is go to your manager and say "here's exactly what Chum said to us about you, verbatim."
Yes, that's part of their job. When I looked on their webpage for the right number to call, it said "for such and such problems, dial ..." They do more than just tell your boss what you told them. They're responsible for resolving problems. You guys sound like a bunch of wusses.
You are the one going to HR instead of talking to your bosses. I bet your boss will think going to HR was "wuss," won't he/she?
I've been talking to my bosses about it for a year. They've been blowing me off all along. That's a big no-no.
I am not familiar with working in an environment like you describe. You must really like your place of employment, apart from the particular bosses you describe.
Hope it works out man, but I'd start covering bases and looking around.
I work from home and rarely talk to anyone. I love that. I'm okay with my bosses, too. No one's perfect. They're perfectly welcome to fire me, though. They have nothing on me, so it would be without cause.
...unless this unreasonableness with your objections is a way for them to start to trump up "cause."
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Going over the bosses head never ends well for the subordinate. I've watched many a scrub try it and end up with more of a work load than they had before they complained.
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I'm really confused why you are going to HR to get out of doing essential functions and duties of your job. Can you elaborate a bit?
Also agreed that HR is not your advocate. They are there to keep the company from being sued.
My problem is caused by my bosses being either stubborn or lazy and not treating their reports equally. (They haven't listened to my concerns for a year and aren't requiring of my cowrkers what they're requiring of me.) Whether or not you want to call it advocacy, it's HR's job to handle issues like that.
I've only heard one HR story before and the outcome was good.
Is that really HR's job at all?
Whether it's their job or not, all they are going to do is go to your manager and say "here's exactly what Chum said to us about you, verbatim."
Yes, that's part of their job. When I looked on their webpage for the right number to call, it said "for such and such problems, dial ..." They do more than just tell your boss what you told them. They're responsible for resolving problems. You guys sound like a bunch of wusses.
You are the one going to HR instead of talking to your bosses. I bet your boss will think going to HR was "wuss," won't he/she?
I've been talking to my bosses about it for a year. They've been blowing me off all along. That's a big no-no.
I am not familiar with working in an environment like you describe. You must really like your place of employment, apart from the particular bosses you describe.
Hope it works out man, but I'd start covering bases and looking around.
I work from home and rarely talk to anyone. I love that. I'm okay with my bosses, too. No one's perfect. They're perfectly welcome to fire me, though. They have nothing on me, so it would be without cause.
...unless this unreasonableness with your objections is a way for them to start to trump up "cause."
HR will be super sensitive to that for fear that it could appear to be retaliation. And, of course, if my boss wants to fire me, he needs HR's approval.
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Going over the bosses head never ends well for the subordinate. I've watched many a scrub try it and end up with more of a work load than they had before they complained.
It's not over their head. It's HR. I mean, I didn't pay much attention during orientation, either, but I did pick up SOME things.
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Going over the bosses head never ends well for the subordinate. I've watched many a scrub try it and end up with more of a work load than they had before they complained.
It's not over their head. It's HR. I mean, I didn't pay much attention during orientation, either, but I did pick up SOME things.
Did you inform your boss that you are going to talk to HR?
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Going over the bosses head never ends well for the subordinate. I've watched many a scrub try it and end up with more of a work load than they had before they complained.
It's not over their head. It's HR. I mean, I didn't pay much attention during orientation, either, but I did pick up SOME things.
Did you inform your boss that you are going to talk to HR?
It's complicated. The guy I report to (aka the guy who can fire me) isn't the guy in charge of the project. And the guy I report to tried to help me, so he's in the clear. So, no, I didn't. It doesn't matter, though, because they really can't in any way appear to be discouraging you from going to HR. That would be making a bad situation worse. And if you've already determined that you need HR's help with talking to them, why would you talk to them without HR? To threaten them? Bad idea. Telling them you're going to HR is pointless.
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A lot of paranoid bosses in this thread.
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Would fire all of your asses if I were your boss and stumbled upon your posts.
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Would fire all of your asses if I were your boss and stumbled upon your posts.
See previous post. Blow hard.
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didn't really expect this thread from chum :surprised:
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didn't really expect this thread from chum :surprised:
Always been a fan, he just amplified in my book.
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Had "interview" with HR today. She sort of grilled me for a while, like she was testing the strength of my case. Then, she was like, "Okay, I think there are some questions here that need to be answered. So, with your permission, I'll talk to your manager." Then, she was telling me how she was plotting some story so it didn't sound like I was calling in to complain, that I just had questions about being written up or something.
When she first called yesterday to set up an appointment, she was all like, "Can you talk? Do you need to go to another location?"
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sounds scary :ohno:
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It's not pleasant, but if things have come this far, you feel like it's one of those things you've just gotta do.
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But she was super nice - especially after the grilling.
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HR chicks are super cool when you get them away from the HR lair and get them drunk. They have the best stories.
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:dubious: What if your manager made a in house rule to you not to date other employees and at the same time was effing another manager who's married to another manager and tries to force information out of you in secret meetings cause "you're the likeable guy in the office" & " I know ppl are talking to you"
What in the world?
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working in HR seems like one of the worst jobs ever invented.
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Working in any corporate setting is terrible
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Working in any corporate setting is terrible
word. ending up in the corporate world is one of my biggest fears :ohno:
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i think it would have been better just to be a pain in the ass to your manager so he'd want to transfer you to something you are qualified for. like handing me my order at the drive thru. he-he. he-he. PWNT.
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HR chicks are super cool when you get them away from the HR lair and get them drunk. They have the best stories.
Totally
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HR chicks are super cool when you get them away from the HR lair and get them drunk. They have the best stories.
Totally
Last year at the Christmas party allegedly employee A banged employee B's wife. :sdeek:
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Working in any corporate setting is terrible
word. ending up in the corporate world is one of my biggest fears :ohno:
I did it for the last 13 months, basically 13 months of :bang:.
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what would you consider not corporate? Small biz under 50 employees, self employed?
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I work for a company with about 350,000 employees. Is that corporate?
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what would you consider not corporate? Small biz under 50 employees, self employed?
yes to both.
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HR people are accountants who are bad at math.
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There are good corporations and bad corporations to work for. it's the same for small businesses.
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i meant being a cubicle drone and not mattering in the overall picture. not about the size of the company.
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It's okay to not matter as long as you're making bank and you're happy. And actually just the second one.
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It's okay to not matter as long as you're making bank and you're happy. And actually just the second one.
that's like, your opinion, man.
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What's wrong with being happy Emo Seven?
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What's wrong with being happy Emo Seven?
being a cog does not make me happy. i don't care about money (to a certain point), honestly.
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I didn't care about $ until I got a journalism job and I was like "eff, it's kinda important to live". Best of luck, chum.
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I didn't care about $ until I got a journalism job and I was like "eff, it's kinda important to live". Best of luck, chum.
Are most people in media dead? Would you have died if you stayed in media?
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I didn't care about $ until I got a journalism job and I was like "eff, it's kinda important to live". Best of luck, chum.
i lived for a long time on less than what you probably make. and i was happy until i started not liking my job. which is why i'm in school now to get a different job.
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Had "interview" with HR today. She sort of grilled me for a while, like she was testing the strength of my case. Then, she was like, "Okay, I think there are some questions here that need to be answered. So, with your permission, I'll talk to your manager." Then, she was telling me how she was plotting some story so it didn't sound like I was calling in to complain, that I just had questions about being written up or something.
When she first called yesterday to set up an appointment, she was all like, "Can you talk? Do you need to go to another location?"
You gonna bang her?
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I didn't care about $ until I got a journalism job and I was like "eff, it's kinda important to live". Best of luck, chum.
Are most people in media dead? Would you have died if you stayed in media?
I feel like rent and student loan payments are important. Hard too be a valued individual in this society if you can't complete those two operations. I get asked everyday if I miss it, but the truth is, "no"! No one cares about "your call" and it wasn't worth working a 2nd job just so ppl could talk crap on you for your current position. It's better to do it on the side when you can enjoy it for hobby.
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I didn't care about $ until I got a journalism job and I was like "eff, it's kinda important to live". Best of luck, chum.
Are most people in media dead? Would you have died if you stayed in media?
I feel like rent and student loan payments are important. Hard too be a valued individual in this society if you can't complete those two operations. I get asked everyday if I miss it, but the truth is, "no"! No one cares about "your call" and it wasn't worth working a 2nd job just so ppl could talk crap on you for your current position. It's better to do it on the side when you can enjoy it for hobby.
But lots of people are in media and pay rent and student loans off without second jobs.
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I didn't care about $ until I got a journalism job and I was like "eff, it's kinda important to live". Best of luck, chum.
Are most people in media dead? Would you have died if you stayed in media?
I feel like rent and student loan payments are important. Hard too be a valued individual in this society if you can't complete those two operations. I get asked everyday if I miss it, but the truth is, "no"! No one cares about "your call" and it wasn't worth working a 2nd job just so ppl could talk crap on you for your current position. It's better to do it on the side when you can enjoy it for hobby.
But lots of people are in media and pay rent and student loans off without second jobs.
I understand that bud, but I've never been in that position. I grew up in two bankruptcy's in the fam. I hold tight. Had an opportunity to intern w/ espn on my jr summer, but had to turn it down (unpaid). We all come from different places.
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What's wrong with being happy Emo Seven?
being a cog does not make me happy. i don't care about money (to a certain point), honestly.
You have to feel ownership in what you are doing. But being a small cog doesn't prevent you from doing that. I work for a super big global company and love the crap out of it. What happens in a certain market in a certain geographic area is mine. I own that. Also makes me better at my job to feel that way I think. Just take whatever it is you can influence and make it yours and take pride in it being good. That's really what you should be doing no matter what size of cog you are or how big your company is.
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The one corporate job I had there were rules regarding facial hair and color/brightness of dress shirts. I never understood why the 1 homosexual male was allowed to have a goatee and wear neon colored shirts everyday
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The one corporate job I had there were rules regarding facial hair and color/brightness of dress shirts. I never understood why the 1 homosexual male was allowed to have a goatee and wear neon colored shirts everyday
Maybe you should have called HR and informed them that you are bisexual or something. Then you could have worn whatever you wanted.
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The one corporate job I had there were rules regarding facial hair and color/brightness of dress shirts. I never understood why the 1 homosexual male was allowed to have a goatee and wear neon colored shirts everyday
:rolleyes:
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I know a guy who works for a "hip" design firm and was told on his first day that they were not allowed to wear khakis unless they are being "ironic".
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What's wrong with being happy Emo Seven?
being a cog does not make me happy. i don't care about money (to a certain point), honestly.
You have to feel ownership in what you are doing. But being a small cog doesn't prevent you from doing that. I work for a super big global company and love the crap out of it. What happens in a certain market in a certain geographic area is mine. I own that. Also makes me better at my job to feel that way I think. Just take whatever it is you can influence and make it yours and take pride in it being good. That's really what you should be doing no matter what size of cog you are or how big your company is.
same for me, pretty much. I think good companies break things down into small groups that have a lot of ownership over their group. I'm in a multi-billion dollar company but I really work with a small team that I like and I can easily see (and show others) the impact I make.
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What's wrong with being happy Emo Seven?
being a cog does not make me happy. i don't care about money (to a certain point), honestly.
You have to feel ownership in what you are doing. But being a small cog doesn't prevent you from doing that. I work for a super big global company and love the crap out of it. What happens in a certain market in a certain geographic area is mine. I own that. Also makes me better at my job to feel that way I think. Just take whatever it is you can influence and make it yours and take pride in it being good. That's really what you should be doing no matter what size of cog you are or how big your company is.
same for me, pretty much. I think good companies break things down into small groups that have a lot of ownership over their group. I'm in a multi-billion dollar company but I really work with a small team that I like and I can easily see (and show others) the impact I make.
sounds like you're really out there making a difference!! a cog? more like eff THAT!
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I hated the corporate deal because in my old company gave out raises and bonus based on company goals rather than individual performance. It was a largish company too, so some group of douches I could have never met before could effect my raise or bonus regardless of my performance.
Also, they gave no fucks about me or those around me. Was working crazy hours on jobs that were understaffed while they had ppl down the hall not even assigned to a job.
The best thing about big corporations is the training. I learned a ridic amount in a very structured environment in a very short time at my corporate job that would have taken me forever to learn otherwise.
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Pro Tip- there's a reason why the best and brightest don't work in mom and pop shops/small bus
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Every morning, I mill the paper that I use when developing new mathematical theorems to help me do my job. Super rewarding, you guys!
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Every morning, I mill the paper that I use when developing new mathematical theorems to help me do my job. Super rewarding, you guys!
if you're not millin' then you're worth killin' <---thats my motto
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Every morning, I mill the paper that I use when developing new mathematical theorems to help me do my job. Super rewarding, you guys!
if you're not millin' then you're worth killin' <---thats my motto
Mine: If you're not millin' it, then you're not killin' it. So close!
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Pro Tip- there's a reason why the best and brightest don't work in mom and pop shops/small bus
When I see someone that is super dominant at what they do, I always wonder why they do it for someone else's company.
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Pro Tip- there's a reason why the best and brightest don't work in mom and pop shops/small bus
When I see someone that is super dominant at what they do, I always wonder why they do it for someone else's company.
Because starting over sucks balls. That's why.
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Pro Tip- there's a reason why the best and brightest don't work in mom and pop shops/small bus
oh please
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there's a lot of small shops found in these lists-
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/best-companies/
http://money.cnn.com/gallery/news/companies/2013/01/17/best-companies-highest-paid.fortune/index.html?iid=bc_sp_lead
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I recently heard back from a medical sales gig :crossfingers:
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I recently heard back from a medical sales gig :crossfingers:
I have an soon-to-be in-law who sells some piece of medical equipment. She is :kstategrad: and she gets to travel to really awesome, exotic locations every six months where she gets to stay in amazing hotels in the presidential suites.
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there's a lot of small shops found in these lists-
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/best-companies/
http://money.cnn.com/gallery/news/companies/2013/01/17/best-companies-highest-paid.fortune/index.html?iid=bc_sp_lead
You would probably be surprised at how many of those started as small businesses.
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I recently heard back from a medical sales gig :crossfingers:
I have an soon-to-be in-law who sells some piece of medical equipment. She is :kstategrad: and she gets to travel to really awesome, exotic locations every six months where she gets to stay in amazing hotels in the presidential suites.
Yeah, it would be equipment. Sounds super elite.
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I don't know any poor ppl that sell med equipt. I do know two very wealthy ppl that do, though.
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Like no crap every big business started as a small business, that doesn't mean you can do it. A lot of those people are really rough ridin' smart and had great business sense. Not to mention it takes a little luck, too.
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I recently heard back from a medical sales gig :crossfingers:
I have an soon-to-be in-law who sells some piece of medical equipment. She is :kstategrad: and she gets to travel to really awesome, exotic locations every six months where she gets to stay in amazing hotels in the presidential suites.
Yeah, it would equipment. Sounds super elite.
that does sound super elite fanning
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What's wrong with being happy Emo Seven?
being a cog does not make me happy. i don't care about money (to a certain point), honestly.
You have to feel ownership in what you are doing. But being a small cog doesn't prevent you from doing that. I work for a super big global company and love the crap out of it. What happens in a certain market in a certain geographic area is mine. I own that. Also makes me better at my job to feel that way I think. Just take whatever it is you can influence and make it yours and take pride in it being good. That's really what you should be doing no matter what size of cog you are or how big your company is.
Sounds awesome, I hope to find something similar when I look for a job. I was just disagreeing that money is more important than being a drone.
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there's a lot of small shops found in these lists-
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/best-companies/
http://money.cnn.com/gallery/news/companies/2013/01/17/best-companies-highest-paid.fortune/index.html?iid=bc_sp_lead
You would probably be surprised at how many of those started as small businesses.
i wouldn't. and it doesn't matter in the context of this discussion.
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I also got another email just now by a company i'd like to work for. A couple of goEMAW'rs work there and linked me to it. T's & P's you guys. :crossfingers:
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Someone included you in their 300 names they had to give their boss. :thumbs:
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LOL, I bet they did. Next time somebody shows up at my doorstep trying to sell a vacuum cleaner, I'll send them Fanning's way.
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The HR woman called my boss. He told her thay they've been working on the problem. And that was about it. I was like, "so, they can just say that they're working on the problem indefinitely while never really needing to address it?" She gave me some non-answer bullshit in response.
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The HR woman called my boss. He told her thay they've been working on the problem. And that was about it. I was like, "so, they can just say that they're working on the problem indefinitely while never really needing to address it?" She gave me some non-answer bullshit in response.
Your boss sounds like he has done this before. Sorry brah.
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Going over the bosses head never ends well for the subordinate. I've watched many a scrub try it and end up with more of a work load than they had before they complained.
:users:
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Going over the bosses head never ends well for the subordinate. I've watched many a scrub try it and end up with more of a work load than they had before they complained.
:users:
I'm in a stronger position now than I was before, you coward.
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Going over the bosses head never ends well for the subordinate. I've watched many a scrub try it and end up with more of a work load than they had before they complained.
:users:
I'm in a stronger position now than I was before, you coward.
I'm not 100% sure you understand how "office politics" work.
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Going over the bosses head never ends well for the subordinate. I've watched many a scrub try it and end up with more of a work load than they had before they complained.
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I'm in a stronger position now than I was before, you coward.
If you were a stud at your job then there wouldn't be a problem in the first place. You shouldn't need a third party to resolve this issue. you pussy
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Now you have two superiors ignoring you. :lol:
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Going over the bosses head never ends well for the subordinate. I've watched many a scrub try it and end up with more of a work load than they had before they complained.
:users:
I'm in a stronger position now than I was before, you coward.
If you were a stud at your job then there wouldn't be a problem in the first place. You shouldn't need a third party to resolve this issue. you pussy
Nothing demonstrates strength like telling and then getting flat mushed by the person you told. He's pretty much the boss of everybody right now. Power move. Check and mate.
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Going over the bosses head never ends well for the subordinate. I've watched many a scrub try it and end up with more of a work load than they had before they complained.
:users:
I'm in a stronger position now than I was before, you coward.
If you were a stud at your job then there wouldn't be a problem in the first place. You shouldn't need a third party to resolve this issue. you pussy
Nothing demonstrates strength like telling and then getting flat mushed by the person you told. He's pretty much the boss of everybody right now. Power move. Check and mate.
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world: 0
oh man
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This is a tough situation. The HR route clearly didn't go in your favor. Have you tried urinating in some of your boss's plants or leaving a piece of your crap under their chair. Obviously the high route didn't take place, but vengeance could be cathartic for you.
Seriously though, could you have an open/civil discussion with your boss on how to improve your work on this project. Sometimes cowboying up and getting the job done is all that any of us can do.
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You guys are short sighted. Here's the upside: I'm now on record as having asked for a change and my boss is now on record saying that a change is coming. That's probably sufficient to cause a change within a few months. The worst case scenario is that six months pass, nothing happens, and HR wants to ask a lot more questions.
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I also got another email just now by a company i'd like to work for. A couple of goEMAW'rs work there and linked me to it. T's & P's you guys. :crossfingers:
eff Trim what did you do?
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I have a look I shoot my superiors when they try to big dog me and boss me around. I call it my "I'm gonna tell" face. It's a look of what you might describe as stern anxiety with just a pinch of crazed fear.
Superior: "Hey Bread I need you to do this professional work-related thing."
Bread: :comeatme:
Superior: "Maybe later, bud." :clac:
Bread: :babywillie:
Later never comes.
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I also got another email just now by a company i'd like to work for. A couple of goEMAW'rs work there and linked me to it. T's & P's you guys. :crossfingers:
eff Trim what did you do?
:lol:
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I have a look I shoot my superiors when they try to big dog me and boss me around. I call it my "I'm gonna tell" face. It's a look of what you might describe as stern anxiety with just a pinch of crazed fear.
Superior: "Hey Bread I need you to do this professional work-related thing."
Bread: :comeatme:
Superior: "Maybe later, bud." :clac:
Bread: :babywillie:
Later never comes.
:lol: