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Title: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Pete on August 24, 2011, 08:36:26 PM
He can run, and is bigger than Tannahill, isn't he?

In the off-season, IIRC, some were saying he was a potential NFL draft pick. 
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: _33 on August 24, 2011, 08:53:04 PM
I'm hoping the only snaps braden gets are in the bones in his legs.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Cire on August 24, 2011, 09:28:17 PM
LoL
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: fatty fat fat on August 24, 2011, 09:33:09 PM
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I'm hoping the only snaps braden gets are in the bones in his legs.

I hope this is a joke.....  :jerk:
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: DQ12 on August 24, 2011, 09:45:38 PM
This board gives BW a lot of flack, but the guy is pretty good.  I know it's cliche and stuff, but some of his hits, especially his freshman season, were incredible.

I'm #teambraden and not ashamed to admit it.  Fatty, there's definitely some room if you'd like to hop on board too.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: wetwillie on August 24, 2011, 09:59:15 PM
JFC its not like the poor bastard asked to be born and raised a hayseed.  Until i have evidence to confirm he plays up his status as hero amongst the tucks he is fine in my books.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: The Manhatter on August 24, 2011, 10:13:14 PM
Kiper has him currently as the #2 fullback for his draft class.  Nfldraftscout has him listed #3.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=FB&draftyear=2013&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=FB&draftyear=2013&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC)

I was chatting with a guy in the Chiefs organization about a month ago...said Braden's a definite pro.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: jtksu on August 24, 2011, 10:28:42 PM
It's funny (not haha, queer) how everyone is all "I just want more talented players" then bitches because one of our better players happens to be white and from little Kansas town.  I don't give a eff where the kid is from, the dude is good.  crap, Nebraska used to rough ridin' ass rape us with big white farm boy FBs.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on August 24, 2011, 10:29:11 PM
Legit. Is he considered a hometown hero yet?  :cheers:
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: _33 on August 24, 2011, 10:32:23 PM
Kiper has him currently as the #2 fullback for his draft class.  Nfldraftscout has him listed #3.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=FB&draftyear=2013&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=FB&draftyear=2013&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC)

I was chatting with a guy in the Chiefs organization about a month ago...said Braden's a definite pro.

LOL. Only one true fullback was taken in last years draft. In addition, half of the NFL's top 10 fullbacks (Sporting News) in 2010 were converted from other positions and that percentage goes up the further you go down the list. Assuming that the #3 ranked fullback coming out of college is a "definite pro" is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on August 24, 2011, 10:37:37 PM
Kiper has him currently as the #2 fullback for his draft class.  Nfldraftscout has him listed #3.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=FB&draftyear=2013&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=FB&draftyear=2013&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC)

I was chatting with a guy in the Chiefs organization about a month ago...said Braden's a definite pro.

LOL. Only one true fullback was taken in last years draft. In addition, half of the NFL's top 10 fullbacks (Sporting News) in 2010 were converted from other positions and that percentage goes up the further you go down the list. Assuming that the #3 ranked fullback coming out of college is a "definite pro" is ridiculous.

Well, one day when we are watching him play in the Super Bowl, just like we watched Jordy Nelson, you will eat your words.  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: The Manhatter on August 24, 2011, 10:44:30 PM
Kiper has him currently as the #2 fullback for his draft class.  Nfldraftscout has him listed #3.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=FB&draftyear=2013&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=FB&draftyear=2013&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC)

I was chatting with a guy in the Chiefs organization about a month ago...said Braden's a definite pro.

LOL. Only one true fullback was taken in last years draft. In addition, half of the NFL's top 10 fullbacks (Sporting News) in 2010 were converted from other positions and that percentage goes up the further you go down the list. Assuming that the #3 ranked fullback coming out of college is a "definite pro" is ridiculous.

if he isn't drafted he will make it on a roster.  Did Braden steal your woman or something.  I guess I don't understand your bone with this guy. 
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: _33 on August 24, 2011, 10:52:46 PM
Kiper has him currently as the #2 fullback for his draft class.  Nfldraftscout has him listed #3.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=FB&draftyear=2013&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=FB&draftyear=2013&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC)

I was chatting with a guy in the Chiefs organization about a month ago...said Braden's a definite pro.

LOL. Only one true fullback was taken in last years draft. In addition, half of the NFL's top 10 fullbacks (Sporting News) in 2010 were converted from other positions and that percentage goes up the further you go down the list. Assuming that the #3 ranked fullback coming out of college is a "definite pro" is ridiculous.

if he isn't drafted he will make it on a roster.  Did Braden steal your woman or something.  I guess I don't understand your bone with this guy. 

He sucks and everyone thinks he is good. We'd be much better off putting Brown and Pease or any other combination of two runners in the backfield. I'd say maybe use Braden on the goal line or in short yardage situations but he usually either gets in the way or runs through the hole and into the endzone without touching anyone.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: jtksu on August 24, 2011, 10:54:36 PM
Wow, _33 knows more about college football than Mel Kiper and a dude that actually works for an NFL team.  Man, what a douchebag _33 is.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: jtksu on August 24, 2011, 10:59:49 PM
Also, 5 FBs were taken in the 2011 draft, and I would imagine several more signed FA contracts.  Ks, Ps, and LSs also don't get drafted much, yet every team carries them on the roster.  And the fact that so many NFL FBs are converted from a different position actually strenghtens Braden's case as a future pro.  The fact is, there aren't many true FBs available so being one of the best of those available makes you more valuable, not less.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: _33 on August 24, 2011, 11:02:40 PM
And the fact that so many NFL FBs are converted from a different position actually strenghtens Braden's case as a future pro.  The fact is, there aren't many true FBs available so being one of the best of those available makes you more valuable, not less.

No, because they are usually converted from TE's which means they have skills such as catching and running with the ball. NFL teams like their fullbacks to be able to do things other than smash their heads into people.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: DQ12 on August 24, 2011, 11:04:08 PM
Kiper has him currently as the #2 fullback for his draft class.  Nfldraftscout has him listed #3.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=FB&draftyear=2013&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=FB&draftyear=2013&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC)

I was chatting with a guy in the Chiefs organization about a month ago...said Braden's a definite pro.

LOL. Only one true fullback was taken in last years draft. In addition, half of the NFL's top 10 fullbacks (Sporting News) in 2010 were converted from other positions and that percentage goes up the further you go down the list. Assuming that the #3 ranked fullback coming out of college is a "definite pro" is ridiculous.

if he isn't drafted he will make it on a roster.  Did Braden steal your woman or something.  I guess I don't understand your bone with this guy. 

He sucks and everyone thinks he is good. We'd be much better off putting Brown and Pease or any other combination of two runners in the backfield. I'd say maybe use Braden on the goal line or in short yardage situations but he usually either gets in the way or runs through the hole and into the endzone without touching anyone.
So then your beef is with the fullback position and not BW, in particular?  Did you have this much disdain for Travis Wilson, Goolsby and Mann?
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: _33 on August 24, 2011, 11:13:08 PM
Kiper has him currently as the #2 fullback for his draft class.  Nfldraftscout has him listed #3.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=FB&draftyear=2013&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=FB&draftyear=2013&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC)

I was chatting with a guy in the Chiefs organization about a month ago...said Braden's a definite pro.

LOL. Only one true fullback was taken in last years draft. In addition, half of the NFL's top 10 fullbacks (Sporting News) in 2010 were converted from other positions and that percentage goes up the further you go down the list. Assuming that the #3 ranked fullback coming out of college is a "definite pro" is ridiculous.

if he isn't drafted he will make it on a roster.  Did Braden steal your woman or something.  I guess I don't understand your bone with this guy. 

He sucks and everyone thinks he is good. We'd be much better off putting Brown and Pease or any other combination of two runners in the backfield. I'd say maybe use Braden on the goal line or in short yardage situations but he usually either gets in the way or runs through the hole and into the endzone without touching anyone.
So then your beef is with the fullback position and not BW, in particular?  Did you have this much disdain for Travis Wilson, Goolsby and Mann?

They were all much better than Braden but got less credit. Braden averaged 1.1 ypc for 8 yards last season.   :lol:

But I know, I know he "blew some people up" or whatever.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Trim on August 24, 2011, 11:14:19 PM
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ksufelis

On the depth chart
Post #2104
Kansas City (Brookside), MO

Braden Wilson


As with most of you, I'm a huge fan of Braden Wilson, the toughest man on the planet. I got bored tonight, so I recycled some old favorites about Chuck Norris, and present these for your consideration:


- Braden Wilson is 1/8th Cherokee. This has nothing to do with ancestry, the man ate a f*cking Indian.

- In fine print on the last page of the Guinness Book of World Records it notes that all world records are held by Braden Wilson, and those listed in the book are simply the closest anyone else has ever gotten.

- The chief export of Braden Wilson is pain. He imports nothing.

- Braden Wilson is currently suing NBC, claiming Law and Order are trademarked names for his left and right legs.

- The Great Wall of China was originally created to keep Braden Wilson out. It failed misserably.

- Crop circles are Braden Wilson's way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*ck down.

- Braden Wilson once ate an entire ream of rice paper and shat out origami swans and Mister Miyagi from Karate Kid.

- Braden Wilson is ten feet tall, weighs two-tons, breathes fire, and could eat a hammer and take a shotgun blast standing.

- Braden Wilson is a man of few words. Braden Wilson is not a man of few full body blows to linebackers.

- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse actually live in Braden Wilson's nutsack.

- Braden Wilson put humpty dumpty back together again, only to pound him into scrambled eggs. Later Braden dined on those eggs with all the king's horses and all the king's men. The king himself could not attend for unspecified reasons. Coincidentally, the autopsoy revealed the cause of death to be a deadly lead block. There is only one King.

- When Braden Wilson played golf for money, he marked down a hole in 0 every time, a pro at the golf club, said to Braden: "excuse me sir, but you cant score zero on a hole". Braden Wilson turned towards the man and said, im Braden Wilson, the man then proceeded to pour gas over his body and set himself on fire because that would be less painful than getting blocked by Braden Wilson.

- Braden Wilson made Ellen Degeneres straight.

- Braden Wilson kicked Neo out of Zion , now Neo is "The Two"

- Braden Wilson's iPod came with a real charger instead of just a USB cord

- Braden Wilson knows where Carmen Sandiego is.

- Rudolph has a red nose because he got lippy and Braden Wilson made him pay

- China was once bordering the United States, until Braden Wilson pounded it all the way through the Earth.

- Braden Wilson is what Willis was talking about

- If you have five dollars and Braden Wilson has five dollars, Braden Wilson has more money than you.

- Braden Wilson sent Jesus a birthday card on December 25th and it wasn't Jesus’ birthday. Jesus was to scared to correct Braden Wilson and to this day December 25th is known as Jesus' birthday.

- When Braden Wilson had surgery, the anesthesia was applied to the doctors.

- Braden Wilson once broke the land speed record on a bicycle that was missing its chain and the back tire.

- Multiple people have died from Braden Wilson giving them the finger.

- Braden Wilson once tried to wear glasses. The result was him seeing around the world to the point where he was looking at the back of his own head.

- Pee Wee Herman got arrested for masturbating in public. The same day, Braden Wilson got an award for masturbating in public.

- Once a grizzly bear threatened to eat Braden Wilson. Braden showed the bear his fist and the bear proceeded to eat himself, because it would be the less painful way to die.

- If Braden Wilson is late, time better slow the f*ck down

- Braden Wilson sleeps with a night light. Not because Braden Wilson is afraid of the dark, but the dark is afraid of Braden Wilson

- Braden Wilson can touch MC Hammer. And MC Hammer will die

- Braden Wilson ordered a Big Mac at Burger King, and got one.

- Braden Wilson always has sex on the first date. Always.

- A Handicap parking sign does not signify that this spot is for handicapped people. It is actually in fact a warning, that the spot belongs to Braden Wilson and that you will be handicapped if you park there.

- Braden Wilson frequently donates blood to the Red Cross. Just never his own.

- There is no such thing as tornados. Braden Wilson just hates trailer parks.

- Braden Wilson does not procreate, he breeds

- When asked what type of vehicle he drives, Braden Wilson responded slyly with "Don't you mean what kind of vehicle drives me?"

- Braden Wilson' evil twin brother, Richard Simmons, once approached Braden with the hope of reconciliation, but at the sight of Richard's curly, well kept hair, Braden Wilson became so enraged that he turned green with hate and ripped Richard Simmons arms and legs off. This action was the origin of the Marvel Comic badass, The Incredible Hulk.

- Braden Wilson doesn't worry about changing his clock twice a year for daylight savings time. The sun rises and sets when Braden tells it to.

- Braden Wilson only masturbates to pictures of Braden Wilson.

- If paper beats rock, rock beats scissors, and scissors beats paper, what beats all 3 at the same time? Answer: Braden Wilson.

- When his blocking skill fails to resolve a situation, Braden Wilson plays dead. When playing dead doesn’t work, he plays zombie.

- Although it is not common knowledge, there are actually three sides to the Force: the light side, the dark side, and Braden Wilson.

- God offered Braden Wilson the gift to fly, which he swiftly declined for super strength blocking ability.

- When Braden Wilson was denied a Bacon McMuffin at McDonalds because it was 10:35, he hit the store so hard it became a KFC.

- Braden Wilson drinks napalm to quell his heartburn.

- A duck’s quack does not echo. Braden Wilson is solely responsible for this phenomenon. When asked why he will simply stare at you, grimly.

- Braden Wilson doesn’t believe in Germany.

- If you want a list of Braden Wilson’s enemies, just check the extinct species list.

- Braden Wilson has never blinked in his entire life. Never.

- Braden Wilson doesn’t need to swallow when eating food.

- If Superman and The Flash were to race to the edge of space you know who would win? Braden Wilson.

- Braden Wilson eats transformer toys in vehicle mode and poos them out transformed into a robot.

- Ironically, Braden Wilson’s hidden talent is invisibility.

- Braden Wilson owns the greatest poker face of all-time. It helped him win the 2010 world series of poker despite him holding just a joker, a 2 of clubs, a 7 of spades, and a green number 4 from Uno and a monopoly ‘get out of jail free’ card.

- Braden Wilson invented water.

- Braden Wilson went looking for a bar but couldn’t find one. He walked to a vacant lot and sat there. Sure enough within an hour an a half someone constructed a bar around him. He then ordered a shot, drank it, and then burned the place to the ground. Braden Wilson yelled over the roar of the flames, “always leave things the way you found em!”

- One time while sparring with Wolverine, Braden Wilson accidentally lost his left testicle. You might be familiar with it to this very day by its technical term: Jupiter.

- Braden Wilson is Luke Skywalker’s real father.

- Braden Wilson does not use spell check. If he happens to misspell a word, Oxford will simply change the actual spelling of it.

- Braden Wilson isn’t lactose intolerant. He just doesn’t put up with lactose’s hullabaloo.

- Braden Wilson doesn’t eat. Rather he kicks ass until he’s full.

- Scientists in Washington have recently conceded that, if there were a nuclear war, all that would remain are cockroaches and Braden Wilson.

- Braden Wilson once threated to sue Burger King because they refused to make it his way. When asked what “his way” detailed, he replied: “with barbed wire and nails, of course”. He then killed the reporter for even asking.

- Braden Wilson never “gets laid”, rather: “laid gets Bradened”.

- Helen Keller’s favorite color is Braden Wilson

- Braden Wilson once walked down the street with a massive erection. There were no survivors.

- Braden Wilson doesnt have AIDS but he gives it to people anyway.

- When you open a can of whoop-ass, Braden Wilson jumps out.

- Braden Wilson can piss into an F-5 tornado.

- There are no disabled people. Only people who have met Braden Wilson.

- Braden Wilson won 'Jumanji' without ever saying the word. He simply beat the living hullabaloo out of everything that was thrown at him, and the game forfeited.

- Braden Wilson once bet NASA he could survive re-entry without a spacesuit. On July 19th, 2009, a naked Braden Wilson re-entered the earth's atmosphere, streaking over 14 states and reaching a temperature of 3000 degrees. An embarrassed NASA publicly claimed it was a meteor, and still owes him a beer.

- Braden Wilson got a perfect score on his SAT's, simply by writing Braden Wilson for every answer.

- Aliens do exist. They're just waiting for Braden Wilson to die before they attack.

- Braden Wilson once ate three 72 oz. steaks in one hour. He spent the first 45 minutes having sex with his waitress.

- Braden Wilson doesn't see dead people. He makes people dead.

- The boogie man check under his bed for Braden Wilson


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Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: The Manhatter on August 24, 2011, 11:15:20 PM
And the fact that so many NFL FBs are converted from a different position actually strenghtens Braden's case as a future pro.  The fact is, there aren't many true FBs available so being one of the best of those available makes you more valuable, not less.

No, because they are usually converted from TE's which means they have skills such as catching and running with the ball. NFL teams like their fullbacks to be able to do things other than smash their heads into people.

No, most are not converted TEs.  Most fullbacks see the football in the NFL once every lunar eclipse.  They are not drafted or on rosters for their abilities as rushers or receivers...if they can do that it's a bonus.  They're battering rams, period.  the best right now is Vonta Leach.  Most are like him...short, squatty dudes.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: The Manhatter on August 24, 2011, 11:17:45 PM
Kiper has him currently as the #2 fullback for his draft class.  Nfldraftscout has him listed #3.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=FB&draftyear=2013&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=FB&draftyear=2013&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC)

I was chatting with a guy in the Chiefs organization about a month ago...said Braden's a definite pro.

LOL. Only one true fullback was taken in last years draft. In addition, half of the NFL's top 10 fullbacks (Sporting News) in 2010 were converted from other positions and that percentage goes up the further you go down the list. Assuming that the #3 ranked fullback coming out of college is a "definite pro" is ridiculous.

if he isn't drafted he will make it on a roster.  Did Braden steal your woman or something.  I guess I don't understand your bone with this guy. 

He sucks and everyone thinks he is good. We'd be much better off putting Brown and Pease or any other combination of two runners in the backfield. I'd say maybe use Braden on the goal line or in short yardage situations but he usually either gets in the way or runs through the hole and into the endzone without touching anyone.
So then your beef is with the fullback position and not BW, in particular?  Did you have this much disdain for Travis Wilson, Goolsby and Mann?

They were all much better than Braden but got less credit. Braden averaged 1.1 ypc for 8 yards last season.   :lol:

But I know, I know he "blew some people up" or whatever.  :rolleyes:

hilarious.  Goolsby missed a ton of blocks.  He was big and fat and liked to dance so everybody thought he was good.  Travis Wilson isn't the athlete Braden is...Vic Mann had better running skills but that is about it.  Are you seriously breaking out the rushing stats for Braden?  That is relevant.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: AbeFroman on August 24, 2011, 11:18:04 PM
he blocks well and does his job (which isn't to carry the ball)

Yeah hayseeds love him, but like someone else said that's not his fault. He is solid and should be out there semi regularly
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: _33 on August 24, 2011, 11:19:04 PM
And the fact that so many NFL FBs are converted from a different position actually strenghtens Braden's case as a future pro.  The fact is, there aren't many true FBs available so being one of the best of those available makes you more valuable, not less.

No, because they are usually converted from TE's which means they have skills such as catching and running with the ball. NFL teams like their fullbacks to be able to do things other than smash their heads into people.

No, most are not converted TEs.  Most fullbacks see the football in the NFL once every lunar eclipse.  They are not drafted or on rosters for their abilities as rushers or receivers...if they can do that it's a bonus.  They're battering rams, period.  the best right now is Vonta Leach.  Most are like him...short, squatty dudes.

So not at all like 6'3" Braden Wilson.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: The Manhatter on August 24, 2011, 11:21:39 PM
And the fact that so many NFL FBs are converted from a different position actually strenghtens Braden's case as a future pro.  The fact is, there aren't many true FBs available so being one of the best of those available makes you more valuable, not less.

No, because they are usually converted from TE's which means they have skills such as catching and running with the ball. NFL teams like their fullbacks to be able to do things other than smash their heads into people.

No, most are not converted TEs.  Most fullbacks see the football in the NFL once every lunar eclipse.  They are not drafted or on rosters for their abilities as rushers or receivers...if they can do that it's a bonus.  They're battering rams, period.  the best right now is Vonta Leach.  Most are like him...short, squatty dudes.

So not at all like 6'3" Braden Wilson.

he's 6'2.5 and about 260lbs at the moment.  He'll probably tack on another 10-15 for the league.  I'm guessing 6-2.5 270-275 isn't squatty?
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: DQ12 on August 24, 2011, 11:22:28 PM
Kiper has him currently as the #2 fullback for his draft class.  Nfldraftscout has him listed #3.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=FB&draftyear=2013&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=FB&draftyear=2013&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC)

I was chatting with a guy in the Chiefs organization about a month ago...said Braden's a definite pro.

LOL. Only one true fullback was taken in last years draft. In addition, half of the NFL's top 10 fullbacks (Sporting News) in 2010 were converted from other positions and that percentage goes up the further you go down the list. Assuming that the #3 ranked fullback coming out of college is a "definite pro" is ridiculous.

if he isn't drafted he will make it on a roster.  Did Braden steal your woman or something.  I guess I don't understand your bone with this guy. 

He sucks and everyone thinks he is good. We'd be much better off putting Brown and Pease or any other combination of two runners in the backfield. I'd say maybe use Braden on the goal line or in short yardage situations but he usually either gets in the way or runs through the hole and into the endzone without touching anyone.
So then your beef is with the fullback position and not BW, in particular?  Did you have this much disdain for Travis Wilson, Goolsby and Mann?

They were all much better than Braden but got less credit. Braden averaged 1.1 ypc for 8 yards last season.   :lol:

But I know, I know he "blew some people up" or whatever.  :rolleyes:
How do you quantify a "much better fullback"?  If you're using ypc, then you're comparing apples to oranges, because in those days, we ran the triple option about every fifth play.

I agree that some of the tards go a little too gaga over BW (see trim's post), but the guy is a good fullback and deserves to be credited as such.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: jtksu on August 24, 2011, 11:23:20 PM
When you see a 6'3" dude in an NFL huddle, he  will look short compared to the OL guys and the QB.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: The Manhatter on August 24, 2011, 11:23:32 PM
ranking Snyder's fullbacks

1) Cartwright
2) B. Wilson
3) T. Wilson
4) Goolsby
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: _33 on August 24, 2011, 11:31:22 PM
Why do people so passionately defend Braden Wilson every time I post about him? I think he sucks. Get over it.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: The Manhatter on August 24, 2011, 11:34:19 PM
Why do people so passionately defend Braden Wilson every time I post about him? I think he sucks. Get over it.

we consider your opinion far more knowledgable and credible than Snyder or NFL scouting management's opinion thus we consider you a worthy adversary.  You're entitled to your thoughts.  I don't think he's superman but he's damn good at what is required of him.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: _33 on August 24, 2011, 11:36:24 PM
Why do people so passionately defend Braden Wilson every time I post about him? I think he sucks. Get over it.

we consider your opinion far more knowledgable and credible than Snyder or NFL scouting management's opinion thus we consider you a worthy adversary.  You're entitled to your thoughts.  I don't think he's superman but he's damn good at what is required of him.

Do you think he'll be the same this season after his injury?
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: nicname on August 24, 2011, 11:40:35 PM
_33 just make vids and don't say stupid crap, you're making yourself look like a fool
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: _33 on August 24, 2011, 11:41:26 PM
_33 just make vids and don't say stupid crap, you're making yourself look like a fool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n2qVShB5Yw
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: nicname on August 24, 2011, 11:43:54 PM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: fatty fat fat on August 24, 2011, 11:46:24 PM
"KSU trails OU 24-21 late in the fourth quarter, but is threatening with a 2nd and goal at the one yard line"

"What on earth is the crowd chanting...."

slightly audible..."Brado! brado!"

"I believe they are calling for "the rock" to go to their kansas born and bred FB, braden "brado" wilson"

"Yeah, coach stoops was chatting with us earlier how he fears his ability near the goaline"

"There's the handoff....brado gets it...and trucks austin box for a kansas stat touchdown! The cats lead here in MHK!" go cats!"

"Boy...everyone in the crowd just seems so damned happy."

"Yes, except for that one fellow....hmmm..."

 :ksu:
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on August 24, 2011, 11:46:31 PM
Damn, I would drown myself in cat piss if I were as big of a pussy as you.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: hemmy on August 25, 2011, 07:35:12 AM
"KSU trails OU 24-21 late in the fourth quarter, but is threatening with a 2nd and goal at the one yard line"

"What on earth is the crowd chanting...."

slightly audible..."Brado! brado!"

"I believe they are calling for "the rock" to go to their kansas born and bred FB, braden "brado" wilson"

"Yeah, coach stoops was chatting with us earlier how he fears his ability near the goaline"

"There's the handoff....brado gets it...and trucks austin box for a kansas stat touchdown! The cats lead here in MHK!" go cats!"

"Boy...everyone in the crowd just seems so damned happy."

"Yes, except for that one fellow....hmmm..."

 :ksu:

lol
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: jc_jax on August 25, 2011, 07:44:14 AM
As a young poster, I accidentally made a pro-Braden Wilson post and was decently PI'ed for it.  I triple check all my posts now.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Trim on August 25, 2011, 07:45:52 AM
As a young poster, I accidentally made a pro-Braden Wilson post and was decently PI'ed for it.  I triple check all my posts now.

:thumbs:
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: KITNfury on August 25, 2011, 07:51:42 AM
If we're gonna have a FB, and we are, we may as well have a good one and I guess he is*.







*don't usually watch the FB, usually just watch the ball and yell "GGOOOOO!!!"
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: kso_FAN on August 25, 2011, 07:58:58 AM
To answer Pete's question, in Snyder's system he really plays both. Much of the time he is more of a traditional FB in I and offset I sets. But we do other things with Jim, similar to how the NFL uses an HB.

And yes, Wilson is a very good football player. We'll see on the NFL, be he's a high quality college fullback.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: _33 on August 25, 2011, 08:10:01 AM
As a young poster, I accidentally made a pro-Braden Wilson post and was decently PI'ed for it.  I triple check all my posts now.

Those were the days. You're free to make all the pro-Braden posts you want now that the Wilsonites have taken over the board.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: kitten_mittons on August 25, 2011, 08:27:14 AM
Braden Wilson.  Does he hurt our team?  No.
Do we have a better fullback on roster?  I doubt it.
Am I done caring about Braden Wilson?  Yes.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 25, 2011, 08:33:35 AM

They were all much better than Braden but got less credit. Braden averaged 1.1 ypc for 8 yards last season.   :lol:


I'm willing to bet that at least 6 of his 7 carries were in short yardage situations or at the goal line. You should evaluate a FB just like you would an OL. It's hard to do unless you watch the game and focus on him every play. I'm not going to do that, but plenty of tucks do, and they love him.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on August 25, 2011, 08:37:05 AM
how will losing corey adams affect the wild wild cats this year? we should probably chalk up another loss due to losing the legendary long snapper.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 25, 2011, 08:41:04 AM
how will losing corey adams affect the wild wild cats this year? we should probably chalk up another loss due to losing the legendary long snapper.

It will be very LOL-worthy if we lose a game because we snap the ball over the punter's head.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 25, 2011, 09:26:13 AM

It's funny (not haha, queer) how . . . Nebraska used to rough ridin' ass rape us.


 :ump:
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: OK_Cat on August 25, 2011, 09:55:37 AM
Why do people so passionately defend Braden Wilson every time I post about him? I think he sucks. Get over it.

_33, how dare you offer up an opinion that doesn't go along with what old balls and mel kiper (who?) think.

jfc, this place is tarding up quickly this offseason.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: username on August 25, 2011, 10:08:24 AM
man, you guys are so edgy
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: DQ12 on August 25, 2011, 10:08:48 AM
Why do people so passionately defend Braden Wilson every time I post about him? I think he sucks. Get over it.

_33, how dare you offer up an opinion that doesn't go along with what old balls and mel kiper (who?) think.

jfc, this place is tarding up quickly this offseason.
OK, people who hate BW are the same kind of people who hate Gaga.  

Chew on that for a while.

I could be completely off base here.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Trim on August 25, 2011, 10:13:03 AM
OK, people who hate BW are the same kind of people who hate Gaga. 

Chew on that for a while.

:runaway:
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: OK_Cat on August 25, 2011, 10:13:10 AM
Why do people so passionately defend Braden Wilson every time I post about him? I think he sucks. Get over it.

_33, how dare you offer up an opinion that doesn't go along with what old balls and mel kiper (who?) think.

jfc, this place is tarding up quickly this offseason.
OK, people who hate BW are the same kind of people who hate Gaga.  

Chew on that for a while.

I could be completely off base here.

way off base, dlew, way off base. 

dlew is over here.
























































here's the base.





ya know what i mean?
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: DQ12 on August 25, 2011, 10:16:40 AM
You're probably right.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: The Manhatter on August 25, 2011, 10:52:01 AM
Why do people so passionately defend Braden Wilson every time I post about him? I think he sucks. Get over it.

_33, how dare you offer up an opinion that doesn't go along with what old balls and mel kiper (who?) think.

jfc, this place is tarding up quickly this offseason.

just what i was thinking.  lose cool pts if you actually post that a small-town white kid on the squad is good.  god forbid we might have a good player without dreads, tats and a connection to the inner-city.  sometimes in the midst of a never ending quest to swim against the tide or say the opposite of what most fans are saying you deny realistic thought.  I do give credibility to what Kiper says or who he lists not because of his own personal beliefs but because of where he gathers his information for said projections or rankings.  Speaking for myself, I watch plenty of our games in intricate detail...I rarely follow the ball and watch the games over.  The kid is good.  He doesn't truck defenders on every single play...no one does, but he sure as hell makes a lot of damn good blocks.  Yep, he misses or whiffs on some, too.  They all do.

keep on keepin' on 33 and OK.  do your thang.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: OK_Cat on August 25, 2011, 10:56:58 AM
Why do people so passionately defend Braden Wilson every time I post about him? I think he sucks. Get over it.

_33, how dare you offer up an opinion that doesn't go along with what old balls and mel kiper (who?) think.

jfc, this place is tarding up quickly this offseason.

just what i was thinking.  lose cool pts if you actually post that a small-town white kid on the squad is good.  god forbid we might have a good player without dreads, tats and a connection to the inner-city.  sometimes in the midst of a never ending quest to swim against the tide or say the opposite of what most fans are saying you deny realistic thought.  I do give credibility to what Kiper says or who he lists not because of his own personal beliefs but because of where he gathers his information for said projections or rankings.  Speaking for myself, I watch plenty of our games in intricate detail...I rarely follow the ball and watch the games over.  The kid is good.  He doesn't truck defenders on every single play...no one does, but he sure as hell makes a lot of damn good blocks.  Yep, he misses or whiffs on some, too.  They all do.

keep on keepin' on 33 and OK.  do your thang.

i never said that i liked or disliked the guy.  just think that the "you think you know more than snyder?!?!??" crowd is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: The Manhatter on August 25, 2011, 11:10:43 AM
Why do people so passionately defend Braden Wilson every time I post about him? I think he sucks. Get over it.

_33, how dare you offer up an opinion that doesn't go along with what old balls and mel kiper (who?) think.

jfc, this place is tarding up quickly this offseason.

just what i was thinking.  lose cool pts if you actually post that a small-town white kid on the squad is good.  god forbid we might have a good player without dreads, tats and a connection to the inner-city.  sometimes in the midst of a never ending quest to swim against the tide or say the opposite of what most fans are saying you deny realistic thought.  I do give credibility to what Kiper says or who he lists not because of his own personal beliefs but because of where he gathers his information for said projections or rankings.  Speaking for myself, I watch plenty of our games in intricate detail...I rarely follow the ball and watch the games over.  The kid is good.  He doesn't truck defenders on every single play...no one does, but he sure as hell makes a lot of damn good blocks.  Yep, he misses or whiffs on some, too.  They all do.

keep on keepin' on 33 and OK.  do your thang.

i never said that i liked or disliked the guy.  just think that the "you think you know more than snyder?!?!??" crowd is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

that statement, when used, is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) regarding some of Snyder's players...sure.  But not in this case.  good football teams need guys like this one.  he's a leader.  he works his ass off.  he's unselfish.  and he produces in terms of his assignments.  guaranteed DT considers this dude his ace in the hole..probably calls him bff when he texts him. 
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: kso_FAN on August 25, 2011, 11:45:29 AM
i never said that i liked or disliked the guy.  just think that the "you think you know more than snyder?!?!??" crowd is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Nobody, at least in this thread, used that argument and I would hope no one on this site would. Granted, someone mentioned Kiper, and that was a bit silly. However, its just a silly to hate a player and think he sucks for the reasons Manhatter mentioned. And if you do think he sucks, at least give some relavent reasons that pertain to his position/role on the team and how that fits into the system we use.

For example, I get that _33 doesn't like him b/c Wilson's stats show he isn't a threat. However, in our system IMHO Wilson is used a lot to make other players a threat, either getting a key block in the running game or in pass protection. If Snyder used a system where we needed just one back or two athletic backs (which is what _33 advocated) then his case would be sound, especially if Snyder's offensive system showed a lack of results. However, the system, utilizing a traditional FB with some newer HB twists, has been the strength of this team in Snyder's 2nd tenure. It wouldn't be as strong if Snyder tried to fit the wrong parts (another athlete at RB with average or worse blocking skills) into the power running game, which is one of the key aspects of his offense.

Now if you want to look at bad parts in a scheme look at last year's defense. Unathletic LBs and undersized, non-playmakers in a 4-2-5. A defense predicated by having athletes and playmakers, especially in your front 7. Granted, the parts we had were probably not going to help any defensive scheme, but IMHO it was even worse in that scheme. Point is, the popular goEMAW arguments against Wilson don't fit the same logic.

Again, JMHO.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Trim on August 25, 2011, 11:48:25 AM
I like when _FAN destroys someone with logic and facts and stuff, and just to be sure he's not coming off as aggressive or talking down to people, adds the "JMHO".
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: steve dave on August 25, 2011, 11:49:10 AM
For example, I get that _33 doesn't like him b/c Wilson's stats show he isn't a threat.

this isn't why _33 doesn't like him fwiw
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: OK_Cat on August 25, 2011, 11:49:25 AM
i never said that i liked or disliked the guy.  just think that the "you think you know more than snyder?!?!??" crowd is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Nobody, at least in this thread, used that argument and I would hope no one on this site would.


Why do people so passionately defend Braden Wilson every time I post about him? I think he sucks. Get over it.

we consider your opinion far more knowledgable and credible than Snyder or NFL scouting management's opinion thus we consider you a worthy adversary.  You're entitled to your thoughts.  I don't think he's superman but he's damn good at what is required of him.


Wow, _33 knows more about college football than Mel Kiper and a dude that actually works for an NFL team.  Man, what a douchebag _33 is.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: kso_FAN on August 25, 2011, 11:51:25 AM
i never said that i liked or disliked the guy.  just think that the "you think you know more than snyder?!?!??" crowd is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Nobody, at least in this thread, used that argument and I would hope no one on this site would.


Why do people so passionately defend Braden Wilson every time I post about him? I think he sucks. Get over it.

we consider your opinion far more knowledgable and credible than Snyder or NFL scouting management's opinion thus we consider you a worthy adversary.  You're entitled to your thoughts.  I don't think he's superman but he's damn good at what is required of him.


Wow, _33 knows more about college football than Mel Kiper and a dude that actually works for an NFL team.  Man, what a douchebag _33 is.

Fair enough.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: OK_Cat on August 25, 2011, 11:53:15 AM
FWIW, I think Wilson is a good player.  I just hate that a large segment of our fans love him because:


god forbid we might have a good player without dreads, tats and a connection to the inner-city.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 25, 2011, 11:53:44 AM

Now if you want to look at bad parts in a scheme look at last year's defense. Unathletic LBs and undersized, non-playmakers in a 4-2-5. A defense predicated by having athletes and playmakers, especially in your front 7. Granted, the parts we had were probably not going to help any defensive scheme, but IMHO it was even worse in that scheme. Point is, the popular goEMAW arguments against Wilson don't fit the same logic.

Again, JMHO.

You can't argue that last year's defense was successful in any way, but mostly the same personnel performed much better in the 4-2-5 under Koenning. I'm not so sure that the 4-2-5 scheme was really the problem. I think it had much more to do with Cosh not knowing how to execute that scheme.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: kso_FAN on August 25, 2011, 11:57:52 AM

Now if you want to look at bad parts in a scheme look at last year's defense. Unathletic LBs and undersized, non-playmakers in a 4-2-5. A defense predicated by having athletes and playmakers, especially in your front 7. Granted, the parts we had were probably not going to help any defensive scheme, but IMHO it was even worse in that scheme. Point is, the popular goEMAW arguments against Wilson don't fit the same logic.

Again, JMHO.

You can't argue that last year's defense was successful in any way, but mostly the same personnel performed much better in the 4-2-5 under Koenning. I'm not so sure that the 4-2-5 scheme was really the problem. I think it had much more to do with Cosh not knowing how to execute that scheme.

True, that's part of it. But I do think Koenning did have some better players to work with, especially up front.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Boom Roasted on August 25, 2011, 11:58:45 AM
Hopefully Mel is right
 :kstategrad:

I remember thinking he was good last year but nothing specific.
<=== will come up with new opinion 9/3/11
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: The Manhatter on August 25, 2011, 12:08:11 PM
i never said that i liked or disliked the guy.  just think that the "you think you know more than snyder?!?!??" crowd is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Nobody, at least in this thread, used that argument and I would hope no one on this site would. Granted, someone mentioned Kiper, and that was a bit silly. However, its just a silly to hate a player and think he sucks for the reasons Manhatter mentioned. And if you do think he sucks, at least give some relavent reasons that pertain to his position/role on the team and how that fits into the system we use.

For example, I get that _33 doesn't like him b/c Wilson's stats show he isn't a threat. However, in our system IMHO Wilson is used a lot to make other players a threat, either getting a key block in the running game or in pass protection. If Snyder used a system where we needed just one back or two athletic backs (which is what _33 advocated) then his case would be sound, especially if Snyder's offensive system showed a lack of results. However, the system, utilizing a traditional FB with some newer HB twists, has been the strength of this team in Snyder's 2nd tenure. It wouldn't be as strong if Snyder tried to fit the wrong parts (another athlete at RB with average or worse blocking skills) into the power running game, which is one of the key aspects of his offense.

Now if you want to look at bad parts in a scheme look at last year's defense. Unathletic LBs and undersized, non-playmakers in a 4-2-5. A defense predicated by having athletes and playmakers, especially in your front 7. Granted, the parts we had were probably not going to help any defensive scheme, but IMHO it was even worse in that scheme. Point is, the popular goEMAW arguments against Wilson don't fit the same logic.

Again, JMHO.

actually I used the "you know more than Snyder" line or at least insinuated it.  I only bring it out on special occasions where I deem it to be apropos.

I feel Kiper is very relevant from the standpt he doesn't get his projections from viewing film himself...he gets input from NFL management personnel.  He does form his own opinions from there which I don't care much for...but he has a good original basis from which to start.

Calling for the one back set or a two back set is ludicrous because Snyder has done it and will do it again if he has the personnel.  I don't think we were going to be that dangerous putting both Powell in the backfield with DT.  That may not be the case with Pease and Bryce...they provide a different element.  In '99 Snyder used plenty of one back sets (Murphy) and 4 wide outs (George Williams, Wesley, Morgan, and Lockett) that, at times, went to empty backfield as Murphy went in motion and we sent 5 receivers down the field.  But you don't do that every play unless your Texas Tech or something June Jones runs.  In that sense I'm quite confident Snyder knows more...he's been around a while and had a bit of success here and there (blatant sarcasm).
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: The Manhatter on August 25, 2011, 12:10:30 PM

Now if you want to look at bad parts in a scheme look at last year's defense. Unathletic LBs and undersized, non-playmakers in a 4-2-5. A defense predicated by having athletes and playmakers, especially in your front 7. Granted, the parts we had were probably not going to help any defensive scheme, but IMHO it was even worse in that scheme. Point is, the popular goEMAW arguments against Wilson don't fit the same logic.

Again, JMHO.

You can't argue that last year's defense was successful in any way, but mostly the same personnel performed much better in the 4-2-5 under Koenning. I'm not so sure that the 4-2-5 scheme was really the problem. I think it had much more to do with Cosh not knowing how to execute that scheme.

BS.  Drastic differences with guys like Fitzgerald, Calvin, and Josh Moore. 
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: DoDRepeat on August 25, 2011, 01:02:20 PM
I think BW gets a lot of attention because he's huge and white and from kansas. There's been the random highlights of his career when he "trucks" someone, but the truth is every time he's done that the guy still tackles him. In my book, when you're a fullback and you've got a head of steam going up against a corner, you sure as hell better land forward at the very least. Now, since he doesn't really get the ball (probably due to DT), we don't know how good he is or isn't in running the ball. Throwing out a stat that he had 1.1 ypc is garbage and whoever said it is full of crap.

His blocking imo is good, not great. I'm one who likes to watch the line/fullback dish out blocks, and he misses blocks on occasion. He also get's stood up often by decent-sized linebackers, probably due to his height and pad level, not so much strength.

Overall, he's a good fullback in college. However, unless Snyder starts giving him the ball the next couple of years he won't get drafted. But unless he has an injury or starts missing blocks more often, he'll get signed by an NFL team and get a chance in the preseason. He'll probably float around and maybe make a roster.

Back on topic: There's not that many H-Back's in the traditional sense anymore in college football. If all you mean by that is like a goal-line back or power back, then we haven't had once since Victor Mann if I'm correct? We've put in some big uglies but usually it's been the starting rb taking the carries. I think it'll likely stay that way unless our running backs end up sucking balls, which is unlikely with the Brangelo situation. I've heard good things about backup FB's behind Braden but I don't even know who they are, and someone has to block for him if he does take those carries. Tight-end? I don't know what his downfield route running skills are like, and I think there's enough talent at TE to get the job done, so probably no.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: pissclams on August 25, 2011, 01:08:22 PM
oh great.  maybe we should start a special board called Football Geniuses and made _33 and OK_Cat mods.  and fanning as a mod apprentice.  and PBX. 

The Darkest Horse Of Them All board will just have to get by with guys like The Manhatter, ksu_FAN, and Fatty. i hope we can survive against the HFBIQ of this rival board!
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: OK_Cat on August 25, 2011, 01:42:54 PM
oh great.  maybe we should start a special board called Football Geniuses and made _33 and OK_Cat mods.  and fanning as a mod apprentice.  and PBX. 

The Darkest Horse Of Them All board will just have to get by with guys like The Manhatter, ksu_FAN, and Fatty. i hope we can survive against the HFBIQ of this rival board!

guess what, fake clams?  we're taking scoops with us.  how you like them apples?
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: pissclams on August 25, 2011, 01:45:26 PM
he's all yours.  kid hasn't scooped crap since taking back the scoop reigns from PBX. 
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: OK_Cat on August 25, 2011, 01:47:57 PM
hot off the press:  fake clams loves white person brayden wilson, HATES black man, good person Arthur Brown

 :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: kso_FAN on August 25, 2011, 02:19:48 PM
hot off the press:  fake clams loves white person brayden wilson, HATES black man, good person Arthur Brown

 :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:

 :surprised:
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Ira Hayes on August 25, 2011, 03:33:13 PM
We have a QB that can run.  We have a RB that can run.  Do we need another RB in there that can run or are we better served with a FB that can block (regardless of hair style and skin color?)

We need fullback more than we need another runner.  That's the whole point of having a mobile QB.  And Braden is a good one.  Does he get more love because he's from a small town in western Kansas?  Yes.  Just like the Women's BB team got slobbered on when they had Wecker and whoever the hell else played with her.

Don't let that little detail get you down.  Don't hate white, small-town Kansas kids just cause they're white, small-town Kansas kids.  Some of them can play.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: pissclams on August 25, 2011, 03:34:39 PM
i love backs that can block really well.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: DQ12 on August 25, 2011, 03:45:18 PM
We have a QB that can run.  We have a RB that can run.  Do we need another RB in there that can run or are we better served with a FB that can block (regardless of hair style and skin color?)

We need fullback more than we need another runner.  That's the whole point of having a mobile QB.  And Braden is a good one.  Does he get more love because he's from a small town in western Kansas?  Yes.  Just like the Women's BB team got slobbered on when they had Wecker and whoever the hell else played with her.

Don't let that little detail get you down.  Don't hate white, small-town Kansas kids just cause they're white, small-town Kansas kids.  Some of them can play.
Very well put.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: OB_Won on August 25, 2011, 04:12:44 PM
FWIW, I think Wilson is a good player.  I just hate that a large segment of our fans love him because:


god forbid we might have a good player without dreads, tats and a connection to the inner-city.
I don't get this post at all.  Except for Jordy and Simoneau, who were all-americans and complete badasses, nearly EVERY "fan avorite" that played for Snyder or Martin has been black.  Bishop, Newman, Sproles, Lockett, Q, Beasley, Walker, Pullen, etc. etc. etc.  Where does this sentiment come from?  Show me a fan base that doesn't cheer for a local starter.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Ira Hayes on August 25, 2011, 04:35:31 PM
FWIW, I think Wilson is a good player.  I just hate that a large segment of our fans love him because:


god forbid we might have a good player without dreads, tats and a connection to the inner-city.
I don't get this post at all.  Except for Jordy and Simoneau, who were all-americans and complete badasses, nearly EVERY "fan avorite" that played for Snyder or Martin has been black.  Bishop, Newman, Sproles, Lockett, Q, Beasley, Walker, Pullen, etc. etc. etc.  Where does this sentiment come from?  Show me a fan base that doesn't cheer for a local starter.

It's not a black/white thing.  It's a local vs import thing.  Sproles and Newman were local kids and were adored.  But it's just a "fan favorite" thing. 

Fan preference:
1. Local kids who are good.
2. Kids who are good.u
3. Local kids who are not good.
4 Everybody else.

Coach preference (i.e. the kids who play):
1. Kids who are good.
2. Everybody else.

Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Paul Moscow on August 25, 2011, 04:48:45 PM
All Braden has to do is grow his hair out all wild then give himself a nickname during an interview with Kellis. Call himself The Undertaker "cause I bury people" or something like that and everyone will love him.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: The Whale on August 25, 2011, 06:21:57 PM
i never said that i liked or disliked the guy.  just think that the "you think you know more than snyder?!?!??" crowd is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Nobody, at least in this thread, used that argument and I would hope no one on this site would.


Why do people so passionately defend Braden Wilson every time I post about him? I think he sucks. Get over it.

we consider your opinion far more knowledgable and credible than Snyder or NFL scouting management's opinion thus we consider you a worthy adversary.  You're entitled to your thoughts.  I don't think he's superman but he's damn good at what is required of him.


Wow, _33 knows more about college football than Mel Kiper and a dude that actually works for an NFL team.  Man, what a douchebag _33 is.

Fair enough.

Good to know I'm not the only one that skips over jtksu posts
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: kim carnes on August 25, 2011, 06:57:01 PM
JFC, do any of you d-bags watch the games?  If you did, you would know that BW is an average fullback.  He routinely misses blocks, and usually gets dominated by talented linebackers.  eff guys.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Katpappy on August 25, 2011, 07:01:39 PM
oh great.  maybe we should start a special board called Football Geniuses and made _33 and OK_Cat mods.  and fanning as a mod apprentice.  and PBX. 

The Darkest Horse Of Them All board will just have to get by with guys like The Manhatter, ksu_FAN, and Fatty. i hope we can survive against the HFBIQ of this rival board!
:lol:
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Katpappy on August 25, 2011, 07:02:22 PM
oh great.  maybe we should start a special board called Football Geniuses and made _33 and OK_Cat mods.  and fanning as a mod apprentice.  and PBX. 

The Darkest Horse Of Them All board will just have to get by with guys like The Manhatter, ksu_FAN, and Fatty. i hope we can survive against the HFBIQ of this rival board!

guess what, fake clams?  we're taking scoops with us.  how you like them apples?
:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: catzacker on August 25, 2011, 07:10:18 PM
JFC, do any of you d-bags watch the games?  If you did, you would know that BW is an average fullback.  He routinely misses blocks, and usually gets dominated by talented linebackers.  eff guys.

kind of agree with this.  I think he's an avearge fullback; he got destroyed against ucla and nebraska. 
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: _33 on August 25, 2011, 07:53:26 PM
For example, I get that _33 doesn't like him b/c Wilson's stats show he isn't a threat.

this isn't why _33 doesn't like him fwiw

Nobody gets me.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: steve dave on August 25, 2011, 07:54:38 PM
For example, I get that _33 doesn't like him b/c Wilson's stats show he isn't a threat.

this isn't why _33 doesn't like him fwiw

Nobody gets me.

I do bro, I do
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: pissclams on August 25, 2011, 08:06:01 PM
JFC, do any of you d-bags watch the games?  If you did, you would know that BW is an average fullback.  He routinely misses blocks, and usually gets dominated by talented linebackers.  eff guys.

kind of agree with this.  I think he's an avearge fullback; he got destroyed against ucla and nebraska. 
who is a better fullback in the b12?

ya, that's what i thought.  hater.  /thread.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: jtksu on August 25, 2011, 09:06:37 PM
On one hand we have Mel Kiper saying Braden is very good and on the other, we have a dude named Kim saying he sucks.  Hmmm.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Stevesie60 on August 25, 2011, 09:07:03 PM
I like when _FAN destroys someone with logic and facts and stuff, and just to be sure he's not coming off as aggressive or talking down to people, adds the "JMHO".

lol. I was about to post this exact sentence.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: kim carnes on August 25, 2011, 09:18:37 PM
On one hand we have Mel Kiper saying Braden is very good and on the other, we have a dude named Kim saying he sucks.  Hmmm.

Yes, my name is Kim and I am saying he is average.  I am right, as is _33.  Me and _33 are right, get it?
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: steve dave on August 25, 2011, 09:20:13 PM
I'm not taking sides but I guarantee you Kim has seen more Braden Wilson live action football than Mel Kiper
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Ira Hayes on August 25, 2011, 09:32:55 PM
My name is Ira, and I'm saying that he is a better lead blocker and pass blocker than Pease, Brown, or Hubert.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: kim carnes on August 25, 2011, 09:41:24 PM
My name is Ira, and I'm saying that he is a better lead blocker and pass blocker than Pease, Brown, or Hubert.

What is your f*cking point dumbass?  When did anyone state that he wasn't?
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on August 25, 2011, 09:59:35 PM
On one hand we have Mel Kiper saying Braden is very good and on the other, we have a dude named Kim saying he sucks.  Hmmm.
Mel Kiper annoys me though with his annoyingly weird shaped head.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Pete on August 25, 2011, 09:59:43 PM
I REALLY got the pot stirred with this topic.  THAT'S what modding is all about boys, watch and learn...
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Ira Hayes on August 25, 2011, 10:31:00 PM
My name is Ira, and I'm saying that he is a better lead blocker and pass blocker than Pease, Brown, or Hubert.

What is your f*cking point dumbass?  When did anyone state that he wasn't?

Point is he needs to be on the field doing that.  

_33 said:
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He sucks and everyone thinks he is good. We'd be much better off putting Brown and Pease or any other combination of two runners in the backfield.

kim carnes said:
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Yes, my name is Kim and I am saying he is average.  I am right, as is _33.  Me and _33 are right, get it?

Are you backing off your point?

You are correct about one thing.  I am a dumbass for taking the time to read this whole thread.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: kim carnes on August 25, 2011, 11:02:13 PM
My name is Ira, and I'm saying that he is a better lead blocker and pass blocker than Pease, Brown, or Hubert.

What is your f*cking point dumbass?  When did anyone state that he wasn't?

Point is he needs to be on the field doing that.  

_33 said:
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He sucks and everyone thinks he is good. We'd be much better off putting Brown and Pease or any other combination of two runners in the backfield.

kim carnes said:
Quote
Yes, my name is Kim and I am saying he is average.  I am right, as is _33.  Me and _33 are right, get it?

Are you backing off your point?

You are correct about one thing.  I am a dumbass for taking the time to read this whole thread.

Listen here you drunk indian.  When I said _33 was correct, I was giving him credit for recognizing that BW is overrated.  Does that make sense to you?
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: hatingfrancisco on August 27, 2011, 10:18:30 PM
For the record, I agree with the two rough ridin' retards that say we should just run the Super Tecmo Bowl offense. 
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Katpappy on August 27, 2011, 10:28:42 PM
For the record, I agree with the two rough ridin' retards that say we should just run the Super Tecmo Bowl offense. 
Lets make it a foursome, I'm all for the three headed monster.  :fatty:
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: _33 on September 04, 2011, 10:00:11 AM
How awful was Braden "Williams" Wilson last night?   :lol:  Remember that option where he tried to catch it and run?  :lol:

What a joke.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: BleedingPurple7 on September 04, 2011, 10:04:22 AM
How awful was Braden "Williams" Wilson last night?   :lol:  Remember that option where he tried to catch it and run?  :lol:

What a joke.

I don't know if you heard Stan last night, but he said EKU's defense was fast. What do you expect a FB to do against a fast defense like that?
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Kat Kid on September 04, 2011, 10:18:17 AM
According to jt, last night was a fluke.  I guess I'll have to go with that.  #teambraden
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: jtksu on September 04, 2011, 03:21:11 PM
How many games have we lost to FCS teams in the last 20 yrs or so?  How many noncon games have we lost?  How many opening games?  How many more chromosomes do you have than the average person?
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Gooch on September 04, 2011, 06:10:34 PM
The "Great White GPC Hope" missed a lot of blocks last night too.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: fatty fat fat on September 06, 2011, 01:53:20 AM
How awful was Braden "Williams" Wilson last night?   :lol:  Remember that option where he tried to catch it and run?  :lol:

What a joke.

he wasn't very good.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: jtksu on September 06, 2011, 12:54:56 PM
Braden didn't have a good game but he was still more useful than Bryce.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: kitten_mittons on September 06, 2011, 01:21:13 PM
Braden didn't have a good game but he was still more useful than Bryce.
5.3 YPC vs. 1.5 YPC
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Trim on October 01, 2011, 05:06:44 PM
:emawkid:
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: OK_Cat on October 01, 2011, 05:08:16 PM
confirmed: he blows
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: ben_dover919 on October 01, 2011, 05:28:29 PM
he cost us this game with that penalty!!
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: _33 on October 01, 2011, 05:30:24 PM
he cost us this game with that penalty!!

I agree ben_dover919. Turning point in the game.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: OK_Cat on October 01, 2011, 05:32:10 PM
after reviewing this thread, it's apparent that manhatter, jtksu, and pissclams just got outed as stupid asshats after braden cost us the baylor game.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: jtksu on October 01, 2011, 05:36:22 PM
That play ends with very little yardage if he doesn't tackle that LB, so it's kind of a moot point.  Also,  dudes that block every snap are gonna commit some holding penalties.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 01, 2011, 06:44:10 PM
after reviewing this thread, it's apparent that manhatter, jtksu, and pissclams just got outed as stupid asshats after braden cost us the baylor game.

yeah, about that.....
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 12, 2011, 01:30:17 PM
Just interviewed on WyattVision. Has a surprising amount of "street" in his voice.

 :surprised:
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on November 12, 2011, 04:40:14 PM
Just interviewed on WyattVision. Has a surprising amount of "street" in his voice.

 :surprised:
Yea,  my senior year in High School he talked to our basketball team to motivate us. I noticed that certain amount of "street" in his voice.
Title: Re: Will Braden Wilson take snaps at TE or H back?
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 12, 2011, 04:47:08 PM
...interesting...i hear similar about zimmerman..