HR

[ednksu]

I'm really confused why you are going to HR to get out of doing essential functions and duties of your job.  Can you elaborate a bit?

Also agreed that HR is not your advocate.  They are there to keep the company from being sued.

My problem is caused by my bosses being either stubborn or lazy and not treating their reports equally.  (They haven't listened to my concerns for a year and aren't requiring of my cowrkers what they're requiring of me.) Whether or not you want to call it advocacy, it's HR's job to handle issues like that. 

I've only heard one HR story before and the outcome was good.   

Is that really HR's job at all?

Whether it's their job or not, all they are going to do is go to your manager and say "here's exactly what Chum said to us about you, verbatim."

Yes, that's part of their job.  When I looked on their webpage for the right number to call, it said "for such and such problems, dial ..." They do more than just tell your boss what you told them.  They're responsible for resolving problems.  You guys sound like a bunch of wusses.   

Are you in Kansas? 

Also HR's job is to make sure that you aren't in a hostile work environment, ie: something you could sue the company for.  What would be idea is if you could gin up some documentation that your boss is giving you extra work because you're Asian and good at math or something else like that.

[ChiComCat]

My HR conversations consist of "Do I have enough documentation to fire this person"

[chum1]

I'm really confused why you are going to HR to get out of doing essential functions and duties of your job.  Can you elaborate a bit?

Also agreed that HR is not your advocate.  They are there to keep the company from being sued.

My problem is caused by my bosses being either stubborn or lazy and not treating their reports equally.  (They haven't listened to my concerns for a year and aren't requiring of my cowrkers what they're requiring of me.) Whether or not you want to call it advocacy, it's HR's job to handle issues like that. 

I've only heard one HR story before and the outcome was good.   

Is that really HR's job at all?

Whether it's their job or not, all they are going to do is go to your manager and say "here's exactly what Chum said to us about you, verbatim."

Yes, that's part of their job.  When I looked on their webpage for the right number to call, it said "for such and such problems, dial ..." They do more than just tell your boss what you told them.  They're responsible for resolving problems.  You guys sound like a bunch of wusses.   

You are the one going to HR instead of talking to your bosses.  I bet your boss will think going to HR was "wuss," won't he/she?

I've been talking to my bosses about it for a year.  They've been blowing me off all along.  That's a big no-no. 

[Pete]

I'm really confused why you are going to HR to get out of doing essential functions and duties of your job.  Can you elaborate a bit?

Also agreed that HR is not your advocate.  They are there to keep the company from being sued.

My problem is caused by my bosses being either stubborn or lazy and not treating their reports equally.  (They haven't listened to my concerns for a year and aren't requiring of my cowrkers what they're requiring of me.) Whether or not you want to call it advocacy, it's HR's job to handle issues like that. 

I've only heard one HR story before and the outcome was good.   

Is that really HR's job at all?

Whether it's their job or not, all they are going to do is go to your manager and say "here's exactly what Chum said to us about you, verbatim."

Yes, that's part of their job.  When I looked on their webpage for the right number to call, it said "for such and such problems, dial ..." They do more than just tell your boss what you told them.  They're responsible for resolving problems.  You guys sound like a bunch of wusses.   

You are the one going to HR instead of talking to your bosses.  I bet your boss will think going to HR was "wuss," won't he/she?

I've been talking to my bosses about it for a year.  They've been blowing me off all along.  That's a big no-no.

I am not familiar with working in an environment like you describe.  You must really like your place of employment, apart from the particular bosses you describe.

Hope it works out man, but I'd start covering bases and looking around.

[chum1]

I'm really confused why you are going to HR to get out of doing essential functions and duties of your job.  Can you elaborate a bit?

Also agreed that HR is not your advocate.  They are there to keep the company from being sued.

My problem is caused by my bosses being either stubborn or lazy and not treating their reports equally.  (They haven't listened to my concerns for a year and aren't requiring of my cowrkers what they're requiring of me.) Whether or not you want to call it advocacy, it's HR's job to handle issues like that. 

I've only heard one HR story before and the outcome was good.   

Is that really HR's job at all?

Whether it's their job or not, all they are going to do is go to your manager and say "here's exactly what Chum said to us about you, verbatim."

Yes, that's part of their job.  When I looked on their webpage for the right number to call, it said "for such and such problems, dial ..." They do more than just tell your boss what you told them.  They're responsible for resolving problems.  You guys sound like a bunch of wusses.   

You are the one going to HR instead of talking to your bosses.  I bet your boss will think going to HR was "wuss," won't he/she?

I've been talking to my bosses about it for a year.  They've been blowing me off all along.  That's a big no-no.

I am not familiar with working in an environment like you describe.  You must really like your place of employment, apart from the particular bosses you describe.

Hope it works out man, but I'd start covering bases and looking around.

I work from home and rarely talk to anyone.  I love that.  I'm okay with my bosses, too.  No one's perfect.  They're perfectly welcome to fire me, though.  They have nothing on me, so it would be without cause.

[Pete]

I'm really confused why you are going to HR to get out of doing essential functions and duties of your job.  Can you elaborate a bit?

Also agreed that HR is not your advocate.  They are there to keep the company from being sued.

My problem is caused by my bosses being either stubborn or lazy and not treating their reports equally.  (They haven't listened to my concerns for a year and aren't requiring of my cowrkers what they're requiring of me.) Whether or not you want to call it advocacy, it's HR's job to handle issues like that. 

I've only heard one HR story before and the outcome was good.   

Is that really HR's job at all?

Whether it's their job or not, all they are going to do is go to your manager and say "here's exactly what Chum said to us about you, verbatim."

Yes, that's part of their job.  When I looked on their webpage for the right number to call, it said "for such and such problems, dial ..." They do more than just tell your boss what you told them.  They're responsible for resolving problems.  You guys sound like a bunch of wusses.   

You are the one going to HR instead of talking to your bosses.  I bet your boss will think going to HR was "wuss," won't he/she?

I've been talking to my bosses about it for a year.  They've been blowing me off all along.  That's a big no-no.

I am not familiar with working in an environment like you describe.  You must really like your place of employment, apart from the particular bosses you describe.

Hope it works out man, but I'd start covering bases and looking around.

I work from home and rarely talk to anyone.  I love that.  I'm okay with my bosses, too.  No one's perfect.  They're perfectly welcome to fire me, though.  They have nothing on me, so it would be without cause.

...unless this unreasonableness with your objections is a way for them to start to trump up "cause."

[Bloodfart]

Going over the bosses head never ends well for the subordinate.  I've watched many a scrub try it and end up with more of a work load than they had before they complained. 

[chum1]

I'm really confused why you are going to HR to get out of doing essential functions and duties of your job.  Can you elaborate a bit?

Also agreed that HR is not your advocate.  They are there to keep the company from being sued.

My problem is caused by my bosses being either stubborn or lazy and not treating their reports equally.  (They haven't listened to my concerns for a year and aren't requiring of my cowrkers what they're requiring of me.) Whether or not you want to call it advocacy, it's HR's job to handle issues like that. 

I've only heard one HR story before and the outcome was good.   

Is that really HR's job at all?

Whether it's their job or not, all they are going to do is go to your manager and say "here's exactly what Chum said to us about you, verbatim."

Yes, that's part of their job.  When I looked on their webpage for the right number to call, it said "for such and such problems, dial ..." They do more than just tell your boss what you told them.  They're responsible for resolving problems.  You guys sound like a bunch of wusses.   

You are the one going to HR instead of talking to your bosses.  I bet your boss will think going to HR was "wuss," won't he/she?

I've been talking to my bosses about it for a year.  They've been blowing me off all along.  That's a big no-no.

I am not familiar with working in an environment like you describe.  You must really like your place of employment, apart from the particular bosses you describe.

Hope it works out man, but I'd start covering bases and looking around.

I work from home and rarely talk to anyone.  I love that.  I'm okay with my bosses, too.  No one's perfect.  They're perfectly welcome to fire me, though.  They have nothing on me, so it would be without cause.

...unless this unreasonableness with your objections is a way for them to start to trump up "cause."

HR will be super sensitive to that for fear that it could appear to be retaliation.  And, of course, if my boss wants to fire me, he needs HR's approval.

[chum1]

Going over the bosses head never ends well for the subordinate.  I've watched many a scrub try it and end up with more of a work load than they had before they complained.

It's not over their head. It's HR.  I mean, I didn't pay much attention during orientation, either, but I did pick up SOME things.

[Bloodfart]

Going over the bosses head never ends well for the subordinate.  I've watched many a scrub try it and end up with more of a work load than they had before they complained.

It's not over their head. It's HR.  I mean, I didn't pay much attention during orientation, either, but I did pick up SOME things.

Did you inform your boss that you are going to talk to HR?

[chum1]

Going over the bosses head never ends well for the subordinate.  I've watched many a scrub try it and end up with more of a work load than they had before they complained.

It's not over their head. It's HR.  I mean, I didn't pay much attention during orientation, either, but I did pick up SOME things.

Did you inform your boss that you are going to talk to HR?

It's complicated.  The guy I report to (aka the guy who can fire me) isn't the guy in charge of the project.  And the guy I report to tried to help me, so he's in the clear.  So, no, I didn't.  It doesn't matter, though, because they really can't in any way appear to be discouraging you from going to HR.  That would be making a bad situation worse.  And if you've already determined that you need HR's help with talking to them, why would you talk to them without HR?  To threaten them?  Bad idea.  Telling them you're going to HR is pointless.

[420seriouscat69]

A lot of paranoid bosses in this thread.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

Would fire all of your asses if I were your boss and stumbled upon your posts.

[420seriouscat69]

Would fire all of your asses if I were your boss and stumbled upon your posts.

See previous post. Blow hard.

[Tobias]

didn't really expect this thread from chum 

[420seriouscat69]

didn't really expect this thread from chum 

Always been a fan, he just amplified in my book.

[chum1]

Had "interview" with HR today.  She sort of grilled me for a while, like she was testing the strength of my case.  Then, she was like, "Okay, I think there are some questions here that need to be answered.  So, with your permission, I'll talk to your manager." Then, she was telling me how she was plotting some story so it didn't sound like I was calling in to complain, that I just had questions about being written up or something.

When she first called yesterday to set up an appointment, she was all like, "Can you talk? Do you need to go to another location?" 

[steve dave]

sounds scary 

[chum1]

It's not pleasant, but if things have come this far, you feel like it's one of those things you've just gotta do.

[chum1]

But she was super nice - especially after the grilling.

[Emo EMAW]

HR chicks are super cool when you get them away from the HR lair and get them drunk.  They have the best stories.

[Gooch]

What if your manager made a in house rule to you not to date other employees and at the same time was effing another manager who's married to another manager and tries to force information out of you in secret meetings cause "you're the likeable guy in the office" & " I know ppl are talking to you"

What in the world?

[star seed 7]

working in HR seems like one of the worst jobs ever invented.

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

Working in any corporate setting is terrible

[star seed 7]

Working in any corporate setting is terrible

word.  ending up in the corporate world is one of my biggest fears