The Trump Presidency

[chum1]

They're not that complicated. Remember freedom fries?

[EMAWican]

Pubs want a connection and a feeling of closeness to government that's managing them on what or how to do something. The feeling would be similar to your immediate family telling you to do something (local), secondary family (state), acquaintances (feds), and some random dude on a street corner (international).

[star seed 7]

there's a large subset of 'pubs (now v large) that dislike any organization above the level of a nation (un, eu, imf, etc).  it's part of being a nationalist, not a globalist.

for that matter, many also tend to prefer local government to state, state to federal, etc.  god knows why.

It's so stupid. Generally the more "local" a government is the stupider and more insane the representatives are. Check out the average school board (about as local as you can get).

Trump is obviously an exception to this.

[8manpick]

there's a large subset of 'pubs (now v large) that dislike any organization above the level of a nation (un, eu, imf, etc).  it's part of being a nationalist, not a globalist.

for that matter, many also tend to prefer local government to state, state to federal, etc.  god knows why.

It's so stupid. Generally the more "local" a government is the stupider and more insane the representatives are. Check out the average school board (about as local as you can get).

Trump is obviously an exception to this.

But theoretically, the more local, the more representative of the people they are representing.  Which is a good thing, no matter how insane the locals are.

[I_have_purplewood]

there's a large subset of 'pubs (now v large) that dislike any organization above the level of a nation (un, eu, imf, etc).  it's part of being a nationalist, not a globalist.

for that matter, many also tend to prefer local government to state, state to federal, etc.  god knows why.

It's so stupid. Generally the more "local" a government is the stupider and more insane the representatives are. Check out the average school board (about as local as you can get).

Trump is obviously an exception to this.

  Are you guys freaking serious?  It's like you don't think local school's, police and fire services, zoning and economical development matter at all.  And to call out 'the average school board' to be full of stupid people floors me but then again you think local representative's are insane.. Great take Lib. 

[Phil Titola]

I can't tie together caring for local government (which I agree is very important and needs more attention) to hating the EU.

[star seed 7]

Local government positions attract the same people that want to head up their hoa, they should be given as little power as possible

[8manpick]

there's a large subset of 'pubs (now v large) that dislike any organization above the level of a nation (un, eu, imf, etc).  it's part of being a nationalist, not a globalist.

for that matter, many also tend to prefer local government to state, state to federal, etc.  god knows why.

It's so stupid. Generally the more "local" a government is the stupider and more insane the representatives are. Check out the average school board (about as local as you can get).

Trump is obviously an exception to this.

  Are you guys freaking serious?  It's like you don't think local school's, police and fire services, zoning and economical development matter at all.  And to call out 'the average school board' to be full of stupid people floors me but then again you think local representative's are insane.. Great take Lib. 

If your apostrophe use is any indication, the local school board failed you as a child.

[I_have_purplewood]

I can't tie together caring for local government (which I agree is very important and needs more attention) to hating the EU.

I totally agree and think the EU plays an important role.

[chum1]

Not only are they not that complicated, but they don't really care about being consistent either. So, there's no real point in trying to understand.

[I_have_purplewood]

there's a large subset of 'pubs (now v large) that dislike any organization above the level of a nation (un, eu, imf, etc).  it's part of being a nationalist, not a globalist.

for that matter, many also tend to prefer local government to state, state to federal, etc.  god knows why.

It's so stupid. Generally the more "local" a government is the stupider and more insane the representatives are. Check out the average school board (about as local as you can get).

Trump is obviously an exception to this.

  Are you guys freaking serious?  It's like you don't think local school's, police and fire services, zoning and economical development matter at all.  And to call out 'the average school board' to be full of stupid people floors me but then again you think local representative's are insane.. Great take Lib. 

If your apostrophe use is any indication, the local school board failed you as a child.

touche.

[sys]

But theoretically, the more local, the more representative of the people they are representing.  Which is a good thing, no matter how insane the locals are.

empirically, the more local, the less competent.  which is a bad thing, no matter what the theory.

[chum1]

Can I get a non-gE answer...why do republicans hate the EU (or maybe it's just trump, dunno)?

The best distillation of the Trump Doctrine I heard, though, came from a senior White House official with direct access to the president and his thinking.
...
“The Trump Doctrine is ‘We’re America, Bitch.’ That’s the Trump Doctrine.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/a-senior-white-house-official-defines-the-trump-doctrine-were-america-bitch/562511/

That's it. There is nothing more than that.

[mocat]

that doesn't explain why they hate the EU more than the individual countries in the EU

[Rage Against the McKee]

https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1012133896505446400

[mocat]

oh, so they're just afraid of the EU

[sonofdaxjones]

Who in the hell would be afraid of the EU, it's a mess.

[chum1]

that doesn't explain why they hate the EU more than the individual countries in the EU

More people to puff their chests at.

[mocat]

Who in the hell would be afraid of the EU, it's a mess.

why do pubs hate the EU dax? just trying to figure it out

[Spracne]

Uh, the EU was set up to take advantage of the U.S.? That's patently false. It was set up primarily to entangle the economies of France and Germany so that there would (hopefully) never be a major war again on the continent...

[Rage Against the McKee]

Oh, you mean Donald Trump said something that wasn't true? That can't be.

[DaBigTrain]

Oh, you mean Donald Trump said something that wasn't true? That can't be.

Well, truth is in the eyes of the beholder.

[sys]

the united states did benefit from the implosion of european empires precipitated by the franco-german conflicts from 1870-1945, so history may have to give this one to trump.

[Phil Titola]

Uh, the EU was set up to take advantage of the U.S.? That's patently false. It was set up primarily to entangle the economies of France and Germany so that there would (hopefully) never be a major war again on the continent...

I think we are all past having to say "thats false" in regards to Trump quotes....be more useful to say "yeah that's actually true" when/if that ever happens.

[sonofdaxjones]

Who in the hell would be afraid of the EU, it's a mess.

why do pubs hate the EU dax? just trying to figure it out

   Loss of national sovereignty? 

But again, the EU is a mess, but LibBots seem to love it.   Bailouts, debt restructuring, fringe member austerity, immigration problems, misguided green energy initiatives etc. etc. etc.