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Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2012, 08:05:20 PM
The lady cats had 11 points at the half.  Eleven.

They went on to score less than 30 in the game.

Pretty sure that it was a D1 game.

How the eff do you keep your job if that happens?  Answer: No one gives a crap.

In my estimation, Deb Patterson has a wonderful job.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Cire on March 19, 2012, 08:07:33 PM
Does not care.  Did not know they played a game.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 19, 2012, 08:09:10 PM
If our women's team went winless, I wouldn't care. Do not care if Deb is employed until she dies. If I had to choose something to be upset with, it's that we should cut Deb's pay in half, and give that half to Frank.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: kstater on March 19, 2012, 08:09:47 PM
You're giving her too much credit.  They scored 10 in the first half.
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: bigDcat on March 19, 2012, 08:10:59 PM
She made it just as far as Frank.


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Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2012, 08:15:37 PM
If our women's team went winless, I wouldn't care. Do not care if Deb is employed until she dies. If I had to choose something to be upset with, it's that we should cut Deb's pay in half, and give that half to Frank.

Agree completely.   She should make less money than the varsity men's coach at Manhattan high.   There are fewer expectations.  She doesn't even have to teach world geography or Driver's Ed.!

Again, I am soooo jealous of her job.  Bravo Deb!
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 19, 2012, 08:17:26 PM
Pretty nice gig.

Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2012, 08:17:37 PM
She made it just as far as Frank.


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Yep.   Though, while I don't like to compare scores, the 11 at the half and a losing margin of nearly 50 do paint a bit different picture than Frank's team's effort.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 19, 2012, 08:19:31 PM
She made it just as far as Frank.


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Yep.   Though, while I don't like to compare scores, the 11 at the half and a losing margin of nearly 50 do paint a bit different picture than Frank's team's effort.

Not to mention, the lady cats didn't lose a senior who was their leading rebounder and 2nd leading scorer less than 24 hours before the game.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: wetwillie on March 19, 2012, 08:30:25 PM
Don't look up her salary info, it will make you angry.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Deez Nutz on March 19, 2012, 08:34:00 PM
Two Big 12 Championships and two-time Big 12 coach of the year.  No shame in losing to UConn, but losing that bad is kind of embarrassing.  They had lots of open looks in the first half, but could not hit any shots.  Shouldn't have been that bad, but oh well.
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: bigDcat on March 19, 2012, 08:34:13 PM
Fewest points scored in a NCAA tournament game! :ksu:


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Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: 'taterblast on March 19, 2012, 08:37:00 PM
she makes more than HALF A MILLION rough ridin' DOLLARS PER YEAR.

are you kidding me? i had no idea it was this bad. eff you currie.
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2012, 08:37:38 PM
Two Big 12 Championships and two-time Big 12 coach of the year.  No shame in losing to UConn, but losing that bad is kind of embarrassing.  They had lots of open looks in the first half, but could not hit any shots.  Shouldn't have been that bad, but oh well.

That can't be true.  Link?

If she had accomplished those things it seems like we would have heard of it.   Fishy, at best.
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2012, 08:38:50 PM
Fewest points scored in a NCAA tournament game! :ksu:


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That's one to remember for the FattyFatFat trivia contests (more details to come)!
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: pissclams on March 19, 2012, 08:43:31 PM
10 points, not 11 at half.
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2012, 08:44:53 PM
10 points, not 11 at half.

Jesus, pour salt in their wounds.  What a dick.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 19, 2012, 08:45:17 PM
I remembered seeing that they were playing tonight.  I turned on the TV and the score was like 68-20 or something close.  I watched for about 25 seconds.  That was the entirety of the time I spent watching women's NCAA basketball in 2011-2012.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 19, 2012, 08:46:17 PM
Fewest points scored in a NCAA tournament game! :ksu:


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That's one to remember for the FattyFatFat trivia contests (more details to come)!

Um, I need to be included in this so I can demonstrate my superior intellect. 
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2012, 08:52:07 PM
Fewest points scored in a NCAA tournament game! :ksu:


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That's one to remember for the FattyFatFat trivia contests (more details to come)!

Um, I need to be included in this so I can demonstrate my superior intellect.

I can tell you that the mods are already choosing sides, it's going to be a blood bath.   KK will have the deets later....will probably be a summer event or "family reunion" event (a good idea of Currie's, by the way!)
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: The Whale on March 19, 2012, 09:03:26 PM
"Hope you enjoyed the game John!"

(sarcastic clap)
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2012, 09:09:13 PM
"Hope you enjoyed the game John!"

(sarcastic clap)

I look forward to his email about it!
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: star seed 7 on March 19, 2012, 09:12:28 PM
If you want to know what womens basketball looks like, watch a 5th gade boys after school game.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 19, 2012, 09:13:50 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but it was 10 points at half Pete.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Barry McCockner on March 19, 2012, 09:14:29 PM
Answer:  No, I don't care, but for some reason I found myself smiling when I saw this post.  Might be a crack in my EMAW.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: j-dub on March 19, 2012, 09:15:35 PM
only care that deb makes anything upwards of 30k. haven't watched the deb's in years.
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2012, 09:16:16 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but it was 10 points at half Pete.

Hey dick hole, Clams already brought that up.

These are student rough ridin' athletes you son of a bitch!
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: 'taterblast on March 19, 2012, 09:17:25 PM
Quote
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/news/story?id=4710051

i had no idea. this is a crime.
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2012, 09:22:51 PM
Quote
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/news/story?id=4710051

i had no idea. this is a crime.

I'll bet she thinks she deserves it, god bless her heart.

You go, Deb!

Is she single?  I wonder if she would think I am her type? :fingerscrossed:
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 19, 2012, 09:23:54 PM
Hey Pete, great thread.I just wanted to say that I think it was 10 points at half, but I'm not lady cats expert like you, so I could be wrong. Thanks for looking into this for me.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: ZmoneyKSU on March 19, 2012, 09:25:36 PM
Who's that?
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 19, 2012, 09:30:17 PM
Quote
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/news/story?id=4710051

i had no idea. this is a crime.

I'll bet she thinks she deserves it, god bless her heart.

You go, Deb!

Is she single?  I wonder if she would think I am her type? :fingerscrossed:

You are almost definitely her type.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: O-town Kat on March 19, 2012, 09:30:51 PM
It was 10 at half, and did you know, it could have been 8 if that one 'stroballer didn't hit a FG aT tHe BuZzEr!!!
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2012, 09:32:20 PM
Quote
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/news/story?id=4710051

i had no idea. this is a crime.

I'll bet she thinks she deserves it, god bless her heart.

You go, Deb!

Is she single?  I wonder if she would think I am her type? :fingerscrossed:

You are almost definitely her type.

What do you think would be the best way to approach her?  How do you woo a woman like Deb?
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Deez Nutz on March 19, 2012, 09:34:55 PM
Hey Pete, you aren't very good at math.  I believe they lost by 46 points and not 50 as you seem to indicate in the thread title.  Please check into this for me and feel free to edit your title as you see fit.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: JavaCat on March 19, 2012, 09:35:54 PM
Remember when they had all the Kansas girls and Bramlage was being filled for women's basketball games. Being around that many tucks and townies was rough ridin' scary. You could say "damn" and you could hear them saying a prayer for you. My gawd, to think of those times on the boards... JFC, don't rough ridin' leave us Frank!
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 19, 2012, 09:36:51 PM
Fewest points scored in a NCAA tournament game! :ksu:


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That's one to remember for the FattyFatFat trivia contests (more details to come)!

Um, I need to be included in this so I can demonstrate my superior intellect.

I can tell you that the mods are already choosing sides, it's going to be a blood bath.   KK will have the deets later....will probably be a summer event or "family reunion" event (a good idea of Currie's, by the way!)

Post them when available, I want in.  I know a lot of unless info, Joe Totula will vouch for me.
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2012, 09:38:43 PM
Hey Pete, you aren't very good at math.  I believe they lost by 46 points and not 50 as you seem to indicate in the thread title.  Please check into this for me and feel free to edit your title as you see fit.  Thanks.

Mistakes were made.  Let's just move past that, and figure out how I can win the heart of one Ms. Deb Patterson.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 19, 2012, 09:41:19 PM
Quote
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/news/story?id=4710051

i had no idea. this is a crime.

I'll bet she thinks she deserves it, god bless her heart.

You go, Deb!

Is she single?  I wonder if she would think I am her type? :fingerscrossed:

You are almost definitely her type.

What do you think would be the best way to approach her?  How do you woo a woman like Deb?

The Lord, Pete.  Our holy father who loves us all and would not allow the UCONN Huskies to humiliate and destroy Deb's team unless it was all part of his Plan.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Deez Nutz on March 19, 2012, 09:43:03 PM
Remember when they had all the Kansas girls and Bramlage was being filled for women's basketball games. Being around that many tucks and townies was rough ridin' scary. You could say "damn" and you could hear them saying a prayer for you. My gawd, to think of those times on the boards... JFC, don't rough ridin' leave us Frank!
Hey Pete, you aren't very good at math.  I believe they lost by 46 points and not 50 as you seem to indicate in the thread title.  Please check into this for me and feel free to edit your title as you see fit.  Thanks.

Mistakes were made.  Let's just move past that, and figure out how I can win the heart of one Ms. Deb Patterson.

Just be yourself.   :lol:  (God, I kill me.)
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2012, 09:47:11 PM
Quote
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/news/story?id=4710051

i had no idea. this is a crime.

I'll bet she thinks she deserves it, god bless her heart.

You go, Deb!

Is she single?  I wonder if she would think I am her type? :fingerscrossed:

You are almost definitely her type.

What do you think would be the best way to approach her?  How do you woo a woman like Deb?

The Lord, Pete.  Our holy father who loves us all and would not allow the UCONN Huskies to humiliate and destroy Deb's team unless it was all part of his Plan.

This is going to be much more difficult than I thought.

I am going to need access to a live white dove, 30 pieces of unrefined silver, a lamb (preferably not a goat, but will work in a pinch), a circus tent, and if anyone knows of a person living with leprosy please shoot me a PM.   TIA
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 19, 2012, 10:06:31 PM
I could count the amount of women's games I've watched in my life on my tail*.





*I don't have a tail.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: raquetcat on March 19, 2012, 10:10:19 PM
you know what, we could have all those wins and titles like Uconn and Tennessee, but give me home grown, corn/wheat/beef/pork/rev honey fed Kansas girls that play the right way and I'll take that any day over those thugs that those programs have!!!!
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: bigDcat on March 19, 2012, 10:16:31 PM
you know what, we could have all those wins and titles like Uconn and Tennessee, but give me home grown, corn/wheat/beef/pork/rev honey fed Kansas girls that play the right way and I'll take that any day over those thugs that those programs have!!!!
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2Fgx1XzGkZ0cg%2F0.jpg&hash=82b95c3377b4d0bcc4890dbbba043a1d7a0c8f3d)
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Big Sam on March 19, 2012, 10:16:48 PM
If you want to know what womens basketball looks like, watch a 5th gade boys after school game.

Being f'ing generous on this one, aren't you.  Most decent 5th grade teams would school Div-I college chick hoops teams.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Deez Nutz on March 19, 2012, 10:17:46 PM
To those complaining about Deb making half a million per year, here is a little food for thought.  Gail Goestenkors at Texas was making $1.25 Million per year and only made it past the first round once in the past five seasons.  In the same five years, Deb advanced to the second round three times and won an outright Big 12 championship.  Not to say she is without faults, but she certainly elevated our program from where it was in the decade before she got here.  I want the program to improve from where it is now and for her to land some high-level recruits.  The days of Ohlde and Wecker were a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2012, 10:21:07 PM
 :jerk:
Women's basketball is useless, the lesbian makes too much money

Ooooohhhhhh so edgy.  Some of you are more tuckish than you're willing to see.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2012, 10:22:14 PM
I had to check it...

Total   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   63   0.41   21.1%   31.7%   32.7%   8.8%
Opp   63   1.14   57.3%   25.4%   42.9%   21.8%


.41 points per possession is pretty amazing.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: 'taterblast on March 19, 2012, 10:29:45 PM
To those complaining about Deb making half a million per year, here is a little food for thought.  Gail Goestenkors at Texas was making $1.25 Million per year and only made it past the first round once in the past five seasons.  In the same five years, Deb advanced to the second round three times and won an outright Big 12 championship.  Not to say she is without faults, but she certainly elevated our program from where it was in the decade before she got here.  I want the program to improve from where it is now and for her to land some high-level recruits.  The days of Ohlde and Wecker were a lot of fun.

 :dubious:
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2012, 10:38:26 PM
I had to check it...

Total   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   63   0.41   21.1%   31.7%   32.7%   8.8%
Opp   63   1.14   57.3%   25.4%   42.9%   21.8%


.41 points per possession is pretty amazing.

Thanks I was wondering what the ppp and to% were.  They only had 20 turnovers with a point total that low you would think that number would be double.  I actually watched the game, all of it, and I've never seen a shooting performance like that, would have previously thought it was impossible.
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2012, 10:46:26 PM
To those complaining about Deb making half a million per year, here is a little food for thought.  Gail Goestenkors at Texas was making $1.25 Million per year and only made it past the first round once in the past five seasons.  In the same five years, Deb advanced to the second round three times and won an outright Big 12 championship.  Not to say she is without faults, but she certainly elevated our program from where it was in the decade before she got here.  I want the program to improve from where it is now and for her to land some high-level recruits.  The days of Ohlde and Wecker were a lot of fun.

How do you know all this stuff?
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Deez Nutz on March 19, 2012, 10:46:57 PM
:jerk:
Women's basketball is useless, the lesbian makes too much money

Ooooohhhhhh so edgy.  Some of you are more tuckish than you're willing to see.

Bonnie Hendrickson at KU currently makes $635,000 per year.  In 2009, she got paid $1.8 million, about $1.3 million of which was a bonus for making it through five years without getting fired for cause.  Poor performance is not considered cause.  She never made the NCAA tournament until this year as an 11 seed.  Here are her Big 12 coaching records:

2005:  5-11
2006:  5-11
2007:  4-12
2008:  4-12
2009:  6-10
2010:  5-11
2011:  6-10
2012:  8-10

Would you believe she got an extension, bonus, and pay raise in 2009?  We are living the high-life over here compared to those suffering through 8 years of Bonnie-Ball and genuinely overpaying for it.     
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 19, 2012, 10:49:40 PM
Quote
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/news/story?id=4710051

i had no idea. this is a crime.

I'll bet she thinks she deserves it, god bless her heart.

You go, Deb!

Is she single?  I wonder if she would think I am her type? :fingerscrossed:

You are almost definitely her type.

What do you think would be the best way to approach her?  How do you woo a woman like Deb?

The Lord, Pete.  Our holy father who loves us all and would not allow the UCONN Huskies to humiliate and destroy Deb's team unless it was all part of his Plan.

This is going to be much more difficult than I thought.

I am going to need access to a live white dove, 30 pieces of unrefined silver, a lamb (preferably not a goat, but will work in a pinch), a circus tent, and if anyone knows of a person living with leprosy please shoot me a PM.   TIA

Be yourself Pete.  Deb believes in putting who she really is out there, and damn the critics.  What you see is what you get.

Also, she is a Christian and Christians believe that God reanimates the dead, much like the Walking Dead.  Have a chat with her about the similarities.  Maybe make a joke like "If your team could shoot half as good as Hershel did with that shotgun, you wouldn't have been humiliated so badly"  You know, light hearted stuff.
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2012, 10:50:09 PM
:jerk:
Women's basketball is useless, the lesbian makes too much money

Ooooohhhhhh so edgy.  Some of you are more tuckish than you're willing to see.

Bonnie Hendrickson at KU currently makes $635,000 per year.  In 2009, she got paid $1.8 million, about $1.3 million of which was a bonus for making it through five years without getting fired for cause.  Poor performance is not considered cause.  She never made the NCAA tournament until this year as an 11 seed.  Here are her Big 12 coaching records:

2005:  5-11
2006:  5-11
2007:  4-12
2008:  4-12
2009:  6-10
2010:  5-11
2011:  6-10
2012:  8-10

Would you believe she got an extension, bonus, and pay raise in 2009?  We are living the high-life over here compared to those suffering through 8 years of Bonnie-Ball and genuinely overpaying for it.   

It seems like you are not joking about following women's basketball. 
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: kim carnes on March 19, 2012, 10:55:27 PM
it blows my mind that any women's coach makes more than 200k per year, and I feel like I'm being generous with that number.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Deez Nutz on March 19, 2012, 10:55:48 PM
:jerk:
Women's basketball is useless, the lesbian makes too much money

Ooooohhhhhh so edgy.  Some of you are more tuckish than you're willing to see.

Bonnie Hendrickson at KU currently makes $635,000 per year.  In 2009, she got paid $1.8 million, about $1.3 million of which was a bonus for making it through five years without getting fired for cause.  Poor performance is not considered cause.  She never made the NCAA tournament until this year as an 11 seed.  Here are her Big 12 coaching records:

2005:  5-11
2006:  5-11
2007:  4-12
2008:  4-12
2009:  6-10
2010:  5-11
2011:  6-10
2012:  8-10

Would you believe she got an extension, bonus, and pay raise in 2009?  We are living the high-life over here compared to those suffering through 8 years of Bonnie-Ball and genuinely overpaying for it.   

It seems like you are not joking about following women's basketball.

I enjoy it when we are good.  When we are only mediocre, I lose interest pretty fast.  This year I only made it to one game, but like I said before, the days of Ohlde and Wecker were pretty fun.
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2012, 10:56:26 PM
Quote
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/news/story?id=4710051

i had no idea. this is a crime.

I'll bet she thinks she deserves it, god bless her heart.

You go, Deb!

Is she single?  I wonder if she would think I am her type? :fingerscrossed:

You are almost definitely her type.

What do you think would be the best way to approach her?  How do you woo a woman like Deb?

The Lord, Pete.  Our holy father who loves us all and would not allow the UCONN Huskies to humiliate and destroy Deb's team unless it was all part of his Plan.

This is going to be much more difficult than I thought.

I am going to need access to a live white dove, 30 pieces of unrefined silver, a lamb (preferably not a goat, but will work in a pinch), a circus tent, and if anyone knows of a person living with leprosy please shoot me a PM.   TIA

Be yourself Pete.  Deb believes in putting who she really is out there, and damn the critics.  What you see is what you get.

Also, she is a Christian and Christians believe that God reanimates the dead, much like the Walking Dead.  Have a chat with her about the similarities.  Maybe make a joke like "If your team could shoot half as good as Hershel did with that shotgun, you wouldn't have been humiliated so badly"  You know, light hearted stuff.

Great tips, will do.  Especially the part about the Walking Dead.  I am going to hint around about the Asian boy and Hershel's daughter...see if she catches my drift, if know what I mean.

Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2012, 11:00:23 PM
  lesbian makes too much money


Whoa, hang on there.   No reason to start throwing around that kind of bigoted language.   How would you like it if I called you a ginger lover?  Doesn't feel very good, does it MIR?

Glass houses MIR!

Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: kim carnes on March 19, 2012, 11:02:55 PM
The salary cap for an ENTIRE WNBA TEAM in 2010 was $827,000.  Deb makes almost as much as an entire WNBA team to coach our broke school to an 8 seed in the NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2012, 11:03:32 PM
I think I'll put this here: http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=106955&SPID=13257&DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=205400477&DB_OEM_ID=10410
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2012, 11:03:55 PM
:jerk:
Women's basketball is useless, the lesbian makes too much money

Ooooohhhhhh so edgy.  Some of you are more tuckish than you're willing to see.

Bonnie Hendrickson at KU currently makes $635,000 per year.  In 2009, she got paid $1.8 million, about $1.3 million of which was a bonus for making it through five years without getting fired for cause.  Poor performance is not considered cause.  She never made the NCAA tournament until this year as an 11 seed.  Here are her Big 12 coaching records:

2005:  5-11
2006:  5-11
2007:  4-12
2008:  4-12
2009:  6-10
2010:  5-11
2011:  6-10
2012:  8-10

Would you believe she got an extension, bonus, and pay raise in 2009?  We are living the high-life over here compared to those suffering through 8 years of Bonnie-Ball and genuinely overpaying for it.   

You don't need to compare Deb to Bonnie to realize her value.  She's the only coach on campus, with multiple conference titles.  She is underpaid, and is giving her school a discount but these knuckle dragging tucks on here think its edgy to be misinformed and ignorant.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2012, 11:06:08 PM
The salary cap for an ENTIRE WNBA TEAM in 2010 was $827,000.  Deb makes almost as much as an entire WNBA team to coach our broke school to an 8 seed in the NCAA tournament.

You people are riding with kim carnes and his flawed ass logic.
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2012, 11:08:54 PM
:jerk:
Women's basketball is useless, the lesbian makes too much money

Ooooohhhhhh so edgy.  Some of you are more tuckish than you're willing to see.

Bonnie Hendrickson at KU currently makes $635,000 per year.  In 2009, she got paid $1.8 million, about $1.3 million of which was a bonus for making it through five years without getting fired for cause.  Poor performance is not considered cause.  She never made the NCAA tournament until this year as an 11 seed.  Here are her Big 12 coaching records:

2005:  5-11
2006:  5-11
2007:  4-12
2008:  4-12
2009:  6-10
2010:  5-11
2011:  6-10
2012:  8-10

Would you believe she got an extension, bonus, and pay raise in 2009?  We are living the high-life over here compared to those suffering through 8 years of Bonnie-Ball and genuinely overpaying for it.   

You don't need to compare Deb to Bonnie to realize her value.  She's the only coach on campus, with multiple conference titles.  She is underpaid, and is giving her school a discount but these knuckle dragging tucks on here think its edgy to be misinformed and ignorant.

Not true dumbass.   Ever rough ridin' heard of soil judging?  Meat judging?  Debate?  Forensics?  Those teams compete at the very highest levels and have won NATIONAL championships.   Their coaches make a fraction of what Deb Patterson makes.

Who is misinformed now, you son of a bitch!
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2012, 11:12:38 PM
Am I being hooked here?  I'm in a really shitty mood tonight and I genuinely can't tell, eff!
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: kim carnes on March 19, 2012, 11:15:33 PM
Am I being hooked here?  I'm in a really shitty mood tonight and I genuinely can't tell, eff!

No, pete is deadly rough ridin' serious.  The rest of us are joking though.
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2012, 11:21:33 PM
Am I being hooked here?  I'm in a really shitty mood tonight and I genuinely can't tell, eff!

The short answer is yes.

However, I do think less of you for being a serious Women's basketball fan.  But, I have a very high opinion of you, so you are really not decreasing that much relative to others.

Let's just agree that it's technically "ok" for a reasonable person to be a serious women's basketball fan, but that every collegiate women's basketball coach in the world (cept for maybe 2 or 3) does not produce even half the value that they cost (they are crap investments), and are therefore basically like communist Russia, and we need to tear down that wall Mr. Gorbachev. 

Also,  kinda serious about dating Deb...
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2012, 11:43:59 PM
First of all I can't spin what happened tonight.  WCB is now where MCB was in the 60s and 70s.  The talent pool isn't deep the best programs get the best players and there simply aren't enough good players right now for there to be any real parity.  Again that's no defense for a terrible performance.

As for Deb, she took a program that was a national embarrassment.  Deb and I started at KSU at the same time.  The first time I heard about K-State Women's Basketball was the season before she took over.  The program made Sportscenter, and this was sportscenter in its heyday.  The program was on because a coach named Brian Agler put the program on probation, he was crap canned and Jack Hartman had to take over.  Agler cheated and still didn't win.  Deb made the tournament that first season, while on probation.  She has made the postseason 13 out of 16 seasons.  She has won 63% of her games and two conference championships.  She doesn't and shouldn't get paid based on what some randos think she should make, she like every other college athletics coach, gets based on her industry standard.  Using the industry standard she is giving K-State a hometown discount, she should be praised.

She has accomplished more and makes more money for the school than Brad Hill.  No one watches college baseball, why aren't we subjected to college baseball ridicule and calls for him to make $30,000?  Cliff Rovelto hasn't made 26 cents for KSU, should he volunteer?
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: OregonSmock on March 19, 2012, 11:50:08 PM
:jerk:
Women's basketball is useless, the lesbian makes too much money

Ooooohhhhhh so edgy.  Some of you are more tuckish than you're willing to see.

Bonnie Hendrickson at KU currently makes $635,000 per year.  In 2009, she got paid $1.8 million, about $1.3 million of which was a bonus for making it through five years without getting fired for cause.  Poor performance is not considered cause.  She never made the NCAA tournament until this year as an 11 seed.  Here are her Big 12 coaching records:

2005:  5-11
2006:  5-11
2007:  4-12
2008:  4-12
2009:  6-10
2010:  5-11
2011:  6-10
2012:  8-10

Would you believe she got an extension, bonus, and pay raise in 2009?  We are living the high-life over here compared to those suffering through 8 years of Bonnie-Ball and genuinely overpaying for it.   



Bonnie has been plagued with injuries her entire time at KU, and has improved the program on a year-to-year basis since taking over.  The process has been slow, but KU was doing really well this year until our best player (Caroline Davis) went out with an ACL injury.  We play Delaware in the NCAA tournament tomorrow, so I'd say our season has been just as good as K-State's.  I doubt we'll set an NCAA record for lowest point total in an NCAA tournament game.

Deb's a good coach, no doubt.  All she has to do is beat KU and make the post season, and she'll have a lifetime contract.  That's pretty much the standard for every single head coach in K-State's athletic department.  Forget championships.  Just beat KU and don't miss the post season and K-State fans will be content.
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 20, 2012, 12:00:32 AM
First of all I can't spin what happened tonight.  WCB is now where MCB was in the 60s and 70s.  The talent pool isn't deep the best programs get the best players and there simply aren't enough good players right now for there to be any real parity.  Again that's no defense for a terrible performance.

As for Deb, she took a program that was a national embarrassment.  Deb and I started at KSU at the same time.  The first time I heard about K-State Women's Basketball was the season before she took over.  The program made Sportscenter, and this was sportscenter in its heyday.  The program was on because a coach named Brian Agler put the program on probation, he was crap canned and Jack Hartman had to take over.  Agler cheated and still didn't win.  Deb made the tournament that first season, while on probation.  She has made the postseason 13 out of 16 seasons.  She has won 63% of her games and two conference championships.  She doesn't and shouldn't get paid based on what some randos think she should make, she like every other college athletics coach, gets based on her industry standard.  Using the industry standard she is giving K-State a hometown discount, she should be praised.

She has accomplished more and makes more money for the school than Brad Hill.  No one watches college baseball, why aren't we subjected to college baseball ridicule and calls for him to make $30,000?  Cliff Rovelto hasn't made 26 cents for KSU, should he volunteer?


I agree that both Brad Hill and Deb Patterson should make a salary that is in line with what they produce (which is jack crap).  They each coach sports that lose (collectively) millions of dollars. I do not give them "credit" for taking less at KSU, but that's mostly because I could give a crap whether their sports even existed.

I only care about the sports that make KSU money.   I dislike all the others, because they do not make KSU money (they do the opposite).

Also, I do not want to date Brad Hill.
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 20, 2012, 12:01:48 AM
:jerk:
Women's basketball is useless, the lesbian makes too much money

Ooooohhhhhh so edgy.  Some of you are more tuckish than you're willing to see.

Bonnie Hendrickson at KU currently makes $635,000 per year.  In 2009, she got paid $1.8 million, about $1.3 million of which was a bonus for making it through five years without getting fired for cause.  Poor performance is not considered cause.  She never made the NCAA tournament until this year as an 11 seed.  Here are her Big 12 coaching records:

2005:  5-11
2006:  5-11
2007:  4-12
2008:  4-12
2009:  6-10
2010:  5-11
2011:  6-10
2012:  8-10

Would you believe she got an extension, bonus, and pay raise in 2009?  We are living the high-life over here compared to those suffering through 8 years of Bonnie-Ball and genuinely overpaying for it.   



Bonnie has been plagued with injuries her entire time at KU, and has improved the program on a year-to-year basis since taking over.  The process has been slow, but KU was doing really well this year until our best player (Caroline Davis) went out with an ACL injury.  We play Delaware in the NCAA tournament tomorrow, so I'd say our season has been just as good as K-State's.  I doubt we'll set an NCAA record for lowest point total in an NCAA tournament game.

Deb's a good coach, no doubt.  All she has to do is beat KU and make the post season, and she'll have a lifetime contract.  That's pretty much the standard for every single head coach in K-State's athletic department.  Forget championships.  Just beat KU and don't miss the post season and K-State fans will be content.

Beems, don't you dare come over here and talk women's basketball "smack."

Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: hemmy on March 20, 2012, 12:09:28 AM
:jerk:
Women's basketball is useless, the lesbian makes too much money

Ooooohhhhhh so edgy.  Some of you are more tuckish than you're willing to see.

Bonnie Hendrickson at KU currently makes $635,000 per year.  In 2009, she got paid $1.8 million, about $1.3 million of which was a bonus for making it through five years without getting fired for cause.  Poor performance is not considered cause.  She never made the NCAA tournament until this year as an 11 seed.  Here are her Big 12 coaching records:

2005:  5-11
2006:  5-11
2007:  4-12
2008:  4-12
2009:  6-10
2010:  5-11
2011:  6-10
2012:  8-10

Would you believe she got an extension, bonus, and pay raise in 2009?  We are living the high-life over here compared to those suffering through 8 years of Bonnie-Ball and genuinely overpaying for it.   



Bonnie has been plagued with injuries her entire time at KU, and has improved the program on a year-to-year basis since taking over.  The process has been slow, but KU was doing really well this year until our best player (Caroline Davis) went out with an ACL injury.  We play Delaware in the NCAA tournament tomorrow, so I'd say our season has been just as good as K-State's.  I doubt we'll set an NCAA record for lowest point total in an NCAA tournament game.

Deb's a good coach, no doubt.  All she has to do is beat KU and make the post season, and she'll have a lifetime contract.  That's pretty much the standard for every single head coach in K-State's athletic department.  Forget championships.  Just beat KU and don't miss the post season and K-State fans will be content.

Absolute clockwork.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Deez Nutz on March 20, 2012, 12:11:59 AM
:jerk:
Women's basketball is useless, the lesbian makes too much money

Ooooohhhhhh so edgy.  Some of you are more tuckish than you're willing to see.

Bonnie Hendrickson at KU currently makes $635,000 per year.  In 2009, she got paid $1.8 million, about $1.3 million of which was a bonus for making it through five years without getting fired for cause.  Poor performance is not considered cause.  She never made the NCAA tournament until this year as an 11 seed.  Here are her Big 12 coaching records:

2005:  5-11
2006:  5-11
2007:  4-12
2008:  4-12
2009:  6-10
2010:  5-11
2011:  6-10
2012:  8-10

Would you believe she got an extension, bonus, and pay raise in 2009?  We are living the high-life over here compared to those suffering through 8 years of Bonnie-Ball and genuinely overpaying for it.   



Bonnie has been plagued with injuries her entire time at KU, and has improved the program on a year-to-year basis since taking over.  The process has been slow, but KU was doing really well this year until our best player (Caroline Davis) went out with an ACL injury.  We play Delaware in the NCAA tournament tomorrow, so I'd say our season has been just as good as K-State's.  I doubt we'll set an NCAA record for lowest point total in an NCAA tournament game.

Deb's a good coach, no doubt.  All she has to do is beat KU and make the post season, and she'll have a lifetime contract.  That's pretty much the standard for every single head coach in K-State's athletic department.  Forget championships.  Just beat KU and don't miss the post season and K-State fans will be content.

I can tell 21-2 is just killing you.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 20, 2012, 12:14:24 AM
:jerk:
Women's basketball is useless, the lesbian makes too much money

Ooooohhhhhh so edgy.  Some of you are more tuckish than you're willing to see.

Bonnie Hendrickson at KU currently makes $635,000 per year.  In 2009, she got paid $1.8 million, about $1.3 million of which was a bonus for making it through five years without getting fired for cause.  Poor performance is not considered cause.  She never made the NCAA tournament until this year as an 11 seed.  Here are her Big 12 coaching records:

2005:  5-11
2006:  5-11
2007:  4-12
2008:  4-12
2009:  6-10
2010:  5-11
2011:  6-10
2012:  8-10

Would you believe she got an extension, bonus, and pay raise in 2009?  We are living the high-life over here compared to those suffering through 8 years of Bonnie-Ball and genuinely overpaying for it.   



Bonnie has been plagued with injuries her entire time at KU, and has improved the program on a year-to-year basis since taking over.  The process has been slow, but KU was doing really well this year until our best player (Caroline Davis) went out with an ACL injury.  We play Delaware in the NCAA tournament tomorrow, so I'd say our season has been just as good as K-State's.  I doubt we'll set an NCAA record for lowest point total in an NCAA tournament game.

Deb's a good coach, no doubt.  All she has to do is beat KU and make the post season, and she'll have a lifetime contract.  That's pretty much the standard for every single head coach in K-State's athletic department.  Forget championships.  Just beat KU and don't miss the post season and K-State fans will be content.

Hey you rough ridin' sociopath, go away.  How sad is your life that you are seeking validation on a women's basketball thread on another schools board.

You seriously need to reevaluate the direction of your life.  Stop placing so much of your self worth on what strangers think about sports at a school you once attended.  Seek clinical help, seriously.
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 20, 2012, 12:22:34 AM
Let's try and keep the discourse civil, fellas.

The point of this thread is the giant gapping hole of crap into which we pour money, which is also called women's basketball (and every other sport that is not football or men's basketball).

Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 20, 2012, 12:25:44 AM
First of all I can't spin what happened tonight.  WCB is now where MCB was in the 60s and 70s.  The talent pool isn't deep the best programs get the best players and there simply aren't enough good players right now for there to be any real parity.  Again that's no defense for a terrible performance.

As for Deb, she took a program that was a national embarrassment.  Deb and I started at KSU at the same time.  The first time I heard about K-State Women's Basketball was the season before she took over.  The program made Sportscenter, and this was sportscenter in its heyday.  The program was on because a coach named Brian Agler put the program on probation, he was crap canned and Jack Hartman had to take over.  Agler cheated and still didn't win.  Deb made the tournament that first season, while on probation.  She has made the postseason 13 out of 16 seasons.  She has won 63% of her games and two conference championships.  She doesn't and shouldn't get paid based on what some randos think she should make, she like every other college athletics coach, gets based on her industry standard.  Using the industry standard she is giving K-State a hometown discount, she should be praised.

She has accomplished more and makes more money for the school than Brad Hill.  No one watches college baseball, why aren't we subjected to college baseball ridicule and calls for him to make $30,000?  Cliff Rovelto hasn't made 26 cents for KSU, should he volunteer?


I agree that both Brad Hill and Deb Patterson should make a salary that is in line with what they produce (which is jack crap).  They each coach sports that lose (collectively) millions of dollars. I do not give them "credit" for taking less at KSU, but that's mostly because I could give a crap whether their sports even existed.

I only care about the sports that make KSU money.   I dislike all the others, because they do not make KSU money (they do the opposite).

Also, I do not want to date Brad Hill.

So you base your level of like based on revenues and expenses?  Weird.  So you like the job LHC Bill Snyder is doing much more so than that of Frank Martin?  The raw numbers and the percentages indicate that football does a lot more for the school than basketball.  If that's how you feel there isn't much I can say as a defense.  I'm constantly baffled why so many smart people are perfectly content with having such a ridiculously moronic viewpoint about this.  No contracted employee in this country gets paid based on the system you propose and you know it, but you don't care because women's basketball is boring.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Tobias on March 20, 2012, 12:28:10 AM
Let's try and keep the discourse civil, fellas.

The point of this thread is the giant gapping hole of crap into which we pour money, which is also called women's basketball (and every other sport that is not football or men's basketball).

i enjoy having the option to watch the history channel, discovery, science, etc
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: OregonSmock on March 20, 2012, 12:29:23 AM
:jerk:
Women's basketball is useless, the lesbian makes too much money

Ooooohhhhhh so edgy.  Some of you are more tuckish than you're willing to see.

Bonnie Hendrickson at KU currently makes $635,000 per year.  In 2009, she got paid $1.8 million, about $1.3 million of which was a bonus for making it through five years without getting fired for cause.  Poor performance is not considered cause.  She never made the NCAA tournament until this year as an 11 seed.  Here are her Big 12 coaching records:

2005:  5-11
2006:  5-11
2007:  4-12
2008:  4-12
2009:  6-10
2010:  5-11
2011:  6-10
2012:  8-10

Would you believe she got an extension, bonus, and pay raise in 2009?  We are living the high-life over here compared to those suffering through 8 years of Bonnie-Ball and genuinely overpaying for it.   



Bonnie has been plagued with injuries her entire time at KU, and has improved the program on a year-to-year basis since taking over.  The process has been slow, but KU was doing really well this year until our best player (Caroline Davis) went out with an ACL injury.  We play Delaware in the NCAA tournament tomorrow, so I'd say our season has been just as good as K-State's.  I doubt we'll set an NCAA record for lowest point total in an NCAA tournament game.

Deb's a good coach, no doubt.  All she has to do is beat KU and make the post season, and she'll have a lifetime contract.  That's pretty much the standard for every single head coach in K-State's athletic department.  Forget championships.  Just beat KU and don't miss the post season and K-State fans will be content.

Hey you rough ridin' sociopath, go away.  How sad is your life that you are seeking validation on a women's basketball thread on another schools board.

You seriously need to reevaluate the direction of your life.  Stop placing so much of your self worth on what strangers think about sports at a school you once attended.  Seek clinical help, seriously.


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Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: OregonSmock on March 20, 2012, 12:31:17 AM
:jerk:
Women's basketball is useless, the lesbian makes too much money

Ooooohhhhhh so edgy.  Some of you are more tuckish than you're willing to see.

Bonnie Hendrickson at KU currently makes $635,000 per year.  In 2009, she got paid $1.8 million, about $1.3 million of which was a bonus for making it through five years without getting fired for cause.  Poor performance is not considered cause.  She never made the NCAA tournament until this year as an 11 seed.  Here are her Big 12 coaching records:

2005:  5-11
2006:  5-11
2007:  4-12
2008:  4-12
2009:  6-10
2010:  5-11
2011:  6-10
2012:  8-10

Would you believe she got an extension, bonus, and pay raise in 2009?  We are living the high-life over here compared to those suffering through 8 years of Bonnie-Ball and genuinely overpaying for it.   



Bonnie has been plagued with injuries her entire time at KU, and has improved the program on a year-to-year basis since taking over.  The process has been slow, but KU was doing really well this year until our best player (Caroline Davis) went out with an ACL injury.  We play Delaware in the NCAA tournament tomorrow, so I'd say our season has been just as good as K-State's.  I doubt we'll set an NCAA record for lowest point total in an NCAA tournament game.

Deb's a good coach, no doubt.  All she has to do is beat KU and make the post season, and she'll have a lifetime contract.  That's pretty much the standard for every single head coach in K-State's athletic department.  Forget championships.  Just beat KU and don't miss the post season and K-State fans will be content.

I can tell 21-2 is just killing you.



Pulling fictional numbers out of a hat again?  If you can name the 21 wins, I will give you credit.  I still don't think you will ever be able to top 43-3.  It's probably the most lopsided "rivalry" in the country, honestly.  I mean... 43-3.  Are you kidding me?


 :love:  :love:  :love:


Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: TBL on March 20, 2012, 12:34:17 AM
  lesbian makes too much money


Whoa, hang on there.   No reason to start throwing around that kind of bigoted language.   How would you like it if I called you a ginger lover?  Doesn't feel very good, does it MIR?

Glass houses MIR!

Ms Deb used to sit in front of me at BSFS. I thought she had a beard the first time I saw her. It was just pubic hair, though.

Btw. Gingers are better in the sack. Fwiw. 
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Deez Nutz on March 20, 2012, 12:34:56 AM
First of all I can't spin what happened tonight.  WCB is now where MCB was in the 60s and 70s.  The talent pool isn't deep the best programs get the best players and there simply aren't enough good players right now for there to be any real parity.  Again that's no defense for a terrible performance.

As for Deb, she took a program that was a national embarrassment.  Deb and I started at KSU at the same time.  The first time I heard about K-State Women's Basketball was the season before she took over.  The program made Sportscenter, and this was sportscenter in its heyday.  The program was on because a coach named Brian Agler put the program on probation, he was crap canned and Jack Hartman had to take over.  Agler cheated and still didn't win.  Deb made the tournament that first season, while on probation.  She has made the postseason 13 out of 16 seasons.  She has won 63% of her games and two conference championships.  She doesn't and shouldn't get paid based on what some randos think she should make, she like every other college athletics coach, gets based on her industry standard.  Using the industry standard she is giving K-State a hometown discount, she should be praised.

She has accomplished more and makes more money for the school than Brad Hill.  No one watches college baseball, why aren't we subjected to college baseball ridicule and calls for him to make $30,000?  Cliff Rovelto hasn't made 26 cents for KSU, should he volunteer?


I agree that both Brad Hill and Deb Patterson should make a salary that is in line with what they produce (which is jack crap).  They each coach sports that lose (collectively) millions of dollars. I do not give them "credit" for taking less at KSU, but that's mostly because I could give a crap whether their sports even existed.

I only care about the sports that make KSU money.   I dislike all the others, because they do not make KSU money (they do the opposite).

Also, I do not want to date Brad Hill.

Why would you care about other sports losing money when we likely wouldn't otherwise be spending it?  There is a reason we are one of the most profitable athletic departments out there.  And if we just said to hell with women's basketball by either cutting it or suddenly lowering the coaching salary to $30,000 or whatever, then we could probably just kiss the Big 12 goodbye at that point.  The public outcry from all over the country would be deafening.  No AQ conference is going to allow a member to just take a giant dump on women's basketball for no good reason and get away with it. 
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: OregonSmock on March 20, 2012, 12:38:19 AM
26 points...  I think the soil judging team might be able to score 26 points.  Holy crap. 


 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Deez Nutz on March 20, 2012, 12:46:31 AM
:jerk:
Women's basketball is useless, the lesbian makes too much money

Ooooohhhhhh so edgy.  Some of you are more tuckish than you're willing to see.

Bonnie Hendrickson at KU currently makes $635,000 per year.  In 2009, she got paid $1.8 million, about $1.3 million of which was a bonus for making it through five years without getting fired for cause.  Poor performance is not considered cause.  She never made the NCAA tournament until this year as an 11 seed.  Here are her Big 12 coaching records:

2005:  5-11
2006:  5-11
2007:  4-12
2008:  4-12
2009:  6-10
2010:  5-11
2011:  6-10
2012:  8-10

Would you believe she got an extension, bonus, and pay raise in 2009?  We are living the high-life over here compared to those suffering through 8 years of Bonnie-Ball and genuinely overpaying for it.   



Bonnie has been plagued with injuries her entire time at KU, and has improved the program on a year-to-year basis since taking over.  The process has been slow, but KU was doing really well this year until our best player (Caroline Davis) went out with an ACL injury.  We play Delaware in the NCAA tournament tomorrow, so I'd say our season has been just as good as K-State's.  I doubt we'll set an NCAA record for lowest point total in an NCAA tournament game.

Deb's a good coach, no doubt.  All she has to do is beat KU and make the post season, and she'll have a lifetime contract.  That's pretty much the standard for every single head coach in K-State's athletic department.  Forget championships.  Just beat KU and don't miss the post season and K-State fans will be content.

I can tell 21-2 is just killing you.



Pulling fictional numbers out of a hat again?  If you can name the 21 wins, I will give you credit.  I still don't think you will ever be able to top 43-3.  It's probably the most lopsided "rivalry" in the country, honestly.  I mean... 43-3.  Are you kidding me?


 :love:  :love:  :love:

Fictional?  I don't just make numbers up.  Here is KSU's record vs KU in women's basketball since 2002:

2002:  2-0
2003:  2-0
2004:  2-0
2005:  2-0
2006:  3-0
2007:  1-1 (2OT)
2008:  2-0
2009:  2-0
2010:  1-1
2011:  2-0
2012:  2-0
Total:  21-2

You guys were damn lucky to pull out that 2OT game in 2007.  I was there and I was all like  :curse:
Also, consider yourself lucky you only had to play us once in the Big 12 tournament during that time.  Unlike on the men's side when we had to play KU 8 out of 9 years in the tournament from 1993 to 2001, most of which were years we had vastly inferior teams.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: FP TC etc. on March 20, 2012, 01:02:46 AM
 :facepalm:
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 20, 2012, 01:09:21 AM
First of all I can't spin what happened tonight.  WCB is now where MCB was in the 60s and 70s.  The talent pool isn't deep the best programs get the best players and there simply aren't enough good players right now for there to be any real parity.  Again that's no defense for a terrible performance.

As for Deb, she took a program that was a national embarrassment.  Deb and I started at KSU at the same time.  The first time I heard about K-State Women's Basketball was the season before she took over.  The program made Sportscenter, and this was sportscenter in its heyday.  The program was on because a coach named Brian Agler put the program on probation, he was crap canned and Jack Hartman had to take over.  Agler cheated and still didn't win.  Deb made the tournament that first season, while on probation.  She has made the postseason 13 out of 16 seasons.  She has won 63% of her games and two conference championships.  She doesn't and shouldn't get paid based on what some randos think she should make, she like every other college athletics coach, gets based on her industry standard.  Using the industry standard she is giving K-State a hometown discount, she should be praised.

She has accomplished more and makes more money for the school than Brad Hill.  No one watches college baseball, why aren't we subjected to college baseball ridicule and calls for him to make $30,000?  Cliff Rovelto hasn't made 26 cents for KSU, should he volunteer?


I agree that both Brad Hill and Deb Patterson should make a salary that is in line with what they produce (which is jack crap).  They each coach sports that lose (collectively) millions of dollars. I do not give them "credit" for taking less at KSU, but that's mostly because I could give a crap whether their sports even existed.

I only care about the sports that make KSU money.   I dislike all the others, because they do not make KSU money (they do the opposite).

Also, I do not want to date Brad Hill.

So you base your level of like based on revenues and expenses?  Weird.  So you like the job LHC Bill Snyder is doing much more so than that of Frank Martin?  The raw numbers and the percentages indicate that football does a lot more for the school than basketball.  If that's how you feel there isn't much I can say as a defense.  I'm constantly baffled why so many smart people are perfectly content with having such a ridiculously moronic viewpoint about this.  No contracted employee in this country gets paid based on the system you propose and you know it, but you don't care because women's basketball is boring.

You are correct, I do not care about any other sport besides mbb and football, and I do find the others to be boring.

However, I do not think it is a coincidence that the two that I enjoy are the only ones that are profitable.

That's not why I like them, but it does make me feel good to know that they are.

I disagree that other contract jobs aren't paid on the system I propose.  In fact,  that's exactly how I see the world working.  Like, rough ridin' exactly. I'm pretty darn liberal, so forgive me if I muck this conservative speech up, but if you do something that has economic value, then you get paid.  The only argument you have in support of women's coaching salaries  is that they produce some sort of non-economic value...but you'll  never convince me that it's even close to equaling the economic cost we incur to create that non-economic value.  Wecker and Ohlde, notwithstanding.

Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: OregonSmock on March 20, 2012, 01:11:47 AM


I can tell 21-2 is just killing you.



Pulling fictional numbers out of a hat again?  If you can name the 21 wins, I will give you credit.  I still don't think you will ever be able to top 43-3.  It's probably the most lopsided "rivalry" in the country, honestly.  I mean... 43-3.  Are you kidding me?


 :love:  :love:  :love:
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Fictional?  I don't just make numbers up.  Here is KSU's record vs KU in women's basketball since 2002:

2002:  2-0
2003:  2-0
2004:  2-0
2005:  2-0
2006:  3-0
2007:  1-1 (2OT)
2008:  2-0
2009:  2-0
2010:  1-1
2011:  2-0
2012:  2-0
Total:  21-2

You guys were damn lucky to pull out that 2OT game in 2007.  I was there and I was all like  :curse:
Also, consider yourself lucky you only had to play us once in the Big 12 tournament during that time.  Unlike on the men's side when we had to play KU 8 out of 9 years in the tournament from 1993 to 2001, most of which were years we had vastly inferior teams.
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Oh, you were just talking women's basketball?  Thought we were talking all sports for the '12 season.  Congrats on the 21-2 record in women's hoops.


 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: FP TC etc. on March 20, 2012, 01:18:11 AM



I can tell 21-2 is just killing you.




Pulling fictional numbers out of a hat again?  If you can name the 21 wins, I will give you credit.  I still don't think you will ever be able to top 43-3.  It's probably the most lopsided "rivalry" in the country, honestly.  I mean... 43-3.  Are you kidding me?


 :love:  :love:  :love:

Fictional?  I don't just make numbers up.  Here is KSU's record vs KU in women's basketball since 2002:

2002:  2-0
2003:  2-0
2004:  2-0
2005:  2-0
2006:  3-0
2007:  1-1 (2OT)
2008:  2-0
2009:  2-0
2010:  1-1
2011:  2-0
2012:  2-0
Total:  21-2

You guys were damn lucky to pull out that 2OT game in 2007.  I was there and I was all like  :curse:
Also, consider yourself lucky you only had to play us once in the Big 12 tournament during that time.  Unlike on the men's side when we had to play KU 8 out of 9 years in the tournament from 1993 to 2001, most of which were years we had vastly inferior teams.



Oh, you were just talking women's basketball?  Thought we were talking all sports for the '12 season.  Congrats on the 21-2 record in women's hoops.


 :thumbs:

YEAH IN YOUR FACE BEEMS!

Prolly the most lopsided "rivalry" in history!  :ksu:
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: sys on March 20, 2012, 01:22:46 AM
i always thought it was kinda weird that no one talked about the ohlde cattle when the ohlde player played for kstate.  i would have talked that crap non stop if it was me.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 20, 2012, 06:24:13 AM
well this thread went well.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: mcmwcat on March 20, 2012, 07:34:21 AM
lol
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: DQ12 on March 20, 2012, 08:02:31 AM
I was a pretty big Deb hater coming into this thread, but I leave with a newfound respect for her, due to MIR.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: pissclams on March 20, 2012, 08:08:46 AM
i support all k-state teams, and like mir said, deb is a perfect fit to PAK at ksu mhk.

fwiw, agler has excelled in the wnba (coy 2010). 
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: 'taterblast on March 20, 2012, 08:41:13 AM
doesn't stand anymore, but i was genuinely proud of the fact when we had a black head football coach, latino head basketball coach, and lesbian head women's bball coach. but call me crazy.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 20, 2012, 10:14:08 AM
doesn't stand anymore, but i was genuinely proud of the fact when we had a black head football coach, latino head basketball coach, and lesbian head women's bball coach. but call me crazy.

One of those things isn't exactly unique.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Brock Landers on March 20, 2012, 10:19:56 AM
I remembered seeing that they were playing tonight.  I turned on the TV and the score was like 68-20 or something close.  I watched for about 25 seconds.  That was the entirety of the time I spent watching women's NCAA basketball in 2011-2012.


Amazingly, that is 25 more seconds of women's basketball than I watched in 2011-2012.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: 'taterblast on March 20, 2012, 10:19:56 AM
well, yeah. but still.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: ChiComCat on March 20, 2012, 10:29:33 AM
Its not my standard for all KSU sports teams as Beems said, but if our estroballers beat KU and make the NCAAs, I'm ok.  Its really not worth the 500k to me though
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 20, 2012, 10:31:39 AM
:jerk:
Women's basketball is useless, the lesbian makes too much money

Ooooohhhhhh so edgy.  Some of you are more tuckish than you're willing to see.

Bonnie Hendrickson at KU currently makes $635,000 per year.  In 2009, she got paid $1.8 million, about $1.3 million of which was a bonus for making it through five years without getting fired for cause.  Poor performance is not considered cause.  She never made the NCAA tournament until this year as an 11 seed.  Here are her Big 12 coaching records:

2005:  5-11
2006:  5-11
2007:  4-12
2008:  4-12
2009:  6-10
2010:  5-11
2011:  6-10
2012:  8-10

Would you believe she got an extension, bonus, and pay raise in 2009?  We are living the high-life over here compared to those suffering through 8 years of Bonnie-Ball and genuinely overpaying for it.   



Bonnie has been plagued with injuries her entire time at KU, and has improved the program on a year-to-year basis since taking over.  The process has been slow, but KU was doing really well this year until our best player (Caroline Davis) went out with an ACL injury.  We play Delaware in the NCAA tournament tomorrow, so I'd say our season has been just as good as K-State's.  I doubt we'll set an NCAA record for lowest point total in an NCAA tournament game.

Deb's a good coach, no doubt.  All she has to do is beat KU and make the post season, and she'll have a lifetime contract.  That's pretty much the standard for every single head coach in K-State's athletic department.  Forget championships.  Just beat KU and don't miss the post season and K-State fans will be content.

Dude, outside of men's basketball you just described the entire ku athletic department.  Beat KSU/MU, no one will show up, don't say too much stupid stuff, wash, rinse, repeat.

Gill got canned because he couldn't beat us.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 20, 2012, 10:36:04 AM
Pretty funny that after a 3 year winning streak, KU fires Mangino the first year he doesn't beat us. Even made up a bunch of "treating players poorly" rumors about it so they didnt have to admit the real reason they fired him.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 20, 2012, 10:48:25 AM
Pretty funny that after a 3 year winning streak, KU fires Mangino the first year he doesn't beat us. Even made up a bunch of "treating players poorly" rumors about it so they didnt have to admit the real reason they fired him.

Same thing with Gill.

Neither won a conference, both got canned when they lost to KSU.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: 'taterblast on March 20, 2012, 10:51:51 AM
and what was the theme of Weis' first get-'em-going speech to the fans? you got it. ksu.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: star seed 7 on March 20, 2012, 10:53:36 AM
i had a roommate (ya, it was a girl) that played college basketball, so i went to some of her games out of support.  and honestly it's exactly like i said, watching a bunch of grade school boys play bball.  i've watched baylor play for about 10 minutes earlier this year, and no, they don't look like that, but it's still boring as eff.

i don't care what the coaches are paid.  young girls like my townie cousin love it though, so might as well keep it around.

and to call anyone who doesn't like womens basketball a tuck is kind of funny since i'm pretty sure the only people that give 2 shits are old guys that want to see basketball from the 50's again and females under the age of 13.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 20, 2012, 11:02:20 AM
Did any of you guys ever overhear one of those "Our women's team could beat our men's team" conversations during the Kendra Wecker era?  Because I did.  It was too facepalmy to even engage that. 
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 20, 2012, 01:37:20 PM
i had a roommate (ya, it was a girl) that played college basketball, so i went to some of her games out of support.  and honestly it's exactly like i said, watching a bunch of grade school boys play bball.  i've watched baylor play for about 10 minutes earlier this year, and no, they don't look like that, but it's still boring as eff.

i don't care what the coaches are paid.  young girls like my townie cousin love it though, so might as well keep it around.

and to call anyone who doesn't like womens basketball a tuck is kind of funny since i'm pretty sure the only people that give 2 shits are old guys that want to see basketball from the 50's again and females under the age of 13.

I'm assuming you're talking to me.  The point sailed a million miles over your head, I didn't call people who don't like women's basketball tucks.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 20, 2012, 01:43:09 PM
womens basketball  :lol: I'd rather go w/ michigancat to socal and watch some doods play knockout
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: star seed 7 on March 20, 2012, 02:12:21 PM
i had a roommate (ya, it was a girl) that played college basketball, so i went to some of her games out of support.  and honestly it's exactly like i said, watching a bunch of grade school boys play bball.  i've watched baylor play for about 10 minutes earlier this year, and no, they don't look like that, but it's still boring as eff.

i don't care what the coaches are paid.  young girls like my townie cousin love it though, so might as well keep it around.

and to call anyone who doesn't like womens basketball a tuck is kind of funny since i'm pretty sure the only people that give 2 shits are old guys that want to see basketball from the 50's again and females under the age of 13.

I'm assuming you're talking to me.  The point sailed a million miles over your head, I didn't call people who don't like women's basketball tucks.

Fair enough, I may have misunderstood.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: 'taterblast on March 20, 2012, 02:15:44 PM
ooooooooohhhhhhh seven with the tapout.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: 0.42 on March 20, 2012, 02:16:16 PM
womens basketball  :lol: I'd rather go w/ michigancat to socal and watch some doods play knockout

Your avatar/caption. my god :love:
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: OregonSmock on March 20, 2012, 02:22:44 PM
:jerk:
Women's basketball is useless, the lesbian makes too much money

Ooooohhhhhh so edgy.  Some of you are more tuckish than you're willing to see.

Bonnie Hendrickson at KU currently makes $635,000 per year.  In 2009, she got paid $1.8 million, about $1.3 million of which was a bonus for making it through five years without getting fired for cause.  Poor performance is not considered cause.  She never made the NCAA tournament until this year as an 11 seed.  Here are her Big 12 coaching records:

2005:  5-11
2006:  5-11
2007:  4-12
2008:  4-12
2009:  6-10
2010:  5-11
2011:  6-10
2012:  8-10

Would you believe she got an extension, bonus, and pay raise in 2009?  We are living the high-life over here compared to those suffering through 8 years of Bonnie-Ball and genuinely overpaying for it.   



Bonnie has been plagued with injuries her entire time at KU, and has improved the program on a year-to-year basis since taking over.  The process has been slow, but KU was doing really well this year until our best player (Caroline Davis) went out with an ACL injury.  We play Delaware in the NCAA tournament tomorrow, so I'd say our season has been just as good as K-State's.  I doubt we'll set an NCAA record for lowest point total in an NCAA tournament game.

Deb's a good coach, no doubt.  All she has to do is beat KU and make the post season, and she'll have a lifetime contract.  That's pretty much the standard for every single head coach in K-State's athletic department.  Forget championships.  Just beat KU and don't miss the post season and K-State fans will be content.

Dude, outside of men's basketball you just described the entire ku athletic department.  Beat KSU/MU, no one will show up, don't say too much stupid stuff, wash, rinse, repeat.

Gill got canned because he couldn't beat us.


Gill got canned because he couldn't beat anybody.  Outside of that, I agree with you, friend.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Kaiser Soze on March 20, 2012, 03:53:24 PM
best youtube video ever about women's bball...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FGI7R0u3TQ
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: LickNeckey on March 20, 2012, 04:07:43 PM
Who is Deb Batterson?
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: star seed 7 on March 20, 2012, 05:45:25 PM
ooooooooohhhhhhh seven with the tapout.

you don't have to rub it in  :frown:
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: kso_FAN on March 20, 2012, 05:47:09 PM
Did any of you guys ever overhear one of those "Our women's team could beat our men's team" conversations during the Kendra Wecker era?  Because I did.  It was too facepalmy to even engage that.

This was a semi regular topic on GPC at the time, as was the difference in the size of basketballs and it's effects on shooting.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: yosh on March 20, 2012, 05:54:23 PM
5 Pages   :dubious:
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 20, 2012, 06:06:14 PM
5 Pages   :dubious:

Agreed. You should ask for a refund.
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Pete on March 20, 2012, 06:33:07 PM
Did any of you guys ever overhear one of those "Our women's team could beat our men's team" conversations during the Kendra Wecker era?  Because I did.  It was too facepalmy to even engage that.

This was a semi regular topic on GPC at the time, as was the difference in the size of basketballs and it's effects on shooting.


Why do they get a smaller ball and closer three point stripe?

They don't get a lower basket.  Though, I wish they did so they could dunk.


Also, why do baseball coaches wear the same uniform as the coaches?  Are they eligible to play?  They look silly.   What if Snyder wore football pants?   Good grief.
Title: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: puniraptor on March 20, 2012, 07:06:36 PM
Gals have tiny hands
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Deez Nutz on March 20, 2012, 07:18:49 PM
Did any of you guys ever overhear one of those "Our women's team could beat our men's team" conversations during the Kendra Wecker era?  Because I did.  It was too facepalmy to even engage that.

This was a semi regular topic on GPC at the time, as was the difference in the size of basketballs and it's effects on shooting.


Why do they get a smaller ball and closer three point stripe?

They don't get a lower basket.  Though, I wish they did so they could dunk.


Also, why do baseball coaches wear the same uniform as the coaches?  Are they eligible to play?  They look silly.   What if Snyder wore football pants?   Good grief.

They no longer get a closer 3-point line.  It is now the same as the men's 3-point line and went into effect this past season.  If you will notice, our new floor this year only had one 3-point line. 
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: j rake on March 20, 2012, 10:39:08 PM
Kansas to the Sweet 16. Unbelievable.  :runaway:

What is Deb doing? Why does she get housed by UConn? Why is she allergic to the Sweet 16!?

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.tinypic.com%2Fac4xus.png&hash=23e0c5c04185f20a2ae389de2da13f10807869a6)
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: michigancat on March 20, 2012, 10:59:44 PM
deb has been our coach for 16 years? holy crap.
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Post by: j rake on March 20, 2012, 11:03:09 PM
My favorite Deb Story  :lol: ...

In December 2004, miscommunication created staff problems. A piece of film equipment was left in Manhattan when the team played a game at Kansas City. Then a mixup with bags on a trip to Springfield, Mo., meant Patterson and Ethridge didn't have scouting tapes with them when they flew out for the holiday break.

Three of the team's managers -- Ashley Kaiser, Michele Holaday and Michelle Reed -- were blamed. The three made the trip with the team to Philadelphia on Christmas Day 2004, and they were responsible for bringing all the equipment needed for K-State to play two games at St. Joseph's. That evening, according to the three, they were summoned to Patterson's hotel room and told that she had purchased tickets for them to fly home the next day.

The three managers said Patterson yelled at them and showed them documents about how much her program spent on their scholarships. They said they were told they had an hour to think about things. All three decided they would resign.

The managers said they had been put on three-day suspension on another occasion because Patterson had been angry about where ballracks had been positioned at practice. They said they had been in other meetings with Patterson and Ethridge in which the coaches questioned their "heart."

"We worked 70 hours a week for them. And we had no problem doing it; we would have done anything for them or the team," Kaiser said. "But we had been verbally attacked so often, we had decided as a group if it happened again, we couldn't continue.

"Coach P dug me out of the dumps, she gave me an opportunity. She really was a factor in me changing my life around. That night, I thanked her for that. But I also said, 'In trying to be 'selfless' for you, I've lost all sense of myself.' "

The managers say they did tasks such as moving furniture at the home Patterson and Ethridge share, picking up dry cleaning, buying groceries and taking care of the coaches' dogs.

Weiser said managers' duties at K-State are typically defined by the coach they work for, but he acknowledged that some of the chores these managers said they performed "would not be, to me, an acceptable use."

Ethridge said none of those duties were a "requirement" for the managers.

"Was their job dependent on doing those courtesies and errands for the staff? Absolutely not," Ethridge said. "Did they do things? Absolutely. Do players do things for one another? Do coaches do things for each other? Do people do things for each other in the course of a very people-oriented environment? Absolutely. Is it required? No.

"We had relationships with these kids. They did a lot of great things. They also needed to do what our entire staff asked them to do."

The managers flew home the day after Christmas, and K-State administrative assistant Kathy Bettencourt picked them up at Kansas City International airport. The managers said Bettencourt was crying when they arrived. She'd had to purchase the tickets for Patterson a week earlier and had not been able to tell the three. Bettencourt confirmed the managers' account but said she preferred not to comment publicly. She resigned at the end of that season after working eight years for Patterson. Smith and White also resigned after the 2005 season.
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Post by: sys on March 20, 2012, 11:05:30 PM
any thoughts on ohlde cattle, j rake?  did deb tell reporters that angle was "off limits" back in the day?
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Post by: MakeItRain on March 20, 2012, 11:11:14 PM
Congrats to the University of Kansas for their first tournament appearance since 2000 and their first sweet 16 since 1998.
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Post by: j rake on March 20, 2012, 11:13:29 PM
any thoughts on ohlde cattle, j rake?  did deb tell reporters that angle was "off limits" back in the day?

deb is a great person and i have absolutely nothing negative to say about her.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: sys on March 20, 2012, 11:28:52 PM
any thoughts on ohlde cattle, j rake?  did deb tell reporters that angle was "off limits" back in the day?

deb is a great person and i have absolutely nothing negative to say about her.

you're a piece of work.

Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: MeatGeek on March 21, 2012, 12:31:17 AM


Not true dumbass.   Ever rough ridin' heard of soil judging?  Meat judging?  Debate?  Forensics?  Those teams compete at the very highest levels and have won NATIONAL championships.   Their coaches make a fraction of what Deb Patterson makes.

Who is misinformed now, you son of a bitch!


 :emawkid:


Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: MeatGeek on March 21, 2012, 12:35:35 AM
Couldn't we just have like Shalee Lehning coach the team for a lot less money?  I would most definitely go to a lot more games if Shalee was coaching.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: joda on March 21, 2012, 12:49:15 AM
Couldn't we just have like Shalee Lehning coach the team for a lot less money?  I would most definitely go to a lot more games if Shalee was coaching.

I'd buy season tickets if Shalee coached in a bikini
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: OregonSmock on March 21, 2012, 01:22:34 AM
Both the KU men and the KU women are in the Sweet Sixteen.  Another day, another milestone in the life of beems. 


 :driving:
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 21, 2012, 01:32:29 AM
Couldn't we just have like Shalee Lehning coach the team for a lot less money?  I would most definitely go to a lot more games if Shalee was coaching.

I'd buy season tickets if Shalee coached in a bikini

With the money we would save by not payin Deb we could sign a contract with the Manhattan Cosmotoligy College to make sure that Shalee is always done up so she could be KSU 's own Sherri Cole.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: DQ12 on March 21, 2012, 02:44:52 AM
Both the KU men and the KU women are in the Sweet Sixteen.  Another day, another milestone in the life of beems. 


 :driving:
Congratulations, friend.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: massofcatfan on March 21, 2012, 08:21:30 AM
Couldn't we just have like Shalee Lehning coach the team for a lot less money?  I would most definitely go to a lot more games if Shalee was coaching.

I'd buy season tickets if Shalee coached in a bikini

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Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: massofcatfan on March 21, 2012, 08:38:16 AM
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i had no idea. this is a crime.

I'll bet she thinks she deserves it, god bless her heart.

You go, Deb!

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Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
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Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Trim on March 21, 2012, 09:47:46 AM
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Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
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Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: Cire on March 21, 2012, 10:13:27 AM
:jerk:
Women's basketball is useless, the lesbian makes too much money

Ooooohhhhhh so edgy.  Some of you are more tuckish than you're willing to see.

Bonnie Hendrickson at KU currently makes $635,000 per year.  In 2009, she got paid $1.8 million, about $1.3 million of which was a bonus for making it through five years without getting fired for cause.  Poor performance is not considered cause.  She never made the NCAA tournament until this year as an 11 seed.  Here are her Big 12 coaching records:

2005:  5-11
2006:  5-11
2007:  4-12
2008:  4-12
2009:  6-10
2010:  5-11
2011:  6-10
2012:  8-10

Would you believe she got an extension, bonus, and pay raise in 2009?  We are living the high-life over here compared to those suffering through 8 years of Bonnie-Ball and genuinely overpaying for it.   



Bonnie has been plagued with injuries her entire time at KU, and has improved the program on a year-to-year basis since taking over.  The process has been slow, but KU was doing really well this year until our best player (Caroline Davis) went out with an ACL injury.  We play Delaware in the NCAA tournament tomorrow, so I'd say our season has been just as good as K-State's.  I doubt we'll set an NCAA record for lowest point total in an NCAA tournament game.

Deb's a good coach, no doubt.  All she has to do is beat KU and make the post season, and she'll have a lifetime contract.  That's pretty much the standard for every single head coach in K-State's athletic department.  Forget championships.  Just beat KU and don't miss the post season and K-State fans will be content.

Dude, outside of men's basketball you just described the entire ku athletic department.  Beat KSU/MU, no one will show up, don't say too much stupid stuff, wash, rinse, repeat.

Gill got canned because he couldn't beat us.


Gill got canned because he couldn't beat anybody.  Outside of that, I agree with you, friend.

bill self could have sex with bonnie at halftime of a wbb game covered in oil right on top of that gigantic jayhawk and you could explain it beems.  bitb.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: joda on March 21, 2012, 10:59:13 AM
Couldn't we just have like Shalee Lehning coach the team for a lot less money?  I would most definitely go to a lot more games if Shalee was coaching.

I'd buy season tickets if Shalee coached in a bikini

rumblings speedo will provide all uniforms when nike deal ends

http://www.google.com/search?q=beach+volleyball+uniforms&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7GGLJ_enUS319&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=e9VpT-vnHaHy0gHKgd2TCQ&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CGMQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=571  (http://www.google.com/search?q=beach+volleyball+uniforms&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7GGLJ_enUS319&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=e9VpT-vnHaHy0gHKgd2TCQ&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CGMQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=571)

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I'm good with this as long as HC Lehning gets the memo that we're only recruiting attractive players. Don't think anybody wants to see a Brittney Greiner in a speedo.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 21, 2012, 11:04:06 AM
Joda, masso, and meatgeek tucking it in deep
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: massofcatfan on March 21, 2012, 11:51:36 AM
Joda, masso, and meatgeek tucking it in deep

In my defense v. Rainmaker, I didn't make any suggestions involving pre-game tunnel dances.
Title: Re: Deb Patterson just lost a tourney game by 50 points, do you care?
Post by: MeatGeek on March 21, 2012, 09:06:19 PM
Joda, masso, and meatgeek tucking it in deep
Shrugs