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Marcus Foster ? @ WatchYaHead12
I will take my talents to Manhattan,ks to play for coach oscar Webber at Kansas st
Also, suck it, dirt burglars!
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That's what you get LON!
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THAT'S WHAT YOU GET, LON!
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...YOU TOO, LARRY rough ridin' BROWN!
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I DON'T KNOW WHO COACHES CAL, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU GET TOO!
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I DON'T KNOW WHO COACHES CAL, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU GET TOO!
Mike Montgomery.
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is this good?
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The rumor is true... Marcus Foster has committed to K-State. He sent it to me via text this morning. Story to come later.
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Thanks Bart! :emawkid:
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I DON'T KNOW WHO COACHES CAL, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU GET TOO!
Mike Montgomery.
Oh he blows, isn't he the old Stanford Coach? Maybe I am mixing him up with another dog crap coach? Who knows?
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Thanks to LHC Bill Snyder, CK, AB4 and #LIFE for sealing the deal with Foster by beating the living crap out of Miami during his official visit!
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#life is so EMAW, getting us basketball recruits. What's next, getting Currie fired?
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I just quit team burnitdown.
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I DON'T KNOW WHO COACHES CAL, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU GET TOO!
Mike Montgomery.
Oh he blows, isn't he the old Stanford Coach? Maybe I am mixing him up with another dog crap coach? Who knows?
Yes, yes he is.
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I just quit team burnitdown.
we don't need you
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Thanks to LHC Bill Snyder, CK, AB4 and #LIFE for sealing the deal with Foster by beating the living crap out of Miami during his official visit!
I'll have the chainsaw woodcarver guy at the Kansas State Fair make me a little Mt. Rushmore with these four.
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Thanks to LHC Bill Snyder, CK, AB4 and #LIFE for sealing the deal with Foster by beating the living crap out of Miami during his official visit!
I'll have the chainsaw woodcarver guy at the Kansas State Fair make me a little Mt. Rushmore with these four.
I'd settle for photoshop from one of the super talented goEMAW photoshoppers!
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So I dont see a rivals star ranking....Is he any good?
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is this good?
Any good :dunno:
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#life is so EMAW, getting us basketball recruits. What's next, getting Currie fired?
He said he liked 33's video that showed currie in jail. :dunno:
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Bart is reporting that Foster's teammate has trimmed his list :fatty: :ohno:
Jeffrey Carroll Reply
Jeffrey Carroll, Marcus Foster's AAU teammate, has cut his list to four. They are TCU, SMU, Oklahoma State and K-State. He has a visit to TCU on the 21st and OSU on the 28th.
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:ksu: I think he'll end up being rated in the Top 150.
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#life is so EMAW, getting us basketball recruits. What's next, getting Currie fired?
He said he liked 33's video that showed currie in jail. :dunno:
Then it's only a matter of time.
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The only guy, in this pic, who looks like he might be worth a crap is the really tall dood :bball:
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:facepalm:
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:facepalm:
Do you even bother to read the recruiting threads? Crapload of positive reviews on Foster posted there throughout the last several months.
12th ranked player in State of TX, best player on AAU team with 5 other high major prospects. #122 ranked player in country from NBE hoops.
Other offers from Cal, Marquette, Oklahoma, TCU, SMU, Creighton and others.
Under the radar baller, glad we got him.
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I think mocat may be taking Bill seriously about his JO comment (which I assume was a joke) and not the Foster commit.
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I think mocat may be taking Bill seriously about his JO comment (which I assume was a joke) and not the Foster commit.
I hope that's the case.
I've met mocat, seemed like a fairly knowledgable guy.
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I like mocat. his enthusiasm for Martavious Irving is adorable.
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:facepalm:
Do you even bother to read the recruiting threads? Crapload of positive reviews on Foster posted there throughout the last several months.
12th ranked player in State of TX, best player on AAU team with 5 other high major prospects. #122 ranked player in country from NBE hoops.
Other offers from Cal, Marquette, Oklahoma, TCU, SMU, Creighton and others.
Under the radar baller, glad we got him.
i like how the "best player on aau team with 5 other high major prospects" is slipped in between two actual verifiable facts. :thumbs:
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Marcus Foster ? @ WatchYaHead12
I will take my talents to Manhattan,ks to play for coach oscar Webber at Kansas st
:facepalm: So much for chicken nuggets recruiting his players.
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:facepalm:
Do you even bother to read the recruiting threads? Crapload of positive reviews on Foster posted there throughout the last several months.
12th ranked player in State of TX, best player on AAU team with 5 other high major prospects. #122 ranked player in country from NBE hoops.
Other offers from Cal, Marquette, Oklahoma, TCU, SMU, Creighton and others.
Under the radar baller, glad we got him.
i like how the "best player on aau team with 5 other high major prospects" is slipped in between two actual verifiable facts. :thumbs:
Completely uninentional, I'm really not that clever at structuring arguments.
His AAU Coach, Gerald Booker, does seem to agree with that thought though:
"Marcus Foster has the ability to score against anyone in the country. He works hard to get open and is really good at keeping the defense off balance. When the game is on the line, Marcus is our go to guy. He is very explosive and hard to guard."
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1386282
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Foster vids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUeB_t3I6l0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FApjV31y9Ko
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3yh-JTDrpk
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:facepalm:
Do you even bother to read the recruiting threads? Crapload of positive reviews on Foster posted there throughout the last several months.
12th ranked player in State of TX, best player on AAU team with 5 other high major prospects. #122 ranked player in country from NBE hoops.
Other offers from Cal, Marquette, Oklahoma, TCU, SMU, Creighton and others.
Under the radar baller, glad we got him.
i like how the "best player on aau team with 5 other high major prospects" is slipped in between two actual verifiable facts. :thumbs:
Completely uninentional, I'm really not that clever at structuring arguments.
His AAU Coach, Gerald Booker, does seem to agree with that thought though:
"Marcus Foster has the ability to score against anyone in the country. He works hard to get open and is really good at keeping the defense off balance. When the game is on the line, Marcus is our go to guy. He is very explosive and hard to guard."
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1386282
yeah, i remember that quote and like you take it as a good sign. he didn't exactly say that "he's the best player on the team" though or anything. thanks a million for keeping us all updated with this stuff, i'd be clueless without.
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Pro tip: "Go to guy" does not refer to who the best short order cook on the team is.
It's the player that you have confidence will get you a bucket when it counts. In my book, that's your best player.
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Of course, in 2009 Alvarez also told BuffaloNews.com that Asprilla could go in the 2010 NBA draft.
“The kid is a lottery pick,” Alvarez said then. “I’ve been telling all the coaches that he can sign with you, but there’s an opportunity he could go straight to the pros from junior college. That’s how good he is.”
Canisius will be the fifth college for Asprilla and the fourth at which he has played basketball.
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foster is a complete stud baller, this is a great commitment
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I think mocat may be taking Bill seriously about his JO comment (which I assume was a joke) and not the Foster commit.
I hope that's the case.
I've met mocat, seemed like a fairly knowledgable guy.
steve dave is correct. I assumed it was a joke but then i read that bill clarahan is a racist piece of crap, which would precipitate him not recognizing JO, which led me to face palm.
I love the Foster signing, UW. :cheers:
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I just nicknamed Marcus Foster "Hustle & Flow."
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espn is going to make a 30 for 30 of his first game as a ksu baller.
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Of course, in 2009 Alvarez also told BuffaloNews.com that Asprilla could go in the 2010 NBA draft.
“The kid is a lottery pick,” Alvarez said then. “I’ve been telling all the coaches that he can sign with you, but there’s an opportunity he could go straight to the pros from junior college. That’s how good he is.”
Canisius will be the fifth college for Asprilla and the fourth at which he has played basketball.
Art liked to talk his guys up, that's what AAU coaches do.
In the process of talking all of his guys up, 6 of whom having high major offers, Booker singled out Foster as being their go to guy.
That's a pretty solid endorsement considering the other talent featured on the Mustangs.
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I think mocat may be taking Bill seriously about his JO comment (which I assume was a joke) and not the Foster commit.
I hope that's the case.
I've met mocat, seemed like a fairly knowledgable guy.
steve dave is correct. I assumed it was a joke but then i read that bill clarahan is a racist piece of crap, which would precipitate him not recognizing JO, which led me to face palm.
I love the Foster signing, UW. :cheers:
Thanks for clarifying mocat.
:cheers: x2
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I think mocat may be taking Bill seriously about his JO comment (which I assume was a joke) and not the Foster commit.
I was referring to the newbies looking so young, kinda cuddly.
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I just nicknamed Marcus Foster "Hustle & Flow."
That's catchy.
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Sorry doodz but after the Miami non-consensual anal sexing, its hard to get excited about some dude with zero stars. I'll check back with you guys in a few months.
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Sorry doodz but after the Miami non-consensual anal sexing, its hard to get excited about some dude with zero stars. I'll check back with you guys in a few months.
no problem, jtksu. us ksu hoops fans will be here because that's what fans do, stick by their teams.
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Sorry doodz but after the Miami non-consensual anal sexing, its hard to get excited about some dude with zero stars. I'll check back with you guys in a few months.
4* from ESPN.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/117811/marcus-foster
Supposedly Rivals is going to be granting him his rightful 3* sometime in the near future.
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Welcome Mr. Foster! :dance:
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I'm pretty impressed we got this guy. :ksu:
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It's nice to finally have a coach who can recruit
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Sorry doodz but after the Miami non-consensual anal sexing, its hard to get excited about some dude with zero stars. I'll check back with you guys in a few months.
4* from ESPN.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/117811/marcus-foster
Supposedly Rivals is going to be granting him his rightful 3* sometime in the near future.
How does an 80 equate to a 4*? ESPN must've switched up their scoring system.
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3* = 70-79
4* = 80-89
5* = 90-100
i think
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It's nice to finally have a coach who can recruit
JFC :facepalm:
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It's nice to finally have a coach who can recruit
JFC :facepalm:
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WildcatNation pretty much has the right idea. They really have given it an overhaul, I think a lot of that is Telep's influence. I don't know if it's better at this point, but they've attempted to quantify the difference between high 3*/low 3*/high 2* etc.
Basically how breaks down is:
90 and above = 5*
80-89 = 4*
70-79 = 3*
60-69 = 2*
Their Top 100 for '13 is linked below
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/order/true
As you can see, their cutoff for the Top 100 is an "81" rating so that probably puts Foster in the 110-120 range. He's right on their low 4*/high 3* barrier.
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It's nice to finally have a coach who can recruit
JFC :facepalm:
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Yeah, anyways, you're still a dumbass.
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when was the last time kstate signed or accepted a commit from four consecutive unranked (rivals 150) bball recruits? 2005 or 2006 maybe? hard to recall.
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when was the last time kstate signed or accepted a commit from four consecutive unranked (rivals 150) bball recruits? 2005 or 2006 maybe? hard to recall.
OMG SYS HATES WEBER! :runaway:
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when was the last time kstate signed or accepted a commit from four consecutive unranked (rivals 150) bball recruits? 2005 or 2006 maybe? hard to recall.
OMG SYS HATES WEBER! :runaway:
Weber and Currie hate us.
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Article on Foster from his hometown(Wichita Falls) paper.
http://m.timesrecordnews.com/news/2012/sep/11/decision-made/
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WildcatNation pretty much has the right idea. They really have given it an overhaul, I think a lot of that is Telep's influence. I don't know if it's better at this point, but they've attempted to quantify the difference between high 3*/low 3*/high 2* etc.
Basically how breaks down is:
90 and above = 5*
80-89 = 4*
70-79 = 3*
60-69 = 2*
Their Top 100 for '13 is linked below
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/order/true
As you can see, their cutoff for the Top 100 is an "81" rating so that probably puts Foster in the 110-120 range. He's right on their low 4*/high 3* barrier.
iowa state has two in the top 80. was fun while it lasted i guess.
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WildcatNation pretty much has the right idea. They really have given it an overhaul, I think a lot of that is Telep's influence. I don't know if it's better at this point, but they've attempted to quantify the difference between high 3*/low 3*/high 2* etc.
Basically how breaks down is:
90 and above = 5*
80-89 = 4*
70-79 = 3*
60-69 = 2*
Their Top 100 for '13 is linked below
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/order/true
As you can see, their cutoff for the Top 100 is an "81" rating so that probably puts Foster in the 110-120 range. He's right on their low 4*/high 3* barrier.
iowa state has two in the top 80. was fun while it lasted i guess.
Not sure what "it" is, but that's nothing to just lay down and die about. They got some good players in Matt Thomas and Monte Morris. We'll get some too, we just got 1 yesterday.
A local rival landing talent is no reason to stop competing or wanting to compete.
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I get people not liking Weber or Currie or whatever. I don't get trying to downplay landing a pretty solid recruit. Is this what it's going to be like after all our wins this year? because, woof. at some point you have to wonder if people want to be right about Weber more than they want to win basketball games.
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I get people not liking Weber or Currie or whatever. I don't get trying to downplay landing a pretty solid recruit. Is this what it's going to be like after all our wins this year? because, woof. at some point you have to wonder if people want to be right about Weber more than they want to win basketball games.
yeah
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like, I think Weber is going to suck ass in a couple years. However, I'm going to really hope he doesn't.
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like, I think Weber is going to suck ass in a couple years. However, I'm going to really hope he doesn't.
well said
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like, I think Weber is going to suck ass in a couple years. However, I'm going to really hope he doesn't.
well said
Yep. My stance this whole time as well.
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This should be the only stance
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I get people not liking Weber or Currie or whatever. I don't get trying to downplay landing a pretty solid recruit. Is this what it's going to be like after all our wins this year? because, woof. at some point you have to wonder if people want to be right about Weber more than they want to win basketball games.
yeah
i just reread the thread and it's kind of debatable whether or not there were any posts that were downplaying the fact that we just got this guy. some discussion about whether or not he was actually the best player on his aau team, but that's about it. at this point in time it's like the basketball board is a bad marriage and people are reading things into things that aren't there and then next thing you know we're yelling in the living room and telling the kids to go play outside.
i mean is it not ok to bring up the fact that iowa state has a top 80 and a top 40 in the link that was posted and appear to be passing us in recruiting and talent without having to have a discussion like this? because if so, woof?
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WildcatNation pretty much has the right idea. They really have given it an overhaul, I think a lot of that is Telep's influence. I don't know if it's better at this point, but they've attempted to quantify the difference between high 3*/low 3*/high 2* etc.
Basically how breaks down is:
90 and above = 5*
80-89 = 4*
70-79 = 3*
60-69 = 2*
Their Top 100 for '13 is linked below
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/order/true
As you can see, their cutoff for the Top 100 is an "81" rating so that probably puts Foster in the 110-120 range. He's right on their low 4*/high 3* barrier.
iowa state has two in the top 80. was fun while it lasted i guess.
Not sure what "it" is, but that's nothing to just lay down and die about. They got some good players in Matt Thomas and Monte Morris. We'll get some too, we just got 1 yesterday.
A local rival landing talent is no reason to stop competing or wanting to compete.
"it" was iowa state being a doormat and us being some guy with really muddy shoes.
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i just reread the thread and it's kind of debatable whether or not there were any posts that were downplaying the fact that we just got this guy.
no, it's not
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i just reread the thread and it's kind of debatable whether or not there were any posts that were downplaying the fact that we just got this guy.
no, it's not
yeah rick
Sorry doodz but after the Miami non-consensual anal sexing, its hard to get excited about some dude with zero stars. I'll check back with you guys in a few months.
when was the last time kstate signed or accepted a commit from four consecutive unranked (rivals 150) bball recruits? 2005 or 2006 maybe? hard to recall.
That's downplaying.
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i just reread the thread and it's kind of debatable whether or not there were any posts that were downplaying the fact that we just got this guy.
no, it's not
yeah rick
Sorry doodz but after the Miami non-consensual anal sexing, its hard to get excited about some dude with zero stars. I'll check back with you guys in a few months.
when was the last time kstate signed or accepted a commit from four consecutive unranked (rivals 150) bball recruits? 2005 or 2006 maybe? hard to recall.
That's downplaying.
well if you don't see how those aren't debatable in their downplaying of foster specifically and certainly not posts that warrant this topic being discussed (again) then i'm not sure what to tell you. time to send the kids to their grandparents for the weekend maybe? :dunno:
because at some point in time we have to be able to actually discuss things like iowa state's recruiting and kstates last two years of recruiting and it should be also ok for jt to say hey guys it's still football season, we just beat miami by eleventybillion and this guy isn't even currently rated so it's not a big deal to him right now without the gestapo rushing in and acting like he just insulted fosters mom or something.
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I get people not liking Weber or Currie or whatever. I don't get trying to downplay landing a pretty solid recruit. Is this what it's going to be like after all our wins this year? because, woof. at some point you have to wonder if people want to be right about Weber more than they want to win basketball games.
like, I think Weber is going to suck ass in a couple years. However, I'm going to really hope he doesn't.
Obviously, the fear/concern that's driving negative posting, not buying tickets, etc. is the middle ground between winning like we've been accustomed to the last 5 years and sucking ass, and residing in that middle ground for the foreseeable future following this upcoming season.
In a few years, when wins in the last few games may be the difference between an NIT and more chicken nuggets vs. the thing being burnt to it's final ashes, eff yeah, go whoever's playing the cats that night.
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I get people not liking Weber or Currie or whatever. I don't get trying to downplay landing a pretty solid recruit. Is this what it's going to be like after all our wins this year? because, woof. at some point you have to wonder if people want to be right about Weber more than they want to win basketball games.
like, I think Weber is going to suck ass in a couple years. However, I'm going to really hope he doesn't.
Obviously, the fear/concern that's driving negative posting, not buying tickets, etc. is the middle ground between winning like we've been accustomed to the last 5 years and sucking ass, and residing in that middle ground for the foreseeable future following this upcoming season.
In a few years, when wins in the last few games may be the difference between an NIT and more chicken nuggets vs. the thing being burnt to it's final ashes, eff yeah, go whoever's playing the cats that night.
sure, and we did the same thing with Bill coming back. I'm glad you and I were wrong about that. I'm going to hope we're wrong about oscar and party if we are. I'm not going to be sad and wish I was right and fight every victory in hopes that I eventually am.
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I get people not liking Wooly or Weiser or whatever. I don't get trying to downplay landing a pretty solid recruit (Clent Stewart). Is this what it's going to be like after all our wins this year? because, woof. at some point you have to wonder if people want to be right about Wooly more than they want to win basketball games.
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sure, and we did the same thing with Bill coming back. I'm glad you and I were wrong about that. I'm going to hope we're wrong about oscar and party if we are. I'm not going to be sad and wish I was right and fight every victory in hopes that I eventually am.
Oh, your definition of "sucking ass" is that middle ground I'm talking about. Gotcha.
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IT'S NOT BUTTHURT, IT'S CRITICISM. OBVIOUSLY.
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sure, and we did the same thing with Bill coming back. I'm glad you and I were wrong about that. I'm going to hope we're wrong about oscar and party if we are. I'm not going to be sad and wish I was right and fight every victory in hopes that I eventually am.
Oh, your definition of "sucking ass" is that middle ground I'm talking about. Gotcha.
yes
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It would be so much easier if I didn't hate oscar Weber and everything he stands for. I'm going to cheer my guts out for the cats this season. It's just going to be a little different.
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sure, and we did the same thing with Bill coming back. I'm glad you and I were wrong about that. I'm going to hope we're wrong about oscar and party if we are. I'm not going to be sad and wish I was right and fight every victory in hopes that I eventually am.
Oh, your definition of "sucking ass" is that middle ground I'm talking about. Gotcha.
yes
What's the level below ass-sucking?
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sure, and we did the same thing with Bill coming back. I'm glad you and I were wrong about that. I'm going to hope we're wrong about oscar and party if we are. I'm not going to be sad and wish I was right and fight every victory in hopes that I eventually am.
Oh, your definition of "sucking ass" is that middle ground I'm talking about. Gotcha.
yes
What's the level below ass-sucking?
it's all ass sucking from there down
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i just reread the thread and it's kind of debatable whether or not there were any posts that were downplaying the fact that we just got this guy.
no, it's not
yeah rick
Sorry doodz but after the Miami non-consensual anal sexing, its hard to get excited about some dude with zero stars. I'll check back with you guys in a few months.
when was the last time kstate signed or accepted a commit from four consecutive unranked (rivals 150) bball recruits? 2005 or 2006 maybe? hard to recall.
That's downplaying.
well if you don't see how those aren't debatable in their downplaying of foster and certainly not posts that warrant this topic being discussed (again) then i'm not sure what to tell you. time to send the kids to their grandparents for the weekend maybe? :dunno:
because at some point in time we have to be able to actually discuss things like iowa state's recruiting and kstates last two years of recruiting and it should be also ok for jt to say hey guys it's still football season, we just beat miami by eleventybillion and this guy isn't even currently rated so it's not a big deal to him right now without the gestapo rushing in and acting like he just insulted fosters mom or something. getting bent out of shape over that comment is basically the equivalent to starting an argument because someone left the toilet lid up again when you're really mad because they cheated on you six months ago and you suspect they're doing it again and they've run up huge credit card debt and should be looking for a job because they got laid off a month ago but instead choose to just sit around and drink all day.
It's perfectly ok for anyone to say whatever they want. That's what this board is for. It's also perfectly ok for anyone to get annoyed at what is, at best, an effort to spin a decent thing happening into just more of what is already an unbearable pile of suck for a lot of us. I don't mind dissent, and I'd never encourage suppressing it, but going through another round of arguments and soul-searching because team #burnitdown won't be satisfied until we're consistently landing 4-5 star recruits and winning 25+ games a year under oscar (which I think we all agree will likely never happen) does get old over time, and I don't understand why this bothers you. If jt doesn't think this is a big deal, that's cool. If sys wants to actively root for the program to fail, fine. That's their right and it's their right to tell us so. Just don't get all indignant if people push back somewhat against that line of thought when something good happens, because their reaction is just as predictable as #burnitdown's naysaying and it's not worth about getting butthurt about the butthurt about the original butthurt.
and fwiw i'm more on team #burnitdown than you realize, so quit with the gestapo bullshit.
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sure, and we did the same thing with Bill coming back. I'm glad you and I were wrong about that. I'm going to hope we're wrong about oscar and party if we are. I'm not going to be sad and wish I was right and fight every victory in hopes that I eventually am.
Oh, your definition of "sucking ass" is that middle ground I'm talking about. Gotcha.
yes
What's the level below ass-sucking?
it's all ass sucking from there down
Can't be. Mediocre ass-sucking perpetuates more mediocre ass-sucking. 2-win ass-sucking gets us a tHuggins.
But I guess we can better define levels of ass-suck in a couple years as needed.
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I get people not liking Wooly or Weiser or whatever. I don't get trying to downplay landing a pretty solid recruit (Clent Stewart). Is this what it's going to be like after all our wins this year? because, woof. at some point you have to wonder if people want to be right about Wooly more than they want to win basketball games.
Ha!
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I love you FAN, you know that, right?
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i just reread the thread and it's kind of debatable whether or not there were any posts that were downplaying the fact that we just got this guy.
no, it's not
yeah rick
Sorry doodz but after the Miami non-consensual anal sexing, its hard to get excited about some dude with zero stars. I'll check back with you guys in a few months.
when was the last time kstate signed or accepted a commit from four consecutive unranked (rivals 150) bball recruits? 2005 or 2006 maybe? hard to recall.
That's downplaying.
well if you don't see how those aren't debatable in their downplaying of foster and certainly not posts that warrant this topic being discussed (again) then i'm not sure what to tell you. time to send the kids to their grandparents for the weekend maybe? :dunno:
because at some point in time we have to be able to actually discuss things like iowa state's recruiting and kstates last two years of recruiting and it should be also ok for jt to say hey guys it's still football season, we just beat miami by eleventybillion and this guy isn't even currently rated so it's not a big deal to him right now without the gestapo rushing in and acting like he just insulted fosters mom or something. getting bent out of shape over that comment is basically the equivalent to starting an argument because someone left the toilet lid up again when you're really mad because they cheated on you six months ago and you suspect they're doing it again and they've run up huge credit card debt and should be looking for a job because they got laid off a month ago but instead choose to just sit around and drink all day.
It's perfectly ok for anyone to say whatever they want. That's what this board is for. It's also perfectly ok for anyone to get annoyed at what is, at best, an effort to spin a decent thing happening into just more of what is already an unbearable pile of suck for a lot of us. I don't mind dissent, and I'd never encourage suppressing it, but going through another round of arguments and soul-searching because team #burnitdown won't be satisfied until we're consistently landing 4-5 star recruits and winning 25+ games a year under oscar (which I think we all agree will likely never happen) does get old over time, and I don't understand why this bothers you. If jt doesn't think this is a big deal, that's cool. If sys wants to actively root for the program to fail, fine. That's their right and it's their right to tell us so. Just don't get all indignant if people push back somewhat against that line of thought when something good happens, because their reaction is just as predictable as #burnitdown's naysaying and it's not worth about getting butthurt about the butthurt about the original butthurt.
and fwiw i'm more on team #burnitdown than you realize, so quit with the gestapo bullshit.
good post 42 :thumbs:
IT'S NOT BUTTHURT, IT'S CRITICISM. OBVIOUSLY.
it's comical how easy this is for some people to see and for others to completely miss it
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i just reread the thread and it's kind of debatable whether or not there were any posts that were downplaying the fact that we just got this guy.
no, it's not
yeah rick
Sorry doodz but after the Miami non-consensual anal sexing, its hard to get excited about some dude with zero stars. I'll check back with you guys in a few months.
when was the last time kstate signed or accepted a commit from four consecutive unranked (rivals 150) bball recruits? 2005 or 2006 maybe? hard to recall.
That's downplaying.
well if you don't see how those aren't debatable in their downplaying of foster and certainly not posts that warrant this topic being discussed (again) then i'm not sure what to tell you. time to send the kids to their grandparents for the weekend maybe? :dunno:
because at some point in time we have to be able to actually discuss things like iowa state's recruiting and kstates last two years of recruiting and it should be also ok for jt to say hey guys it's still football season, we just beat miami by eleventybillion and this guy isn't even currently rated so it's not a big deal to him right now without the gestapo rushing in and acting like he just insulted fosters mom or something. getting bent out of shape over that comment is basically the equivalent to starting an argument because someone left the toilet lid up again when you're really mad because they cheated on you six months ago and you suspect they're doing it again and they've run up huge credit card debt and should be looking for a job because they got laid off a month ago but instead choose to just sit around and drink all day.
It's perfectly ok for anyone to say whatever they want. That's what this board is for. It's also perfectly ok for anyone to get annoyed at what is, at best, an effort to spin a decent thing happening into just more of what is already an unbearable pile of suck for a lot of us. I don't mind dissent, and I'd never encourage suppressing it, but going through another round of arguments and soul-searching because team #burnitdown won't be satisfied until we're consistently landing 4-5 star recruits and winning 25+ games a year under oscar (which I think we all agree will likely never happen) does get old over time, and I don't understand why this bothers you. If jt doesn't think this is a big deal, that's cool. If sys wants to actively root for the program to fail, fine. That's their right and it's their right to tell us so. Just don't get all indignant if people push back somewhat against that line of thought when something good happens, because their reaction is just as predictable as #burnitdown's naysaying and it's not worth about getting butthurt about the butthurt about the original butthurt.
and fwiw i'm more on team #burnitdown than you realize, so quit with the gestapo bullshit.
i guess i'm just annoyed that yet another thread (that had up until this point been entirely about marcus and college basketball recruiting) got turned into weber/currie/burnitdown/etc. discussion.
but hey, that's just me. maybe you guys aren't done discussing all that quite yet.
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i mean i'm done. go cats.
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I just want us all to get along and be happy like we used to be.
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I love these threads (serious) and would be 100% fine with them continuing all the way through fball & bball season
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I love these threads (serious) and would be 100% fine with them continuing all the way through fball & bball season
Yeah, but what if everyone started saying Martavious sucked? Then what?
(Martavious does not suck, this is purely hypothetical and not grounded in science.)
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sure, and we did the same thing with Bill coming back. I'm glad you and I were wrong about that. I'm going to hope we're wrong about oscar and party if we are. I'm not going to be sad and wish I was right and fight every victory in hopes that I eventually am.
If that were the same situation as this is, then people would definitely still be saying, "But he's doing it with Prince recruits. Anyone can win with those players." But it's not the same situation, and we were terrible. If we were terrible in basketball for the past 3 years and we hired Weber, the backlash would not be near as bad. The difference is that Snyder was our best option at the time, and Weber was not our best option. Not even close.
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Also, I will be cheering for KSU hoops, but it's just hard to get excited about any recruits when he was bringing in guys more highly rated than this to Illinois and couldn't do anything with them. Maybe he'll get a bunch of 4*s and we'll fire him and have someone who can coach win with them.
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Maybe he'll get a bunch of 4*s and we'll fire him and have someone who can coach win with them.
That's a positive approach I can run with.
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Maybe he'll get a bunch of 4*s and we'll fire him and have someone who can coach win with them.
That's a positive approach I can run with.
oscar W recruiting for oscar P?
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So I'm glad we got Marcus Foster, based off everything I've read and seen about him, I think his game is pretty similar to Marcus Denmon's, I hope Foster can produce at the same level for KSU that Denmon was able to for Missouri.
I think this commit gives us so momentum to finish off the rest of this class, which will not be a Top 25 national class, but could feature some very solid pieces for a very competitive team down the road.
If you're worried about Iowa St. passing us, that should have happened when they were able to bring in Royce White, Chris Allen, Anthony Booker, and Korie Lucious. Some may have considered bringing in all those transfers a risk, but guess what, all those guys can play and they proved it last year(Lucious will get his shot this year), grats to Hoiberg for not getting in their way. They've also done a good job bringing in 4* Georges Niang and 3* Sherron Dorsey-Walker in last year's class.
Even before Frank left, they were going to finish ahead of us in the rankings for the Class of '12. They're probably going to finish ahead of us for '13, it's not the end of the world.
Their latest commit, 6'8" PF Richard Armadi, is an NR JC kid who'll have 1 yr of eligibility in 13-14. It sounds like he might be under the radar but I don't think he's going to strike fear in the hearts of other frontlines in the Big 12.
Iowa St was good last year(they beat us twice, finished ahead of us in league), they're probably going to be good into the near future at least. Hoiberg has done a very good rebuilding their program but it's not like it's just coming out of nowhere. It's also not like they're some insurmountable juggernaut that we won't have any ability to compete with. In several instances, we're competing for the same talent(Vitto Brown and Hassan Martin). Embrace the challenge of competing with them.
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I love these threads (serious) and would be 100% fine with them continuing all the way through fball & bball season
Yeah, but what if everyone started saying Martavious sucked? Then what?
(Martavious does not suck, this is purely hypothetical and not grounded in science.)
That would be an enjoyable thread as well because of the amount of complete dumbasses that would instantly be outed.
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Also, I will be cheering for KSU hoops, but it's just hard to get excited about any recruits when he was bringing in guys more highly rated than this to Illinois and couldn't do anything with them. Maybe he'll get a bunch of 4*s and we'll fire him and have someone who can coach win with them.
Maybe he just needs worse players for better results. Maybe that's what it is.
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So I'm glad we got Marcus Foster, based off everything I've read and seen about him, I think his game is pretty similar to Marcus Denmon's, I hope Foster can produce at the same level for KSU that Denmon was able to for Missouri.
I think this commit gives us so momentum to finish off the rest of this class, which will not be a Top 25 national class, but could feature some very solid pieces for a very competitive team down the road.
If you're worried about Iowa St. passing us, that should have happened when they were able to bring in Royce White, Chris Allen, Anthony Booker, and Korie Lucious. Some may have considered bringing in all those transfers a risk, but guess what, all those guys can play and they proved it last year(Lucious will get his shot this year), grats to Hoiberg for not getting in their way. They've also done a good job bringing in 4* Georges Niang and 3* Sherron Dorsey-Walker in last year's class.
Even before Frank left, they were going to finish ahead of us in the rankings for the Class of '12. They're probably going to finish ahead of us for '13, it's not the end of the world.
Their latest commit, 6'8" PF Richard Armadi, is an NR JC kid who'll have 1 yr of eligibility in 13-14. It sounds like he might be under the radar but I don't think he's going to strike fear in the hearts of other frontlines in the Big 12.
Iowa St was good last year(they beat us twice, finished ahead of us in league), they're probably going to be good into the near future at least. Hoiberg has done a very good rebuilding their program but it's not like it's just coming out of nowhere. It's also not like they're some insurmountable juggernaut that we won't have any ability to compete with. In several instances, we're competing for the same talent(Vitto Brown and Hassan Martin). Embrace the challenge of competing with them.
that would be great if marcus (ours) can be as good as marcus (theirs). sorry for picking the wrong point in time to be bothered by the fact that iowa state appears to be recruiting much better than we are and adding more talent to their program than we are.
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So I'm glad we got Marcus Foster, based off everything I've read and seen about him, I think his game is pretty similar to Marcus Denmon's, I hope Foster can produce at the same level for KSU that Denmon was able to for Missouri.
I think this commit gives us so momentum to finish off the rest of this class, which will not be a Top 25 national class, but could feature some very solid pieces for a very competitive team down the road.
If you're worried about Iowa St. passing us, that should have happened when they were able to bring in Royce White, Chris Allen, Anthony Booker, and Korie Lucious. Some may have considered bringing in all those transfers a risk, but guess what, all those guys can play and they proved it last year(Lucious will get his shot this year), grats to Hoiberg for not getting in their way. They've also done a good job bringing in 4* Georges Niang and 3* Sherron Dorsey-Walker in last year's class.
Even before Frank left, they were going to finish ahead of us in the rankings for the Class of '12. They're probably going to finish ahead of us for '13, it's not the end of the world.
Their latest commit, 6'8" PF Richard Armadi, is an NR JC kid who'll have 1 yr of eligibility in 13-14. It sounds like he might be under the radar but I don't think he's going to strike fear in the hearts of other frontlines in the Big 12.
Iowa St was good last year(they beat us twice, finished ahead of us in league), they're probably going to be good into the near future at least. Hoiberg has done a very good rebuilding their program but it's not like it's just coming out of nowhere. It's also not like they're some insurmountable juggernaut that we won't have any ability to compete with. In several instances, we're competing for the same talent(Vitto Brown and Hassan Martin). Embrace the challenge of competing with them.
that would be great if marcus (ours) can be as good as marcus (theirs). sorry for picking the wrong point in time to be bothered by the fact that iowa state appears to be recruiting much better than we are and adding more talent to their program than we are.
Hoiberg is to focused on recruiting shooters, players like him, they had the baddest matchup problem in the country last year, White, and were only a good team not a great team. A lack of getting to the rack, being physical will do them in. Also, haven't seen good point guard play from a Hoiberg team, runs way to many NBA sets.
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I'm pretty excited about Marcus Foster.
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i guess i'm just annoyed that yet another thread (that had up until this point been entirely about marcus and college basketball recruiting) got turned into weber/currie/burnitdown/etc. discussion.
but hey, that's just me. maybe you guys aren't done discussing all that quite yet.
Agreed. I think the thread kind of turned on this gem...
"iowa state has two in the top 80. was fun while it lasted i guess."
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So I'm glad we got Marcus Foster, based off everything I've read and seen about him, I think his game is pretty similar to Marcus Denmon's, I hope Foster can produce at the same level for KSU that Denmon was able to for Missouri.
I think this commit gives us so momentum to finish off the rest of this class, which will not be a Top 25 national class, but could feature some very solid pieces for a very competitive team down the road.
If you're worried about Iowa St. passing us, that should have happened when they were able to bring in Royce White, Chris Allen, Anthony Booker, and Korie Lucious. Some may have considered bringing in all those transfers a risk, but guess what, all those guys can play and they proved it last year(Lucious will get his shot this year), grats to Hoiberg for not getting in their way. They've also done a good job bringing in 4* Georges Niang and 3* Sherron Dorsey-Walker in last year's class.
Even before Frank left, they were going to finish ahead of us in the rankings for the Class of '12. They're probably going to finish ahead of us for '13, it's not the end of the world.
Their latest commit, 6'8" PF Richard Armadi, is an NR JC kid who'll have 1 yr of eligibility in 13-14. It sounds like he might be under the radar but I don't think he's going to strike fear in the hearts of other frontlines in the Big 12.
Iowa St was good last year(they beat us twice, finished ahead of us in league), they're probably going to be good into the near future at least. Hoiberg has done a very good rebuilding their program but it's not like it's just coming out of nowhere. It's also not like they're some insurmountable juggernaut that we won't have any ability to compete with. In several instances, we're competing for the same talent(Vitto Brown and Hassan Martin). Embrace the challenge of competing with them.
sorry for picking the wrong point in time to be bothered by the fact that iowa state appears to be recruiting much better than we are and adding more talent to their program than we are.
You mean just like they have the past couple years?
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You mean just like they have the past couple years?
Yeah, aside from Beasley, Walker, and Judge, Foster is every bit as good, if not better, than any commit in the Huggs/Frank era. Frank had some nice transfers (Denis). But, in terms of highschool prospects, I believe Gip was probably one of the highest rated players Frank ever brought in.
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So I'm glad we got Marcus Foster, based off everything I've read and seen about him, I think his game is pretty similar to Marcus Denmon's, I hope Foster can produce at the same level for KSU that Denmon was able to for Missouri.
I think this commit gives us so momentum to finish off the rest of this class, which will not be a Top 25 national class, but could feature some very solid pieces for a very competitive team down the road.
If you're worried about Iowa St. passing us, that should have happened when they were able to bring in Royce White, Chris Allen, Anthony Booker, and Korie Lucious. Some may have considered bringing in all those transfers a risk, but guess what, all those guys can play and they proved it last year(Lucious will get his shot this year), grats to Hoiberg for not getting in their way. They've also done a good job bringing in 4* Georges Niang and 3* Sherron Dorsey-Walker in last year's class.
Even before Frank left, they were going to finish ahead of us in the rankings for the Class of '12. They're probably going to finish ahead of us for '13, it's not the end of the world.
Their latest commit, 6'8" PF Richard Armadi, is an NR JC kid who'll have 1 yr of eligibility in 13-14. It sounds like he might be under the radar but I don't think he's going to strike fear in the hearts of other frontlines in the Big 12.
Iowa St was good last year(they beat us twice, finished ahead of us in league), they're probably going to be good into the near future at least. Hoiberg has done a very good rebuilding their program but it's not like it's just coming out of nowhere. It's also not like they're some insurmountable juggernaut that we won't have any ability to compete with. In several instances, we're competing for the same talent(Vitto Brown and Hassan Martin). Embrace the challenge of competing with them.
sorry for picking the wrong point in time to be bothered by the fact that iowa state appears to be recruiting much better than we are and adding more talent to their program than we are.
You mean just like they have the past couple years?
yes. iowa state did not really concern me that much at first because most of the incoming talent appeared to be transfers, which i did not feel was sustainable and as such did not worry much about it. the current and very recent highschool recruiting however does concern me because it seems like a pattern is developing.
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So I'm glad we got Marcus Foster, based off everything I've read and seen about him, I think his game is pretty similar to Marcus Denmon's, I hope Foster can produce at the same level for KSU that Denmon was able to for Missouri.
I think this commit gives us so momentum to finish off the rest of this class, which will not be a Top 25 national class, but could feature some very solid pieces for a very competitive team down the road.
If you're worried about Iowa St. passing us, that should have happened when they were able to bring in Royce White, Chris Allen, Anthony Booker, and Korie Lucious. Some may have considered bringing in all those transfers a risk, but guess what, all those guys can play and they proved it last year(Lucious will get his shot this year), grats to Hoiberg for not getting in their way. They've also done a good job bringing in 4* Georges Niang and 3* Sherron Dorsey-Walker in last year's class.
Even before Frank left, they were going to finish ahead of us in the rankings for the Class of '12. They're probably going to finish ahead of us for '13, it's not the end of the world.
Their latest commit, 6'8" PF Richard Armadi, is an NR JC kid who'll have 1 yr of eligibility in 13-14. It sounds like he might be under the radar but I don't think he's going to strike fear in the hearts of other frontlines in the Big 12.
Iowa St was good last year(they beat us twice, finished ahead of us in league), they're probably going to be good into the near future at least. Hoiberg has done a very good rebuilding their program but it's not like it's just coming out of nowhere. It's also not like they're some insurmountable juggernaut that we won't have any ability to compete with. In several instances, we're competing for the same talent(Vitto Brown and Hassan Martin). Embrace the challenge of competing with them.
sorry for picking the wrong point in time to be bothered by the fact that iowa state appears to be recruiting much better than we are and adding more talent to their program than we are.
You mean just like they have the past couple years?
yes. iowa state did not really concern me that much at first because most of the incoming talent appeared to be transfers, which i did not feel was sustainable and as such did not worry much about it. the current and very recent highschool recruiting however does concern me because it seems like a pattern is developing.
Right, but that doesn't mean "it's over" for KSU by any means.
Landing Foster is a big step in the right direction.
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You mean just like they have the past couple years?
Yeah, aside from Beasley, Walker, and Judge, Foster is every bit as good, if not better, than any commit in the Huggs/Frank era. Frank had some nice transfers (Denis). But, in terms of highschool prospects, I believe Gip was probably one of the highest rated players Frank ever brought in.
Gip and Diaz were ranked in the 140s according to Rivals.
McGruder was a pretty damn solid 4* recruit. Watching the DCA play in Manhattan a couple years back, it wouldn't have been out of the question to think McGruder was the better prospect than Judge, at least the safer bet to succeed. McGruder won FL POY in their HS classification during their SR yr.
At the same stage of their careers, McGruder > Foster. But I'm still on high on Foster and think he can develop into a very solid if not all-conference type player by the time he's done at KSU.
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I feel good that it was AB3 landing this kid. He was kind of the unknown in the staff.
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You mean just like they have the past couple years?
Yeah, aside from Beasley, Walker, and Judge, Foster is every bit as good, if not better, than any commit in the Huggs/Frank era. Frank had some nice transfers (Denis). But, in terms of highschool prospects, I believe Gip was probably one of the highest rated players Frank ever brought in.
Gip and Diaz were ranked in the 140s according to Rivals.
Don't forget about Shane and Nino and Nick Russell (all top 150). I'm sure Foster is better than all of them by quite a bit, but still.
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You mean just like they have the past couple years?
Yeah, aside from Beasley, Walker, and Judge, Foster is every bit as good, if not better, than any commit in the Huggs/Frank era. Frank had some nice transfers (Denis). But, in terms of highschool prospects, I believe Gip was probably one of the highest rated players Frank ever brought in.
Gip and Diaz were ranked in the 140s according to Rivals.
Don't forget about Shane and Nino and Nick Russell (all top 150). I'm sure Foster is better than all of them by quite a bit, but still.
Hey, thanks for the reminder mc, I'm glad you still care. :thumbs:
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You mean just like they have the past couple years?
Yeah, aside from Beasley, Walker, and Judge, Foster is every bit as good, if not better, than any commit in the Huggs/Frank era. Frank had some nice transfers (Denis). But, in terms of highschool prospects, I believe Gip was probably one of the highest rated players Frank ever brought in.
Gip and Diaz were ranked in the 140s according to Rivals.
McGruder was a pretty damn solid 4* recruit. Watching the DCA play in Manhattan a couple years back, it wouldn't have been out of the question to think McGruder was the better prospect than Judge, at least the safer bet to succeed. McGruder won FL POY in their HS classification during their SR yr.
At the same stage of their careers, McGruder > Foster. But I'm still on high on Foster and think he can develop into a very solid if not all-conference type player by the time he's done at KSU.
Foster is vastly underrated if he can make a quick and easy transition to a true combo guard, if not he might be correctly rated around the top 150 mark. Also, foster might not be done growing which is as huge bonus.
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Speaking of size, does anybody know for sure how big Foster really is? Some places list 6'0" 155lbs, and others 6'2-6'3 185lbs.
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You mean just like they have the past couple years?
Yeah, aside from Beasley, Walker, and Judge, Foster is every bit as good, if not better, than any commit in the Huggs/Frank era. Frank had some nice transfers (Denis). But, in terms of highschool prospects, I believe Gip was probably one of the highest rated players Frank ever brought in.
Gip and Diaz were ranked in the 140s according to Rivals.
Don't forget about Shane and Nino and Nick Russell (all top 150). I'm sure Foster is better than all of them by quite a bit, but still.
not to mention sutton & mcgruder. Also, transfers count. ( Kelly)
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Speaking of size, does anybody know for sure how big Foster really is? Some places list 6'0" 155lbs, and others 6'2-6'3 185lbs.
6'3 wouldn't be surprised if he makes it to 6'4.
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Speaking of size, does anybody know for sure how big Foster really is? Some places list 6'0" 155lbs, and others 6'2-6'3 185lbs.
That ESPN profile (6'0" 155) is from when they 1st evaluated him back in 2010, they need to update it. Everything recent on Foster has him in the 6'2"-6'3" 185-200 range.
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You mean just like they have the past couple years?
Yeah, aside from Beasley, Walker, and Judge, Foster is every bit as good, if not better, than any commit in the Huggs/Frank era. Frank had some nice transfers (Denis). But, in terms of highschool prospects, I believe Gip was probably one of the highest rated players Frank ever brought in.
Gip and Diaz were ranked in the 140s according to Rivals.
Don't forget about Shane and Nino and Nick Russell (all top 150). I'm sure Foster is better than all of them by quite a bit, but still.
not to mention sutton & mcgruder. Also, transfers count. ( Kelly)
so other than clemente, kelly, sutton, mcgruder, nino, diaz, russell, shane, beasley, and walker....Foster will most likely have a higher ranking than every Frank recruit ever signed. Why aren't more people poppin bottles?
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RUIII signed right?
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You mean just like they have the past couple years?
Yeah, aside from Beasley, Walker, and Judge, Foster is every bit as good, if not better, than any commit in the Huggs/Frank era. Frank had some nice transfers (Denis). But, in terms of highschool prospects, I believe Gip was probably one of the highest rated players Frank ever brought in.
Gip and Diaz were ranked in the 140s according to Rivals.
Don't forget about Shane and Nino and Nick Russell (all top 150). I'm sure Foster is better than all of them by quite a bit, but still.
not to mention sutton & mcgruder. Also, transfers count. ( Kelly)
so other than clemente, kelly, sutton, mcgruder, nino, diaz, russell, shane, beasley, and walker....Foster will most likely have a higher ranking than every Frank recruit ever signed. Why aren't more people poppin bottles?
yeah. I like the Foster commit no doubt, but the revisionist history about the recruits Frank brought in is pointless. Also, while the '14 mentions look promising, Webers '12 & '13 recruiting have been abysmal. Foster as the far and away best looking recruit in 2 classes doesn't speak well. And there looks to be a huge gaping hole in talent that will rear itself in a couple of years if recruiting doesn't improve in a big rough ridin' hurry. In short, things are going pretty much how everyone expected.
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ESPN RATINGS
2007
Michael Beasley (1st PF) 98
Jake Pullen (16th PG) 93
Dom Sutton POST
Fred Brown (85th SG) 76
Ron Anderson (179th PF) 71
Andre Gilbert JC
2008
Jordan Henriquez (16th C) 91
Abdul Herrera JC
Buchi Awaji JC
2009
Wally Judge (4th PF) 97
Devon Peterson JC
Jordan Henriquez POST
Rodney McGruder (33rd SG) 89
Nike Russell (38th SG) 89
Martavious Irving (72nd SG) 86
2010
Freddy Asprilla JC
Shane Southwell (21st SF) 92
Nino Williams (35th SF)90
Will Spradling (55th PG)88
Jeuvol Myles JC
2011
Adrian Diaz (20th C) 90
Thomas Gipson (31st PF) 90
Angel Rodriquez (35th PG) 90
Jeremy Jones JC
Omari Lawrence JC
James Watson JC
2012
Micheal Orris (22nd PG) 89
Darrel Johnson (86th PF) 85
2013
Marcus Foster (27th PG) 80
Alex Etherington (112th SF) 64
FRANK
PG = 16, 55, 35
SG = 85, 33, 38, 72
SF = 21, 35
PF = 1, 179, 4, 31
C = 16, 20
oscar
PG = 22, 27
SG =
SF = 112
PF = 86
C =
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You mean just like they have the past couple years?
Yeah, aside from Beasley, Walker, and Judge, Foster is every bit as good, if not better, than any commit in the Huggs/Frank era. Frank had some nice transfers (Denis). But, in terms of highschool prospects, I believe Gip was probably one of the highest rated players Frank ever brought in.
Gip and Diaz were ranked in the 140s according to Rivals.
Don't forget about Shane and Nino and Nick Russell (all top 150). I'm sure Foster is better than all of them by quite a bit, but still.
not to mention sutton & mcgruder. Also, transfers count. ( Kelly)
so other than clemente, kelly, sutton, mcgruder, nino, diaz, russell, shane, beasley, and walker....Foster will most likely have a higher ranking than every Frank recruit ever signed. Why aren't more people poppin bottles?
yeah. I like the Foster commit no doubt, but the revisionist history about the recruits Frank brought in is pointless. Also, while the '14 mentions look promising, Webers '12 & '13 recruiting have been abysmal. Foster as the far and away best looking recruit in 2 classes doesn't speak well. And there looks to be a huge gaping hole in talent that will rear itself in a couple of years if recruiting doesn't improve in a big rough ridin' hurry. In short, things are going pretty much how everyone expected.
What revisionist history?
The only reference to Frank's recruiting in this thread is that Iowa St. has brought in better talent in the past couple years, meaning classes of 2011-2013.
And no, it hasn't demonstrably been better and no it doesn't mean they have completely surpassed us, but it is what it is.
If KSU is going to be competitive in the upper half of the league in coming years, we're going to have land some higher caliber prospects in future classes. No one is denying that.
Landing Foster, a potential difference maker, at least gives Weber's recruiting some optimism. I'm not going to piss on that.
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people are actually defending frank's recruiting in an effort to disparage oscar's
awesome
:lol:
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You mean just like they have the past couple years?
Yeah, aside from Beasley, Walker, and Judge, Foster is every bit as good, if not better, than any commit in the Huggs/Frank era. Frank had some nice transfers (Denis). But, in terms of highschool prospects, I believe Gip was probably one of the highest rated players Frank ever brought in.
Gip and Diaz were ranked in the 140s according to Rivals.
Don't forget about Shane and Nino and Nick Russell (all top 150). I'm sure Foster is better than all of them by quite a bit, but still.
not to mention sutton & mcgruder. Also, transfers count. ( Kelly)
so other than clemente, kelly, sutton, mcgruder, nino, diaz, russell, shane, beasley, and walker....Foster will most likely have a higher ranking than every Frank recruit ever signed. Why aren't more people poppin bottles?
yeah. I like the Foster commit no doubt, but the revisionist history about the recruits Frank brought in is pointless. Also, while the '14 mentions look promising, Webers '12 & '13 recruiting have been abysmal. Foster as the far and away best looking recruit in 2 classes doesn't speak well. And there looks to be a huge gaping hole in talent that will rear itself in a couple of years if recruiting doesn't improve in a big rough ridin' hurry. In short, things are going pretty much how everyone expected.
What revisionist history?
The only reference to Frank's recruiting in this thread is that Iowa St. has brought in better talent in the past couple years, meaning classes of 2011-2013.
And no, it hasn't demonstrably been better and no it doesn't mean they have completely surpassed us, but it is what it is.
If KSU is going to be competitive in the upper half of the league in coming years, we're going to have land some higher caliber prospects in future classes. No one is denying that.
Landing Foster, a potential difference maker, at least gives Weber's recruiting some optimism. I'm not going to piss on that.
Not talking about the Iowa St stuff. Just the idea mentioned above that Foster is as good, or better, than any Frank recruit that wasn't a 5-star out of highschool, which just struck me as silly. Very happy about the Foster commitment, just hopeful that it's an inflection point rather than a relative maximum. Know what I mean?
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people are actually defending frank's recruiting in an effort to disparage oscar's
awesome
:lol:
Yeah, how sad does that make oscar's?
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also the big top 50 from fresno.
underdog, i'm glad you like foster. i don't discount that he might be much better than his rating. i felt the same way about ar-t, it certainly can happen. i don't think all of weber's kstate recruits are better than their ratings, however. cartier martin was a fantastic player, and he never won crap, because one good player isn't close to enough.
one of the previous posters expressed it perfectly. weber's kstate recruits are objectively worse than his iu recruits. and he got fired from that job. i don't consider the totality of his recruiting to be particularly encouraging, or reason to revisit my thoughts on his hire. this thread seems as good a place to express those thoughts as any.
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also the big top 50 from fresno.
underdog, i'm glad you like foster. i don't discount that he might be much better than his rating. i felt the same way about ar-t, it certainly can happen. i don't think all of weber's kstate recruits are better than their ratings, however. cartier martin was a fantastic player, and he never won crap, because one good player isn't close to enough.
one of the previous posters expressed it perfectly. weber's kstate recruits are objectively worse than his iu recruits. and he got fired from that job. i don't consider the totality of his recruiting to be particularly encouraging, or reason to revisit my thoughts on his hire. this thread seems as good a place to express those thoughts as any.
Weber has also has moved his recruiting base, so it going to take some time for him to adjust. I believe this to be a good thing. I am not fan of the talent the Big Lake Area/ Upper midwest produces. I will take Texas Athletes(Brooks) and Prep school ballers(Chet) over the overrated crap produced in the Big Ten Area.
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also the big top 50 from fresno.
underdog, i'm glad you like foster. i don't discount that he might be much better than his rating. i felt the same way about ar-t, it certainly can happen. i don't think all of weber's kstate recruits are better than their ratings, however. cartier martin was a fantastic player, and he never won crap, because one good player isn't close to enough.
one of the previous posters expressed it perfectly. weber's kstate recruits are objectively worse than his iu recruits. and he got fired from that job. i don't consider the totality of his recruiting to be particularly encouraging, or reason to revisit my thoughts on his hire. this thread seems as good a place to express those thoughts as any.
Landing Foster, a potential difference maker, at least gives Weber's recruiting some optimism. I'm not going to piss on that.
Not sure how my rants about Foster in the "Welcome Marcus Foster" thread were misconstrued into "we will now be great thanks to this 1 player" but I guess it did.
No kidding it takes more than 1. I'm stressing optimism and momentum. Foster could average 20 per game and we could still suck. That's not my point and it never was.
Foster's commit proves this staff can land a solid to potentially very good player. Hopefully, his commitment will open the door to landing more good players. We will need them.
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I'll bitch about Weber in other threads. This thread is about Hooray for a recruit I not only don't hate, but like even.
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Hey guys, WE OUTRECRUITED SMU!!!!!! :pbj:
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The first thing is that Hustle & Flow will be the centerpiece of the Web Five. The second thing is that the first thing is a good thing.
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ESPN RATINGS
2007
Michael Beasley (1st PF) 98
Jake Pullen (16th PG) 93
Dom Sutton POST
Fred Brown (85th SG) 76
Ron Anderson (179th PF) 71
Andre Gilbert JC
2008
Jordan Henriquez (16th C) 91
Abdul Herrera JC
Buchi Awaji JC
2009
Wally Judge (4th PF) 97
Devon Peterson JC
Jordan Henriquez POST
Rodney McGruder (33rd SG) 89
Nike Russell (38th SG) 89
Martavious Irving (72nd SG) 86
2010
Freddy Asprilla JC
Shane Southwell (21st SF) 92
Nino Williams (35th SF)90
Will Spradling (55th PG)88
Jeuvol Myles JC
2011
Adrian Diaz (20th C) 90
Thomas Gipson (31st PF) 90
Angel Rodriquez (35th PG) 90
Jeremy Jones JC
Omari Lawrence JC
James Watson JC
2012
Micheal Orris (22nd PG) 89
Darrel Johnson (86th PF) 85
2013
Marcus Foster (27th PG) 80
Alex Etherington (112th SF) 64
FRANK
PG = 16, 55, 35
SG = 85, 33, 38, 72
SF = 21, 35
PF = 1, 179, 4, 31
C = 16, 20
oscar
PG = 22, 27
SG =
SF = 112
PF = 86
C =
This whole post is just absolute garbage, and what's worse is that in all your skewed data you put a JC next to Devon. I mean GMAFB.
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Also, ESPN has been in a process of changing their rating system from something that was total garbage into something useful.
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I like that our TX recruiter just landed a solid TX recruit. Like football, we need to be pulling from TX on a consistent basis. I do like the JYC types from NYC and DC too, though.
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I like that our TX recruiter just landed a solid TX recruit. Like football, we need to be pulling from TX on a consistent basis. I do like the JYC types from NYC and DC too, though.
I agree, this is a solid point. Weber said he was going to focus on recruiting TX, find a recruiter, and land kids from the state. There is a long way to go, but landing Foster is a good sign that at least he has gotten off to a good start there.
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I like that our TX recruiter just landed a solid TX recruit. Like football, we need to be pulling from TX on a consistent basis. I do like the JYC types from NYC and DC too, though.
I agree, this is a solid point. Weber said he was going to focus on recruiting TX, find a recruiter, and land kids from the state. There is a long way to go, but landing Foster is a good sign that at least he has gotten off to a good start there.
It's like he landed Nick Russell only this was his first choice. And Nick wasn't bad at all.
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I do think that SR Angel and SO Foster have the potential to be a pretty salty backcourt. With SRs Diaz, Gip and Nino in the front court...might be another year of good basketball. :bball:
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This is going to get the team #burnitdown/#butthurt bunch in a frenzy, but so far chicken nuggets without coaching a game, hasn't hurt us. The 2012 class was so last second and reports are that Johnson might be decent, so we might of hit one at the buzzard there. 2013, Foster is a steal, and the jury is still out on Etherington. Everyone hated him for getting kicked out of a game in summer ball, but if that was Frank, team #jerkhimoff would be in full force. I'm just saying give him a chance. I will hate him when he gives me something to hate him for, minus his dorky exterior. Until then, my hate resides with Currie.
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fanning just bringing the hard truths
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This is going to get the team #burnitdown/#butthurt bunch in a frenzy, but so far chicken nuggets without coaching a game, hasn't hurt us. The 2012 class was so last second and reports are that Johnson might be decent, so we might of hit one at the buzzard there. 2013, Foster is a steal, and the jury is still out on Etherington. Everyone hated him for getting kicked out of a game in summer ball, but if that was Frank, team #jerkhimoff would be in full force. I'm just saying give him a chance. I will hate him when he gives me something to hate him for, minus his dorky exterior. Until then, my hate resides with Currie.
No one hates him for what he's done at K-State. No one hated him for getting kicked out of a game in summer ball. Everyone who hates him now has hated him since he got hired.
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so we might of hit one at the buzzard there.
you are so adorable when you post stuff like this
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so we might of hit one at the buzzard there.
you are so adorable when you post stuff like this
:thumbs:
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This is going to get the team #burnitdown/#butthurt bunch in a frenzy, but so far chicken nuggets without coaching a game, hasn't hurt us. The 2012 class was so last second and reports are that Johnson might be decent, so we might of hit one at the buzzard there. 2013, Foster is a steal, and the jury is still out on Etherington. Everyone hated him for getting kicked out of a game in summer ball, but if that was Frank, team #jerkhimoff would be in full force. I'm just saying give him a chance. I will hate him when he gives me something to hate him for, minus his dorky exterior. Until then, my hate resides with Currie.
No one hates him for what he's done at K-State. No one hated him for getting kicked out of a game in summer ball. Everyone who hates him now has hated him since he got hired.
just for the record, i hated him way before he got hired.
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i wonder who has hated him the longest.
i wonder who hates him the most.
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i wonder who has hated him the longest.
i wonder who hates him the most.
Probably his wife.
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i wonder who has hated him the longest.
i wonder who hates him the most.
Probably his wife.
she loves him, he's her sire. (see his beautiful daughters?)
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i wonder who has hated him the longest.
i wonder who hates him the most.
Probably his wife.
she loves him, he's her sire. (see his beautiful daughters?)
Gross. Not his daughters, but the thought of Weber siring anyone. Positive those are somebody else's kids. Good looking out for the the rest of the world's future by Weber's wife there. No great feat though. They could have come out black or Asian and Weber would have been none the wiser. He thinks the rough ridin' stork brought them. Her toughest choice was between that and saying she harvested them from a cabage patch, except then Weber would have never stopped trying to find it. Good call in retrospect.
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i wonder who has hated him the longest.
i wonder who hates him the most.
+1. Rest assured, if we lose a close game to anybody, ever, I'm sure we'll find out pretty quickly.
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I mean, I hate him/the hire as much as anybody. The getting booted form brazil and Foster thing are both positives though. Still hate him though, just not going to try to make any positives into negatives as my first goal is for KSU to be ridiculously successful. If that can happen without my second goal of getting rid of Currie/Weber, awesome.
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i wonder who has hated him the longest.
i wonder who hates him the most.
Probably his wife.
she loves him, he's her sire. (see his beautiful daughters?)
Gross. Not his daughters, but the thought of Weber siring anyone. Positive those are somebody else's kids. Good looking out for the the rest of the world's future by Weber's wife there. No great feat though. They could have come out black or Asian and Weber would have been none the wiser. He thinks the rough ridin' stork brought them. Her toughest choice was between that and saying she harvested them from a cabage patch, except then Weber would have never stopped trying to find it. Good call in retrospect.
:lol: you wish he was your sire
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Probably his wife.
she loves him, he's her sire.
some of you nazi fucks should think about what it says about kstate that an incestous nazi is seen as a good fit for kansas state.
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i wonder who has hated him the longest.
i wonder who hates him the most.
Probably his wife.
she loves him, he's her sire. (see his beautiful daughters?)
Gross. Not his daughters, but the thought of Weber siring anyone. Positive those are somebody else's kids. Good looking out for the the rest of the world's future by Weber's wife there. No great feat though. They could have come out black or Asian and Weber would have been none the wiser. He thinks the rough ridin' stork brought them. Her toughest choice was between that and saying she harvested them from a cabage patch, except then Weber would have never stopped trying to find it. Good call in retrospect.
oh man, what a post.
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i wonder who has hated him the longest.
i wonder who hates him the most.
This is like my favorite pissclams post ever.
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The getting booted form brazil...positives though.
Perhaps I missed the explanation, but how could this be construed as a positive?
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Shows fire we thought he lacked
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Shows fire we thought he lacked
yet it also confirms he's a chicken nuggets slurping dumbfuck. "I didn't know you could get kicked out of a Fiba game". You idiot, oscar.
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Shows fire we thought he lacked
yet it also confirms he's a chicken nuggets slurping dumbfuck. "I didn't know you could get kicked out of a Fiba game". You idiot, oscar.
He's just lying, dumbfuck
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Shows fire we thought he lacked
yet it also confirms he's a chicken nuggets slurping dumbfuck. "I didn't know you could get kicked out of a Fiba game". You idiot, oscar.
He's just lying, dumbfuck
And what a brilliant lie it was. "Oh, golly gee, I got kicked out, I'll tell these rubes that I didn't know the rules. changing hearts and minds *slurp*"
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I agree that it was brilliant
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Shows fire we thought he lacked
yet it also confirms he's a chicken nuggets slurping dumbfuck. "I didn't know you could get kicked out of a Fiba game". You idiot, oscar.
He's just lying, dumbfuck
And what a brilliant lie it was. "Oh, golly gee, I got kicked out, I'll tell these rubes that I didn't know the rules. changing hearts and minds *slurp*"
He was channelling frank and bob before him
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I'd be pissed if he knew FIBA rules.
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Shows fire we thought he lacked
yet it also confirms he's a chicken nuggets slurping dumbfuck. "I didn't know you could get kicked out of a Fiba game". You idiot, oscar.
He's just lying, dumbfuck
And what a brilliant lie it was. "Oh, golly gee, I got kicked out, I'll tell these rubes that I didn't know the rules. changing hearts and minds *slurp*"
He was channelling frank and bob before him
it worked on you, I guess.
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that doesn't even make sense krusty
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I saw the Olympics. When did they get rid of the trapezoid? Who knows?
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that doesn't even make sense krusty
you liked the ejection and how he handled it, whatever he was trying to do.
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oscar isn't so stupid to think that anyone actually knows about the ejection. That's knowing FIBA rules level stupid.
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Shows fire we thought he lacked
yet it also confirms he's a chicken nuggets slurping dumbfuck. "I didn't know you could get kicked out of a Fiba game". You idiot, oscar.
frank continued the ruse that he was a simple math teacher yet for some reason his math was always wrong, Currie!
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Shows fire we thought he lacked
yet it also confirms he's a chicken nuggets slurping dumbfuck. "I didn't know you could get kicked out of a Fiba game". You idiot, oscar.
frank continued the ruse that he was a simple math teacher yet for some reason his math was always wrong, Currie!
Yeah, and this did not make me think Frank was a good guy or a good teacher or anything.
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that doesn't even make sense krusty
you liked the ejection and how he handled it, whatever he was trying to do.
mich, who cares about an ejection in some rando brazilian basketball game?
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that doesn't even make sense krusty
you liked the ejection and how he handled it, whatever he was trying to do.
mich, who cares about an ejection in some rando brazilian basketball game?
nobody. except every member of the butthurt association of America. to them it's a great (great) talking point.
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nobody. except every member of the butthurt association of America. to them it's a great (great) talking point.
No, I'm a card-carrying member. Can barely sit down. I couldn't care less about the ejection. I can find plenty of things to hate oscar for before having to pretend I care about him getting ejected from a fiba game.
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it's very obvious that some posters here so badly want oscar to be good, that they are willing to completely overlook the stupid stuff he does and says and play it off like he's just being "passionate". it kind of makes you wonder if the entire tenure of oscar being our head basketball coach is going to be like this with them rationalizing and downplaying every absolute stupid thing he says and does to the point that we won't ever be able to have any real discussion. because if so, woof.
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because if so, woof.
:lol: my initial post still stings huh
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it's very obvious that some posters here so badly want oscar to be good, that they are willing to completely overlook the stupid stuff he does and says and play it off like he's just being "passionate". it kind of makes you wonder if the entire tenure of oscar being our head basketball coach is going to be like this with them rationalizing and downplaying every absolute stupid thing he says and does to the point that we won't ever be able to have any real discussion. because if so, woof.
Who says oscar is passionate? I have never seen this out of him and would like if I did.
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The getting booted form brazil...positives though.
Perhaps I missed the explanation, but how could this be construed as a positive?
Yea, what SD said. Still don't like him, but the booting in brazil was a positive for me.
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it's very obvious that some posters here so badly want oscar to be good, that they are willing to completely overlook the stupid stuff he does and says and play it off like he's just being "passionate". it kind of makes you wonder if the entire tenure of oscar being our head basketball coach is going to be like this with them rationalizing and downplaying every absolute stupid thing he says and does to the point that we won't ever be able to have any real discussion. because if so, woof.
oh, brother
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it's very obvious that some posters here so badly want oscar to be good, that they are willing to completely overlook the stupid stuff he does and says and play it off like he's just being "passionate".
I don't want oscar to be good. I want our team to be good - and if they win games I don't give a single flying eff what stupid stuff oscar does. Pretty simple. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt until he fails. What choice do I have? He's been hired, Frank was pushed out, and nothing is ever going to change this.
If he doesn't win this year - I'll be on team #burnitdown
If he misses the postseason next year - I'll be on team #burnitdown
If he goes to consecutive NITs - I'll be on team #burnitdown.
Until these ^ things happen, yes I will support our coach and team and hope for the best. I took the same position with Snyder. Gave him a chance and glad I did.
Gi
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Hirschi plays in the Caprock Classic in Lubbock in December I think. They did last year anyway.
We are taking our squad there again this season, so hopefully I will get to catch him play in between our games. Not sure if this is possible, however, since the tourney is played at several different sites.
Will report back late December.
Here's the link for said tourney website...
http://www.caprockclassic.com (http://www.caprockclassic.com)
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Hirschi plays in the Caprock Classic in Lubbock in December I think. They did last year anyway.
We are taking our squad there again this season, so hopefully I will get to catch him play in between our games. Not sure if this is possible, however, since the tourney is played at several different sites.
Will report back late December.
Here's the link for said tourney website...
http://www.caprockclassic.com (http://www.caprockclassic.com)
If doesn't look like WF Hirschi is on the roster for this year's field, but that doesn't absolutely mean they won't be there.
http://www.caprockclassic.com/Tournament/2012-Teams
But any sort of West Texas intel you could give us on Foster, would be greatly appreciated. :thumbs:
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that doesn't even make sense krusty
you liked the ejection and how he handled it, whatever he was trying to do.
mich, who cares about an ejection in some rando brazilian basketball game?
oh kim, you adorable dumbfuck.
The getting booted form brazil and Foster thing are both positives though.
The getting booted form brazil...positives though.
Perhaps I missed the explanation, but how could this be construed as a positive?
Shows fire we thought he lacked
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Foster is a good get, looking forward to our current staff being able to sign more good players in the future so that our team can be good. Go Cats.
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it's very obvious that some posters here so badly want oscar to be good, that they are willing to completely overlook the stupid stuff he does and says and play it off like he's just being "passionate". it kind of makes you wonder if the entire tenure of oscar being our head basketball coach is going to be like this with them rationalizing and downplaying every absolute stupid thing he says and does to the point that we won't ever be able to have any real discussion. because if so, woof.
in other words "WELCOME MARCUS FOSTER!"
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Marcus Foster is a 4* type of player. Marcus Foster on a oscar Weber coached team, however, is more like a 4*/5* type of player. How stupid does everyone who thinks that he sucks look now?
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Talking point 1!
No, talking point 2!
NO NO talking point 3!
BUTTHURT!
snide comment question why you care!
Overreaction!
I am stupid can't think critically and don't understand the issue, but still want to say something edgy!
I will play both sides of the issue! Oh how clever am I!
I am taking the exact opposite view I had 8 months ago! Now KSU sport A must be supported at all costs! You are shitty fans!
I am taking the exact opposite view I had 8 months ago! Now KSU sport A is not sacred above criticism! This place is GPC!
Non sequitur!
This is an outrage!
Rehashed talking point 1!
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welcome, Chingon
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welcome, Chingon
Oh hai
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Talking point 1!
No, talking point 2!
NO NO talking point 3!
BUTTHURT!
snide comment question why you care!
Overreaction!
I am stupid can't think critically and don't understand the issue, but still want to say something edgy!
I will play both sides of the issue! Oh how clever am I!
I am taking the exact opposite view I had 8 months ago! Now KSU sport A must be supported at all costs! You are shitty fans!
I am taking the exact opposite view I had 8 months ago! Now KSU sport A is not sacred above criticism! This place is GPC!
Non sequitur!
This is an outrage!
Rehashed talking point 1!
where's the strawman, jerk.
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Talking point 1!
No, talking point 2!
NO NO talking point 3!
BUTTHURT!
snide comment question why you care!
Overreaction!
I am stupid can't think critically and don't understand the issue, but still want to say something edgy!
I will play both sides of the issue! Oh how clever am I!
I am taking the exact opposite view I had 8 months ago! Now KSU sport A must be supported at all costs! You are shitty fans!
I am taking the exact opposite view I had 8 months ago! Now KSU sport A is not sacred above criticism! This place is GPC!
Non sequitur!
This is an outrage!
Rehashed talking point 1!
I'm going to act like I fall under none of these and that I'm smarter than all of you.
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Talking point 1!
No, talking point 2!
NO NO talking point 3!
BUTTHURT!
snide comment question why you care!
Overreaction!
I am stupid can't think critically and don't understand the issue, but still want to say something edgy!
I will play both sides of the issue! Oh how clever am I!
I am taking the exact opposite view I had 8 months ago! Now KSU sport A must be supported at all costs! You are shitty fans!
I am taking the exact opposite view I had 8 months ago! Now KSU sport A is not sacred above criticism! This place is GPC!
Non sequitur!
This is an outrage!
Rehashed talking point 1!
where's the strawman, jerk.
I forgot him! Let me include him along with the other ones I missed:
I am destroying a position no one had because it is the only one I can actually attack.
Troll post to get attention! Look at me! Pay attention to me! LOOOK ATTTT MEEEEE!
I don't actually care about K-State sports, but I like talking crap on the internet!
Look how awesome I am being a devil's advocate!
Oh man you were wrong about something 2 years ago, but I was too chickenshit to call you out and now in hindsight I totally can!
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You're the best, chings. :blush:
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Oh and lest anyone try to "zing" me, I have done many of those things so you can save yourself from hunting to post them.
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that doesn't even make sense krusty
you liked the ejection and how he handled it, whatever he was trying to do.
mich, who cares about an ejection in some rando brazilian basketball game?
oh kim, you adorable dumbfuck.
oh my
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Do we need to update this?
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Do we need to update this?
Man oh man, we should have known this kid was trouble when he said "...taking my talents..."
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Do we need to update this?
Man oh man, we should have known this kid was trouble when he said "...taking my talents..."
all caps threads never work out. thats day 1 on this blog, pete.
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Do we need to update this?
Man oh man, we should have known this kid was trouble when he said "...taking my talents..."
all caps threads never work out. thats day 1 on this blog, pete.
totally
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I get people not liking Weber or Currie or whatever. I don't get trying to downplay landing a pretty solid recruit. Is this what it's going to be like after all our wins this year? because, woof. at some point you have to wonder if people want to be right about Weber more than they want to win basketball games.
like, I think Weber is going to suck ass in a couple years. However, I'm going to really hope he doesn't.
Obviously, the fear/concern that's driving negative posting, not buying tickets, etc. is the middle ground between winning like we've been accustomed to the last 5 years and sucking ass, and residing in that middle ground for the foreseeable future following this upcoming season.
In a few years, when wins in the last few games may be the difference between an NIT and more chicken nuggets vs. the thing being burnt to it's final ashes, eff yeah, go whoever's playing the cats that night.
sure, and we did the same thing with Bill coming back. I'm glad you and I were wrong about that. I'm going to hope we're wrong about oscar and party if we are. I'm not going to be sad and wish I was right and fight every victory in hopes that I eventually am.
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I just quit team burnitdown.
we don't need you
Bump
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I've quit and rejoined so many times that I can't remember my current status.
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I've quit and rejoined so many times that I can't remember my current status.
rough ridin' slut
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also the big top 50 from fresno.
underdog, i'm glad you like foster. i don't discount that he might be much better than his rating. i felt the same way about ar-t, it certainly can happen. i don't think all of weber's kstate recruits are better than their ratings, however. cartier martin was a fantastic player, and he never won crap, because one good player isn't close to enough.
one of the previous posters expressed it perfectly. weber's kstate recruits are objectively worse than his iu recruits. and he got fired from that job. i don't consider the totality of his recruiting to be particularly encouraging, or reason to revisit my thoughts on his hire. this thread seems as good a place to express those thoughts as any.
in retrospect, this was a really good post by me. i should pretend to be nice and explain to people why they are wrong more often.
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we ran off underdog
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we ran off underdog
i think it was mostly me.
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I hope UW still lurks. I miss him.
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we ran off underdog
i think it was mostly me.
I guess that girl could've just asked you to do it for her too instead of making a whole thing about it.
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I guess that girl could've just asked you to it for her too instead of making a whole thing about it.
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I guess that girl could've just asked you to it for her too instead of making a whole thing about it.
:confused:
I left out a "do" in my post but I don't think that would change you remembering it. Reinstate your platinum membership?
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I left out a "do" in my post but I don't think that would change you remembering it. Reinstate your platinum membership?
it wouldn't. the basic problem is that you remember just about everything, and i remember almost nothing.